Tick Tock, TikTok: Tuesday, January 7th, 2025
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- Good morning millennials. - Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday, the first Tuesday in 2025. - Is it? Are you sure about that? - Well, it's the seventh. - It's today's January 7th. - It could, could be. Actually I feel like-- - It is, it is. - It's what?

The first Tuesday in 2025. Okay, thank you for cutting off what was otherwise a brilliant intro. Hey, Jax, how you doing? We had to fact check. We had to give a community note. You did? That's kind of like what makes us special and different is the lack of-

Right out the gate. Not only is today the first Tuesday in 2025, it's the first Deer Toasters in 2025. And the DTQ, the Deer Toasters community, will not be silenced. And we're starting off 2025 with that message. We're putting that forward. Yes. Bring us your ales. Give us your tired, your hungry. I was going to say that. Bring us your tired, your poor. What's it from?

The Statue of Liberty. Classic. Oh, you know, Ben and I were just having this discussion as native, as a native New Yorker. Neither of us have ever been to the Statue of Liberty. Should we do like a day trip? Vlog it for Patreon?

Do not come. I don't think you would like it. I think if you want to visit landmarks, that's like a really fun thing to do. But the Statue of Liberty, like she's a seafaring woman. Yeah. And she is not on land. That had made a good point. Like we probably will have to do those things in the next couple of years, God willing, you know, with our growing family. Like why do it twice? Yeah.

- 100%. And it will be like really fun when you do it with your family, like seeing it through their eyes. And if you go now, you're gonna be like this old thing. - That's why like Ben sometimes is like, should we go to Disney? I've heard it's really fun, you can drink. And I'm like, no. - Just like wait a couple years. - No, what if we didn't? - I feel like I've got some Diz in me soon. I haven't planned anything, but. - I was actually thinking when the next time you're gonna go to Disney is.

I should go in the next few months. Tis the season for the Diz. Why? Because it's like cool weather and it's not terrible like Chubbub weather.

And it's not like high traffic holiday time. Like things are more quiet here. Like before spring break, we went at this time last year and it was Pargy. That just reminded me of something like, you know, there's so much about pregnancy that reminds me of my former fat life. Like there's just, I'm sorry. I know like when you get pregnant, you're not getting fat. You're building a human, of course. But I would be remiss if I didn't notice the similarities between

And one of them is I get chub rub again. That was something I sort of evolved past. You left behind. Yeah. And no, we're back. And I've been putting, and even chafing between my breasts, lots of different issues. I have a feeling I'm going to lose the ability to cross my legs soon, which is something I just got back with those M pics. So that's upsetting. I'm sorry. Yeah. Just like, that's a little bit of an update about me. Spread them. Spread them. I will be spreading them on the show in the coming months. And I want to hear a word about it.

No, that's fine. Listen as a podcast, you know? Yeah. We're always available as a podcast if you don't like what you see. Anywhere podcasts can be found. Imagine not liking what you see. Hit it. Hit it with the heart. The thing is, I don't check every day to see if we did it. I checked yesterday. We didn't. But I know when we do it, like, the comments are going to go crazy. So I'm just waiting for that moment. Today's a very special day. It is. Because every day on this beautiful planet is a special one. And? Yeah.

And because of what you're doing? Yeah, so we're actually recording today's episode early. So if you're seeing this a little bit earlier, it's one of the things we can thank my coccidinia for. So today I have finally decided to take control of my body and my future and...

seek out some help with my coccidinia. Now I'm limited in my healing options because I'm pregnant. And when I found, when I got my diagnosis at first, I couldn't share it with you guys, but I didn't know I was pregnant. I had like just found out a week before. So I couldn't, couldn't really do anything. This is a physio assist, physiatrist, physio. I'm not sure. Physiologist. No, no. I hadn't heard it like physiatrist. No. Physicist. Oh no, no, no, no, no.

whatever, something with your body, who specializes in pregnant women. - Your body. - Your body. So I don't know if there's gonna be anything she's gonna be able to help me with. This might just have to be something I sit tight with until pregnancy ends, but like- - You'll be sitting tight. - Oh, will I? But just know, like while you're enjoying this episode, I'm taking control of my body and my future. Can you say the same?

I actually personally can. I don't want to like rub anything in. But as you guys know, I've been suffering from sciatica for years. I remember feeling the feeling like right after I had Charlie. And I started to do a little digging and one of the notes said like magnesium can help. I've started taking magnesium at night. You guys, I'm cured.

So not entirely like getting up from the makeup chair this morning hurt a little bit, but like compared to where I was, like I'm having no issues. And so now when we go back to the conversation of whose condition was worse, the fact that yours was like easily treatable with a vitamin, we are not the same. We don't know that yours isn't. Oh, and I do have sciatica and over winter break, I actually got locked in like a sciatica position. I could not get up off a chair. It was actually really scary. I thought I was going to call an ambulance. So I know what sciatica is like and I know what bad sciatica is like. And let me tell you, she doesn't have a thing on coccidonia.

That's not what the commenters said. I think it is. No, they said it can be really painful. But I just wanted to share, if you're suffering from what I had been describing all this time, a pinched nerve in the cheek, running down the leg, couldn't put your shoes on, magnesium. The commenters also said they didn't hear a difference in my laugh, and they're wrong. That's hurtful. I know. They're out to get us. Last night before bed, I don't know what compelled me. Oh, because it snowed yesterday, and it reminded me of something. Every time when

Every now and then I realize there's something about me that Ben doesn't know, like a little tidbit from childhood. And I share it with him. And last night I realized there's like this thing that I had to call Margo. I feel like you don't even know about it either. It snowed yesterday and it reminded me of this thing me and Margo used to do when we were kids. And I was telling Ben about it and I was wheezing so hard. I had the craziest laugh. Like how anybody could say my laugh isn't different. They don't know Charity. They haven't been here long enough. It's giving death. Like you obviously don't know me.

What do you used to do when it snowed? So, you know, growing up, me and Margo shared a room. You and Olivia had your own rooms and me and Margo. So me and Margo definitely have like our own history, our own herstory, excuse me. You do, you do. And like many kids our age, like we were obsessed with snow days. Like we used to like literally like beg for them. Like actually, like when I was telling you about the story last night, I was so embarrassed. Like...

- I didn't even get it out. And then I had to call Margo 'cause it's about this song that we made up and she was singing it like we were actually crying on the phone, okay? So Margo and I, when we, you know, like you would see on the news, there was a lot of anticipation, like it might snow tomorrow. - Yeah, yeah. - And so we wouldn't know if school was canceled yet. We were gonna wake up and find out. And we would just sort of try

Manifest. Yeah, put out positive energy. And we thought that like if we made up this song and we sang it and did this like special dance, that it would in turn create a snow day. Now, obviously that as a concept like isn't embarrassing or weird. But when I tell you what the song was, like you will die. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, you have no idea what this is. Sing it. I actually can't sing it without like turning purple. I was, Jackie, I was like.

