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Listener discretion is advised. Okay, are you looking at her, sir? What happened there? Okay, tell me what happened. I don't know. Hi, my name's Mike. This is my show. It's called Sword and Scale, a show that reveals that the worst monsters are real. And today we're going to discuss a very interesting story. But I'm going to warn you in advance. I'm going to offer my opinion first.

I'm going to offer my opinion a whole lot. I'm going to offer it so much, it's going to be really annoying.

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That's the legacy of Toyota. Visit BuyAToyota.com, the official website for deals, to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. Is anyone really who you think they are? Today we present just the very best moments of our lives on social media for the world to see. But that's not really the whole picture, is it? There's a lot more to us than what we show.

What we show can be intentionally deceiving sometimes. That's why it's important not to believe everything you see online, especially if it's coming from an anonymous source. That influencer that you follow that puts on makeup while talking about someone's death, yeah, she cries sometimes. Yeah, maybe she's even depressed. Maybe her life's falling apart behind the scenes and you don't even know it. Looks can be deceiving.

And no, I'm not talking about anybody in general. There's lots of makeup tutorial true crime shows out there, sadly. But the point is that sometimes people aren't who they seem to be. Monsters are very much real, but they aren't always the person you first suspect. It was 8:30 AM on October 28th, 2012, and a Florida firefighter had just returned home after a grueling 24-hour shift.

to find out that his house had been turned upside down.

The firefighter had come home to find his wife Kim lying bloody at the foot of their bed. She was naked except for a white cotton shirt which had been pushed up around her neck, exposing her upper body. - Fire rescue Cyrus, what is your address? - Sir, wait a minute. - God damn it, listen to me. - And what is the-- - 10 rescue 50.

Kim had blood all over her face and hair.

At first glance, it appeared that she had tried to hurt herself. So that's what her husband told dispatch. Her body was cold and posed like a fallen ballerina with one leg curled, frozen in a pirouette. Kim had two white zip ties around each of her wrists and one around her ankle. Kim's husband had found himself on the receiving end of a tragedy. As a firefighter, he experienced tragedy every shift, but

It was much different now that it was happening in his own home, and he was growing increasingly angry as he waited for help. This is when Kim's husband began to realize that his wife...

was dead. His name was Derek Dorsey. He was 44 years old and had been married to his wife Kim for a decade.

Now she lay naked and dead in their master bedroom. The realization of what was happening made Derek soften a little, and he finally let the tears out. Oh, Jesus Christ. You're at a rescue? Yes. Yes. Okay, sir. So you think she's beyond any resuscitation? Yes, we're at a rescue anyway. Yes, rescue's on the way, okay? Do you know what happened? No, I don't.

This wasn't another shift as a firefighter. This was his house. His bedroom was covered in his wife's blood. Derek finally saw the situation for what it really was. He had just lost his wife and he had no idea what had happened. Okay.

Kim and Derek Dorsey had a large, upscale house in a gated community. Because they had no children, only three miniature schnauzers, the couple were free to focus on their careers and self-care. They had a gym, a bar, a billiard room, a big office, and a tanning room.

all the fine luxuries in modern living. Kim had her own construction company and also worked as a director of training for the Quality Assurance Department of Inspection Depot. The Dorseys had a pretty comfortable life. The Dorseys also kept guns in the home for safety. Kim had one in a drawer beside her bed and now it was missing. Kim had no bullet holes in her, but there were obvious shots that had been fired into the walls.

Oh, my God. I don't know what's going on. So which door was open? Are y'all dead by this door? D-R-A-W-E-R. Okay. It's just hard to understand something, you know, when you talk a little louder, get a little distorted. That's all. I don't want to even talk to anybody right now. It's our job to stay on the phone until the officer gets there when it's this type of call, okay? Jesus Christ, dude.

Yeah. Rescue's here. Good. Alright. When help arrived, Kim was quickly taken to the medical examiner's office. When rescue lifted her body, they found a broken pool cue underneath her. Police began to search the house and found more peculiarities besides the plastic zip ties on Kim's body. The house was a mess. A dog statue at the front door had been kicked over. Derek's home office had been destroyed.

