Alex Jones sued the Sandy Hook families over the InfoWars auction, alleging that The Onion made an illegitimate bid and plans to misuse its intellectual property. Jones' attorneys claim the Sandy Hook families manipulated the auction rules to bypass legal procedures.
The original plan was for a wealthy investor to buy InfoWars and leave Alex Jones in charge, allowing him to retain control of the broadcasts while losing ownership of the company.
The View had to issue a legal disclaimer about Matt Gaetz to avoid potential defamation lawsuits. The disclaimer clarified that the allegations against Gaetz were unfounded and should be viewed with skepticism, as the DOJ closed its investigation without bringing charges.
Milo Yiannopoulos views the current state of American media as dominated by moral cowards who say anything to stay on the right side of censors and maintain their financial backing. He believes these individuals present themselves as brave warriors but are actually censoring most of what they say.
Milo Yiannopoulos believes the greatest sin one can commit is to be for sale, meaning to compromise one's principles for money or fame. He finds it intolerable when people in media do this, as it involves lying in formal contexts for financial gain.
Milo Yiannopoulos believes the First Amendment is problematic without Christianity because it lifts the guardrails off morality, leading to a mendacious liar's charter that rewards the most audacious liars. He argues that without the restraining influence of Christian moral teaching, the First Amendment creates a psychic break in the country, resulting in two parallel fact universes.
Milo Yiannopoulos does not believe World War III will happen in the near term, especially with Trump as president-elect. He thinks countries will hold off on any major conflicts until Trump takes office, as they fear his unpredictable and potentially harsh retaliation.
Milo Yiannopoulos views Donald Trump as a generationally historic figure whose fate is entwined with America's. He believes Trump embodies what it means to be America and has become mythological, standing in for the best version of the country. Trump's actions and persona, according to Yiannopoulos, make him a deterrent to potential adversaries.
You know, I never thought that I would be opening a show by saying Alex Jones sues the Sandy Hook families because it seems so strange and inverted. But everything is crazy anyway. So that that.
Is the story. And I feel like it's so bizarro world, but it's literally happening that we have to leave with it, despite the fact that World War Three may be starting. North Korea has deployed troops to fight with Russia. A Chinese vessel has been detained in the Baltic for potentially destroying undersea cables, which some think is the precursor to a larger conflict. And yeah, it's a crazy story. And then there's a bunch of other stuff. I don't know. Congress is banning Russia.
from the women's bathrooms and it's caused this whole controversy. There's a funny video earlier where The View was forced to issue a legal disclaimer that the smear against Matt Gaetz is unfounded, should be considered with great skepticism and the DOJ brought no charges. So I figured considering, I don't know, World War III or whatever, maybe, let's start with the weirder domestic story that'll make people, I don't know, enjoy life a little bit. Despite it being a crazy story, at least it's weird enough to where you're going to be interested. But
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Well, thanks for saying that. Well, you're funny. You're a funny guy. It's going to be raucous. I don't give a lot of interviews, but I do like to return from time to time to your show because you've been so good to me over the years, inviting me on when it wasn't always easy. You know, before I was getting phone calls from a certain family to say thanks. Well, you're a fun guy and we love you. Well, thank you for having me. Who are you? What do you do? Introduce yourself.
Who are you? I can't give a worse answer than my dear friend Hotep Jesus did last night. I'm an author and whatnot. And just actually, I think we'll get into it later. But I was the CEO of Yeezy for Kanye West until very recently. Worked for just about everybody in conservative politics. And the author.
of a new book. I've never done this before. I've never done a book tour because I've always thought it was terribly grubby and ghastly. But I am here, we'll talk about it later, to promote my new book, The Wit and Wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes. We'll get into it later. Lovingly compiled by his mentor and role model, me. And we'll get into that later. But yes, I'll tell you all about that. So yeah, I would describe myself as the Jack B.
Bauer of Republican politics, the guy that they have to disavow, but that gets the job done. All right, this should be fun. We got a lot of hanging out. Hey, everybody. What's up? My name is Elad Eliyahu. I'm a journalist here at Timcast. Milo, you're a political force to be reckoned with. I'm excited to hear more about the book and what's going on in Washington. Shane, what's up?
What's up? Shane Cashman, host of Inverted World Live. It's good to see Milo. Hello, Tommy. Welcome back. And everyone thought I was joking two months ago when I said Alex Jones should sue the Sandy Hook families. And here we are. What's up, Phil? Hello, everybody. My name is Phil Labonte. I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains. I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary. Tim?
Let's go. Here's the story from the Wall Street Journal. Alex Jones sues the Onion and Sandy Hook families over InfoWars deal. Attorneys for Jones say the satirical website made illegitimate bid for InfoWars and plans to misuse its intellectual property.
OK, so, you know, Alex Jones, he got sued by the Sandhuk families. The Sandhuk families demanded the maximum penalty, which would have been two point seven five trillion dollars or the GDP of France. It's not a joke. That's that's literally what happened. I know it's crazy times now. Info is up for auction. And I'll give you the quick gist of the story as to what's happening right now.
So The Onion puts in a bid for what Alex Jones' lawyers and another company, it's First United American Companies, is that what it's called? First United American Companies. They say that The Onion offered $1.75 million. However, they got a waiver from the Sandy Hook families, which was to apply the debt from Alex Jones to the sale to increase the value of the sale to then forgive the debt. It seems to make no sense. If what they're alleging is true...
It's basically the Sandy Hooks family saying Alex Jones owes us money. So the money he owes us, we will pass off a debt waiver to the onion to then apply our own debt to the product that we're supposed to be receiving. It makes no sense. It's circuitous. So Alex Jones says at another company.
First United offered three point five million, which should have won the bid. But they changed the rules. They made it strange. And now the accusation from First United and Alex Jones is that the onion is colluding with the families to basically bypass the legal rules of a public auction to sell the company and that within the Infowars properties.
are Alex Jones's personal IP. I believe he's saying it relates to his name and likeness and that it cannot be sold. So it's improperly being sold. And that's the gist of the lawsuit right now. So now it's, he's suing them. I mean, look,
The way the whole thing goes, like trying to get the GDP of France out of somebody and then ending up with $1.5 billion. It's just stupid. None of it makes sense. I spoke to a couple of people, including one well-known homosexual billionaire. And the plan originally was to have some...
somebody who's fond of alex buy the whole thing and then just leave him in charge you know uh so there'll be no effective change from the point of view of the viewers uh and although alex would lose ownership of the company he would still have control of the broadcasts and nothing really would change um that was the plan uh obviously it was ended up being a stitch up and it went to you know the guys it was always supposed to go to um but yes there is a there's an ip issue here where um
Contractually, if your image rights are licensed to a company, that company can't sell your image rights to somebody else without your permission. Normally. So yes, they tried to sell what they... They overplayed their hand because they got so overconfident with this huge trillion dollar judgment. And they tried to sell Alex Jones's right to call himself Alex Jones as part and parcel of the assets of Infowars. And his ex-academy. They want to make him an effigy.
And you can't do that because Alex Jones has licensed the likeness and name of Alex Jones to Infowars, which is the ordinary way of doing things. And so what they may end up with is some assets. By the way, that valuation is ridiculous. I mean, in the...
In the election year in 2016, I think Alex did like 60 million in product sales. I don't know why it's being undervalued like that. Probably for the benefit of the onion so they can buy it, right? Because that in itself is another humiliation ritual, right? I mean, Alex Jones...
Alex Jones' business, I can't speak to his profitability. I don't have visibility on that. But Alex has been a friend of mine for years. And I mean, the guy ships product like you would not believe. I mean, he's the most successful person in this space. And there's no close second. It's a billion dollar humiliation ritual. Well, it is a billion dollar business. InfoWars is a billion dollar business because they just ship that much product. With the brand value and the amount of stuff that they sell,
To sell it for a couple of million is its own kind of humiliation. I think this stopped being about grieving parents a long time ago well, you know, um
I hate to say this because you never know about people's interior lives, but I've never really understood how money makes grief better. And I've never really understood how if your child was taken away from you by some lunatic, how $2 million is going to make you feel better. To my mind, it would just make you feel worse. And there are certain, I won't name them, of course, but there are certain specific
parents of these, you know, dead kids that have behaved in such a way that
Well, I don't need to finish the sentence. Do I? They also happen to have a book coming out soon. They have a book coming out soon as well, these parents. Interesting how that lines up. I've never seen anything like it in history, parents cashing in on the deaths of their children. I've never seen anything like it in my life. And I got to say, tread carefully out of respect for Tim, but I will just say that...
This is not how grieving parents typically behave. This is not how I would behave if I lost somebody who I loved. And it's a very peculiar set of circumstances. And the more they go for Alex over this, the more questions I have about this story in the first place. That's all I'll say. The auction sounds like a hoax. Global Tetrahedron doesn't even sound... I don't know if it's a real company. The CEO, I think, is actually... I mean, you couldn't make it sound... You couldn't make it sound any more satanic, could you? Global Tetrahedron, that sounds like a nice guy. That's the onion's joke.
Right. The Onion was trying to make this one big joke. The issue is, did they legitimately offer a bid or is the trustee just saying they win no matter what? If the argument is Alex Jones owes, think about it this way. They say Alex Jones owns 1.4 something billion dollars. If the Sandy Hook families can apply any amount of that to anyone else's deal, it's literally impossible for anyone to win that auction. Yeah.
That means there's no auction. I mean, San Diego families just decide who can have InfoWars. But this is a bankruptcy proceeding. Nobody gets to just decide. There are rules. Right. And there's a procedure to be followed. And if InfoWars is worth a certain amount of money, there has to be a tender process. I think Alex said the quote was,
The highest bid didn't win, the best bid won. - Right, but you don't, in a bankruptcy proceeding when you have, there are a lot of rules and you don't just get to say, oh, well, the guy, there's somebody offering 50 million, but I'm gonna take the 5 million because I think they're gonna do better with the assets. Like that's not how bankruptcy works. And so-
I mean, thank God for Alex because he's one of those people that just will not take it. The best part of the day when the administrative state, those thugs, went into his studio and shut it down. Everyone, all the leftists online cheering. In 30 minutes, Alex Jones is in a new studio broadcasting. You can't stop him. That is quintessential. He would be...
broadcasting for one of the tanks, you know? Because it's going to take him 30 days to get the title, so we'll broadcast from here. No, I mean, that's Alex through and through. And let me tell you also that the conversations that I had with people who were in a position to buy InfoWars for its true value,
um, they are ready and willing to set him up all over again. So there's, and the value is nobody cares about info wars. No, if people care about Alex, um, and, and he's not going away and, uh, nothing, you know, it's, there are people with the money to do this. I can tell you that are happy to set him up in exactly the position he's in today and bankrupts the way, the way that bankruptcy works, um, uh, in most States, I presume it's the same in Texas, uh, is that, um, uh,
after the proceedings, anything you make afterwards is not subject to the seizures and to the freezes and all the rest of it. So anything that somebody might gift
grant or get Alex involved in after the bankruptcy proceeding or in somebody else's name. There's nothing they can do. Well, look, some wealthy investors launches a company, hires Alex Jones as their principal personality, pays him a pittance, but gives him a corporate credit card. They don't need to pay him a pittance because...
after you're, you know, well, it depends on the nature of the bankruptcy proceedings, but they can either pay him nothing and they just give him the company in seven years, or they can pay him a fortune and give him all his money back. Either way, you lose. You know, either way, the bad guys lose.
And they will. Right. Yeah. It's just a smear campaign. You know, I don't know what the parents, what their motives are for sure, but they seem like they're- They have said it's literally to stop Alex Jones to make it so he can't do his work. I mean, they do blame him. They can't. And there's no way to do it. And there's absolutely no way to shut that man up. You will never be able to do it. Okay, fine. Are you taking my Twitter account? I'll just open a new one. But they can't take his Twitter account because Elon owns it. Oh.
Yes, technically, yeah. The lawyers, ex-lawyers were at one of the hearings, I think. Right. To say, like, you can't take his Twitter. That's crazy. Is that what they said? I don't know if that's exactly what they said. I'm paraphrasing. I don't know that they would need to make an appearance to say that these companies have already asserted this in other cases where they said, when people were selling their accounts, there was like a statement, this is like 10 years ago, they said, you don't own your account and we can disable it if we see that it's been transferred. Almost every, yeah, exactly. Almost every, um, uh,
Almost every account that you have with any social media service, you are in reality kind of operating a sort of free license to use your account on their services, which in most cases is terrible because they can ban you without recourse or they can do whatever. But in this case, it's good because there's an owner who has a say outside of InfoWars.
