#534 - Gone Like A Ghost - Pocomoke City, Maryland
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to Small Town Murder Express. Yay! Choo-choo! Oh, yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you, folks, so much for joining us today. We have some wild stuff for you coming out of Maryland.

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Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this, everybody. Okay. Let's go on a trip, shall we? Let's go. Let's go. We're going to Maryland this week. Yeah. Which, I don't know, people go, oh, well, there's Baltimore. And then they don't know much about the rest of it, really. There's Annapolis.

Yeah, that's the capital. But I mean, what goes on there? Nobody knows. We don't know. We're not allowed to know shit. This is Pocomoke City, Maryland. Now, some pronunciations said it was Pocomoke. That had bad reviews, though, that pronunciation.

It did. It had like two stars. But then a five-star review is Pocomoke. That's the five-star review. So we're going with that one. This is in southern Maryland. We're going to call this Panhandle Country. Sure. It's coming down a little peninsula. And the way this little peninsula goes is Maryland has like three-quarters of it. And then the last little tip.

It belongs to Virginia for some reason, even though it's well off the shore of Virginia. So it's right above that. It's close to there. It's near Ocean City. It's about two and a half hours to Baltimore and about two hours to Cape St. Clair, Maryland, which is our last Maryland episode, Adopting Murder. That was a fun one. Go ahead and do that.

So the population here, 4,295. Not a big place. No. And it's a pretty rural area that we're going to talk about today. Median household income here, well below the national average. Right.

at $45,781. Oh. Well, almost $25,000 below the national average. And it is cold. How do you afford it? It's chilly. Median home price also low, though. That's helpful. $178,500. Okay. Very low. And the motto here is, the friendliest town on the eastern shore.

You know, the whole Eastern Shore could count everything. Show me the map. The other motto should be, I mean, our competition is Jersey, so...

That should be the other part of the motto here. History here. It started in the late 17th century, so way back there, 1600s. A small settlement called Stevens Landing, sometimes called Stevens Ferry, grew at the landing on the south bank of the Pocomoke River. Or Pocomoke River, sorry. Five stars on Pocomoke.

The town was incorporated in 1865 as Newtown. Yeah. And then they reincorporated it in 1878 as Pocomoke City after the American Indian name of the river, meaning black water. Okay. Which is just how you want your river to be, black and dirty. That's perfect. Yeah.

But I do like an ode to Native American thing. That's nice. Yeah, they do that a lot. That's good. In 1922, the business district of Pocomoke City was destroyed due to a large fire, of course, as everything pre-1930 at one point was ashes. Yeah.

On one side of town, it continued up to the church on 3rd Street. Jesus. It really torched the place. They rebuilt downtown pretty quickly, though. I guess farming was declining during the 1900s here, but the poultry industry rose to take its place.

And then also you can get jobs for the Navy around here, the Coast Guard and NASA as well. So there's places to work. Pocomoke City was named an All-America City by the National Municipal League.

which sounds like 12 blue-haired old ladies judging other people's towns. What the fuck is that? No interest in that shit. That was for the years 1984 and 85. Back then they had it. 40 years ago it was a good place, apparently. Not sure now. We don't know, but I know people who do know. Tell me who. Some people leaving reviews. They know, so let's find out from them.

Number one, four stars. I love the small town home-like feeling, although sometimes it gets annoying that everyone knows everyone because of how fast rumors can spread. This is exactly, this is some small town shit here that they're talking about. I mean, it's nice, but people gossiping, talking about me behind my back all the time. You could just, yeah. We have a lot of people who care about each other, which is great.

But we also have those who think they are better than everyone else. Oh, is that? Okay. And that really makes the environment change. Sure. Yeah. That's where the warming's coming from. You get 10 people together, one person thinks they're better than everybody else. Next thing you know, glaciers are melting at the North Pole. Polar bears are floating off on little... That happens.

There's a lot of support in the school system and in the community events, but there's not much to do for teenagers, really any age kids in town, which often leads to kids getting in trouble and roaming the streets. That's almost like parents should be watching them and telling them where to go. I wish we had more opportunities to get together with friends, but also wish that there was more activities to do throughout town. Okay. Three stars. I've lived in this town my whole life, and I love this place only for certain reasons.

What are they? Well, maybe they'll tell us. Let's find out. I also dislike it for certain reasons as well. Sadly, sadly, there are a lot of people here that can be very disrespectful and dangerous, but not all.

The safety of this town is not as handled, but not all the time it is great. What? That's such a weird syntax to that shit. Boy, if you don't give one fucking example of any thought you have. Nothing. Got nothing. It's such a small town, but it does have a lot of meaning and cultural knowledge. What does that even mean? I don't know what that means. It's got meaning. Also, it's my hometown, so I'll always call it home. What?

Imagine having a full conversation with that person. This is the most frustrating motherfucker I've ever heard of. How frustrated you'd be with that person. And then two stars. The area might be better for more like a transition, but could be better elsewhere. That's the whole review. I have no idea what you're talking about. No one does. Transitioning what? It could be a lot of things.

That's a lot of different things. To a different place, to another job, becoming a woman. What are we talking about? Out of prison. That's possible, too. Things to do. The Great Pocomoke Fair. Yeah. There you go. You got a fair. I'll give you some of the events here. You got the livestock load-in. That's exciting. Sure, yeah. The Little Miss pageant, of course. The Rap Battle walk-ins.

They're going to rap battle? They're going to have rap battles, I guess. In Maryland. That is, by the way, at 5 p.m. is the Little Miss pageant. At 5.30 is the rap battle. And at 6 o'clock is the Junior Miss pageant.

So right in between children's beauty competitions, we're going to have a rap battle, apparently. Okay. How many times does a Dungeness or a blue crab get mentioned in those raps? Jesus, yeah. No shit. Half of them are that, probably, I'm sure. I'm going to steam you like a crab. Crack you like a crab, motherfucker. Now what?

The all dirt drags, all truck dirt drags. We have that dragging dirt. There's a mural painting. I'm sure it's drag racing in the dirt. I'm sure. I'm sure. But the way they say it makes it sound like you're dragging dirt. Look at his dirt's the flattest. It's perfect. Look at him drag it. Look at it. There is a creations chainsaw carving show, a hog show, dairy cow fitting.

It's hard to find good bras for dairy cows. They have to have fittings every once in a while. Can't find them. Utter cup. Then there's the beef cow show. Yeah. As opposed to the poultry cow show. That's good. There's followed by a karate and judo demonstration. This shit makes no sense whatsoever. Whatsoever. None. All about dance performance. Bull ride mania.

