Christina Applegate
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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, Hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So, um, you won't regret it. I'm a nibbler Dana. And I think you are too, but you always know me that I just have to keep the energy going. Um,

And I think because I learned from my dad, pistachios are a good source of just, you know, nibble, wake you up. They're always delicious. I actually named a character in a movie I did called Master of Disguise. The lead character's name is pistachio. That's how much I love pistachios. Yeah. Well, wonderful pistachios have literally come out of their shells. It's the same taste. It's delicious, but...

It's a lot less work. As you know, cracking them open can be a little bit of a job. Less cracking, more snacking is what I say. That's what I say. That's what you say. And I'm going to use that when my wife goes to the store. Wonderful pistachios. No shells. Flavors come in a variety of award-winning flavors, including chili roasted. Honey roasted. Mm-hmm.

Sea salt and vinegar, smoky barbecue. Sea salt and pepper is one I like the most. And I'm going to try this jalapeno lime. They don't have a red, red necky flavor just yet. Yeah, look at him there. Red, red necky loves pistachios. I like to crack things open and put them in my mouth.

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So we talked about this sketch where I played an Indian gentleman and Kevin Nealon was in it. Rob Schneider is in it. Phil Hartman, Tim Meadows. And we were sort of asking her to remove clothing to go through an airport security thing. And I said, I apologize. So it got some traction out there. Like it was a tearful hat in hand apology. It was, it was, it was, I was, I was kidding really. It was like, I officially want to, it was 1992. Yeah.

I don't think I wrote that sketch. So we had Ryder, the whole audience went crazy. Sharon, why we, you do the sketch like six times with, you know, the read through and this and then rehearsals. She was such a sport with it. So there was no reason to apologize. But,

but it really got traction. Like it was sort of a tearful. I'm so it was like Dana Carvey goes on hands and knees and begs forgiveness. Yeah. It's like, look, I did every nationality. I still do it. I don't make apologies, but if I sidebar,

A very, very good friend of mine is Hindu. He's from India. He's the director of cardiology at Cedars-Sinai. I call him PK, PK Shah, Dr. Shah. He's brilliant. He's a really good friend. Every single benefit

I've done for Cedars-Sinai Heart Institute. I do some standup and I can't get out of there until I do my PK stuff. And he loves it. So I, um, I, I don't have a problem with it. And my friend does not either. David. Afterwards, they said, PK, what do you think? And he goes, I do not know who Dana Carvey is. Yeah.

I like, Oh, I agree, Dana, that we get, we, you know, we like to get talked about. We get a lot of nice YouTube comments. We get a lot of people that talk about it in, uh, articles get picked up about people we interview and it's usually some fun stuff. And, uh, Sharon had so many articles about her interview, which means it was sort of interesting. She's, she's very smart. She's funny. She, she,

I love her. I think she's a great girl. And I even hit her up after and said, it's always funny the things you say on there. She just has quick wit. And she got picked up for saying Shia LaBeouf was a genius. She got picked up for saying Dana Carvey groveled and apologized to her. Yeah, on all fours. Now it's groveled.

Yeah. She said, I know the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor or something like that. Yeah. Like she goes, I know when people are trying to pull something on me and you guys, she said, I've been, you know, it's basically, she's in a showbiz with the wine scenes of the world when she was here. Yeah. And she knows what's real and

And what's actually terrifying and bad. Yeah. She knows what it's like when the monster says, close the door, won't you? Yeah. But a goofy. Yeah. But a goofball comedian like Dana. A harmless goofball. On a goofy show. Yeah. Weighs 140 pounds soaking wet in those days. Well, let's also talk about our lovely new guest, Christina Applegate. Yes. Who is.

I know maybe a little more than you do, only because I knew her a little bit in the old days because she was on, as they called it, Married with Kids, Married with Children, which was a monster hit. We had Ed O'Neill on here. Everyone likes that show. Everyone knows it. It was breaking a lot of ground. And she was like growing up, turning into a huge star on a big show. We got into that with her. She was in Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead, which Heather, I just read yesterday, they're remaking it.

Is that crazy? Is that weird? Is that weird? Yeah. She didn't even say anything. I was like, I don't know if she knows. Anyway, she talked about everything in her life. What a lovely girl we cracked up. We tried to make her laugh a lot. She made us laugh and I had a great time with her. Yeah. She's such a talented actress and she talked very openly about her health issues with MS and

and how it's upended her life. And so it was, uh, it was a very real raw interview and she's funny the whole time. She's always being funny, but she's just being very honest about it. And so it was, um, different in that way. But, um, she has a new podcast out. Um, and, uh, the name is Jamie Lynn. It's messy, right? Yeah.

It's messy with M-E, a capital S, small s-y. Messy, which they talk about

dealing with different autoimmune diseases and MS and then just anything that's messy in life. And I do think she's uniquely skilled as well to be a great podcaster. Jamie Lynn, is it Segler? Segler. Segler. And who's also was from The Sopranos, also very funny actress. And so they probably, it's probably a fun one. You know, they talk about stuff, but they keep it light. And she was cracking up because she,

I know my neck gives me stuff. And when people start talking about that in my life, I'm like, I just want to talk about fun stuff. Like I don't want to over talk. And I'm right now, people are over talking about that stuff with her. That'll go away. Let's get back to her career and how much she, uh, how much great stuff she's, and she is, she's super fast and funny. And it, and, uh,

There may be a podcast with David and no, I can't say that. Right. Remember that was our mic drop at the end, but she kind of reminds me of you. It just in your quickness, you know, she's quick. She was a blast and glad we got to talk to her. So here she is. Christine Applegate.