Here's here's the above the law dot com demon ghoul Alex Jones sues Sandy Hook parents. I just I don't know what world these people live in. I've been I've been watching a lot of the fake news stuff, the MSNBC stuff. It's all really funny to see them start groveling. But it's just it's it doesn't work anymore. These smears, the smears against Matt Gaetz, the smears against Alex Jones, the smears against Brett Kavanaugh, whatever it is, Donald Trump. I just nobody cares. It just we're over it.
Trump won. Republicans won. Regular people are just like, shut up. We don't want to hear it anymore. Alex is going to win in the end. They didn't just win. Did you see that map of county by county? Oh, yeah. The swings. They didn't just win. Yeah, it was a crushing defeat. This is a generational rejection. But have you seen...
Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Charlemagne, Micah and Joe, all of these liberals, Ezra Klein, who a day before the election were like, Trump can't win. Kamala's going to win. This is bad.
A day later, we're like, well, you know, the Democrats, they should have got their act together. But that's because unlike in conservative media, they're paid to do it. They're paid to do that. And then when she loses, the checks stop coming and the bots that are inflating their view accounts and enlarging their numbers on live streams.
suddenly stop showing up because no one's paying the bills anymore. The paid subscribers dry up. I mean, watching David Pakman, I don't know why I particularly enjoy David Pakman's tears versus the others. He's not a particularly distinguished figure, but for some reason, I just enjoy his misery more than anybody else's. Watching him just sort of act mystified as to how he could have lost 5,000 paid subscribers. Like,
Bro, you know, they're not real, you know, you're not popular like have you do you own a mirror? Like do you ever seen have you ever seen your show? Do you do you actually think that people would pay for this like stop he might think he does though. No, it's impossible I want to jump to the next story. Okay, but I do have a quick question. Have you played Baldur's Gate 3?
I haven't. Have you heard about it? I've heard that there's a character based on me. It's literally you, no question. No, the developer told me. Really? When I bought the game... It's like a gay vampire or something, right? Yeah. He's not... all the characters are gay, like the whole game. Because... It's a given in a AAA game these days, everybody's gay, I get it. But it's actually a function of... the funny thing is, originally they were all gay because they couldn't code between male and female, so they just said characters can love characters.
and that's how you ended up with this. In this circumstance, it's literally just that they let characters, they're all biased. - Is that the name? - Asterion. - Asterion, that's right, sorry. - I bought Baldur's Gate 3. Within three minutes or whatever, you encounter Asterion, and the moment I met him, I was like, that's Milo Yiannopoulos. - Somebody reached out and told me, but if you want to play a game featuring me, I have two better recommendations. The first one is Milo Tossa, which is not quite as exciting as it sounds.
Um, it's a, uh, it's a game, um, that came out in 2016 where you play, um, an Iranian jihadi and you have to throw me off a roof and hit a target on the floor. Jeez. Um, uh, that's as Milo Tosso. It's on steam. And the other one, the other one is, uh, um, postal too. Um,
there's a DLC called I think it's called Paradise Lost where on Postal 2 each level is a day of the week and on Wednesday there's a coat check assistant where I they actually reached out to me and I did the voices for it oh wow Postal 2 is one of those hyper violent you know
Is it on Steam? On Steam. I think it's called Postal 2 Paradise Lost. I can only endorse games that I did the voiceovers for. Baldur's Gate 3 will be hearing from my lawyers. Yeah, so Astarion is a vampire spawn, and his character arc is that you can have him basically slaughter thousands of innocents to use their souls to become an ascended vampire.
That's analogous to my career. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. He's got my 2018 hair as well. Yes. Which you can't see today because I have, well, another lawsuit I'm shortly to be involved in. Joe Burrow, if you're watching this and you might be, I have seen you stealing my swag. Has anyone else seen this? No. Joe Burrow. The lesbian coach? Yeah.
Put him up. Call him up. Call him up. Call him up. Serge. Serge. Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow has been appearing. Joe Burrow has been appearing in... Joe Burrow? Isn't that his name? The quarterback? Yeah, he's been appearing. Oh, yeah. He's been showing up in frosted tips and pastel colors, and people will not stop sending me this. He's been stealing my swag. I mean...
Yeah, so I've got a new style icon, as viewers will, discerning and intelligent viewers will tell, my new style icon is of course Tim. Good choice. How am I doing? Am I pulling off? You're doing well. You've got like an extra flare with the gold and everything. Well, I had to bring a little Milo to it. That's right. I did. But no, my new style icon is Tim Paul because my previous look has been stolen by Joe Burrow. Let's jump to the story from the Aight. Shameless.
Sonny Hostin forced to read legal note on The View. Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations. This clip is hilarious. Let's play it for you guys. So I'll set it up.
They have been disparaging Matt Gaetz over these debunked allegations. They were then forced, presumably by legal, to issue this disclaimer. It's a TV cabinet. Maybe he's doing it because he wants to make sure they look good on screen. Sonny, you have a legal note. I do have a legal note. Thank you, Whoopi. She is dying.
Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations, calling the claims, quote, invented, and saying in a statement to ABC News that this false smear following a three-year criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism that DOJ investigation was closed with no charges being brought.
We'll be right back. She was dying inside. There's a little twitch. There's a little sort of black girl pissed off twitch. I've never seen a human being be so angry about dodging a multi-million dollar lawsuit. ABC just waterboarded her. Yeah, they're doing her a favor for God's sake. Seriously. Jimmy Kimmel made several statements of fact last night on his show, and it's also ABC's
I don't know how he stated these things. He didn't say that Matt Gaetz is being investigated. He said Matt Gaetz did these things. So he comes under entertainment. The view in ABC falls under the news division.
So the reason that they have to regularly issue these kinds of denials is that the view is technically a new show. Yeah, but it doesn't mean anything. That's not a distinction for defamation lawsuits. No, it's not. But it means that they fall under a different standards department internally at ABC. So ABC's, you know, when you run, and it does make a difference, for instance, for satire. It does make a difference, for instance, for, you know, comedians have far more license to say things than news anchors.
Practically speaking, right? So if you are a late-night comedian, you have an automatic presumption that much of what you're saying is either comedic, satirical, pastiche, or some sort of burlesque, whatever. If you are a news show informing the public about what happened today...
and the view comes under ABC's news department, it's a completely different team of lawyers, and they have to conform to the same standards, at least in principle, as ABC's nightly news. That's the first time she ever struck the tone of a talking head. That's right. That is why you will see, if you are a regular view watcher, as I am, because I love to intrude on private grief. I prefer chicken city. If you are a regular view watcher, you will regularly see them issue these kinds of statements because they fall under the...
the legal team of the news department. But, you know, the other story on this one, Jimmy Kimmel... It's obviously not entertainment, is it? Jimmy Kimmel comes out and said, Matt Gaetz did these things. It's disgusting. How could he be so stupid that he did do these things? I mean, this is defamation per se. This is accusing someone of committing pedophilia is the most egregious form of defamation. Yeah, but as a public figure in America, you have no defamation. Not defamation per se. Well, this is... So...
In principle, yes, but nobody wins and nobody ever wins, nobody ever brings those cases because by suing, all you do is indelibly link your name with the allegation. So there's no win condition for Matt Gaetz here. You have to just let it go and that's what the comedians know, okay? So if Matt Gaetz sues for something like that, all anybody will ever remember is that Matt Gaetz had to defend himself against X, right? So that's all anyone will remember. So it doesn't really matter. The public opinion. Yeah.
Do you think Gates' nomination for AG will eventually be hung up in Congress or in Senate? No, I think they'll do recess like they said. And I also think that if you cast your mind back to the last 10 attorney generals, I think he'll do a better job than any of them. I think that all of Trump's appointments, with the possible exception of Dr. Oz, who I'm just like pretending I didn't hear. What's Oz doing again? It's a bit of... Irritating Milo? I mean, I...
When I heard Dr. Oz, I just, I made a vow with myself, you know, I was like, I don't hear it. I don't see it. You know, it's just like- What's your beef with Dr. Oz specifically?
He's an insubstantial creepy weirdo. My problem with him was that he's a loser, that he lost the Senate race to John Fetterman, who interestingly enough said that he'd actually vote to confirm Mehmet Oz. Fetterman's adorable. Yeah, well... It's no shame in losing to Fetterman. Between a Republican and a Democrat, I guess I'd prefer the Republican. No, no, no, I would have voted for Fetterman. Fetterman is like a human... These are the split-ticket voters in Pennsylvania, the British split-ticket voters. Which is why...
by the way that um so i sometimes come on this show as uh well whenever i come on the show in fact uh uh you can think of me as a sort of um uh you're going to worry or wonder what's going to happen in the next six months i'll just tell you as i did with uh desantis last time i was here because they give me of cassandra in that way you know about cassandra
who's the high priestess who warns of impending disaster and isn't listened to in the Trojan War, you know, and then she's murdered offstage in Aeschylus' Agamemnon. When Pennsylvania voters go to the polls, they...
for some reason have a little bit of a soft spot for people who aren't quite there. And this is why, this is the real reason the Biden family and the Obamas are so pissed off with Kamala because there is a very real prospect that if Biden had stayed in, he would have won again.
not just because there are purple states that would have stayed with Biden that didn't for Kamala, but because Pennsylvania as the pivotal, the key state in this election already demonstrated that they were willing and able to vote for somebody who wasn't quite all there out of sympathy. The female voters of Pennsylvania in particular, they've already voted Fetterman over Oz and they might well have gone for Biden over Trump. This is the real reason that they're all pissed off because Kamala in her arrogance
possibly cost Biden a second term. So, no, I would have voted for Fetterman. I thought he was sympathetic. I thought he was normal. Well, the way that he has been speaking about Trump shows that he's one of the only Democrats that gets it. He's one of the only Democrats who understands why people like Trump. And Dr. Oz is an uncanny valley alien.
Alien weirdo. I think Trump had a soft spot for him because he was on TV a lot and had a relationship with Oprah Winfrey. Trump likes him because he's famous. And gave him a lot of money. Trump likes him because he's famous and because he gave him a lot of money. And Trump has a few weaknesses like this. A famous member of my family gave me a lot of money.
Any of those three and you'll get stuff you probably shouldn't with Trump, okay? But, you know, Dr. Oz is a classic kind of uncanny valley weirdo. Politics people in general, I mean, I've worked for a lot of senators, a lot of congressmen, I've written a lot of their books, 17 New York Times bestsellers. But I...
Worst pick, though? I mean, not everybody has a Gabbert. There still is RFK Jr. People in politics can't tell weird. There's something wrong with them where they can't tell weird. They can't tell when someone's a bit off because they're all a bit off. And they don't have that sort of like, yeah, OK, he's like a little bit slow, but a nice, normal, likable guy. That guy is from Alpha Centauri.
So, you know, I would have voted for Fetterman. I thought Fetterman was, you know, was... It's a good thing you British people can't vote in our elections. Don't start that nonsense. Who was running against Oz? Was it John Fetterman? No, no, no. The primary. Was it Barnett? There was Barnett and McCormick. He lost to McCormick. Who's now the senator-elect. But the reason Fetterman is... What should the Senate be? The Senate should be an eccentric, peculiar...
distinctively American body that represents the best and worst of the country, just like the House of Lords on which it's modeled, right? It's supposed to be full of eccentric peculiarities who
as a combined body, reflect the character, the wisdom, and the distinctive identity of the country and of the people, right? That's what the Senate's supposed to be. Fetterman achieves that. Oz does. The new Fetterman clone. The new clone. Fetterman keeps getting better. Yeah, yeah. The first Fetterman clone. Clone 12 is the best one yet. We're loving it. But Fetterman does that. Oz doesn't.
Yeah. By the way, he was a dual citizen who served in the Turkish military. What? Really? Yeah. We need to repeal the 17th Amendment. No, he's a dual citizen who served in, I don't even know if it was a Turkish military. I think he might have served in Turkish intelligence. I mean, well, sorry, contradiction in terms of what...
What an amazing thing that is to say to Turkish intelligence. But no, Oz is not just the... If you have problems with dual loyalty, I mean, my goodness. No, Oz is a foreign weirdo. Let's repeal... Thank God for Fetterman. Repeal the 17th. Just get rid of all of them. Get rid of all of them. Listen. What Adam said...
was that the Bill of Rights, meaning everything after the Constitution, the amendments, was suitable only for the government of a moral and religious people. That's right. What he meant by that was Christians. Why wouldn't he say Christian explicitly then? Well, because everybody was Christian. Then why wouldn't he say it explicitly? Because it was a given. You don't need to.
