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- Hey guys, Spade and Carvey here. Coming up next, Drew Barrymore. - Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time, and truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. - Yeah, I mean, you can have your, look, you go get your own place, you get your own pool, you get your own living room. You're not gonna walk in an elevator, you're not gonna see people when you're walking around in your undergarments.
Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,
Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it.
You guys, it's Spade and Carvey here at the old Fly on the Wall Dungeon doing an intro for Drew Barrymore, who we love. It gets impressive in here, but once in a while. Garbagey basement. They let us out. But, oh, Z Gallery. Thanks. You like the furnishings? So I was going to tell you, we have Drew coming up right now. And here's a story that I didn't tell you before. Are we on camera right now? Yeah. And I don't think. We always are. Oh, let me just get. Let me go.
It's the Truman Show. Hey, how you doing? What's up, camera? So when we, when I, when you, no, I'm scared to ask her, but that movie Lost and Found I did. Oh, a couple people see it? Oh, a couple people remember? Okay. So Lost and Found was this movie. It was all right. But I did it and we were looking for the lead. And so the guys that did the money said,
If you know Drew Barrymore, she'd be perfect. I said, oh, she'd be great. But it was sort of in this time in her career when she might've done it. She might've done it. And everyone loves Drew Barrymore. So I said, oh, we'd be so perfect. It'd be great. So they said, if you can get it to her, we can pay her price. And she had a quote. I won't tell you what it was, but it wasn't great. It was good. There's more than I got. But I said, oh, if we can get her. So I got to her agent. She said, okay, let's have dinner. She read it. And then about-
A week later, she said she'd do it. Anyway, we blew it. We couldn't get her the money. The guy couldn't get her the money. So it was a big scam and I felt bad. And then, and also, and then I think she went and did Wedding Singer, which was obviously a way better movie, but whatever. Anyway, but I think, Dana, that during this, there was a time when we were talking, I think we kissed.
Is this crazy? And I might be lying, but that's fine. I don't want to ask her because what if it's not true? But in my head, I think we did. And it was no big deal. It was just like funny or stupid, but no big romance. But I think we kissed. And I have to check my diary, but she has to check hers. Really? You should check yours too, just in case. Wow.
Wow. Isn't that crazy? So I just turned to our friend Rob Schneider. Wow. And Rowan Wilson. Wow. That's interesting. You wouldn't, you're not sure you kissed her. I don't know. I think that's maybe a little bit of a diss. Wouldn't it be like memorable? No, because when she had that movie, Never Been Kissed, I go, oh, I don't think so. Oh. But I was like, but I don't know if I'm going to ask her. Well, we did go out once. We had dinner once.
You and Drew? Yeah. Are you going to skunk my story? And I said, how much have you been dating lately? And she goes, this is my 52nd date. Reference to the movie. She goes, some gross guy tried to kiss me once. I forgot his name. I think you're friends with him. No, I feel paternal toward her. She's been a part of America forever.
Since E.T., she's about as cute as a kid could ever be, and she was so great in that movie. And now she's still here. I think the thing I take away from Drew is just the positivity is real, and it's how you get things done in the world is by just never letting the flag touch the ground. She's just a force of nature. Yeah, she can do it all. She's a producer. She's a writer. She's a –
Obviously she really helps women in the industry. She does it all and got a great talk show right now.
So let's hear from her. Let's hear from her. I remember when I met her, she said, you remind me of a kind of a grosser version of E.T. And I go, oh, I didn't even see the movie, so I don't know what that meant. But I go, oh, he's a star. I know. Well, after our 52nd date, you know, I just tried to be pithy. Are you trying to do 50 first dates? What? What's 50 first dates? Is that a movie she was in? I don't know. After our 52nd date...
I just, as a joke, I got up and I – because this is before cell phones. I go, I have to – Dana, call home. Sorry. I was trying to do E.T., but Johnny Carson came out. I know. Oh! God, let's just go to the show. E.T., phone home. Pass phone home. No, Johnny would say, sorry, Drew. It's our 52nd date. And I've got to call home. I – you know, whatever. David, I'm glad you're –
My IQ has lowered since the podcast started. I'm really confused. We just did a test and everyone has heard the podcast is stupid. And I can't think. Stupider. But everyone loves Drew. I'll put it that way. All right, here's Drew. This year, Dell Technologies' back-to-school event is delivering impressive tech with an inspiring purpose.
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But then when he did Daniel Day-Lewis, it just went incredibly deep. So his range is like really kind of interesting because his talking voice is very sort of soft, you know, up here. And we had a great time. And then he's like, but I totally... I like that I try to do Daniel Day-Lewis and you guys both do it. And I forgot. I used to do it like crazy. His was so great. I feel like we, you know, at some point we'll just tell... I was going to say, yeah, that...
If they said you were the best ever, I wouldn't slug them in the face. But there's 50 people that could be mentioned. You know, it's just people love to have lists. Yeah. I don't want Maya Rudolph to go, what's going on? But he's definitely up there. Well, he just, it's kind of like Will Forte. They,
that middle knots that early to 2010 or 12 whatever knots had a lot I know had a lot of had a lot of talent that's why I listed all of them and I forgot my Rudolph there's a lot of talent where's that lady oh my
Oh my god, you guys, I've been here the whole time screaming. It was on fucking mute. I didn't want to interrupt you. I was like, oh, I guess they're going and riffing on this shit here. You thought we were ignoring you the whole time. You were a fly on the wall. I was. I was listening in. You were talking about Maya Rudolph and the knots or the aughts or whatever we're calling them. And I literally was like...
