"Inside the Tent" with The Michigan Plot hosts Ken Bensinger & Jessica Garrison
2024/10/16
Chameleon: Dr. Miracle
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Jessica Garrison：报道初期面临技术和协调挑战，后通过对俄亥俄州德鲁里酒店会议的调查，以及2021年3月为期三天的听证会，逐渐揭示了案件的复杂性和政府线人的重要作用。她认为案件的核心问题在于被告人的行为是否构成犯罪，这是一个具有争议性的问题，部分原因在于陪审团对证据的解读存在差异。她还强调了政府行为的质疑，即政府是否过度干预，以及在维护国家安全与保护个人权利之间如何取得平衡。
Ken Bensinger：最初认为这是一起严重的右翼暴力事件，后逐渐意识到案件的复杂性和细微之处，特别是政府线人的作用。他认为即使被告人并非好人，他们仍然应该受到公正的对待。他强调了政府权力与个人权利之间的平衡问题，以及政府机构内部的职业动力如何影响案件的处理。他认为窃听录音对播客的制作至关重要，它使得播客能够更生动地呈现故事本身，并通过一些细节，例如被告人在路上的谈话和歌曲，来塑造人物形象，并使播客内容更具吸引力。
Josh Dean：作为播客制作人，他强调了团队合作在播客制作中的重要性，以及如何将复杂的新闻事件转化为引人入胜的音频故事。他赞扬了制作团队的专业性和创造性，以及他们对故事的贡献。
Jessica Garrison: Initially faced technical and coordination challenges in reporting, later through the investigation of the Drury Inn meeting in Ohio and the three-day hearing in March 2021, gradually revealed the complexity of the case and the important role of government informants. She believes that the core issue of the case is whether the defendants' actions constitute a crime, which is a controversial issue, partly because of the differences in the jury's interpretation of the evidence. She also highlighted questions about government actions, namely whether the government overstepped and how to balance national security and the protection of individual rights.
Ken Bensinger: Initially believed it was a serious case of right-wing violence, later gradually realized the complexity and nuances of the case, especially the role of government informants. He believes that even if the defendants are not good people, they should still be treated fairly. He emphasized the balance between government power and individual rights, and how career motivations within government agencies can affect the handling of cases. He believes that wiretap recordings are crucial to podcast production, allowing the podcast to more vividly present the story itself, and to shape character images and make the podcast content more engaging through details such as the defendants' conversations and songs on the road.
Josh Dean: As a podcast producer, he emphasized the importance of teamwork in podcast production and how to transform complex news events into engaging audio stories. He praised the professionalism and creativity of the production team and their contributions to the story.
Deep Dive
Josh Dean introduces "Inside the Tent," a podcast exploring the making of Campside Media's shows. This episode focuses on "The Michigan Plot," hosted by journalists Ken Bensinger and Jessica Garrison, which investigates the attempted kidnapping of Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.
- Five Campside shows, including "The Michigan Plot," were nominated for Signal Awards.
- "Inside the Tent" offers behind-the-scenes content and stories about Campside Media podcasts.
- "The Michigan Plot" is season seven of Chameleon.
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