Throwing The Rule Book Out The Window with Ben Soffer: Friday, March 7th, 2025
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It's the toast. It's Jackson Claudin, we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Fridays. Today is a very exciting day. I would say it's a little bittersweet because my girl Koj is sick.

However, on the bright side, her wonderful husband, Bwondjelish, Ben Sopper, is stepping up to the plate. Hey, Bwondj, how you doing? Hi, darling. I'm doing not so great either. Like, we're a sick household. Oh, you're one of those. You're pretty sick too. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm not feeling as sick as her. I'm certainly on the mend, day three of amoxicillin. Oh, so you gave it to her. Yeah.

I think that there's only, considering I'm like one of the only people she's seen in the last seven months, like I don't know how else she could have gotten it. But I didn't think that sinus infections were contagious, Jackie. I was unaware of this. But perhaps they are. She keeps us abreast of her schedule here at the Toast. And like she did go out to dinner this week, right? She went out to dinner. She also had a couple of friends over. Perhaps it was the friends.

It's possible that somebody brought this virus into the home and it attacked me as well. Interesting. Jacuzzi. I really don't know. And before people jump down my back for not wearing shoes, I want everybody to know that I was instructed not to wear shoes by my wife. She would not wear your shoes on the new rugs.

She said, it's a new rug. I don't want your shoes staining it, so please remove them. I said, but people are going to comment that my dogs are out to play, and I don't want that kind of slander. So I'm just setting the record straight before we start. While I am more comfortable like this, this was not my doing.

Well, lucky for me, at this angle, I can't see your feet. Okay, so I just want to make sure then. Cool. What I do see is you are wearing socks, so it's not a raw dog. Not a raw dog. No. And it is a bit of a dirty sock. Is it? Well, see, this is the thing. The rug is dirty then. Then the rug is dirty. These are clean socks. I just put them on. I see your whole footprint. Oh, man. Yeah, I see it too. They're going to love that. All right.

What can we do? Well, that's a special treat for you guys today. We don't always give you something so exciting, but you do have Ben's foot. You do. I feel like you always have Ben's foot. This is what I'm saying. No, there are only so many certainties in life. Death, taxes, and Ben showing us his foot. And Ben's foot. Yeah. Yeah, Ben's foot. But, um...

Yeah, how are you? How are you? I'm good. What's going on? I'm excited for the weekend. You know, I've got a fun, relaxing weekend planned. Nothing too much. I'm just like looking forward to some time off. But Claudia being off today just really shook up the week. But I'm very much embracing the Buon Gelicius definition on the show. I tailored the stories to you as much as I could while also talking about what's relevant. Yeah.

And I'm excited to co-host with you because we haven't done a Bwung and Spwung spectacular. No, no, in some time. And you haven't been in the new studio. What are your thoughts? In some time. I saw this studio be built from rubble. So I knew what it looked like. I haven't sat in this slightly warm chair, but it is slightly warm. It is gorgeous.

That is certainly true. The lighting is pristine. It looks like at least a million dollars was spent in here. The show must be doing well.

And, yeah, you know, it's a gorgeous, gorgeous swirly vibe. And I'm excited to be in the swirly vibe. It's a GSV. It's a gorgeous swirly vibe. And what are your thoughts on the frames? I've been told by my publicist that I can't talk about the frames. Oh, no comment? Yeah, like if you can like lift the publicist, like I think like they're like fine. You can speak about the frames if you have something positive to say. I love them.

That's what my publicist told me to say. I love the frames. Do you not like them? I don't know. I think they're fine. Interesting. Have you seen any of this?

Yes, that she's my publicist and she's hoping not to talk about the frames. No frames. Yeah, but like I mentioned this like when you guys were building the studio that I was just like fine on frames, but like I didn't need them. That's all. Nothing negative or positive. I'm neutral on frames. Truthfully, neutral. But this chair, this is the most comfortable chair I've ever sat in, Jackie. This chair is parchy. This is you could if you have like a fight.

With Zach, you could sleep in this chair. No, it's so true. If I want to co-host with someone in my house, we could both sit on the chair. Jackie, I could literally crisscross. I'm enormous and I can crisscross and sit in this chair. Are you kidding me? This is the king's chair. It lends itself to relaxation and comfortability, which are great when you're trying to podcast and be yourself. Yes, yes. It allows you to lounge.

It's very Pesach adjacent. Yeah, lean. We lean. We lean. How's your podcast going? Crushing. Great. Amongst the slander. Yay. No, it's really great. I love it. Josh and I have a lot of fun. If you don't listen to good guys, like, what the hell are you doing? What are you nuts? You should.

We actually are recording with such an unbelievably cool guest later today. We're done with the guest episodes for the most part because sometimes they're good. We prefer just to do solos and the people prefer solos. So we try and keep guests to a minimum these days. We used to do four guests a month. Now it's max two guests a month. But we have an unbelievable guest that we're recording with later that

I don't think I can tell everybody, but like I'll tell you. Will you text me it?

Sorry, guys. Yeah, yeah. Is your phone, like, not... Yeah, yeah. I'll text it to you. My phone's, like, over here. Okay. It better be good. Will I care or is it more... No, you're going to care and everyone's going to care. Okay. Also, I don't really know if we can hear you because your mic is separate, but... You're going to care and everyone's going to care. I just texted it to you. Okay, I see that you texted me. Take a peek, Jax. Take a peek. Oh, wow. Take a peek. Yeah. Newsworthy. Yeah, yeah. It's a huge... It's probably...

Uh, we've had some big guests. Like we've had Hillary Duff, who was like amazing. We've had Miranda Cosgrove, who was amazing. Uh, John Stamos. We've gotten like really cool guests. I would say that this is, in my opinion, the best guests we've gotten. Yeah. Let me ask you who has been, or have been, it could be multiple people, like your favorite guests. Well,

Well, you and Claude, every time you come on, and I mean this honestly, I love it, but also your numbers, yours and Claude's numbers, pull as hard as a literal John Stamos or a Taylor Lautner, just so you know. I think that the best episode we've ever done, numbers-wise, was Hilary Duff. Yeah, but what was your personal favorite person to talk to? My personal favorite to talk to was a comedian named Miss Pat.

She's on BET. She's literally like the queen of my life. I'm obsessed with her. Obsessed. She would be such a good guest co-host for The Toast. You would have so much fun with her. Oh, my gosh. Penn State.

Coders maternity leave. She's hysterical. Okay, I've got to pencil it in. You know, I have a notebook now, so if you need me to write anything down, just let me know. Got it, got it. So yeah, the comedian Miss Pat, she's amazing. Loved having her on. And we just had, do you know who the Queen of Melrose is?

No. Okay, so the Queen of Melrose is a queen on Melrose. No, I'm sorry. You're not speaking English. Okay, she's a queen in the definition of gay queen.

Like a drag queen? I don't know if you'd call her a drag queen, but she's a queen. Okay. And she's like a fashion designer on Melrose Place, has multiple stores, like designs for the stars, but also is from like an Italian family in Queens, mob adjacent, smokes two packs of Marlboros a day, like loved having her on. She was unbelievable. Oh, okay. Great. Oh my gosh. Maybe I need to get caught up.

up on my GGs. Yeah, those are fun. And also a lot of some other news out of good guys, which is very sweet, is that you and Josh are both expecting fathers. How has that changed the tone and tenor of the show? Even though he already has two kids. It's just nice because like I can contribute to the conversation in a meaningful way now, you know? But yeah, we are having kids. We just spoke about this within six weeks of each other. Wow.

Like underrated. I didn't realize that it was that. I didn't realize that it was that close. So, Simpatico, are you guys, what's the paternity leave policy at Good Guys? Because we pre-batch for the most part, like we don't have to. I don't think we're going to take any time. Like we're just going to record. The hardest working men in podcasting. We're just going to record a little extra early and, you know, let her rip. Let her rip. We'll be giving birth and we'll be talking about something that happened two months earlier. Yeah.