Yeah. Okay. And then cornhole tournament, obviously a Chinese auction. Oh, are we auctioning things off in Chinese? Are we auctioning off Chinese people? What are we auctioning? We have lots of the Chinese to auction off today.

I mean, they're small, but they work hard. This fella here. Then there's a pygmy slash mini goat show. Yeah. Sheep fitting and showing in their nicest evening wear. I assume that can be a tug of war, which I hope has a rope involved.

A cake auction. Okay. Just auctioning off some cake. A chainsaw carving auction. Praise at the fair. The Barnyard Olympics, which sounds so much fun. Oh, I want to see a pig fucking fly. Oh, man. I want to see all that shit. I can't wait to see the Barnyard Olympics. A pig triple jump. I want to see cow diving is the event that I'm into. I really want to see the splash they make. That'll be good.

That said... They just fucking prod them off the hot dog. That's hilarious. That said, let's talk about some murder. What do you say, Gary? Because I could talk about that fair all fucking day. Especially the Olympics. There's events I didn't even mention, so it's awesome.

I just don't have the time. Let's go back in time to 2007 here. Okay. So not real far back. 2007. We'll talk about a young woman first here. This is Christine Marie Shetty. Okay. And she is born December 22nd, 1980. So for 98% of...

2007, she's 27 years old. She is a mother of three here. Two of her kids are ages two and four at this point in time. Youngins. Youngins. And then she has another one that I don't know where that other one is. Everyone keeps saying she's a mother of three, but everyone always talks about these

two specific kids and where they were during all this. So I'm not sure about exactly where they go. Um, but we know she has two sons and a daughter. Um, she's small, young woman here. She's five foot, 300 pounds light, light and tiny. So, uh, she is a stay at home mother with the three kids. She helps. She lives with her mother, uh,

And helps. They have a family business that they run. Her family. So she helps with the family business while she's watching the kids. She does office work and, you know, whatever needs to be done as to get the shit done here. So she lives with her mom. Lynn Dodenhoff is her mom. And, uh,

Her mom describes Christine as follows here. Christine is a very outgoing, outspoken young woman. She was a really good mom, a single mom, and there's issues like with any single mom. She wasn't perfect ever, but she's a good-hearted person. She would do anything for you.

Yeah. It sounds like basically, and if I could infer some stuff here. Sure. From what Lynn, the way she describes, it sounds like Christine probably was a troubled teenager. Mm-hmm.

You know, she's got three kids by 26 in 2007, and I don't think that they were planned. You know what I mean? So I think maybe she's had some trouble in the past, and now she's a single mom who's trying to get it all together and, you know, be a mom and be a good mom and do all that stuff. So that's what it kind of sounds like. Maybe has some hard opinions, maybe a little doubt. Yeah.

Moody or not moody, but, you know, she's I feel like she's definitely an opinionated person. And and she's not shy. She's lived some shit. So she's got some opinions about things. That's what I mean. And she's not shy at all. In 2007 here in late 2007, she's going to move out of her mom's house because she has some some fighting with her mom. So apparently she moves in with a friend of hers named Tia Lynn Johnson.

So Tia is her friend. She's going to move in with Tia. And I guess Christine and her mom had a minor fight. And then Christine and her kids took off for Pocomoke City here. Yeah. In early. Yeah. They had to go live with Tia. And her mom, Lynn, said being 26 years old and having to live under our rules, there was a little bit of tension. Yeah.

Yeah, that's not easy to do. Look, I'm a mom. I got three kids. I don't need you to tell me what to do. Especially if you've moved out and now come back. Like, you've lived on your own and had your own rules, and now you're back in mom and dad. That's hard. That's got to be difficult to do here. Yeah, when you move back in, you kind of...

It's almost like you've got to give up some of that freedom and be like, yeah, I didn't do very well with it, so here I am again. You have to come back humble. That's how it is. It sucks, though. That humility is not easy. No, Tia is her age. She's about six months younger than Christine, or six months older. I'm sorry. Tia had a tough upbringing here as well. Tia has had it rough in her life. She had to wear a back brace all through school. Oh, fuck.

Oh, fuck. So just like Dee in Always Sunny, basically. She was the monster. Yeah. What was it? The... What the hell did they call it? Aluminum monster. Aluminum monster. There you go. I'm like, some sort of monster. Not steel. Yeah.

So, yeah, she had to wear the back brace the whole time. And this was, you know, she went to school in the 90s. So she was teased unmercifully. Oh, my. I mean, this is not an hour of kids would be like, hey, come on. She's fucking hurt. Be nice to her. Like back then, the kids were like, yeah, they'd stick magnets to her and shit. That was terrible. So Tia's had some issues. Now, after Christine, I guess Christine had an argument with.

with her parents over how much milk one of her sons was drinking. That's what spurred the move out. I don't know if mom thought the kid wasn't getting enough calcium or if grandma was complaining that the kid drank too much milk. I'm not sure.

We're going through so much milk. It's got to be that, right? When you have your son, daughter, whatever, living there and they're bringing three children, you're going to expect the milk to really go through the roof. Your milk output is crazy. You're going to go through a lot of milk today. At my house, we go through, like, I can't even finish a half a gallon of milk. I throw out the last quarter of it because it goes bad because I just don't drink that much milk. I have cereal or whatever. But, you know, when my kids were little, it was like,

Every two days, a gallon of milk. Yeah. Oh, God, forget it. And when I was a kid, we'd go through a gallon of milk in a day because you got cereal in the morning and you drink it too. I never drank it, but I always put it in. I fucking hate to drink milk. It's disgusting. Okay, well.

I can't drink milk. I'll drink chocolate milk or if I could put it in something, like one of those strawberry instant breakfasts or something. Those are terrific. I could fucking love those. Yeah. I don't mind milk-based things, but to drink straight milk, I just can't do it. It's fucking weird to me. They've got a new milk that, I don't know if it's new milk, but it lasts so long. I question it. It lasts so long? It lasts like a month. Oh, you mean...

You know what I mean? It sticks around so long. You mean expiration-wise. I'm so stupid. I thought, like, I poured, like, five glasses, and it's still, like, barely even, in my mind, like, it was a regenerating milk. I'm drinking it, but it just keeps going. It just keeps going. I think that might be you, bro. I think you're out of your mind. Like, I was really, like, questioning your sanity. I don't think you're drinking this milk, Jimmy.

And you're talking about something way more normal than what I'm talking about. I don't know why it lasts so long, and I question it because that feels weird. Like there's preservatives in it that shouldn't be there? It's not curdling, man. That's weird. It can sit in my fridge for a month. Oh, that's not right. A month. I don't want that. I want my milk to go bad quickly. Very perishable. Yeah, there's sometimes at the store when you grab the jug and it's like, this expires tomorrow? That's fast, isn't it? I like my beer cold.