Christine has said one minute ago, she goes, is this today? What? They go, you're doing Fly on the Wall. She goes, wait, right now? No, I didn't say that. I didn't know it. Honestly, yesterday, I forgot that we were doing it today. So I'm glad that at least some people are on top of it. I missed one with Will Arnett. I was just having dinner and I had no idea. So David did it without me. I did the whole thing.

That's why it's great. You have a partner in your podcast in case you're like space out. I've spaced out and I've, but no, we, we try to make sure we're both there. Okay. We're going to, let's start talking about your podcast and your hair. Let's talk about your podcast and your hair. Oh, I don't want to talk about my hair. It's filthy. That's not because I did Kimmel on Monday. I showered on Monday. There you go. I saw your appearance on Kimmel. Extremely funny. Thank you. Relaxed, confident. Yeah. Well,

We'll call it that. I like the way you were like talking to the audience. Like you guys don't really get me. I think it's like, I think the thing with having this disease is that people don't know if they can laugh. And I just try to make it so that we can just laugh. So we aren't crying about it. So for me, that's kind of my MO basically is that,

I know how it is for people to see me like this. You know, my appearance has changed drastically. I have a cane. It's a bummer. So I try to just let people off the hook and then we don't have to talk about it and we can not have that little elephant in the room.

We also don't want sad faces. I had a disease, coronary artery disease, and you'd get what I call the RCA victor. The head would tilt. Yeah. And they'd say, are you okay? Right, the little dog guy. Yeah. And-

Yeah. You just want to diffuse all that because who wants to be pitied? That's the worst feeling in the world. Yeah. I don't. Yeah. I want to, I want, if I have the opportunity, let's just laugh about pretty much everything. And that's not really how I feel inside. I mean, I'm bummed. I'm bummed as shit. You know, I, I, I hate it, but I also don't, I can't just like sit in it. Yeah, I agree. And I, I, uh,

I like your MSMO because it's a good way to handle any sort of problems going on in your life where we're all kind of from comedy backgrounds and it's sort of the move is to go back to comedy because it's the only thing that kind of saves you

And just keeps it light, even though it could be very heavy. And it can't, you know, behind my closed doors in my house, the people that are here with me who take care of me, they see, they see me crumble. So all the time. So out in the world, I just like to keep, I guess, keep my, my nervous breakdowns private. We'll keep them private.

At home. Keep the breakdown for that 12 minutes of Kimmel. Just push through. Say whatever comes to your mind. I could be having the worst day of my life and then I see David Spade's face. And then it becomes worse. Oh no, it gets better. And then it's like, well, then the second thought is how did I get myself into this?

Third thought is how do I extricate myself? Stop now. Oh, but I think the fact that you're doing a podcast, because I listen to a lot. I think you have one out or two out. We have. We just started yesterday. I mean, it launched yesterday, but just welcome to us kind of thing. What we're about. Yeah. You're you're I think you're really good at this. That's my blush review. So and I think it's going to be great. So thank you. I told other people that before I told you people think.

No, it must be fun for you because it's such a fun, riffy brain exercise, like what we're doing right now as a job. Yeah, it is. I mean, this is my job now. I am disabled. I don't think I can work. So this is my job. This is what I have going on in my life right now. And the only thing. So-

So we started really about almost like last year. So we've got like 10 episodes already done. Oh, really? So we can kind of relax right now, sort of. I mean, not as far as recording, but we have a lot of people coming up, obviously. But it's nice that we have the 10 so we can just kind of not freak out about what we're going to talk about. But what we do is like if we're having an issue in our life, Jamie will call or I'll call her and say,

I want to talk about this, but let's record it. And that's why we get it. It's very raw. And so, and it's very honest and it's not, you know, nothing's planned. And yeah, it's like our little therapy session that we. Well, will you tell the fine people listening a little more? It's Jamie Lee Sigler, right? Yeah. Jamie Lynn Sigler and I both have MS and she's had it for about 20 years. She kept it a secret for at least 10.

So she was living in with this invisible disease, trying to hide it on the Sopranos. She was on the Sopranos. If, if nobody knows, but she was hiding it until she couldn't. So, you know, I knew when her, her walking got worse and things like that. So, um,

Um, but she, I couldn't imagine keeping it a secret. Cause I was like, once I found out, I was like, yay, I can tell people because people weren't staring at me because I was walking weird or off balance or my speech would get strange and my hands would shiver because I was, my nervous system was going into overload. So that's, that's our deal. And she and I are friends and it was birthed out of the two of us.

literally just talking on the phone about a year ago or two years ago. No, I talked, no, three years ago. I don't know. How long have I had this? For a minute. So it just was like, we would talk on the phone for hours and we'd be laughing and crying. And we're like, you know what? Let's record this because I think

Not just people with MS want to hear this, but anyone who's just going through something. And we're all going through something. So I was really... But then we also want to be funny and we have great guests that are hilarious. And that's like our little comic relief is our guests are like people that we know, people that we love. And so those conversations are also in the same vein as the ones that Jamie and I do just on our own. Did you...

set out to make sure you have a guest every time or is it random like sometimes it can just be you two or sometimes you have a guest or is it always a guest no no no there'll be like two of us by ourselves and then a guest and we don't really have a pattern it's kind of good that's less stress oh yeah because we don't we don't want to have to deal with like people's schedules and stuff and it gets changed and so we have like a lot of just the two of us talking about

about pretty deep stuff and some stupid stuff, you know, just, and then parenting or whatever's going on that day. And then we'll be like, oh, you know who we should have on? And it kind of is dictated by them when they can do it. Right. But we are for our three guests that we have recorded are pretty cool. It's like Edie Falco, Martin Short and Jimmy Kimmel right now. So that's, those are the ones recorded and those will just space out.