No, Elad, you're wrong. Religious freedom in the time of the founders was about competing Protestant denominations. And those competing Protestant denominations, they want to avoid wars between Calvinists and Presbyterians. So religious freedom was designed to stop civil wars among Protestant denominations.
and moral and religious people meant to the founders and everybody else at the time, Christians. You cannot give non-Christian people unfettered access to speech or guns. It doesn't work and it's not working because if the First Amendment, basically the way this country is set up is
morality is outsourced to Christianity. Okay? You have a huge amount of freedom, unprecedented freedom for people to choose good or to choose evil. And the presumption in this country is that morality will be governed by a set of Christian norms. Even if people aren't like practicing Christians, they kind of inherit the sort of...
a fundamental understanding. Eli is shaking his head. Nobody's wrong. I just want to say that. The idea that the first, second, and our amendments are only made for Christians, I think they would have explicitly said that. Our country, I think, was founded on explicitly the opposite, and they would have said Christian explicitly. The writers of our Constitution were all lawyers. And I got to pause. With all due respect, you are completely wrong, and you need to read
all of what the founding fathers had written about this because it is fairly explicit. Yeah, and I think there was a range of religion amongst them. And what you're saying is not true. The range of religion was Presbyterian, Unitarian. The range of religion was Christian religion. There are no Jewish founders. There are no Muslim founders. There are no Buddhist founders. There are no atheist founders. Let's pause a second. Elad, let's start with the Fifth Amendment. Do you know why the founding fathers created 4th, 5th, and 6th?
specifically know but it's the story of Sodom and Gomorrah it is literally as the spoken word of the founding fathers
Benjamin Franklin said it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent sufferer, which was a play on Blackstone's formulation. It is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent sufferer, which is literally written. And real quick, the story was the story, Sodom and Gomorrah. It is better, you know, if but one righteous person exists, I will not destroy this land. It was literally the Bible, which is why they said we should enshrine this in our constitution. And the inalienable rights that Americans enjoy are...
Given by God and they don't mean Ashanti chakra. They don't mean they mean the Christian deity I don't think they in every I think they would have said so I think you guys are really intelligent and smart founders were and they if they thought Christian and they wanted the country to be explicitly Christian they would have explicitly said so and like I think it's a lot why you guys have to read into it this you guys have to read it into it I gotta stop you. I do tell you to read between the lines. I have
read a lot of the foundational documents and they would have explicitly written in Christianity. When he asked you about 3, 4, and 5, could you have read them out? Do you know what they are? No, not explicitly. But that doesn't... I'm not rejecting... You don't know the amendments you're talking about. I'm not rejecting the religious influence on our founding documents. I'm saying they would have explicitly... Tim, you've done it again. You found the only stupid Jew. My favorite... Hold on, hold on.
- Why don't you think they would have excluded Christian English? - We found the only retarded, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I know I'm supposed to say that, sorry. - Let's pause real quick, real quick, real quick. - They were saying-- - I never know, I never know, I never know. - When they say a good and moral people, they believe that other religions
are immoral because that was the standard back then. - Excuse me, excuse me. Just because I know that you are a recovering libertarian, my dear friend, Phil, that's not the expression. The expression is a moral and religious people. - Fair enough. - Okay, and the religion is Christianity. - Now I want to pause. My favorite amendment.
Is Amendment 7. Okay. What's Amendment 7? Off the top of my head, I can't tell you. How about you tell us, Milo? Stop, Tim. How about you tell us, Milo? Well, he's a British guy. Wait, no, no. Let's hear it. Milo's willing to call me out on knowing it. Not knowing it. I don't know what it is. Milo doesn't have a shit. He doesn't know what it is. He'll complain about Dr. Oz being a dual citizen. He's only a British citizen, so it's really original. I'd like to open up to anybody else. So funny, Milo talking to his trash. Okay, Elad, please. Guys, does anybody else want to take a strike at the Seventh Amendment? I don't know what I've thought to Matt.
I don't know anybody. No one knows this one because it doesn't matter. The Seventh Amendment matters, sort of. It's the right to jury trials in civil cases so long as it's over $20. Now, here's the funny part. Back then, $20 was nuts. Today, $20 ain't nothing. So there is a dramatic change in what that amendment means based on inflation and Federal Reserve policies, which I find hilarious. That being said, Elad,
There are numerous writings. Now, I will stress this. There were some founding fathers who were deist. They believed in God. They didn't follow Christian moral teachings. But it is your argument is a classic and incorrect argument, which doesn't actually look into the letters, the writings, the books.
What you're saying is, why didn't they explicitly state this? It's in the Declaration of Independence. It's the fish and water argument. Okay? So let me start you here. I think they were purposefully inclusive. The founding fathers were purposefully inclusive. How about I finish? Sure. Do you know air was discovered? Do I know? It wasn't officially ever discovered. Yes, it was. You are completely incorrect. Air was discovered. Okay. You are completely incorrect. When was water discovered? Please don't make this guy your White House correspondent. My God in heaven. When was zero discovered?
It was a concept. It kind of always existed. No, my God. It didn't always exist. Humans did not have a concept of zero. It was discovered. Humans did not know that air existed. They thought there was nothing here. It was the ether. There was an energy that you could feel. And then one day, some dude, they used to use these bronze orbs with holes in them and a straw. They would dunk it in water, put their thumb over the back, lift it up, and put it over themselves. One guy goes, hey, what happens if I put my thumb over the back and then put it in the water? Hey, it's gone.
No water went in the little ball. Something must be displacing. Something is displacing the water. And then he said, guys, I got an idea. And that's when we discovered there was actually matter and mass all around us. Why didn't they write about air? It was in them and around them 24-7. There's no reason for the founding fathers who are 99.9% Christian to say, and don't forget, we're all Christians in this room, right? Let's write it down. Except him also to say, it is there in the Declaration of Independence. In Muslim countries, that does happen.
It is there. In all of the founding documents, God is actually present as well. It's just that they don't feel the need to say it in every clause. They never mention Jesus. And there's no mentions of Christianity. Just allusions to moral and religious people. I think John Adams is smart enough that if he meant explicitly Christians, he would have...
said Christians specifically. - I guess he did. - Moral and religiously. - He did. - You just haven't read any of it. - No, no, you're wrong. You're British. - Let's pause. - You think you know a lot more about American politics than you do. - How come our law books don't explicitly state that it only applies to humans?
Is it because we assume as all humans we're not applying laws to dolphins? In American courtrooms until very, very recently in criminal trials in American courtrooms, what book do you swear on so that everyone knows you're telling the truth? I think it's your own religious book. Is it the Talmud?
Is it the Bacchahadvita? Is it the Dead Sea Scrolls? No, it's the Bible. Grow up. Do you know what percentage of this country right now is Christian? Depends on how you define it, but at least 60-70%. No, it does. It self-reports it into their base. Are you discriminating between Christians, Catholics, which denominations...
No, they're all Christians. It's in surveys. It's about 70%. And do you know what that number was in the 60s? Probably closer to 99. Did you hear that? Congratulations.
You could be nice to the ruling elites, you know. If you go back even 50 years, this country is 95% Christian. If you go back 100, it's 100% Christian. There's very few people who weren't. Maybe some immigrants from Asia were, you know, Buddhist or Confucianist or whatever. It would never have been imagined that they would be reigning president. There are Muslim countries who, despite being 99% Muslim, still decide to enshrine their religious law explicitly. They're not America, and that's not what America did. I don't know.
Okay. Did they do it in Britain at all? Is Britain a Christian country? I'm not sure. Maybe you can tell us about Britain instead of America. The King of England is the head of the Church of England. I don't know. That's why I'm asking the British guy, not the American citizen. I can't believe you don't know this, but the British monarch is also the head of the Church of England, which is the Anglican Church. So Canterbury Cathedral has an archbishop who is the...
sort of religious, if you like, the chief executive in corporate terms. And in corporate terms, the president of the board, the chief of the board is the monarch. So if you are an English monarch, you have to be an Anglican because they are also the head of the church because the English church is an established church. So this is a disestablishment which happened in 1776 is where you divorce religion from the state technically, right?
And the reason it happened in 1776 is because if you're gonna cast off the British King, you have to do something about the religion because you can't be sort of paying obeisance to the head of your own religion when you've just deposed him as the head of your state. Okay? Well, Milo, I apologize. It's truly easy to confuse you guys for a British country or a Muslim majority country. Okay, Ilan, I have a question for you. Do you want to finish? Well, just simply to say that
When you see the Washington National Cathedral, for instance, which is an Episcopalian church. The Episcopalian branch of Protestantism was invented basically to mirror high Anglicanism in Britain, is a clone of Canterbury Cathedral. And there's a reason for that, because the Episcopalian church was basically-- and the Washington National Cathedral-- it was created to be a parallel, almost identical religious institution.
And that is where Washington National Cathedral, that's where the presidents get buried. That's where things happen in American public life. All those things where, you know, you see all the presidents lined up and someone's being buried. It happens in Washington National Cathedral, which is an Episcopalian Christian church. That is the national church of this country. So, Elad, I got a question for you about the Second Amendment. Do you know what it is? Yeah. The right to keep and bear arms. I know that one by now. Necessary to the security of a free state. Start from the beginning. Rough.
Roughly, I'm messing up some things. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I think the attitude of the country at the time was of rebellion and they were thinking that they needed to maintain being armed. They wanted to continue the state of rebellion. Makes total sense. No, well, they just saw the tyranny that existed when they weren't armed and they wanted to give the ability and the God-given right. Why didn't they include that in the amendment? The God-given part? Why didn't they write everything you just said down?
Because they spoke in lawyer talk and not... So just one sentence. But clearly if their intent was rebellion, they would have included for these purposes to oppose... Well, a well-regulated militia, I guess, to prevent. I mean, that part could be argued that way. Why didn't they write it down? The whole thing? Why didn't they write down what you're saying? They were quite prolix people. Because there are many thousands... There are more implications that aren't explicitly laid out. The point is this. You mean implications that aren't explicitly laid out like moral and religious people meaning Christian? Yes.
This is my point. No, I don't think those are like-kind still. I still don't think those are like-kind comparisons, though. You're asking why they didn't write Christianity in a Bible when they were all Christians and assumed everyone was. And you're also stating that there are things they meant that they did not write down later. So which is it? I just think you guys are reading into this quote really hard. Answer the question I'm asking you. Repeat it. Were the founding fathers...
leaving out information that was assumed or were there things they intended to include that they didn't write down? There were things left out there. Could that be that everyone in the room was Christian so the assumption was moral and religious meant Christian? It could be but I don't think that's what he's referring to in this quote. I think it's much easier to say if you explicitly mean Christian here, our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. If he meant specifically Christian I think it's an
Obviously, I don't think in other Muslim majority countries. So you made a point. Your point will be answered to don't gish gallop. Satanism is not a religion that the founding fathers would have considered to be moral and religious. Right. I agree. Nor is Judaism. I don't think I
Debatable. I think they would have said Judaism is moral and religious. Not debatable. What other religions did they mean here? Not debatable. Besides Christianity, they only meant Christianity? None. Then I don't see as to why they wouldn't say that explicitly. If they only meant Christianity by moral and religious people, John Adams here, I think he would have said so explicitly. Let me ask you a question. Were they Christians? Let me explain why. Some were, some weren't. Were they Christians? Some were and some weren't. All the founders were some form of Christian. I'll explain. And now the question then is, do Christians typically say that other religions are correct?
I think the Christians say the Jews are chosen people, so something about that. Christians believe in the Jewish Torah, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe one of you Christians could tell me more about it. In order to demonstrate this, you can look, for instance, at the highest authority in America, which is not the president, it's the Supreme Court.
Things are decided in America in courtrooms. The courtrooms are the places where America's national dramas play out, okay? Whether it's Roe v. Wade, the abortion debate is framed in terms of a court case, right? Whether it's the OJ trial, which told white America, there might be a problem here. I don't think blacks are buying into this thing that we wanted them to do post-emancipation, right? I think actually maybe they're just going to vote with other black people and maybe we got a problem here, right? To Trump,
to the Bush-Gore election, all of America's great national dramas are played out in the courtroom. And the Supreme Court is the highest authority in this country because they get to choose the president if no one else can make their mind up. So they can also rule on whether the president go to jail. Of course. And in that place, they are holding their verdicts against a constitution that is based on Christian principles, such as
oath-breaking, the commandment against bearing false witness. Which means if you make a contract with somebody else, you stick to it. And if you don't, they can sue you and you got to pay them. This actually flows directly from the Christian commandment about bearing false witness, just like all the other laws and just like the Constitution. One more point before we jump to the next story, though. You would say that there are people in China, they're religious, they have a religion.
I'm not sure. I believe it's largely Buddhist. I could be wrong. I think there's some Christians. I'm sure there's some moral and religious people in China. Buddhism is a religion, right? I don't think Buddhism is a religion, actually. You don't think Buddhism is a religion? No. I think people are also like Buddhist and other things. I can hear an outcry of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo, Nam-myoho-renge-kyo. How about this? Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. There's a thousand crystals just lit up. What is that? Hinduism. Yeah, okay. Okay. How come in these countries they don't have a Fifth Amendment? Ooh.
