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Side stories. Yes. We don't normally do this directly after Good Pud.

Yeah, I like how yucky I feel. I never thought that we would... Well, just because I consumed... How was the deviled egg pudding? I wanted to die a very quick death. You know what was really nice about it, honestly? I feel like I want it. You would like it. Is there something left? We threw it out just to see the smell. The smell was pretty horrific. But it was just, honestly, a more egg-forward mayonnaise.

Okay. Which that sounds like a nightmare, I think, to a lot of people. But then we tried bacon soda. But mayonnaise is made out of eggs. See, that's the thing. And you'd think like, oh, it's just going to be like you're eating a bunch of mayonnaise, which don't get me wrong, we all love to do. But add a bunch of the taste of hard-boiled eggs to it. It was awesome.

Yeah, you're talking like... You like deviled eggs. This is what I'm saying. This is the problem. It was essentially you could take that pudding and you could put it in the shell of a hard-boiled egg and it would taste just like a deviled egg. Yeah, and that makes me want to cry to death. Deviled eggs could have been an alternate title for Rosemary's Baby.

Hey! Now that is an intellectual film-based joke. Oh my god, is that all we're doing here today? Because I am not prepared. Today is Intellectuals. Welcome to Side Stories. I'm your host, Henry Zebrowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson. I'm smart! Oof!

Oh, you know when he dog barking, you know he's smart. I'm a smart dog. I'm a smart dog. He's got that dog in him. He's got that dog. And we have our film correspondent, the tiny-headed, big-mouthed Jackie Zabrowski. I've got a little head. I've got a big mouth. Tiny-headed, big-mouthed.

Here's the thing. Henry's been telling me, and I'm not going to use the phrase gaslighting, but Henry's been telling me I have a small head my entire life. And then I went to get my head measured, and I actually have a medium-sized head. Nice. I got a big one. Thank you. Yeah, you do have a big head. It's not a big head. No, it's not like too big. No, not you. I'm talking about her. Oh, yeah. It's a small head. It's not a small head. It's a medium-sized head.

normal sized head. You got a small head. You do have a little head. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm not as famous as I should be. Yes, because everyone knows that famous people have gigantic heads. That is actually, that is the truth. Humphrey Bogart probably died younger than he should have because of the size of his head. DiCaprio's got a huge head. Jack Black's got a huge fucking head. Clooney's got a noggin. A huge noggin. Brad Pitt's got a huge noggin. Yeah. They're all tiny with Mike Myers, dude. These are all

Mike Connors is a giant head. Well, yeah, of course. He's in heaven and doom. Well, ladies, what's weird about ladies is that they are all literally the size of Hot Pockets. Yeah. Every famous woman, I saw, what's her name? What's her? Ooh, she's pretty. The, um... Cate Blanchett. No, she'll never let me near her. Cate Winslet. No, not... She has several orders against me. Cate Beckinsale. Also doesn't want me near her. It's, what's her name, with the big wide eyes. See, we're looking at pictures right now. No, who's got the eyes?

She has eyes on either side of her head. That's Brandy. Emma Stone. No. Anya Taylor-Joy. That's the one. Oh, yeah. She's got a hammerhead shark head. She's very small. I know, but she's sexy. It's a sexy shark. But she's so tiny. It's almost like when you see them in real life, they look like little baby people. Yeah, but that's why I like her exaggerated features. I feel like that's what really seduces you. She does look like an emoji. That's why she's good on camera. So today's episode. Furiosa was cool. I do. It was good.

It was good. I liked it. It was like a chapter. Surprisingly fantastic turn by Chris Helmsworth. I'm very impressed. Oh, he was very good. I never thought I would say the words, I want to see more from him. Seriously. I did not think that he would be good. But today, what we are doing, because this is the spooky season, is that we have been charged with the seminal holiday task.

Of 31 for 31. That is 31 horror films for the 31 days of October. And we wanted to do a bit of a roundup of what we've seen. Yeah, we haven't watched all of them yet. We have not watched them. It's still in the middle of the month. I'm so curious as to how you guys came up with your list because I follow a rubric every year where I have to, like, fulfill different topics and themes to help me

make sure that my list is varied. I'm going to do that. Our list is pretty varied. It's pretty varied, but I love what you did, Jackie, because Jackie does have each day its own specific bracket, like its own specific horror, which also shows how many subgenres are within horror films. You're just list off

Just list off a bunch just off the top. We even change some of them year to year because, like, you know, you can go through the different generations, like 50s or earlier, 60s, 70s, 80s. But then there's sci-fi horror, queer horror, zombies, a Wes Craven film, a Friday the 13th film, any kind of scary kids, whether they are the bad ones or something bad happens to the kids. And they gave you the movie Them.

Yeah. Sure. Which is scary kids. Very scary kids. You know that the diner in Nightmare on El Shifo is called The Crave Inn.

I'm sorry to interrupt. No, I love factoids. It's one of my favorite. Man, bring back pop-up video. Pop-up video. That's why I love Joe Bob Briggs. Pop-up movie. Yes, that's why I love Joe Bob. I mean, that's just me at home with my computer open while I watch a movie. Which is usually what I do. I know, but that's the thing. But then I get invested and I miss important shit today. No, because you're making the producers...

Pick and choose what they're going to tell you about the facts. I was doing that. I was watching Frankenhooker today, and I started looking at my phone to see who the actors are, and I almost missed the giant pile of tits. You just never do that. Frankenhooker was so much fun. Frankenhooker's amazing. I'd never seen it before, but I know we'll get into it. It's my last Hen and Lauder movie, I think. Although I haven't seen Basket Case 3. Have you seen Bad Biology? Yes. We watched it for Adam Wertz's bachelor party. Oh, that's right.

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. It's a good bachelor party. A long time ago. What excites me about the different topics, though, like, for instance, vampire. I'm like, I've seen all the vampire movies. But then I looked into the newer vampire movies that came out. And there's one I have not heard of it at all called Humanist Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal Person. Apparently, it is a dark comedy about a vampire that is just trying to, like, ethically be a vampire. But it's supposed to be really good. It's a bit...

It's a very indie film. And a lot of times with indie films, the only problem is that they just do stuff like...

They don't have any horror effects. But I'm okay with that, though. I think it's fun sometimes when you're put into that box and you've got to figure it out. Blair Witch Project shows that you'd need $10,000 to make a fucking movie. Terrifier 2 was only made for $250,000. Terrifier 1, $35,000. Are we going out the gate talking about Terrifier? Because I watched all three Terrifiers this week for the first time. Just hold one second before we go into any of these. I just want to make sure, up top,

because of how many screaming, angry emails we get about this topic is there is going to be some light spoilerage throughout the rest of this episode. It's going to be light. We're not going to talk about Terrorfire 3.

All right. I think anything that came out in 2024. Yes, VHS Beyond, we won't get too into. We will not talk about that. We will not talk about anything that came out this year. Maybe Joker 2, only just because we hate them. And we can talk about the new Salem's Lot, too. I haven't seen the new Salem's Lot. I've found most recent. Yeah, it is. I haven't seen it yet. I have not seen it because it's not on my list. It's not on my list. Our list.