As we go. And it's called messy. Messy. So people know with a capital S. A big, yes, a big M and a big S in the middle. Yeah. I do like to say that that was my idea, like a little play on. That's very cool. And I do, I do like the name because then it does give you the giant scope because life is messy. Very. And on every quadrant. So you're never run out of stuff to talk about. No, you don't. We really don't.

Yeah. Yeah. What would you like to talk about? Yeah, we can talk about anything here. We can talk about, Christina has always been on TV. I have some questions about, just because chronologically, when I heard about you was married with children. And one of my weird questions was,

When you're on that show, which turns into such a monster hit, but you were pretty young when you started and you were kind of a sex symbol when it ended. Is that a weird transition? You're pretty young to be a sex symbol. Well, because I didn't see myself as that, I just went back to living my life, you know, and I made choices after I left there to not do that again, you know, not play the

blonde right away. I think the first movie I did when I left married was called Nowhere. It was a Greg Araki movie and I had purple and black hair. It was short. I had braces in it.

I mean, I had a lisp. I had a limp. I mean, I went like complete polar opposite. You went the other way. Because I had that for me, like very cathartic for me to. Did you just get shorter? What happened, Dave? Yeah. Okay. That's my thing. I didn't think you could get any shorter, Dave. You fucking asshole. Hey, wait a minute. We promised we wouldn't. That's the kind of honesty I love.

I'm more touchy. That is Christina Avocade, and that is messy, ladies and gentlemen. We'll be right back. I literally almost fell out of frame. I know. I saw you went from here to here. I kind of sat down. You went down here for a second. So anyway, Herve Valachez. You're just trying to find your good angle. Anything about me is off limits, but anything about you is on limits. That's what we've decided. Fuck no. We're going to talk about you because you and I have known each other a very, very, very long time. Can I get some dirt? I'm the third wheel here, but can I get some dirt?

that you guys have either experienced together or you talked about some dirt, some, some trending something. I don't know if there's dirt. I mean, I Prince Harry, anything. Oh, I don't know those people. Why would I know these people? I don't leave my house.

No, but we, Dave and I, we met on, on SNL. I think I was, I don't even think I was like 21 even. I don't know. Oh really? When you, oh wow. Cause that was, was it still married with children or you don't know? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. 93. May of 93. Okay. All right. And I sort of gravitated towards you and Adam and,

and chris barley yeah and we kind of hung out after work a few times like we were probably 26 yeah we were like it wasn't that far apart we were going to bars we were like we it was like you guys kind of took me under your wing and i had such a good time with all of you and that was and you know of course chris and you and i being in the sketch the very first time van down by the river and

We were laughing. Yes, that's legendary. I have to say, I hear about that. I can't say every day anymore, but it comes up so many times because that's how your name comes up always. People go, oh my God, you were in the thing with Christina Applegate. Was that the first one? And you were laughing. I'm like, listen, no one really wanted us to laugh. No, that's like in trouble stuff. Like you get in trouble there if you laugh. But what had happened to me personally is you, I know now it's like, ha ha, everybody laughs.

Giggle, laugh at yourself at how funny you is. You came down the stairs at the beginning and we had just done gap girls. Oh, that's right. And you still had purple eyeshadow on. So now I'm already done. I'm like,

And it was not like just a little, it was like the full eye of purple eyeshadow or blue eyeshadow. Not enough time to get it off. Right. No. And I, I was like, I was already on the precipice of, of losing it. And then Chris comes out and does his thing, but he's taken it to 11. Whereas in rehearsal, it was 9.5, but then it was like, he went, he,

so far into Looney Town and Dave and I could not handle. And I remember- We've never seen such bigness. No, like Julia and Phil were so like, kind of looking at us like mad at us because we were being like, oh no, they were very professional and we were not. Who went, I mean, cause it's just, it's so iconic. And Chris Farley did go to a level of energy that I don't think we've ever seen achieved on the show. No, no.

Of any kind, but did you guys simultaneously, were you across from each other, got eye contact and just. No, we were side by side. We were side by side and I could feel. And so who went first? You could just feel him vibrating. I think both of us. Yes. He was my vibrator that day. No, he and I, I think we both broke at the same time. It was like, it was one thing he did. And you and I both just like, I could feel both of us like whole trying to hold it in as much as we could.

And then I put my hair in front of my eyes because I knew I had a line come up, like my only funny line in the sketch. And I was like, I'm going to say this freaking line. What do you say? What do you do with your life? You say, I'm going to live down by the river.

And I, with everything that was in myself to like pull it together, pull it together, pull it together, pull it together, just to deliver the line. And then I was done again. Then you can punch out again. Yes, I can punch out. He made, he made, I'm just thinking of it now, just the, the, the squat, deep squat he was in and then the way he would pull up his pants again, he just took it to a level I've never seen. That's a movie he's done before, but.

It's supernatural. It's that corkscrew where he's like pulling his belt side to side. It was just snapping. And then he falls into the table and that was it. I think we just... We were like, did he ever fall into the table before? And we're like, yeah, he fell into the table before. But the way he had fallen into the table in that particular moment was way...

Right. Dangerous. It's the real one versus the rehearsal one. The real one matters. And that's when everybody gives everything. Yeah. Yeah. If you're lucky, you're peaking on air. You want to think, oh, this is the best I've ever done it. You hate to hate to peek at dress. He almost fell through the floor too. Oh, it was, it was, it was so nuts. Oh my God. He was such a, he was so lovely. He, he also, I remember they have this meeting when you get there as a host where all the

and writers get together and pitch ideas in the room, which I know you both know that, but for your listeners may not know that this is your first introduction. And you can kind of tell if people are interested in having you there. I don't think anyone was very interested in me being there because the ideas were all kind of shit. But I remember...