Paperwork was thrown everywhere and drawers were ripped open. In the guest bedroom, there was blood on the mattress. Police also found a half-drunk bottle of Bacardi rum on the nightstand and cigarette butts on the floor. But neither Derek nor Kim smoked. In fact, Kim despised smoking and forbade it in the home. Christmas wrapping paper had been tossed out of the closet and chucked onto the floor,

Downstairs, the kitchen sink had been filled with TV remote controls for some reason. In the billiard and games room, a custom pool cue was missing from its place on the shelf. It was the same one found under Kim's body. After days of looking into this bizarre scene, the police needed more to work with. Perhaps this was a robbery gone wrong. So, they went to the public. Coming to you today because...

Several days later after that beginning of that investigation, we are not a whole lot farther along than we were Sunday morning. I would like to solicit the public's help for information on this case.

This case has garnered quite a bit of attention because of the fact this is a public service family member who was killed. The public has shown a lot of interest and support thus far. We wanted to come forward at this time asking for help. Again, we worked that scene for several days, nearly around the clock. And like I said, because of the lack of witnesses,

These types of crimes occur.

Kim's murder was brutal and messy. As police continued to examine the scene and talk to Derek, they found even more weird things. Derek's custom Harley Davidson Zippo lighter was missing from its box. Whoever did this to Kim had clearly stolen it.

Yet, they'd left Derek's Rolex watches on the nightstand and his computer untouched. In the garage, they found a Lonely Wives porn magazine, which Derek swore was not his. How much evidence of foul play? Substantial. Can you describe some of that? I would prefer not to. Keep in mind that there's...

Kim's head and face had been brutally beaten. Her breasts were bruised and her ribs were fractured. She had died from one deep fatal stab wound to the neck.

When detectives asked Derek to turn on his DVD player in the living room, he expected to see a movie he and Kim had been watching pop up on the screen. But that didn't happen. Instead, a porn movie called Lonely Wives came up. Derek got angry. "Motherfucker, that should not be on there!"

That's the same magazine that's out in the garage. It is a gated neighborhood, so there may be some people in that actual neighborhood who we haven't spoken to. If there's relative information that anyone has regarding the activity that Kim may have had that Saturday to that Sunday, we would certainly like to speak with them as well. Now, the police had their work cut out for them. In the meantime, Derek prayed that somebody somewhere knew something.

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Derek Dorsey had returned home from a 24-hour firefighting shift to find his wife Kim beaten and stabbed to death in their upscale home. The house had been ransacked, but in strange ways. The police found remote controls in the kitchen sink as though someone had attempted to wash them, zip ties around Kim's wrists, as well as a pornographic movie in the DVD player. None of Derek's Rolex watches or computers had been taken.

It seemed that whoever killed Kim stuck around the house for a long while after drinking and smoking and watching a porn movie called Lonely Wives. I haven't seen that one. I wonder if there's a part two or three or four. Derek Dorsey was cooperative with the police. He admitted that things between him and Kim were not so great.

Then again, every couple goes through tough times at one point or another. But Derek had been kind of sleeping around with other women behind her back. Maybe Kim knew. Maybe she didn't. But he swore that he still loved his wife deeply. She was a strong, beautiful, independent individual. Worked hard for everything she ever did. She was a productive member of society. This is just the type of person that she was.

Derek said he had nothing to gain from Kim's death. There was no life insurance policy to be cashed out or a new girlfriend to move in and take Kim's place. Plus, Derek's alibi was solid and actually checked out. He was working at the fire station during the murder. So, who did this? Derek and Kim were a career-oriented couple. They had no kids, just a few dogs. And both worked in the construction world.

Kim had a degree in civil engineering and headed up quality assurance for an inspection depot where she helped Floridians prepare construction for hurricanes. Derek ran his own general contracting business on top of being a firefighter, so they had a lot of cash. But Kim took her work very seriously and it soon weighed on her. She couldn't turn off work and she found herself taking antidepressants. She gained a lot of weight

Her body changed and her mind didn't feel so great. The week she was killed, she was planning on going back to the doctor to switch up her medication. The side effects were taking a major toll on her physical and mental health. That's why Derek immediately thought she'd killed herself when he came home to find her, you know...