It was on my list, though. All right. So we are going to talk about what we've all seen. Now, maybe we can. I think Terrifier is a good thing to start with because Terrifier 1, to me, is an example of...

a great return to form of old school horror iconography. Now, one thing about Terrifier 1 is that it's definitely not complete and it is definitely uneven. But the thing that stands out for me with Terrifier 1 is obviously Art the Clown. What do you mean it's not complete? Yeah, why don't you think it's complete? Well, just because it feels...

thin compared to what Terrifier 2 would then be. Well, there's no plot. Yes. But I like that there's no plot. I like that there's no... It's just chaos. ...that you have... There's no lore about Arthur the Clown. Oh, sure. But that's why I'm saying it's amazing as a first chapter. Yes. I think that the fact that they went on to... I think that if...

if it came out, Terrifier 1 came out and there was no sequel, we would eventually forget about that film. Yeah. But I think that Terrifier 2, with the addition of the lore, the blowing out of the story, mixed with a little bit more money, Terrifier 2, it's also the performer, right?

The guy who plays Art is arguably the best physical actor in horror right now outside of what the super skinny guy. Super skinny guy. Doug Jones. He is. David Howard Thornton is unbelievable. He is. I really didn't think I was going to like Terrifier at all.

Terrifier 2 blew my mind again. I can't believe how much I enjoyed the first and the second one because I thought beforehand, I thought this was all torture porn. And again, it is. It's not torture though. It's mutilation. I think it's schlocky,

violence, and I think that's very different than torture porn. You know what, Jackie? I think that you're right, because hostile, like when I don't like hostile. Hostile sucks. Yeah, I don't like hostile because it's not for me. And I look like the bad guy from Hostile 2, and people yell at me in the street. You do look like him, and I'm worried. Oh, sorry. It's what are you going to do? You know what I mean? People yell at you. You're beautiful. Where's the girl? What are you talking about? Where's the girl? Let me see the girl. Will you find me? I pay money for girls. Every single time we go anywhere, and there's a picture of a warthog, if there's a picture

of a fat bald man with a mustache, we are it. So it doesn't matter. And they go, why are you thinking it's me? It's all the same. It's all the same to us. But Terrifier, like, it really, like...

I feel that we missed the horror icon. And with Terrifier 2, that's why I was like, I realized watching it this time because we went and watched a double feature last night, which is one of the first times I've seen one of those in a long time. I had so much fun doing this with you guys. It was fun. It was a blast. We were watching Terrifier to one o'clock in the goddamn morning. Yeah, because we watched Terrifier 2 and Terrifier 3 back to back. But all of us the night before separately had watched the original Terrifier. Just to make sure we were locked in.

But it shows it how, like, I love that he said a bunch of Easter eggs in Terrifier 1 that then developed in Terrifier 2. Yes! Yeah, I don't know if he wrote that in Terrifier 1 or just figured he'd expand on it, which seemed like to me. You know what? I want to say something about Terrifier 1. All right, I have a theory because a low-budget manufacturer

filmmaking. We've been a part of it plenty of times. Oh, certainly. Alright, so you know the old you know the crazy lady in the basement of the house in Terrifier 1? Yes. With Emily the doll? Yes. I believe that that baby doll...

was originally written as a baby and they couldn't afford it. And they're like, fuck it. She's crazy. She's crazy. She's got a doll. I love that. Also, she was a beautiful woman for how like insane and houseless she was supposed to be. I was just like, man, she seems like she's doing okay. She was a good actor. And, but he openly says Damien Leone, like as I was reading about his process was that it seemed like he,

His whole thing was about capturing inspiring moments at the time. So he said like stuff with art, the clown. Well, there's one spot. I just spoil. I was talking about the Terrifier. Terrifier one. We could spoil. We can't. But there was one example he used of.

with art and being like, okay, let's do X, Y, Z. They were doing a together, like an experimentation of what we do with this character and how we react. And you would let him run wild and do stuff and then kind of like they would find and source the sequences as they went. That's so fun. One of the best parts about the movie, I think the reason why it transcends from torture porn into something else was the

stripe of humor that runs throughout the entire thing that breaks attention. And genuinely funny. Yes, because you also... The third movie's the funniest, I would say. But then I would say that the last 20 minutes of the third one is the most brutal of the entire series. Very upsetting. You think so? The last 20 minutes of Firefire 3... I think because you actually care at that point.

point a little bit. Maybe it was just because I was five hours in and I was desensitized by that point. You know, I didn't give a fuck. But it's really, it gets pretty bleak at the end of Terrifier 3, but it's awesome because it does end on a cliffhanger. I will say that, which is pretty crazy. Now, have you guys seen All Hallows Eve, which is apparently where Art the Clown originally shows? Different dude. Is it

Different guy. Oh, okay. And he says, as a matter of fact, the original, the makeup he wore in Terrifier 2 was based on the original guy, which is why it fit him weirdly for a long time. Gotcha. And now he got it all redone for three, so it's more malleable. The original Arthur Clown in All Hallows' Leaf, honestly, was kind of fucking...

I'm not a huge fan of All Hallows' Eve. It's a bit old. We'll have to put it on the list next year because it's definitely a Halloween movie. Very much so. But I just think it's... Is it as brutal?

No, because it's the anthology series. So it's got stuff. I just find it. But I love an anthology series, though. It's very, very, like, it's very empty. Yeah. So it started with the Ninth Circle, which was the short film with Art the Clown. So the makeup was a thing that's been traveling with Damian Leon throughout all of these projects. But it didn't have, like, I'm assuming the same, like, mime work, right?

They elevated it all the way up. They probably just got a better actor with this one. You also notice in Terrifier 1, the comedy is way subtler. Well, there's hardly any comedy. Anything that could be comedy in Terrifier 1 is just upsetting. Because he only does a couple of laugh stingers.

He kind of does a couple a little bit, but largely he is a gruesome, frightening clown. But again, why Terrifier 2? It's climbing up the ranks of one of my favorite sequels. I feel like it's very rare when you find that the direct sequel is better than the first one. Yeah. Because I wouldn't say it's better, but I really also liked it a lot. See, I think it's way better.

I think it's way better. I think it's better across the board. I think I was more just shocked that I liked the first Terrifier so much. You know when you go into something thinking you're not going to like it and then you're like when you're so happily surprised that I was like, oh my God.

I would definitely... Now I get... I feel like in the past, I didn't understand, as someone that goes to a lot of horror cons with my husband, who makes horror artwork, I feel like there's so many people that have, like, tattoos... Yeah, check out Krudink! There's so many people that have, like, tattoos of Art the Clown and stuff like that, and I never really...

got that because it's like you don't see as much with like let's say a jigsaw or something like that. See I don't think I want him on a t-shirt. I don't. I want Freddie on a t-shirt. I want Michael Myers on a t-shirt. Jason maybe. But Art the Clown. Art is scary. It's just too upsetting I think. I will say is that I I

was hesitating this is so funny as a t-shirt hoarder and a person that also views my t-shirts as like my expressions of myself yeah this is the first time and I was sitting there at the middle of Terrifier 3 I was like

I think it's time I'm getting an Art the Clown shirt. Wow. I was just like, ready for it. He's entering into the lexicon. I'm kind of mad they weren't selling them at the theater. They should have. I would have bought one if they were selling them. But I was watching, I was like, this is, he has legitimately become a new favorite character of mine because of the, that's why, it was like, Terrifier 2 feels like Elm Street 3 and Terrifier 3 feels like Elm Street 4. It's like very similar vibes and they're very similar. I love the soundtrack. I love the entire atmosphere and the,

There's just something about Art the Clown just having a good time. And he's always having a good time. He's just having a good time. All of the stuff that he does is simply for his own enjoyment. You know what's interesting is every scene is brutal, right? Every scene's brutal, but it's like a different style of horror every time. Because one time it's like a horror comedy.