Because they're trash countries? That's not an answer. Do you know what the Fifth Amendment is? It's to not be self-incriminated, not to provide... That's the easy one. There's several components to it. So my point is, it is rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. You get a right to a trial, these things, fourth, fifth, and sixth. The right to fourth is search and seizure. If it was just about being religious in general...
Well, the founding fathers understand that China was religious, but they do not protect an individual's right to a trial, a jury of their peers against and against self-incrimination. That's quite literally rooted in the Bible. I researched this intentionally because I was wondering why the founding fathers. I read about all the Bill of Rights.
The first the first amendment was originally supposed to be, what was it like salaries? The second was supposed to be a Porsche man. I could be mixing them up and they ultimately dropped those. There were 17 original articles. They got condensed and some got eliminated. The Second Amendment used to have a line in it that stated that even if you did not serve in the military, you still had your right to keep and bear arms, which was so important because the left is arguing that the Second Amendment only applies to a well-regulated militia. And the original articles for I think it was the fourth time.
stated you don't gotta be in the military you get to keep your guns and they said whoa whoa whoa whoa this could be used in court to argue against conscription that when we call someone up to serve to defend this nation they could say no let's remove that part have it be implied that everyone just keeps to have their guns now the Democrats are literally arguing that it means only a well regulated militia and it's like heavens me did you literally read about anything the founding fathers wrote when they were crafting this they were all like we want to make sure everybody has weapons
It's not just about tyranny, it's a generality. There is fear of a tyrannical government. However, they don't want people rising up against them. There was, what's the, I forgot the guy's name. There was the rebellion after the revolution when they didn't pay the people who fought. They revolted and Jefferson and the other founding fathers were like, no, no, no, no, no, we're pardoning all of them because we cannot found a nation
on internal fighting. There's a bigger component with the Second Amendment, and that is the militia is necessary to a free state, not just to oppose domestic problems, but foreign problems as well. If a foreign nation wants to invade and the average citizenry can rise up and form militia, they are much more defensible. However, because they didn't explicitly write it,
They wrote it in external papers, drafts, and letters. The Democrats are now trying to strip us of those rights. So if you don't know anything about this, you don't read the Federalist Papers, and you don't understand how all this stuff comes, it's easy to... And we can apply this to the First Amendment, too. What is the First Amendment really for? It is to provide people with the freedom to do good or to do evil, right? It's to provide them with the free will to be saved or to be damned, right?
and they can stand or fall on their own words, and no other man can say, you know, you can say this or you cannot say this. Freedom is not really a Christian virtue, but it exists in the Bill of Rights because it provides people with the ability to do right or to do wrong and then be judged by it in the Hereafter. And to be able to express yourself in whatever way you want is a radical, dangerous, and unprecedented level of freedom that has not really existed in society and civilizations before this, that is only possible now.
Because it was assumed that America would always stay Christian. And as America has become less Christian, both of those first two amendments have begun to become a problem, particularly the first one. Because we now live, just to demonstrate how wrong you are, now that we live in a post-Christian America, which I think it's fairly unarguable that we do,
Let me pause real quick, just make a point. And even though the country is 70% Christian, I believe large quantities are not practicing or paying attention or voting. Yes, but I mean, sure. There's a lot, I mean, people who believe in prosperity gospel and whatever, I wouldn't really class as, you know. But continue, continue. Thank you.
Now that we live in what is in many ways a post-Christian country, and I don't think it's because of that. I think what it really is is that a country is its cities, right? Civilization from civis, the Latin, means to live in cities. Civilization means to live in cities, right?
And a country is its cities. And we've lost our cities, right? And the cities determine the character, the laws, and the nature of a society, of a nation. We have lost our cities, and our cities are definitely post-Christian, if not actively anti-Christian. So I think that's probably really what I mean. Now...
That a given, what is the result of that? Well, the First Amendment has provided for this creation of two completely different parallel fact universes that Americans now live in. There's the universe that you live in if you are... I mean, we could... This is an oversimplification, but let's say it's left and right. Let's say it's Democrat, Republican, okay? It's not a very satisfactory way to talk about these categories. Maybe better would be like...
Bernie Trump versus Hillary Romney, right? But there are two completely different fact universes that Americans now live in. And every single issue that you talk about, whether it's moral or practical, has
An A and a B that you have to choose between and most people just line up with their tribe. Okay? We live in these two completely different fact universes. This is a psychic fracture, a damaging, dangerous, psychological rift that has opened up in the heart of the country that has made America schizophrenic. It has given America... And this is a product of freedom shorn of Christianity.
This is a problem of a First Amendment without the restraining influence of Christian moral teaching, which tells us that we must adhere to the truth.
which holds in the transcendentals beauty, truth, and goodness, that we must always aspire to do those things that are good, beautiful, and true, and that promote unity, depending on which church fathers you read. Take Christianity out, and the First Amendment is a mendacious liar's charter that rewards the people who lie the most audaciously and without honor and without regret. And it has created this psychic break.
in the country. That is what happens, and the founders knew this. That is what happens when you have a First Amendment shorn of Christianity. It lifted the guardrails off morality. So we know that this argument is correct because we have witnessed what happens when you take Christianity out of the equation. And let's add to that with the Fifth Amendment. You end up with defense of the worst vile criminals. You end up with people being released. Yes. So I always phrase it like this, and again,
Christians. Hey, I'm not a Christian, but I recognize logic. We'll get you. Sure. If everybody on the planet, if everyone on the planet was Seamus Coughlin, I know Seamus is a good dude. I know what he believes. I know how devout he is. If everyone on the planet had the same moral framework as Seamus, there would be no war. There would be no murder. You would need no police except for getting kittens out of trees.
Because Seamus fears something beyond himself and doesn't want to infringe upon others. I think that's not fire service, but I take your point. And just to say, you may not be a believer yet. You may not be a believer ever. Let me say something real quick about...
hell or whatever. I don't think that most Christians are motivated by a fear of hell. I feel like atheists try to claim that. I feel like when I talk to Seamus, it seems like his greatest concern is being without God's grace. Is that... Well, it's the same thing. So when Dante talks about the circles of hell, the furthest away from God are the cold ice things. Shoot in the devil's mouth. Right.
Yeah, the sort of slow icy chew, because for a Christian to be out of the light and love of God is a cold thing, right? That lake of fire is a metaphor, okay, for torment. And it's the torment of despair. The torment of despair is that position in darkness and distance from which you cannot be saved.
from which God's love and light cannot reach you because you're no longer open to his salvific message. Okay? So, you know, it's a cold place and a dark place. It is, you know, it is out there somewhere in the universe, unreachable by law. And it's, you know, it's a place of ultimate despair. And who is warranting the lowest level of hell? Traitors.
Right. In Dante's Inferno. Correct. Yeah. So, so Dante's teaching, Dante's Inferno is not official Catholic church teaching, but it was written at a time, um, uh, and, and, and within the context, very, very much in a Catholic context. Okay. So it's, it's, you know, it's, it's not official Catholic church teaching, but it is, uh,
has been enormously influential because it reflects the manner in which we think about particular kinds of sins. So for instance, sodomy is one of those sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance. It's like that bad. In addition to, for instance, denying the poor their wages. If you are employing somebody who needs that money to pay their children and without it, their children may go hungry.
and you withdraw their wages, that is...
That is withholding wage. So that's another of the sins that cries out to heaven for vengeance, right? And these things are places that put you beyond and out in the cold, in addition to treachery. And what is treachery? Treachery is oath-breaking. It is a violation of the commandment against bearing false witness. Bearing false witness means lying in official contexts. And that's the basis of American democracy.
I want to go a lot deeper on this. Let's save the rest for the members-only portion, and we can get a little bit more unfriendly and a little bit more adult, I would call it, meaning serious conversations about penalties and things like this. What we really want to see happen to them. Got it. Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial. How Speaker Bans Men from Women's Bathrooms on Capitol Hill. This is a weird story that the Speaker of the House had to say men can't go in the women's room. I don't understand why this...
Speaking of an immoral world. You have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this. Let me get real quick context. For sure. There's a new member of Congress coming in named Sarah McBride, a Democrat. No, no, no.
That's not the name of that person. Well, you can change your name. And legally on paperwork, this person is identifying as Sarah McBride. I'm just trying to give the context. I'll have you follow up. Let me say this, and then you can follow up and explain what's wrong about it and all that stuff. In the media, they have reported an individual who is going by the name Sarah McBride, who is biologically male. I ain't seen a name change document. Have you? No.
Okay. Nancy, I'm Sarah. Not Nancy May says we will not have men in the women's bathrooms in Congress proposed a bill doubled down and said, we will now propose this in all federal buildings in this country. Mike Johnson comes out and says, you know what?
Men cannot use women's, women's cannot use men. Thank you and have a nice day. This is where we currently are. Milo, explain what's going on. So you have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this. The bill that Nancy Mace is putting forward, which would apply to all federal buildings everywhere, for instance, would apply to your local DMV. This is a very good thing and we hope that it passes and we hope that it happens.
Mike, as the Speaker of the House, can say what happens in the Capitol complex, right? So in the Capitol complex, the Speaker of the House determines what happens everywhere. So without a bill being passed, without a law being passed, he's able to institute new rules for how those buildings are used, okay? So Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, has said no biological males in the female bathrooms in the Capitol complex. And that means the offices, the, you know...
you have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for this because Mike Johnson, that wasn't a given that that happened, but Marjorie announced a day before this ruling came down from Mike Johnson that Mike Johnson was going to do this. And I don't know to the extent to which that was definitely the case or not the case, but she sure maneuvered him into saying it. So Marjorie kind of left him with no option but to do this, which was a great public service and a great thing.
And it's right and it's proper that that should have happened. Nancy Mace has been great. She's like a mob wife, isn't she? She's like a sexy mob wife. Was she wearing like a mink yesterday? No, she came out in this white fur and I was, you know, my old gay Milo came out. I have to tell you, I have to tell you, she came out in this fur and I was like, yes, quit it.
Stop! You know... 50 lashes. No, actually, no, exactly. There's a hot oil on the thigh, yeah. That's my preferred punishment. You know, no... No idea. That's how I stopped having sex with men. Really? Yeah, yeah. You just fry up some oil and just a little drop on the thigh. It stings for days. You're just like, I really am not interested in anything else. It really hurts. So, no, it worked for me. So...
This is a wonderful thing, and you have Marjorie Taylor Greene to thank for it. Can I ask, okay, so thinking of this story and what you were saying earlier about a schizophrenic country, do you think the schizophrenia widens now in America after the election, or does it get better? I don't believe that the two-fact universes are reconcilable. Yeah, I agree. So I think that one of two things has to happen. I agree. Either the country splits in some sort of orderly breakup, or one of those sides has to die. Mm-hmm.
And we are now at a point at which it's a realistic prospect that one of those sides might be on the ropes. You think they're just going to phase themselves out? Well, so let me... It's not that. It's that you were talking earlier about, you know, Micah and Charlemagne the God, that fruity guy. And then, you know, all these other people who are sort of... Oh, and the...
Oleaginous, odious, uh, slug. Um, uh, what's his name on TN? Uh, um, um, Ryan Stelter. No, no, no, not Stelter. He sounds like a slug. No, no, no. You can sort of see him ripple as he talks on, on the young Turks. What's his name? Cenk? Yes. Cenk. Oh, yeah. Ripple. You know, you can tell people say, Oh, he left the left. People say, people say you can't judge a book by its cover. Give me a break. Um,
He's working with Doge now. He's working with him. But he wants to. These people suck. There's a very real prospect. And by the way, I did watch her show yesterday. And I can't share your praise for Anna Kasparian because she had plenty of opportunities to realize what was right.
And she only really changed her mind when it affected her personally. Agreed. And I don't think you get applauded for that. I'm sorry. I don't think you get a round of applause just because you got assaulted and then your friends weren't nice to you about it. And now you realize that maybe your friends are dicks. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm sorry. Hold on, hold on. I don't think you get an applause for that. Hold on. You're totally right about the assault. Everything. Let me finish here. You're totally right about the assault. You're right about the opinions when it comes to...