But Kim's death was not a suicide. The state of the house told a story of turmoil. Kim had clearly fought off whoever had attacked her. She'd even managed to get a gun at one point and fire off some rounds at her assailant. She missed, and the bullet hit the wall. It was also determined that Kim had been raped.

She died from blunt force trauma to her head and a fatal stab wound. This attack was as personal as it is sickening. Derek ran a general contracting business and often employed various young guys on quick jobs. He gave the police a few names including Joshua Veal and Lance Kirkpatrick, or LJ as he was called. Lance actually lived with the Dorseys at one point.

And Derek said that he would have taken a bullet for Kim. So tell me when you lived with them. When was that? Not too long ago. Can I stay here in there if I have to? Okay. So who lives at the house besides him and her? The kids? No, they don't have kids. Okay. Do you have a car? No. No car.

Alright, so would he take you to work or would he take you to the job site? Yeah, he'd take me to the job site sometimes if I like. Depending on where I'm staying, he'd come pick me up right now. So roughly how long, if you know him, Kim, as long as you know him, Derek, they've been married the whole time you've known him? Yeah, they've been married the whole time I've known him, pretty much I meant.

Lance said that he met the Dorseys when he worked on their house.

Then Derek would call him to come do random jobs for his business. How long ago did you say you lived with him? Maybe a month, month and a half. Okay. Not even, I mean, I just went and couldn't map it.

Probably less than a month because I just went and cleaned the room. You know, he called me like a week or two ago, asked me to come clean the room upstairs. Okay. Did you leave the trash? Well, I didn't leave the trash, but I still had some clothes up there. He asked for me to be cleaned, you know, regular cleaning and stuff like that. So you went and did all that? So I went and did all that. When did you do that? I don't know. I don't see when he sent it. I don't see when he sent it. Okay.

Lance said that he hadn't been to the Dorsey's house since he cleared out his stuff. Lance said that he'd been staying with a new friend named Brian Kiefer. As he told police after leaving the Dorsey's, he'd become a bit of a vagabond.

When the police were on to Lance, they didn't just bring him in for fun. You see, Lance had told Derek that he was on a shrimping boat in Georgia when Kim died. But that wasn't true. He was in Jacksonville staying with his buddy Brian. Brian wasn't the most savory guy. Put it that way.

He was straight up sketch. And the police soon got a hold of Brian and brought him in to talk. There was a person that you know by the nickname of LJ. Do you know his real name?

It's Lance Kirkpatrick, but there is a middle name. I forget what it was. And he goes by the nickname of LJ? LJ. And do you have a nickname that you go by? Is that money? Yeah, just whatever the black people gave me. Okay. I mean, no racism. No problem. The woman that money, a.k.a. Brian, is talking to is black, just for context.

Anyway. But the black people call you money? It's like the circle of drug dealers. That's the name they gave me for some reason. So I let it be that way. That way I know that's the people that are talking to me. All right. Brian was your typical Floridian drug dealer. Think GTA 6 if you're a gamer. He was thin and tanned with a shaved head. He did the entire interview with his shirt off because he...

I don't know. Because he wanted to. He wanted to show off his cool tribal tattoos, you know? Maybe because he fancied himself hot. I don't know. I don't really know what goes through certain people's heads. But he just sat there with his shirt off and everyone else in the room was wearing normal clothes. I want to direct your attention to Florida Georgia Weekend. Do you remember that weekend? Yes. Last past weekend.

Did you have an occasion to see, I guess, a lady by the name of Melissa give her keys to LJ? Yes. Florida, Georgia weekend was the weekend of Kim's murder. For those of you that aren't Southern trash like me, let me translate. It's a big football thing. That's really all you need to know. Lance said he was on a shrimping boat that weekend, but he wasn't.

Okay, and what kind of car does Melissa have? A RAV4, a Toyota. Okay, do you recall what color it is? Like navy blue, but it's older, so it's a little faded. Okay. To your knowledge, was that—did Melissa give LJ those keys on Friday?