I guess when they're ready, they'll invite me in. But these are like the high class problems of our current world. You're on mute. I can't see your screen is off. This is the new verbiage for us. But I actually have been sitting here waiting to jump into the double dutch. Literally, I'm so excited that you guys would have me on your show. Are you crazy?
I love both of you so much. I'm in. I'm double dutching with you right now. And I'm loving. My wife said, oh, Drew's so sweet. She's so fun. I have so much energy. And I go, you think? I don't know. I'll tell you what happens. But already you hear exactly what she promised. Well, she's so kind. She's definitely right about the energy part. I'm a lot. I'm like a lab Labrador in heat. I like the heat.
Yeah. I've heard people say that. Yeah. I am. I, but like, yeah. Well, that was my, go ahead. No, go ahead. I like to interrupt. Then I, when I'm happy, when I'm intense, I think I'm a whole other metaphor, but when I'm happy, I'm like Labrador and heat panting, probably trying to grab your leg, you know? Interesting. Yeah.
Well, I read some things about you last night, and it was truly impressive and exhausting how much you packed in. I mean, my God. Labrador and heat, I'm going, and how young you are from where I'm perched. It's like, damn, where does that come from? Where's the motor to do all this and then become a producer and now this? And I don't know. I can't even. Ah.
Maybe a hard question to ask. More of an Oprah question or Larry King. I love it. I'm like, I did not expect the how do you do it question that's traditionally a woman to woman. Oh, well, yes. And a mom, working mom. Yeah. Yeah. I like that you guys are asking it because... Yeah, we're real thinkers, Drew. Well, we love women, basically. I...
And I love funny men. So this is a match made in heaven. A win-win. I do it by burning the candle at both ends. I actually am here editing our next issue of a magazine that we're making. Of course. And I...
I think about it's weird. A lot of people will ask that question. And I think I've been so passive about my answer because my humility wants to go. No, no, no. I don't do that much. Let me turn it back to you. Yes. And lately I've been for this magazine and trying to think of some content for it. I've been looking at the how and
and the we not the how and the i but i think that it's really messy and i was brought up sort of we all lived in that world where we would see those articles where people were like 8 a.m i drink my coffee and i do this okay mark walberg 2 a.m 10 30 i do this you know and i i never lived that life and it seemed so type a and unattainable
And I was more the, you never know where the day is going to take you whimsical, or I will burn myself to a crisp and then I'll find that pocket of rest and wellness somewhere else. So I don't, I don't know how anyone does it. And if they do it in an organized fashion, they have my deepest respect. And if they feel like it all feels like,
putting out fires and kind of burning yourself out. And it's all like a higgledy piggledy mess and it's super comedic and there are chickens running through the frame and like rando funny shit is going on. That feels so true to our,
are to my experience and I would never preach to anyone that I have it together or that I'm a blueprint. I am just a work in progress. And so far I'm shocked in some ways
That like I am A relatively healthy person Because I feel like I don't live A very healthy lifestyle Geez And that's been Drew Barrymore today We appreciate No listen That's amazing Go ahead I have a question No one argues that she's busy Her IMDB looks like A CVS receipt Ha ha ha
And if you could see her zoom, it looks like house and garden. Me and Dana look like we're in a bunker in Kabul. Yeah, we're- Her place looks gorgeous. She looks fresh as a daisy. Yeah, fresh as a daisy, gorgeous and-
- Oh boy. - Only 'cause I have hair and makeup because I'm at the show. And by the way, on my headstone, will for sure say Death by Inspo because I'll have inspired myself into the grave. Like I can't even look at a woman's shoe without going, "Do you mind if I take a quick picture of that?" Because that color tone would just be so great for the packaging on the next thing I'm making. - Yeah. - Like it's, I cannot, I can't stop.
And sometimes I feel like I wish I could just like have like quick temporary, you know, I think that's probably why I drank so much back. You know, most of what do you mean? You had a problem to shut it down. I was like, just shut up. Dude, it's seven. You were like, I can't take it anymore. Dude, you know what? Yeah.
Yeah. At seven, I was paying the rent and that's a lot of stress. That, yeah, fairly uncommon thing for a human being in America to be paying the rent at seven. True. I can relate. Dana, I didn't tell you this. I was a child star too. I, when I was, my dad was in advertising. He was like a madman type of guy. My favorite. And when I was five, I was pretty cute. I had a good run from five to eight.
So when I was five, Really? I never heard this. My dad goes, why don't you be in this like Taco Bell commercial that we're filming because they were part of it. And he goes, they need some kids. We'll throw you in.
We'll give you 10 bucks. And I was like, holy shit. So they put 10 $1 bills out for me on my desk. I probably got a thousand, but they kept it, you know, and they go, here's your 10. And then I, and then they took nine of it. And I go, so you already took a cut. I'm sure before behind, before I saw it, then I get 10 and then you go, we'll hold it. And I go, wait, what's going on? And then I had a dollar left and they go, go nuts.
