We've Been Framed: Friday, January 31st, 2025
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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Friday, first Friday in the new studio. I don't know how long we're going to have to do shows before I stop remarking on the new studio at the beginning of every single episode. Until milestones stop being reached. Like next week, it'll be the first February episode in the new studio. And by the way, it's going to be a while because I cannot wait for my first period. Yeah.

Oh my gosh, on this couch. In this very feminine space, I feel like it's going to be really harsh. You're in your feminine space.

A thousand percent. Literally, the studio kind of looks like the inside of a vagina. Like, if you were to, you know how some TV shows, they're like, your vagina on the inside, and then they make it look like this very, like, you know, pink. Like a fruit. Right. Literally us. Literally us. That is so beautiful. We are so feminine. I do look forward to that milestone for you and, like, how this chair really accommodates a woman on her time. And I guess when, like...

Hmm. Goes against what I believe. Hmm. Two paths diverge. Are you on your period? She may or may not be on her period. I just like, I would love to contribute to this conversation, but like it goes against my beliefs. So I'm. Okay. So by the way, we would never pressure anybody to go against their beliefs on this chair. Right. But I'm just saying like, it may or may not have already been done and confirmed that it's a pleasant experience. And yeah,

Speaking of unpleasant experiences, yesterday was my official moving day. I know you guys are like, Trini, you've been moving out of your old studio for a month. And I have. But yesterday, like I officially brought like all my old crap to this new pargy place, which is making me sick. Yeah, you took it out of the closet there to put it in the closet here to never see it again, except for if we ever make a toast museum and we need all of these old merch pieces. And that is why Zach has a whole closet full of my old merch. Yeah.

Exactly. And I can't lie when I tell you. We do it for Toast Museum. I did absolutely nothing in the move. Like I didn't even meet the movers. Like they were literally in and out so easy. Of course, we're a roadway. We are a roadway integrated brand. It's like my fourth move with roadway. They really were so pargy. But upon walking into the studio today, I was like, oh, all the old stuff. Like I don't want it. I only want my new stuff, you know? Yeah, but.

But sometimes I was just kind of like I was accosted by like my old life. I'm like, get out of here. Yeah. But it's think about the herstory. No. And I just had like a pit in my stomach about this day for like the last couple of weeks because it's like years and years of all of our stuff acquiring in that studio. And, you know, it was our studio. And then I was left to sort of do the move by myself. And thankfully, I wasn't by myself and I wasn't stressed out. Thanks to roadway.

Thank you, Roadway, for being there for my sister. And I feel like people, everyone knows Roadway. Like it's the go-to moving company. But lest we not forget, they moved me across the country too. So if you're in any part of the country and you need to move, call up your boys and girls at Roadway. I'm so glad you brought that up. I have a code. Oh, thank you. It's thetoast10, thetoast10. You get 10% off local moves and 5% off long distance moves. Moving can be stressful, but with Roadway, it doesn't have to be. Love that for us. And I love that for you. Just a little usefulness. Okay, integration.

Vertical integration. Jack Donaghy would be proud. You have big plans for the weekend? It's Friday. It's like kind of because I've been doing so much, I haven't even been able to acknowledge it. It's Friday. I'm just, I'm just busy, you know? So my big plans for the weekend started like two nights ago when the flu has hit our household. And that's what I'll be doing this weekend is bearing down with the flu and getting through. So yeah, any plans I might've had, which thankfully I didn't really have any, like we'll just be home tomorrow.

chilling, relaxing, being cozy, recovering, God willing. So that's what I've been up to that like since we wrapped yesterday, I've just been in Flulandia. I've actually watched a lot of TV if anybody wants like a Paw Patrol recap. Oh, that kind of TV.

Spidey and his amazing friends recap or a Bebeth and recap. I actually don't want a Spidey and his amazing friends recap. I can't stress that enough. And it's really sad. And I think maybe this is something you can probably relate to on a deeper level is like, you love to see your kids enjoying things. Right. And so like when all the kids in our family became obsessed with Spidey, I'm like, oh, that's so cute. What a nice hobby. Spidey is a good role model, even though him and his friends are never supervised and they're literally six years old. And the way I've come to

to fucking hate that group of kids because you have the books. If music's playing in your house, it's the album. And now the TV show, like I really can't stress how I want to kill Peter Parker and his annoying loser friends, Ghost Spider. And what's the other one's name? Spin, Miles Morales. The only one in the characters that I don't despise is Tracy. Tracy. Because Tracy who like exists, he's like a tarantula that lives at the web quarters. He's their robot. He's like, you know, the-

- He's a spider-shaped robot. - Oh wait, duh, a spider. Am I dumb?

Yeah, he's kind of like the tech guy. He's like the one who's like, you're in. Yeah, he's like Merlin. They're like, Tracy, help us out of here. He's Merlin from Kingsman. When they get older, they'll get that reference. He's Riley from National Treasure. I just rewatched National Treasure over the weekend, me and Ben. And it's Ben's favorite movie. And for some reason, anything Ben likes, I automatically is like, okay, ew, that sucks. That also feels right. Mighty Ducks. Yeah, I just assume everything Ben's obsessed with is a piece of shit.

Are your overhead lights on? - No. - Oh, okay, okay, sorry, you scared me. Okay, sorry, sorry. Tech department reared her ugly head, sorry. So when Ben, National Treasure was on cable, and Ben was like, "Let's watch it." I was honestly in the mood to scroll on my phone anyway, so I was like, "Sure, yeah." It was an opportunity for me to be agreeable.

Let me tell you, I was absolutely dazzled by this film. So much so, I was so mad that we watched it on cable instead of like starting it from the beginning on Disney Plus, because then the next night we watched National Treasure 2 on Disney Plus, like no commercials. - No commercials and cable takes out bits and bobs. - Yeah, they cut it. Let me tell you that film is amazing. And one, you're actually learning stuff, you know? You are learning a lot about American history. It is stacked cast. I mean, the leading lady, do you know who it is? - No.

What's her name? Claire Danes. Now I'm feeling like maybe it's not her. Who do you think it was? I thought it was the girl who was married to Joshua Jackson. Kruger. Is it not? Diane Kruger. Is she a national treasure or is it seriously a lookalike? No, it's her. It's her. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. She's great. She's great. Jon Voight plays his dad. He's great. And then Angelina's dad. And then in the first movie, the big villain-

Who like they're fighting against for the declaration of independence. Ned Stark. Not Ned Stark. Being the villain. It's stacked. It is stacked. And it's so good. It withstands the test of time. Family friendly. Like if you have a kid who's like into history. Like I'm telling you. We are collectively sleeping on the national treasure. I feel like the country is not sleeping on it. I feel good knowing that. Like I feel like it's.

up there as a national treasure, 100%. - No, I think when we remark on it culturally, we like make fun of like, I'm gonna steal the Declaration of Independence. - Only because it's so much a part of our DNA as a people. And Nicolas Cage, like he never has to work again because he was national treasure. Like I feel like he gets his flowers. - When we finished the second movie, we were like, okay, let's do the third.

and come to find their- See, there's three, Claudia, if somebody has three movies, oh, okay. There isn't, and there was like drama around it too. I was doing a brief research and development mission on Google, and they were like gonna make it, and then nobody wanted to do it, and then they were gonna make it into a TV series. It was a kind of turn, it was cursed. So I feel like there was-

bad interpersonal relationships on the set of National Treasure and that gives me a pit. - You know what you should watch if you want more National Treasure vibes? I didn't watch the movie but I read the book and I think the movie is Harry Potter level of adaptation. The Da Vinci Code. It's like France's National Treasure but it's like art. - Oh, you know what? That's actually a good recommendation. - I think that's what you should watch.

My goal this weekend is to watch The Brutalist. I don't know how. If anybody, I don't obviously support pirating, but if any of our listeners are SAG members who get a screener, but SAG members are really, really strict about that. We texted Josh. We were like, hey, do you happen to have one of those SAG-approved screeners? Because we just watched the episode of Curb.