Claudia gave birth. We're talking about the Oscars. That is really funny. No, we try not to be too topical because it's annoying. And like I and honestly, like I prefer in like toast wise. I love talking topics because it's daily. But like for us, we love talking about like anything and everything. It doesn't have to be topical. Just conversation. Just conversation.

Yeah. Okay, well, I look forward to you bringing that conversationalism to our show today. We've got a great show for you because we've got Fast Five Stories, a little bit Southern Charm recap. You know I would never miss an episode, and Queenie and Weenie of the Week, and you will be submitting your Queenie and Weenie. Yes, I have a Queenie and I have a Weenie. I'm very excited to hear who yours are. I kind of have to- Do you mind if I quickly cough? No.

Cool. Cool. Now you may start. Now you may begin. Thank you for that. It's not a real Brunch episode. No. Until we can hear. No, it's crazy. This cough, it moved from my sinuses down into my chest. I think I now have like full-blown bronchitis. Have you ever had bronchitis, Jackie? No. It's bronchial. It's tough. Okay. What do you do about it? It's tough out here. Amoxicillin. Honey. Lemon. Here's actually...

This is something that I'm struggling with, Jackie. Maybe you can help me. As a holistic man, I love Eastern medicine. As a holistic man who's currently in a cycle of amoxicillin.

For the first time in a year. I had no choice. I was sick for like six weeks. I had no choice. I didn't want it. I actually wonder about this. Like what does the holistic community say? Like if you have an infection or say you have an ear infection where you like an antibiotic, but they don't really do antibiotics. What's the protocol? Yes. So in the holistic community that I am in,

We do our absolute best to cure the problem. And if it persists for too long, like I'm not going to lose an ear just to not have Western medicine. I understand. But that's you because I feel like you are, you know, as much as we joke, you are very much a blend of Eastern and Western. I'm a moderate holistic man. You're a central medicine kind of guy. Central? But someone who's like fully Eastern, what would they do?

You know, I think that they would just rather die than take something that might save their lives. It's very possible. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't spoken to enough of the community. But in my community, Jackie, in the central medicine community, we do our best. We do our best to get to the root of the problem before it becomes too big. And unfortunately, I waited a little bit too long. I had it for about a month.

I was taking all my stuff, Jackie. Quick defense by Gaia Herbs. If the toasters aren't on it, they got to be on it. We're talking elderberry. We're talking echinacea. This stuff gets straight into the source. It makes you feel much better. 10 pills a day, four days. Normally, I have you stocked with it. I have Olivia stocked with it. I have everybody stocked with it.

I take turmeric every day. I know that's triggering for you because you're allergic to turmeric. But if you're not allergic to turmeric, it's a fantastic, fantastic pill to take. I don't know if I'm allergic. I just had a reaction. It caused a lot of...

Dermatitis was the word. It gave me like really bad itchy red skin, which I already have. So it's just worse. That's strange. That's strange. But it's a great answer. Listen, can't go by me. It's a great anti-inflammatory. Really great. So I took that and then it just like wasn't working. So yeah, amoxicillin it is. But also all of those things. You ever make an immunity juice? So I made immunity tea, Jackie. And the problem is my immunity tea, which was just lemon, honey, and water, also turned into a...

shitting tea. So while up here I was cleansed, I was also cleansing my bowels simultaneously. Sounds pargy. What's the problem? It was a win-win, I guess. I don't know. Just like the amoxicillin hit me, the juice, the tea hit me. I was being hit from all sides. And yes, I've had immunity juice. I had your immunity juice. It was too viscous. It wasn't for me. I didn't want a Bloody Mary. I want something thinner. Okay. Okay.

Okay, thinner. Sorry, I'm just saying. It wasn't really a juice. It was more like an immunity pudding.

It's like, yeah, I mean, you do strain it. It's made by Melissa's recipe, so I'm not taking offense. And the times that I have done it. You just had me throw her under the bus. Now I love it. I love it. I know you work with her. I'm like, what do you think of it? I don't even work. I like not work. Like we're just buddies. Like, okay, it was great. Like we should have strained it. Does she not strain it? She does. And I did. But you need some of that pulp.

It was too much pulp. I almost choked on a ginger root. I know you guys are Q-laborators. We are. We are. We're Q-laborators in the culinary community. And how are things going in the kitchen? You know, they're great. I honestly was thinking yesterday, like, I need to cook a little bit more. You haven't been cooking a lot. I've slowed down. It's crazy that over the summer you did—

I know. A video and cook something every single day. And now we barely hear from you. You're kind of like off the grid. I know. I know. I almost lost my family in that process. So like I had to like rebuild. I had to like rebuild to like a normal schedule. And like, yeah, I love it. I love it. I just sometimes...

Yeah, no, I got to get back. I got to get back. I got to get back to the collabs. And I just need to season of like March. It's hard to find inspiration. Like, what are we eating right now? You know, it's not like, no, it's not cozy fall, cozy winter, but it's also not like spring yet. And it's hard to know what the vibe is. So blame it on the season.

And like I also just don't always want to show what I'm making for me because it's not always interesting. Like I'm like an easy Ezekiel bread in the toaster, little turkey, mayo, mustard, avocado, mandolin, red onion kind of guy. And how many times can I show that sandwich? You know, Jax, like I can't show it that much or too much. So I understand. And how are things with Alex Guarnaschelli?

Alex Gornaschelli and I have taken a beat at the moment. No, we're, we're, no, like we're, we're, we haven't, we haven't communicated in the last month, but we're friends. She's the best. She is the best. What a queen. I have to ask you, have you watched with love Megan as a cooking content connoisseur? Yes, I did last night. I did. You watch. What'd you watch? I watched the episode with Mindy Kaling. Okay. That's the best one.

Oh, well, then this is a terrible show. You know what? We're actually talking about Mindy Kaling later in the show. So let's table the conversation for then so that we can get into everything. Now that my 20 questions are up, I think I'll let you off. Actually, I have one more question. How spritz?

Spritz is great. We have some really, really exciting news coming in April. Like, you know the news, and it's like mind-blowing that we've been able to do collectively what we're about to do. We'll drop it then, but like huge news coming, and...

It's been really great. It's been really great. And you have an event coming up. Do you want to share with everyone? Oh, yes. You are so good at helping me plug. Yes, we have a first sports on us where you can come and meet me and say Baruch Hashem because that's what literally everybody Jewish, non-Jewish. It's a running thing on Good Guys. Anytime I talk about anything, I say BH, BH, BH. And when I tell you, Jackie, these like non-Jewish

Toasters and spritzers will come up to me and say Ben BH. And that is my legacy. Okay. That and Celebrity Chef is my legacy. But we are doing a first spritz on us. You come. I buy you a spritz in St. Pete, which is Tampa. And we're going to have a great time this Thursday. St. Pete is Tampa. Thank you for clarifying that. Yes. It is Tampa. It's by the beach. It's gorgeous. It's pargy out there. Pargy out there. Like near Clearwater. It is beautiful. Near Siesta Key.

Yes. So come say hi this Thursday. I want to say it's the 14th of March. 13th? 13th is Thursday. Yeah. Okay. The 13th. Come say hi. Come say hi. It's really fun. And yeah, I guess that's really it. Okay. That's really it. But things are great.

Glad to hear it. Now I feel like without further ado-da-do-da-do, here are the fast five stories that you need to know. And...

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Post Malone has a new lady love. Okay. Is it you? It is not me. Why would it be me? I was just curious. Oh, no. I'll put the rumors to bed. It is not me. But Post Malone was apparently engaged recently. And not only has he called off his engagement to his ex, but he has a new lady that he was just spotted with.

So apparently Posty and his ex separated toward the end of last year, and he and his new boo, whose name is Christy Lee, have been seeing each other at least since the beginning of this year. In a recent TikTok video, they were all about the PDA. They couldn't have looked more smitten as her hand was wrapped tightly around his arm on the upper level of a bar while he was spotted by a fan below and gave a friendly wave. The couple was also spotted strolling in Rome in January, going out to dinner at the famed Mascogne Hotel. You ever been there?