You guys, I was like, I hear that. I was still, I didn't put down my waiter's apron until 23 and a half. You guys start right out of kindergarten. What a head start. Can I ask you a question, Drew? Because you kind of talked about, like Reese Witherspoon. Okay, she's another...
like how does she do all that? And I heard her kind of own it, like in the way men can sort of own it. Like, okay, get out of my way, I can do anything basically. Is it difficult for you to have that gear because people would say, I'm nice. They'd say, you're nice. But where do you have that part of you that has a ego, like can kind of give yourself a pat on the back? I don't. So that's why you just keep going.
Yeah. And I hate those. And I know Reese. So I, you know, she's just incredible that she is a good, like hot question mark of how the hell does she do it? I, I,
I feel like I had so much opportunity because of starting as a kid that the gender effect never had me. It never had my attention. It was squandered early because I started working as a baby and kept working. So I never had the...
Anything other than I could do all these things and they're my opportunities to screw up or make something of. And there were men and women giving me those opportunities.
I just wrote the forward to the new ET book because it's the 40th anniversary. And I was talking about Kathleen Kennedy and Melissa Matheson. You know, I saw women at work. So I just really didn't have that.
I need to be aggressive or act like a man to get anything done. I always felt permission to check in with my idols, the Go-Go's and Pippi Longstocking, who were all girl all the time, but they did everything that boys did. And it became my ethos on making Charlie's Angels was why do women have to pretend to be men in order to look strong and capable?
Because the truth is, in my world, if I was kicking butt with my girlfriends, we would totally be talking about last night's date while taking the bad guy down. And bad guy could be, again, bad guy or bad girl. I've never been affected. Luckily, I've not had the unfortunate experience.
ingenue treatment of being held back. Or as I started a production company at 19, and we was really in the era of the power suit woman, I was like intimidated by that and just felt like, screw it. I'm going to be a girl with my corduroys and my transport backpacks.
and the work is going to speak for me. And no man has ever kept me down. They've only helped give me opportunities as women have. And I'm just, I'm a girl. And I think the one thing that's always stuck out for me about men first and foremost was that like a lot of my comedy influence when I was young came from men.
There weren't a ton of female comedians. There's so many more now. I feel like the playing field is so much more equal. So I identified men a lot with funny comedians.
And that was a good thing. I didn't think of men as my bosses or anyone who was going to hold me back or I had to be like them. I've had fortunate liberation my entire life like that. And I hate boss bitch. I hate it. Boss lady. It sounds like you're hanging a pair of balls on you with a bitterness and I
I don't like that because I don't have one better bone in my body. However, if people have to put
you know, metaphorical balls on or a cape or do any mechanism to empower themselves that I stand back and do not judge because everybody has their process of how they get to bravery. She has the best answers. I know. Oh my God. They're unreal. Oh, David Spade. I love you so much. I mean, my God, we have to talk about SNL. So by the way, back to E.T.,
To have two women that high up in the chain must have been nice back then. And they must have had an even keel about them because you look up to them and you don't see them. I mean, there is equal up there with everybody that are running a huge, huge movie. That's good. That's a good influence early on. And Steven Spielberg was flanked by these two women. Frank Marshall was there, but Kathleen Kennedy and Melissa Matheson. And, and,
So Melissa wrote it just for our viewers. Melissa wrote it. She was married to Harrison Ford at the time. They were very close. They had the script for years. They were making the Indiana Jones movies. They were all a tight knit group.
And she had this script. It was called A Boy's Life. And yeah. That's what E.T. was called? Yeah, it wasn't called E.T. until after the film was made, I guess. Maybe in marketing, I'd have to ask Stephen. It was called Little Gross Monster for a little bit, I heard.
Cute little alien. Okay, good. So Dana, ask her a question about SNL. What are you doing? I know. I'm so... I'm a little starstruck. I'm so excited. I'm starstruck too. It's fun. I'm fascinated by your life. I think it's so cool. I'm starstruck by you guys. I mean, literally, you're about to bring up SNL and...
I don't know where your question is going to go, but boy, did that show change my life in so many ways. But in no way did I participate the way that you guys have. You know, Rosetta Stone, the most trusted language learning program. Oh, yeah. If you want to learn a new language, which no time like the present, it's always fun to learn when you get older.
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for people who don't know it, you've hosted six times, which is a record. I'm tied. I'm tied right now. Tied with Candice Bergen? Nope, she's five. I think I'm tied with Scar Jo, who
who I'm pretty sure is going to beat me because she's great. Oh yeah. She's married to Colin. So she's got a fast track. We're going to book her for three a year. Oh yeah. And she makes, you know, big movies that are gonna, you know, I, I, I'm sure she's going to beat me and I love her so much. And we just did the show together. And if anyone's going to beat it, but here's a record I do hold that I, I,
I think I will be, it will be bittersweet when it happens. I am still the youngest. Yes. In 1982 at seven years old. Yes. That one's going to hurt. That's going to be a tough one. That's really no danger. I don't know. Unless I wonder how has it not been taken? How the hell is that not happened? Well, cause it's child abuse. Yeah.
Hey, kid, you're going to... I can't even handle it. I was crying when I hosted and I'd done 200 shows. Yeah, well... You go back there and you're like, wait, what do I do? And the band's playing. It's terrifying. I'm 47 and I can't even... But was the monkey a surprise?