Where Larry's screeners get stolen and pirated on the internet and he literally goes to prison. So I was reminded that like actors get back in the day in the Larry David episode, it was DVDs. But today they get a link. And we were like, hey, Josh. How's it going? How's the fam? Like he's already an Oppenheimer. He definitely gets screeners. He literally did not even answer us. That's how seriously he takes it. You know, he would do anything for men, but not that.

Well, maybe he also knew like you would tell this story on the toast. Like I watched a brutalist cause Josh Peck sent me his sack. No, by the way, if he had given it to me, I would never have said how I got it. Of course. Yeah. But if people were looking into it, it's a pretty clear connection. It's a straight path to Josh Peck. Well, maybe, but maybe I would have lied and said like, I went to the movies, like a little lie like that just to protect Josh's like identity. I agree. Yeah. Well, to be clear for any of the Hollywood big wigs listening, like Josh totally respects the SAG system. He didn't even answer his best friend, his brother, uh,

And I still haven't seen The Brutalist, so. So you'll watch The Da Vinci Code. It was nominated for Movie of the Year 15 years ago. I believe it. And that's classic us.

Yeah, we're just a little behind. I don't want it to get lost in the mix that I read The Da Vinci Code. I just want to push that view forth again. You did kind of scurry past that very interesting fact. I did. And much like you and Deemer Copperhead, Deemer, I read it, one, because it looked good, and two, because I wanted people to know I was reading it. Of course, of course. It's been two years, but I think we should circle back to that point. And I'm glad to let you guys know it's really good. It holds up.

um speaking of barbara kingsolver and the da vinci copperhead um on jeopardy a couple of days ago there was a category like literary like pulitzer something like really me and ben sort of just like tuned out and the first one was like looking for the the author of demon copperhead i forget her name of course i could jackie i remember every fact of that book like because it was my personality for six months and i was like who is kingsolver was ben gooped and gagged

and like he hit the floor. He was like, "How did you know that?" I'm like, "Oh, you see that book on the windowsill?" It's literally on my windowsill. I display it because I'm so proud. It's right next to Mike the Situation's book. I said, "You see that book over there? "Pulitzer, okay, Pulitzer." - Did it win the Pulitzer or was it just nominated? - No, it won, no? Oh my God, nothing made me up. - No, no, no, I don't know. I'm just asking. - Demon Copperhead, Pulitzer.

And then what won the next year? Like maybe we should do that. Maybe that's a good one. It won the fiction prize in 2023. Okay, what won the fiction Pulitzer in 2024? Maybe that would be like a good place to start for a book rec. Nightwatch by Jane Ann Phillips. A beautifully rendered novel set in West Virginia. Wow, they really love the, what's that region called? Appalachia, the great American novel. In the aftermath of the Civil War. Nightwatch it's called?

Yeah. Night. Two words. Yeah. Watch. Am I speaking English? I found it. Sorry. It wasn't coming up on Goodreads. I'll put it on my want to read. Sure. Then Demon Copperhead in 2023. Oh, Demon Copperhead was a tie. Someone else. Trust by Hernan Diaz. A riveting novel set in a bygone America that explores family wealth and ambition through linked narratives rendered. Okay. Seriously, that's not even English. I don't know. It's a book. Oh, wait. Club. This looks good. Like an unparalleled novel about money, power, intimacy, and perception. Like.

- That does sound good. That's not how they described it on Pulitzer.org. - I'm hitting the want to read.

In 2022, a book called The Netanyahu's by Joshua Cohen. Oh, how scary. I know. In 2021, The Night Watchman. That's weird. Yeah, they obviously have like a favoritism. I'm just literally scrolling to see if there's a book I do recognize. Yes, 2015, All the Light We Cannot See, one of like the most popular Holocaust books of all time. And then in 2014, The Goldfinch. That was made into a movie, right? Yes. Yes.

It was. Those are the ones that I recognize going back to the early 2000s. Okay. Well, thank you for that little literary lesson. We're literally like a podcast that talks about Pulitzer Prize winning. Like these other bitches could never. These other bitches could never in any given episode. Pulitzer. Sports.

Do you think the Da Vinci Code won a Pulitzer? Like, have we both read, like, two different – I know you also read Demon Copperhead, but – I don't think Da Vinci Code would have won a Pulitzer. I feel like it was too mainstream, if I may. Yeah, yeah. I feel like there are commercials for the Da Vinci Code. Right? Are there? It's like Harry Potter winning the Pulitzer, which it could have. Maybe should have. Oh, no. God forbid, like, something popular wins an award. Well, that's why – like, Demon Copperhead was popular. Popular. Yes.

You're gonna be popular. Oh my God. I got the funniest email this morning. Ooh. It was forwarded to me. It was a deer toaster submission. I have to read it to you. Okay. I know it's like not. We're talking about raw dog and deer toasters. It's not funny enough for deer toasters. And it's like personal to me. Oh.

Hey, Jackson Turd, long-time listener, first-time writer. I love you, but I'm writing in with some real beef. I listened to your glowing review of the movie The Substance. Turd said she'd never seen anything like it, and I took her word for it. Because of this, I decided to watch this on a third date with a guy I really like.

And he almost vomited at multiple points throughout the experience. Do I acknowledge the fact that with this potential suitor that he cannot protect me in my time of need? Or do we just avoid scary movies for the rest of our courtship? P.S. Demi deserves to win the award. P.S.S. Thanks for warning about the third boob. Yeah, it is a very, very graphic film in terms of like needles and skin and blood. And I know people do have like physical reactions to that. But like honestly...

I feel like this is good for you. Let me reposition because she said she really, really liked him. And it puts you in like in a position of power. Like now he's feeling like weak and small and embarrassed. And like you have the upper hand. Yeah. And like you probably got like a little bit of the ick. Not enough to like stop liking him. It's not his fault. But like you can't even watch a movie without throwing up. Like what are you six? So now I feel like you have a little bit like of a less of a power imbalance between you and this guy. Like you're on equal playing fields now. Yeah. Your crush has been tempered a little bit.

which is good for you. And he's like wanting to impress you now. And that's it. Yeah, and that's just a good thing to know about a potential partner. Like if they are a queasy type, it does bring me back to like Dana's birth story. Dana's birth story, which will live in infamy in my personal mind till the end of time. Dana's birth story is on the Redheads episode of our October episode. But just like to cut to the chase, her husband fainted in the delivery room

He decided to look over behind the curtain of a C-section, which they tell you not to do. Literally your entire body is open. Right. Not only did he faint, which is very inconvenient, but like he hit his head on the way down and had to go across the street to the other part of the hospital to get stitches. So he wasn't even with her for like multiple hours after she gave birth. Dana said that they had to take him from the hospital to the emergency room, which is on the other side of the street in an ambulance.