Like, honestly, I'll look away. Maybe close your eyes. I need to give you a little bit of a background because you're going to be like, why does it sound like that? You're not going to get the song the first time you hear it. Okay. Oh, okay. It's a couple of listens before it's taken. After the second and third time, you're going to be like, okay.

It's a bop. I don't know. It was kind of prolific of us because we were super young. We were basically trying to channel the weather gods in a sort of tribal-like sense. So when you hear this song, it's very African rain dance. I don't know where we picked this up. Maybe we copied it from a movie or a TV show, but I'm pretty sure it's original. It's not English. It just sounds. I actually am so embarrassed. Margot is going to kill me.

I called Margo. She thought someone died. I was laughing so hard. I was like crying. Okay. So it goes like this. And I need you to actually look away. I'm looking away. I'm going to drink my, actually, I won't drink my coffee. I could choke. And imagine me and Margo, we put all of our pillows in a circle and we would like do this dance where like we would go right arm, left arm, right arm, left arm, like very tribal, very like

I don't know exactly what we were, like very Aztec almost. I'm not sure. I mean, I'm sure this is offensive, but it's what we were, like we were literally six years old. And I don't know what reminded me of it. I haven't thought of it in so long. And I was telling Ben this story about it. It's so embarrassing. I remember like the actual sounds we were making. So I had to call Margo. Did she fill in the blanks? Of course.

I think that like of all the things she thought she was gonna pick up the phone and hear this was like literally, I could have given her a million guesses. She was never gonna guess this. Like it had been completely erased from my mind, but it was a thing we did for years. Let me tell you, it never worked. Like we would wake up the next morning. - Yeah, I was gonna say, what's the success rate? - Like maybe once. And we were like, it worked.

Oh my God. I was laughing so hard. Ben was like, are you okay? And I was like, no. That is so funny. I love like how our sister Margo was just like classic, cool New York City influencer. And like, we will humble her. Like on this show, in her life, like reminding her that she's just your kid sis. She's just a member of a tribe. She's just someone's little sister. No, and it was such a little sister behavior. Dancing around with her big sister. With her musical big sister. Because you know it was your idea. Because you know that's not a Margo initiated game. That's not a Margo.

Oh my God. Like she's such a good little sister. Like, cause we all could see you doing it. Of course. No, no. And she went along with it. And like, I really, I remember like convincing her that like it had powers, you know? And she was like, okay. Like she had nothing to lose. Like, and she woke up the next day and there wasn't a snow day. She, she would have been like, well, maybe if I did the dance, there would have been. Maybe if I danced harder, if I sang louder. For her life.

Oh God, I actually can't breathe. We were such freaks. We did a lot of weird, we did the classic as kids, like making up dances. We were really into gymnastics. - We were those kids. - Let's not forget our favorite game, PAG. - Popular and Geek. - Nobody wants to be cast as the geek. Let me tell you, it was always me or Margo. - Yeah. - And we would basically just mimic the movies, Mean Girls. Some of us would pretend to be cheerleaders and others- - We were like actresses. - And the other one would hold a book.

It's so crazy that we've like gone on to do great things. Just because. It was definitely touching. No, I'm crying. Like serious freaks. Yeah. Oh my God. Hysterical. That's like sibling. Like you can, you can never explain it. Like when I'm, when you guys are listening to this, you probably think it sounds so weird, but like. But then.

But then I see these memes of like people, like it's a video and someone will be like me and my cousin doing a dance so that we could stay up later. And I'm like, oh my God, that's, we all had the same childhood. So I actually think a lot of people relate. A lot of people were making up dances and like doing shit like this. I think making up dances was like by far the most normal thing we did. Like, and it was obviously very political because we like grew up in a family that really respected the order of birth and like,

Olivia took that role really seriously. We still do. We still do. But Olivia, like, at the time was definitely on a little bit of, like, a power trip. 100%. Any activity that was, like, unsupervised, Olivia was in charge, and she knew it. And she wielded it like a knife. Like, she was actually, like, not a just ruler at all. Yeah. She was always the coach. She was always the lead choreographer. Yeah. Like, did she even have the talent to be those things? Like, it wasn't a meritocracy. No, but she had a computer in her bedroom. So, like, when we needed music and stuff like that, she provided the equipment. So...

So in addition to being the eldest and her room, like actually your room was the biggest, but she just like, she had power and she knew it and she ran with it. Yeah. And I'd be lying if I said like I wasn't harboring a little bit of resentment. Yeah. Oh, but at any time we would like cook or bake. Yeah.

Which was not like a lot, but she was always like head chef. Well, that's an issue that you would have because you were always cooking with her, like watching the Food Network. So true. It's amazing. I never cooked. I turned out like unable to cook a single thing. No, no. Actually tried. I spent my childhood cooking. Can you believe that? I spent my childhood not. I actually spent my childhood watching Law and Order.

and Food Network, you cannot understate the importance of that network in your lives. - You know what's so funny, 'cause when we think about, and I wrote about this in my book a lot, I feel like so much of who I am, like my personality and the fact that we do this for a living, is the fact that we watched a lot of television growing up, and I was like one of the only girls that I knew like in high school who had a TV in my bedroom. And now we're all like screen-phobic, and we're like screen, screen, screen, and meanwhile, like I would not be who I am if it weren't for the television of yore.

I agree. It's definitely an interesting thing. And I do, I watch so much TV and look at me and now I choose not to. And you're literally like a success. I think there's like a lot of different things happening. This is how I, first of all, like when your kids are two, like that's not what we were. We weren't two watching TV. No, but we were young. We were like 10. Yeah. And like, but still it's like we were,

- More so than like a toddler. - Yeah, of course, of course. - More so than a baby. - Are you saying you think you'll ease up on screens like when your kids are like eight? - Yes, but then my other issue is that TVs have changed because now there are these like huge, big colorful things. The TV in your room, Claudia, was like the size of a computer monitor, like a laptop. And you were so far away, like you weren't like zoned in on it the way that people sit in front of like a huge screen these days. - No, also like as kids, we used to get in trouble for sitting too close to the TV. We used to have to like back up.

- Yeah, and like the TV, the quality just like wasn't what it is now. Like the colors and which is nice when you're watching Wicked, you know? - I'm just pointing it out, just pointing it out. - No, no, I think about that all the time. Like even Gary Gennetti, like he's such a success because he was addicted to television. - Yes, and that's a theme. And when we read Kiki Palmer's book, it was like she literally saw her life throughout television. Like so many successful people, especially in entertainment, like were shaped by modern entertainment.

- Yeah, but a lot of people probably are also couch potatoes. - Yeah, yeah, for every Kiki Palmer, there's like 11 couch potatoes. - For every Gary, there's a Larry. - Yeah, it's so true.

I love that. I don't know. You know, it's all in flux, turtulum. We actually have quite a bit to get into today because we have remaining stories. Actually, like just for a regular Tuesday, the story is a very good Sunfoster and Hugh Jackman. But there are a couple of things that we need to- A couple of odds and ends from the Globes. And then a couple other tings we need to discuss. And then dear toasters, as you said. So I guess we could just without further ado rip off the bandaid. Yeah.