And then it just goes to like fucking straight up like sorority murder. And then it goes to like, you know, and it just like. It transcends genres inside of the horror genre, which is really fun. It adds layers. It feels like he's creating you. It's also one of the first times, honestly, that I've seen a final girl that I. She was great. I enjoyed her name. Can we find her name real quick?

She was fantastic because also Kate Corcoran was in Terrifier 1. After interviewing her and hanging out with her, what was her name? Lauren Lavera. Lauren Lavera. Unbelievable job. But Kate Corcoran, we interviewed her during the pool party, the LPN pool party. I interviewed her. She was very lovely and I didn't enjoy watching her get a kiss. I did not know how she died and I was very surprised. I will say I like...

watching my friends get murdered on camera. I think it's fun. I think it's fun as hell because everybody that's ever been in those movies, they love getting killed. Although I don't know. I know someone that was in one of those movies and said, wow, you were just naked and being hung from a place for quite

sometimes. Yeah, Natalie did it. She's like, that's one of those things. It's a part of the pain that you're supposed to feel of the whole thing. It's fun. It's difficult, but it's difficult to do. It's physically difficult. Yes, it's difficult to be very, very good at. And Lauren Lavera is really killing this series. But I was sad because honestly, what I texted you guys this morning, I genuinely had a

bad dream last night with the little girl clown that is in Terrifier 2. Yeah, that's the best one. That little girl clown creeped me the fuck out and I genuinely had a nightmare about it last night. That little girl is so good. She's so good in it. Terrifier 2 is really good. And I did have fun with Terrifier 3 and I liked it. I...

always have a soft spot for a Christmas horror movie. Oh, me too. I think if I re-watch any of them, it'll be Terrifier 3. Yes. Really? Yeah, yeah. Versus Terrifier 2. Well, I'd watch the second one again. I think Terrifier 2 is like... It's my favorite of them. It is just like...

If I could be honest, I really enjoyed it. It's very good. It's a good horror movie. The story is actually good. It's good. It's just hard to watch bodies get ripped apart like that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It is just like they don't shy away from showing you anything. That's why I like it. And it's just like, okay, we're just going to take the jaw off the face. Hey!

But I also like, and yet though he's not a bum. And he did such a good job. We were sitting in the last row. It was a couple of times when I just hear him go like, ah, ah.

And I was like, Eddie, you're so strong. You're doing so good. Yeah. But, like, I've watched horror movies my entire life. You know, it's not like it's new to me. This is just... It's just so brutal. No, but again, I like that he's not above just pulling out a gun. I think that's also fun. That flipped me out. I was so surprised. I've never seen a slasher fucking just all of a sudden...

That's the best part. But I was like, that's what he's an equal opportunity killer. He's a, again, he is a chaos agent. He reminds me of Freddy Krueger. Thank you for not brutally showing children being murdered as someone that, that does actually kind of make me nauseous. I know. Not holding back on killing children, killing children, but I think it's awesome. It's a happy medium. It's a happy medium. Watching children get killed on film.

And I think that it's fun when you show that Art the Clown does not give a fuck. Because what I also love is that... That was my favorite part in Looper, when he fucking killed that kid. Oh, yeah. Well, Terrifier 3 apparently finally got a chance for him to get some huge, huge budgets. And there's an opening sequence of Terrifier 3 that apparently...

made everyone say no. Everybody said no. And I was just like, when I watched it, I was like, this is my film. Terrifier 3 and Terrifier 2. Terrifier 3 more than Terrifier 2. I felt like there was stuff that they had to leave out in order to release the film.

In which one? In Terrorfire 3. I feel like there was full scenes removed. No, buddy. Fully independently. Really? He made it completely independently. That man's free. Damien Leone is figuring out the scenes. Well, I'm talking about for the MPAA. It's not rated NC-17. It's rated R, right? What is it? It might be rated. It might be unrated. Oh. I don't know.

Not rated. Not rated? It's completely independent. Wow, not rated. That's what's fucking awesome, is that they got to do whatever they wanted. I didn't know you could do that. I honestly didn't. I never thought about that. You just don't get certain support. He probably can't go get it nominated for things, but then that's whatever. He doesn't fucking give a shit. Yeah, he's not looking to get it nominated. But we have to... That's where I will defend this to my deathbed, which is what he does right is...

is the fact that he goes so over, over, over the top. Because I do think that there is, like Natalie and I talk about like one of our main issues with comedy

essentially torture porn is when it's realistic and not entertaining. When it literally is just torturing someone in a realistic fashion and it's just crying and screaming and there's nothing else going on. And this is not realistic. No, no. When he grabs somebody, because the thing is you realize it's all supernatural violence. There are things that you're doing that humans can't do. Even in Terrifier 1, we talked about how when they do that very famous kill of Kate where they hang her upside down naked and split her in half where it's like,

That is ludicrous. Like, and so on that level, while it's a horrific site, it's also so, so over the top. You're just like, it really, it's, it's more, it's art. Yeah.

The clown? Come on. Fuck you. I will say, when he did, like, can we talk about that scene for two seconds from Terrorfire 1? Yeah. Sure, yeah. Yeah, because it's old enough now. Yeah. So she was hung upside down and cut vagina first in half with a... Chainsaw. Not a chainsaw. A handsaw. Yeah, a handsaw. That's right. I honestly felt like...

It was too quick. Well, that would take more. That would take like 20 minutes. But that's why I explained to you is that that's why it's OK. It's because legitimately they split the person in half quickly to show you how impossible it would be. It is not in any way realistic. You know what I mean? It is not. It could not happen that way. The way it is happening is like it's entirely essentially comical. Yeah.

No, no, no. Yeah, we're watching. And you can see, we're looking at Terrifier 1. You can really see how much worse the makeup is too, right? Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Well, and then you think about... Well, they got more money. I'm going to say a scene that I'm going to assume is like an homage to this scene that happens in Terrifier 3. Yeah. You can tell definitely the difference then because of all the closer up shots of...

of the sawing motions through the body part that it was sawing through. Also, Damien Leone does the makeup. He does it all. Really? He had help in three. In three, he had help. Okay, yeah. But that's so impressive to me. Well, that's the reason why I believe two took four years to make. No. Yeah, it took like 2018. I don't think it came out until... And people were complaining because it was too long, but as someone that watched it late at night, I didn't think it was... I thought it ripped, but...

Ripped by. It could have been a little shorter. It took about... I think it could have been. No movie, unless it is... I've now realized that this is where I'm at. I'm at. Is that if it is not Peter Jackson's original Lord of the Rings uncut, it does not need to be longer than two hours long. But that's why the first Terrifier is so perfect. Yes. Because it is 90 minutes. But that's why Terrifier 3 is...

got my vote more because it's not two and a half hours long. Terrifier 2 is too long. Yeah, but it's like two hours and two minutes long. Are we mad that they left Halloween and moved to Christmas without even explaining themselves? No. And no Thanksgiving. No. Not a moment of Thanksgiving. Absolutely not. I love, I love

Love that they went to Christmas. Please. Yeah. I love that he just went to school. I just love Christmas horror movies. But why not make it come out in December? Because then this is how they make their money. Yeah.