That's insane. It is truly one of the craziest birth stories I've ever heard in my life. So now that you have this like red flag about this boyfriend that you have, this is good. Just like make sure when you're giving birth, like he is not near behind the curtain, the scene. Yeah. How are the stories today? Random. And I think we'll put a nice button on the week. Oh, you know what? I've been targeted with a lot of content. I actually meant to download and send it to you, but I'm so overdoing that. I can't, like, I actually can't stress how over it I am. Um,

But a lot of, and I feel like it's so unfair when people do this. Like when we find out something about someone, then you go back and watch all their content through that lens. You're like, well, look, we could have told you. And it's like Matt James. Yes. It's all this old TikTok reels content from Matt James and Rachel. And now knowing what we know about their relationship and just like how imbalanced it was. And he was kind of like unemotional, maybe like a little mean. If you watch his content, which was supposed to be like at the time, fun and playful, nobody thought anything at the time. Now through that lens, it really,

Really is like I hate to be that person like it's really it's bad like there was this video I saw this morning of him like pushing her in the pool fully clothed fully dressed like kind of hard Okay, I didn't find his mom in front of his mom and like giggling. It was just like okay I'm of two minds and I haven't watched the video so maybe if I watch them I'd have a different opinion, but just like on its face. I

Here's my issue. Yes, sometimes when you have more information, you can go back and look at things in a different lens and it casts a different light on them. However, all of this stuff was posted on social media in the last three years. At the time. All of you guys were watching it. Millions of people saw it and nobody once said anything. So now it's like so concerning to you. Whereas a year ago, he pushed his fully clothed girlfriend into the pool and nobody said for one second, like, hey, that's wrong. Now I didn't see the video then. I didn't see it now. So this is not my personal problem. But-

It's not like these are like super old things. Like everybody's been watching. So now you want to like compile something and make it look a certain way. And yes, perhaps it is exactly that way. I'm holding space for that. But I'm also holding space for the fact that this is something that people do. You hadn't not seen these videos and they weren't a red flag to you when you saw them. So just consider that. You could do that with really anything. You could- I know, it's hard not to get caught up. You could clip this show and find a bunch of moments- So true. Of-

Us bullying each other and saying that girls hate each other. Yeah, no, we're like always calling each other fat and ugly. We really are. Because we are fat and ugly. Well, speak for yourself. I'm just fat.

- So I'm just-- - Yeah, no, I know what you mean. But it's hard not to get caught, like swept up in the narrative, of like making stuff up. - As someone who hasn't watched the videos, I'm not swept up in it, but I could also see myself watching the videos and be like, oh shit, this is bad, I take back what I said. But it just does raise the question of like why nobody thought those videos were weird in the last three years. - At the time. - Like you're the same, you still have eyes. It's on the same platform. Like he was posting them. It's not like he was caught out like this. So I heard there was like videos of him filming her eating and she's obviously like doesn't wanna be filmed. - You can tell she's just like, can we eat?

Where was anyone saying any of this when it was happening? Literally three weeks ago. Three weeks ago, he was posting it. No, it's a factual point she brings up. So I'll leave you with that. Jury's out.

It's Friday, which means we also have Queenie and Weenie. And when I tell you I'm so fucking excited for Queenie and Weenie, mine came to me yesterday and I wrote it down. And you know, when you just like know you're about to slay, like I was writing it down like that'll show them. I just want to say like you've really set the bar high for yourself now. And just to be clear, you in particular are going to. I'm going to what? My Queenie of the Week. Oh, I'm really excited. So you're saying the bar will be met. Yeah.

Yeah, I think I'm going to be doing the uneven bars pretty much. That's what I think. Okay. I look forward to seeing that. You should. I do. Good. Because you will.

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Thank you slash chert. What can I say except you're welcome. We did watch Moana as well. And I've got that scene. It's fresh as a daisy in my mind. It's actually like one of my least favorite scenes in the film. What's your favorite scene?

See the light where the sky meets the sea. It calls me. That's my favorite scene. I like baby Moana. She's so cute. She's so cute. She's so cute. Okay, our first story is some new couple news. NCN. Kaya Gerber has wasted no time. And she was spotted out with Lewis Pullman who plays Cal in Lessons in Chemistry. He's like the crazy mad scientist. Oh, he's from Challengers. He's from Challengers. He's from Challengers.

If you've watched Challengers. Oh, wait. Is he? Is he? Sorry, wait. Lewis Pullman? Yeah. Okay. How are we spelling Lewis? L-E-W-I-S. Phonetically. And how are we spelling Pullman? The way that it sounds. Pullman. Pullman. Pullman. Pullman.

Oh, I'm sorry. No, that is not from Challengers. Excuse me. I got confused. Challengers is the guy who played Prince Charles, young Prince Charles in The Crown. Understood. I do feel like Lewis Pullman was also in The Crown in some way, but we're getting off track from the actual facts. This is such like a random guy for her to date. Yeah.

Well, she's now spending time with Lewis Pullman. They were spotted hanging out at an L.A. restaurant on his birthday. Lewis's father, who was also an actor, Bill Pullman, was also in attendance. Running Bill Pullman. So many things in that one sentence. One, he's a fellow Nepo baby, and I feel like on that level, they'll definitely connect. They'll have a lot in common and to talk about.

Two, she's with him on his birthday. It was his 32nd birthday. So that's kind of serious. And she's met the father. All of this in literally four weeks since they announced their split. But let's not forget her and Austin probably broke up in December, if not before that.

I Googled the dad. I don't know him and I don't think you will either, but he's like a very accomplished sort of character actor. He's done a lot of work for like many years on different TV shows. I'm excited for like the Kaya Gerber single girl era. This is so unexpected. Like, because even like her choosing Austin Butler, like was so obvious. I feel like anytime she's been spotted with someone like Pete Davidson, she goes for the obvious choices, which I kind of hate. Like I personally find that boring. So her going for like this absolute rando, kind of obsessed, kind of obsessed. I'll leave it at that.

into this as well, mostly because I love lessons in chemistry. And maybe if he was like a random actor in a similar caliber show that I didn't watch, like I wouldn't be as jazzed about this, but because I watched us in chemistry and it's such a good book and such a good show. It was a great show. And he plays a really great character. I'm just going to like, assume that he's very similar to his character. Calvin.

and therefore ergo I'm going to ship wholeheartedly so random but you know what this just reminded me of I was scrolling TikTok this morning I actually saw a bit of tea a bit of it was a clip from watch what happens live Austin Kroll was on so it's a story oh leading into our fifth our southern charm recap because you know I'll shut my big fat mouth sorry you know I didn't miss southern charm no she never does I facetimed her she's like on the couch watching southern charm

I'm like, okay. I could be anywhere in the world anytime. And like if Southern Charm is on, I'm seriously watching with commercials. But you're not going to be anywhere in the world. Like you're going to be home. No, but I'm just saying the constant in my life and all different, like Southern Charm has been on for a long time. I've lived in many different places. I've been many different people and I'll always watch it. That's beautiful. It's a constant really.

Back to Kaya Gerber. I just can't get over the sheer random nature of this pairing, although I'm not mad at it at all. I agree. If it was an actor from a show I didn't watch, I would seriously be clowning on this so hard right now. But he's a P-jom, and I feel like this will be really good for his career. He was an excellent actor in that show. I haven't seen him in anything else

since then so I don't know if it's been like you know maybe lost some of the momentum and this might pick it back up actually knowing that now his dad is just a working successful actor makes me feel like he's got things figured out like career path wise like he doesn't have to be Austin Butler and you know everybody knows my name it's like no I'm gonna work and I just love the craft I'm gonna make a living and I don't need to be the most famous person on the planet right he was also in Top Gun Maverick so that's good yeah he was obviously Louis or Bill

Lewis. Let me look that right up. I think he's at the beginning of a blossoming career. I would hope so. I really do. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like the nerdy one who takes off his glasses and everybody realizes he's handsome. Yeah.