Famed, no, Miscogony? How can it be famed with a name like that? You know I've obviously pronounced it wrong. The famed Miscogony Hotel? Not a whole lot is known about Christy, but a quick peek at her LinkedIn reveals that she's a design student based in New York City. So she's not like a famous girl. She's just a girl working hard in the city.

Well, has Claudia told you, I'm sure she has, about our relationship with Post Malone? Not in a long time. So we have a lot of new listeners. No, like seriously, not in a very long time. So can you share your relationship? Sure.

Yeah, so first of all, we have no relationship. Let me just, like, say that. But we could have had a really—we could be best friends right now. This is like—it was an incredibly fumbled ball on our collective parts, but we could have been besties. Think about—I don't know, Jackie, maybe it was 2014. White Iverson had just come on the scene. White Iverson. Iverson, boy, when I was young. Yeah.

White Iverson came on the scene, Post Malone chopping the charts. Chopping the tarts. Chopping the tarts. And we get a message from Post Malone's manager that he and she are sorrelies. And they want us to meet Post and hang out. And if we wanted to, Post Malone was doing a private concert at Tao Downtown. Yeah.

And if we wanted to come on a table with them and hang out, they'd love to have us. So Claudia and I, we're in our club in Arrow. We go downtown and we're on a table. Me, Claudia Post Malone, managers, agents. He's literally, he's next to us. He's singing. He's performing. We're hanging out.

uh goes well next day we're we're all chatting it's it's all good they then invited us to something else he was performing at like a some music festival yeah we said yes we're gonna be there we're gonna go we went we had a great time and then i don't know what happened jackie but the the fun times just abruptly stopped these fun times we stopped getting the invite we don't know what happened but all i said

It's entirely possible. I say a lot of things. I do. I do. Especially you get, you get a little alcohol in me and you never know what I could say. Maybe I offended him. I doubt it though. I'm honestly, I'm a, I'm a really nice guy. Yeah. I feel like close with Claudia would have clocked that. She'd be like, Oh, you know, she would have had a pit about something that you said, even if it didn't offend him. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like she'd been alert for that.

No, no, I don't know what it was, but yeah, so it was just a moment in time, us post Malone, and now he has a new lover and we wish them well. I don't know if we'll be invited to the wedding. I think that like that's like 50-50 due to our relationship these days. But yeah, we wish him well and I'd send him a gift if we had his address, but we don't.

Yeah, he's not engaged. He doesn't require a gift. He's just dating a new girl. Yeah, but you never know. Like things move quickly, you know, especially if she's not in Hollywood, Jackie, and somebody's talking about her.

It's true. I don't know why we talk about Post Malone all the time. He's so fabulous. He's so fantastic. He's like really the greatest right now. Like he does everything like love him. We never think about him as like an eligible bachelor. He's not even on our list of singles. Like I'm never like, oh, he should go out with so-and-so. I don't know why. That just doesn't come to mind for me.

Me too. No, I don't sit around and think about Post Malone's potential love life. I don't. I never think about, like, who he's dating. But maybe that's also because I just assume that he's someone who's just always, like, with a million girls. It's possible. But then he's also so down to earth and, like, as Taylor said, like, so respectful and has such manners. And I feel like a man like that wouldn't, you know, be – I don't want to use a derogatory term. Out on the town. I understand. You know, so –

Who is Post Malone? I would have thought, honestly, that Post Malone was still with his high school girlfriend and that they might have been quietly married. I didn't know that he wasn't married. I didn't know that he was single. I didn't know any of this. I feel like he had a long-term girlfriend. Didn't he have a high school sweetheart? I don't know what happened, but I feel like he did.

I don't know, but he has a daughter with... Oh, okay. There you go. With his ex that was born in 2022. So that's why I thought that. I think he did have a... Yeah, so maybe they were together for a while. I think they were together for a while and...

Yeah, he seems lovely. Incredibly eligible bachelor. He does. Incredibly eligible. I want to put him now on the list of eligibles, but like he does have a girlfriend. But I do think you don't come off the list until – I wonder how Claudia will feel about me tinkering with the lists when she's not here. But I do think she would approve of this. Who's the top five on the list right now?

I'll read the whole list to you. You want to hear men? Yes. Jason Momoa, Michael B. Jordan, Trevor Noah, Shaquille O'Neal, Shawn Mendes, Bill Hader, even though he isn't a really, he should actually come up the list. Josh Groban, Kenan Thompson, Tom Brady, Taylor Kinney, Harry Styles, Devin Booker, Jeremy Allen White, Joe Manganiello, Joe Jonas, Hugh Jackman, Elon Musk, Glenn Powell, and now Post Malone. I love the list.

Except for one name, Jackie. Am I allowed to remove somebody from the list? Okay, yeah, because you just helped me put someone on. Trevor Noah? What are you, nuts? Claudia loves talking about Trevor Noah. I'm sure she does, and how unbelievably annoying he is when he hosts an award show. No, this isn't a list of people that we like. It's just people who- You have to like somebody for them to be eligible for-

No, it's like people who always find themselves in celebrity relationships. We also have a list of women and then we like to like put these people together. Fine. If it's up to me, I remove Trevor Noah. Let me hear the women's list and I'll see if I'll remove anybody. Trevor Noah is like weirdly kind of germane to the list. He's always dating a swirly. The women, Khloe Kardashian, Aza Gonzalez. I do think she just got married. Selena Gomez, time to take her off.

off laurie harvey minka kelly kim kardashian florence pew kelsey ballerini giselle okay it's time to take her off cammy marone kendall jenner stassi baby ariana grande sofia vergara sophie turner kristin cavallari casey musgraves kim kardashian again kristin cavallari again

Okay. So this is a horrible list. 50% are taken. 50% are duplicates. This is a horrible list. When we go through the list, we're like, this is horrible. And so uninspired. Like, I don't feel. No. I don't feel like I want to set any of these people up. No. So uninspired. And like, I don't even know if. I don't know if anybody on that list. Is anybody on that list even looking for true love? Like, I don't know. Maybe.

That's still single. Like, for example, Selena Gomez. I don't know if you guys talk about them. Her and Benny Blanco. I love them. You love them? Yeah, I think that this is real love. I see it and I'm like, this is real love. This is real love. I just, I have to, like, I call it as I see it, Jackie. I call it as I see it. You think they are OTP?

I actually don't have an issue like with them choosing each other. Yes. I like, I like, I like them together a lot. I do. Yeah. Okay. That's it. That's it. Just sharing. When Claudia comes back, maybe it's time to update the list. Just anytime like a couple breaks up, it's like when we're sad, we console ourselves by being like, oh, well now there are two great people who can both go on the list. Like Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas. Yeah.

Even though, like, are they two good people for the list anymore? These, they, like, could they be more. Well, she's, like, dating her aristocrat. I didn't even know that. Pellegrino. I'm just saying, if you don't cross Ben Saffer Celebrity's page, like, if I don't see you, then you're not that popular.

You know, like it's not about it's not like an A-list thing. It's just more of a like an interesting thing, like who we would like. Like even when Kaia Gerber and Austin Butler broke up, then they head to the list. Who can we put Austin with next? Interesting. You know what I mean? I do. I do.

I do. Okay. All right. It's just a fun exercise and it allows us not to have to grieve relationships when they end. So you guys will be re-tinkering the list and then once you have it, you can send it to me and I'll give you my comment then. But yeah, the female list is not ready for publishing. No, no, no. We're not inking it. We're not inking it. Are you ready for our next story? Please. I'm not sure how familiar you are with this person, but it's pretty big news in the Bravo sphere because Teddy Mellencamp...

Do you know? I do. Okay. Yes, I do. She says that doctors have found five more tumors in her body amid her cancer battle. So, Teddy Mellencamp shared an update with fans as she has been...