What was the other topic that she had a pro the the birthing person but she did look into the she looked into the Kyle Rittenhouse stuff on her own and she came to a different conclusion after she looks and looked into it how recently she's been at this for decades I understand but there are three opportunity the point that I'm making Milo is that she knew she went on air and she said lies and she knew she was wrong and she did it anyway and
And when did she finally break? When it affected her personally. - You're asserting that she knew. - That is no cause for applause. - You're asserting that she knew. - No cause for applause. And just because she saw the way that the wind was blowing, and just because she knew who was gonna win the election, because she's not completely insane. - I think you're- - Suddenly she has some Damascene experience, a road to Damascus. - I think that you're doing- - You're assuming too much. - I just realized
You're making too many assumptions about what she did or did not know, Milo. I'm sorry. You cannot afford everyone on the left. Okay, we get it. Now, do Micah and Joe Scarborough. Oh, gosh. Listen. They're much more atrocious than Anakin's. So Micah is like...
If you took like sort of three or four thousand, you can work out by body weight like how much Adderall will kill you.
If you took sort of like 20 milligrams less than that, and then you'd be Micah. And then there's this sort of podgy, you know, ghastly sort of soft... Matthew Perry's corpse. Yeah, soft featured, you know, sort of, oh God. Listen, these are weak people who are... Moral cowards. Moral cowards, but also...
The worst thing you can be in life is for sale.
And there are people who will say just about anything in order to stay on the right line of the censors or in order to keep their, you know, their whatever. And we all know this being in the right wing because we know Prager and we know Turning Point and we know, sorry, all your friends. I'm just kidding. The Daily Wire, we know because we know these people privately and we know how much better they are privately off air, you know. We know that, you know, there's things that they will not say on
error um and then the things that were not and that to me personally is the greatest sin you can commit really because because that for me is it it's tickling up to bearing false witness because lying in formal context it's like kind of lying in a broadcast you know about what you really believe you know for a monetary please the the and there's a distinction i think between for instance this show and people like that because like tim
I would describe, if someone asked me, as kind of center-right. And he plays between the lines in order to maintain a successful and a significant and a big presence, which is something that I wouldn't be able to do if I was him.
Well, I'm not trying to offend you, I'm trying to compliment you. No, no, no, but let me counter just that point. Okay, then let's talk about vaccines. Let's counter on this point. I'm teasing you. Because Destiny was lying about me claiming I pushed vaccine conspiracies. I know that. But look, my point is not to... If you get to the end, you're going to get a compliment. It's fine. My point is not to say you're wrong. My point is to say, if we went hard line in one direction, our viewership would be larger.
Maybe, but it's clear when you look at all of the biggest shows. Maybe, but it wouldn't be monetized. And that's my point. So the point is this, I respect what you do and I have always been grateful to you, for instance, for having me on when it wasn't always easy. For having me on when I
And you've done that with other guests too. And I think the way in which you demonstrate courage is having people on earlier than others do. And you've done it with me and I've always been grateful for it. Okay. I think that... So there was your compliment. You could have just waited for it. But...
But what other people do, which I find intolerable, is they present themselves as the bleeding edge of commentary or as the warriors on the front lines of whatever. And in fact, they are censoring 90% of what they say versus what happens here, which is like, all you have to do is kind of be a grownup. On this show, the worst that happens is you sort of have to be like,
talk like you would if there was a child in the room. Which is no great sacrifice, right? It's a big difference, you know? You gave us one of the best insults of all time, in fact, when before the show, it wasn't the last time you were on before that, I said, Milo, just keep it academic. Academic insults are funnier and they're acceptable. And so you wrote down no personal invective with a sad face. It's like,
But then you described Ron DeSantis as something off-putting, like when you reach for something but accidentally touch something moist, like a wet sponge. Yes, yes. And it was very good. Somebody asked me the other day about Ted Cruz, and I remarked something similar, which is that there's something amphibian about him, as though he sleeps underwater and lays eggs in the reeds. He's soggy. You know? As though he lays eggs in the reeds. I think if...
If Ted Cruz were to reproduce, it would be in the form of tadpoles. So you want him to play some awkward-- That's the kind of thing you want, isn't it? You're funnier. Well, some people say that. Some people like the C word. There are other shows for that. No, but I was trying to-- It's the members only show. We'll get there. I was trying to compliment you by saying that I think that you have a family friendly mainstream appeal show that can actually make you a living unlike the majority of most of us.
And you show your courage to the people you bring on, right? Which I think is great. What I can't stand is people who present themselves as these sort of brave warriors throwing themselves under the bus. I think the bravest thing you can do is to
Say something awful that shocks people, that blows open the fire doors, that opens the space up for others to follow because you create through that... The blood you spill becomes a kind of baptismal nectar that...
that that that um christens a generation of warriors behind you that's why kanye is so great let me let me and yeah and that's and that's why i loved working for him so much because because that's exactly what yay does exactly what kanye west does um and and we had you know we i think we had something of a meeting of the minds in that regard and and you know people respect that and they really appreciate that and um some some of your viewers may have noticed uh um a piece in the in the
Hollywood Reporter. I'm profiled as a print edition of the Hollywood Reporter, which is very nice. By the way, I have my Blaze band lifted as well. I must be really screwing up because I think I'm becoming socially acceptable again. I'm mainstream. No, no. I mean, five Blaze shows in a row. I'm like, what did I do? I'm sorry. Fox News next. No, no. Never.
When they call. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I had a profile on the Hollywood Journal, and some of you will know this, we were talking about it beforehand. I try to do things, I think I describe myself as a sort of Jack Bauer who has to be disavowed officially but gets the job done privately. And I was very happy to be called by a member of the Trump family on Twitter
election night to thank me for my work getting rid of... Let me pull this story up real quick so I can set it up. Sure, sure. So we have this story from The Hollywood Reporter. They say, the Milo Yiannopoulos makeover, the alt-right's fallen poster boy is back for Trump 2.0. Then the story... It's my Tim Pool era. It's a pro... I picked a heck of a picture of you, Milo. But they say this. I'm going to rebrand myself as Milo IRL. Let me read this for you. This is praise of Milo. Just before midnight on November 5th, Milo Yiannopoulos' phone rang.
On the horn from West Palm Beach, says a source familiar with the matter, was a member of Donald Trump's family. The caller would soon take the stage at Mar-a-Lago, beaming on stage alongside the president. God bless the USA, blasted across the room full of supporters. But first, they wanted to personally thank Milo for helping the campaign smear once useful idiots. Allies no longer wanted in Trump's orbit, he says. The call, if indeed it happened as described, which when Yiannopoulos is concerned, is never a given.
I mean, they're not wrong. They're not wrong. I mean, they're not wrong. You can go to the end. You can go to the end. And they mention that this was... They say... Do they say... Where do they mention this? Right at the very end...
If you keep going, it's a very long profile, a very long, lavish, loving profile. Is it the small... If you just keep going. I see here, it says, Yiannopoulos published what he purported to be Loomer's history of mental health issues, and poof, went her access to the present, elects inner circle. As slippery as Yiannopoulos can be, he can deliver. This is Tarantula's sales pitch, after all. And if the business takes off, expect to see such tactics multiplied by the number of clients on his roster, official or not. So what is the claim they're making that you did? Slippery is only because I'm so well moisturized.
No, so post Kanye, I have started a talent management agency to look after other difficult, mercurial stars. It's called Tarantula. I visited TR...
I've never really done this ever on a show before, but I'm going to be shameless this evening. By the way, no, trnt.la, you can go to Tarantula and you can see our extraordinary past client list, which I'm sure that Tim is going to be kind enough to throw up on screen, trnt.la. And...
And so we do a lot of talent management, but we also do what I would describe as retribution as a service. So it's like Norm Macdonald in Dirty Work? Yeah. So every appalling... That movie was awesome. Every appalling, underhanded, disgraceful, disgusting, and oh my gosh, how can a human being do this to another human being? That's me. The United Nations was a client?
Of my partner. So there's three general partners of the firm. Bianca Jacob is one of mine, believe it or not. So anyway, so we have our previous client list scrolling gracefully across the screen. XXX is dead. What happened there? Well, I was an advisor of his immediately before he died. Really? George and Laura Bush. Wow. That's my political partner.
William Jefferson Clinton. My political partner again. Wow. Yeah. So we have five presidents among the three of us that we have worked for, including the current one. Well, the one to be, I mean. And, you know, Azealia Banks and Kanye West and XXXTentacion when he was alive and I was in Florida helping. You know, that was sort of 2016-ish kind of period when he was becoming a bit of one of those. So I was working for him a little bit. So, yeah, I mean, I've had a – I worked for Bianca Jagger, believe it or not.
A bunch of other interesting people. Azalea Banks lasted about three weeks as a client. I'm shocked. Yeah, stunner. But so retribution as a service side of things is when a useful idiot has outlived their usefulness, for instance, Nick Fuentes or Laura Loomer, I will occasionally be called and offered vast sums of money to get rid of them. By who? That must remain a matter for me and the family. But retribution.
So one of those things is if you missed the beginning of this show, you'll have missed me brandishing the complete wit and wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes, lovingly compiled by mentor and role model Marlene Opliss. And this is my new book. It's out in the cup. Your book has some endorsements, you were saying. Oh, thank you for reminding me. Yes, so it's got some blurbs. I'm going to read the blurbs. First of all, I'll read you the back cover. So the back cover says...
Lovingly compiled over a decade by his role model, mentor and inspiration, Milo Yiannopoulos, this book is an exhaustive intellectual history of the America First movement, its wisdom and wit eloquently expressed in the words of its leader, Nick Fuentes. Complete and unabridged, this volume contains every brilliant thought Nick has ever expressed.
together with all of his best jokes. It's a perfect gift for the groiper in your life. The complete wit and wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes will be treasured by the whole family for years to come." You actually got these quotes from high profile people? Well, that's my blurb about my book. No, I know. But I'm going to read you now. I've got to do it on the phone. I'm terribly sorry for the... So here are the blurbs for the book. Tucker Carlson. "If you thought Dangerous was a page turner, you won't believe how fast you'll get through this."
Marjorie Taylor Greene, a perfect portrait of the mind of Nicholas Fuentes. Raw Egg Nationalist, the great Raw Egg Nationalist, says, left me feeling empty. And Laura Trump says, I have no words. So if you are interested, it'll be out in a couple of days, a couple of days on Amazon and everywhere else. I'm sorry it wasn't available today, but it'll be out soon. Lovely color, features a swanky notebook. Are you going to show us what's inside? Features a swanky notebook.
Well, I'd like to keep the contents, I think, for buyers, except to tell you one story, which is I set the record straight about that infamous dinner, that infamous dinner at Mar-a-Lago. So I do set the record straight about that infamous dinner at Mar-a-Lago. So you'll remember it because there was an ill-fated, although very highly viewed, I note, Timcast episode in which my old boss, Kanye West,
uh, unfortunately decided the interview was over quite early into the episode after Tim had been very generous and kind to us in all kinds of ways. And I was like, Oh no. Um, so, uh, please don't, please don't. But of course, you know, when you're working for somebody, you gotta, you know, you gotta, you gotta follow the boss out the door. So I, for which I apologize. Um, but, um,
So the dinner at Mar-a-Lago, if you recall that, where I sort of took credit for making the president's life difficult, I do set the record straight. And I would like to again now, which is that immediately after being canceled, immediately after losing Adidas and his bank canceled the rest of it, Ye hired me to rebuild his company. So I ran Yeezy for, you know, first as political director and then as chief of staff for two years.
It's a multi-billion dollar, multinational fashion and music brand. I was like, really? What, me, George? But I turned out to be good at it. I actually murdered it. He really didn't have any staff to speak of at all. I booked his ticket. He flew commercial. And his tickets were on my credit card because he didn't have a working credit card to go meet Donald Trump for dinner.
a dinner that was long planned and I couldn't make it and he took Nick Fuentes, unfortunately. And I thought, what am I gonna do? So I called a political operative in Florida who is very well connected, worked for five presidents, so on and so forth, called Karen Giorno to try to grease the wheels a little bit to sort of smooth it all over.
And so she picked them up at the airport. They went to the airport and the rest of it. And after that dinner had happened and the Nick Fuentes like thing had kind of blown up, Ye got a bit spooked about blowing his relationship up forever with Trump. So I kind of took the fall for it. I fell on my sword and I said, it was me. I was trying to like get back at Trump for like not recognizing me after the election. It was a very plausible lie because I did kind of feel like that. And I said, I took the rap for it. But the real story is that Ye asked me like,
what's going to really leave a dent? What's going to leave a mark? And I'm like, I don't know, take Frentis. That'll do it. So anyway, this poor woman, Karen Giorno, who I know is, she's basically the person you call in Florida if you want to get somebody who's not in the usual Mar-a-Lago circle.
into the circle and sort of smoothly move through that environment, right? So I called her and I said, "Could you pick up Kanye West at the airport and like drive him to dinner?" And I didn't tell her that Nick Fuentes was in the car. And so anyway, there's a lot more to that and I'll leave it for... Can I follow up with you something on there? Because it's sort of like in this quote, but first they wanted to personally thank Milo for helping with the campaign smear once useful idiots and no longer Trump allies.