Oh, that's cute. Okay, so you know what? He's on his way. And I feel like he's actually the opposite of Austin in the sense of like, Austin was all glitz and glam. Like the roles, even though he was in like three major pictures, like the roles weren't there. Lewis is not glitz and glam, but like the roles are there, I feel. Yeah. The work ethic. I think what's more insulting than like your ex of many years going on to date someone so polar opposite of you. Like I think a lot of like girls and guys have a type and they end up dating people who are all kind of like

different versions of the same person, whether that's looks wise or personality wise, career wise. So for her to pull like a complete, like three point turn and go to this absolute random, like,

Dude. Yeah. I wonder like, what does that say about Austin? I could see her and you planted this in my mind and I will blame you for it forever. Cause it totally changed the way that I looked at Austin Butler. Cause you were like, and you said it when you said it, like you had like insider information, but I think it was just. Tell me what I said and I'll let you know where he got it from. That he's just like a really thirsty social climber. And like part of his relationship with Kaya is that obviously he likes her. What's not to like, but she is, you know, from a Hollywood royalty family. And he's like constantly climbing the ladder from like using these women, Vanessa and like,

kaya like using them to leverage his own career hey like i don't know where i got that idea but i agree with it and i also feel like i got that idea from you like i feel like we fed off of each other no i you totally brought it up we have to go find the episode it's live on the podcast i had no idea what you were talking about and ever since then i just see him like that it was such a good call i could totally see him being that way and i

I feel like how he treated Vanessa Ann is actually. No, I, yeah, I, maybe, I think it just tracks. Like he was with Vanessa Ann for 10 years and then he, what, like, I don't even know why they broke up. And then he's like super successful and dating. Dating like the hottest young model. Because like that's the, that's been his trajectory. That's why I think that. Yeah. By the way, I'm not mad at you. I completely agree. So having said that, I can see Kaya, like maybe over the course of their relationship, like kind of like,

Like she was like starting to get like onto him, you know? And now she just wants to be so different than that because this guy, Lewis Pullman, I don't know him personally, but he just doesn't give thirsty social climber vibes. Yeah. And I like that for Kaya. I do. I do as well. Plus don't forget she's a nerd. Right. She has a book club. She reads. She actually does like read a lot for real. But she also wants you to know like she's not just a model. She is a nerd.

What is it with these like six foot tall gazelles who are beautiful, born into wealth and fame, who are just like desperate for us to know that they are also nerds? Like Kendall Jenner, of course. Kaya Gerber comes to mind. And they're always in every interview. And now they don't say it so much anymore because it's become like a cliche. People used to call it out and it became like a whole trend. That's how the whole internet, not like other girls things started. The Karlie Kloss. Yeah. Like I'm a nerd. Like I like computers. Yeah.

And then Kendall's like, no, no, me and my friends, like we are nerds. Like we just love to paint. And Kaya's like, on a Saturday night, like I'm kind of a nerd. Like you'll probably catch me like cozying up with a good book. I don't know what that is. And even though that is, it's probably true. Like, okay, you're reading, like you're not a nerd. Not only that. You're not a nerd. I don't find that admirable. Like if I'm Kaya Gerber, if I'm Kendall Jenner, if I'm Karlie Kloss, if I'm born either like so perfect looking or into like a perfect family, like with wealth and fame, like

I'm a lot of things. I'm not becoming a nerd. Like you couldn't drag me back to nerd time. Like I'm becoming a coke whore. I'm becoming like a sexy slut. I'm doing all of the things that like only girls who look like that can get away with. Like, please, there are like, we are good. The nerd community is good. Like go do you. Are you a nerd? No. Because you said we are. I was speaking on behalf of a community that I like, but no, I don't identify with. Yeah. I don't identify as a nerd and I've never felt like called to.

No, and I do feel bad for, like, nerds because I think the word has become, like, cringe. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. For our next story. Hmm. Hmm.

Are you ready for our next story? It's actually a follow-up to yesterday's story because Chiara Ferragni is in the news for two major reasons. I meant to tell you about this to bring it up as a story. As we were talking about her business issues yesterday, her Instagram stories must have been expiring where she went in on the fact that she's no longer with Fidesz and what happened between them. So we were right to say that like there was something going on and yesterday she literally just told us everything.

Because there's also like an Italian podcaster slash journalist who has been like exposing this, like doing episodes. I don't know if it's like in conjunction with Chiara, but explain.

exposing Fedez and what he's done. Yes. So on Wednesday, January 29th, she decided to break her silence and open up like never before through her Instagram. In a series of four Instagram stories, she shared what she went through during her seven-year marriage with Fedez, admitting that she tolerated, quote, disrespect and justified wrong behavior in the name of love. For months, I chose to stay silent to protect myself and my family from two situations that have deeply affected me, but I can't keep quiet anymore.

Right. Right.

What shocked people the most was the confirmation that Fidesz had been in an extramarital relationship for six of the seven years that they were married. She said, I was talking to the girl on his wedding day. Yep. He was asking the girl to like give him assurance, a reason to leave. Yeah.

She said,

So apparently he called his mistress just before walking down the aisle with Chiara and asked his mistress to like give him any sort of like tell him to run away and be with him forever. And she didn't. And so he went through marrying Chiara because also he didn't know how to kind of like call it all off. As you said yesterday, like their marriage and their wedding was the biggest story. Globally, but especially in Italy, like they are like a, I'm trying to think of like who a comparison. They're kind of like a Ben and Turdy. No kidding.

Like of like Italian royalty people fucking die for them. He's like this rapper. Obviously we don't know any of his work, but in Italy he's like a huge people think he's so hot. They love his music. And she's just like boss, babe, bitch. Like I understand like the pressure of being like that perfect couple, but like,

Two, there's so many layers to this that are probably so deeply painful for Kiara. Like one, obviously that the entirety of your marriage, like to have any sort of infidelity is devastating. But from the time that you got married, like from the day that it's been going on, like that's really devastating. But then also sort of coming to terms with the fact that you got married because of

Of the unrequited nature of that affair. It's like your, your man's mistress didn't even want him. Right. It's not like he chose you. It's just, he had nowhere to go. Right. Like by default, like that's a terrible feeling. I imagine. Yeah. And what a piece of shit piece of shit. I don't,

I didn't really know him before just from like the background of Kiara's stories. But their whole life seemed like a fairy tale, you know. And it's just, it's that old adage, but like it just always rings more and more true. It's like you never know what is going on between two people. So before you like start to envy or compare yourself or think like, oh, we don't look as in love as they do. And like we don't get to do things. Just don't even, because you never, ever know. Like this is worse than anything than like that,

You might have thought was off between them. Like literally on his wedding day, he's talking to his mistress. We continue to have a six year. They have two kids and he has a girlfriend. It's so corny.

But it really is the takeaway here because I'm sure there are people who watch them and just like we're filled with envy for that type of love and life and marriage and family and all the nice houses. And to be honest, like, no, you can, there aren't enough nice houses to keep someone in a marriage like that. Like for real. Yeah. And I guess she's only speaking out now because he has shared stuff that has like embarrassed her. That's what she said in her post. Cause I understand why she, I mean, she seems like the tough to the type to just like,

tough it tough it out do it for her kids and then even when they break up to not say anything like for her kids um but this is far like they're so far gone in terms of like keeping the veil over yeah themselves no and this is something I personally struggle with and maybe like I'll understand it more or feel differently like when I'm blessed one day with a child but like

I get so mad when people are like protecting their, like he's the father of my child. I don't give a fuck. He's a dick. Like everybody needs to know in celebrity world. Yes. I get it. I feel like there, there's different things. Like there are just people who split up because they're growing apart. They don't get along. They don't respect each other. They can't communicate. And there's slights here and there. And then like those people usually don't go and tell every, every fight that they ever had with their husband. Cause that's just like personal people's business. But then there are things that are so egregious that like,

that are going to come out anyway, that it's better for you to live in like it's out there, you know? Yeah. And for you to just be able to like move on from it. So I understand if she never wanted to mention it, but I think that, you know, that ship has sailed in terms of like keeping the lid on it. Yeah. And when it's just like typical irreconcilable differences or whatever, like, no, we don't need to know. I know you want to know the business, but like we,

we can guess like you guys just don't like each other anymore. No, if it's boring, like sure. But when there's like big drama, everyone's like fights are drama, but it's like standard. Yeah. You know, this is just like so fucking crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It, cause I think anybody, uh,

But they were like two people who were really individually famous, but together as a couple, that's also hard. Like when you get more attention as a couple, so you want to stay together more, but the relationship's not working out, but you don't want to give up all the opportunity. And there are two people who were like definitely both individually really famous, but like somebody who lives in a different country. Like I heard about them so much as a couple, more as a couple than ever individually. Yeah. They remind me a little bit of Molly Mae and Tommy, except they're even bigger because they came from two different worlds.

and fused together like a rock star and Italy's number one influencer like bar none. Molly and Tommy came up together really so their fans were always the same but you had like these two huge fan bases for Chiara. But it is the perfect comparison. Yeah yeah and then when they break up except

Molly and Tommy, I think most of the time it was a fairy tale and that's what she was saying. It's not like they weren't in love. It's not like there was infidelity. It was just big smoke and mirrors like the whole time. There was just other stuff going on and I think they will end up back together if they're not already, which it seems as though they are. So it's not totally comparable, but...