I like my women sexy. And I like my milk curdling quickly. Those are the things I like in this world. I'm a simple man. I'm a simple man.

So, apparently here, she moves in, and Tia's not the only one who lives there. They're going to move into a farmhouse on Bird Road outside of Pocomoke City. This is a 2900 block of Bird Road. So, apparently Lynn is picked up in a car by Tia Johnson and Tia's boyfriend, Clarence Butch Jackson. May as well. Who goes by the name Junior. That's what's happening.

His middle name is really Butch. His middle name is Butch, and he's like, that's not hillbilly enough. How about Junior? Call me, just call me Junior, even though that's not even in my fucking name. That's fine. They all do in a bitch. Wow. But not even Junior is spelled out. Junior. Junior's born June 26, 1974, so he's a few years older than everybody in this little conglomerate here. Now, the house they're going to move into, not the...

this is not a house that children should be living in. Probably. It's not a house. That's a, it's a flop house for underachieving people in their twenties is basically how this works. It's not farmhouse in that it's the fucking fashion that it's not rated in. It's an old farmhouse. It's cheap. Cause it's in the middle of nowhere. That's what it is. Exactly. Yeah. There's no farming going on at this house whatsoever. It's a farm style house, but it's not the chic, uh,

They don't have a zucchini garden out back. That's not going on. I don't think. There's not a lot of shiplap in this motherfucker. Yeah, they're not raising pigs for the circus or the carnival or whatever. Fair, yeah. So they lived, the one woman who lived across the street, Carol Morrison is her name. She said that the house was in poor shape. She said, quote, there was no water.

No water. Running water. You can't have... It's not a house. And another guy's going to move in. There's four adults living in a house with no running water. That's not a house. And those people aren't adults. No, that's a shelter. That's just shelter from the cold. That's all that is. That's all that is. It's a lean-to at that point. And only part of the house had electricity because the house was fucked up. So only part of the house has electricity. Yeah.

Oh, boy. Shall we go into the lighted part of the house tonight? Right. Well, why don't we? Let's live a little. The frightening part is that that's probably because something ate the wires elsewhere. I'm sure. You know what I mean? Yeah. Those shits are still hot somewhere. Oh. That's so scary. It's a fire hazard. I'm sure. It's all going to burn.

So, but I guess Christine didn't have any other place to go. And her friend offered her, because she said, I can't stay here anymore. I can't take it anymore. And I think her friend just said, well, you can stay with me. And it was a place to go and kind of, I guess, collect herself. You know what I mean? You can camp with us. Yeah. And I've lived in, I've stayed with people in shitty places like this. Maybe not that shitty. We had running water. The toilets worked. I'm not staying somewhere where the toilet doesn't work. No, no. Shit buckets are, that's where I draw the line. It's got to leave.

That's where I draw. When I flush that toilet, I want poop to go away. Period. It's got to go. That is minimum. So I guess during this time...

Tia Johnson, by the way, has two children as well that are living here. That's why it's okay. So there's two children here that she's got that are living here. And there's another guy named Justin Michael Hadle. He's born in 1990. So he is 10 years younger than the girls. He's 17 years old while this is going on. That's a minor. He's Tia Johnson's cousin.

Okay. He's Tia Johnson's cousin, and apparently he is at the house frequently. He'll always come in and go, and he'll end up basically just living there. And they said... The neighbor said she never really saw Christine coming or going or doing anything once she moved in. She just was there, I guess. Either in or out. One of the two. So Justin Michael Hadle here, this guy, he's living at the house. So you got four adults living there and two kids. Now, the weird part is...

is Christine's kids seem to be staying with her mom. So Christine takes off and the kids stay in the place with running water, which is good. Yeah. But the kids are still drinking the milk. Yeah, that's the solution to the... Yeah. Okay.

So that's what I mean. I feel like Christine's had some issues with her mom and there's been some family problems. It's what it sounds like. And her mom wants there to be no problems. And it seems like Christine is a bit rebellious, we'll say. The only person that has the solution fixed there is Christine because now she doesn't have to listen to her mom bitch about the milk going away. Exactly. No shit. So now she can just tune it out. So November 13th, 2007.

Christine is seen in the area of Bird Road here at the house and around the house. Her two sons, ages two and four, were staying with her mother. I don't know where her daughter is at this point. No clue. But she's staying there, staying with her mother, Lynn, at her Bowers Beach home.

And then Christine told her mother she was visiting a couple she met through her ex-boyfriend, who was also the father of these children, these two boys. That's who Tia is to her. She met him through there. Now, so she did all of this and.

I guess what they say is that Christine was at the house this day on November 13th. And then Tia and Hadle and Jackson, all of these people, junior there, all of these people say they went to pick up Tia's kids from school. And when they got back, Christine was gone. She was just gone. That was that. Now, there is conflicting, by the way, information of where her kids are.

There is information that says when they got back, Christine's kids were home alone, two and four years old. At the no electricity house? No electricity house. Then there's also renditions of this that say that the kids were still with Lynn at this point. Then there's at first there was a renditions that were saying that the kids were with the kid's father.

So we have three different places where the kids are possibly being. But the only thing we know for sure is that they are not with Christine there. They were not with Christine at this point because Christine is gone now. I think it might be that her boys are at the house at this point because that would make sense for something that happens later. So Justin Hadle, the 17 year old, is the one who calls Lynn to inform her that we can't find Christine. Have you seen her? And he said, I already reported her missing to the police. Do you know where she is? Maybe.

So that's how that goes. So the police get involved here. And we have Detective Robert Troutman of the Worcester County Bureau of Investigation. And they said they were expanding their search to Delaware and Virginia as well to look for her because they can't find her. They said they don't suspect foul play at this point because they just think that Christine took off somewhere because she's done that before. So they said...

We're looking into everything, though. You never know, but we don't suspect foul play. They first talk to her ex-boyfriend and say, do you know where she is? Since you're A, the father of the kids, and B, you're the one that you guys have been fighting or whatever, your exes. And he said, I don't know where she is. And he has a rock solid alibi. He was like with 40 people the entire day. Yeah.

OK, no way he's any way involved with any kind of disappearance. So they said, OK, he's immediately out. But the ex-boyfriend told police that he had Christine's journal. OK. Yeah. Which showed multiple numbers of adoption agencies.

She had written down a bunch of adoption agency numbers. And that, from what I understand, that is not to adopt more kids. That's to get hers out. That's to possibly give away one of hers. Or I don't know if maybe that's where the daughter is. I'm not going to make any assumptions there. But she has a bunch of adoption agency numbers in there. And that's what he shows the police.