Going through it the last few weeks, we hadn't really heard from her because she had found brain tumors after having had skin cancer. And she said that doctors discovered five more tumors in her body after they previously removed four from her brain last month. She said, update for my scans today. I have three more tumors in my brain and two tumors on my legs. These are all a direct result of my melanoma. So yeah, when we first reported this, we were like shocked at how someone could be

be going through so many of these things, like what are the odds? But apparently they are connected, the melanoma and the tumors, um,

So people had explained that to us and now she's also explaining it. Despite the news, she said that she's feeling positive about her outcome, adding that her doctors are hopeful that immunotherapy and radiation will effectively treat them. She said she's feeling positive that she'll win this battle, that she got this wig. She said, I like the short hair, just not the bald spots. And then I can remember the name of all of Angelina's kids. That's funny.

She has a sense of humor still. I'm sorry. That stinks. Yeah. That stinks. Very, very scary. Very scary. I don't have anything like great to say, but like it's 2025. Like, thank God we're so advanced, right? I have a feeling that like your chances of beating something like that have never been better, right? Yeah. Like if this was a different point in time –

you would be really worried. I have to think, even though I'm an Eastern man, and I'm sure there are some Eastern techniques that the Western takes over when you have cancer. And I,

God willing, she's fine. But I believe the word is metastasized is what's happening with her where you get it and it metastasizes. It spreads throughout. I know that because of Theo, not to compare Teddy and Theo. Teddy and there it's the same name. Yeah, but Theo, when he got cancer, they were like, yeah, you could remove it from his pelvis, but it's everywhere. Yeah.

It just like it just starts to spread. It sounds like she caught it. She's monitoring it. And there are like those I don't know the name of them, but like there are those like full body scans that I don't want to do because I'm way too much of like a hypochondriac. Pernuvo or something like that. Pernuvo something. I'm way too much of a hypochondriac. I don't want to know what's going on in my body like that. Yeah. But it's really like early detection. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. No, I see that. It sounds like she caught it early. Yeah. And she's hopeful and there's treatment ahead of her. And so just really praying for her, hoping for the best. How do you know Teddy Mellencamp? It's funny. I only know Teddy Mellencamp because Michael and Lauren had her on Him and Hers and sent me a picture of the three of them saying, Teddy loves Spritz Society Pink Lemonade. Can you send her some? So we sent her some like a couple months ago. That's the only reason I know Teddy.

Oh, that's so funny. But you did have a housewives era this morning when I was talking to Ben. We were planning for the show. I was like, is there anything that you want to talk about? I'm going to cater the stories to you, except for this one. And he was like, I want to talk about Desperate Housewives. So I feel like this would be a good time for you.

I'm just obsessed with Desperate Housewives. In terms of like real housewives, I'm just stuck in a different era. Yeah, you're still on Lisa Rinna. Even though I did do Aaron and Abe Licky are coming out with a new podcast. And I actually did their podcast last night. I'm one of their first episodes that comes out in April. Oh, do people know that they're starting a podcast? Is that like embargoed information? No clue. Not anymore. Yeah.

No clue. But all press is good press. Fingers crossed. Nobody told me not to say anything. So I don't know. But I'm an early guest. And so that is that's who I know from the new season. And besides that, I'm like stuck in like old OG New York and New Jersey, like places.

Bethany, Sonia, Ramona, Luann. The greats. The greats. I'm stuck in the greats. Yeah. I don't know these new people for... Actually, Jersey I know a little bit. Like Margaret Joseph's dear friend of ours, et cetera. And Joe. But yeah, Desperate Housewives. I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it. Desperate Housewives. Like, Real Housewives does not hold...

Is it hold a candle? Is that the expression? Two desperate housewives. Literally the greatest fucking show ever made. I'm watching these episodes. They're very different. Like one is drama series scripted and the other is...

Reality TV. But they both have housewives, so that's why I'm comparing them. Well, Desperate Housewives was the inspiration behind Real Housewives, just like the OC was the inspiration behind Laguna Beach, where this fictional show was so popular, and they were like, let's show the real people. That makes sense. Well, the fic...

The fictional Desperate Housewives. I'm sure every single toaster has seen Desperate Housewives. But if you haven't seen it within the last, I don't know, six years, you forgot everything. It's worth a rewatch. And it's so good. I'm obsessed. Okay. You know, Claudia's been sharing updates with us. Okay, she has. It's so good. And like, I think Brie, it's just Brie. It's Brie all day. Brie all day. I'm Brie. You're Brie.

We're both like, we're both, we're both like different sides of the coin of Brie. Yeah. Like, like, but Brie, yeah, together we are Brie. That's funny. Do you have a little bit of anyone else in you? Like, I think I'm a Brie Lynette. Interesting. Okay. I think that I am a Brie. No, the rest of it is a Brie Mrs. McCluskey.

I think you're a Brie Carlos. By the way, I'll take it. Even though he's nuts. Mrs. McCluskey. I love Mrs. McCluskey. And rest in peace, Ida Roth. I don't know why they killed the only Jew. This old woman, they killed her. Like, they didn't have to kill her.

Yeah, it's not much of a spoiler. She's like such a minor character anyways. But like, yeah, Mrs. McCluskey. She's great. Love that woman so much. Yeah. Just like a tough broad. She would have been in the League of Their Own. You ever see that movie?

Like probably once. Yeah. Like she was a professional softball player, Mrs. McCluskey. So like tough broad. Yeah. They don't make them like that anymore. No. Honestly, they don't. Like we don't use the word broad enough. Tough broad. Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm.

Okay. What else? Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Because Mindy Kaling is reacting to all of the fanfare around her appearance on Meghan Markle's Netflix show. So I'm sure you've seen the clips of Mindy on With Love, Meghan and that moment where Meghan in the Sussex of it all. You've seen that.

I didn't see any clips. I saw the episode, though. Oh, you haven't seen... I feel like I've been inundated with this one moment and so many think pieces about when Mindy was called her Meghan Markle, and she's like, you suck six now, don't you know? Yeah, that was weird. We'll talk about it. It's weird that Meghan said that. It's just unnecessary. Yeah, when we first talked about it, I was like, well, yeah, Sussex is their little family name. I've since learned that, no, Sussex is not their last name. That's inaccurate. It's not like...

Yeah, it's not like Kate is like Kate Wales. It's just like when the kids go to school in the royal family, they give them that as a last name just to like make them normal. But that it's just really for school. Like it's not their family name. Their last name is Mountbatten-Windsor. That is Harry's last name. I think that's what's on her kid's birth certificates. Unless like what's the last name? Mountbatten-Windsor. Mountbatten-Windsor. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Even if like my, my problem wasn't with Sussex. My problem would have also been with Mountbatten Windsor. It's just like such an unnecessary thing to correct Mindy Kaling in that setting. Like if somebody in, if you're, if you're doing a cooking reel with Mindy Kaling and she calls you Jackie Ashrae, are you saying, no, it's Jackie Weiner? Like, no, that doesn't cross your mind for six seconds. Especially when like her.

her name. Unless you have, unless you have such a chip on your shoulder, which is what that showed me. Yeah, no, but her name is Meghan Markle to all of us. Like colloquially, she is Meghan Markle on the show. Then I started to notice the credits. It says like starring Meghan comma Duchess of Sussex, which sounds nice, but like, what's your last name? A thousand percent. And also it's like one, what do you go by? Like say, you know, for paperwork and stuff. And also what's your legal last name? Did you change your last name when you got married? But,

Before this, I didn't care the answer because like royals and last names are weird.

But now it's a conversation. There's so much discourse around it. I am very curious. Like, what does your driver's license say? Yeah, what's your last name? I would love to know that too. I'm definitely curious. But yeah, what were your thoughts on the show in general? Oh, I shared them on this show so I don't want to bore people. I was very excited for this show because this is the kind of content that I crave right now. Like, I do really like cooking shows and just like how to enhance your life and things that will inspire me to cook clean, right?

Not craft. I'm not a crafter. But, you know, better myself. And it just, like, really lacked purpose. Like, each episode was so unstructured. It's not that I need structure, but I do need a point. And, like, she starts with the bath salts. Then we're putting snacks in a bag. Then we're making candles. And, like, all of these things, it's, like...