But yeah, this is really shocking and really sad. And she seems so tough. Also, I remember like her other relationship before this, which was like long-term and serious. And he was like her business partner, I think. And he like totally stole her business. Like she was like fighting for years to get her like name back. The blonde salad, Kiara, like in litigation for years. Like every relationship has been a nightmare for this girl. Oh my God. That's so strange. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it's just important to remember that key takeaway here, like especially when it comes to like Internet stuff and nothing is what it seems. Right. Don't compare yourself to other people, really. Really. It's true. Yeah. Your life is fab. Yeah. It's yours. Just the way you are.

Are you ready for our next story? Number three? Yeah. Yeah. Because it is some Grammys news. This is our last episode before the Grammys. Woohoo! Oh, right. What are they on Sunday? They are on Sunday, and we have performers and...

Presenters. And notably, Taylor is presenting at the Grammys, so that has everyone in a tizzy. Which isn't crazy, but it's more so a confirmation of her attendance, which she does usually go, especially when she's nominated for Album of the Year, but who knows these days what she's up to with the Super Bowl. Right, but I think she could pop into the Grammys, and I think she'll give out Album of the Year because she won last year. That feels right. She can't give it out. She's nominated. Wow.

What is she nominated for? Tortured Poets? Are you okay? I thought she won for Tortured Poets last year. Did she win for Album of the Year last year? For Midnight? Yeah. Yes, she's won for Midnight. She won for... But last year she won for Midnight. Was that last year? Yeah. I'm sorry. That's why I'm like, she's wearing her Tortured Poets dress and she won Album of the Year. I just assumed, oh my God, so maybe she won't announce. No, she won't announce Album of the Year. Oh, so she'll just announce like Joe Schmoe, whatever.

Yeah, like maybe New Artist to Sabrina. That's probably the only category she's not nominated for this year. Right. 2024 winner was, let me just make sure I'm saying this correctly. Yeah, Taylor Swift. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy that she releases like an album a year now. Yeah. Okay, so this is the year of the stacked album of the year. Yes, Brat, Short and Sweet, Tortured Poets. Beyonce, Cowboy Carter. Yep.

So that will be interesting. And then here are the performers. Okay. And then also, do you think Travis is going? Like the timeline does line up because it is a bye week. It's the Pro Bowl. So people who play in the Super Bowl are not playing a game. Although I imagine you're under rigorous training and practice schedules. I would love to see him. I don't think he's going. And I don't think he should go. I think like for the team, like these two weeks before the Super Bowl, like we are drilled in. It's true. And it just like sends a bad message. Message. I don't think he...

And I also, I feel like there have been other times where it's like Taylor's big night and Travis should be her side. And for their first red carpet appearance, I don't think this one is it. What would it be? Watch. And then, uh, I mean like not that she, they were ready then, but like the eras toward movies. Yeah. Like her own project. Yeah. Asked Grammys. It felt more palpable that they could show up together. This just, it's, he's literally playing in the Superbowl. I would actually like, I would find it weird if he goes. Okay. Okay.

And like, I feel like because I'm being so adamant about it, he's going to go. They're going to go. Yeah. So you're welcome. Performers. Billie Eilish. Chapel Roan. Sabrina.

Can't wait to see her up there shaking that thing. Charlie XCX. That'll be interesting to see how she stacks up comparatively. Yeah. Yeah, it will. I don't know why. I just feel like the whole brat era is like now I'm like a conspiracy theorist. You've been soured on brat. No, not soured. But because I think like some of the songs are definitely good, but I feel like it was overhyped. Like in my like not even in my mind, like somebody overhyped it to me. Yeah.

And I don't even know, like what kind of performer is she? Well, I saw her perform on SNL and it was really terrible. So I hope she's doing something else. Cool. Switching it up. Yeah. Stevie Wonder. Classic. Obsessed. Shakira. Go off. Oh, baby, when you talk back. John Legend. Okay. Cynthia Erivo. Obsessed. She just accepted me from Wicked? I don't know. I'm sure I could, like maybe because Wicked maybe is nominated for Soundtrack or something.

But Grammys doesn't do anything movies. I know. But they should do soundtracks, like movie songs. I feel like Cynthia Erivo could be tapped to do like either during the In Memoriam. They always just need someone with a party voice. Yeah. Or if they're going to do like a tribute to somebody who passed away this year. Yeah. They just are always tapping like true talents for that. Yeah. Chris Martin in Coldplay. Okay. So Coldplay. Why'd they say it like that? What is he special? Because they just like were showing pictures of each celebrity. And so like.

they wanted to show chris martin janelle monae okay benson boone oh he's good he is but i have to say something what that song is really good so if you don't know who benson boone is like it's totally normal but you probably do know the song these beautiful things that yeah please and so it's a really good song and it was like having a huge year okay now maybe i take back what i'm gonna say nevermind okay

- Because you don't stand by it or 'cause you just don't wanna go there? - Well because someone would say, well Claudia you don't feel that way about Shibuzy. 'Cause if you said Shibuzy was performing at the Grammy's this year, I'm like good, he should be at the Song of the Year. But it's like this Benson character is just everywhere, like doing everything and you have one song. It's the same way I feel about Dasha.

But for some reason, when it's Shibuzy, it doesn't bother me. Oh, Dasha. Dasha is, did your boots stop breaking? So I feel like maybe Shibuzy doesn't bother you because I can confirm he has a whole album full of bops and he is that guy. And by the way, I'm sure that these other people have other songs on their album that I just don't know and I don't think a lot of people know. Like I dare one person to name another Dasha song besides Austin. And same for Benson Boone. And I'm sure most people couldn't name another Shibuzy song, honestly. So Benson Boone...

going all these places because he has one song doesn't bother me because I feel like I've heard some of his other stuff just like on shuffle and he's just like really talented and I wish good things for him. Other people who have one song and it's just the one song over and over again I just don't feel like they have a second act coming up. It's annoying. So I agree with that. So that's how I feel about Benson Boone. But like Benson Boone is filling the Lewis Capaldi shaped hole in my heart. Do you listen to that TikToker?

Alex Warren, I think his name is. - Carry You Home? - Yeah, so he is like an OG Hype House member. He was like a part of a couple that was like a TikTok-y couple. I think they're married now. And he started releasing music and everyone's like, "Okay, good luck with your little project." And he has released such amazing music and he's getting

So much hype. I think his songs do incredibly well. He just did a... He released another version of one of his popular songs and Joe Jonas is on it. Like he's really making waves. And he is a very... Not only does he sound like Lewis Capaldi, he looks like him too. Let me tell you, I didn't know any of that backstory about him that he's a TikTok or anything. I listen to his music because it comes up on my Spotify because that's the kind of music I like. And he's up there with Benson Boone. Like to me, they're the same person in terms of like...

where they came from, which is just Spotify release radar. Jackie, did you ever watch the Hype House Netflix show? I believe he's a character on it, him and his girlfriend. Shockingly, I know this is going to really surprise everyone. You didn't watch it? I never watched the Netflix Hype House show.