Saturday morning. Saturday morning. 4.30 a.m. 4.30 in the morning. The police had been at a standstill in their investigation, so they began checking security footage from the gated community where the Dorseys lived. In the morning, a few hours before Derek found his wife, they saw the same blue RAV4 driving on their street. Did you know where LJ was going?

Okay. Did he come back with the drugs? No. And did that concern you? Yes. Was that unusual for him not to come back? Okay.

And was the girl, Melissa, was she getting concerned too about her car? She was a crackhead, so she was just driving me up the wall. All right. So you get the picture. Lance and Brian were into some shady meth business. Brian's house acts like a hub for users to stop in, pick up drugs, do some, and leave. Lance is staying there and working for Brian because...

Construction and everything else in his life has slowed down. Now, Brian was involved in the drug world, but he also ran a legit business, too. How long have you known LJ? Three months. He used to work for me. And how'd you, you met him, how? I met him when I was at, uh,

truck dealer's house. I went over there to pay, help the GC get off heroin for three months and I went and paid off all his debt so that he could be my partner in my business. And one of the black gentlemen there stole my vehicle. So I was kind of stuck there.

And that's where I met LJ and he kind of explained to me what was going on there and then he was having a crappy life and then he wanted to be involved in that and if I could please help him. And I was like, I give you my word, buddy. I will try my hardest to help you in life. And when I leave here, I'll take you with me if you want and put you to work. And what kind of business do you have? BK4 and...

So I pretty much had to do complete home remodels, but my main focus is flooring. So you start to get a picture of the kind of life Brian is leading. Flooring by day, meth by night. When Lance met Brian, he was technically homeless, using occasionally and going down a dark path. On the night of the murder, Lance takes Melissa's car to pick up some more drugs, but he never comes back.

That same car is seen on Derek Dorsey's street. Now, at some point in time, were you so concerned that you went out with a person by the nickname of T to go look for LJ in a cab? Yeah, I spent $480...

for about four hours of riding around in a cab looking for LJ everywhere he's been to, went, everything. And were you able to find him? Didn't find a trace of him. Okay. And did you ultimately, I guess, go home and go to sleep? Is that what happened after you got... No, I didn't want to go home because I didn't want to face my girl or the girl that...

The other girl, Melissa, did go eventually. But she was pissed. Despite being a crackhead, Melissa called the police to report her RAV4 stolen. She told them exactly what had happened and gave Lance's name. That's how the RAV4 ended up on the police radar.

and how Lance's name clicked when it showed up on the report. My next understanding is that you get a call from LJ on Sunday. Is that right? Is that a yes? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And what does he tell you when he calls you on Sunday?

We need to meet and tell you the location. And is that the gate? On Southside and Tustin. Okay, and do you go to the gate on Southside and Tustin? I go there in Gator City Cab, and he's standing out front, and he tells me, do I need to show you? Sure, you can go ahead. Okay, he tells me that, can we pause it?

Brian was skeptical. Lance wasn't exactly the most credible person, and they were both, well, you know,

Sketchy. I'll just use the word sketchy. Is your son dead? Is your ex-wife dead? Am I dead? Is my fiance dead? No, right? And he's like, no. And I was like, so there are people you care about still in the world. And he said, yes. And I said, so why don't you focus on those people for now? Why are your heads running in circles and I don't even know if you're telling me a story or not?

"You know, because you've been out drinking, "you have your knuckles broken, you know, "and why don't you just focus on right now, this moment? "What do you want to do? "If you're going to prison, but you're not turning yourself in, "what do you want to do right now? "Do you want to watch the game?" He was like, "Yeah, I want to get a beer and watch the game." I was like, "All right, I'll buy you a beer and watch the game."

As they were talking, Brian noticed how bad Lance's hand looked. His bone was sticking out of his hand. Was he trying to treat it at all? It looked like he had cleaned himself up really good. So the last time you saw him, he didn't have any injuries to his hand? He had a cut on his hand, but he did not have a broken finger. Okay. He was scared that the DNA would have gotten on the body. And then he made those statements to you. Did you have any idea if those were true or not?

I didn't know if he had just gotten into a fight. He didn't say that it was a woman. If he had said it was a woman, then I would have, you know, kind of reacted more, you know? But just coming there, kind of looking drunk, kind of just, you know, he was just really, like, slow, you know, wasn't giving me no info. You know, the only thing he said was, I'm going to prison.