Yeah, because then you're going to watch it now and you're going to watch it again in December. I'm going to rent it again for Christmas. Oh, yeah. We're going to show it in the backyard. Oh, yeah. Do you think there's ever a world where they would do a Terrifier maze? Because the Terrifier is like its own maze. Oh, yeah. It must be. But I think Universal would have to sign off on it. Or they'd have to pay a lot of money. Yeah.

They rent the character. Because in two, like, they spend time in a clown haunted house. I know. They must have used one. It looked like they used one that was already existing. I mean, we just went to a great clown haunted house over at the Queen Harbor, the big scary ship. And they have a really good big top haunt that you can walk through. And it's a bunch of, like, you know, I feel like your brain is, you know,

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Well, all right. So now we've been talking about them for a while. I'm excited, for instance, for body horror this year. I'm going to go ahead and say it. I've never seen Tetsuo. And I'm so excited to watch. Tetsuo, you're going to be...

Oh, really? No, I was excited. It's horrifying. It's really gross. I haven't seen it since college. It's Tetsuo the Iron Man. Yeah, I haven't seen it since college. It's a really good old-fashioned, everybody gets freaked out. It's a guy's turning into metal. It makes me think of T-Donk.

Remember Teton? Oh, Teton was good. Yeah, man. Dude. But this, I liked it a lot and I think that it's very, it's an art film. Okay, all right. I'll give it, you know, a slap in there. I'm so excited. You know what I would say that was, I forgot just how truly powerful it was, the

It's Freaks. Oh, yeah, it's a good film. And when we watch... So we watch it in the backyard up on the projector screen and on that scale, it's so good and you kind of forget that the point of view of the movie...

is really about, so those of you who don't know, it is about a strong man and a new, I believe it's like, it's something like somebody who's the trapeze, like the trees are, they essentially go to scam out one of the lead little people that are a group of these people that work at a sideshow, these freaks, so-called freaks. 94 years old, by the way. It's from 1932, yeah. And the movie happens

has an undeniable atmosphere of real dread. It was done by Todd Browning, who also did Dracula. Okay. And it is a, it's a wonderful movie, but one of my favorite things is sort of like, it's kind of about how they're equal to everybody else. Yeah. Like, we're supposed to be quote unquote terrified of the freaks, but

actually the freaks are an extremely loyal family and what they are which is why we like I think it's a precursor like the Fast and the Furious yes very similar I feel like it's also why we like things like the Firefly family from Rob Zombie Films and why we like they're loyal to each other they're loyal to each other they're with children they have something they love each other there's a heart there and there's something about freaks about how especially the guy that plays Hans Harry Earls

When he's this little, little person and this way he does that little statement where he's just like, just because I am small does not mean that I am not a man. And he says it's very powerful. Like he is this powerful little man. Yeah. And the revenge they get is wonderful. And but it was also supposed to be far more graphic. Originally, the strong man was. So if those of you. So spoiler alert.

Freakskill them. Yeah. Right? They turn... Well, they turn the lady, they turn the Grand Dame Cleopatra into a duck woman. They cut her legs and arms off. It's one of probably at the time... Is that killing her or giving her a better, different life? You give me hashtag duck life? You know? And so they...

the end of the movie, it leaves on this picture of the duck woman, which at the time apparently, like, people would run screaming out of the theater. It's great, right? And it's awesome. It's even now haunting. It's kind of silly, but it's also haunting. But apparently, originally, you saw them in their stills. The movie is 65 minutes long. It was originally 90 minutes long. That's

the freaks, this movie was because of the nature of the movie and just straight up. There were two realness of having people with actual, I mean, they barely have sound in movies at this point. Yes. Like it's less than 10 years old. Extremely intense. It's on my list of 1950s or earlier. Cause I've never seen it before. So I'm excited to check it out. It's great. It does hold up and you do recommend. Oh, absolutely. I've never seen it before and I loved it. Yeah. That's great. But,

the very end, the freaks rise up and they get their revenge, but

In the original cut, they had it cut 30 minutes because this movie is what created the rating system in the United States of America for film. Like this car, the haze code, all this stuff was made after this movie came out. And then Terrifier told to shove it up and it's kind of amazing that it's almost like from freaks to Terrifier three. Like think about that. You know, it's almost a hundred years. Yeah. And, uh,

Freaks is got... But the original ending was that the... Apparently, you watch them...

overpower the strongman, which you do see, but then they cut off his dick and balls, and then he, in the end, and then they show you mutilating. Apparently, originally, they mutilated her on camera. Jesus! And then, originally, the ending was him singing castrato in a, uh, this sort of, like, weird side circus, and then you see her as the duck woman. Wow! Which I've never seen real castratos.

I don't think it's a real thing. Yeah, castratos are real. Oh, yeah, it was real. Yeah? Yeah. I do believe there is one piece of evidence of castratos still singing. Yeah. I know eunuchs exist, but they're not necessarily castratos. No. A eunuch is one. A castrato is a eunuch that can go, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. I thought it was, oh.

I guess it depends. It depends on what happened to you. Yeah. Here we go. I got this right here, Mark. I got it right here. A modern castrato, not falsetto. The castrato. That's a dude. That's a dude. Hell yeah. No balls.

Sounds great. I bet, though, I'm going to say it probably sounded great before. Yeah, I mean, what are you going to say? The same thing for the lead singer of Boston? You know what I love is these assignments here. All these comments are my favorite. I've learned so much just from the video and from reading the comments. Wow, his voices are so beautiful. Such a lovely case of turning something many would deem imperfect.

into an advantage. Wow. Incredibly admirable. I would say one thing about the 31 for 31, that I understand that we had to present our list to the fan base and stuff, but I would have liked to build my list as it went. As you go. Yeah, because now I feel like I'm stuck to this fucking list when there's so many other movies I'm excited for that I have to wait until November. Why do you leave some spaces? I always leave a couple of wild card spaces so that I can just add in whatever

as I go along. Here's another comment on the Castrato voice. I see why they did such a practice now. The voice quality is unlike anything else that I've heard before. Oh, thank you. It's just sad the amount of boys who were castrated annually for this. See, I just think it's actually... You know... This is from Mangla Too Cool. Ha ha!

I just feel like the 31 for 31 is kind of nice because it takes away the pressure of having to choose what you're going to watch. Yeah. Because then it's just like, from this list, you got to take something from this list. Thank you for sharing. He has such a beautiful and rich voice. You know what? You're lost in castrato world over here. I will say that I've watched a good amount of movies now, and I've only disliked one of them. What was the one you disliked? The first Hatchet. Oh, you're kidding me.

See, that's so funny because I put... It's dog shit. I put Hatchet on there. We actually probably got people connected to it, which is fine, but I told Eddie, I put Hatchet on there because I thought he'd like Hatchet. Well, Hatchet 2 is a whole other story. It is. The first Hatchet is just

tough to watch. As a comedy fan, as someone who writes comedy and loves horror comedy, being in a sketch group from Murderfest. I don't love horror comedy, so I think that's why I haven't checked this out. But you gotta be good at the comedy as well as the horror if you're gonna do it. Hatchet's silly, but

When you get to Hatchet 2, tell me what you think. I'm excited for Hatchet 2. I've heard nothing but good things about Hatchet 2, and I didn't want to watch it until I saw Hatchet 1. Well, I really like you to do... Because I just figured you'd really like Hatchet. Yeah, also... I figured you'd really like it, so try the sequels. I mean, I don't have a choice. No. Now, I will say a horror comedy I think that we all enjoy is Frankenhooker, though.