So they continue to search for her and her family, Lynn and her, you know, the whole family put up a $5,000 reward for information that will find her. They think she just took off. So the sergeant of the Worcester County Bureau of Investigation said, we continue to get calls and information. We're trying to track down everything so we can get to her. So they're trying to find her at this point.

They decide Christine is not missing. Christine has abandoned her children. That's what the police decide. Oh, boy. They decide so much that there's no foul play that they are charging her with a crime now. Neglect and abandonment of children. They can't find her, so they charge her with child abandonment.

They absolutely do. Now, her mother, Christine, is like bullshit. Like Christine may be things and she may be this and that, but she's never going to abandon her kids and run away. That's never happened. That's Lynn. That's Lynn, the mom saying that. She's not running away. If she left the kids with me, they're with me. She cares about her kids. Yeah, she's a good mom and gives a shit about her kids and doesn't just leave them and take the fuck off and not tell anyone where she's going.

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Two charges. Court filed charges where she had a court date for, you know, a little while later. So, yeah, she's gone. They charge her on the 13th of November. So she's gone for two weeks and they charge her with this. So they want to find her to arrest her at this point. No kidding. So the case, they talk to Tia and they talk to Junior. They talk to Justin Hadle. They talk to everyone else, the ex-boyfriend, everyone that she might be in contact with.

Nobody seems to know anything about where she is. Nobody's got a thing. Her parents, her friends, their roommates, nobody. So at that point, they just stop looking for her pretty much.

Oh, my God. I mean, it's like if you find her, there's a missing poster and all that sort of thing. It's like if you find her, let us know. We'd love to arrest her. We'd love to put her in prison if you find her. So that'd be great if we could put her in cuffs. So Lynn decides, no, my daughter's missing. She's not just a fucking flaky mom who abandons her kids. I'm going to find my fucking daughter, which she's a good mom, Lynn. Who the hell wouldn't do that? Right. So Lynn takes it upon herself to search for her.

Christine all the time. She said she went as far as assuming that she said she must be dead if she's gone this long. She's got to be dead or kidnapped or being held somewhere. So Lynn went as far as to research various states of decomposition in an attempt to inform her search. Like basically, if I find her now, she'll be in this state. This is what I should be looking for.

Lynn's got a really fucked up Google search now. Dark turn of mind, Lynn. Oh, my. Yeah. Lynn's search history is like mine at this point. It's creepy. It's not good.

If I'm ever accused of anything and they look at my search history, I am fucking done. I look at the weirdest shit because I have to. Weird psychological shit for why did this person do this? Like who the hell, what normal person has that shit on their thing? So anyway, six weeks after the disappearance, so it's December, it's coming up and I think this coincides just with Christine's birthday as well, December 22nd. She disappeared the end of October. So six weeks later, her

Her mom, or her aunt actually, decides to call a couple of psychics to help because the cops aren't helping. And if you're not a person, if your business isn't finding people, it's hard to find people if you're not a detective. So they call in the psychics. This is Karen Hurley, the aunt, reaches out to a pair of sisters who say they have psychic abilities here. Okay.

Okay, I guess this woman had a family connection who worked with the psychics on another case in Pittsburgh. So she makes the call. This is Suzanne Vincent and Jean McKenzie Vincent. They are the quote-unquote psychic sisters.

So they're in their early 50s at the time. Yeah, still working because they somehow don't have enough to know the lottery number. To know any of that, to know a good stock fucking. They didn't know to invest early in Microsoft. They had no idea. Nothing. So they work as a team, this team here. Suzanne hears things and Gene gets visions. Oh, yeah.

One person gets audio, one person gets video, and they have to sync up the fucking feeds at some point and figure out how this goes together, which is wild. I guess Jean, they say, or she says, I would say, they say because she says that her visions are like watching a movie. She just sees everything happening. They say their gift is ever present. It can't ever be turned off.

And auras are around them at all times. They're just constantly seeing this stuff. They can't stop it. It's a gift and a curse. It's terrible. So Gene said that many people have this gift. And like musicians, some have strong innate natural talents while others are able to work their way up from basics to proficiency with practice. So you can practice being psychic and it'll come to you.

I'll brush it upon this. This just sounds like remote viewing, which is a government program in the 70s, 60s, 70s, where they were actually trying to have people be able to do remote viewing and control things with their mind from other places. This is a CIA program. We spent billions on this.

billions of dollars we spent on this. Unbelievable. We'll do a bonus on remote viewing. It's fucking wild. And there's people that claim that they saw into a terrorist cell and then a bomb, they shot them all. It's fucking crazy. We'll talk about it. We'll definitely do a bonus. I'm going to write that down so we know because I think our listeners, our viewers, our remote viewers would be interested in that.

So the sister said, what we're doing, it's working. We've been told by police many times what you just told me was privy to only the killer and us. Many times. Many times. Too many to count. That tells me these chicks are bad women. They're committing crimes. They've been definitely probably scheming a lot of people or scamming them. I don't know.

So Suzanne said she started getting a read from the aunt over the phone. Oh. Right over the phone she was getting it. I don't need to be in the same room. She said, a slender blonde girl, a struggle between two men and a woman, a sense that something very bad happened. She got right away. Okay. This is much later, by the way, she's saying this stuff that we know about it. She's saying it publicly. Yeah.

Her sister, Jean, shared her visions with the family as well. And the aunt said this about the psychics. Right off the bat, they started telling me things that had happened. I didn't even have to say a word, like her having a tattoo and what had happened. Christine was coming through and talking to them, guiding them. It was eerie because of how much they did know.

This was also very publicized for six weeks that there was a woman missing and there was a description of her literally on a fucking poster before this. These people even got involved. I have the poster that says, here's her height. Here's her weight. This is what she looks like. Last seen with these people. She has a tattoo here. All they had to do was see a missing. They had to Google it. It's 2007.

And it's also 2007 when everybody had a tattoo, so all you got to say is she have a tattoo. She have a tattoo. Is it a butterfly? Do I see it? I see it. A bird, a butterfly. On her back, in her general, maybe low? General back, possibly. Maybe up toward the, I don't know, I'm seeing in the lung maybe area if there's a...

Suzanne said this quote. This is one of the psychic sisters. Then I heard the name as vividly as could be the name Tia shouted from my spirit guides. Really? Oh, yeah. I said Tia has dark hair and she has a connection with the short male. They're cousins and he's the meanest. Oh, my God. Yeah. This is later. She's saying she said that, by the way, this isn't none of the family said she said that this is her telling the press later.