That's when the two parted ways, but Lance would return to Brian's mom's house later.

to watch that Florida-Georgia game. He came over and I made him two hamburgers and a drink and I walked upstairs and he was curled up in a ball sleeping. Okay. Lance hung out for a few days, but the two never talked about the murder again. Then Brian saw something on television about Lance's boss's wife committing suicide. Did you ever learn about this case at all?

I think you said, you thought it was a suicide. And it said suicide on it. Okay. So is that all the information you have? That's when I completely thought he was bullshitting. Okay. You know, because how can you make a murder look like a suicide if somebody shot at you? It made no sense. Okay. And so...

So, essentially, Brian forgot about the whole murder thing and just moved on. Then Lance brought it up again and things got serious. Well, let me ask you about the conversation that you end up having, you said a couple days after he was over your mom's house. Tell me, like, where y'all are when you have the conversation.

No details of the crime have been released to the public yet. Brian was telling them things that only the killer could have known.

Like the broken pool cue, which was later found under Kim's dead body. At one point, Lance had been married, and he had a young son from that relationship. Apparently, when he went back to the Dorseys to collect his son's things...

Kim wasn't happy. He said that the lady was going to call his boss. Her husband. Was at the fire station. Yeah, her husband. And I guess he took her cell phone is what he said. He said, I took her cell phone and I told her to get out of my way that I just wanted my stuff. And told her to leave me alone that I just wanted my stuff. And...

Pretty much, he just goes into... I don't know whether he hit her with that pool stick, but he kind of emphasized swinging the pool stick. Okay. And then he emphasized being shot at five times, and then he said that he was waiting for the sixth shot because he knew it was a revolver. Okay. But when he heard the window open...

The story was sparse and patchy, but the details matched up. The broken pool cue, the five bullet holes in the wall, and the blood on the window.

Right. Let's go back to what he was telling you, though. He says that, I guess, she shoots at him, he hits her, and stabs her. Where does he say he stabbed her?

I believe in the neck. Okay. The upper facial neck area. So somewhere her neck or above? Yeah. Okay. Does he say how many times? How many times? Okay. Well, he just says I stabbed her. Okay. And then what does he say? Does he say that she was dead or does he say anything about that? He said the lady was saying to stop.

Brian's statement secured Lance as the killer, but still the question of why remained. Why was Kim so angry when Lance showed up at the house to get his things? This was someone that Derek had told the cops would take a bullet for Kim. Derek had nothing bad to say about Lance, so why was Kim threatened when he showed up at her house? Brian had revealed the details of the gruesome attack

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The couple's former employee, Lance Kirkpatrick, had been seen driving a stolen car to the Dorsey's house on the day of the murder. And now his former boss, Brian Kiefer, had told police that Lance admitted to the murder. Without Brian, the police didn't have much. They had to keep him talking. And then, what does he say happens next? He said he was just so out of it, he stayed there for two hours waiting on the police to get there.

And then he left and then went back there two hours later because he realized he left his phone there. And then he cleaned up around there. What did he say he did to clean up? He just said he cleaned up. He said he put a phone in a trash compactor or a trash disposal. A garbage disposal? Garbage disposal. Okay.

There it was again. When Lance showed up at the Dorsey's house to get his son's things, he told Brian that Kim got so upset, she started threatening to call Derek at work. But Derek had told police that Lance was a good guy who would never do anything to Kim.

Then Brian revealed something sinister. And he had said that her husband always cheated on her. The husband cheats on her? Yeah. He did tell you that? Yeah. And that him and the husband had sex with some prostitute at his job about a week and a half ago. And I said, well, then he probably doesn't really care about her. And he was like, no, he cares about her.

That's all that was said about that. Derek had admitted to police that he had affairs, but no one knew that he was having threesomes with prostitutes and his employees. Maybe Kim had known about what Lance and Derek had done. Maybe she was upset about it when he showed up to their house. What the police did know from the evidence was that LJ showed up unannounced after a bender and demanded his son's things.