I want more information from her on like why she's passionate about these things. Like even the cooking, she talks about how she didn't cook much growing up and now she like loves to cook. But I just like would love to know how she learned to cook. Like why,

when did she learn to cook? Just like more personal anecdotes. And then also the point of the show, if like, if you're not an expert chef, like what are we doing? Are we trying new recipes together? Are you teaching us something? It's just, it's kind of a mess. I feel like they took on too much and they just thought that like her doing pretty things in her kitchen would be enough. And as I watch more episodes, like it's, it's like, it's way,

The first few were like light and sweet, but now in the subsequent one, she's doing the same things and just like putting like flower sprinkles on everything. It's like ridiculous at this point. And it's,

It's not really strong at the moment. What did you think? So we like to consume the same type of content. Like I could literally, I could sit and watch. Unfortunately, I've watched all of them, so I can't again. But like I could watch Barefoot Contessa for 40 straight hours, to your point, because I'm learning something from somebody who I know is incredibly knowledgeable. And if I go to make that,

It's going to be great. Yeah. My issue with Megan's show, and I only watched the Mindy Kaling episode, so I didn't even know about the crafts and this. I just know about the cooking. And my problem with it is if you're not an expert chef, which like, again –

Me, I'm not. But my angle, or at least the angle that I try to portray, is that I try and make it funny. Like you have to make it entertaining. No, but also there are shows, like we said, Selena and Chef, where she was learning how to cook with expert chefs. And so we're all learning together. That works for me. A thousand percent. I'm saying that if you're not an expert chef, you need something else.

Like, it's not – I'm not watching her and thinking I'm going to make that frittata that you just dumped everything bagel seasoning on. Like, that's weird as hell. I like that frittata. It's just like I just don't get it. Like, I didn't understand it. And, like, it felt very dry. It felt very, like, trying to be –

Like Martha Stewart, but Martha is so incredibly credible. Yeah. Like you can't be Martha Stewart without the credibility of Martha Stewart. You can be Meghan Markle in your own way to your point of, you know, I now have this new title, Duchess of Sussex, and –

You know, I needed to learn how to cook. So I sort of self-taught myself and here are my favorite recipes that I want to share with you. And you need to learn or that or that or that. I have two kids and I'm cooking all the time is for her, which is something that I seriously relate to. That's exactly my same experience. And I find none of it really relatable, which it should be.

Yeah, agreed. And she's also trying to be like the whole aesthetic. Like it's not like it's she's making things that she's in the kitchen is like trying to inspire us to do things and making trying to make things relatable. So the fact that it's not as a mess.

If she was like, there are things about Martha Stewart that are not relatable. I just want to watch like an incredible person do an incredible thing. Yeah. Who is so unbelievably aspirational. I don't aspire for one minute. Sorry to be Meghan Markle or to be in that kitchen and replace her.

I want Martha. I want everything that Martha has. Like, I watch an episode of anything Martha does. I'm like, I want her Hamptons house. I want her garden. I want her brain around her ability to just cultivate a vibe. Like, that's one thing, at least for me, that I know is missing. I definitely know my way around the kitchen. I do wish that I knew how to throw everything together. Like, how to just, like...

meticulously plan the perfect dinner would be something that I would love to know how to do. Like Claudia always sets the table. Claudia is so good at that. She knows how to like bring things together, but like Martha does, uh,

A to Z with purpose and perfection. And like, I love watching that because I love to learn that stuff. Yeah. Megan's also seems to be very passionate about gardening, which like I would, I would, I want to learn how to garden. Like no one will teach me. Can she teach me? I feel like that's something that she knows how to do. There's not a lot. She's just like picking from her garden, but like,

What about seeds? There are so many people better suited to teach you about how to make a garden. This is the problem. Yeah, but like she's the one who got a TV show, so get to work, you know? Yeah, but so she should have her gardener on to explain to us how to make a garden. Yeah. Well, she had her beekeeper on. Got it. But I don't want bees. That's pretty cool.

Yeah. So she has bees and she makes her own honey? She makes her own honey and now she sells it too. I also think the product, she launched the product webpage. It'll be available in a few months. Like,

I think she should have waited. I think she should have waited because it looks silly. She should have done the show, like built up demand, like, oh, everybody wants flower sprinkles, honey. And my preserves, here you go. As opposed to just like assuming that everyone would, cause it looks just so self-promotional. And of course at the end of the day, it is because this is a business and you want to sell things, but there's ways of making it look more organic. I think. I did not realize that she was launching products. She's selling these motherfucking flower sprinkles that in the first episode, I was like, what's a flower sprinkle?

It's like flower petals, like really small flower petals that you sprinkle on top of the food. They're edible. They only provide like prettiness, nothing else. Like a sprinkle. But like you wouldn't put sprinkles on like every – she made avocado toast with a fried egg and put on top flower sprinkles. Yeah. Not necessary. But like nobody needs to see how you make avocado toast. Right.

Well, she was like, no, it was, it was like she was starting off the show, but she was hungry, hadn't had breakfast. So she made her and her producer like just a little whipped of a little something, which is actually the kind of stuff I like to see because that's like real life. Just like whipping up an avocado toast with an egg. And sure. You know? Yeah. I just don't need that on TV.

Okay. Personally, I don't need it. I need to watch Ina Garten show me that if you take puff pastry and roll it into a hot dog, that's what I need, Jackie. Do you ever watch Joanna Gaines' show? I have a little bit, but not enough. It is what Megan's show wants to be, and I think between that and apparently the Pamela Anderson cooking show, that's the template. Joanna Gaines' is so good.

Have you ever watched Masterclass? No. Do you know what that is? Not the app. Yeah. So I've only seen it on the plane. Like whenever I'm on a plane. But it's like an app. But they have like. They have it on the plane? I guess they must show episodes as like an ad to download Masterclass. Yeah. So it's on the plane. And so like I will watch. Masterclass is a sponsor here. Yes. We love Masterclass. I will watch 10 episodes of an Italian chef on.

On how to make like 10 dishes. But like it's so unbelievably interesting. Because they are making things from scratch that you've never heard of. Never thought of. That like you should watch those. They're so good. Have you ever made your own tomato sauce? I have made my own tomato sauce. I've always made it accidentally a little bit too sugary. Oh interesting. Because like I like sweet sauce. I gotta send you this recipe. My life has changed Ben. I can't eat Rayos anymore. Can you imagine? What's in it?

Onions caramelized like for 20 minutes of like slow stir. Okay. Crushed tomatoes from the jar. Basil oregano dried. A little bit butter. Delish. Delish.

Yeah, love. Love. Oh my gosh. Sam and Ben made it for me when they came over. They've ruined me. And then I saw another recipe for tomato sauce on Reels last night. I want to try it. I've actually made, if you want to go back and look at it, the first Reel I ever made with Miss Alex Garnaschelli was fresh pasta and fresh tomato sauce. Fresh pasta, I think, is what's next for me. It's not hard at all. You do need the pasta maker. The

The thing for the KitchenAid? Yeah, for the KitchenAid, the attachments so that you can make it nice and thin. Uh,

But it really, it's not hard. One thing just to be aware of, it cooks like that. Yeah. Like it's not, it's literally, it's a minute. Yeah. Like a minute and it's cooked. Dried pasta takes eight to 10 minutes. Fresh pasta cooks immediately. One day. So don't overdo it. I think I'm going to make a challah today. Yum. Yeah. Love it. I find making challah really hard. I don't bake. Like rolling out the strands. They're never the right size. I don't.

I don't bake. If I start making unhealthy things, like I'm already like on Monjaro and can't lose weight. Like if I start baking, I'm done. I once read somewhere that literally ruined me. I read this like a few months ago that was like, you can eat whatever you want if you make it yourself. Which I think is actually like a good premise. Like if you make like cookies from scratch, like you can eat them, you know, because –

It's healthier, one, and I don't know, two, and like the time, all the calories you burn making them. I was going to say. Or like pasta and all those things. But I do think like she didn't have us in mind when the person said that.