Yes. Yes. The total surprise. It was a non sequitur for David. Yeah. Go ahead. Explain that. Cause Tim Kaczynski, um, who I'd have just an adorable crush on. I just thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Um, they didn't want me to have to deal with an opening monologue. Um, and they sort of addressed that in the monologue and they say, instead we're going to do a Q and a with Tim, um,
and drew, weird to say your name. And so he asked me questions on little index cards. And I- Adorable. And then at the end, he says, we have a surprise for you. And they bring out this monkey. Chimpanzee, yeah. I don't know what the point of it was other than to be the- Well, your reaction-
cutest thing and the most delightful surprise for anyone, let alone a seven-year-old girl. I remember so many different emotions. Steven Spielberg came and he's very much probably the only father figure I've really had in my life. And he was very parental and
And on the show night, he brought Robin Williams, which scared me to death because I was so obsessed with Robin Williams. And that felt very intimidating to me. And
Who's blabbing? Yeah. Somebody's auditioning back there. All right. Sorry. You don't want to get spayed mad. They're all. Exactly. So. Robin Williams. So Robin Williams. And it was such a weird mixed bag because the there I was in the opening scene, which I didn't realize until way later how hard it is to get in the scene before the credits.
Like I spent my young adulthood fighting to get in that opening scene. The cold open. The cold open. And I was in it and they all circle around me and I'm sad about something and they are rallying me up. And then they said, you know, would you like a glass of milk? And I remember my line was milk. I'm a Barrymore fan.
I want to drink and make it a double. And, um, seven years, seven. Boy, little did I know how true that would end up. You were like, all kidding aside, make it a double. Was there, was there a family history of that at all? Or. Oh my God. I mean, literally my grandfather died of consumption. Um, I think, uh,
Ethel and Lionel were a bit more put together, but yeah, total hedonists and, um, and artists, um, and a long line of alcoholism and, uh, and yeah. So it's highly genetic, obviously it is highly genetic, but I'm going to be the one who breaks that in our chain. Yeah. I haven't, I haven't had a drink in almost three years and, um,
It's a really good feeling. Well, what's your happy place? How do you calm down then? Do you meditate? Do you take a bath? Do you run around the block?
How do you calm that thinking brain without alcohol? Yeah, and I'm not sober. I don't work a program. It's just I realized my relationship with alcohol was the most toxic one in my life. And when I'd been trying to master since I was nine years old and did start drinking. And that, yeah, I had to find a way to
I had to find a different way to live and I can sort of trace every negative thing back in my life. And there's probably alcohol dancing in there somewhere. And it's like the best breakup I've ever had in my life. And it's so confident and quiet. And I have a bar in my house. I serve people drinks. I have no hangups about it. I'm just like, so psyched at this choice to finally cut this like cancer out of my life.
it's something, excuse me. Well, you feel better too. I mean, there's a lot of positives. If you can get through it, it's a lot of positive upside. And so how did you manage all these movies and this massive career while imbibing? Was it sort of binge drinking or would you, how did you manage? People look the other way.
I think, you know, when you do burn the candle at both ends and you are prolific, that's part of the fooling yourself. Like, but I'm doing all this work, so I'm functioning. And that was definitely my justification. But I was more of like when I partied, I was the crazy one. Like I can think of another SNL alum, Chris Catan, whose nickname and I for each other is rooftops because we would get wasted and jump off my roof into the pool.
And I had a lot of fun with it. And it wasn't all bad. And then I think when kids came into my life, I realized that this was...
no longer sustainable and I made a hard choice and it's the best one I've ever made when it was just me and my life. I guess I didn't matter to myself enough to find the balance. My kids mattered more to me than I did. And I found the balance and it didn't come easy and it wasn't pretty.
And we all wish we had done things sooner, but I'm here and I'm so happy to be here. And that in itself, I think has replaced a ton of meditation and jogging and new agey stuff and self-help and self-care just being a
person who isn't corroded with guilt and dysfunction and blame. Like I had a bad girl narrative growing up. So every time I did something wrong, I went straight back to, well, you're a bad girl. So what the fuck else do you think it's you? You're the bad girl.
And if it's kind of your thing, like she's the drinker and the fun party girl, then you're like, it's already sort of factored in. So no one's going to get mad. That's kind of what they want. A hundred percent. I'm the good time girl. And I did have a good time. I wasn't willing to give it up for a long time. I was balancing it in a way where I was working my ass off. I work hard. I played hard. And that was,
was okay for 30 years. And then I think growing up isn't overrated. I'm totally into it. I feel so lucky to have arrived at a more peaceful, saner place. I'm 47 and I don't know if it
i just only know my own journey i started so much younger than other people in in many ways but i think a lot of my wisdom came later um and that's okay i don't even ask people what their age is because i don't give a i don't think it's gonna tell me everything about you you're gonna tell me if i have to ask people what their ages i'll literally say what's your number because it's not indicative of your journey there are people who have
clawed their way through life at such a young age and been dealt such strange cards. And there are people who just can't seem to mature no matter how hard everyone around them is trying. David won't. Did you say David? No, that was a joke. Look at him in his mansion.
He's very successful. Listen, when I was nine years old, my mom would say, you're not drinking until you're nine, like Drew Barrymore. And I go, right. We had a tough rule.