We can assume that Kim was frightened and threatened to call Derek, which resulted in Lance attacking her. We don't know how or why, but he did. The fight escalated and Lance tied Kim to her bedside table with zip ties. As he ran around the house, Kim managed to get out her revolver and shoot five times. Then she pulled free and tried to escape out the window. That's when Lance entered the room again,

and killed her. In the beginning I made a stupid comment. I was like, "Was there any motive for you doing this?" You know, I was trying to get a reason why you would kill somebody, you know? And he was like, "Nope. There was no motive at all. It was just the wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong time." And it got in the way of me getting my stuff for my son and I'll always regret it. I was getting everything I could out of him because

Did he say he purposely did not take something? Yeah. He said he purposely didn't take anything so it wouldn't look like it was him there. You know? Like, if he would have taken anything from his room, it wouldn't look like it was him. So, of course, he's...

He said that, you know, they were gonna look at it like it was the boss that killed her or something, you know, like... Lance hung around the Dorsey's house for hours after he murdered Kim. He left and came back. He watched that porn movie and he raped Kim. Then he tried to wash the remote controls of his DNA. He didn't think things through exactly. I mean, he was drunk and high when he did this. In fact, he was out of his mind.

I think earlier I stopped you when you were trying to say that he was concerned about his DNA being there because he had a cut. Yes, because he had punched holes in the wall like two days previous at my place because Luther Hines kicked the door into my house because that's a whole other story. But anyways, that's why he punched holes in the wall. And had cuts on his head. Yes.

Lance's DNA was eventually found all over the house. He drank from bottles. He left cigarette butts on the carpet. He didn't really try to clean up very much. Does LJ smoke? Yes. What does he smoke?

When I met him, he smoked Marlboro Reds. Now he smokes Marlboro Special Blind 72s. Do you smoke? I smoke Marlboro Ultralights, and he pretty much, since he hasn't had money, he's been smoking my Marlboro Ultralights, too. So as far as three brands, he would be around. Right after they spoke with Brian, Lance was picked up. The police expected him to be silent, but he talked. He started yapping.

I guess he doesn't know the golden rule we keep repeating here: don't talk to cops. When's the last time you were over at Derek's house? I went over there a week ago, maybe a week and a half ago, looking for him. See if I could get some money from him, get a phone, stuff like that, but he wasn't home. Okay. Who was there?

So they hide a key there? Yeah. And you looked there and see if it was there? Yeah, and it wasn't there. Okay.

Lance admitted to the police that he knew where Kim and Derek kept their extra front door key, under the dog statue. Now, if you recall, that particular statue was kicked over during the murder. It was all starting to come together. Do you remember what day it was that you went over there and did that?

Yeah, it was Georgia, Florida. Georgia, Florida. So? It was Georgia, Florida right before the game. Okay. So on that Saturday? Yeah, on that Saturday right before the game. Okay. So you went over there and you said you were going over to sleep there? Yeah. To sleep in Baltimore or to try to get some work out? Try and get some work, which is usually how it goes. Like, okay, I can use you for a day this week. Here, here's some cash. Okay. And that's how we usually do it. What time did you go over there that day?

What is Lance's strategy here? Is he trying to admit he went over there to account for his DNA and then trying to set up an alibi by watching the game at Brian's?

This is seriously an unintelligent man. My Lord, the Lies Melissa's car is the one he stole.

Just in case you forgot. Oh, hey, Lance. What are you doing? Well, what if I told you I didn't believe all your story? All what story? Well, all the part of the story that I was believing. Well, the part about how you got over to Derek's house on Saturday. Okay. With Melissa's truck? Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. How'd they get over there? Well, I know you had Melissa's truck, but Melissa wasn't in that truck. All right. Well, Jay, we're avoiding the big question here.

I've been asking the question since I got here. Yeah, I know you have been. Okay. Well, let's go ahead and let's get to this next step here, okay? Yes, all right. I know you went inside the house last Saturday. Or two Saturdays. In Florida, Georgia. Okay. All right. And you're good friends with Derek, right? Very good. Okay. Very good. And I know you're talking to people. Okay. All right. You got to remember, I talk to a lot of people, okay? Okay. My son.