Oh, you were missing out. That was so good. But okay, so you really don't know him. But I'm glad to know that. I'm actually glad that I was introduced to him without knowing that because to me, he's just a serious artist. Do you know this song? You knew the house was burning down. I had to get out. That's also the one Joe Jonas hopped on. You will love. Margot really put me on. Margot started streaming him. I'm like, Margot, are you really streaming that TikToker guy? She was like, Claudia, the music stands out. It stands on its own. No, both. And I was like, okay. Yeah.

has made it to my liked songs. I can't believe that you like know him not even having anything to do with TikTok. That's crazy. Literally like five songs a month make it to my liked songs and I listen to my liked songs. Yeah. Headlights. Yeah. That's on my liked songs. Is there one that's called like the house was burning down or something? I'll find it. It's not on my liked songs but maybe I should add it. I will add it. No you should add it. It's a really Par-G song. It is called Par-G.

Burning Down. That's the one. And Burning Down with Joe Jonas. Ooh, which way do I go? Go with the OG first. I am. And then you'll dip your toe into the special effects.

Oh, did you see Rascal Flatts Jonas Brothers Q Lab drop today? I did. I was about to listen to it, but I was listening to the new Morgan Wallen song that dropped and then I got distracted. But then this conversation reminded me Rascal Flatts. It's kind of a good season of music right now. Yeah, I know. I'm really excited. I have high hopes for this Rascal Flatts Club. I haven't listened to it yet, but if it's bad, like I'll be pissed. I'll just blame the Jonas Brothers. So it's fine. That's actually like a really kind of foolproof plan, right? Like, yep.

And it's not Rascal's fault. No, if it's great, like that's for damn sure. Rascal gets the credit. But if it's bad, right. The German brothers. Do you want to know more Grammys performers? Oh, I thought we were done. Sorry. Yeah, no, I'll go quickly. Dochi, Teddy swims, Jacob Collier, Brad Paisley, Ray. Okay. We could have stopped when we did. Lainey Wilson, Sheryl Crow, St. Vincent, Brittany Howard, Herbie Hancock. That's a lot.

I'm sure some of them will be like doing something together. But that's a lot of performers. Yeah. Yeah. Like not that many exciting ones actually. I agree. Yeah. It all comes out in the wash. We're left with like Cynthia Erivo. Sabrina. And Sabrina. Hearts up for Sabrina. And maybe there will be a surprise performer like Beyonce or something. You know? I feel like that could happen. I actually, I wouldn't count on it. Or Taylor. Taylor.

I wonder where Beyonce's going to go. Why wouldn't Taylor perform? She doesn't really. The last time she performed was the Folklore Willow era, which was one of her most iconic performances of all time. But she doesn't... When she's nominated, she's pretty much guaranteed to show up. She usually shows up, but not perform. Okay. And I don't think Beyonce will perform either, only because I think...

I don't think she has a high likelihood of taking home a lot of awards this year. Like I don't think it's her year. I was actually just reading an article about Beyonce and album of the year and like all the times that she was nominated and didn't win. And in there is like one true example

that she should have won that year. I am Sasha Fierce. The, no, I think it was called Beyonce. It was like the self-titled album and it was the year that Beck won. And like, I'm sorry, who is Beck in this world? Like not to offend everyone. I actually remember like being socially conscious for that year where Beck won over Beyonce and the internet was so mad. And it was like, we'll see in five years, like if anybody knows who Beck is and we don't. No, and like, I'm sure the internet was mad. And at the time, like I'm sure Beck's album like was really good, but like those Beyonce, like that was a,

more prevalent album and carried on. But then the other time she lost was to Taylor Swift, Fearless, which like Adele 25. Withstood the test of time. And then what was the other one? Or maybe it was just three.

And no, but it's not even so much about the album. It's about the other nominees too. Yeah. Yeah. And like the other two times that she should have won, like it was just stack categories. This year is also a stack category. And I don't think Cowboy Carter is even as album of the year worthy as I am Sasha Fierce, Lemonade or Beyonce was. Yeah, I agree. I don't think it's her year. So I, I don't even know if she's confirmed to show up and I don't think she's going to perform. She's like, I'm not going to waste my talent on you bitches. But you don't think that they might give her album of the year because like Jay-Z, like

read them to filth in his speech last year? No, I don't think they would want to like indulge that behavior. Also, who is Jay-Z in this world in this moment? Like his social cachet has gone down severely since he was accused, just accused of allegedly, you know, assaulting a 13 year old. So like personally, I don't negotiate with people like that, you know? Yeah. I just feel like, I don't know. I feel like they might want to just finally give it to her and then here she is nominated, even though this wouldn't be the year.

No, it's there's too many. Chapel, Sabrina. There's too many in that category. And for me, it's Sabrina. One thousand percent. I actually had a dream about Sabrina last night. I was listening to short and sweet in my head and while I slept more than tortured poets for you. No, like tortured poets. So for you, it's tortured poets. Yeah. And I actually do think she'll win.

Well, we'll see on Sunday and we'll see on Monday. Because I didn't think Midnight's was going to win. And if she didn't, like I wasn't going to riot, you know, like it was a stacked year last year. Like I think that this year like is a year I would riot. You know, if you're like on the scale of rioting, I would riot. Yeah, there would be a riot.

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You're welcome. Gerdobello. Okay. Our fourth story just got swapped in because new news has emerged. It's not breaking news. But basically, Reese Witherspoon was just talking about, she was saying how she lost like a dear Hollywood friend because she made a speech at an awards show that was a bit bawdy. What's bawdy mean? Like inappropriate and like... Risqué. Risqué. And now this person doesn't talk to her anymore. So I was like,

like without knowing who that is, that is so uninteresting. It's an uninteresting story. Without knowing what the speech is, like whatever. So the A-list actress who doesn't talk to Reese Witherspoon anymore has seemingly been identified, including the speech that she made. Speech. Let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess.

I don't know how you could guess. Selma Blair. No. And it's kind of, and the speech is from a while ago. So like before your, before like we were paying attention earlier this week, Reese Witherspoon said in an interview that a fellow Hollywood star allegedly ended their friendship after she called out their idea to get laser hair removal while presenting her with an award.

For the sake of privacy, Reese refused to name drop the actress during the candid chat. However, after some sleuthing, just Jared has reported that the mistake you Jiggy Jared. Thank you, Jared. The mysterious celebrity Reese was referring to was Kate Winslet.

So during the 2007 BAFTA LA Cunard Britannia Awards, classic. How did I miss that? Reese presented Kate Winslet with the prestigious Artist of the Year Award. So Kate had asked her to do the speech to present. Oh, so they were really tight. Like you ask someone, you're like low-key...

fucking with to do that right while standing in front of an audience to present the star um Reese kicked off her speech by saying I always wanted to be a European movie star wear giant sunglasses elaborate neck scarves smoke hand-rolled cigarettes and have savoir faire and gravitas imagine my good fortune when Kate Winslet moved into my neighborhood rang my doorbell and said darling Sam is off shooting and I believe our children are the same age could they possibly have a play date and

And oh, by the way, it's almost nine o'clock and I've had nothing to drink. Do you have any wine? During her speech, Reese praised Kate Winslet for her fearlessness. However, she also called her out for peeing all over herself in front of Harvey Keitel in Holy Smoke. She further pointed out that she wanted to tell more of their stories but couldn't because they were too bawdy or tawny or drunken to tell, including the time they contemplated laser hair removal.

The revelation comes just one day after Reese called losing a friend for roasting her in a speech while presenting her with an award. Reese said this literally haunts her to this day. She said, so this friend of mine who I didn't really know that well, but she was a very serious, proper actress. She asked me to give her an award because Reese had never been to that particular award ceremony. She thought it was like a roast. So I got up and I roasted her before pointing out that the tone of the gala was British and elegant and classy. Right.

