I've Got Beef Between My Teeth: Thursday, November 14th, 2024
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Good morning, Millennials! Welcome back to The Toast and happy Thursday, a really relaxing sort of day, although it should be Friday, so I'm feeling like the theme of today's episode is injustice. Isn't that the theme of every episode, LaTertre? So true, when you have a chip on your shoulder like we do, every day is like Injustice Day.

It's true, but it is Thursday, which is exciting. Ladder Half vibes. It is. Merch is out. We actually slayed this collection because we made enough merch to wear every day of the week. Because tomorrow I can still wear my oversized toasty tee. Today I'm wearing my girly swirly university set. Yeah, I graduated from GSU. Whoa, I mean, talk about getting an education. Yeah.

Talk about a mind. Oh, wait. You know what I did yesterday? I didn't even talk to you. We didn't FaceTime yesterday. Once again, Ben coming between us. He was home last night. I could sense it. Well, he's not home tonight. So, like, just wait. Oh, but I'm not home. Actually, I'm home. I'm home. I have a big... I'm doing something big today. What? I'll tell you guys all about it tomorrow. You already know. I'll...

- What is Jackie doing today? - Think about what the PR company, I told you that they reached out. - Oh, Jackie has a big day. Yeah, okay. You guys, it's literally not even that crazy. It's like, okay, whatever. - Not at all, not at all. - Well, what I did yesterday was kind of like make a dream come true, and that dream was my own, added to the list of dreams we accomplished in the month of November. I went on the Glee podcast officially.

You did say you were going to do a podcast yesterday and you couldn't text for an hour and I didn't even ask which podcast it was. Yeah, it was the official Glee one and that's what you really missed on Glee. How was it? Was it everything you dreamed of? What episode did you recap? It wasn't a recap. It was just like interviewing, you know, famous Gleeks.

And so we just talked like a lot about. Famous Gleeks throughout history. Exactly. About like my POV, like my experience watching Glee. And then obviously I was peppering them with questions. They were peppering me with questions hosted by Tina and Artie. A lot of pepper. Yeah. Also known as Jenna and Kevin, but to me they're Tina and Artie. And I don't know when it's coming out. I think actually soon. It was really good. I'm excited for the, for my fellow Gleeks to hear it. That's really exciting. I'm glad they still allowed you on. Yeah. Despite. Despite. Yeah. Well, I actually, I brought up Ben. And so one of the hosts,

One of the hosts, Jenna, is a toaster. And so I had a feeling she might have heard what Ben had said about Artie. And I definitely was going in feeling uncomfortable. So I brought it up first because Ben was going on and on about Artie on our Halloween episode. And I'm like, Ben, you can't just say stuff like that. So I brought it up first just to sort of get it out of the way. And nobody seemed offended. They were cool. Huge sigh of relief.

- Major. - Oh. - I finished my book last night. You guys don't read it. - Oh. - Something happened. Frida, it's not like, I think Frida was,

like I think someone wrote under her name. Like it was not Frida. It was a mess. I think that Frida is like actually under too much pressure. Like she had too much success too soon. And you know, she's like an official writer of Amazon. Like she's like a kid. She has a big Kindle unlimited contract. And I think she owes them like X amounts of manuscripts per quarter. And I think she's buckling under the pressure of Amazon. Like I think Jeff Bezos' boot is on her neck. And I think we're seeing that reflected in the work. I think Frida could like write these books in her sleep.

And someone took over Frida's name. Like maybe, maybe she even outsourced like, okay, they want all these books from me. Like, you know how to write in the Frida style. And like, maybe for some people it passed as Frida. It was not a Frida Rita. It was not a Frida Rita. And the Frida Rita that I read that was not a Rita either was called The Coworker. Okay. So just putting it out there. What was yours called? This one was called The Boyfriend. The Boyfriend. Put it on the list of like Frida books that are not Rita-ing in the way that they should.

Oh, I didn't bring my pad and paper up here. What do you mean? You like literally just get like my pad and paper. Just get a pad and paper and leave it up there. I have pads downstairs and papers. I finished Outer Banks. Wow. I did. Our conversation yesterday got me talking about it. And Ben has been like hocking me a Chynic. Like, want to finish Outer Banks? But no, actually. He's so Outer Banks. He's obsessed with Outer Banks. Like he loves it. And like the experience I'm having where it's, Jackie, like when I thought it couldn't get any more unrealistic, they take a boat from South Carolina to Morocco. Like, yeah.