No, she also didn't have weight loss or weight maintenance in mind. Like, yes, you can eat whatever you want as long as you make it and be a healthy person. Are you going to be a skinny person doing that? No, but I think you will be healthy because you're eating like healthy ingredients in home. For sure. You're going to be a fat, healthy person. If you're a person who eats a lot, like you're not going to lose weight that way.

A hundred percent. This is my current problem. I'm eating so much good stuff. Yeah. Same. But I'm eating, but I'm eating, but I'm just overeating. I'm just overeating. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. I eat because I'm unhappy. I'm unhappy because I eat. This is me. This is me. That's the best quote ever. It's me. That's that bastard. I am that quote. The source.

Yeah, I didn't eat any corn. So good. Anyways, to go back to the story, and I actually don't want to go back to talking about Megan, but what Mindy Kaling did say about the fact that this clip has gone so viral, she said, you know, I had a great time. I've noticed that whenever I do something, anything related to Megan, it becomes...

big news. She said we were making sandwiches and then they'll push in on my face on TikTok and they'll be like look at this emotion you felt and I honestly didn't even remember it because we shot it like nine months ago. She said I loved my time with Megan. I'm also like let her promote her show. It was great and really fascinating seeing the reaction.

So she's coming to her defense a bit. I was going to say, all that I take away is that Mindy Kaling is a good friend. Yeah, she is a good friend. I also love Mindy Kaling. I love the Mindy Project. I thought it was very strange that all they spoke about was the office. Like, no, Mindy Project. Like, I think of, I know Mindy Kaling was on the office, but like, Mindy Project is in the Hall of Fame.

so good i haven't so good what you haven't seen the mindy project no and i just had this conversation with claudia so i don't want to bore people okay i'm just stunned because like it's great she said i would love it it's great and you'd love it that's all okay we won't bore people we won't bore people i'll i have a list of like things i want to watch in my notebook and i'm project mindy project it sounds good yeah mindy project is is a good one

Okay, are you ready for our next story? I am. I am. Actually, something really funny, because CW's Powerpuff Girls live-action reboot footage has leaked. So CW was set to reboot Powerpuff Girls like an adult-centric version starring Dove Cameron, Chloe Bennett, and Yana Peralt, and Donald Faison from Scrubs and Clueless.

the reboot was like canceled and now footage from the show which they did film and they put together a trailer for the trailer leaked it's hard to find um because they keep taking it down from everywhere that puts it up but ben and i got to watch it and it's seriously a train wreck um bubbles is drunk buttercup hates gender normative costumes and the other one is what was the other one

I don't remember. It was a hot mess. It was. Oh, so the other one was constantly stressed. So they canceled it. They filmed it, paid these people and then canned it. Yeah. It didn't get greenlit.

Wow. That's how bad it was. And you can see from the trailer, like it's like AI's version of, you know, what they think they should be making these days that just turned out so bad. And, you know, I loved of Cameron Descendants for Life and I really enjoy watching stuff that she's in. This really would have been the same.

It's funny. I definitely would have watched it because like I'm a big CW guy. I don't know if you know this, but like I had a real. I mean, Afterdale, of course. We were all there. Yeah, exactly. Riverdale. And then after Riverdale, I went in. Claudia didn't even watch this. I watched on my own. The reboot of Sabrina. Oh, yeah.

With, I forget her name. What's that? Yes. I love that shit. It wasn't like a good show, but I loved it. Like, I love that. I love that stuff. So, like, I feel like I would have given this show a chance. I'm just happy that I didn't have the chance to give it a chance because you get enough from the trailer that this would have been so bad. Yeah.

So bad. So bad. Like would have ruined Powerpuff Girls for everyone. And like Powerpuff Girls are for kids. And so to make an adult version of like a kid's thing is always just weird to me and has to really be done perfectly. It has to be funny. Like the only way to do that is humor. Like bad Santa, right? Like if you're going to take Santa Claus and make him like an angry drunk, it better be funny. Yeah.

Humor is the only way that you get an exception to ruining something. If you're ruining it seriously and like making Powerpuff Girls have anxiety and alcoholism, it's just nuts. No, it's nuts. Seriously, one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. I'm shocked that the people who approved the idea were also smart enough to be like, you know what? This can't see the light of day.

Yes. Yeah. I'm sure that the person who approved it didn't also can it. I'm sure those are two different people. And the person who approved it probably no longer works for the company.

Yeah. Because it looks like they spent a lot of money, Jackie, between talent. Like it wasn't poorly filmed. But then like it was weird. I mean, it's only a trailer, but it was just like this one house. And they keep like filming the outside of the house. It still felt like they spent millions. Try and find the trailer. It's taken down on YouTube. We were able to find it on X, but like every post I was sending Ben, it was like still coming down. But just search Powerpuff Girls trailer and like try and watch it because it's really painful. I'm sure that you can find it on TikTok because nothing's removed from TikTok. Oh, yeah. Look on TikTok and just know that we were saved.

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Hi. Hi. Hiya. What movie is that from? I have no idea. Heavyweights. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't have the script. It's how they greet Jerry Stiller and his wife in the camp. Hi. Hi. Hiya. That's really funny. And it's not seared into my memory. Is Josh in Heavyweights?

No, it's one of the big misses of his career. The problem is he was a little, he was too young. He was also, we actually recently spoke about this on Good Guys. Like you guys are fucking missing out if you're not listening to Good Guys. We spoke about how like Mighty Ducks is also just such an unbelievable franchise. And he also just missed Mighty Ducks because he's just a little too young. But like the way that he was born was,

For heavyweights and for Mighty Ducks. Like, he would have been so good in those movies. Let me ask you something. As a friend and fan of Josh, like, what project of his, like, are you most obsessed with? Is, like, most a core part of your job? Like, he's going to absolutely hate my answer. He's going to hate it.

Drake and Josh. Also, this is in the middle of an ad break. A lot of people won't hear it. Okay. Well, yeah, he's probably skipping it. No, not high though. Okay. Yeah. Drake and Josh was my favorite show of all time. Oh, why is that a bad answer? It's just because it's not like newly acclaimed work. Got it. Got it. It's not Oppenheimer. It's not Oppenheimer.

He was so great in Oppenheimer. Drake and Josh was my favorite show ever. Like I just, I watched with my whole family. My favorite Josh role is something like I only put together recently that it was him in my favorite part of this movie. You know, the wedding ringer.

Yes. I love that movie. Do you know that he's in it? He plays like the groom who gives that really bad speech, who like rips up his speech when they go to see a sample wedding. And he gets so like panicked he starts quoting Hitler. I have to watch that again. That's our boy Josh. Okay. Wow. No, he's so versatile. He's so good. He does it all. He does it all. He's so good.

He's so good.

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Sheena Shea was the bat. I'm so happy for Sheena that she made it onto like a really big competition reality show like this because we all know she really wanted to be on Dancing with the Stars. And she also does sing. So her being on The Masked Singer is really pargy for her. She was revealed to be the latest celebrity on Wednesday's episode of Fox's hit music competition series, The Masked Singer. She was unmasked as the bat.

during the show's Voices of Olympus unmasking of the gods themed night. I do not understand the show or what they do or what the fuck I'm saying. For Bat though, no one got it right. Everyone, so the judges got to guess. Robin Thicke said Bethany Frankel. Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg went with Larsa Pippen. Rita Ora thought Heidi Montag. Then went with Bethany as well. Ken Jeong thought it was Lisa Rinna. Turned out it was Sheener, Marie Shea, and then she's saying Espresso for the crowd.

Wow. Tough song. Why didn't she sing it? Wait, why didn't she sing an original? Why didn't she sing what? One of her originals. No, because this song, the show is like people doing covers like celebrities with pretty decent voices. Like they mask who they are. People have to try and guess who it is. And then you get eliminated like based on performance. And I'm also just gleaning based on everything I've seen. And then you reveal yourself.