She said, I was actually fearful of those guys. Their energy was the worst I've ever felt. They were some pretty dangerous people. So the sisters say they don't even charge to look for missing people. Is that right? No, no. They say service. I know there are people out there that take advantage of the families of missing people. They give them false hope. But this is Lynn talking. But these ladies never asked for a dime ever. And that really means a lot. They genuinely just want to help. And they might. They might have altruistic goals here.

That's possible. So Lynn gets her own search team going on here, though. There's about 90 volunteers one day that gather on a Saturday morning at the Bird Road farmhouse where she was last seen.

They got rubber boots, gloves, and they're trying to find something. It's 67 acres of fields, woods, and swamp in the local area. That's where they're all going to look. In December? In December, yeah. Or this is early spring or whatever. So it was organized by a resident named Stephanie Burke, and they get all these different –

groups together and Stephanie Burke said I'm so proud of our town at least we don't if we don't find anything today everyone will know that all can be all that can be done has been done and if we do find something it'll be bittersweet but then Lynn can have some closure two hours into the search on the edge of the woods not far from the road there Dawn Nichols a local searcher found a bone

That's not good. So they call everybody over. They hurry over to take a look at the bone. It was leaning against the bottom of a tree. And they're like, oh, my God. So what she found turned out to be a deer bone, though.

We just found deer bones in our woods two days ago. We were like, oh, bones. It happens. When I saw that animal down there. You saw a whole carcass, yeah. I saw a scapula of a deer, and I was like, oh, that's a person. Yep, yep. It looks like people bones. It's crazy. There's bones that match up pretty decently here. So they said her mother found out it was a deer and –

Let out like out of a long breath and was upset here. One of the people, they said, why are you helping the search? And this lady said, I have a daughter and I know if it were my daughter, I'd want all the help I can get. So, yeah, this is about and they scour the woods and then they emerge finding nothing. They found a quote, a strange pile of sticks.

strange pile of in other words nothing you found nothing and a few old beer and soda cans again could have blown out of the garbage and a deer bone that's what they found so you found nothing essentially which isn't their fault they were just searching but that's it so many searches have happened the property has around the house has been scoured several times um

They did everything they could. Lynn said,

Lynn tries social media, the limited amount of social media that was available in 2007. She said that Christine was super into MySpace. Really? So she said that she would do the same thing. She'd get on MySpace. She said, I quote, I saw Christine playing on MySpace, so I figured this is the way you got to go. When she went missing, I learned how to do it. Then it's like a mom network. You reach out to different people and they tell you different things. Yeah.

Shit is going for a long fucking time here. Yeah. So this is like 2008, mid 2008. A body is found. Really? A body is found. And Lynn realized during this body finding and as this goes on that different cases are handled differently. She said that the cops didn't give a shit about her daughter because her daughter was trash, quote unquote, to them.

Basically, we're white trash and they don't give a fuck about us. That's what she's saying. She said that's how it's going. And she said they're not looking for her because she's trash. She said she even overheard one investigator call Christine a sponge on society because she didn't have a steady work history. Dude, what the fuck? So she said, quote, before we found Christine, there was a body found in Pocomoke. It belonged to a prostitute. Mm hmm.

They thought it was Christine at first, but it turned out to be a prostitute. She said, that same person that told me about my daughter being a sponge on society, I asked him, is this my daughter? And he goes, no, you don't have to worry about it. That's not her. I said, are you sure? And he goes, yeah, she's an undesirable. This one, the one that we just found. Nice.

So that's not great bedside manner. Why is that guy in charge of anything with dead people involved? Well, don't talk to the other cops. You guys can be shitty because that's just gallows humor. I get it. You guys just treating everybody like an investigator. That's hard. Yeah. This is a potential victim's mother here. Come on.

So she said, this is what Lynn said, good family, well-liked by the community. You know, it's all a perception of what somebody is, I think, that gets the attention. If Christine had come from Means and she was well-respected in the community, I think a lot of things would have been done differently. And, you know, she might be right. Who knows? We have no fucking idea. So they said...

But I mean, also, a lot of times they look at a person's history and they go 95 percent of the time this person runs away. That's what they take off to go do something else. So I get their point of view. 95 percent of the time when there is somebody found, it's that person. Yes. And then you feel like those people keep making us look for people. It's never. Yeah. You keep doing this to us. We don't like it.

That's fucking crazy. So the sheriff said that there are times when maybe that one person hears someone talking about the case or just that one person can put a vehicle or a suspect at a scene that can ultimately break a case and bring a successful closure. But he also said that while media exposure continues.

and help to find those missing pieces, it also isn't very useful if each case isn't covered in the same way. He said, I really can't answer why they would pick one case over another. All missing person cases are of utmost importance to law enforcement agencies. Not sure about that, but whatever. That's the company line. That's why he's probably tasked with talking to the press because he'll say shit like that rather than, I don't know, we found an undesirable...

In a state of decomposition. Yeah. A pretty blonde white woman tends to get the public's attention more and the media's attention more, which is super annoying. Which is what Christine is. Is that right? She's a 5'3", 300-pound blonde woman. But happens to be a mother of three and living in a shit place and no job. They're just looking at her as white trash. That's all. Unbelievable. 2008, as it goes on, there's no new information. Yeah.

Lynn, who had been talking to Tia and those people trying to keep them in the loop and maybe figure out if they knew anything more about it, she stops returning Lynn's calls. Everybody's moved on. Hadle, the young guy, he ends up moving to Texas. Oh, yeah. And Junior Jackson moves to Tennessee. Oh, yeah.

Everybody just kind of split up. The band breaks up and everybody moves away. This is over the next year, year and a half. February 2009, though, Junior's in trouble. Oh, what did he do in Tennessee? He's in trouble. Well, he found himself in jail in Hamilton County, Tennessee as a suspect of an arson investigation. So he's been burning shit. And March 2009, Lynn...

gets a letter from Junior Jackson in jail. Is that right? Absolutely. And he is at this point Tia's ex-boyfriend. Oh, they've broken up. Yeah, and he wrote to Lynn from a prison, and he says that he, at this point, he's looking for a plea deal on an arson charge.

And he tells Lynn, I know where your daughter is. Oh, boy. More specifically, I know where her body is. Yeah. I know she's dead, and I know where you can find her. I know where the rest of her is. So, yeah. Obviously, Lynn tells the cops about this, and the cops go to Junior, and they end up working out a deal on that arson shit to get rid of that if he'll tell the cops what happened to Christine. So he does. First of all, he claims, and so does Tia, and we don't know how true it is, that

Christine was having a sexual relationship with Justin, the 17-year-old. Okay. For a while. That was going on. Okay. Then, apparently, this is what the police will say that everybody says, that Junior says that Christine and Junior started having an affair behind Tia's back. Okay. Okay. So...