Like, it's so stupid. I actually can't participate. But what kind of boat? Oh, they steal this like fishing boat. Oh, and they get caught. Oh, yeah. They get caught in like a crazy storm. They're in the middle of the ocean in Africa. There's a storm a mile ahead and they drive straight into the storm. Two people fall off the boat. And it's like it's waves like you would only see in movies. And the whole thing was AI generated. And like they made it out alive. Like boat is intact. Like.

It's too unbelievable for me, but Ben is obsessed with it. And what was in Morocco? The Blue Crown, of course. Oh, God, no. No. Yeah, it's really so silly. Ben is obsessed with it. So, like, I was happy to not finish it. Like, I read a spoiler. I'm like, you know what? It's good enough for me. But Ben was hacking me all night. Like, want to finish Outer Banks? And it's either that or Harry Potter. He wants to watch the next one. Like, I need a serious break from Harry Potter. So I gave him Outer Banks.

Okay, that is so fair. That is so funny. Jackie, and I actually like the last episode was so long. I fell asleep like with 20 minutes left. So Ben was telling me what happened this morning in the last 20 minutes and his description of

was so crazy. But I know that that's what happened. I'm like, there's no way all of this happened in 20 minutes. Wait, but in the last season that I watched, didn't it end with them finding like some sort of treasure? They like give some to like a museum. They're esteemed in the community. Yeah. So do they have money now? Oh, well, they did. Yes, they did.

- And what happened to their money? - They decided to, it was actually, I actually really liked where it was going at first. They were like, listen, we have, and it's not money for life. Between the six of them, I think it was like a million dollars or something. And they decided to like invest in land. Like the house that John B owns and then the house JJ grew up in was up for sale at foreclosed, like it was being foreclosed on. So they wanted to buy it and start a business where like people can buy bait from them. They have like a little garden, like, and they were all gonna live on like a commune, very much like a kibbutz, like honestly.

And when they went to go buy the land that JJ's dad, who's like a fugitive on the run, foreclosed on, someone was also trying to bid it. So it was a property that was worth about like $50,000, $60,000. They spent $750,000 on it. So like they were being stupid from the get-go. And then they had like this little bit of money reserved for property taxes. And of course, JJ steals it and uses it on some bullshit. Like he bet on a race or something like that.

So they had tried to be like smart with the money, but they ended up being dumber than anybody could have been. And it was actually, and I'm somebody, I'm like a big priority of mine is like financial. Like it's like one of my priorities in life is like financial stability and financial literacy. And to see, and I'm not reckless with my money. I'm really not. Some people like to watch like six idiots be so reckless.

No, and it's frustrating that like all season, all of the seasons, like John Jay had this house that they always could go to. And then the second he comes into money, like, oh, we need to pay for the house. Yeah. No. And by the way, it's next door to John. So they built this like they called it Poglandia. Like, actually, the more I talk about the show, the more embarrassed I am to have watched it. Like, so they build this compound with like between JJ's house and.

They build like a clubhouse. And all of a sudden they're next door neighbors. Yeah. That was a new development that I just sort of went with. Like, and for like 20 minutes in episode two, like they had a thriving business and the people in the community loved it on their dock. They had this bait shop so people could drive up in their boats, buy snacks, bait, merch. Like it was a good idea. And people in the community loved it. And then of course, like their property taxes get raised and they don't have enough money. So they have to go to court. Like,

And like what happened a year ago when they had no money and property taxes got raised? They didn't own this big piece of property yet. Who was paying the rent? I don't know who was paying for John B's house. All of a sudden the financials are a question? No, all of a sudden they're tax paying individuals because yeah, they were all like squatting at John B's property that his dad bought. So he bought it. But like, what about the mortgage, the taxes, the insurance? Like, I don't know. And where's John B's dad now?

I know that he was alive. Yeah. Sorry, spoiler. Yeah, then spoiler, he died. Okay, when? Did I see him die? Did you see them find the city of gold? Yes. Oh, okay. I remember. I remember now. Yeah, he like sort of sacrificed his own life for Pakistan.

And Ward gone. Ward gone, yeah. Because he tried to like steal in the 11th hour. Yeah, exactly. Now I remember. I totally forgot about all that. Thank you for it. Now I'm oriented in the show. I know where I am. So it's just, the theme of the show is like genuine silliness. And like you really need to suspend so much disbelief. And like we were talking about, we were talking about acting. I'm a person who is like so firmly planted in reality. Like I had a really hard time.