You know my manifestation abilities are like through the roof, right? Like you're aware of this. Like if I like want something, like I'm going to get it. No, I didn't know that. What, you want to be a Masked Singer? No, I want Claudia to be on Masked Singer. Oh yeah, we've said this. She would be really great. Yeah, but like she like probably didn't manifest it. Like it's going to happen. Like I don't know why she wouldn't. Her voice is so unbelievably good. Yeah, she'd be great. And she would be so good. Yeah. Okay, we're going to do it. We're going to do it.

Well, those are the fast five stories for you. Now it is time for our Southern Charm recap. The crew, last episode in the Bahamas last night is just a mess. Shep and Sienna, I don't know if you know what's going on with Shep and Sienna, but basically he's been dating this girl or he thought he was dating this girl in the Bahamas for the last few weeks. They took a cast trip down there, at least they went to a Parchee destination. They went to the Rosewood, I believe, in the Bahamas so that she could be with them and, you know,

meet everyone and blah, blah, blah. And she literally won't give him the time of day and it's like breaking up with him. And it's really, really...

weird to watch him just not get a clue. And the fact that she stayed at the dinner after she had broken up with him when like nobody really wanted her there because she'd ruined their trip because Shep was like so upset by everything and they're all there for her. They could have gone anywhere else. And they're just like, okay, if you guys aren't even together, like why are you at the dinner table? And because she was at the dinner table, they were kind of grilling her with questions, which also wasn't fair because it's like, listen, you guys are all friends. This girl's like coming onto this show and she's,

It's just like not right. It just was uncomfortable for everyone. And thankfully she left and that was the right thing for everyone involved. But Craig and Austin made up, which was very exciting as,

Craig and Austin fans, they finally had a breakthrough in this fight that they have kept having where like Austin just thinks that Craig, you know, doesn't want to hang out with him and is kind of blowing him off and that he just wants to like be home in his garden. And Craig finally understood like what Austin was trying to say and where he was coming from. And so he opened up that he'd actually been struggling with addiction and like not doing the things that he used to do with Austin. Like he needed to not do those things in order to stay on the straight and narrow. And,

Austin had said like he felt like Craig doesn't go out because he wants to protect this like image that he's portrayed you know this like very clean image and that he's trying to convince other people of this image and Craig was like no I that image is what I aspire to be like that image helps me stay in line I'm trying to convince myself to be that person I felt like that was a really good distinction and help them like see each other and like

Craig was able to see what Austin had been thinking of him and Austin was able to understand what Craig's actually been doing and how it's not coming from a place of like, I'm better than you and I'm just going to stay home and I'm boring now, but like really trying to better himself. And I'm so glad that they had that breakthrough because I think that things will be going up from here. But I think for Craig, this was obviously a big moment. And I think since he broke up with Paige, people have been alluding to the fact that like Paige helped him through a really tough time and she'd always been there for him. And like, I think forgave some stuff and,

And then coupled with this episode, you do like seem to understand. And it was sad because he talked about how like Paige was so there for him. And like he's never been so connected with another person like through everything that they've been through. And like how grateful he is that she like saw him. And even when he wasn't at his best, like she saw that there was a person there. And like it just was like, oh, sucks that they're not together. Yeah. Yeah.

Craig's your boy. That was a wonderful recap. Honestly, all of those guys are friends. Craig and I obviously are very close, and he's the best. But having spent a lot of time with Austin, he's also really great. And having spent a lot of time with Shep, he's also really great. And you've spent time with them, like, would you say—

When's the most time you spent with them? Like since, because this was filmed in June. So like before June or after? Both, both. So whenever I go to South Carolina. Do you feel a difference in their friendship before this breakthrough conversation versus after? Do they seem closer now? I think that based on what you're telling me, it seems like they're closer now. Yeah, yeah.

But I never noticed them not being close. That didn't affect guy time? No, we would play golf together and have a good time. Yeah, no, it didn't. They're all great. And all that I'll say on the Craig...

addiction stuff just because I want to talk about it is he came on good guys like 14 months ago and basically spoke about this and so the fact that this is like now new news that people are talking about I know that it's in the storyline but like

We've known for a while that I like hard alcohol is something that doesn't agree with Craig, which is actually why he loves Spritz Society, because it's a low alcohol wine based product. Like you'll see he drinks beer. He drinks wine like these like lower these lower ABV products. He drinks the higher stuff. He just it just doesn't agree with him. Yeah, I think that like Austin had said, I feel like.

maybe he had talked about it before, but I think the depth of how much it affected him was something that not a lot of people knew. And he talked about addiction before, even in his books, he talked about his previous Adderall addiction, which we saw play out on the show. Yeah. But I think just like being really honest about that, maybe he had it, maybe he was more honest on good guys. Maybe Austin missed that episode. Yeah. All I know, you don't listen to good guys. I know, which like, I don't know what you people are doing, but,

But it's like weird watching. Like I don't watch Southern Charm because when I do, it's just weird. I can't explain it. It's weird because he's your friend. It's just weird because I know all of the guys. Like really know them. And like to like see – not that the drama is by any means fake. It's just like I just like I can't relate to it. Like I don't know. Like I –

They're just all really nice guys, at least in my experience. Having interviewed them, I totally agree. And having had them on the show. Also, Craig also has B's. Have you met his B's?

No, I have not met Craig's bees, but like Craig, like back to Megan Markle, like Craig really like in terms of like gardening, in terms of beekeeping, in terms of like I would rather learn from Craig how to do all of those Martha Stewart-esque things than Megan. Especially because like he's a recent student. And so I find that so relatable when someone's like,

you know, they didn't, they don't have this in their blood. They weren't doing this since they could talk. Like they learned recently and then they're sharing that now. I feel like that's more how I would relate to someone. It's like, oh, you learn this year ago and you're an expert now. Like Pargie, I feel inspired.

Yeah, I'm going to talk about it because it's never going to actually happen. But like I wanted to pitch a show with Craig called Straight Guys Throwing Dinner Parties where Craig does everything as it relates to the tablescape and I do everything in the kitchen. And I don't know more than that what it is, but it's like a straight guy's version of Queer Eye. And I thought it could have been really fun. I love that.

I thought it could have been really fun. And I just think that he, with showing down south and just everything that he's accomplished, seeing like a behind the scenes look at Craig, he works so unbelievably hard, has such a great team, and like really is just like a great businessman entrepreneur and is like a trusted source in the home making sector. Yeah. Like I would watch it.

Even if I wasn't on it. Even if they were like, okay, Ben, we like your idea, but we don't have a need for you. Yeah, probably. I know. I know. Yeah, I'd still watch it. I'd still watch it. I do think they have a need for you. I'd be a little sour.

yeah what you're gonna get cast in instead of me i don't think so no probably not like you never know probably not probably okay well that's the southern charm recap oh my god except next week like seriously looks crazy because they're back in charleston and do you know who jt is i i met jt at a at a party i don't know i don't know they're like literally how are you spending all this time in charleston

Because we have all this Spritz stuff to do. I know, but it's like that you go into parties with JT. No, no, no, no, no. The party was in New York at Carriage House for the season 10 opening of... Or a premier party for Southern Charm that Spritz Society sponsored. That's when I met JT. It was a quick drive-by. Okay. Also, I need to mention something that I saw this week that I wanted to mention when we talked about Southern Charm, which is Vanita. So she...

shared that basically she had a conversation with JT before they went to the Bahamas where she was like, I'm ready to tell him how I feel about him. I'm making him Branzino. I know he feels the same way. Like I'm ready to like take this thing to the next level. They're really good friends, but they've been flirting all season. So she lays it on thick and, you know, unabashedly is like, I like you. Like I'm ready to go. Let's go. And JT, who's literally been flirting with her and leading her on this entire time, says that he has a girlfriend.

damn okay she's like crestfallen and upset about this then they go to Bahamas and the whole time in the Bahamas she's kind of like throwing herself at him flirting with him going up to his room when he's sad apparently she like mounted him and he had to like push her off of him and we're like what are you doing not only is that wrong because he has a girlfriend it's just like embarrassing and

what are you doing? She posted on her Instagram that the conversation with the Branzino happened after the Bahamas. The editors did her dirty looking like she knew that he already had a girlfriend and she's still trying to get with him. So I feel like everybody needs to know that, that even though, I mean, I don't know why she's like so obsessed with JT. That's a whole other story. And he's sending her these like paragraphs and it's just all weird. Um, that conversation happened after the Bahamas. So when she went up to his room, she had no idea he had a girlfriend and justice for me that because that's wrong.