Farley was sitting, he sat at my feet and he just looked up at me with this like crazy look on his face and just get giggled and just kept giggling, just kept giggling. And I was like, who is this very odd human being? Who is this ox?

Yeah. And he came up, he pitched the van down by the river. Oh, did he pitch it in the meeting? Oh, wow. I'm relieved he did. That's great. And I do remember Lauren saying to me, hey, you know, Chris has been pitching this van down by the river thing for years. Would you mind if we do it? He literally said that to me. He's like, I got to throw him a bone on this one. He's pitched it so many times. Yeah.

And I was like, yeah, of course. Why are you asking me? I'm not the boss here. And so we did. And then that is surprising. Remember Bob Odenkirk wrote it and then Bob left the, she must've left by now.

Because I think he said they did it when he wasn't there. So Chris wanted to get it on. Yeah. So it was like a favor, let's say. And for it to become one of the most iconic sketches in SNL history is kind of amazing. And I'm so happy to have been a part of it with you. I loved it too. That was a big moment for me to be in something that was memorable. You do six years in that show and

Just like life, there's a handful of things people remember from it. And that's definitely to be in one of them was an honor. And it made me remember you forever because we got to be in one thing together. I just saw when Taylor, no, when Travis Kelsey yelled at the coach at the Super Bowl. I don't know if you saw that. I don't.

I watch reality programming. What Super Bowl was it again? 49? Anyway. Naked and afraid. Naked and afraid. Nothing like it. Nothing like it. So Travis Kelsey's yelling at the coach. And then the next day there's a meme of Travis Kelsey as Farley yelling at me. And then I never even saw next to me was you, but they put Taylor Swift there.

So it's a meme of him yelling at us. And I'm like, me and Christina, they go, no, that's Taylor. And it looked exactly like you. Oh, I'd love to see that. That's funny. Oh, I'll send you a link. Toyota's national sales event is happening now, meaning it's a great time for a great deal on a dependable Toyota truck. Like the Tundra, workhorse by nature, powerhouse by design, combines raw capability with premium comfort and advanced tech to fuel your wildest adventures.

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It's such a weird phenomenon. Don't people love that? Like to this day. And I was like really little when I did that. Was that mid married with children or something? Yeah. How old were you? 20. You're like 20. You're like the babysitter. But it was such a weird movie day. Not just weird. It was just a good comedy with a funny title. But.

I thought, I don't remember even that much about it other than going, God, that's a funny movie. I don't remember that much about it either because it didn't do well, but it's become this thing. And, you know, catchphrases have come from it, you know, and it's so strange to me. Like still people tell me about it. I think that's very important. I have some movies do okay, a lot don't. And then you go, I just want 10 years later,

the ones that I hear about the most matter because that hits something in somebody and that's what matters. There's some movies that make 200 million and you go, oh yeah, I saw that when it came out. And you go, there's nothing memorable about it. There's nothing. It just comes and goes. So I like the ones that hit a nerve like that. Yeah. I think we had to pay people to see it. I think it was one of those situations. Oh, I got to that far.

Yeah, it was, it was, it was a real slam, not dunk. That's real bad. And then it just grew and grew and grew. And then, you know, the, I'm right on top of it, Rose and dishes are done, man. And all these things that people still like still say to me.

Yeah, you were pretty snarky in it. Was that right? Yeah, I was very, but I was very snarky and I've always been very snarky. And especially when, you know, when I was doing it, it was like a studio movie and I was so like into independence. I'm like, I am not going to do a studio film. Horrible. Real bad. Like I need an indie. Yeah.

I was that, I was really that asshole. And I was like, I was like super resentee doing it too. And I think that- I'm doing you a favor. Yeah, I'm doing you a favor. So I guess it's kind of like made the character kind of a different teen, like icon because I was such-

like, like smoking cigarettes in it and like just snarky and just look like I didn't care. You don't give a fuck. Don't care. And yeah. Yeah. I think Dana, the, the Graham, the somebody, I don't know. Somebody dies and you keep it going. It's in, it's in the title, sweetheart.

Okay, don't tell mom. Don't tell mom. The babysitter's dead. It's starting to sink in. Now I'm starting to get it. And is it available on Amazon, Netflix? I'm sure it's available. Christina will come over and just act it out. Wherever you get your 90s teen comedies. 90s stuff. You can also, it's tied up with PCU in a package deal. Yeah, there you go.

PCU is a movie I did in the old days, Dana. There you go. Back then, we didn't get back in, which really now to this day makes me so mad because I know people have been watching it and buying it and stuff over all these years. You know, that's the kind that makes 10 million in the theater, Dana, and then it makes 100 million on video and someone's quietly raking the fucking money in, but it's not me or Christina. Right. Anchorman was the gift that kept on giving because we also didn't make the money that they wanted us to make.

When it opened. Oh, really? It was considered a flop. What? One of the executives at DreamWorks, who is a friend of mine, called me crying on Monday going, we didn't do it. We just didn't do it. And then it just grew and grew and grew. And we were lucky enough to have a little PC piece on the backy back. And once the DVDs, yes, DVDs came out.

Wait, no, no tapes, VHS tapes. Sorry. There weren't even DVDs back then. Once that happened, it was like,

the little checkies would come in and I'd be like, well, this is, this is the gift that keeps on giving mailbox money. Not anymore, but you know, but then again, from a movie is so rare. Yeah. You say like, it was a, it was a bomb. It was a bomb because it was so different. And then it's like a cult classic or how much did it eventually make? Oh, I, 300 million. I something, I mean like, I'll never see it even close to what those people did. But I mean the fact that like, it was like,

That Monday morning was a somber Monday. What a bummer. You couldn't even celebrate. It took so long for you to figure out it was a hit. One day you're just like, I think this is a fucking hit. Yeah. And then it, yeah. And it's now- Yes. So it has to do X amount to really, sequels are a gamble. But it took 10 years for it to like- Yeah. It was really 10 years of people finding it for it to become that.