I watched that this morning. Frank and Hooker is a fucking classic. I had never seen it before. I pulled it because it was on y'all's list. Because, again, I'm not always that big into horror comedy. It's on Peacock if you want to watch it. It is so much fun. It is an hour and 20 minutes. And it is just tight. It's silly. It's gory. It's fun. And it's rude.

Oh yeah, it's great. It's old school. It's very, very old school, but I think that it holds up. I think that even now in our more enlightened age. I mean, if you get upset about the use of the word hooker, it's not the movie for you. It's a genre flick. Whatever. Exploitation. It was made in 1990. And it's clearly a comedy. It's also an awesome name. And you should be so lucky to call yourself a Franken-hooker.

Yeah. All right, because that's what I think. Please, I'd love to be one. Own it, because also, she's beautiful. Also, I watched Bride of Frankenstein this week. See, I also was really excited for you to see Bride of Frankenstein because it's a gay allegory. I don't see it. That's why you were excited for him? I don't think it's a gay allegory. How? It is. He wanted the woman. He was being forced to be with her. He wasn't being forced. He's sexless. He wanted the woman. He was excited when she shot him.

Frankenstein's monster. So you're saying that he was forced to be cis and this is like his biggest problem? Also, she's not even in the fucking movie. That's because it's old school. Sorry, I'm yelling. Eddie's angry today. So she's not even in the movie. This happened the last time too. He always gets angry when it's the two of us talking about movies and I don't know

why I like to yell I just miss you guys I'm not actually upset I'm just yelling yeah I know we just get scared we get triggered alright sometimes we get triggered Eddie yeah but Brian Frankenstein was good but it's basically Frankenstein the first movie and then at the very end there's a chick yeah

It's fucking pointless. Gay reading. Hell yeah, man. In the decades since its release, modern film scholars such as myself have noted the possible gay interpretations of the film. Director James Whale was openly gay in some of the actors in the cast, including Ernest Thesaker and, according to rumor, Colin Connors.

Clive were respectively gay or bisexual. Screams! I'm glad everyone was gay. Although James Curtis, Whale's biographer, rejects the notion that Whale would have identified with the monster from a homosexual perspective, scholars have perceived a gay subtext suffused throughout the film, especially a camp sensibility, particularly embodied in the character of Pretorius and his relationship with... He's gay! Pretorius is gay! He's just...

He doesn't know where to see it. Well, who cares about him? He's a fucking bad guy. He is the bad guy. We talk about Frankenstein and the Bride of Frankenstein. Yes. Well, the monster and... The monster who's affected for the male hermit and the female bride. He discusses with identical language. Friend has been interpreted as sexually unsettled and bisexual. He's just chilling with the blind guy. Also, Elsa Langeister is a goddess, by the way. He's pure. Yeah.

Frankenstein's monster is pure. Is he? He was just a child. That's how I view him as a child. He wasn't talking too much in this one, too. He is more talkative in this one. I think that Bride of Frankenstein is my favorite of the Frankenstein films. I would like to see whatever the return of Bride of Frankenstein when we actually see her kick some ass. Hmm.

That's what I thought. That's what I was there for. It's not about kicking ass. It's about the love. Allegory about sexuality. The only love that exists in this film is with Dr. Frankenstein and his soon-to-be wife. Indeed. Frankenstein's relationship, Frankenstein's sponsored relationship with their hermit has been interpreted as a same-sex marriage that heterosexual society will not tolerate. No mistake. This is a marriage and a viable one.

But Whale reminds us quickly that society does not approve. The monster, the outsider, was driven from this scene of domestic pleasure by two gun-tooting rubes who happened upon this startling alliance and quickly, instinctively, proceeded to destroy it. But he's saying it with the acento, Eddie. I don't know if that's selling it harder. The creation of the bright scene...

According to cultural critic Gary Morris, it continues, his wails reminded to the audience, his Hollywood bosses, peers, and everyone watching, of the majesty and powerful of the homosexual creator. Also, did you see in the- When's that? I'm sorry, Oscar Isaac? Yeah, it's the new Frankenstein. Yeah, Guillermo del Toro. Who's the monster? Somebody like handsome. Oscar Isaac.

No, he's the doctor. Oh, he is? Whoa, Jacob Elordi? Is Jacob Elordi Frankenstein? Who's Jacob Elordi? He's the big old boy. The one from Saltburn. Big boy from Saltburn. Everybody likes his comedy. He's a very good... Frankenstein should not be that hot.

I hate this. You just hate when pretty people get ugly things. I know, I know. Let them be ugly. He should be the doctor. He should be somebody. He should be Pretorius. Now who's yelling? Now I'm yelling. I feel like this is just the 3131. Why can't it be just ugly? You were never going to be Frankenstein. You were never going to be Frankenstein. He's short. This is called ad hominem attacks. This is not about me.

All right, this is about ugly. I'm talking about uglier, bigger people. This should have been played by, you know who should have played this? Luka Doncic. Luka, or you know who I really would have liked to see do it is Batista. But he's not tall enough. Yeah, he's so thick.

He's like my size. You really don't need anyone who can speak to do these roles. This is what I'm saying, Jackie. He doesn't need to be Jacob Elordi. You're going to cover him in makeup. You need a big old boy. That's all he's doing. That's why Rob Zombie has Tyler Maine. We just watched the Rob Zombie's Halloween 2007. And everyone told me it was horrible. Everyone was like, it's so bad. Halloween 2 is actually my favorite. I

I went into it being like, okay, this Rob Zombie's Halloween. We're not going to enjoy it, but I've never seen it. It's really good. It's great. I actually really enjoyed it, and I understand the issue that a lot of people don't like that they added in a backstory to Michael Myers rather than him just being more just like the pure evil that he is. Also, people don't like that they're all goth and shit, too. They like everyone being pure and then Michael coming and killing the pure people. And being the pure evil. Exactly. That's how I get it.

but like I love it yes I like what Rob Zombie did to it and I know that a lot of people like oh my god how he writes women and stuff like yeah that's like the thing though it's funny it's a trashy horror movie he's specifically writing it in that style he's going off of old

grindhouse films it is specifically to exactly it's grindhouse rather than slasher and again those are two different sometimes genres but also i think that damon leone is taking quite a bit from rob zombies directing style absolutely what i have loved that's why yes what i love about rob zombies films and again we're we're rob zombie apologists on the show we've always been this way that's how we are i like them most people dislike it a lot of people don't like it well they can go fuck

them some. Exactly, Eddie. I know, I know. Exactly, Eddie. But there's something about Damien. I mean, he's made some shit movies. Sure, yeah. He certainly has. I'm not saying in their own ways. His last batch has been rough. His last batch has been rough. But that film, what Damien Leone has done is realized they're extremely good at

Rob Zombie tone shifts awesomely. Like, he does this great thing, especially in the Devil's Rejects world, in that, like, world where he portrays the innocent. The first third of that movie is almost unwatchable, and then the rest of it's a comedy. I love it. I absolutely love it. The Devil's Rejects is probably top five horror films for me. It's one of my favorite horror movies. But the thing about is the way he portrays the innocent is...

funny because he obviously and like he shows contempt for the innocent. He can't wait to kill them. Yeah, he shows contempt for the innocent, which is for us as a viewer, I love. I love as a truly morbid person. Like, Terrifier 3. The monsters was bad. But actually it's in more moments than he deserved. It actually had more good stuff in it. I shut it off. Yeah, no, I finished it. It wasn't that bad. El Super Bisto is unwatchable. Unwatchable. 31 is unwatchable. Yes. But the rest of them are

And then the new one, the sequel, the third, Devil's Rejects was a little rough. Oh my God. But I just feel bad because Sid Haig was so sick. Why did they drag him there? I guess he needed something to do. They were just trying, literally according to Rob Zombie, they were just trying to get him on film one last time. One last time. Sometimes you gotta get someone out of the house. Because also Sid Haig was supposed to be the guy that replaced him. He was supposed to be in the entire movie. Yeah. And then he got replaced. So the whole thing got changed. So that I can understand. But Three from Hell.