Next week, Leva is having coffee with JT and she says, you go to the same barber as Ryan and the barber told Ryan that you said...

cut and something crazy. I don't know what he said, but it's via the barber. And I just have to say shout out to Ryan because I was watching last night's episode and I was like, who is Ryan in this world? And why is he on the show? And why is he on this trip? I thought he was Rodrigo's husband, but then everyone said that he's not, I have no idea who he is, but now I'm feeling really grateful to Ryan. And I look forward to hearing what the barber said that JC said. Yes. Yes. You give a great recap.

Thank you, Bunchelish. Really good. Concise. Not too concise. Pretty long-winded. Well, there's just a lot to say. And also the craggy of it all. Yeah, let me clarify. You give a great long-winded recap. Okay, thank you. Now it's time for our Queenie and Weenie of the Week.

Would you like me to go first? Do you want to go first? Yeah, Claudia usually introduces what the segment is, but I feel like most people really know. It's pretty self-explanatory. Queenie of the week, someone who behaved in a Queenie-like way. Weenie, someone who behaved in a Weenie-like way. I will hold the title for the next seven days, and it's not that serious. Who was your Queenie this week? My Queenie...

Is and will always be my wife. Oh my God. I really knew you were going to say that. No, but like watching her be pregnant, like she's doing such a good job. It's so hard. You know how hard it is, but like she's doing so good and she has so many great days. And like, even when she's not having a great day, like she's willing herself to have a better day. Like she, she really is just, just the best and doing amazing things and growing a child inside of her. And that's like really, really wild. Yeah.

So she's my queenie. And then my weenie has to be me because I got my pregnant wife sick. Like that's just like not acceptable. I thought we established that maybe you didn't. I don't know. So then maybe my weenie is her friends. It's whoever got her sick. Okay. Let me, I just like.

But like I'm sick, Jackie. How is it not her? How is it not me? That's true. It has to be. Even though like I don't think sinus infections are contagious. But like it's either me. It's whoever got my pregnant wife sick is a weenie. That's what I wrote. That's what I wrote. Okay. I think that's really good. Usually we both like do queenie and then we both do weenie. But it's fine. Oh, so sorry. We're switching up. There's no.

rules on this Fry Dairies. My Queenie of the Week are the people who have brought me the most joy this week and that's Rascal Flatts in announcing their refueled duets album. Like, let me just tell you, this has given me such...

A joie de vivre and a pep in my step. And I love Rascal Flats. And I do hope that they give us a discount on their private concert rate because we really want to have them come out for Claudia's birthday to our house in the Hamptons. Love. Yeah. But now I'm seeing it's like a kind of like a million dollars. Yeah. It's a little, it's much more or less. So we've been priced out. How much is Papa Roach? How? I don't know. Can't you do a Google? Apparently you guys did this on good guys. Yeah, we did. We did. Um,

A lot of them are what you think they'd be, and a lot of them are actually much cheaper. So you just got to find, like, who's, like, a little bit down on their luck. Like, you know, but, like, still has, like, three great songs. Yeah.

Like, I think unfortunately like Gen Z took a chokehold of Teenage Dirtbag, but like Wheatus should have been cheap. And like I should have been able to get Wheatus for like 25 grand. But because Gen Z loves that song, they're probably like 500 grand. But what songs do they have besides Teenage Dirtbag, Jackie? It's just Wheatus. You're seriously asking the wrong person. All of these questions are being asked towards the wrong person. I thought you were a rocker.

I guess I thought wrong. Yeah, I think so. My weenie of the week. It's always so tough, isn't it? I think my weenie of the week is going to be, I don't know. I was going to go Mark Zuckerberg with the Benson Boone performance. But like, I don't know. He was having fun. Doesn't that like make me a weenie for clowning on someone for having fun? A little bit. So I'll go Oscars. Yeah. The whole night. Piece of shite.

Yeah. Yeah. It was definitely bad. I'm sure you guys like did this at nauseam, but like, uh, I'll just say like one quick comment, which is, uh, you can't be, you can't capitalize off of the Holocaust and be free Palestine. Oh, well that's for me. I'm sure you're, you're more than welcome to. And I mean this wholeheartedly, like you can be free Palestine. I can't control you. You can do whatever you want. You can have your own opinions. You can have your own thoughts. I'll have mine, but you cannot capitalize off of the death of Jews and then be

Be free Palestine. One or the other. That feels right. One or the other guy. One or the other guy, Pierce. One or the other. One or the other. Pick and choose. Before we go, I also have one more story.

Or we were going, right? Yeah, yeah. That's the end of the show. So say whatever you'd like. Okay. I want to tell you one quick story because I think that you'll laugh. Did Claudia tell you the story about my dad and airline miles? No. Or no. Okay. So my dad, I get a call from my dad sometime and I know it's always going to be something random. Like, hi, can you literally order a stuffed cabbage or a gefilte fish for your mom on Uber Eats? Like those are the, those are the types of calls that I get. He calls me. He's like, your mom and I want to go to Israel. Uh,

in July. One of my cousins is in the Maccabee Games for hockey. Go him. I have like a million miles on JetBlue. I'm like, you have a million miles on JetBlue? First of all, JetBlue doesn't fly there, so that doesn't help you. But how do you have a million miles? I'm like, can you go and check? Just go check quickly. How many miles do you have? Let's see. He logs in Jackie. He has 19,000 miles. Yeah.

He's like, where can that take me? I'm like, dad, that can get you a one-way ticket to Buffalo. So this is, so that's that. Well, you know, when you round up. When you round up, you're at 20,000. And you can hear more stories like that on the Good Guys podcast. That's what we talk about. My Meshuggah parents. The good guys, not the great guys. Oh my God. The good guys.

You guys, like, you literally heard that we had a great theme song, and you made a theme song that is so good. It is so good. Like...

Start your day off swirly. It's the toast. What I want to do, I want to make like a 15 minute sitcom that like starts with that because it's obviously what it is. Like if you just put the Hannah Montana laugh track at the end of that, even though I love your line, I sound so good. But like if it went from start your day off swirly, it's the toast. And then you walk in and all of a sudden it's just like.

Somebody left the sprinkler on and all of my shit is ruined. We should do that in our spare time. And you guys should collaborate with Gabby Barrett for a version of her song, Good Ones, instead called Good Guys. You're one of the good guys.

I love you like you should, like you wrote the book. You know that song? Love it. Of course. I wonder what she cost. You guys should have her on the pod. I'm in. I'm in. We should do it. We should do it. We're just such musicians. Gabby Barrett on the good guys. I mean, we have music just flowing out of us. We're such musicians. It's so true. We can't stop the beat. Can't stop the beat. Is that it? Or is that we got the beat?

We got the beat. Got the beat. Got the beat. Yeah. Is that a commercial? Or is that a song? It's a song. Okay, cool. But it's probably also been used. The Go-Go's? Yeah, maybe. That sounds right. I love it. That sounds right. Okay, maybe we should end the show before the cards run out. So.

Thank you so much for listening to The Toes, the greatest show on the planet, eons ahead of the good guys. That's what I hear. Love you so much. And we will see you on Mondays. I hope everyone has a great weekend. Make sure to follow Ben at Boy With No Job. Follow Spritz at Spritz. And we will see you on the next one. Love ya. Bye. Love ya. No, now we do it on our own because. Got it, got it, got it, got it. Love, love ya. Bye.

Why won't we let this episode end? I don't know. One more? Okay, good. Okay, good?