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Like, do you have any resolutions that you're trying to do? Like, are you trying like new year, new you? I am not. I meant to talk about that on yesterday's episode, but it got like lost in the flush. I think the last couple of years I've had resolutions that I really stuck to that I'm really proud of. Like two years ago, I was like, it's the year of yes. I'm going to say yes to life and go to things and take trips and go to the edge of a cliff. Last year, I wanted to quit my vape and I did. I thought I actually had one thought this year. Mm-hmm.

that I'm not gonna do. But I saw a TikTok that was really compelling. This girl was like, she was in her car and she was talking about how much she loves the toast. But she was like, my kid is just like repeating so much stuff and I can't listen to the toast in the car anymore 'cause like the Swirlies love to drop like a big F bomb. And I was like, ugh, like the video like really spoke to me. I was like, shit, that fucking sucks.

For you and for me. And I was... It does stink for us because eventually she misses enough episodes. I know. She might not feel caught up. She might drop off. So it crossed my mind to like maybe work on my cussing. While this is like a show for the swirlies, it's also a comedy show. And like, I just feel like it's funny. Like, I don't know. I struggle because... What about extraneous cussing? You know? Because sometimes...

It's not necessary. Sometimes it is. Yeah, but that's just like a lot of mental gymnastics to do when I'm like trying to be myself and be funny and like, you know, get to work, get to the ads, get to your toasters. I know, but you're also, you are probably going to want to tone it down when you have a child. So it's better to start now. Another thing. Not that I'm perfect. Another thing I was thinking about, because there's definitely like an AI program that you can run your audio through that like bleep out any curses. Like what if every day we just released two episodes, like clean and explicit? Yeah.

- But then like, what about the charts? 'Cause then we're splitting our listenership. - Oh shit. - Like we live for seeing ourselves high on the charts. - I just wanna say this is something Apple should offer just between you and I. - Yeah, that is something Apple- - You should be able to choose, like choose the episode and be like, we'd like to hear this clean or explicit and they bleep out the, okay, free idea, somebody should do that. - Yeah, I think that's a really good idea. - You guys have suggestions, sound off in the comments. Like it's something I've been thinking

I just don't know if I'm really capable of stopping cursing. It's who I am. So it was like my resolution, maybe even the last two years, it's always something that's been top of mind. I definitely decreased usage, but not eradicated completely. But now if it's potentially affecting our business, we have to talk about that. And especially as like we all grow together, I feel like we grow in tandem with our sisters of the toasters. If we work in tandem. If they feel like...

they can't listen to us in this new stage of their lives. Like that's not good. I know. I know. Something to think about. Agreed. Definitely, definitely food for thought. Yep.

I have a lot of resolutions. Okay, let's hear them. I'm like really trying. I'm going so hard on New Year and New Me. And like in a real way, like first of all, drinking more water, drinking water in the morning before I have my coffee. I need to stop drinking my coffee like right when I'm rubbing my eyes. Like I need to drink water first. So, so far that's going well, but then I have to pee so bad during the toast. It's like kind of not a good thing. I know. Of course, eating healthier. Right now I'm doing Saqqara, so that covers me for the week. But then, you know, going forward, more protein. Yeah.

More healthy. Yep. I do okay with that. I do. You do. And then also like being neater, like more...

of things in my house. I love that. More scrubbing, like cleaner spaces. I'm all for decluttering. Like more throwing everything in the garbage all the time. More sweeper. Sweeping. More sweeping. It's true. Yep. Swiper no swiping. I started following like more creators who like are comfort creators who also do like a lot of cleaning. Like I'm watching them do their laundry. Organic.

Organized. Yeah, they're like wiping down their counters. I'm buying their cleaning products. More of that. More productivity. That's a resolution I can get behind.

And I would also love to, this today is actually great because this is unlocking an extra hour and a half in my day by starting so early. I would love to unlock my mornings with more productivity. Yeah. Well, you could be one of those moms who like wakes up at 5 a.m. and like goes to the gym before her kids get up. The thing is I couldn't. Okay. But like maybe getting dinner in a crock pot, like before the toast, that way in the time I'm usually cooking, I could be doing something else. I like that. Time management. Time management, stuff like that. Let's beg. Let's get to the story, shall we? Yes.

First up, the biggest news for us of the day, Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster have stepped out hand in hand for a dinner date in LA with People Magazine. So it's important to note that like everything about this is scandalous.

scheduled, staged, coordinated with People Magazine. So like they've made the decision. They are coming out publicly. They should have gone to the Golden Globes together, but like I won't say anything. They are ready to take on the world. So she, they could not have gone to the Golden Globes because she is like previewing a new play, Once Upon a Mattress. And so it had two big opening nights and he was there both nights.

So there was a lot of whispers like, oh, what is he doing there? He must be. And now this picture just confirms what we all knew. What is he doing there? Like we know. I didn't even know he was at her play. I should have known that. The fact that they're older and more mature, like makes me think that like, and while this is definitely like coordinated and like a planted photo, which makes me cringe, it does give me joy that like it's a well thought out,

and like they are really serious about each other because, you know, they both left their marriages. If they're not serious, they wouldn't have shared. And if they didn't think this relationship was going anywhere, they were going to stay in private until they figured it out. So the fact that they're choosing to share this because it's clearly, you know, a staged photo makes me think that the relationship is in like a really healthy place. Yes. And I feel like...

maybe the relationship got out before they were ready, but everything that they've done, he left his wife a few years ago. She left her husband maybe six months ago. And like now they're coming forward with their relationship. So it's been months of each of them being like technically single. It's seemingly kosher. No, it is kosher. And if we didn't know that they had been dating this whole time, they would have stepped out today and we'd be like, oh, how beautiful. So I think they are just like really trying to do everything by the book.

And they are like, what else can they be doing? It's not their fault that they fell in love. They're doing everything right. And instead of being like caught out pictures of them, they're like putting out pictures to the fans, to you and I. Yeah. And they're really trying to be by the book. I love that. And to be clear, while like one could poke holes in their timeline, like people are not. The general reception to this is overwhelmingly positive. I'm sure there's like people being like, well, she was spotted here wishing her anniversary. Whatever. I know. I think they think.

They definitely fell in love while one or both of them were married. Yeah, well, they did The Music Man together. And that was like a-

There's a difference between like accidentally falling in love, acting on it, like these things. And I think that as best as they could handle it, there's not a right way to go about it. It's an unfortunate thing that happens. And unless it's true love, like stay where you're at, okay? And I don't want to get ahead of myself, but it appears as though it's true love. So that's the thing. It's true love. And who's not getting behind true love? Now, what are your thoughts on being in a committed relationship with somebody who's in the exact same field as you? And it's a field that's quite competitive. Theater. Theater.

Yeah. You mean, but also not theater feels like less risky than like Hollywood. Well, yes. Theater is like, everyone's a little bit more normal and down to earth. Um, and you can live like a quiet life. Like you do your shows, you go home. It's very routine. Yeah. I think, uh, what I, what I meant more theater and like at their level, you know? So I think it just depends on the person. I think they both straddle both. It just feels like they're both doing more plays now.