No, I've got my shit together, Drew. No, I don't. Do you? Drew? No. No, no. We're comedians. Luckily, this is about you. We're damaged little clowns. Yeah, we're little clowns. It was an interesting lesson growing up, being such a lover of male comedians. You know, so many wake-up calls on who used the sort of torture as an excuse to
you know, behave a certain way or be kind of an intense person or, you know, and those who didn't, you know, and I would definitely gravitate towards the ones who didn't, but I, it, I, and my mom, by the way, when I was a kid, not only did I get to do SNL at seven years old, but my mom worked as a waitress in the comedy store. So,
So I now have a character that I do for the digital on our show named Mitzi Banana Moore. And it's all dedicated to Mitzi Shore, really. And she's the inspiration for it. And I get to ask questions that I can't get away with on daytime television. And I got a wig and a look and a whole thing. And I,
That's great. Sounds so funny coming out of you. Do you have a lot of Mitzi stories? Because we have stories about Mitzi, you know? Pauly, sure, was my babysitter. Oh, wow. Yes. Sorry. Was everything okay? I think so. Him and Donna...
Him and Donovan Leach used to like, look after me sometimes. Like our parents didn't, I mean, my mom is an extreme case and, you know, but like a lot of people were in that time. Like we did not parent back then the way we do now. And it's,
crazy the scrutiny and the helicopter parenting and the guilt and the books and the rights and the wrongs and the do's and the don'ts yeah my mom just left me with polly and donovan uh while she and mitzi were off at work it was fun i i loved it and my mom
gave me such a rich history on who each and every comedian was and what their body of work was and what Steve Martin meant and what Robin Williams meant and who these people that came and did a set that night or here's the person up and coming.
It's very in my DNA. And so for me getting on this podcast with you guys, like I'm the one freaking out. I don't know what so much of my life would be without the things that you both have put into the world.
and comedy is a very healing thing. I call it medicine always. And I've been trained like a little seal to appreciate and understand the power of when someone makes you laugh, they take away your pain and stress. They give you a respite.
from your trauma and your damage and your worries and the things you got to do and the things that have affected you, you are liberated and free in that moment because you, your chemistry changes. You can't laugh and worry at the same time. I mean, by the way, the more you're worried, I hope the more you are laughing because it's the only way you're going to survive it. Yeah.
Well, this leads me to a question because you're given a background on what comedy meant to you and learning this in real time with you. What does it mean to have hosted SNL for you? Because then you go into America's comedy palace, basically, and you host it six times. And what does that mean to you? And how thrilling was it for you to then be part of it after the age of seven? And then you're an adult, mature, fine.
funny person on that show. What is it? What is it? I don't know. You have six minutes to answer that question. I, I really feel like, um, that show is an institution and it's a, um,
breathing tree. It's a giving tree that new leaves come out of its branches. And these leaves are these people, these artists. Such good answers so far. Yeah. And I was so poetically, you speak like a poet. It's unreal. Have you written a book of poems? You have, haven't you? I think I do write poetry. I love poetry. I read it.
I read a lot of poetry growing up. And we get to bask in the shade and the light of that tree. It's like, it's, it formed me so much as a human being. And I'm happy to say whether it's successful or not, I don't know. I'm not objective about myself. I never want to be. But yeah,
when i was lucky enough to get the show that i'm doing now which is a talk show it has my name on it actually asked for it to be named something else they said that's not how this works i said fine um uh
We'll go with the household name. You have a great name. Yeah, it's a cool name. One syllable and then three syllables. It goes Drew Barrymore. It's just a cool name. Thank you, Dana Carvey. Dana Carvey. That ends in a smile. I think... I never thought of that. It's true. I...
I leaned in so hard to my SNL training for this show. And a couple examples are that when we launched the pandemic in 2020, it was a very scary time to find a voice. I felt like it was in order to be quiet and be a good listener and be a student and learn. And so that was really intimidating. But I
Tried to tap into bravery to be funny and have a show that really celebrated comedians and go hard on comedy. It was go hard. I love it. It was scary. And I think it confused a lot of people.
And especially in that moment, like what the hell is this pandemic? Here she comes again. Yep. And the Drew's news segment of the show from which I fought for since the pilot, I kept trying to explain it to everybody. And I,
Obviously, there is this section of a magazine called The Week that's called It Wasn't All Bad. And it's just these tiny baby-sized paragraphs that are so funny and uplifting and weird. And then Weekend Update. And then I just kept saying, Weekend Update to me is...
is a drug. I'm on that feeder. I watch it every week. I don't miss it. I love
finding out information in a funny way. We could call it satire, you could call it pop culture, you could call it comedy. But like that news desk, I had a picture of Walter Cronkite, the weekend update desk and like the week magazine. And I think everyone was really scared because they were like, well, that's very written.
And I was like, no, I know. I'm not going to write it. We're going to report stories that...
give people hope because there is good news out there and there are life affirming things and there are weird happenings and interesting findings. And we're going to be an aggregator for that. And then we can do commentary on it. I think Chelsea lately, honestly, it was a really interesting, you know, she, she did a format where they really commented more on like gossip and pop culture, but it was so much funnier.