All freaking day today talking to people. Okay. Alright. And people talk, okay? And people tell us things. Okay. Alright. And I know that you went inside the house, okay? I haven't been inside the house. Well, you have. Okay. When we talk to people, we talk to a lot of people. We get a lot of information. Alright. And then we look at our head, okay? Yeah. Do you know how a cell phone works? Basically. Tell me how a cell phone works.

This is when the cops had to explain to idiot drug addict Lance that his phone is a tracking device and it follows him wherever he goes, leaving a digital footprint. It's amazing that people on earth in 2024 still aren't aware of that. Must explain our current state of political affairs. They also had to explain to this drain on society that

That there was evidence at the scene, like security camera footage, and that the evidence didn't really look all that good for him. Okay.

When I say you're not a monster, I know this because you talked to somebody and told them what happened. Okay? We've spoken to him, and he's already told us what you said. And with that, Lance is pretty much done. He stopped talking. But the detective still swabbed his cheeks to confirm the DNA and arrested him for Kim's murder. Good morning. Thank you all for coming out on a busy news day. Sunday, October 28th, 2012, about 8.32 a.m.

the 3600 block of Eastbury Drive, 38 year old Kim Marie Dorsey was found dead by her fire rescue husband. We actually received information after that

Some of that information that we received led us to a person who we had some knowledge of, a person who had in the past lived with the victim and her husband. That person was 31-year-old Lance Eugene Kirkpatrick. With that information, we actually found over the next days after we got that, a subject who was an associate of Kirkpatrick's who cooperated with investigators in this case

Derek was beside himself when he found out that Lance was the one that killed his wife. He held up photographs of Kim to the camera and let the tears roll. This is the person you took away from me.

Her family and everyone else. Kim taught me so much. I just wish I could have been a better person for her. It took two years for Lance's family to get to trial. He made it a living hell for Kim and her family members, dragging out the proceedings with lies and various tactics in order to attempt to save himself from prison. In the end, it didn't work.

He faced a courtroom for the rape and murder of Kim Dorsey, and he was sentenced to three life terms for his heinous, disgusting crime. Derek spoke directly at Lance during the sentencing. The man he had once considered a buddy, so close that they even had sex with the same prostitute at the same time, was now going to jail for murdering his wife. And yes, I did say prostitute, not sex worker.

Because no matter what your social media told you, fucking ain't work. For two and a half years, I've stood by and watched the defendant prolong the proceedings with lies, besorching Kim's name, and even snitching on every person he knows in order to save his own skin. Good luck with that reputation in prison, LJ. Derek attended grief counseling after Kim's death and began working with a psychologist who would later become his new wife.

The two started a mental health practice together. And Derek Dorsey is now director of operations for a local mental health care counseling facility. And he's also still a firefighter, but as less than a year before retirement, he says, above all, he wants to thank everyone involved in his case, the prosecutors, the detectives. He said that they were all amazing. Everyone in this tragic story was a different person than they presented to the world.

There's a lot of that going around in 2024. Especially after an election, I might add. Derek was a firefighter and a business owner who had a beautiful house and a beautiful wife, just like David Byrne. Yet behind her back, he was cheating on her with many women and even having sex with prostitutes with his seedy employees. Kim seemed like a happy, successful businesswoman. But inside, she was crumbling.

and fighting a terrible depression. Brian looked like a sketchy Floridian drug dealer and a roofer, but he was the hero of this story. He rescued men who were down and out, and when one of them confessed to a murder, he immediately turned him in. He actually had a conscience. Sometimes looks can be deceiving. And Lance? Well, Lance was a troubled, sad man.

who may have been grateful for the help that the Dorseys gave him, but he committed a brutal, disgusting act towards Kim and will never truly understand why. Monsters are real and could be anyone. Heroes are real too, and they don't always come looking like you'd expect.

That does it for yet another one. Thank you so much for joining us once again. Just to let you know, there may be a few hurdles with our schedule in the coming weeks. Just life stuff, things that kind of take my time away that cannot be helped, unfortunately, and

I must be present for. So apologies in advance if we don't put out a show here and there in the coming weeks. It's not something I'm happy about or looking forward to, I assure you. ♪♪♪

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