This is what junior claims that Christine wanted more from the relationship. Quote unquote. I don't know what more you could want when you are all in the same house with the girlfriend. But but he said, I didn't. I told her I couldn't. I didn't want to. So he said that Christine threatened to tell Tia about their relationship and fuck their thing up. So they said, OK, so according to this is according to junior on November 13th, 2007, the day Christine was last seen, she

Christine and Junior Tia went out to run errands and Christine's children were asleep. So Christine and Junior slipped off into the woods to have sex in the woods. Yeah. So they went out and had sex in the woods is what he claims. He claims that his roommate, Justin, who had a crush on Christine and we don't know may or may not have been having a relationship, whether or whatever followed them. Okay. And then after Junior left,

That Justin killed Christine with a two by four. Beat her to death with it. Oh, boy. Because he was jealous. That's his story, huh? Yeah. He said that Junior said he had nothing to do with the homicide at all. He said, I was gone. He came out and I wasn't even there. I don't even know what happened. But that I was the mastermind of getting rid of the body, he said, though. I helped with that.

He said that from what he understood, Justin struck Christine three or four times in the head with a two by four and just breaks her, broke her whole face. She said,

The police at this point put out a statement that says Mr. Hadle struck Christine Shetty in the face with what was described as a piece of wood, then stabbed her lifeless body with a knife just to be sure she was dead. That comes out later, by the way. Christine Shetty died as a result of blunt force trauma to her skull so severe that it almost fractured all of the bones in her forehead. We'll find out later. Rage. Rage.

Hadle eventually, I guess, told Tia Johnson when the two were in a car together at a gas station later on that day. So now they have to get rid of Christine. Okay. So Tia Johnson's driving. We have Tia. We have Butch or Junior. We have Justin and we have Tia's two kids in the car. Get the fuck out. We're taking the kids to dump a body, everybody. Okay. Unless it's at the house.

And I go, well, I don't know if at the house or if they went back with the grandmother at this point or I don't know what happened with the kids. So that's why I'm saying we don't know exactly where, but they must have been at the house. If they were left with the grandmother, she wouldn't have been charged with child desertion and all that. They're left with a perfectly responsible person who's happy to have them. Yeah.

Anyway, he claims that Justin, this is Junior, that Justin and Tia took the body to the nearby River House in Bed and Breakfast. That's where it is. He said that he buried Christine's remains in the backyard where construction was underway, and he drew a map of exactly where the body was buried on the grounds.

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Good grief. So February 19th, 2010 is when this all comes together. Yeah. So two and a half years later where they dig for Christine and they finally stumble upon a tennis shoe, which leads to the rest of the body of Christine. That is fucked. She was there. It's really fucked up. An 18-inch grave and nearby on a piece of wood, Junior was carved.

Which is, they were like, um. What the fuck, dude? What the fuck? But he used to, he worked, he was a landscaping guy there for a while. Yeah, he could have done that any time. He could have done that any time. But that's not good.

If your name is carved in wood next to where you buried a corpse, that looks bad for you is what I'm getting at. Not good. The medical examiner testified that the body showed evidence of strong blows delivered to the face, the back of the head, and the ribs. Just pummeled this poor girl. They said based on varying locations, it would have been more than one time and at least three times. Lynn said when the police brought her in to see her daughter's remains, because she insisted...

What was left of her skull had been shattered from the eyebrows down. Her whole face was broken. Fucking horrible. Horrible. And Junior says, by the way, that that wasn't the first place they buried her.

They moved this poor girl. They moved her that day. First, they buried her in a shallow grave near the wood line of the farmhouse. But then they said, that's the first place they're going to look for is on this property, which is true because they scoured it for months. Let's move her. So then they dug her back up, put her in the car with the kids at fucking two in the morning and took them to bury a body. So federal marshals tracked down Justin in Texas. Yeah.

And they say that he will probably not face capital punishment for the killing, though. He won't face the death penalty. As they said, in order to get the death penalty in Maryland, there has to be certain aggravating factors that are not offset by mitigating factors. And they said, I don't think this is the type of case that's going to have the aggravating factors. Robbery, rape, things like that. So they said that...

Lynn at this time didn't say anything publicly or anything. A spokesperson for the family said at this time she's in seclusion with Christine's children, helping them to begin the healing process. I can tell you they are comforted to know that their mommy did not leave them.

Yeah. For three years they've been worried. Where's mommy? We don't know. So Junior and Justin both claim that Tia was plenty involved, by the way. Once they get him in, they're like, oh, she was intricate in this. Yeah. They asked her to help cover up the crime. She wasn't involved in the murder, but she certainly was involved in the cover up. I mean, she took her kids along, for Christ's sake. And she acted as a lookout in an upstairs window while they buried the body. In the guest house. Yeah. She looked. That's a good view there.

Justin, while in jail, talks to a cellmate, and he tells the cellmate that not only did he indeed beat her with a two-by-four, but also, and this was not released to the public, the medical examiner's report didn't release this, that he used a kitchen knife to, quote, poke her up, as he put it. Poked her up. And then he discarded the knife and the two-by-four in the creek later on. Three years ago. So T is going to confess to her role. Yeah.

She said that, you know, it was Justin who confessed to her of the killing, not Junior. Junior said she told Tia, but he told Tia about it. Tia said, no, no, no. Justin told me about it. Not fucking Butch or not Junior. Tia said that Justin admitted that to her that he'd killed Christine and scared her into silence. Tia says that Christine and Justin were involved in a sexual relationship in late 2007. That's what she tells the cops. So he might have been jealous of a lot of shit. Justin.

So they were all staying at the house. And she said that evening she returned to the property. No one was there except for Christine's two kids. So she said that Hadle and Jackson later returned saying they were looking for Christine after she took off because that was their story. But then she said, Justin told me that he and Christine were arguing over sex related issues and he was swinging a shovel and hit her with it. He said it was an accident.

So that's what he told Tia, apparently, but we know that's not true because we know it wasn't a fucking shovel. Tia said she didn't immediately tell the cops or anybody else because she was concerned for the safety of herself and her children. She said Justin could be crazy. She also was worried that everybody could go to jail. She said that Justin told me I couldn't tell anyone or he would come after me next.

So the psychics claim they helped crack the case after this is all done. Three years later, one of the guys admitted to it because he was up for arson. That's what cracked the case. But they say there's an article that says, well, police and prosecutors are dubious of that assertion. Lynn said that their input was another tool in helping out what helping to find what happened to her daughter. Yeah.

She said,

There's no...