Wow. Yeah, but so many lines. Talk about lines to repeat so many stars. Oh, my God. And so many people that just fucking love it. And you had such a good part. Yeah, she was a fun one. And, you know, I wasn't sure about doing that either. I was like, so that guy. I was like, I don't know. What were you sure about? You dodged one bullet, Christina, I think. Let me go do that $100,000 budget movie and be like really. Indie. Sundance. Indie.

I think you, didn't Mike want to get you for Windsor World 2, which didn't do that well, I think. I think the part was it, me being like a slutty girl, I think, or like myself. Oh. But like, or the idea of what I was, and you know me. Yeah. I was like, I can't do that because I am an artist. I remember Lauren saying, Christina Pass. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh.

That was a dumb move. That was news on the set today. You were fine. When anyone turns down anything, my respect meter goes up. They just do what they want. Christina wants to know if it could be an astronaut instead. Yes, an astronaut or science. Top of her class. My wife, who probably didn't watch Married with Children, things like this. She got really acquainted with you.

on dead to me and is a crazy fan of that show. So that must be kind of fun for you where people are like, didn't we are that familiar with another big work and then see this show, which was brilliant. Thank you.

And really, I tell people Ozarks. Why didn't you turn down Dead to Me? You've seen Dead to Me. I was going to lose my SAG insurance. I know I was offered the James Marsden part. It was me and Jimmy Marsden. And I said, let Jimmy do it. You said, I owe Christina a turndown. I'm turning. I'm passing.

Why didn't I turn that down? No, I'm saying why did Dana turn it down? Oh, yeah. Undead to me. Yeah. He can't be bothered with that shit. I miss. You never hurt your career by saying no. These are Lorne isms. There you go. No one's ever ruined their career by saying no. It's only would like you say yes. Yes. He produced a show I was on called Up All Night with Will Arnett.

And Maya Rudolph. I know you're like looking at like, what was that? I was like, it was on for two years, guys. And it's actually really good. It's actually on TV, on the television programs, on TV.

mbc i was at nbc i have a deal with that yes it's a long time i saw lauren a lot while we were doing that no and all your snl people emily spivey created it oh that's pretty safe route you got lauren emily you got yeah well yeah it was very snl heavy when did that bomb when did that bomb um 11 13 years ago 13 years ago because um

I had just had my baby and now she's 13. So we did that for two years from 2011 to 12 to I think then. Yeah. In 2013, the old plug Aruni was pulled. I hate that when I hear about shows getting. But it's actually really like I've seen it now. I didn't see it at the time. And I watch it now and it's really clever because it's about new parents and kind of that.

And I was going through that at the time and Will was going through it. And Maya was going through it, like having like little ones and trying to live, live life and,

And struggling between trying to stay young and drinking all the time. Just all the things that you give up for being a parent. It was actually quite good. I'm not going to lie. I like this figure of speech. That cast is a murderer's row. It's a murderer's row. We have Christina and Maya and Will. Well, people at home that learn about Hollywood, really, if you're pitching a show, even to this day, they'll be like,

who's your showrunner we want a sexy showrunner that people know like a tina fey someone that's they just don't want to get fired so they're like if i put christina in it she's a big star tina fey is a big writer we get a big producer in there and we get a good studio that is the safe way to try they'll buy that because they don't want to have anyone pointing to them saying why would you buy that it didn't work you say this is the safest we can do everyone's good and

And so with that cast, everyone's good. Probably a good idea. And sometimes, and two years isn't bad. That's not bombing overnight. I am the two year queen. Every show that I've had, that's been my show has only been two years, except for dead to me. Two years. Dead to me was three. So it didn't really make it out of there too much, but no, I agree. I mean, I think that, but also with our show, like we got to cuss.

on NBC. So we were like the first show that like we bleeped constantly. So it just kind of made it a little edgy, a little whatever. It was like a little show, but yeah,

I think then they kept moving us. That's what happens a lot. It really is. We were doing so well. And then they're like, you're doing well. So let's move you. Yeah. Strong enough to hold another night. And they're like, Nope. And goodbye. And bye. I did two years with your friend, Katie Segal on, um, my friend on, uh, eight simple rules. Let's look at a clip. Yeah, I'm kidding. Uh, no, I, uh,

She was great. And she had done yours and she was great. She's such a solid, like knows what she's doing. No, she's, she's an earth mama. She's, she raised me. So I always say if, if anyone hasn't has any issues with me, it's because I was raised by Katie and Ed. So it's like, if you don't like it, it was Katie and Ed. If you do like it, it was Katie and Ed. Yeah. She was raising Kaylee and the other girls on that show. And, uh,

They went for her all the time. She's what, what Ed O'Neill speak. I mean, we love, we love, we love that. Do we kind of love Ed O'Neill? Like want to hang out with him? Yes. I don't know. He and I, he and I talk on the phone like at least three times a week.

Oh, really? Yes. That's all I need to know. Yes. Like, yeah, at least three times a week. But he calls me a lot, too. And Eddie, it's totally fine. But he'll call me like at weird hours and he knows I sleep to a certain time. And then I'm like, get all these missed calls from Ed. And I'm like, is there an emergency? And he's like, no, I just want to talk, you know. So but yeah, we just sit on the phone for like an hour sometimes and just laugh and.

Talk about life. Yeah. He's, he's something about him. He's fun to talk to, man. Does he FaceTime you from his Brinks truck? I know. The gold bars behind him. Backing that motherfucker up. I swear to God. Wow.