And then like, and then like the moral compass of the show sort of like gets off kilter where they're all like actual criminals now. Like they stole someone's boat. What's that guy's story? Yeah, no. And they're not just like, they're not, they used to be, they would break the law like for the sake of something. And now they're just doing it like for fun. And I actually can't.

Understood. Well, I might still watch. We shall see. Just like prepare yourself for the silliness. Oh, I will. Yeah. I will. It's Riverdale. It's seriously Riverdale by the sea. It's Riverdale by... I love that. Riverdale by the sea. So, yeah. Anything else new with you, Latour, since we don't talk anymore? Now that we don't talk, what's new with me? You know, I tried a pop-up bagel yesterday.

I've had one before. And it's very rare that like these hype things, like there's a lot of food, foodie stuff, whether it's restaurants or companies that get like so much hype on social media. And I never end up trying them because like most of the time it's not anything that would entice me. But Ben got a delivery yesterday. They had like a collab and I had one of the bagels. Who were they collabing? Ben's like favorite. What is that? Pickled Agayo? Pickled Agayo.

Yeah. You know that stuff Ben loves? They made like a cream cheese with them. So Ben got it and tried it. And there was like 15, of course, Ben got like 20 bagels. Yeah. And oh my God, they're literally amazing. Like, I know you're gonna say like, how can a bagel be like, what's different? It's a bagel. No, it's not. It was so fucking good. The presentation is really good and really fun. They popped up down here like a few months ago and Zach like came home with the whole

And it was really, it was a good fun thing. And I actually realized I had a pop-up bagel this weekend. Okay. Because the restaurant I was dining at serves pop-up bagels. Like they're good. Like I feel like I'm always clowning on like things everybody likes. And this is something that everybody likes for good reason. Like it's really good. But it's also, it is hard to do like a bad bagel.

Actually, I don't agree. You could have a bad bagel if you're not trying. Some places have stinky bagels. But it's a delicious thing. It's not a controversial item. I have a hot take. Who has bad bagels? And they actually need to do better as a brand. Starbucks. Starbucks.

Do not get a bagel at Starbucks. I mean, I have like many times and it's never good. That's crazy. And you live in New York City. Oh, no, no. I shouldn't even. At like an airport. I never like go instead of like a bagel store. No, no. But I've gotten. Like Starbucks, New York location shouldn't even have bagels on the menu. Or they should like source local bagels. Something. Yeah. It's disgraceful. They're so bad. They're like worse. They're like what you get in a Delta Sky Lounge. Like.

And honestly, the same for Dunkin. And these are like breakfast places. These are chains of breakfast. And so they should be putting a little bit more of their star bussy into their bagel selection. They should do a collab with perhaps pop up or one of those bagels. They should put their star bussy into a lot of their items, like most of them. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe start with their coffee. Except what I'm criticizing Starbucks, which I often do just know I'm not talking about their sourdough grilled cheese.

That's a good item. And I think it's really important to have people in your life who are constantly teaching you new things, like friends that you can learn from. And for me, like one of the greatest things Brian Kelly ever did for me was like, actually, I was in this studio. We were driving to the Hamptons. He picked me up after the toast. He's like, oh, I got you Starbucks. I got picked up a grilled cheese. And I'm like, wait, they have grilled cheese at Starbucks. I had never heard.

When I tell you it was the most delicious thing, and I get them all the time because Ben goes to Starbucks every morning, and sometimes I'm like, yeah, I'm being fat. I'm like, grab me one of those grilled cheeses. Throw it in. It's huge. It's oily. It's cheesy. Like, you know it's 10,000 calories. It is absolutely divine. Not enough people know about it. It's kind of like a secret menu item.

Oh, secret project. Check it out next time you go. I know you don't go to Starbucks, but the next time you do, check it out. I don't. My husband goes all the time. I like their egg bites. I'll say that. They're a little needlessly oily, but they're good. Are your kids obsessed with cake pops yet? Like I know that's like a part of like modern children's

I mean, if I gave them one, they'd be obsessed, but they don't know what that is. Yeah. You'll be making them at home in no time. Oh, how cute. Yeah. Oh, I have to say something and I don't mean to embarrass my husband, but the absolute craziest thing happened last night.