Damon Leone does it so well, especially in Terrifier 3, because, like, you know, spoilers, but the whole, like, all of the sentimentality, like, he does this thing where the music kicks in, and it's, like, emotional, and it's, like,

a good drama scene. Like, he's made these, like, a couple things, like, a good, old-fashioned, like, that's a, like... Beautiful family. It reminds me of Elm Street. It reminds me of a thing of, we're caring, you are making me, like... Care about these people. Well, I'm watching all of these tremendously lovely people that I know that are all gonna be fucking tortured. And I'm...

So excited for it. Yeah. As a viewer. I can't wait. And that's what it is. It's almost like when Rob Zombie does it, when Damien Leone does it, it's almost like, you know, they say you put a little salt on a watermelon. Yeah. And that's what makes it taste good. Oh, God. He put a little salt on it. He just reminded me of a scene from Terrifier 2. Oh, yeah. It's good to take the watermelon, you put it in the ocean and eat it that way. That's a good trick. Really?

I got a fun Sid Haig story for you. Tell us the Sid Haig story. So I'm at Montreal Comedy Festival doing warm-up for Roast Battle, the TV show.

And there's a lot of celebrities in the audience. It's like full, like half of the X-Men are there because they were filming in Montreal at the time. It was like crazy. And then as I'm warming up, you know, you're calling them out and shit like that. I see fucking Sid Haig in the audience. And I was like, whoa. I was like, that's the celebrity I want to meet. Fucking Sid Haig. And I was like, give it up for Sid Haig, everybody. You know, like blowing up his spot and shit. And it wasn't him. It was just some ugly dude. Oh!

Well, at least you roasted him real good before the show. It does help. It does help. He's like, at least I look like somebody. That's the thing. No one knows who the fuck Sid Higgins is. Oh, my God. That's sad. They should have. Apparently, he's very nice, though. My husband has him. I know. I know he's dead now. He's dead. He was nice when he was alive, is what I'm saying. Now he's cold. Cold.

And food for the worms. Oh, yeah. But Bride of Frankenstein, it was good. It was fine. But what I did of their classic, we have a classic section. Yes. And I also watched American Werewolf in London. Which I figured you'd love. I've seen it before, but I never finished it because it's so slow. And I always watched it when I was super young. I think I've always fallen asleep while watching it. The end rocks.

So make it so. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah. I loved American werewolf in London. It's funny. It's like got a great story and character development. I can't. Everyone should just go out and make sure they watch that on the 31. Yeah. Also, I do have a correction.

I was wrong on the title of the film that I had entered into our 31 for 31. I need this. I need this. I have redone it because I realized it was not the film that I thought it was. I'm a moron. I've changed it. I'm going to change it officially. We'll put it onto socials. Well, I will say with our 32 movies on our 31 for 31. I forgot. I forgot. Yeah, I know. So you could just take it off. I could just take it off. Um,

But I'm adding the house October built, which I also think is an extremely... Because I added an old found footage section because I'm a bitch for fucking found footage. VHS beyond, bro. I'm going to see it. I haven't seen it yet. I've been waiting. The house is October built is...

Oh, you added it to the list. I did. It's extremely scary. I think it's really good. Is it? I really like it. I also forgot how much I love the original VHS. The original VHS is great, but again, VHS Beyond, because I feel like the last couple of VHSs were not...

I haven't seen any of them. I'm excited for the first one. The best part about anthology movies is that, well, if you don't like it, you'll probably like the next one. And I've liked at least two in every single VHS movie. I saw the wedding scene in VHS, too, and that was pretty fucking cool. Fun! It's a fun one!

It's great. But also, that one has the best binding glue of all of them, the VHS. The original has a really good binding glue in terms of the runner bit. The theme. The theme bit is good. That's why I like VHS Beyond because I didn't know.

anything about it. We just popped it on. I didn't realize it was all alien stories. Oh, I did not know it was all aliens. It's alien stories. And God, Jeff knew the name of the dude that is the through line. Like apparently he's this, you're going to know who he is. It's some big alien dude that does these like interstitials in between. But what I like is that every alien is very different in every section. I think they're getting better at it.

Making these. Justin Long makes a really fun one. It's stuff that you don't expect. And I really enjoyed it. Well, you know, I really like the first one. But also, I put another one of my truly favorite found footage movies on here. Lake Mungo. Yeah. Lake Mungo is fun. Have you ever seen it? Oh, yeah. We did it last year. I haven't gotten to it yet. Lake Mungo has got Twin Peaks vibes. Oh, okay. But it's very good. All right. It's very good. David Scowey.

Very creepy, very scary. I'm very excited for that. You know what? Going back to the anthology horror movies, I like the ones from the 90s. There's two in particular that I watched a bunch growing up that I wish that I'd need. Now I want to re-watch them. Tales of Terror? No, but Tales from the Hood. Yeah, Tales from the Hood is my favorite. And Body Bags. Body Bags is great. It's on Shudder. Oh, is it? I don't have Shudder. It's great. It's worth it. Always. I've been chilling for Shudder forever. But...

Tales from the Hood is my favorite July 4th horror movie. I don't know what it is. There's something about that movie. I've watched it on July 4th almost every year. The soundtrack's great, too, by the way. It's great. There's something about this movie that makes me think of the sins of America. That it is just great. Except for the one time, man, I will say, though. It's movie two.

It's one issue about me choosing the movie is that I have to remember because it's like sometimes I'll choose a movie and I'll be like, everybody's gonna love this. And like we did something we had people over. I was like, let's throw on a movie. And I was like, Tales from the Hood. And I put it on and everyone was sad. Yeah.

Yeah. I forgot that. Oh yeah. People get really sad with this movie too but I was like but it's got the little penny. It's got a little penny in it. Yeah. But it's fun. Which is still one of my favorite side characters of all time that I miss from the 90s as well. Little penny. Yeah you remember a little

penny oh yeah i remember i was an orlando magic fan anthony hardaway oh yeah now that's why there's just certain movies that i love to throw on that are completely mindless now this is my first time going through the so every year we add on a new friday the 13th and i'm gonna be real with you two years ago i had never seen the original friday the 13th so every year we watch the next one so last we watched the second one this year we watched the third one now the third one

You know? It's the worst one. Yeah. It really wasn't as bad as I thought it was. I guess because everyone told me it was the worst one. Then you were prepared for it. He's not even in it. Yeah. No, he is in it.