Never ending. Yeah. We went off topic with him because he was like our second guest and I became so fascinated by his background. He was almost a made guy and he's got these Popeye forearms and he's so gentle about it and real. It was like,

there's no sense he's an actor. I said, did you, were you thinking when Mary with Children was blowing up, what's going to happen to you? He goes, no, I was just thinking finishing that week's. I mean, he's the most kind of blue collar vibe about a star. And so fun to talk about anything. Yeah. And, and really just says stuff that's not,

And, and, and those are behind closed doors and it's, it's always been that way. He doesn't care different generation. I like that. He's awesome. And, and I think it's so nice now that because I am a grown, you know, I'm 52 years old and, um, we didn't have this kind of relationship when we were doing the show, you know, we were the kids and Dave and I, and kind of treated differently, um,

like second-class citizens, basically, if you're the kids. And, you know, now... In the household and in the show. Yes, and now, you know, we can be friends because I'm a grown-up. I've had a lot of life that I've lived. And so we talk on the same level, which is what's really nice. And we love each other to death. And Katie, too. Katie's come to see me a couple of times in the last year. And she lays in my bed and we just hold hands and talk and cry and watch TV. ♪

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Well, we started married at 15, but I've been, you know, I joined SAG in 1974. So this has been part of my life for like, not kidding. It's on the, I'm doing a honeycomb commercial. I don't even know what I was doing, but I've been in SAG for a long time. And so I did a lot, I did a lot of stuff before that. I was on two different series before that. And no one saw obviously. And then lots of guest appearances on everything from, you know, silver spoons and,

Family ties, you know, everything that was on at the time I was on. You know what's funny in Married with Children was I think when you came in or any girl that was pretty came in the audience goes, whoo!

Before you could even say a line. It's so fun. It was, yeah. They started to go crazy toward you. We would actually get annoyed sometimes. Yeah, of course. It like breaks the rhythm. It breaks the rhythm, but it also takes up time and then, and then, yeah. But yeah, I never thought I was like, I created that character because I saw a movie called The Western...

The decline of the Western civilization, the metal years. Penelope's fierce. Yes. Yes. And there was a girl in there who just won Miss Bizarre's and they were asking her what she was going to do next. And she says, Miss Bizarre's. Yeah. I'm going to continue with my modeling and my actressing. And she had on, you know, the little Lycra dress and she,

Kelly Bundy was a totally different character before that. She was like biker chick. And, you know, during the years that no one saw it, she was like a little biker chick kind of tough kind of stuff. And I was like, no, we need to represent this, what this is going on right now in the zeitgeist, like these girls, like these rock slutty girls. And I was like, let's go, let's do it. And we went the next day to,

Melrose to get like a bunch of those little dresses that I had never put something on like that in my life. Cause I was a hippie. I love Janis Joplin and the Beatles and Led Zeppelin. I was totally not that guy. And lo and behold, that's where the character came from. How cool that you steer women. They listened to you when you were a teenager and adapted. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Like once they saw the look, we were like, Oh, this, yeah, this is what we're doing. Like we're playing one of those girls that we're seeing in these videos with these hair band guys. Like, well, this is who she is.

And I played her as a virgin. I know a lot of people like laugh at that, but for me, Kelly Bundy was a virgin because I think if, if I had played her as actually, you know, going out there and being slutty, like there would be an essence of that, that I don't think people would have kind of loved her. So for me, it was never said it was just my little, my little secret.

I know you're like, yeah, right. But that's how I play Garth as a version. Yeah. And then you're lovable. Then you're not skanky and you're not like, you know, edgy and it makes people uncomfortable. So I think that's right. Well, Mike assisted me because the second movie, I think his line was this year. And he always did this. Garth finally got pubes. And I was 38 at the time. I'm like,

How am I supposed to play? You guys think I'm 15? There's not enough light. We don't even know how old you are. No one ever knew. Even Garth didn't know his own age. That's really funny. How old are you? I don't know. Those movies were great, by the way. Just FYI.

The first one had a lot of sparkle to it because we had no time and we were just innocent. You know, we were just moving very fast. And the second one is like, well, you know, we'll talk about iconic. I mean, the scene in the car, that's like, you know, you can go on repeat with that. Yeah. Yeah. I was on a zoom. We were on a zoom. We, me and Mike with Brian may and talking about that song and stuff. And I think that, uh,

you know, syncopation is so potent when you see musical movies. So we're all just like wandering around and then the song goes off. Nothing really matters. And we're just, the whole thing is deflated down. And then when I see it, I go, oh fuck, no wonder that was a hit. That feels so good. All heads are going to that beat.

What was that musical L.A. from five years ago? With Ryan Gosling and... La La Land. La La Land. La La Land. When I saw that, I was like, oh, they're on the bench and it's not even that sophisticated, but their legs are crossing at the same time and they're tapping at the same time. It's very irresistible. Let's, you know, just appreciate it, but... Dana goes, that movie, L.A., L.A. Land. L.A. Land. L.A. Land.

He never knew his La La Land until this night. Early onset. That's what she said at my age. No, knock. Knock. It's a joke. Early onset. I have a question, but this one, I don't know if I'm allowed to ask. Let's just call it onset of herpes. This trivia of Christina, you don't have to talk about it, but this River Phoenix, who I don't think I ever ran into, but you were there that night at the Viper Club? Because I live right by the Viper Club.

But you were there that night? Well, I never knew that. That's heavy duty. Were you friends with him? And then I'll ask you. Yep. Goddamn, River Phoenix. What a stud. I was more probably involved in what had happened than people know. And I don't want to talk about it out of respect for Rain and Joaquin. But yes, River actually, and this I can talk about, River was one of the reasons I became a vegetarian at 14 years.