Oftentimes two big stars can't be together. They want like, there's a million things, competitiveness, but these two, as much as we don't know them the way that they seem like grounded people. Yeah. Yeah. But do you think it's like a little too close for comfort ever?

I think it would, yeah, I think it would be for most people. But some people feed off of that energy and they're collaborative and there are plenty of successful relationships in the biz, a handful of them, not a lot, but some. - Oh, you know what that just reminded me of a great Nikki Glaser joke when she was talking to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban and she was just like,

I love that you don't stop playing guitar. So Nicole needs to leave the house as much as possible and do 85 films a year. Like so funny. And we also like, thank you for doing a long bit on Nicole and Keith. So we got to watch them interact for like 15 seconds. And I just, I just fucking love them.

Yeah. Same. I don't know who I like more in the relationship. Like, that's how you know it's a good couple. I actually think I might like Keith Urban more, but that's just because of my tastes. Also, you know what's funny? I feel like a few months ago I said on the show that, like, Nicole Kidman, like, needs to do something other than, like, all the roles she's been playing. And so she did Baby Girl. And, like, I'm not going to see it. I'm kind of like, I miss Nicole Kidman. Yeah, wait. She definitely...

Like she made a choice. Like, I don't know when to shift a little bit. She was doing a lot of the same. And even the perfect couple. She probably filmed perfect couple and had the same feeling we all had, which was like, I need to get out of my box. And so did something else. But now I don't know if she feels this way, but I'm like, okay, I'm going to do it.

- I'm ready for more Nicole Kidman. - Yeah, I have not seen "Baby Girl", although I ended up on "Baby Girl Talk" where different films, like the more controversial ones from the film, like people were filming it in theaters. And so I think I saw what I needed to saw, like I saw her drinking the milk, you know? - I don't know. - Would you like for me to tell you? 'Cause it's not what it sounds like, it's worse. - I don't know, but can I tell you the funniest thing? - What? - Dana over winter break, she went to the movies with her in-laws and saw "Baby Girl". - Oh my God, oh my God.

Oh my God, that's terrible. I saw this hilarious TikTok of a girl who like over the holidays went to the movies with her parents and they're walking out and she's filming her dad and he's just like this, I don't know if they were from New York. What did they see? Baby girl. And he was giving like old Brooklyn. He was like, these people are fucking disgusting. Like, um,

Because the premise of the movie is that like Nicole Kidman starts an affair with like this young guy at work. And so I thought it was like a May, December type of movie, but it's really not about that. It's like the kid in the film is like freaky and he makes like Nicole do freaky stuff. And it's like submissive. So he like makes her pretend to be like a cat and she like drinks milk from a bowl and then like has to stand in the corner. And like, she's literally, she's looking at the wall. Like she's timeout. Like it was seriously, it was disturbing and I will not be seeing it. Um,

But I agree it points to a seismic shift in Nicole Kidman. You don't want to go see it with your in-laws? Nah. Nah.

- That's really crazy of Dana, she's actually crazy. - She had no idea. - Well, that's unfortunate beyond. - Yeah, classic Dana. Speaking of, we recorded "The Residents" yesterday. - "The Residents"? - "The Redheads" we recorded yesterday. The book was actually, I think everyone really liked the book and we're about to ruin it for you. - Oh good. - Seriously, seriously ruin. - Love that. - Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

If we must move past these two, then yeah, sure. I know. We'll always find a way to bring it back to them. We will keep tabs on them throughout the years that they will spend together. Yeah. Many, many years. Our next story is a couple Golden Globes odds and ends. Okay.

First up is the Demi Moore, Kylie Jenner snubbing. Yeah. This video is going viral of Demi going up to the unknown table. That's Timothy's table with Kylie and Elle Fanning. And who's the other girl? I don't know her, but she's so pretty. Yeah. Yeah.

And she's like talking to the two girls completely like ignoring Kylie. Kylie's like really excited for her and then like realizes she's being ignored and turns around. Yeah. She's like smiling at me and she's like trying to get her attention and like interject in the conversation. And then like, and then me goes like, you two look so beautiful. And that's when Kylie turns around. And I saw this video going around so many times and I was like,

people things get taken out of context like stop like she didn't snub her and then I watched it like really closely and I watched Kylie yeah and you can see Kylie felt snubbed and I know that Demi's daughter has also like taken to social media to clarify that she did not snub her but like Demi had just one she was really overwhelmed like she doesn't have anything against Kylie she probably didn't even like notice this girl behind her she knows Elle Fanning really well so like that's where she was focusing I don't

I don't think it was an intentional stuff. And I had the same exact reaction. Like when people were like making this video go around, I'm like, oh, everybody just wants to like bring Kylie down, like classic Kardashian haters. And then I watch it in full. I was like, damn. And could I just say, we've all been there where you're like trying to interject in a conversation. Like literally the people are not fucking letting you in. So I had a lot of sympathy. She's just like sitting there smiling. And she's just at those events, she's really like Timothy's plus one. I feel like she really doesn't want to detract. And so whether or not,

to me like knew she was that Kylie was next to her, it's just like Timothy's girlfriend. Like, like it was, it was a snub whether it was intentional or not. I couldn't say, I don't know her, but you could see Kylie felt snubbed and she like turns around and picks up her camera. Like I just,

- Anyone who hurts Kylie like hurts me. - I know and things like this don't really happen to the Kardashians 'cause like the main girls like Kim, Khloe and Kris, they know everyone. Like they are movers and shakers and they could go to the Grammys, they could go to the Oscars and they would know everyone. Sort of how the Met Gala became like Kardashian Fest. Like they are very popular and well liked amongst celebrities in all different industries, whether it's music or film.

Kylie definitely keeps to herself and go into the Golden Globes now for the second year in a row. It's always like a step outside her comfort zone. She very much operates in like sort of the influencer-y type of space. So,

I felt really bad for her. We're just not used to seeing the Kardashians in a position like this because every room they enter, like they are always the most well-known and even if not well-known, kind of popular. They're social people and they know everyone. They invite everyone to their holiday party. Like Kris is, she has her hand in everything. And like Kris has her own, and like each one of them has so many friends that together the whole family is friends with the whole industry. Yeah. But except Kylie, she's really like to herself. Yeah. Yeah.