Oh my God. Okay. Because at first I was like, oh, so lame of Kate Winslet. And then the more you told the story, I'm like, wait, Reese Witherspoon is the villain in this story. Like,

that's really inappropriate. And so the fact that she looks back on it now, like with the self-awareness to be like, no, I was wrong for that. I'm glad she wasn't like trying to throw Kate Winslet under the bus. She's throwing herself under the bus. And that's really funny. And I would love for these two to reconnect. Like obviously Reese knows what she did wrong. She has listened and learned. Oh my, I just went on such a journey while I'm listening. I'm like, how am I going to defend Reese? Like she sounds like a bitch. No, I,

I feel like she, what is this? 15 years on has realized like she was wrong. It literally gives her a pit. Like sometimes you just like misread a situation. You do the wrong thing. People,

People, I feel like that happens a lot at like weddings. You know, if you're asked to give a speech about someone and sometimes people like bring up inappropriate stuff and like they just like misread it. And I know sometimes like that stuff kills and there is a line, but it's so hard to know where that line is. So I feel like this is a very actually relatable thing of like making a speech for someone and they did not like, and if you didn't have like the strongest relationship beforehand, like I wouldn't want to be friends with that person anymore. Why bother pursuing? Yeah. I, but I, um,

I do like this little window into how these two became friends. Yeah. Like literally just knocking on your door, being like, we have kids the same age. Like obviously they knew who each other was like on a professional basis. Um, like to be famous and wealthy, you know? Yeah. But then you have like, at least with you, if it's you're talking at your friend's wedding and you fuck up, like, okay, it happened. Right. Yeah.

This. I need to see this speech for sure. Like see Kate's reaction when she walks up. Yeah. But the thing that she said before the armpit thing was worse. Peeing herself. Oh, peeing. Right. Yeah. And just like talking about all the drunken antics. Yeah. I would also stop being friends with that person for what it's worth. Like on a global stage. I think I would too, especially if it was a new friend. I'd be like, oh, this person can't be trusted. They obviously have like bad instincts. Yeah. They don't know like what's for the private. Yeah.

Especially like when you're a public person, like a lot of things probably need to be kept for the private and you need somebody who's gut instinct, like knows when to talk and when to shut up. So I'm sure that was like a learning moment for Reese. I have no ill will against Reese for this. Like I feel sympathy for her. Sometimes you have to learn a lesson the hard way.

Yeah, I agree. And she's a better woman now because of this. Yeah. So funny. I'm glad we figured out who it was. Me too. Because these like stories where we're all just like endlessly guessing and there's no way to know who it truly is. Like I find boring. But the James Van Der Beek story that last week we pretty much figured out. And now Kate Winslet, love. No. And without knowing who the celebrity was and what the speech was, we would have been like, oh, who in Hollywood has a stick up their butt that they didn't like Reese Witherspoon's speech? Yeah. Yeah.

Fifth and final story leading into our TV recap is Austin. Ooh, yeah. Is Austin Kroll revealing his thoughts on the rumors that Paige is with another guy. So Austin and Patricia were on Watch What Happens Live last night.

And they were asked a lot about the breakup. Austin confirmed that Paige has allegedly moved on with another guy when a caller asked what he thinks about the rumors that she's with this guy. And he said, I don't think that those are rumors. I think that they've been substantiated. He confirmed that Craig knows as such. And he explained, you know, he didn't for a minute. But yeah, I think he's fully come to terms with that, that that's not a rumor. And then Andy was like, wow, OK, OK.

Meanwhile, Paige then commented on an Instagram video of this moment saying, ah, yes, a man I haven't spoken to in six months knows exactly what I'm doing. Right. So at first I was like, oh, this clip is sad. Like, because I actually don't know if Paige has moved on. There was like a lot of hoopla around that Eagles game, but she hasn't. It's not official. And there was like so many fake rumors about her with Marcello. So like, seriously, I don't know. Like, I genuinely don't know. But I was just like, OK, maybe she is seeing that guy. Yeah. And.

And then Austin being like, yeah, we've kind of like come to terms with the fact that like, it's not a rumor. Like she's just dating someone and that's hard. And we're like figuring it out. And he was kind of speaking on behalf of Craig. And I was like, oh, sad. And then I was just like scrolling the comments on TikTok this morning. And I saw Paige at the top. I was like, oh shit. So is that her saying she's not dating anyone?

I think it's just her saying, I'm sure there's like more to this story, whether it was like a first date. I feel like also maybe Austin is trying to make it seem like she has a boyfriend, which she probably doesn't. And I feel like there's just always more color that can be added. So like him speaking on something about a person that he doesn't talk to and hasn't spoken to, like what do you really know? And that's annoying like for Paige if,

She hasn't spoken out about her dating life and like this, her ex's like random friend who she's not friends with, like talking about it. It's like, stop. And who she's always had beef with because of Sierra. And even, right. Even this season of Southern charm, um,

Craig and Paige are together and Craig is having beef with Austin. And every time Paige is there, she's like telling Craig, like, just cut this guy out. Like, you know, move on with the podcast. Like, obviously they didn't even get along in good times. So for him to be the one speaking on her in bad times, it's like, you know, what do you know? No, she's right for that. Yeah, I agree with that. And a little bit of Southern charm recap. So last night, the boys are reuniting. This season is really centered on.

Austin and Craig, the girls are fighting, but they have this podcast, Pillows and Beer. They do it twice a week and it's like based on their friendship, but they're not really friends right now because Craig just kind of wants to like sit home and knit and be in his backyard. And Austin's like, buddy, where are you at? And it's hard to call it because now knowing that Paige and Craig have broken up and I feel like in the season, like,

Craig is making a lot of these decisions because he's in this serious relationship with Paige and he doesn't go out because like he spends his time with Paige or at home. And they're the right decisions for him in that moment. Right. And now, and now I think viewers are quick to say, well, oh, he was doing all that because of Paige. And now that they're broken up, he was wrong. And like, I don't think he's wrong for wanting to be in a more mature phase of his life. Like the way that the men on Southern Charm live and act. The men? Men. Yeah.

You said man. I think I said men. It was giving woman. I'll have to watch that back. Yeah, thank God we're recording. Yeah, that's like Cody Simpson performing at the CMAs. Which I'm still waiting for.

The way that the men on Southern Charm live and act is not something that should be modeled whatsoever. Agreed. So if Craig wants to like break free from that mold in a very serious way, I am so supportive of it. Agreed. Like they seriously need to grow up. So I don't think it's fair to just be like, well, now I'm sure Craig's crawling back to his friends. Like he's allowed to want to live like a more serious lifestyle, take his work seriously and whatnot. But Austin is just, you know, casual buddy looking for his friends. And I just feel like they need to make up like this is stupid.

Craig offered to pay him $30,000 to leave the podcast and like give it to him. Wait, who Austin offered Craig or Craig offered Austin? Craig offered Austin.

Austin because getting just to basically like buy the rights yeah because it's been hard to like do the podcast together when they're not friends and the show is about their friendship he said like Austin always just shows up like hungover Craig does all the like work for it and so can you just like give it okay it's giving Sophia and Alex like yeah it really is except they're guys and like it's just the things that just like roll off their back like literally once he's one minute they are laughing and the next minute they are fighting and also like crying about their hurt feelings it's it's shocking um

I hope that they work it out, though. Like, I like all of their friendships, but they do need to find their new normal, and maybe that does change again now that Craig is single, but still, he doesn't want to be hitting the bars. Well, it sounds like, based on Austin on Watch What Happens Live, like, it sounds like they're, like, close again. Yeah, which is nice. He'll need his friends now. But I don't want Craig to revert to that lifestyle. I don't think so, but Austin's now in a serious relationship, so...

- Good. - Yeah. Then the other crazy thing that happened is JT. I've been telling you like JT is just a ticking time off on this show. - Yeah. - And I just also learned that he put out an Instagram story statement saying that he has left the show in post-production. - Oh, so you know something bad is coming. - Because he said they wanted to do more like on-camera interviews. He said he's filmed already like 10 this season and he won't be doing the rest and he is leaving the show.