Oh, yeah. He was, you know, his family's vegetarian and, and he brought me to this really incredible like fundraiser event that for his family had a great vegan cookbook. And, and it really like, he really wanted me to just kind of see the light and I did. And it was one of the reasons. And he was early on in that. Oh, he's no, they, he grew up that way. And, but Joaquin who at the time his name was leaf,

He and River and I, when we were like 10, maybe 10 years old, we took break dancing classes with Jason Harvey. Hervey. Jason Hervey? Who's Jason Hervey? I don't know. Google it. He was on the show with the 1950s and the talkie talkie narrator and the kid.

Oh, I know him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What is the show called? Come on. Wonder Years. Thank you. Wonder Years. There we go. We have a winner. So the three of us took break dancing classes with him when we were little.

How did you find break dancing? Cause it's, it's, it's incredibly intense exercise or you go to the floor. It was Jason Hervey teaching it. So it's not like, you know, but I could do like 30. No, I could do like 30 backspins. What does that mean? On your back where you spin on a piece of cardboard. Holy shit. Can't do anything like that now.

For many reasons. I'm old. I have to say, I know Joaquin a little bit and that guy could not be cooler. And what a stud. What a great actor. I never met him. Okay, we're going to go back to Pussycat Dolls.

You were part of the early Pussycat Dolls because I used to see them. Was it maybe the Viper Room? Yeah, it was Viper Room. Our first performances were at Viper. And Robin Anton, who created it, was my roommate. And so it was actually created in my dance studio, which is now my gym, unfortunately. But it was a dance studio. I always made a dance studio in every house that I moved into because I was a dancer at heart.

And, um, yeah, I was in the first, all of it for like, I don't know, we did for like 12 years on it, like at the Viper room and then it got big and it was, then it was at the Roxy. And then we started having singers in it. Like Gwen Stefani, Christina Aguilera, Carmen Electra. Yeah. All these people would come and do the songs. And then Jimmy Iovine from Interscope was like, you know what, let's turn this into a band. And then it wasn't a dance group anymore. Then it became a pop band and it was like changed completely. But yeah.

Yeah. I, it feels like that's something that will come back. Like someone will be like, we're going to read the let's audition the people for the pussycat dolls and remake. I think they have, I think Robin has a place in Vegas. Yeah. Oh, I always like to say this. Robin does owe me like three months rent.

Easily, yeah. And I think she really does. Oh, she does. And one time she pulled up in her Bentley and I was like, you know you owe me at least three months rent before you moved out of here. Because then she became a mogul. She's now a mogul. Mogul. Yeah. I'd like to become a mogul. Yeah, do you want to be a mogul at all?

I don't know. I mean, I'm investing. I'm doing what I can. I'm making some moves. Dana's hair looks good. No one can see it today, but he's nailing it. No one can see it. It's a lot of work. I have only so many soldiers and so much territory. It's like a game of risk up here. Move the troops to the front. Move the troops this way. Hide these. You could have this...

You got a solid scrunchie something going on. I know. It's the only thing I can do. My hair is so like gray now. I got to put it up on top of my head. So how are you feeling like at this moment? I mean, in terms of your energy, is it ebb and flow? Cause you were like really on, on Kimmel last night and you're very sharp right now. You know, I mean, I take,

naps all the time, but do you, how are you managing your energy? Is it just surprising or you, you, can you do stuff like I'll be on this hour? That's kind of how it is. It's like, I have to prepare mentally that I'm going to have to wake up because I do sleep a lot.

And I'm like, okay, let's just do it, do it, do it. And then I do it and then I'm exhausted. And then I'm kind of busted for a few days after doing things. I don't want it to be like that. You know, there's like this little sense of hope in me that I can play tennis again. And, you know, we kind of know I won't be able to, but there's this place in me that I'm like, I belong to a tennis club. I really do. I pay dues at the tennis club.

and I can't play tennis anymore. But there's this part of me that, no, I'm not going to give up my membership because I got to get there. I'm going to get there and I'm going to hit balls. I don't know if it's going to be on the court. I mean, I don't know. You're probably steeped in this, but in the sort of disease I had where my LDL cholesterol would be three to 400, then only last year,

they had a bi-yearly shot, which would bring the bad cholesterol, kind of the pace that your body would use to make arterial plaque. Now mine is 39. There's no side effects. It's done a different way than a statin. In other words,

The technology and now AI and biomedicine are just married at the hip and you're young. I mean, there must be a lot of things coming down the pike. You just never know. Resolve this. There's like the regulars that we all do, which are infusions and they're like pretty hardcore infusions. They, um, they attack the B cells in your body and it's known to now slow progression, uh,

Um, so for the last three years, I've had no new lesions on my brain and no active lesions. There are still lesions, but like for some, the medicine's working to not progress because this is a disease that you eventually you succumb to. Um, if not for these medications, uh, it was the disease that people just died from. You just died.

It was, that was it. And you still can, but we're hoping that, you know, we got these ones that are kind of keeping it from getting worse, but it doesn't get better. That's the thing that I don't think people understand. They're working on getting it better, but right now they're just slowing it down. We're just slowing it down. And so that we can live better.

A little bit longer than what people, you know, people were just dying from it. Like within a year they would become paraplegics and be done. So there is, you know, at least we have these things, but you know, of course, I don't know. I would love for something to be like, we've got it.

Yeah. But because they don't know how you get it, there's always that question of, you know. Oh, they still don't know. No, no. There's a lot of theories on that and no one's really figured it out because it's all different kinds of people with all different kinds of lifestyles and all different kinds, all different ages. Now people are getting in their twenties. It's not like a health thing. It's not like healthy people get it. No, no, not. I mean, all the people that I know who have it, we're all very different lives we've lived and ages and, and,

No one thing. So that's why that's where it gets confusing for the medical industry and the scientists who are trying to figure it out, I think, because there really is no known reason. God, it really raises awareness, though, that you're out there.