So I don't know if there was like malicious intent, like I don't like Kylie Jenner, but like it was, it was a, let me tell you something to me more is almost 60 years old. She's not starting drama with Kylie Jenner. Like she was over, like she had just won. It was like this huge moment for her. She ran into somebody she knew. I think that it was like completely unintentional having said that.

painful to watch. Yeah. Her daughter, Demi's daughter, said, hi, add everyone, but really press, nipping this straight in the bud. We spent New Year with Elle, so connecting with her after a win was a very organic thing to do. This angel was in total shock and delight and moving throughout a warm room of well-wishers. There was not a snub of any sort. Had she seen KJ wanting to congratulate her, she would have fully given her the time and space. Literally, just give it all a break. Oh, I'm so sorry not to make everything about me, but I do feel like a personal reference would be helpful here. I actually...

met Demi Moore like somewhat recently. She was asking me 1 million questions about like comedy and podcasting. She was unbelievably nice. It was very disarming. I'm sorry, I totally forgot that. Like I actually kind of- - Where did you meet her? - I don't know her, at a birthday party. - Turtle Lou. - She, I remember me and Ben were like dazzled by her. And I wouldn't say like before, she or her like big box office successes like predates my time a little bit. So I'm not super familiar. I never saw like,

What does she in like Kill Bill? Like what's the thing that- - Like G.I. Jane? - Yeah, you know what I mean. So I really wasn't familiar and I wasn't expecting to be dazzled beyond. Like she had literally no idea what I did for a living. She was so curious, genuinely. And she was like, "And as a woman, that's amazing." Like she was so fucking nice and she has this like little dog that weighs half a pound that she brings everywhere with her. I forgot, she's unbelievably nice to like a nobody like me. I'm telling you, she didn't stop Kylie. Oh my God, not me forgetting my personal reference.

So do you think she just didn't know that was Kylie next to her and just thought it was like a rando? I think there was like, like she didn't even care to turn around. It couldn't have been anyone. Like she was so excited about her win and it's this big night for her. And she ran into this girl that she loves. Like, I just think of all the things happening in front of her. It was too much to even look to the left. Okay. That's what I think. And you know what? I'm trusting my fave.

Love that. Yeah. Also from the Golden Globes, little part two, is that Kate Beckinsale and Matt Rife were spotted kissing at Netflix's Golden Globes bash. Yes, they were. I saw that before I went to bed last night. I was disturbed. You were disturbed. Let me say something.

I don't like Matt Rife. And not for the reasons that, like, everybody does. Like, he made a joke about, like, people on the spectrum and people found it offensive. Like, a joke is a joke. Like, I actually don't care. I just, like, find him annoying. Like, his face. And so, I also don't understand, like, how he rose to fame so quickly. I just, like, none of it makes sense to me. So, I'm not, like...

championing him, if you know what I mean. Also, he notoriously was not very nice to Brooke Schofield, former Toast guest, so I stand with my girl Brooke. So I'm just not, I'm not like, I'm not a champion of his. And so I don't like to see him winning, honestly. Like, that's it. Yeah, that's a win for him. They also dated in the past. And then when she started dating Pete Davidson, he like told Pete to be careful. So there's like weird history behind

And Jackie Brooks Schofield is involved in some capacity. Like before he really, really blew up. Like I think she was dating him and he literally pretended like he didn't know who she was. Like something really crazy. She's talked about it on a bunch of podcasts. I can't remember if she talked about it on the toast, but I feel like I would remember. So no, it's like a weird story. He like, he gives me really bad vibes. Yeah. People really love him though.

Like his fans. Oh, okay. Well, that's good. Yeah. So I just feel like it's like you either are one of his fans or like you, you really dislike him or to me like apathetic. Yeah. No thoughts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I happen to really like Kate Beckinsale. You've met her too. I have met her too. And she's unbelievably cool. Like, yeah, fucking like we were at a restaurant. Sorry. I have to tell the story. And she was driving home and she, we were at Craig's. So like, you know, there's paparazzi outside. And she was like, do you want to lift home? And I was like, duh. Cause my hotel was right by her house. And she was like,

Okay, and I was like, oh man, I'm literally gonna be walking out of Craig's like with Kate Beckinsale, the paparazzi is gonna go nuts. But she's Kate Beckinsale. She literally had like a special exit, like with an umbrella and in the back and like the car. We drove right past paparazzi, nobody even saw us. I was like, oh, this is great, thanks. Thanks for the ride. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Which is number three. Yeah.

Confirmation that Zendaya and Tom Holland are engaged. Details are emerging about the betrothal. So they are engaged. A family source confirmed to People. TMZ was the first to report the news. According to the outlet, he proposed at one of Zendaya's family homes over the holidays.

A source told people that everyone close to them knew an engagement was happening, just not when. The source said that he had been keen to propose to Zendaya for a while. They said he's always been crazy about her. He always knew she was the one. They have something very special. They give Paige and Craig, like the guy just being so obsessed with the girl, like it's up to the girl when the timeline, you know, I think he would have married her years ago. I sort of thought of these two as like,

In a permanent like domestic partnership. Very Kurt and Goldie and Kurt. Yeah. I wasn't on like ring watch for them. I just felt like, but I guess that's what happens. Like you either...

get married or you break up or sometimes you just stay as you are. But like most of the time it goes one way or the other. So this is really exciting news that we weren't even like waiting for. Didn't even have on our list. I feel like all these people do like predictions for the year. Like this should have been a prediction. But yeah, they're just so settled and everybody's so like used to them and they're so in love and they're so private that I don't even think about their timeline at all. But then it makes you think about Kylie and Timothy, right? Yeah. Because they're together two years now.

Kylie's also never been married. And she is like a relationship girl and they will either like, maybe they wouldn't get married just because there's so much at stake, but have children together. Yeah, maybe. She wants more kids. If this is her man, like that's what they're going to do. That's really crazy. I know, but it feels like really...

I wouldn't even say all this before Zendaya and Tom, because I just feel like they're the two that can be private and date forever. We'll literally never see them on a red carpet together. No reporters ever allowed to ask questions about the other. Yeah, I feel like if they have a big wedding, which I don't even think that they will, like we'll never even see a photo of it. Not even like a Vogue exclusive. Yeah. They're like too big for that. I saw a funny tweet that was like, because she's such a fashion girly, like can you imagine the phone calls like her and Law Roach must be getting now that everyone knows she's engaged? Like I know she has her deal, so like Louis Vuitton, right? Right. But-

She could have any designer in the entire world, like begging at her feet to make a wedding dress. Like who would she go with? Even though I feel like they're literally like courthouse, like Carrie wearing her and the bride wore a dress by no one. No, I feel like they'll have a wedding. It's not going to be like a huge, you know, probably overseas. Yeah. Well, the way that TMZ is reporting that they got engaged was like also like really sweet, intimate family. It was like at Zendaya's family home over the holidays, really intimate, like no drama, no big fireworks. And that's, they're just, there's such the real deal. Yeah.

Yeah. And I know they give us nothing and I respect that entirely. There's literally that one picture of them that she's taking like a mirror photo of him and her in his Spider-Man costume. Like, and they use that for every press article because there's not a single other photo of them. I would love to just see like...

something, you know, like they give us nothing. I feel like she probably thinks she's not going to do the big wedding. Cause they're like so private, whatever. But like, you do get carried away when you're right. She's just a girl, you know? And I still, I don't think that means she's going to have a 300 person crazy wedding, but like,

You're getting married, so you want a wedding dress. Of course you want the best, nicest dress made by Christian Dior himself. Right, even if it's like, you know, a casual dress. Yeah, even if it's for a beachside wedding. I could see them doing that, by the way. And then you get the dress, and then you need the wedding to accompany the dress. Well, that's literally the premise of Sex and the City. Like, once you get the venue, and what does she say to Big? You play poker, right? Yeah.