Hmm. This season has been like really bad for JT self. Like he just comes up looking so bad. And like one thing that he always had, he has this like blossoming relationship with Vanita and they're like really cute and they go shopping and she texts his mom and they like get along. Friendship or like friendship that is flirtatious. So like, okay, it looks like it's headed.

somewhere and so last night on the episode she like invites him over for dinner cooks for him she's about like gonna tell him how she feels she's like when I like someone like I want to tell them how I feel and like make it really easy for them like here's this is like here's a brand you know I like you like let's

Let's get it popping. Let's show mature. And even on last week's episode, they had this weird conversation when JT stormed out of the party and he's saying, oh, Vanita, I love you. And it was just like, are you guys about to kiss? That's literally how I felt. Are you guys about to kiss? So then this week, they're about to talk about their feelings and she says that she likes him. And he says, I'm seeing someone. Oh.

That's weird. Weird that you would flirt with like Vanita and make her feel this way when you're seeing someone that Vanita, Vanita said that she knew that he was talking to someone, but not that it was like in a stage where the door is closed. And now it just feels like so clear that he was kind of like using Vanita. She was the last person on the show who like really had a soft spot for him. And I feel like he was,

flirting with her and just like being yeah because I'm sorry like as evolved as we are like two straight different gendered people becoming best friends like is not normal yeah and they're like new friends too it's not like they're like brother and sister from growing up so they're being like romantic undertones is very like normal and real and him pretending like what I hate yeah and then it was just it's also weird for his new relationship because it was like the need it was like if

was the other girl and he's been talking to me the way that he is and that he's even sitting on my couch having a conversation and JT is saying like I do like you and I feel the chemistry but I'm seeing someone it's like even saying that to someone when you're seeing someone like he's fucked all around he's burn bridges with Madison with Austin now Craig and

sally taylor everyone so at a certain point how could he even be on this show like he has no friends left yeah it was just like if more people watch southern charm he would be my weenie of the week because it was it would be like like west moment it was so it was so crazy like you really thought they were about to kiss on the couch and i was like but you made fish i said for vanita it was no i'm i'm happy for her because she's seriously as dodgeable it yeah well for sure

Anyways, that's what's new in Charleston. And I'm telling you, things between Molly and Shep continue to bubble. But after you said that last week, a lot of people in the comments and on our pages were commenting that they echoed your statement. It's like this obvious thing. You're not the only one who sees it. Right. So they flashed back to last week when they were watching Molly's concert on her tuba. One of the cast members said to, sorry that I can't remember his name. He's always on the show and I just can't remember his name.

Sorry. He said, sorry to this man. He told Shep that Molly had told him that he has feelings, that she has feelings for Shep, but like in a sweet way. And like, she was like, oh, and then this week things are starting to go south with Shep and his 26 year old Bahamian model girlfriend, because not only did she like ghost him for three days, but

Patricia, by the way, growing up is having a newfound appreciation for Patricia. Patricia told Madison that before Sierra started dating Shep, she was hitting up Whitney. Oh, although I don't really trust any information that comes from Whitney. I think he's the devil.

No, but the thing is, Whitney... And Patricia was like, Whitney will kill me that I said this because I told Whitney you have to tell Shep. And Whitney was like, no, no, no. Whitney actually doesn't want to be in the drama anymore for real. But then Patricia just had to share this. But I think it's becoming clear that Sierra really wanted to be on this show. Yeah, yeah. And doesn't really care about Shep. Well, there's always Molly. As one...

- Ship is sailing. - Door closes. - Another one might be coming into port. So we shall see. - That's beautiful. Let's do Queenie and Weenie of the Week, a great way to wrap up the week. It's been a fabulous week here, you guys. Jackie and I, every Friday, like to do a little game that we call Weenie of the Week and Queenie of the Week, where we give out an award to two different people, someone who acted like a queenie this week and somebody who acted like a weenie this week. Just know it's all fun and games. You can be Queenie one week, weenie the next. It's a seven-day title and it's not that serious.

so would you like to do queenie or weenie first we will do queenie first as we always do i'll go first because yours is so amazing that like i don't want to be upended but my queenie of the week is the obvious queenie in the room with us which is our new studio of course of course toast what era is this like 4.0 okay are we are we counting the breath

Yeah. Yeah. So the breath and then the pink with the thrones, then the apartment we were evicted out of. Then honestly, then the studio where we were both in it together and then remote and then remote. And then this I'm sorry, I lost count. Was that six or seven? Your finger was at seven. Yeah, I know. But I forgot about my thumb again. Breath pink with the thrones apartment we got kicked out of studio. We were in together. We were in remote. This one six to six point now.

I love that. Mine's actually not dissimilar, but it's a little bit more specific. Obviously, the studio is the Queenie of the Week, but I think that in the face of such judgment and adversity, our frames have really acted with such Queenie-like elegance. Everybody, you're ugly, you're ugly, you're ugly, you're making me dizzy, you're making me dizzy. And they have just stood behind us giving us such support, giving us such party vibes. And the thing is, Jackie and I were talking about this last night, like,

We will never ever remove these frames. Like you don't understand. - The frames are a symbol of us not being able to be told what to do. - Not only that, they're a symbol of our perseverance. People are always telling us, "You suck, you suck." And we just stand tall and we do our jobs. These frames, people are like, "Why are the frames empty?" Because it's us. We are the frames. This is Jackie and this is Claudia. And in the face of such judgment, such bigotry this week against our frames,

They have done nothing but stand by our side. And stand tall. And that's what a Queenie does. It's so true. And what I also love about the frames, I was thinking yesterday, is they're actually an homage to our first host studio. Remember those chairs, the gilded chairs? And there we brought in a touch of our herstory. Like, what, we're just going to sit in front of this wallpaper and these podcasts? We look like every other podcast. We need our frames. We are us. Yeah, and the thing is, is like,

Talk, talk, talk. Talk, talk, talk about the frames. They're not going anywhere much like us. So get used to it. That's what I'm saying. Did I overhype my Queenie? Keep rolling them off. Keep saying. Keep making them famous. They're not going anywhere. Did I overhype my Queenie or no? No, you didn't. But we actually, I teed you up really nicely. Yeah, I was worried that maybe you were going to like talk about the frames before I could. No, I wasn't going to talk about the frames because like. Great.

Much like the frames, I was above it. Yeah, of course. But much like the frames, sometimes I have to get down in the muck. That's what I've been saying. Now, weenie of the week. My weenie of the week is a man by the name of Dexter Morgan. I think that the Gracie Abrams fandom writing it, making a petition, I'm always talking about how toxic stan culture can be. And like, this is the perfect example. It's such crazy, truly mentally ill behavior. It's embarrassing. And the fact that it got to Gracie is even more embarrassing. Yeah.

And that's just weenie-like behavior, honestly. The people who created, I don't know their real names, but it was definitely, like, a group of three people who, like, thought they were, like, really about to slay. The people who made that petition? Weenie. Majorly weenie-like behavior. My weenie of the week, very innocuous yet upsetting, and something that has stayed with me, is that JoJo swiped left for Raymond on Raya. Girl, what are you doing? Seriously, what are you doing? Like, we...

There has to be more to this story because, well, you just really thought the moment had passed. Like, no, this would be the greatest love story ever told. The greatest love story this town had ever seen. So until I get a better reason, that's my weenie.

- I love that. That's our show. What a great week, Jack's first week in the new studio as always. - Done and dusted. - I feel like every day we got so much better, closer. We're making so much progress every single day with our lighting, with our audio, with our video. I feel like we're at a really good place. I feel like yesterday's episode was the first one we like actually really nailed. - That was the best it ever went. - It was the best it ever went. So hopefully this episode just has the same exact trajectory. I want nothing different, please.

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