He's in this one. This is where he gets the mask. Oh, that it's four he's not in. Yes. No, this is the one where he gets the mask for the first time rather than just wearing the hood. So I never realized the origin of the mask. Yeah, there's two movies, no mask. And I really, because this is my first time going through this series, I really thought that, oh, by the time you get to the third one, it's going to be a real stinko, stinko, stinko. And sure, it's mindless. It's not like...

reinventing the Friday the 13th genre. No, it's wait till you get to 7. 7's badass. But I'm excited to go on the journey of like as it goes up and down through time when they're like, yeah, make another one. I guess put another one on. And sometimes I was like, I will say, and this is probably where I get the most flack is that I think the Friday the 13th is my least favorite of the bit top.

Well, because it's clearly a knockoff. Yeah. It's clearly a knockoff of Halloween. I like what Jason ended up being. I like what he got to. I like the later on ones. Yeah, but it's like one day I'll come back to it because it's funny because it's both Natalie and I's least favorite. You ever see the movies that made us of Friday the 13th? No. It's a night. There was a nightmare. Everyone got hurt. Like it was a terrible set. What, the reboot?

No, the original Friday the 13th with Kevin Bacon and shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they have the movies that made us or like the documentaries on Netflix. They have one about that. And it was just like, it was a nightmare to make. Of course, that's great. Yeah, of course. No money fucking out in the middle of the woods. Yeah, just torturing everyone involved. Oh, hell yeah. But again, I do want to say about Friday the 13th Part 3, I was very stoned while I watched it. So it really was...

It helps. Don't, you know, go into it thinking that your life is about to be changed. Okay, yeah, that's Jason Lives? No, this is Friday the 13th, part three. What's the tag, though? It's just part three. Oh, it is Jason Lives. Oh, it is Jason? Oh, no, it is part three. Oh, man, that's like...

and that's why it's good to do because like you never know the gems inside of the franchise. You know what? It's like Hellraiser. Hellraiser is my favorite. It's my favorite of all the franchises. Yeah. Because I like the bad ones too. I'm a Hellraiser 3 stan. Ooh.

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Well, I'm also excited. This is a movie I remember the VHS cover and they did a reboot of it and I haven't seen that either. Do you remember the movie Cube? Yes. From the 90s. Cube's bad. I remember gleaming the cube. That was like an action movie. Oh, that was an action movie. Cube is not as good as you remember it. So I remember the VHS cover. It's all talking. That's what you forget. You forget about it.

about cube because I went to go rewatch it and I was like tired or whatever and it's you're like oh yeah because the fucking all of the visual elements of cube are awesome and you're like oh it's gonna be scary is it not just it's hard to find good every year because you know we do 50s or earlier 60s 70s 90s and we do all of it 90s every year I'm just like sometimes they are real hit and miss because I see don't get me wrong you can always watch like scream again you can watch

13 Ghosts. I want to watch new ones, though. I'm trying to find ones that I've never seen. I think that, Jackie... But there's usually a reason why you haven't seen them. Yes, and you've seen quite a bit of horror films. I was talking to Julie about this this week, where we were just talking about horror movies in general, and she was like... She asked a very interesting question, which I'm going to pose to you, and then I'll ask the question from Julie to me, and I'll answer it for me, but I want to hear your all's answers. She asked me... I'm Julie.

Well, you don't know the question. I'm Eddie. Am I Eddie? I'm Julie. I'm both. You are you. I'm Julie. You'll leave my wife out of it. You can say whatever you want about me. No, but she asked me, which horror movie have you seen that you wish you wrote?

Oh my God. All of them. But I couldn't help. I really, I sat there and I thought about it. And I think the horror movie I wish I wrote that I liked the most, in a weird way, Tales from the Crypt Demon Knight.

Yeah, I like it. That's a good one. Really? You're not overshooting it? No, it's hilarious. You're not being like, I wish I wrote Hereditary? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not overshooting it? That makes sense. Because honestly, first thought that came to my mind, Psycho Goreman. I love Psycho Goreman. They've got a new one.

They've got to do it. Oh my God. I love Psycho Gorman. And I love just like that. Talk about a horror comedy that does it right. That is so like, I guess it's more a sci-fi comedy than. It's pretty hard. Yeah. But there's also horror elements to it. They're ripping people apart. My, my honest opinion is that if there was one, I wish I could write is something in the style basically of the ring. Yeah. Ooh. Something simple. Something just. That's my cue is that if you're going to be scary, you're going to be scary.

It's so scary. It's so hard. Yeah. Scary is so like, it's just like funny. It's entirely subjective. Pretty much. Like you, you are, do you, everybody has their own parameters where they find scary or, or what are not whatnot. And it's also like, it's about timing and it's about, um,

How do I deliver this idea so simply into the person's brain? You know what I mean? That's what dread is. Dread is like... It's weird how dread in films...

It's off by inches. You can tell why when I'm watching David Lynch. Oh, dread is the emotion. Locked in. I was thinking of dread, the movie. The movie dread. When I'm watching David Lynch, there's something about the way. It's literally about the composition of the shot and the timing and the atmosphere that he knows technically that allows you to feel this sense of freedom.

thick, purposeful dread. But you can tell the difference between the movies that are dreadful and extremely boring. But I don't quite know what that difference is, but you know that it's a difference. And it's different for everybody too. It does. It's entirely subjective, but I mostly find that people who don't have budgets think that they can pull off dread and they don't understand that

Dread is probably one of the most complex filmic elements of the horror genre. And what you do with less. I actually was thinking about, I just saw that it's open for streaming. I talked about it in the last one that we did talking about horror movies. Oddity. That's another movie that like, I feel like for some people might come off as boring, but I was so like wrapped.

the entire time. Depends on the movie. The dread that was created from it that I thought was like really creepy imagery, very unsettling. The movie that I always think of as the biggest failure in that is that, what was the one with Harry Potter? That stupid garbage horror movie that he did? No, not Tusk. That's the Kevin Smith movie. It was like the Black House...

I didn't bother with it. It's like those type of movies. It's kind of how I felt about, unfortunately, it's how I felt about The Shape of Water. Oh, I love The Shape of Water. But it doesn't need dread. It's whimsical. And then also, unfortunately, Keanu Del Toro's other movie, the gothic horror that he did, where I was just... Pan's Labyrinth?

No, not that one. Not horns. Not horns. Not horns. Horns is good. Oh, yeah? That's what I was thinking, though, of Tusk, though. That's why I was thinking. No, horns is good. The one that he did. The one where he has to staple the guns to his hands? It's like he goes to. Guns a Kimbo? No, Guns a Kimbo is good. That's hot. There's one where he was like, it's like he's in front of a house. And they're like, it's sad in there. I was a ghost in that house. Do you know what? The Woman in Black. That movie fucking sucks dick. Yeah. Yeah.

Just literally looking through Daniel Radcliffe movies. That's the movie sucks dick. That's the movie sucks dick. Well, you know what I find? I like Daniel Radcliffe. I do too. I love him as an actor. I think he's doing great shit. I love his work. I just think that that movie, it's not, that was not his fault. I'm just showing that's an example of a movie that thinks it's dreadful, but it's just boring. You know what movie's fucking dreadful? It Follows. Right.