And no one had done that. And she had a panel of comedians and it was delicious. And nobody had done that. And you know, Drew, during the pandemic, it's even harder because it's an uphill battle. Everything in the news is bad. It was so pessimistic and so rough that you're fighting through that clutter. And if anyone would just turn to the channel and see you, they're like, give me a breather here for a second. Yeah.
I didn't know if I would ever be one, but I knew that I wanted and I thought I want to be a bright spot and not a blind spot. I want you to come here and not think that I don't understand what's happening all around us. But there is beautiful things. There are wonderful people. There is that good. And if we have to be reminded in life affirming ways that this battle is worth it,
great, then that's what I want to do. And how do I take us out while not seeming like I've lost the plot or I'm not in and aware and civic duty minded of everything that is really happening in reality. And it was the weirdest seesaw ever to balance. But I would say that Saturday night live has been my biggest influence. Um,
in my life. And now that I got to do a show that's not a movie or not a script or not a rom-com that probably involves a lot of people from the SNL alum, you know, you can see that love and that honoring and that adhesive sort of attitude
I have for male comedians. Cause I've spent so much time, you know, Sandler and Fallon and you did movies with both those guys. Like crazy. And I, I have to say, I got to be in Wayne's world is beer again. Can we hear a little bit of beer again? Kerrigan from Wayne's world too. I really,
really feel like that was the i like i'm i'm i was worried sweet like anyone was going to be mad at me like i made a a real joke out of the accent because i didn't really study enough for it and i didn't matter i sort of went for the broad comedy and i was like yeah people with
People's got to stop being offended. But it was, I'm vegan cooking. All I do is Greta Thunberg. I don't know what country she's from. How dare you? How dare you? That's it. It's just three words.
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What is it like to be able to have that? Like Jimmy Fallon came on the show the other day and he's married to my partner. They fell in love on Fever Pitch. So he's like, we're family. But we did one episode together here on this show where we were like, let's try impressions. And like, I suck at impressions. Like, what's it like to have that kind of access and the snap of a finger to
and be able to do any voice. Like I have to study and like take it so seriously that I almost lose the freedom and the whimsy. I got to learn it so well that then I can play because I've got it so fucking down that now I feel liberated and free because I held on to it so tightly. What's it like to just be like, here, play fingertips access.
Hmm. Well, I don't know exactly what you're saying, but I think I've got a bloody idea about something you're trying to get to. Michael Caine, everyone. Michael Caine, if I have to say it. I didn't know I'd... I'm helping. Listen, you're tremendous. Everyone says, excuse me, many people. Drew Barrymore, your show's terrific. It's terrific. Many people, excuse me, many people are saying, gas is going. I have a new rhythm for him. I'll do it for Drew.
When he's on the podium to his audience, he goes, gas prices are going up. $6, $7, $10. How high can you go? That's the final rhythm. How high can you go? It's all inflection.
Yeah. Yeah. And I just have fun with it. I'm in awe of like, there's certain people do certain impressions and I just love it. And I'm on all of it. And Jimmy Fallon, his, his Neil Young, you know, it's like insane. Oh, Neil Young is so good. He has so much talent. Uh,
You know, I've talked to people. They're like, he's with Justin Timberlake and they're doing, they're choreographing something and they go, Jimmy, just one time he's got it. And then he can sing and he dances and he does all these voices. And he's such a great, great talk show host. Cause he's so, such a great audience. We're all so influenced by that Renaissance variety human and,
that can pull out of the ether or have a premeditated approach to it or access to both.
Well, what's one that you learned? You talked about learning one and really owning it. Yeah. Do you have a good one? Load it up. Do you do Chloe Feynman? Sorry. Jesus. That's my favorite thing. We've done, we've done dozens of these. That's my favorite moment. Thank you, Drew. Thank you. I'm sorry. Now you're definitely the coolest. Oh, good. Oh, good. Um,
I, um, all right. That one's getting to my house now. It's just getting to me. Oof. Let's see. What have I eaten today? Um, chili dog. I can tell you. No, just only, only quinoa, like a quinoa porridge. It's pretty boring. Um, I, oh shit. What was the question? For the end.
We have a lot of Sandler questions at the end. We got a little... We got a Sandler question. We like to clown on him. I mean, God, do I just... I love him so much. Who doesn't? You got some monster movies with him. Adam's made a lot of great movies, but I think 51 Dates is like one of his very, very best because I...
It was such a complete film and it was emotional at the end. You know, I don't, didn't you find that to be an extra special one you did with them? 50, 51 dates. You've done three first dates, 51st dates or 51. It was originally another title change. It was called 51st kisses. And I think they thought that was too girly. Yeah. Yeah.
Dates. Like dates is more gender neutral. Now, this actually became a really big study for me about men and women. This is where I really did take on gender. So Nan, my partner, had found that script. And it was a drama that took place in Seattle. And funny enough, she wanted Reese Witherspoon to do it. She was like, you're busy. I'm going to...
I believe in Reese Witherspoon. She was a total fan. We've all been fans of hers forever. I've known Reese since I was 14 years old. Wow. And so she had me read it at a table reading and I was like, oh my God, this is the best script ever. And we wanted to...
get attached to it as producers at flower films. And it disappeared overnight. Like it just, someone gobbled it up and then her and I tracked it for the next, like, I mean, years, several years.