There's no rug involved here. Three days later, in another reading, more markers came up. Christine had been buried in a shallow grave near a series of bungalows. It was near water in a place where boats could tie up, and there was a sign in front of the main building. Any business in a peninsula. You're on a fucking peninsula. Everything's near the water. Where boats come.

Then Jean, the one sister, had the balls to say if the police would have done their job with the notes we gave Lynn, they could have found the suspects if they'd just done a little background research. If police would have just let us be in charge of the investigation, obviously this would have been fine. They just need us to be sergeants, co-sergeants. Yeah, to search everywhere that has bungalows in the state of Maryland. What the fuck are you talking about? I don't know what you guys are going to get.

Then she said, you still need law enforcement to get the suspect. We're just another tool. You got that fucking right. You're a tool. That's that part you nailed. I don't know if you had remote viewing for that. The cops say, calm down, sisters. They Suzanne said her first contact with law enforcement was with a detective and he didn't blow her off, but he listened. She said, you certainly know a lot of intimate details about certain people. That's what Suzanne said that she was told by the cop.

He said that he wanted to be open-minded here to psychics, but the cops said that she didn't offer anything specific, only generality. She's near water. She's near an A-frame house, but they could never pinpoint where on God's green earth that might be. And on the East Coast, the amount of A-frame homes is crazy. Yeah, near water on a peninsula. So they

They said, according to this guy, he said the sisters provided no information that directly assisted with the case. He said, I don't want to make it seem as if it's some kind of scam. They're sincere in what they believe. He's like, they believe they do this shit, he said. But I can only speak to this instance. Looking back, there's a lot of similarities. But at the time, they really didn't lead us in any particular direction. It's not a direct scam, but it's like bullshit. It's, you know, kind of horse shitty, you know, that sort of thing.

So Haidle is charged with, Justin is charged with first degree murder and first and second degree assault. Yeah. He goes to trial. He's got a jury of six men and six women. And he wants a new lawyer, but the judge denies him one in the beginning of the trial. The judge called it a delay tactic in a case that's already dragged on for too long.

The openings here, the prosecutor said Mr. Hadle struck Christine Shetty in the face with what was described as a piece of wood, then stabbed her lifeless body with a knife just to be sure she was dead. Christine Shetty died as a result of blunt force trauma to her skull so severe that it fractured almost all the bones in her forehead. So they say that six days later, after a witness came forward, the assistance of U.S. Marshals, Mr. Hadle was found over 1,400 miles away.

He says that since his arrest, they haven't been publicly discussed all this. But the prosecutor tells the jurors that they will hear from a cellmate of Hadle with whom he told all this shit details. So the defense, the opening statement says that he's pleading not guilty and he's not guilty, basically. Very short opening here. Tia testifies. They call her testimony reluctant.

And she testifies to everything we said before. So we know all the info during closing arguments here. The defense says that Tia witness Tia Johnson's a terrible witness with no credibility. That's what this is about. So you can't believe her. So my client's innocent. She said he said the only way Tia Johnson can get out of this and that Junior Jackson can get out of this is to say that Justin confessed with no one else around.

She said Tia lied on November 27, 2007. She lied to police on February 23, 2010. And she lied to you yesterday on the stand. Oh, boy. And they also, the defense attorney shows a picture of the piece of wood with Junior carved on it near the gravesite.

And he says King Jr. killed Christine Shetty. That's what he said. Here's your autograph of the guy that did it. Yeah. The prosecution says there's not a single piece of evidence that justifies the statement of the defense attorney that Clarence Jackson killed Christine Shetty. There's no physical evidence that links anyone with the death of Christine Shetty but the defendant. They said Tia Johnson loves Junior Jackson, yes, but Justin Hadle is family.

She wouldn't throw him away for her ex-boyfriend. Right. Jury has three hours of deliberation. They find him guilty as shit. Yeah. Guilty as balls. Moving on. Yeah. But there's three months between the conviction and the sentencing.

So he's sitting in jail for three months. He must be bored while he's in there, Justin. Why? Because he removed a foot-long hinge from an observation window at the county jail and used it to pry open a security window casing and tried to escape. Oh, boy. But was caught trying to escape. So now he's got more charges instead of...

Less problems, he's got more. Uh-oh. So the judge during sentencing said there's nothing more horrible for a parent or family member to endure. You knew full well she was never going to be found because she was in a hole in Snow Hill.

The judge called it a charade and a cruel hoax that the community spent two years and three months searching for her while he knew her location all along. The judge says the burial in the backyard of the house there, the River Inn house, was depraved and no better suited for a cat or a dog than a person. He also said Justin, while incarcerated, reportedly spoke ill of Christine and her family to other inmates as well.

To the judge, that meant that Justin showed, quote, not a shred of remorse. No kidding. You, sir, may fuck off life without parole. Oh, shit. Yeah, he was 17. Oh. He's 19 now, but still. Oh, shit. That was a long time he just gave. I think he deserves it because I think. That's terrible.

I think he did sleep with her and thought there was something. And then he got jealous and followed them. He saw them go out there. Yeah. And then beat a woman to death in the woods. But what I want to know is why the fuck did Junior just leave her out in the woods alone? I think he took off. Yeah? That's what I mean. I don't know if he took off and left her. Was he involved too? She had to get it out of her or whatever. I don't know. That's a...

I don't know. Who knows? We don't know if he's involved. Maybe I'll get out of here and you come out after so that doesn't look like we were together. That looks like we were taking separate woods wanders. We were just having a little nature walk, each of us. So Lynn said, since she went missing, I've been working this case every day. This closes a chapter. We buried her and that was one thing. But today someone was held responsible.

I'm so grateful they believed in me and believed in my daughter and got justice for her today. I never wanted revenge, only justice. My daughter got a death sentence. Her children and family got life without parole. You can't just murder girls that are sweet enough to fuck you, you dick. What a good girl. She's a nice person. Nice, decent person. So she said, it feels like having a weight lifted off my shoulders. They said, well, was this about the psychics?

Did they solve the case? And she said, they didn't solve the case. I mean, I know that. But if law enforcement had just sat down to listen to them, maybe they would have found her earlier. No, they wouldn't have. Until someone told you exactly where she was, you're not going to find her. They had no lead to go to that fucking house. No, absolutely not. So the prosecutor said there might even be more arrests after this. They're exploring charging additional people. Really? 2012, Tia Johnson and Junior Jackson, those are the people they're charging. Yeah.

They take plea deals. Oh, okay. Smart move. Yeah. They both submitted an Alford plea, which isn't an admission of guilt, but acknowledges that you will be convicted if you go to trial. They've got enough evidence. We're fucked. So sentencing here, prosecutors said that, however, Christine and Junior were having a sexual relationship here, and she wanted more, tried to go through the whole thing. They said the whole narrative of it. Yeah.