Isn't it odd because it sounds like you brought Nick Fuentes to the dinner and you're taking care of a problem that you helped make for Trump. That's probably true. Although what they're taking out the garbage that you threw in my campaign. It was nice enough for them to call and say, thank you. But what they're really, what they're really talking about, what they're really talking about, you must really hate me. What they're really talking about was Laura Loomer. Laura Loomer. Laura Loomer. Why was she brought in? Of course, completely insane.
And Laura was brought on into the campaign by Jason Miller, who is that sort of frog-faced, useless bag of...
never mind. But Jason Miller has done nothing but make it more difficult for Trump to win since he was brought into the inner circle. But he's either got something on Trump or he brings money in. I don't know which one it is. Nobody does. But Jason Miller and Boris Epstein, who's the head of Trump's legal team, these are the two guys that were kind of like, oh yeah,
Laura Loomer, maybe Laura Loomer. And so she gets on the plane and then Laura Loomer claims to a bunch of people in Palm Beach, all of her friends around in Miami that she had performed. Family friendly. Huh? Monica Lewinsky. I was going to say a sex act. There you go.
She alleged this? She alleged to people she was spreading those rumors? Listen, I love you and I try to take care of you. Do you know how difficult it is for me to talk like this on your show? Do you know how hard this is? A members-only show? I'll say, we'll go off. Whatever it is. You know, it's been so long since I had sex. I did it the wrong way. I did it like that. I was just completely wrong. So...
No, she claimed that she had performed a sex act on the president to a lot of her friends. And this, I was like, okay, all right, okay.
So I got a call from somebody and they said we need to get rid of her. The president wants to get rid of her but he doesn't want to be the one to do it because she's crazy. So we don't want her turning on the president because so many people, so many followers and everything. So my job was to bring things about Laura to light that made her...
ineligible to be on the plane and around the President's Circle. So for instance, she's not Jewish. She made it up. A friend of mine was there when she did it. She ordered a Star of David necklace off the internet so that she could be ruder about Jews on stage at a rally in 2018. Laura Loomer isn't Jewish? She's not Jewish. She's the only person in history. Wait, so what's the... She's the only person in history. I submitted her for the Guinness Book of Records.
because she's the only person in history who's ever had a nose job to look more Jewish. It's the most amazing thing you've ever heard in your life. But I also... I've never heard that about her before. Well, she's not actually Jewish. And when she... She even ran for Congress and that never came up. Right. When she was... Well, that's because I was her communications director. But no, when... Maybe... It's not a great job. Sorry. I'm sorry.
It sounds like things went sour with Lauren. You guys have a lot of bad blood and you sank her as a result of that. Am I reading this right? People do pay me a lot of money to clean up my own messes. I'm just realizing this now. Anyway...
Anyway, so Laura is, when Laura was going to give a talk to the Republican Jewish Palm Beach Coalition or whatever it is, she drew what she thought was the Star of David on the folder she was holding her speech in, the speech I'd just written for her, except it
wasn't a Star of David, it was a pentagram. And I said, Laura, darling, can I have that photo back? And she's like, why? I'm on my way out. I've got a speech to give. I said, yeah, I know you've got a speech to give. I just wrote it. Can I just, can I just say, what, what, what? And I said, well, you've written it. She's like, yes, yes, it's a star. It's Jewish, Jewish. I'm going to speak Jewish. But it's,
"That's a pentagram." I said, "What do you mean it's a pentagram?" I said, "Well, that's the Satanism thing. That's five stars. The Jewish star has six stars." And I had to draw on a whiteboard the difference and ask her to copy it. And she couldn't like copy the two.
People will say, because there's no difference. But it couldn't copy. So this is the first clue. Thank you. This is the first clue I had something was wrong. Anyway, and the second thing that I released was that in addition to her... That's what Sankara Monk Trump... No, no. What really Sankara Monk Trump is he hates plastic surgery and he wondered why she looked so weird and when I...
When I told them it's because she'd had so many procedures, Trump is kind of like a bit repulsed by plastic surgery. That's the real thing that sunk her. But the other thing that I did that made her, that expelled her from the circle to the great applause and thanks of the campaign and his whole family was that I revealed the real reason she can't own a gun.
So Laura Loomis says that she can't own a gun or have an open carry license in California because the FBI is targeting her for being a conservative. But I have a letter from them, which I acquired,
which in fact says it's because her own father had her committed in what we in California call a 5150, a forcible psych hold, twice. And that's why she's not allowed to own a gun, because she's mental. And so the headline was, why can't Laura Loomer own a gun? I asked the FBI, comma, and her dad, Jeff. And I got her dad to like, I flipped her dad.
I do want to make sure we get to this story. No, I'm done. I'm done. We have about 10 minutes before Super Chat, so let's jump to the story from Newsweek. Chinese ship suspected of undersea cable sabotage detained in NATO lake.
This is where things get pretty crazy. So already, Europe is preparing for World War III, they say. They've mobilized 800,000 NATO troops. They're giving out pamphlets in some Baltic states saying, prepare for war, here's how you need to do it. Russia has, of course, updated their nuclear doctrine to lower the threshold. Then we saw two undersea cables severed.
We got a great call from one of our members last night who said, is this possibly a precursor to a larger escalation of war? Because destruction of communications tends to be the first move. Now they have detained a Chinese vessel, which let's hope it's not the case, could implicate China involving them in a greater conflict.
Newsweek says a Chinese vessel has been implicated in what has been described as the sabotage of undersea telecom cables in the Baltic Sea. International concerns surround the cutting of the 730-mile Sea Lion 1 cable connecting Finland and Germany and the 130-mile link between Sweden and Lithuania on Monday.
German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius described the incidents as hybrid actions, while the Swedish and Lithuanian counterparts said they were deeply concerned. Is it okay if I go for a tinkle? It is absolutely okay. Because I don't care at all about this. Well, all right. Excuse me. Then I'll ask Eilat. World War III. Fortunately... Don't close the door. Okay, good. I believe, fortunately... He closed the door. Ha ha!
You were saying? I don't think so. Not in the near term. I think a lot of people, Putin's holding off on making any moves until Trump gets into office. But no, I think there's just some asymmetric sort of warfare that we will have a tough time giving a like-kind response against. I don't think we're going to go inside and start damaging cables. What other weird thing happened? But I mean, if China is involved in assisting Russia with severing or destroying communications,
It has huge implications. But it's one of those. It very well may be a Chinese ship dragging an anchor, I guess, is what their argument was. I hope that's the case, but I'm not convinced. So I'm I'm actually more concerned with the change in in Russia's nuclear policy than than with this communication thing, because it is this is possibly an accident, possibly, you know, some something that.
wasn't intentional. Whereas the official change in Russia's nuclear policy, that is specifically in response to Ukraine using U.S.-made weapons, likely using U.S. intelligence to help the strike. These are very accurate weapons, so it's possibly also the U.S. helping select targets and
In any other context, if it were a context where someone did this to the United States, it would 100% be looked at as the country that the attack came from and where the weapons came from. It would be considered an act of war. I was listening to
Glenn Greenwald and Tucker Carlson on the way in today and they were talking about how the politics in Russia are very different from here and that Putin if he doesn't that he has to remain he has to look a certain way to the Russian people like
Russians and Americans are not the same people. The culture is very different. And the politics are also very different. As much as Putin does have a pretty solid grip on the country, there is a possibility of him being overthrown. There's a possibility of him being killed, just like he likely tossed that dancer out of a building today. It was from a roof. I'm sorry, not today. A couple days ago or whatever. So, I mean...
That kind of politics is a real thing, and Putin's not insulated from that entirely. It's less likely that he's going to be targeted, but it's possible that he could be killed. So he could end up being in a situation where if he looks weak... He has to continue the war. Yeah, if he looks weak, then he could get off. So if that's the case...
I mean, he might be in a position where he has to escalate the war, you know, especially if there's more than one strike. This strike may be able to be overlooked, but not continued. You don't think potential Chinese involvement is substantially more worrying? What a lovely toilet. Of course. It's great, right? You've got the most remarkable latrine. Sam Seder broke it.
And I'm not trying to rag the guy. It doesn't surprise me. He said on the show, and I was surprised he brought it up, and I was like, he said, sorry about your toilet, and I was like, okay. No, I've got to tell you, this is, I mean...
I live in a 22-room travertine marble mansion in Los Angeles. It belongs to a friend of mine. And it's pink marble, and it's very finely appointed. But we don't have a toilet as nice as... It is, it is, it is. It's marvellous, but we don't have a toilet as nice as yours.
It was like a couple hundred bucks. Tim, I think the thing here is plausible deniability that's coming from the Chinese. So they could say, hey, we used an anchor to do it. And then same with hitting boats in the Philippines. We didn't do this on purpose. I get it. My point for Phil was I understand what you were saying about Putin and all that stuff. My concern is if there's insinuated or evidential
Chinese involvement in conflict in Eastern Europe, we're overnight, it's gradually then suddenly, boom, World War III. Absolutely. And to be honest with you, if there is going to be any kind of kinetic conflict
kinetic action, it is likely to be in the interim before President Trump is inaugurated. There's a pattern of sabotage in the Baltic Sea because this is the same place as the Nord Stream pipeline. Yeah, if the Nord Stream didn't get us into World War III, I don't know about some cables. Yeah, but Germany accused Ukraine of doing that.
Yeah, and I think there was evidence that eventually came out that... It was some Ukrainian guy who blew up Nord Stream 2. Likely with U.S. involvement. I doubt they could do it without U.S. involvement. Germany accused a Ukrainian guy of blowing up Nord Stream 2. And so when that happened, I was shocked and I said...
This country is an enemy of the United States. They're actively trying to drag us into World War III, bombing a pipeline to our major allies in Europe. The left removed that context and says Tim Pool called Ukraine an enemy. And I'm like, yeah, why don't you include the part where Germany has accused them of bombing the gas pipeline that's supplying fuel to Western Europe? Right.
That's not an act of allyship for the United States. That's blowing up our energy resources. To make the argument, I do think it was within the American interest to not have a pipeline going from Russia to Germany. Because that allows their leverage, by the way. So your argument is that NATO, that the United States violated NATO. You're saying that the United States...
interacted in it with subterfuge to damage nato nations that we are allied with i think the united states definitely had knowledge the reason why this war started is in part because russia and many europe germany and so many europeans are dependent on russian oil trump has actually talked about this when he was president in the past and now the fruits are coming to bear leverage that russia holds over the europeans is all through gas and um that's why they're less likely to get involved but but
the issue is the U.S. has been trying to offset Russian gas supply into Europe to lower the costs. Destroying a pipeline increases how much Russia can charge through gas problems through the Ukrainian pipelines. So bombing of Nord Stream 2 helped Russia...
like maintain control and it created a higher priority and more important on the existing gas lines they already control. I think it forces Russians to now sell oil and pennies on the dollar to the Chinese now because they are unable to export as much oil and gas to the Europeans. That's what we want to force them to do. Why would they have to sell pennies on the dollar? Now this means that they have been to China. I know because they have to make money and they're under sanctions.
But Germany is going to have a harder time pulling in natural gas now with Nord Stream getting bombed. And Russia is going to say, we're 20 percent of the supply. You got to pay. I understand they're both consequences for Germany deciding to make their gas and oil reliance on Russia.
Totally their fault, and they're dealing with the consequences of poor political decisions at their top echelon from a decade ago. Sounds like your view is, I'm not saying you're wrong, is that Germany is a vassal of the United States. They're an ally. They're under our domain. They're not an ally if we're bombing their energy sources. If you think the United States directed a Ukrainian bomb... Germany has aspired for some time to occupy the position, uh,
And I think it's an unbreakable partnership like blacks in the Democrat Party between the UK and the US. And Germany has sometimes sought to occupy that position, never made much progress there. But it's certainly true that they have wished that they had that relationship.
But but and again, I'm not saying you're wrong. It would be that these European states are basically vassals of the United States. And I'm not saying it's wrong. It's actually probably I think it's part of a larger partnership. Well, I mean, look, anything that any any NATO member to some degree is is could be considered a vassal of the United States because the United States is funding their defense at the very right. Right. Right. But, you know, the U.S. is the state. I mean, like you act out of line and we blow up your gas pipelines.
That's every country on the planet Earth is there for, a vassal state. You stand in the bottom line and we're blowing you up. You're true with that, but if they are acting underneath the orders and instructions of NATO and the United States...