- The dress upped the ante. Like, yeah, it's easy to get carried away. - But I just want to say like that happens. That's real. 'Cause then you have this insane dress and you're like, more people need to see it. It needs to be- - No, but like-

It needs to be in this place. She's completely valid for that. The only mistake she made, and it was literally her fatal flaw nail in her coffin, was she so did not read the man. She didn't know the guy she was marrying at all. Because if you did, you would know that this would really be like a turnoff to him. And he was visibly getting more distant, more angry, and she just ignored it. Hey!

fairy dress. Like, grow up. Yeah, big dope energy. D'Andeo would never do that. Like, she knows Tom. And by the way, Tom Holland would take the bigger the better more. Would do anything to make her happy. Whatever kind of wedding you want. Right, and that's the difference. Like, Big was like a piece of shit who, like, if Carrie wanted something and it made her so happy, he didn't give a

fuck like that didn't move the needle for him at all literally the day that he proposed her she should have taken him down to the courthouse and married him because like she should have known that his gun could change behind his back no it's like oh you're feeling like marriage today let's do it today because tomorrow who knows

It's so true. So that was her fatal flaw. Like you can't, nobody could get mad at her, of course. And then the library, like it was so, and it's so New York and she's so fabulous. And it was her first wedding. No matter how old you are, like it's always exciting. But her problem was she had no idea who she was marrying or she like seriously didn't care. And she also like lost the plot. Completely. Next story, number four. Are you ready? Very exciting news for everyone because Shark Tank's Kevin O'Leary says that he's nearing a deal to buy TikTok. Okay, I saw this.

Shark Tank's Kevin O'Leary has plans to purchase TikTok during an appearance on the story with Martha McCullum on Monday. He expressed interest in acquiring ownership of the social media platform before it faces a ban in the U.S. on January 19th. So is TikTok going away on January 19th if nothing happens? Okay, I feel like everybody's being really dramatic because what's not being said about January 19th, and President Trump has said, like, he, like, well, he'll help. Like, he doesn't want TikTok out. Like, he's going to figure it out.

So everybody's being really dramatic, being like, follow me on Instagram. You're never going to see me again. But also it's not going away. Let's say, you know, nobody can save it. Right. And everything happens on January 19th. All that means is that it's not going to be available in the app store anymore. So if you already have it downloaded, the app will still work. Like it just, it can't grow. But if you have it, you can keep posting on it and engaging with it. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So sure. No, but that's.

but that's what I heard. That's the vibe. Well, I just want to, I feel like the sale of TikTok has literally been in the conversation since 2020 and that there's like serious privacy issues with the app and it needs to be under new ownership where like those things would be taken care of. And I just want to say like, I nominate Kevin O'Leary. If Kevin O'Leary buys TikTok, I will join. How about that? So I'm reading, cause I just wanted to like,

Fact check myself. Okay. So Trump has urged the Supreme Court to postpone the impending ban, which is set to take effect on January 19th. You become president when? On the 20th. January 20th, yeah. Maybe we'll have one day without the talk. That would be crazy. Oh my God, it'll be like those Lisa Frank memes. The dolphins are jumping, the rainbows are out. Right, it'll be one day like productivity and mental health through the roof. So-

The app is going to be removed. The app is going to be removed from the app store, but like, that's it. The app itself. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well then I guess it would like be like Uno reverse. And the reason why TikTok is upset because it'll, because the app will now become unavailable to half the country that doesn't already use the app. So if you already use it, you should just download it just in case. Um,

Not without the sale. And ending the support service, a quote, this is TikTok statement, will cripple the platform in the US and make it unusable. I don't know if that's true. But if it can't grow, I could see it like dying off. But it's like if you get a new phone. If you get a new phone. Yes. So eventually it would die off. Interesting. Well, I think TikTok needs new ownership. And I think Kevin O'Leary would be amazing. Yeah.

What do you think about Kevin? I'm a big Kevin fan. Having said that, I didn't realize he was like, you know, liquid like that. Like, I know he's got a couple billion. Mm-hmm. But...

How I see things, like doesn't TikTok cost like... Billions? Like more than that? Yeah. Well, he would have like partners and putting together a team, but he also would need the support of Trump to get it through and be able to be the one. Well, I feel like Kevin O'Leary has been like kind of political recently. Like I've seen him on the news a lot. I feel like he's like trying to like start a new...

sort of part of his career, like a little bit more like, a little bit more serious. And this is a kind of a good step. I think he wants to like get in with the admin.

With the admin? Oh, the administration. Administration, yeah. Oh, interesting. And I think this is like a step in the right direction. And I'm sure he has a lot of wealthy friends who like would be down. It's a good investment. TikTok is like a very successful business. So if you can get the money to buy it, like you should. So I'm sure he has like a couple of other billionaires who are more quiet, sort of silent angel investors. Yeah, because people would want to buy it. I mean, if I had the money, I think it's pretty sound investment. People love it. It's like, you can't stop the growth. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, so like kind of countdown to January 19th. This will be interesting. I didn't realize like people have been talking about it, but I kind of checked out cause I'm not on the app and people literally have been saying this for five years. So like it's boy who cried wolf. They literally been saying it's banned. It did not spend like one. It did not spend one day being banned. So I've moved on with my life. Interesting. We just have another like checkpoint coming up that we have to get past. Who knows what's going to happen January 19th.

- Right, okay, I have a lot of like little countdowns. Also Molly May's documentary, January 17th. - Right, right. - Meghan Markle's show this week. - Right, we also working on a personal project, January 28th, I don't know if you know about that. - I am. - Yeah, we're working on a personal project. You obviously didn't look at the timeline that was sent to you yesterday. We had like a time to schedule. - Oh yes, oh sorry, I didn't realize that I didn't, that's sort of like, it's not a hard day, don't you find? It's kind of in flux. - No, I'm actually like counting on it being a hard launch.

I need to find Megan's date because I just keep alluding to it. Yeah, I actually went on Netflix last night to like see if I could watch it and it wasn't there. It's this week. Hold on. I'm getting to the end of the trailer. Oh, I watched the Avicii documentary on Netflix. I think you would like it. I've watched an Avicii documentary in the past before and I really liked it. January 15th. Okay, longer than I thought for Megan. This one is narrated by Beach.

And they have amazing footage. Eventually, obviously, like at some point it stops being narrated by him. But Ben is like such a big Avicii and like house music fan. So I thought it was like a good pop culture thing that we could agree on. And I really enjoyed it. And I learned quite a bit. And honestly, if anybody watches, tell me if you also walked away. Like this, one of my takeaways, which is like seriously the most irrelevant part, like Chris Martin, like was a part of the problem.

- Well, not a part of the problem. That's like an overstatement. But they're talking about these different phases of Avicii's life and there's like a huge phase where he's just genuinely unhappy making music that's like not good and not like from his soul. And he's just saying yes to everything 'cause he's so in demand, he's on tour. It's classic fame.