Jackson's defense attorney said his client wanted to be held responsible for his actions and get back with his own daughter. And the judge said, the irony in his statement is he only wants to get back with his daughter. He has a daughter while Mrs. Dodenhoff does not. No matter what I do, it doesn't change the end results of his actions. That's the frustration of the court. Absolutely.

Lynn said, I just can't wrap my head around how someone could callously beat someone to a pulp and then go on with their life as if nothing has happened. Christine didn't deserve to die in the way she did. Junior speaks, too. He's got to eat some shit here. He said, I hid where your daughter was. I did not kill her. But the fact that I hid her for so many years is just as bad. I am deeply sorry from the bottom of my heart. Said that to Lynn.

He called himself, he said that he was the mastermind and the utmost ringleader behind the cover-up after the murder took place. He said, I didn't kill her, but all the ringleaders, I was just as bad is what he said. He really threw himself on a sword, this guy here. He said it was my idea to bury her at the River House Inn, and he told the judge also that he's been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and is being medicated for it now. He's kind of a bad guy.

So the judge says, you, sir, may fuck off. Life in prison for you. Okay. All but 30 years suspended for being an accessory to first degree murder after the fact. Okay. So he got 30. He got basically 30. Yeah. So he got 30. Now, Tia-

Her public defender here noted how Tia could not have been even on the property when the murder occurred, and she had nothing to do with carrying or burying the body. She just drove the car and looked out. That's all she did.

So the prosecutor said, yes, she also had numerous opportunities to tell everybody what the fuck happened and get some closure. She said, he said, I firmly believe. But for Mr. Jackson's desire to get out of jail in Tennessee, Ms. Shetty's remains would still be buried under that bread and breakfast. And this case would remain unsolved. Ms. Johnson, every day from 2007 on, had the opportunity to tell the truth. And she never did.

Now, the defense said throughout her life, other people's wills have been imposed on Tia. She wasn't present when the murder took place. She was presented with circumstances and was told what to do.

The judge says that might all be true and everything, but, quote, maybe just maybe that night, that night, somebody might understand that. But many, many days went by when she knew what happened. Yeah, that night she was scared. Sure. The next day when she took her kids to school, she could have went to the police station afterwards is what they're saying. Or not just the next day. Those two dudes moved out of state eventually. Yeah. And she just went on.

The judge said she drove the car, but there is much, much more than that. Ms. Johnson was up to her eyeballs in that cover up and she was not under the will of Jackson and Hadle for all those years. And he said those tears and this blood are. Oh, she wrote in a journal that these these tears and blood are for you. I want to die and be with her. She didn't deserve to die on my watch. And she's got a jury. She writes about cutting herself in her journal.

The judge says that that's all nice and dandy and all. At least they're going to be able to move on in some fashion. Obviously, it's going to be difficult. Tia says, I apologize to everyone involved, especially Lynn and her family and everything they're going through. I'll pay for my actions for the rest of my life. There's no happy ending for anyone involved here, but maybe now the healing can begin. I do know I will pay for my actions for the rest of my life. I see the pain in my children's eyes. I suffer and grieve every day as well.

Lynn said, out of all three, she is the one for which I hold the most contempt. Absolutely. She said, she's a woman and a mother, and I'm sad to share her gender. Wow. That's why you're a disgrace to vaginas. I hate my vagina because you have one. Wow.

To say all she did was drive the car, there's a lot more to it than that. She had her own children in the car and waited while the body was buried and then never told. What kind of a mother would make another mother go through this pain and agony? The judge says, you, ma'am, may fuck off. She gets a sentence of five years for the same accessory charge plus 10 years for a third-degree burglary for a total sentence of 15 years for

But with seven and a half years suspended. What the fuck? So seven and a half years to your gut. Hmm. I think you get extra just for bringing your kids with you. You don't bring your kids to a body burial. That's fucking... Mob guys don't... Ted Bundy never brought kids along. That's crazy. That's...

It's unbelievable. 2013, by the way, they changed the Maryland law about accessory after the fact. It used to be a maximum of whatever it was. They increased the maximum amount of penalty that you can get for being a accessory after the fact. Yeah, because of this. Yeah, totally. I guess it was 10 years. Yeah, it went from the maximum penalty increases from 5 to 10 years for being an accessory to first or second degree murder after the fact.

So that's passed. It's called the Shetty Bennett Act. Very nice. So they even put her name on it. That's nice. 2015, Justin appeals saying that he proclaimed in open court his decision to fire his attorney, but the judge declined to hear him out and said he was a time-wasting tactic. And the appeals court said...

Fucking reversed. Can't do that. Yeah. So it's reversed at this point for Justin's conviction, but he's offered a deal here. He's going to take the deal. He avoids a retrial because they said, we're going to retry you on first degree murder otherwise. So they said, are you willing to take this deal? And he does take a deal here. This agreement exposes him to a prison term of 30 years instead of life.

Lynn, they asked Lynn, and she said it was very hard listening to everything again. It's the start of a big conclusion, so there's no wiggle room. This is done. He can't keep appealing and making me come back here. It's just been a long time, eight years. She said, you know what? If he can't appeal it anymore, fuck it. Everybody is done. Great. So they said that he gets life in prison with all but 30 years suspended. So he gets exactly what Jackson got, which seems...

The person who actually did a murder has to get a little more than a person who didn't. He swung a two-by-four into a tiny woman's head. That's fucked up. Fuck, yeah. Then in 2016, the Psychic Sisters appeared on Investigation Discovery Show Six Degrees of Murder, and they're touting that they solved this case. Wow.

She said, when I tried to get an image of Shetty's body, I kept seeing an image of bungalows. I knew her body was buried somewhere near them. I kept feeling a connection to Texas, that someone involved in this case had a relationship to Texas. This is years later. Give an address, lady. Yeah.

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You can have your bachelorette party with these ladies, too. Dowsing, psychic development classes, aura readings, ghost hunting classes, Egyptian tarot cards, and angel oracle cards. And they do ghost hunting as well. The final insult on top of all this, June 2021, Christine's

10th grade son dies. Oh, my God. Her son, Ezekiel, who apparently had just completed the 10th grade, is dead in June of 2021. I just found his obituary. I don't know how he died, but that is fucking terrible here. And also in 2018, the prosecutor of all of this, Attorney Bo Oglesby, said,

is in a shitload of trouble. He was sending letters around in the office just using the N-word constantly. What? In 2014 and 15, we're talking about. Sir. Constantly. I mean, it's wild, dude. All the time. So he got in a lot of trouble, too. So there you go, everybody. That...

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