And then if they get out of line, we bomb them. That treaty signifies that they are a subjugated nation. Most of our allies are the junior partners. To be fair, we've occupied Germany since World War II. We liberated. Yes, liberated. Liberated Germany. There are theories that NATO was behind the 20 years of... Eisenhower really liberated, but millions of Germans he murdered.
Uh, yeah, I think we did liberate all of Europe and the reason why we shouldn't pull back on that allyship that we have with them is because we don't want to have to come and rescue Europe again in another 40 years when they screw everything up between their balance of power. Yeah, definitely Europe where the problems are right now. Well, so, uh, we gonna wake up to World War III or what's gonna happen? No, everybody's holding off till Trump gets in at least and then things will be calmer. Yeah, they'll suck it up even if Biden kills, you know, a bunch of people he shouldn't. They'll suck it up because they know Trump's coming in and they know there's no point
There's a fear, though, that the current administration, I wouldn't call it Biden, is trying to escalate things to make it impossible for Trump to de-escalate. Lincoln hates Russia. It's never going to be impossible for Trump to de-escalate, okay? Trump is a generationally historic figure who perhaps there hasn't been somebody, I don't think there's been anybody since maybe even Lincoln.
who has so completely and entirely embodied what it means to be America, whose fate is entwined with America's. Teddy Roosevelt? Who has become... Come on now. Modern day neocon. That's what they'd call him. If Teddy Roosevelt was around right now, they'd call him a neocon. But think about the manner in which Trump's fate is entwined with America's. He didn't just say, I feel your pain to his voters. He took most of it on. He shouldered it.
by bearing the brunt of the attacks from the left, by getting all of the lawfare, by becoming the... Trump is a shorthand for everything that the Democrats hate about Republican voters, right? An avatar. Exactly. About America. Exactly. And Trump became... And this is what I was trying to get at when I was on last time and we were talking about DeSantis and Trump, okay? And I was proven so spectacularly correct because Trump is now indistinguishable from America, right?
And what was so brilliant about his stint at McDonald's was that it combined the eccentricity that you expect from an avuncular figure. Because he's gone from daddy that he was in 2016...
to more like pater patriae, which is father of the nation, more like an avuncular kind of- - Mythological. - Yes, exactly. Trump has become mythological. You read my tweet, didn't you? Trump has become something greater than just an elected official. He's become a stand-in for what it means to be America.
And so he's going to be like, he's a part of Americana now. Exactly. And, you know, when he does this McDonald's thing and you have the little, you have the eccentricities like untouched by human hands, because that's, of course, what he worries about because he's like a germaphobe, whatever. But he's also there. He's there as the, you know, America, that's how America, that's how everybody sees America is powerful,
Slightly ridiculous, but awesome. That's pretty much how everyone sees America. Strong, a bit silly, but ultimately pretty great. Or at least that's the best version of America. The best version of America that's ever been... And now we're getting a little bit back to that.
There's no world leader. I mean, no one is going to war with the guy that walked across the demilitarized zone and shook hands with Kim Jong-un. Nobody is going to war with the guy that Putin fears because he knows that Trump will push the button, right? Nobody's going to war with Trump. Nobody. And that means that nobody's going to go to war with a president-elect Trump either. I don't think it's going to happen. This is what I like about Trump. Don't believe it. There's...
You know, I was talking about a business deal I was in about seven or eight years ago. And what's traditional in the industry is they say... Is it with Russia? No. I'm just kidding. It's with a New York-based network. I'm joking. And...
The way they say that these typical deals work is, and you know this probably in Hollywood, they give you a contract, they call it boilerplate. It stabs a knife in your back, and you've got to hire a lawyer to go through it and rip out all the evil. And it's not just that, but there's a hierarchy of knives waiting to stab you in the back at every moment. So if you dodge this one, the other one gets you. So I go into this meeting. They say, here's what we want to do. It's fantastic. We'll email you the contract. I say, sounds good. I look at it. I read it. I laugh. And I say, are you nuts?
And then I respond to the email saying, I appreciate it, but this contract is not serious. It hands over IP. It hands over ownership. That's a ridiculous thing for you to have asked me for and amend it.
They said, "Send it to your lawyers, redline it, and send it back." I responded with, "If you think you're going to put a $5,000 legal bill on me to try and do a business deal, I will not be entering business with someone like you." And I said kindly, "F off." But this is what everyone else has done. I mean, look at the Wilkes Brothers system, okay? But right, my point is simply this, sorry, just to finish.
This is what I like about Trump so much. And when you say he would push the button, there are very few people that I've met that I respect who would be willing to say, I will, I will, I will, I will crash my own car before I would ever bend my knee to you. Donald Trump is the guy who says to Putin, I will nuke you before I let you win. And Putin's like, he might. Yeah. So this is called the Madman Doctrine. And the Madman Doctrine was, uh,
Most notably deployed by Nixon. Okay? And Nixon's thought was, if I make people think that I'm crazy and I'll do pretty much anything, people will be too afraid to start SHI, you know what. And he was right about that. And it was very effective. Madman theory or the Madman doctrine is why Trump behaves like he does, which a lot of his critics don't understand, which is if you think, and I guess I'm a student of this too. If you think somebody will do literally anything,
You cannot predict how they will retaliate. And for the slightest of perceived insults, they might retaliate with massive, brutal punishment, which is typically how I like to operate. You just don't go there. It's not worth it. There's no point risking that. But to your point about the contracts, interesting thing happening in media at the moment. All of the people who took those deals are beginning to fall and fade. Nobody talks about Ben Shapiro anymore.
Candace Owens has gone completely crazy. All of those big... The people who took advantage of the censored and the cancelled in 2017, who kind of, you might say, stole our audiences. Those guys, you know, the Wilkes Brothers and the, you know, whatever...
So the Wilkes Brothers are Texan billionaires who have funded most of the worst people in conservative media. You know, the sort of people who are rabid Zionists, even by Republican standards. Drop some names. Well, I just did. You know, The Daily Wire, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro. What do you think's crazy about Candace Owens? Rabid Zionist, I mean.
Well, she's gone the opposite way now because she's left and because she was... It's a bit more complicated. I'll get to that. So she started off that way. She's a creation of the Daily Wire, okay? And she started off as Zionist, all right? That's when they were funding her. Now they're not. You understand the difference? Okay. But you called her crazy. So what is she crazy about now?
Well, because she's gone off the board into conspiracy theory because she no longer has a producer and she starts to make her own decisions, which is always a mistake for somebody who's never read a book. Fact check true. Candice. No, she's never forgiven me because I roasted her in front of many of, well, actually all of the richest Jews in Palm Beach. We do got to go to super chats. I'll be quick. The thing that's happening in media that's interesting, I think, is that... Interruption. Interruption.
All of the people who took those kinds of deals are falling or fading, right? The people who gave their IP, gave their whatever. So if you think of it like this, you have the Mercer ecosystem, which is Bannon, Breitbart, me, Tucker, and Trump. And then you have the Wilkes Brothers ecosystem, which is the Daily Wire and all of the kind of like hyper Zionist Prager, right?
Those people are all kind of like faltering at the moment, the people who took those kinds of deals and the people who didn't are starting to like spark up a little bit. And in this, and as we're, you know, to,
The reason Candace is in the trouble she's in is she got lured out of the safe environments of the Daily Wire, independent, and then lured into a variety of crazy positions by Nick Fuentes, who told her, we got you. I'm going to give you access to my gigantic audience. And it turned out there was no gigantic audience because he's botted to buggery.
Just like all of the other Wilkes Brothers entities, they fake it till they make it. Ben Shapiro did this. She did this. Nick Fenton is attempting to do it just without the money, which is going to be a very, very nasty end for him. But she's been lured out of this. Point being this.
there's an opening now. There is a huge market opportunity now for people who said no. And I did the same thing. I was brought into WME and they gave me the same offer they gave you. And I said, no. There's a huge market opportunity now as all of those people who astroturfed their way to supposed fame to like number one podcasts, none of their listeners are real.
None of their advertisers are not getting what they paid for. The listeners aren't real. The viewers aren't real.
The book purchasers aren't real. All their books are. So if you, I don't know if you know this, but when you, when you write a book, so the books that I write are like actually popular for, for, for, you know, for politicians and whatnot. If you are an unpopular person, you can pay about $500,000 to a firm that will buy your loads of copies of your book in various different places to game the, the, the New York times algorithm to make you a New York times bestselling author. It costs about half a million on a good week, a million if there's another good book out.
All the people who did this, who have burned through millions, are now all kind of like fading out of the conversation. So there's a big moment happening. The reason I'm making such a big deal out of this, talking about this for so long, is right now is the moment. If you are an up-and-coming or an enthusiastic person,
conservative podcaster or a wannabe host or you want to be somebody like Tim or you want to be somebody like whatever, now is the moment because there is a huge widening of the market at this exact point in time with Trump's election and with the fall and fade of all of the previous gatekeepers and kingpins. There is a massive opportunity right now and a huge empty space, a massive open playing field for you to just take it by a sure
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Timcast.com, separate website. You click join us or sign up. You become a member, $10 a month. And then we're going to have that members-only show on the front page of the site. You'll see it in a little window. It'll say uncensored, 10 p.m. Let's grab some Super Chats. Before we do that, where did you get this from, this shearling denim thing? Ralph Lauren. All right, Super Chats. Oh, dear. So the first Super Chat is wonderful. It says, from Cricket Smile, Asterion from Baldur's Gate 3 is on Timcast tonight. So why don't I just...
Let's see if I can pull up anything from Astarion. Have you seen any of this? Yes, the developer who sent me it. I think he says darling a lot. He certainly does. Let's see if we can get some interaction. I heard it in the first syllable.
Our bodies react. They had this guy listen to you speak. There's no other way. A vampire spawn.
Oh man, here we go. Come on. I don't care about you. I don't want to hear this person talk. I want to hear, uh, here we go. No. No, no, no.
they could have just hired me to do it they could have that would have been the proper thing to do let's see what we got here what is this what is it oh come on tick tock your sacrifice i'd suggest virgins young the sacrifice i suggest these are awful like is there no youtube video with just it's like you just the best stuff the lightest bit i've been already know about us i'm the most powerful vampire in the realms
I don't know why. I just think it's adorable. I'm the most powerful vampire in the realms. Yeah, okay. All right. I get it. I hear it. All right. Okay. Let's grab some more. Let's see what we got. Let's see. Bastards. Cryptic Coil says, Milo, there's a character yet on American Horror Story that reminds me of you. Myrtle Snow. She's in season three and eight. Which one's Myrtle Snow? I don't know.
The one that reminds me of me is the Nurse in Grotesquerie on FX at the moment. If anyone's seen that. I will stress, you know, I get Baldur's Gate 3, like right when it comes out, download it, I play it within a few minutes.
You meet a starian and I was like, holy crap, I'm texting people being like, dude, are you seeing this? No, they told me. They told me. Like, they modeled this character after you. Many such cases. You know, I don't like to toot my own horn, as anybody who knows me will tell you. But, you know, there's plenty of legends. There's only one icon.
Okay, so Mark Giudetti says, Tim, you are so wrong tonight. Sodom and Gomorrah are the Old Testament, which is the Jewish Torah. Stop being a know-it-all when you don't. Christians don't have any of the Old Testament, huh? I think the Old Testament has more than the Torah.
So the... I am correct. You are wrong. Blackstone's formulation was rooted in the teachings of Sodom and Gomorrah, and if there's but one righteous person, that is true. Read. Read it. That's a fact. It doesn't mean anything beyond that. I'm not a Christian. But that's what the basis of...
It is better that 10 guilty persons go free than one that doesn't suffer. What's good about you, Tim, and what I appreciate about you, is that even though that you have not yet, or maybe never will reach that point in a... I was Christian when I was younger. ...a faith journey, you nonetheless recognize that the, let's say, you know, that the principles that the faith inspires in people, that the context of Christianity, the moral framework...
is what makes society functioning, stable, prosperous, healthy. And it's what America was based on. And a lot of people who don't have that personal kind of faith will try. I mean, I remember very vividly Joe Rogan in 2017, like bucking against this when I said it. And at least you do recognize that what makes your country great is at least in part
is Christian moral ethics, even if you can't quite get yourself there. And I respect that about you. - There's the IQ bell curve meme of the guy whose eyes are on the side of his head and he says God is real. Then there's the monk who's very intelligent and says God is real. And there's the guy in the middle crying saying there's no God. - Absolutely. - And so there is a challenge in, you know, when I've talked to people who are Christian,
And they don't quite know the logic behind the Ten Commandments and why they are functional and important for society to make sense. It's because you live in a country where everyone's retarded. But I will say this. If you talk to a well-educated European Catholic, you'll be like,
"Oh my God, every science just like springs out of this." - You know, like you just need better friends. - Right, my point is it is better that people follow these things even if they don't understand why, than they don't follow them at all. - Of course, we do it with everything else. Why not with that? - But we did this on the show a couple of years ago with Seamus. We went through the 10 commandments as from, and I said,
take this outside of the context of religion and logically apply them and discuss why these things make sense. Honor your father and mother makes complete sense. Without the family structure, societies collapse. Don't murder. Duh. Societies collapse. And even as simply put as have no gods before me. If you are following other laws that can lead to destruction, that will lead to societal collapse. Which is the basis also of religious freedom being restricted to Christianity. Because look,
Christianity is congruent and compatible with the Bill of Rights. Other religions aren't. The Bill of Rights are based upon. Exactly. Because you cannot have complete freedom from consequence saying whatever you want, however you want, whenever you want, with no consequence, with Judaism or with Islam. It doesn't work. Let's read some more Super Chats.