- Yeah. - Destroyed. And the person they bring in to talk about the time working with them during, working with Avicii during that time is Chris Martin. And Chris Martin's like talking about how, oh, "Sky Full of Stars," it's amazing, it's amazing. But in the context of the documentary, it's like the worst time in Avicii's life. It's like he's putting out, you know, less than stellar music. And it's like, Chris Martin's over here being like, it was so fabulous and he was so busy. And it's like, well, actually that was like the worst time of Avicii's life. That was right before he like sort of crashed out, decided to stop doing live performances.

Took a ton of time off and then came back like much healthier. So I was like, Chris Martin, yeah. I don't know if he knew like in the context of the timeline, like he was going to be like sort of the face of the bad part.

Yeah, but then also- He was a really good doc. The doc is saying he was making like bad music because he was at a low point, but Sky Full of Stars is like one of the biggest songs ever. Yeah, not bad music, but just like not what he- And the documentary really shows, like obviously he really started with like House and EDM, but like this was a person who was so supremely talented at all music. Like he ended up being like just as big of a producer for other people, very like Ryan Tedder than he was as a DJ himself. And so he-

Loved country music and he loved bluegrass like he he could have written anything House was just how he like fell into music when he was a teenager and he realized like as his career progressed It wasn't even his passion so much like DJing and things like that It was just making music any type of music that he thought like he worked with Nile Rodgers. He worked with country soul and

During the Chris Martin time, it was just like everybody wanted to work with him. So he would just say yes to everyone and like bang out a song in a couple of hours. It wasn't meaningful. It wasn't from his soul, you know? Yeah. And he was really insecure about the fact that he didn't play any instruments like super well. So that was something he was actively working on.

interesting maybe I will watch it but I do I feel like the last time an Avicii doc came out like it was a really really good one um and I still have to finish it's so sad I've been watching Aaron Rodgers I was telling you I watched two episodes so far um compelling that that A-Raj yeah he's he's an interesting guy I like that he's an interesting guy

So the ayahuasca stuff like it's not really for me. So but it's it's a necessary part of understanding him. So here we go. But like going on a three day ayahuasca trip. Fuck we go. It's just like not my favorite sort of stuff to watch. Understood. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Is it our fifth and final story that is brought to you by two faced cosmetics? It is. Okay.

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story so Ben and J-Lo have settled their divorce and no one is paying spousal support so Ben and J-Lo I think we already knew this but I was shocked once again did not have a prenup in this little trip of theirs but they have settled their divorce like totally amicably in a nutshell they each walk away with what they eventually

individually acquired during the marriage, the money Ben earned from his various movie projects as his, and the same goes for JLo, what she earned during their two-year marriage, and neither will pay spousal support to one another. What is most notable, though, is that Ben started his very successful production company, Artist's Equity, in 2022 while he was married to JLo, and he will be keeping all of that, even though she technically- She could have. Yeah, but she didn't. But when you're both so individually successful, like-

- It's fine, you know? - Yeah, no, it's fine, but-- - Do you really just wanna get out of the marriage and like put this chapter behind you?

Don't go. Right. But you would think that that would happen more often. And like, because it's so amicable, it's like they, they must've had some sort of like unspoken prenup and they really trusted each other and no one hurt the other badly enough to want to hurt them back. No. And this is nice to hear. I was just watching a Tik TOK video. Apparently like Halle Berry has like one of the worst track records for like spousal support and settlements that she's had to pay. She's been in four relationships, three of them marriages, but the fourth, she has a child with the person. So she pays $1,000.

child support and oh my god this video was just breaking my heart i'm surprised she doesn't work more like she needs like she's literally she gave so much money in settlements to her ex-husband if you have to give it all away devastating the more she works the more she has to give my heart was breaking for her in this video it was like an ai generated video do you know hallie berry's crazy divorce like and i was like no i don't let's watch um and i agree i'm shocked that this doesn't happen more within hollywood where like marriage is sort of like

This flimsy thing. Everybody has their own individual businesses. Success. Like, yes, some people are way more wealthy than others. But with a marriage like this, a lot of people marry people who are, like, of equal value. And so I'm surprised this doesn't happen more. Especially if you just want to, like, not drag it through the courts. Not go through mediation. Like, just buy. Sometimes those celebrities marry nobodies. I.e. Harley Berry. Like, people who don't even have jobs. And then...

you're in trouble. Yeah. No, I actually, I thought this was quite remarkable. It was mediated by Laura Wasser. Who's like the divorce attorney to the stars. However, it just seemed like she was also just spotted JLo going to Ben's house like hours before this. So everything is like really good. Why did they get married and why did they get divorced? I don't know. This remains like one of the weirdest sagas, like how he was engaged to her, married Jennifer Garner, divorced Jennifer Garner, married JLo, divorced JLo. And now they're all best friends.

Yeah, and all their kids seem to really get along, and they seem to have really good step-parent relationships. Even J-Lo, after being split from Ben, was spotted with some of Ben and Jen's kids, which is weird because you weren't a step-mom to them for that long. You could move on. No, it is extremely quizzling.

In a good way. Like, this is nice, like, kind of sort of utopic, utopian. We're just using, like, a bunch of words. I don't even know if quizzling is the right word. I feel like quizzling is not. No, I feel like quizzling, like, you mean, like, confusing. Traitor, collaborator. Oh, no. Like, you meant, like, puzzling. Yeah. Puzzling. Puzzling the source. Finding the right words these days is just not my strong suit. I know, but at least you have an excuse. Like, I really don't. It's so true. It's incredibly...

mystifying. I love that. Are you on thesaurus.com? Yes. And I find it a bit unfathomable if I'm being honest, how bewildering this could all be. Bewildering. That's a really good word here. Yeah. It's pretty incomprehensible. I find it guffawing if I'm being honest. I'm really perplexed.

Our show is not over yet because it is Tuesday, which these days means Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where you guys write in and we do our best to help you out with what you're going through. I will say like at the end of last year, I felt the girlies were going through a lot, but it's also the time of year.

And I just want to say, based on the submissions that I read through this morning, like the girlies are okay. They find themselves in like kind of funny, like pickles. Like a lot of these made me chuckle. None of the circumstances are dire. And for that, like, I think it's good. We needed a break because dear toaster takes a lot on that too. We carry those loads. So if you ever want to write in, it's deartoasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down. There's a little submission box. Both ways are completely anonymous and we'd love to help you out.

Hey, Swirlies. The craziest thing happened to me, and am I okay, and am I in the wrong? I went out the night before Thanksgiving, as usual, blacked out. A guy who I've liked for a really long time, and now is recently single, took me home from the bar, by choice, like I was fine, and I was absolutely obliterated. I passed out in his bed, then threw up in my sleep, and obviously in his bed. He went...