It went through different big directors and big actresses. And we just, Nan and I were like determined to track where this script went. And all of the sudden,
It finally matriculates over to none other than Happy Madison. Happy Madison. And that is to anyone who doesn't know is Adam Sandler's company. He's always done it with the same people. He always will. He's such a loyalist.
And it was everybody I knew from The Wedding Singer. Oh, another great one. Yeah. I love that movie. Oh, another monster. Well, I stalked him. I was like, I know that you and I are supposed to be Catherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy, except for probably through more of like a Marty Feldman buddy hack at Lens.
I'm not fancying myself, Katherine Hepburn here. I've got purple hair and a leopard coat on and you're like sporty sport. You're sporty spice. So nothing about this physically says that this is a match, but I am convinced, Adam, that you and I are supposed to be cinematic soulmates.
And we did The Wedding Singer together. And then I think it was like 10 or 11 years later, I found out the script went to him. I ran into my trailer. We were filming Charlie's Angels on the Sony lot. Happy Madison was on the Sony lot. And instead of running over to his office, I thought I'm going to type out a letter for him. So I got on my Olivetti typewriter and I typed out this letter to him, hysterically sobbing. And this, I think...
The power of a letter. I've had multiple things happen that have changed my life for the better or in palpable, powerful ways through a letter. Don't deny the power of a letter. And I said, I know we've talked about maybe coming back together. We set ourselves up.
real well in the first one, which kind of fucks us up for the second one because the expectations are going to be really high for both of us. And we can't do something that is less than we have to do something equal or maybe even more than. And I am convinced that this is the movie.
And I had someone run the letter over to his office. He showed up at my trailer. Barrymore. What are you trying to do? He's like, why do you like this movie? We're trying to make it into a comedy. And I said, oh, my God, really?
And he goes, yeah. And I go, but OK, interesting. Well, damn it. You cannot lose what is so fucking important about this movie, which is how do you make someone fall in love with you every day? And the poetry like as a woman, I've never been more fucking moved in my life. You can't wash that away with goofiness.
And he was like, yeah, but we know comedy and we know what guys want. I said, and you know what? I know what girls want. He goes, well, then obviously you've got to produce it with me. And I said, well, obviously we've got to make this movie together. And he was like, so it's happening. And I'm like, is it happening? Really? Wow. What a great story. I love it. We went to work right away and we got Flower Films, which was me and Nan and Happy Madison, which was him and the boys.
And we sat there and we rewrote the movie based on what we thought went like what we were all looking for. Yeah. And this was in the day where as a producer early on, I was told, you know, men make the decisions about where to go to the movie that weekend and the girlfriend will go with that.
And that's a gender stereotype that I just thought, oh, God, that's crazy. All right. Well, I don't know what to do with that information, but thank you for telling me that. And we tried to make it this balanced seesaw. And we met with directors and it was in Pete Siegel, who
You know, I always think I got lucky and had a knack for seeing things in directors that they hadn't had in their work before. And with Pete Siegel, I knew he was the guy. I knew he got the tone. And this was going to be such a challenge to straddle like whale sperm flying in faces one minute and trying to connect with the human heart.
And move people in the next scene. And I was like, this is going to take a very unique conductor to pull this all up and make everybody happy. And I knew that Pete could do it because of our conversations. I knew he got it. And he did another big comedy, drew what?
Tommy Boy. Oh, he was your director 10 years before, which is another really, really great film. Isn't that crazy? Look at your face. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I didn't even realize that. That is a fucking masterpiece. Can you believe? When you said Pete Siegel, I go, you got the right guy. Oh, my God. Tommy Boy. I mean, that's an iconic movie, David. Iconic.
Like history books. Well, I love Tommy boy. And I'm thinking for you guys to balance that, the team of you Sandler, uh,
And Pete, and then you throw Rob Schneider in a coconut bra or whatever he did. Oh my God. Ula. Ula. Oh, shop hat. That's a real guy he was based on. Oh, yeah. Schneider does these great funny characters. But it's interesting, Drew, you say that, that the bones of it was a drama because that's still, whatever you guys did. It's kind of what it is. It resonated.
by the third actor when he's on the boat, he sees you again. It got me verklempt. I mean, I took the ride with it. And that's hard to do in a comedy. It's very hard to do. It was my life and very much with the show that, again, I am lucky enough to make. And we fight so hard for it over here. We have the best time making it, but it makes...
making a show and broadcast daytime in this time is really challenging. And we're trying to find new ways to reinvent it. But I want to be greedy in life and have all the tones. I think we have all the feels and therefore there are all the tones and there are all the life experiences and no journey is devoid of
tragedy and laughter and love and heartbreak and death and loss and ecstasy and
And, you know, maybe children, if you choose to go that route and, you know, relationship, it's just, it's all the things. And so I don't like it's music, you know, and it's visuals and cinema, like it's books. It's, it's everything. It's everything. And I want so badly to put everything in a blender. Hmm.
But then I think the trick is you still have to make it your own. You have to be you. But I love all the, all the tones. And I, I 50 first dates is definitely a fun tonal example that you can, you
- Do both. - Kind of have it all. - Really well done, really well put together. - But I'm aiming for that for everything in my life. - Sure. - Can it, like maybe the North Stars can be simplified down to heart and humor. - Maybe you're like Paris, that Ernest Hemingway called it a movable feast. - Of course, that's a beautiful book. - Yeah, well that phrase is just sort of encompasses kind of what you're saying.