What do we got here? Jason Hutton says, Holy Milo. Ian dialed Beyond Eleven. Much love to you all and appreciate the discourse and enlightenment. Well, there you go. Ian. He's not here. I know. I'm greatly aggrieved by that. I'm wounded by it. But when we get to the members show, if you haven't signed up, go do it right now because I got some stuff to say about yesterday. All right. Sopian Nygma says, Elad, how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday? What?
I'm not sure how it would feel. Is this one of those dumb jokes? They're calling you a stupid black person. I guess I'm not online. There's no racial component to it. Yeah, there is. It's an IQ thing. Basically, this was a 4chan meme that began with a court case involving a black defendant who was asked,
How would you have felt if you did such and such? Well, I did do such and such. Yeah, but how would you have felt? He wasn't able to understand hypotheticals. He wasn't able to understand... Conditional hypotheticals was... Yes. It's sort of a sub-ATIQ thing, so that's what that was. Well, no, he answered correctly. He said, I don't know how I would have felt. Yes, he surprised us all. Yeah.
He's got fighting words for you, Alan. We'll have fun in the members' session. Milo comes from somewhere. He comes from a Muslim country. For him to pretend he's coming here and saving our country is just so funny and rich. Save it for the members-only segment before it gets too funny. Too funny. All right, what do we have? We'll grab some more. I'm scrolling down here, and we're getting the—here we go. The line says, Jefferson was a deist—
He compiled his own New Testament, which stripped the divinity from the Yeshua story, but still recognized the movement derived thereof, and good and moral, a lot wrong as usual. And I think there was only a couple that were considered deist and overwhelmingly Christian. And so the context about, like, why didn't they write that we're Christians? And it's like, why don't the fish—it's the fish in the water. Why don't fish say they live in the ocean? Yeah.
Why didn't they say it explicitly? Because they didn't intend for it to be explicitly a Christian nation. They didn't write it anywhere. It's like listening to Ian talk about fractals. I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. Look, Elad, first, I just gotta say. We love Ian. We love Ian. We love Ian, but if there's any way it needs to go in the crystals, it's gotta be the guy that has, you know, the biggest collection of them, surely. Considering, let me just say, on this point, I am not, I have not read all of Federer's papers. I have read letters. I have read
some of the writings, specifically essays and theories of the founding fathers. And it is fairly explicit. If you have not done any of these things... Can you pull one up of the Federalist Papers where you think it's explicit then? Maybe we'll do it in the after show. I'm just saying this. I've never met anybody who conjures in my mind...
more vividly than you do the vision of a shelf of uncracked spines. - Okay. - Of a vast library that's never been-- - Hold on, hold on. - Never been expressing to you guys, trying to explain how-- - The uncracked spine. - If you know you have not read any of these things,
Then you should be careful to assert with fact. Okay, I've done enough research into our founding documents, and I think it's abundantly clear. All right, well, we'll do it in the after show. And just for the record, there is a consensus on this issue of whether or not people believe that the country and the founders believed for it to be a Christian nation or not. This is like a Democrat saying you can't own a cannon.
It's like, well, it doesn't say you can't have a cannon, but the founding fathers owned cannons. They had privateers. They were corsairs. I'm excited for you to pull up Christianity in the Federalist Papers. I don't love the First and Second Amendment without a sort of Christian requirement to it, but there is a part of me having lived here for so long, and I did do that British thing of like, I'm in a truck, and this is awesome. All right, let me read some more. I do feel if you can afford a surface-to-air missile, you should probably be allowed to have one. And if I've got $20 million to buy one, I probably should be able to have one.
And there are private corporations that manufacture these things. And they have a writ from the government, like there was one writ to the market reprisals. All right, Patriot Tax says, as an Anglican, yes, America was founded as a Christian nation. England is also a Christian nation. I pray she realizes it soon before she's conquered by Islam. Ah, England. England needs a Trump of their own.
We are all mourning for the England of years gone by, and there's no shame and no point denying that, no other thing to say about it. I think England made a – you know, the greatest mistake, the greatest geopolitical mistake of the last hundred years is not keeping India close.
because India has been forced through neglect and abuse and negligence to line up with India, with China, all the rest of it. When India is in some respects the guardian, the custodian of all of the best things of Britain, right? Whether it's education or manners or language, I mean, educated Indians speak better English than the English do.
And the great tragedy for me geopolitically of the last hundred years is that we allowed India to wander off through neglect and through not looking after our friends or through maybe through shame for colonialism, which is of course ridiculous. And forge alliances they should never have had to, have been forced to. India had no choice. And it's largely because the US sided with Pakistan in certain circumstances. Again, remarkably stupid. You
You're going to like this next Super Chat, so I just want to try and get this in. All right. Fatboy says,
Well, then you have to answer the question of why in all of the other founding documents they say the inalienable rights come from God. And I think it's important to point out, Milo already made this point in the show, that the concern was not that this country would not be religious, but that there were different factions of Christianity that, if you take a look at Ireland, people are not too fond of each other over there. It's not unique to Christianity. Monotheism is not unique to Christianity. So God, it still doesn't...
have any contradictions. He's right, they should have wrote Yahweh or something. No, they should have wrote Christianity. They should have mentioned Jesus explicitly if they believed it, and they didn't for a reason. If we want to read into it like that. You're lucky they didn't. Why am I lucky they didn't, Milo? The practical reality. Why? Because you wouldn't be eligible for it. I think that's why they explicitly didn't, Milo. That's why we founded the Church of Christ. Let's move on. The practical reality of the 18th century.
was that they were casting off what as they perceived the shackles of the father country and that the British monarch was the head of the Anglican church. So there was no choice but to invent a new one which we now know is the Episcopalian church and to allow for other people who had different Protestant, different
as I would put it, different varieties of heresy, different varieties of Protestantism. So they didn't war with each other. And it is that simple. And it is not a controversial thing among any historian or academic. Jonathan Foreman says, Tim, we need Ian Moonlord, Lord Moonbeam versus Milo Chaos God in a debate on anything.
You know, I was slightly sad not to see Ian here, but just because I enjoy being cruel. But I felt I gave him enough the last time. But if there is, I'll repeat because I think somebody was talking over me, but if there's anybody that deserves to go in the crystals, it's surely the guy that owns more of them than anybody I know. Ian has got to go in the crystals. Jaded Soul says, Milo, my aunt loves you. She greatly enjoyed your book, Dangerous. Can you give Tara a birthday shout out?
Tara, happy birthday. I'm sorry you're old. As somebody who just turned 40, I now too am dealing with the vicissitudes and horrors of old age. I've started to get charley horses in the morning. The real reason for this beanie is I'm losing my hair. No, no, I've been bleaching it for so... No, it's not. It was a tribute to you. It was a tribute to you after Joe stole my look.
I have always taken the view that birthdays should be for other people. And so if you are celebrating your birthday today, take a little moment in between opening gifts from others to remember to do something really lovely for somebody else. Because birthdays are nice to be celebrated. And I go through my whole life being celebrated, of course, because I'm wonderful.
But on my birthday, I try to take a break from that and to do something lovely for others. And so happy birthday, but in the hours that remain, take a little moment to do something kind for somebody who's not expecting it from you. All right, we got two here that are just for Milo. The first one is...
Oh, there you go.
I doubt Milo realizes he's wrong. No, I had to give you both the Milo is the best and Milo is the worst at the same time. I can't comment on the second super chat having never been wrong. But I will say if you want to hear me sing, albums are available.
Bad romance. I do want to do a Christmas album. I've always wanted to do like a big band Christmas album. Sounds fun. Maybe you could do a sort of emo thrash bonus track or something. But I've always wanted to do a Christmas album. We'll talk about it afterwards. All right. YouTube's on the fritz again. Carl Smith says, Milo, in the immortal words of Mr. Rogers, the one thing that evil cannot stand is forgiveness. I think that is the quote at least. Yes. And, you know, something that has been...
Really, you know, look, I'm paid a lot of money by all kinds of people whose names I can't mention because, you know, they're not supposed to know me to do
in some cases, quite awful things to people. But the thing that hurts your enemies the most is to tell them that you love them, that you forgive them, and that you wish the best for them, that you are praying for them, and that you want them to be better than they are. And I try to, I've always tried to take that kind of, it's not really a speck really, more of a huge shard
of dark flint in my heart that enjoys Schadenfreude and all the rest of it. And I've tried to channel it for good. I've not always succeeded. I've not always done a perfect job of this, but I'm getting better at it. And I try to use that ability
a bit of me that I don't always love so much for good. And so, you know, I've learned through my occasional churlishness and cruelty that nothing hurts somebody who kind of knows that they're doing wrong and kind of knows that they're screwing up.
like you're telling them, that you forgive them and that you love them and that you hope that they see the light and that they come home to the Lord and that they come home to the truth. And honestly, it's the greatest lesson I've learned in the last 10 years. I agree. And so I've told this story before that I tip bad servers very well.
Oh, I don't tip at all. Oh, I tip bad servers. I don't believe in rewarding failure. No, but I... Well... If you're a server over the age of, you know, 19, I mean... So, my point... I mean, come on. It's a bit like taxation. All right, well, we're going to go to the members. It's like taxation. It's like taxation, isn't it? Why would you... What's wrong? What's wrong with taking from the poor to give to the rich? Poor people are terrible with money. If they weren't terrible with money...
They wouldn't be poor. I really don't understand this. Why would you tip so? Margaret Thatcher said, if you get the bus to work after the age of 30, you have failed as a man. You've failed as a human being. I mean, my gosh. So the best taxation is regressive taxation.
which taxes the poor at 20% and tapers down. So if you're earning over a million dollars a year, you pay nothing, nothing. All right. Anyway, thanks for hanging out, everybody. Rewards the people who do good in society, who create the jobs and punishes the people who don't get out of bed in the morning. So my point is when someone's being rude, crass or lazy or indifferent, when you leave them a good tip, they feel guilt.
But I digress. We're going to go to the numbers. No, they don't. They just think you're a mug. It's like that white boy just lent me 50 bucks. You were wrong. No, stop. No, you look them in the eyes. All right, everybody, smash that like button. Look them in the eyes and you say, like I did. On X and Instagram at Timcast. Head over to Timcast.com right now. Hate it. Go to Timcast.com. Click join us. Become a member because we're going to complain about religion. Oh, I'm going to let you know about tipping.
In just a few minutes. Milo, where can they find you? Just a few minutes. Well, in a couple of days, just a couple of short days, you'll be able to order on Amazon and all good bookstores, The Wit and Wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes. I couldn't be more thrilled about this stocking stuffer for Christmas. It's been endorsed by everybody you love. And this really, like I said, you know, I don't want to give away too much, but, you know, this is just, it's amazing.
This book is probably my best book. And it's a very exciting thing for me. It's a very emotional moment for me to publish it because, of course, this person started as a mentee of mine and then in the end sort of went dark. You'll never know the pain. You'll never know the pain of waking up at 3 a.m. in a cold sweat and realizing you're responsible, not just for Nick Fuentes, but for Lady Marga too. But I feel I've redeemed myself. I feel I've been on a redemptive arc. So look,
If you want to find me, look up on Amazon. You'll find this wonderful book in a couple of days. And in the meantime, I have been restored. I've been restored to Twitter. You can find me at Nero on Twitter, which is the Christian N-word. We're reclaiming it. Because, of course, you know, there's a great emperor who...
All right. I can say the real word in the after show. Nero is the Christian N-word. So I'm reclaiming it. I'm reclaiming it for the press. We got to go. We got to go. Elad, where can they find you? Elad Eliyahu. I'm a journalist here at Timcast. You can find me across all platforms. The Wit and Wisdom of Nicholas J. Fuentes. I'm assuming it's a blank book. Good luck with that bestseller. What's up, Shane? What up? Shane Cashman everywhere online. Virta World live every Sunday at 6 o'clock. Thank you for joining us. Thanks, Milo, for being here. Phil.
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