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What?

You weren't big-timing us? No. I was literally like, I can't speak to people. I understand. I'm too upset right now. And so until I got my confidence back to be able to see who I was again or get back to who I am in my heart. Understand a million percent. Yeah. And it just, time is such a magic elixir of trying to put your mind around what happened to you, you know, and what's happening because it's surreal, right? It's...

I forget about it in my dreams, you know? And then I wake up in the morning and the first foot goes down onto the ground and all the pain starts again. And then I'm reminded again. And then I just want to get back into bed because I don't want to be reminded of it. I mean, that's really my cyclical thing right now, which is probably not the healthiest for my emotional life and my spiritual life and all the lives that you have. But right now that's the deal. I'm in my dream and I'm doing things. And then I wake up and I'm reminded again of it.

Kind of the hell that people with MS live through. And then people will be like, well, why aren't you doing as well as so-and-so? And you're like, oh my God, it's not, it's so different for every single one of us is so different. It depends on where your lesions are. It depends on when you caught it. It depends on so many things. So it's, I really get, even my dad was like, why Selma's on Dancing with the Stars?

why aren't you doing what Selma did? I was like, oh, M, no. That's frustrating. My own father. Have you tried bananas? Yeah. Are you eating enough bananas? No, he's like, I heard that lion's mane mushrooms can cure it. I said, oh, really? Yeah.

So tell that to the millions of people in America that have it that, oh, we just take a lion's mane mushroom and we're just symptom free. Are you kidding me? The human brain, if someone gets a disease or something, the human brain goes to why they can't get it. Yeah.

I eat tomatoes or whatever it is. It's absurd and ridiculous. They just don't want to think that they don't know. Because it's frightening. It's frightening for people, especially when they ask me, well, how did you get it? And I say, no one knows, man. You could get it tomorrow. I wouldn't say that to someone. But like literally. You can think it. I do think it. I'm like, you keep asking me that. Maybe that's the reason.

But you and Selma are both so funny. Selma's great. I've known her over the years. She's so funny. Sure, she has her ups and downs also, but it's great that I saw her out the other night. She looked great. Anyway, I have Jamie. She's kind of an enigma. No, Selma Blair. Oh, Selma Blair. Jamie and I are always like, how is she doing that? Both of us are like, what? How is she out there? Tomatoes. Apparently, it's tomatoes. Yeah.

gradient scale of how it you know but i it's it just talking to you now it's i think it doing this podcast with jamie is if for better for worse somewhat healing or helpful anyway it's in the helpful column right being able to talk about it with her and talk about it publicly

You've done 10. Are you feeling good that you decided to do this? Yeah. This podcast? Absolutely. Because if I didn't have Jamie and I didn't have these conversations, honestly, like not on a business level of like, of course we want it to do well so that, you know, she and I who don't really work, you know, like live and put food on the table and stuff. But it also has been like, it gives me something to look forward to.

that I'm going to, I'm cause I spend 99.9% of the day alone. And so it's like, I actually get to talk and, and there's an actual conversation and not like my daughter acting me, you know, like mom, go get me my thing, you know? And that's kind of the end of it. No, we, she and I actually hang out, my daughter and I are pretty good friends, but you know, it's like nice to just think of something in the day and think of something to talk about. Then you

do a little pre thing with her and say, what should we do here? And all that stuff is fun. Dana and I do that. It's kind of fun. It's something that I like to fill a day with. It's nice. And, uh, you know, you, what you have is interestingly, you have an unmistakable voice and I do like voices and I, it's just, once you say your voice, I know it's you. And that's great, especially for a podcast. So,

We wish you well with it and we appreciate you coming on here. I just like having some laughs with you for a while. I haven't seen you in so long. I know. And we always like laugh when we're together when we're out in the world. It's fun. Always. Cause we're both really snarky. Yeah. I'm snarky. Dana's a snark. I said to David, I was watching more of your stuff. I said, you guys are kindred spirits. He did say that. He said that right before. There's a certain wit there.

I don't know what you call it, but yeah, you guys. Our sidebars are pretty fun. Like when David and I have been out places. Sidebars. Like surrounded by people like at a party and the two of us find each other and are just like total assholes. It's just, but make each other laugh. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny. Dan Aykroyd is the first person to say I was snarky and I never knew what that word meant and I never heard it.

And then I had to ask people, I said, is that a mean thing to say? They said, no, it's just what you are. And I'm like, well, it could be mean. I don't know. I still don't know. I mean, it can be. But it's funny. I like it. But I like being snarky. I like being like,

offensive and funny. And I enjoy like surprising people by what comes out of my mouth. It makes me happy because that's what's happening in my brain. I'm going to throw this out for you guys. You two do a spinoff podcast. A lot of people have three or four called snark attack. Oh yeah. That's the title. You two. We have one week called snark week. Oh yeah. Snark week. Oh, play on words. And then there's not much to it, but it's a funny play on words.

Yeah, and we just think that we're hilarious. Yeah, we laugh so fucking hard. We laugh at all the funnies that come out of our mouths and no one else is. All right, let's let Christina go and thank you very much, Christina. Thank you for coming on. Thank you so much for having us and thank you for doing what you do and thank you for, I don't know, I love you both. I really do. Thank you for all everything. Huge fan. We're sending you a lot of love. Big fan. Big fan, bye.

This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow, subscribe, leave a like, a review, all this stuff, smash that button, whatever it is, wherever you get your podcasts. Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.