He went off on me. He screamed, texted me. He ordered an Uber using my Apple wallet, sent me away by myself. I threw up in the Uber and the next morning he sent me a link to a remote that I threw up on and said, buy it. Am I crazy or is this man nuts? Sincerely, a toaster who had just had the spins and low key still has a crush. Okay. So many things to say. First of all, even if he didn't act so horribly, like we're writing him off because he's a bad person, like not compassionate whatsoever. Like,

when this happens it's really hard to come back from so even if you still liked him and he handled it like kind of well like it's kind of hard for him to see you you sometimes I remember like I heard some stories about like people like oh and they fell in love like never fucking happens okay it's it's true but now let's talk about the fact like run for your life this man is a horrible person like when you go to a bar and you bring home someone like that is drunk this is not out of the realm of possibility it's true people get sick like don't especially on blackout wednesday

That is so crazy. I like, I don't even want you to buy the remote, but then like, he's going to hate you forever. But like, you need to hate him back. I hate him. To be clear, like you throwing up in his bed and on his shit, like it's so annoying for him. Like I'm sympathetic. Like, so you came to my house and you shit everywhere. Like,

I feel like this reminds me of the book. Do you ever read The Hating Game? No. So they're, like, these two coworkers who hate each other, and they're, like, on, like, a company trip, and the girl gets really sick. Like, the death story. And the guy who, like, she hates is, like, so sweet and compassionate, and, like, that's why she falls in love with him, whatever. And, like, how people treat you when they're sick is, like, a real testament to, like, the type of people they are. And, like, obviously, it's not always...

you know, beautiful and comfortable when someone's sick, they're vomiting, sharting, whatever. And the fact that this guy's initial reaction was so fucking nasty. Like this is not a compassionate person. This is not the type of person you want to be in a relationship with. So I, the fact that you still like him, like you need to work on that. Like 1000% to work on that. And like, he doesn't like you. He didn't take care of you. And worse than just like being like, and not being like,

sweet about it that he was mean about it like it's not a nice person that's not your person so like you need to like actually forget him starting today you need to get mad like no like mean yeah yeah but like what don't even message him being mad like because mad requires like you need to like forget him him ordering an uber like i'm making you pay for it like i'm putting you in an uber so drunk like that like sick

And it's just like, that's bad. That's not a good guy. Agreed. Agreed. And you know, it's important to find the lesson, right? I know. And I feel like sometimes when you're so close to it and like when you're in that stage of your life, like you don't realize how serious these things are and you're just like, oh my God, I was drunk. And it's a crazy thing that happened. But like us being, you know, the grannies, I can put you in danger at this situation. Like that's a bad situation. Agreed. And that's a bad guy. I agree.

Hey, Swirly's major crisis situation. My boyfriend that's about to move in with me told me he snooped through my iPad and found text messages between me and my girlfriends where we were talking about guys I dated before and around the months that I first matched with my now boyfriend on Hinge.

He asked me a ton of questions about it. It was seemingly fine. He said everything was fine and it should be since we were not in a relationship at the time, but he then disclosed that he found old nudes of mine in my camera roll the next day. And I'm seriously pissed now. If I wanted him to see those photos, I would have sent them to him. I feel like a serious boundary has been crossed while I was willing to forgive the text message snooping, but this seems to be on the verge of unforgivable. Am I overreacting? Help me. P.S. He did apologize and admit it was wrong to do and he promised that it would never happen again, but how can I trust him now?

That's really icky. Yeah, and like a man being mad at a girl for anything she did before they were in a relationship is actually psychotic behavior. Like, and I feel like it's a really big red flag. Yeah. So like other, like maybe problematic behavior down the line, like controlling or...

And I don't like this man. I know. And so like, and who snoops two days in a row, like chill. Now you need to evaluate other stuff about him. Cause as we always say, like if this is the one wrong thing he did in a perfect person, everyone has a bad moment. It makes mistakes. But like, this is just pointing to controlling behavior. Someone who's like very not trusting. And maybe he has a history of someone who was like, she,

cheating on him and so now he looks through her phone because he's like paranoid but that's his problems and he can't be in a healthy relationship if he's going to be acting that way and he's not healthy so you really need to i also feel like he was like testing you a little bit like you had this seemingly like innocuous conversation about like you know old relationships i don't know enough that they're about to move in together right but it's like how does the fact that the first

- iPad. The first conversation you had was about like, you know, you didn't do anything wrong, right? Like I feel like he was like testing you and the fact that like he sort of got away with snooping. He then the next day like took it to, he feels like he's kind of like advancing in his fucking craziness. And I don't know, I don't know if I want to stick around to see what happens next. - Yeah, it does not bode well.

Yeah. And like, if you guys are moving in together, say you've been dating, like he's looking back at texts from pictures from like over a year, over two years. What? Yeah. Agreed. That's a crazy person. It,

It's crazy behavior. What led him to do that? Like craziness in his own mind. And I also feel like how you react to the snooping will set the tone for any future snooping. So I would have like a strong reaction to this. I would like stop the lease, rip it up. Agreed. And also like live with someone who doesn't trust me and violates my privacy. This is a person who like you're intimate with and like obviously has seen you naked. Like it's still such an invasion of privacy to like go through someone's nudes. Even if it's like someone you have sex with every day. Rip up the lease. Agreed.

This third and final toaster actually made me chuckle. Okay. Finally. Hey, girls. Help. I just broke up with a boy I was dating for three months.

As I'm breaking up with him, he bursts into tears saying I'm ruining his life. And I come to find out he has delayed his graduation to stay in town with me. He has a freaking engagement ring and put down a down payment on a wedding venue that his whole family gets married at. Like, he's obviously crazy, but I just feel really bad. And his family is now blowing up my phone. What do I do? You run. Lock. You run so fast. You get on your running sneakers and you start running. Like, what?

The engagement, who gets engaged, married three months. You didn't even like him. So he thought all of that was happening with him. Engagement worthy. When the energy you were giving him was impending breakup. Yeah.

Don't feel bad. Feel glad. Feel glad that you just had a hunch and broke up with this guy and it turned out he's a crazy person. Bullet dodge. Like sometimes when you break up with somebody after a long time and like their mom calls you, like that's actually, it's weird. It's not inappropriate. And then depending on the relationship, but seriously, like family members of a guy who you dated for three months calling you, not only is he crazy, he actually comes from a crazy family. He comes from crazy stock. Yeah.

You need to actually like thank your lucky stars. Cause like that could have been your family. Yeah. Like you walked away from the relationship, start running. Oh my God. Chuckle. See, I told you the girls are okay. Like they're okay. Yeah. I don't know. The first two like made me sad. Deer toasters at gmail.com. That's the email you can write in. I'm off to get my coccidinia healed. So maybe by the time you see me tomorrow, even though I think today's just like a consultation, I might be a different person. You never know. I might get rid of this fucking pillow. Wow. I got rid of mine. I just didn't bring it back after the break.

And even though the pillow was never really helping me, it's just like something squishy to sit on. Always nice. - Always nice. - It wasn't curing anything. - Thank you guys so much for listening to the Trust the Monday Morning Show. We deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please don't forget to subscribe, give us a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast network. Podcasts can be found on Spotify, Twitter, and Spotify. All the places you can find us on Spotify, Twitter, and Spotify. We have a beautiful setting in Wicked Lake Town, don't we? - Love ya, bye. Hit him with the heart, Triti. One more try, one more try. Do something different. I'm doing something different. - Me too. - Oh no, this feels so wrong. - Definitely not. - Worst ever, bye.