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The Greatest Scam Ever Written | 5. The Runner

2024/8/29
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Smoke Screen: The Greatest Scam Ever Written

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Josh Dean: 本集讲述了Maria Duvall 骗局的始末,从80年代法国两位文案大师的创立,到新的参与者升级扩大规模,再到跨国执法部门的追捕。骗局采用特许经营模式,受害者遍布全球。 Richard Clark: 骗子们会重复和发展他们的商业计划,改变销售的产品,并保持在幕后,难以追踪。打击Maria Duvall 骗局需要跨境合作,但不同机构的规定和政治因素会带来挑战。 Clayton Gerber: 作为关键调查人员,Clayton Gerber 详细描述了调查过程,从追踪信件来源,到发现Infogest 公司,再到逮捕Mary Thanos 和 Phil Lett。他解释了骗局如何运作,如何利用受害者名单,以及如何通过测试不同的信件版本来提高效率。他强调了骗局规模之大,以及单个受害者和地方执法部门难以察觉的困境。 Antoine: 作为Maria Duvall 的儿子,Antoine 揭露了信件中虚构的经历和夸大的能力。 Mary Thanos & Phil Lett: Mary Thanos 和 Phil Lett 承认参与了骗局,并揭露了他们的老板 Patrice Runner,他才是骗局的真正主谋。他们解释了各自在骗局中的角色和职责,以及如何根据老板的指示来运作。 Patrice Runner: Patrice Runner 的行为和最终被捕的过程展现了其狡猾和逃避法律的企图。 Clayton Gerber: 调查人员追踪到Maria Duvall 的信件是从蒙特利尔运送到奥尔巴尼的,数量巨大,每周发送5万到10万封,回复率高达7%。他们发现了Infogest 公司,实际上是 Destiny Research Center 的新名称,由 Mary Thanos 和 Phil Lett 运营。Mary 负责运营和财务,Phil 负责市场营销和信件制作邮寄。Infogest 使用“受害者名单”来定位目标客户,并通过测试不同的信件版本来提高效率。骗局通过一系列信件,逐步加深受害者与 Maria Duvall 的关系,并诱导他们继续付款。最终,Mary 和 Phil 因为良心发现而合作,揭露了幕后主使 Patrice Runner。

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The Maria Duval scam, originating in the 80s in France, evolved into a franchise model. U.S. Postal Inspector Clayton Gerber focused on the North American franchise and discovered the letters were entering the U.S. from Montreal.
  • Maria Duval scam used a franchise model.
  • Letters entered the U.S. via Albany, NY, originating from Montreal.
  • Clayton Gerber investigates the North American franchise.

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U.S. Postal Inspector Clayton Gerber discovers that the letters are entering the country via Albany, NY, and that they’re originating from a company in Montreal. Locating criminals across the border for extradition is no simple task, but eventually Clayton finds two of the scam’s top lieutenants. Can he get them to give up the name of their boss, the true mastermind of the scheme?  

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