- The magistry and the symphony of life and all slings and arrows and ups and downs and all better philosophers than me have spoke to, but to live is to suffer and have joy every day. And we had a joy today visiting with you. - We did, we gotta let Drew go. - I was a top Joe host in a previous life.
Quoting Hemingway perfectly. It is such like, I was so excited to do this with you guys. I thank you for choosing me. Thank you for having me. We're thrilled. Thank you for everything that you've done. I love,
I just love and admire you. And I'm, I'm, well, you've, you've brought a, an energy and a, a different point of view. And you're, you know, you're so far sort of an outlier. It was really great to get you on our podcast and hear you speak to all this stuff. Really. Great. Thank you. Oh God. And by the way, I will be on the T forever of laughter. So, um,
Please keep giving it to everyone. And I'm glad you guys are doing this. Thank you for having me to the party. Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, fleas? What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions, ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyonthewallatcadence13.com.
Okay, Andrew Brewer. Now, this is a great one because Andrew Brewer is, it says, hey, it's Brewer, your old censor from the SNL days. Now, Dana, we've talked about him. We always say something nice about him. He was a cool dude and he was fun and he had a tough job. You would write a script and then you, if it was a little risque, you would write a script
You'd have to run it by Andrew. And so you would load it up. Like it would be like hard triple X. Yeah. So that he could negotiate. He'd say, well, I'm going to take this out and this out. I mean, you couldn't swear, but you could negotiate. Yeah. So if you put two in there you didn't care about, you would give them those. Then you still have your real script. But he kind of caught on to that one. I think he knew the whole game. But it says, do you boys, this is his question. Do you boys recall any run-ins we had while we were all on the show? Of course. He has ideas. Dana. Dana.
I'll ask it for him. The one that comes to mind is a taped black and white Wayne's world piece that you did with Mike Madonna and you were in a hotel room. It was full S and M. I remember that.
Very steamy in the day. We spent a lot of time in the editing room. Yeah. And the nude beach sketch, which almost got him fired. Yeah, I had a unitard on as Garth and a cod piece. I remember that one. And I was strutting around on Scudder. That was a big deal. And Madonna was like touching herself. I don't know why we haven't. Who shot that? Schiller? Probably. It was cool. It was really fun to be. That was a good bit. Yeah. It was really funny. But yeah, it was a little risque. Okay.
In those days. Yeah. And I did Hollywood Minute with him and he said, one of the ones I remember he told you not to do, but I did it anyway. Oh, it was a joke that was something like, Pam Anderson found Tommy Lee's new penis tattoo hard to swallow. Yeah.
That's a good classic joke. And he said he took it out for the West Coast feed before it got to the West Coast. Oh, my God. Oh, did he? Yeah. Well, the one that took like a year to get on, and I'm not sure who wrote it, maybe Smigel, but it was just guys at Anudis Beach. So when we finally did it with Tom Hanks, we all just had whatever diapers on our way.
We're behind a slap. You see our legs and you see our torsos. Yeah, you don't see the wiener part. Like we're nude at a beach and we're just commenting about each other's, hey, nice penis. How's that? How's the penis going? Hey, Ray, terrific penis. And we say penis like 300 times. Yeah.
So, but the time Andrew got through with it, it was down to $1.99. Yeah, he goes, I slashed it down. He slashed it. Look, he says, I always apologize afterwards. Me. He said, Spade, I'll give you this. He always apologized afterwards. Well, that means I just didn't do what he said and then asked, what is it called? Don't ask permission, ask.
Yeah, that's for forgiveness. Well, I don't know if he was there when we did that Italian sketch where I had Victoria on the table. Oh, that was a great one. I wasn't supposed to do that move. Look it up. He was there when I said pussy on update, but he told me I have to say husser. And Dennis goes, Spudley, you better fucking nail this one. You're going to get shit canned right before we go on live. And then I go, I'm going to go out after the show and get some husser. And then they laugh and he goes, you're fucking gone, Spudley.
Because they laughed too hard. He just had a little cracker. You're out of here, man. You swallowed the word. You fucked up, guy. You're out. Jesus. Go to Sleepy's. Get a new mattress, okay? You like Sleepy's. I know. Andrew, thank you, bud. Yeah, Andrew was very cool. On a personal note, this is just really interesting because you always wonder where people end up. People behind the scenes or he worked as a censor. But he writes to us here saying,
Which sounds so awesome. I'm currently kicking back and living in Barcelona, drinking cheap red wine and attending Spanish school. I love it. Come visit your old Pali sensor XO Andrew. So I would just say you're the champion of life.
You beat life Anyone who's drinking Sheep wine in Barcelona And kicking back Is the champion of life Maybe I got an Emmy On Saturday Night Live But you're the real Emmy winner Andrew Yeah you're stuffed In my basement Doing reading questions
I think he won that round. Yeah, we're still dancing and sweating for our nickel, man. We don't have time to drink wine or go to Barcelona or nothing. Pennies. We're sad. We're puffy little clowns. We need attention. We'll never quit. Never stop. We're puffy? Puffy little clowns. Ruddy face, puffy little clowns. I flush a lot now that I'm over 50 for no apparent reason. All right. Thank you, Andrew. Thank you, Andrew. Please write again.
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