That's exactly, that is the ultimate definition. I did one, I actually said, have you ever done that with like a comedy or even with any one of these movies where I've always watched a movie, that movie always freaked me out. I love It Follows. And then the last time I watched it, I'm sitting watching it and I'm just like, it's just a naked old man far away. Yeah. And then I realized it like broke. I know, but it like broke the movie for me when I was just like,

That's just a guy over there walking. Well, you can say that about any ghost. I know, I know, but it was like, I ruined it. You ever do that where it like ruined it for myself just for that night? Yeah, I get that. Where I'm like sitting and watching it. I was just being like. Well, it's like The Shining. The first time you see the bear giving the dude a blowjob, it's terrifying. Now it's fun. Now I like it. Yeah, now it's like, I want to. Look at him getting his. I want to know him.

You don't want to hang out with him. Yeah, dude. I want him to have a show in the network. All right, so what on our list have you not seen that you're most excited for? The thing that I'm saving towards the end are Gungeum, Haunted Asylum, and I am saving Nuroi, The Curse, which is also wonderful. I'm also saving, this weekend, we're going to bang some out. Ready? We're going to go to your house. We're going to probably do, I'd say we do these franchises. I'm going to watch some tonight.

I want to do Elm Street together and I want to do Halloween 6 together. I'm really excited for Blood Diner. I've owned the DVD for like a decade and never watched it. Also, what's nice is that, and you like Jennifer's Body too, right? I love Jennifer's Body. I thought for sure I was going to hate it. That's why I haven't seen it. It wasn't like I was scared or anything. It seemed awful. It got bad reviews. I was like, fuck this movie. Fuck Juno. It was great. I hated Juno. I hated Juno.

I felt famously I hated you about the Terrifier series that I was like, I'm not going to like it. It's not for me. And then sometimes you just got to check it out. And you're like, damn, wow. And that's the lesson we're going to leave you with tonight. Yeah. It's OK to dislike some horror movies, horror movies. You it's it's the only genre of film that if it's a bad one, I'm not mad that I watched it. Same, same, same. Well, I also kind of feel like that with action movies, but that's different. You know, I mean, that's just a good time. But yeah, but I want to leave you with this is that I think it's important. No VHS unturned.

So if you go out there and you're afraid to see a movie, you don't know what's in it. It might be the best thing you ever see. You have no idea that you have no idea that you haven't seen your favorite movie yet. Yeah. But also highly recommend Shudder because Shudder is a great app to just, and it takes a chance. It's got so many great in,

Andy weird horror movies. This is why you two know so much more than I. Oh, yeah. Walter just constantly, it's all I watch. I just love horror movies. I don't watch television. I don't watch anything else. I don't watch the news. I don't watch anything but horror movies and YouTube. Also, I'm going to say I'm very upset. I'm destroyed. I have a 14-year-old's brain. Apparently, the reboot of, I guess, is it a reboot? Remake of Speak No Evil apparently is really good, and I, on principle, didn't want to go see it. No, it's not good. It's supposed to not be good. Rob says it's not good. Because it's got all these insane.

They're lying to us. It has to be lies. It has to be lies. Sometimes movies... You've seen the trailer, you've seen the movie. I know, that's the thing. And I love the original and I don't want to see... I mean, I like James McAvoy, but I don't know if I need to see it. You know what had great reviews that I thought was fucking doo-doo? Was that new serial killer movie.

Strange Darling. Oh, you were talking about this. I haven't seen it yet. Cock-a-poo-poo, in my opinion. I'll watch it at some point. Yeah, it's the new, everyone's like, oh, the twist! Oh, I liked it. It's just like one of those things that goes like salt burn is like, they're like trying to impress me with how edgy they are, and I'm like, I've

seen it. I understand, but that's me. To me, that's when I get my... Still effective, though. That's me when I get to my most boomer. When I'm yelling about, like, we did it ten years ago! I like trains, Charlie. Every single time I see, like, offensive comedy where it's like, we did it already, you know what I mean? But I also understand. Yeah. It's time for people to find new things, and there's always a shot. They did try something, I will say that. I just, I've got such a soft spot for any horror movie that's like, well, you know, they're trying to hit it out of the park, and it was an hour

and a half, and I didn't look at the time the entire time. I mostly just like to see that they're trying. So go. You didn't do Joker. Oh, we didn't do Joker. Is Joker a movie? Is it just a movie? So right before we talk about this, this is my one statement on Joker 2. I'm going to say this right now. Spoilers a little bit. Joker 2 seems to be made upon the premise that everybody who's sort of like Joker 1, which is everybody, according to them, went to go see Joker 1. I did not participate.

particularly enjoy Joker 1. I like Joker 1. I felt that it was a rip-off of The King of Comedy. It was. And the reason why I went to go see it was because it had the words The Joker in it and it had Joaquin Phoenix playing The Joker and I just wanted to see what that was. I was disappointed with what it was in the end. And then in the end, what it seems that Todd Phillips has decided is that Joker 2 is a response to those people that like Joker for he considers to be the wrong reasons and then that's the reason why they punish The Joker throughout the entire film and then they

rape him until he's not the Joker anymore, which is the single worst lesson I've seen in a film. It'd be like if the end of the Joseph Fritzl story, if Elizabeth was like, you know what, actually, I miss my dad. And so it is not like... It is fun to watch a troll troll trolls. But do it on your own time. Do it on Twitter, like everybody else. Because you spent $200 million that should have went to North Carolina. Also, that movie did not...

$200 million to be made. It did at least in 52 for Joaquin, Lady Gaga, and Todd Phillips. And then the rest of it, I don't know where the hell it went. Just the fact that, I mean, again, spoiler, spoiler, spoiler, you can skip this. Skip, skip, skip, skip. But it's just like the fact that she wasn't the one that bombed

them in the end was the dumbest shit. That didn't make any sense. The baby plotline went fucking absolutely nowhere. He didn't smile at the end. The idea of like, now Todd Phillips is trying to say the ending showed that he had acceptance about dying. He's like, no he didn't. He looked upset. And then the stupid Heath Ledger Easter egg. He got passed off.

Yeah, it's the dumbest shit I've ever seen. All of the constant, like, the constant, like, it's also like, if you're going to have songs, be a fucking musical. If you can spend $200 million, hire some fucking actors and some fucking instruments. And also don't hire Lady Gaga and tell her not to sing. And then have them just whisper sing. And this is my thing. They didn't even have a big musical number. Do something different with some of the songs. Try a new song.

Try something with one of the songs. Try something else with one of the fucking songs. I did like that they used The Joker by Sammy Davis Jr. I was real mad that that song wasn't in the first movie. It sounds like they went to, that movie sounded like they went to Wikipedia and said, what are songs that have clowns in it? And then they just kind of put it in things. It's just, uh-oh. Look who's angry now. Sometimes you just got to calm down, Henry. Think about Pearl. Pearl was one of the most expertly made sequels I've ever seen. I don't like it.

Listen to them, Henry. Maxine was far superior. I loved Ike Emoto. But I'm at peace with Eddie's opinions. Wow. This is America. Yes, right? And you meditate and think about that. And I don't, nor should I.

Eddie for his belief. Good for you, Henry. We've grown a lot this year. I really have. I really, really have. So thank you guys so much. Henry has grown a lot. Well, yeah, sideways, yeah. Yeah, it's mid-second, yeah. Yeah, Eddie. Yeah, Eddie. How can I break this cycle of pain? Maybe if a bunch of cops come and rape Eddie, he'll stop making fun of me. Oh, Joker, do it. We gotta get Eddie. That would be sex, not rape, because I love it.

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