What? So at like four-ish, we were deciding on dinner and we're like, you know, let's like have like a good dinner. Like let's really treat ourselves. So we went to the kosher grocer and he got like two huge ribeyes. Oh, for cooking. For cooking. He cooked up this feast. I'm like sitting on the couch and he's making me dinner and it's just like a great night, you know? And the house smells good. The smoke alarm's going off. Like it's good.

And we sit down and whenever we make steak, Ben puts the steak on cutting boards and cuts it up. And then we just like eat straight off the cutting board. So like looking at all the different pieces, I'm like, you know, I'm very particular. Grab a piece. And like, he was like, how is it? And Ben makes really good steak. So like, I wasn't even concerned. And it was like, literally, it was horrible. And I was like, how? I was like, it just tastes like a little bland. And then he was like, he was like, oh my God. I forgot to like...

the steak, like marinate it or whatever before. Like I just put it on the grill. But can't you do that? No, I'm sorry. Like Worcestershire, salt, pepper, oregano, like whatever. Salt, pepper. Salt, pepper. No, no. I ate a plain steak. He just forgot to cook it? Yeah. And I was like, are you okay? And then he started. Did he like it? Well, at first, before he realized his mistake, he took a bite. He's like, I think it's good. I'm like, no, you don't. Then he was like, wait. And he tried to put Worcestershire on it like after. Oh.

Oh yeah. But like Worcestershire is something that needs to be cooked. Like it was like a hundred percent. It might as well have raw egg. Yeah, exactly. And I was so like quiet mad. I was like, not me. You made me wait like two hours and this is what I ate. Like actually. That's insane. Did he have it with like steak sauce? Cause you could really dress anything up. Of course, you know, he made like a blend of, he, Ben can make anything work.

Of course he made a blend. And I went to bed hungry and I just thought like he walks around celebrity chef, celebrity chef, you literally forgot to marinate your steak. Like he needs to be shamed for that. Season it. Crazy now. A little seasoning. And then he blamed me. Wait, he blamed me.

How? He was like, well, I really didn't want to make a dish. So I was like planning on seasoning it like whilst still in the packaging. And like, obviously I forgot. But because like whenever I tell him to cook, I'm like, just try and like be prudent with the amount of dishes. Like I always say, like, don't make a ton of dishes. So he literally used that against me.

I see. It's a really good strategy on his part. It is. But I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it either. Like, look at me. Do I look frail and weak? I didn't have dinner last night. No, that's so crazy because I had the opposite experience because I actually had so much beef last night. I don't know if you saw my story, but I made hamburger meatballs. I mean, you do look jacked. Like, seriously. I did see your story. I made hamburger meatballs, which, are they just meatballs? Like, no. They're not meatballs. They're more hamburgers than they are meatballs. Yeah, because it's like...

it's all about the seasoning. Like I didn't use Italian seasoning. I just seasoned them the way I would season a hamburger. But like a girl can't make a hamburger. It just can't be done. Like I don't use my grill. I'm not making it on the stove, but I can make a meatball. So I made them into little balls and they were so tasty. Hamburger meatballs. But it's also all about the vibes too. Because yes, technically the ingredients aren't that dissimilar from an Italian meatball. But it's the vibe. With a little ketchup, a little cheese, a little pickle, tomato, onion. Like girls can't make...

hamburgers I'm in complete agreement unless like at the kosher grocer they actually sell pre-packaged patties like unless the patties are made and they put like garlic and onion they make them for you for sure let me ask you how would you cook that oh Ben taught me it's four minutes on each side like it's actually incredibly easy you said I tried to make a hamburger on the stove once and I didn't love the results the caraway cast iron that's what I use

I like to put meat in the oven. Ben and I always talk about this. He likes to cook meat on the stove. He doesn't like to use the oven when he cooks. I like to dress up my food and put it in the oven so I know when it comes out, it's ready. I don't have to keep checking it. Thermometer. My problem is like, why is it that you can make a patty no matter how like long and flat you make it? Like it ends up in a round ball. Like why does it always shrivel up? Like how do you even make a smash burger? Like I've never, every time I've made a hamburger, it like shrivels up like to a testicle. What is that?

I don't know. But that's why I just went straight for the meatball shape. And it was really good. We are all doing what we have to do to survive. And I get that. And like you got dinner on the table for you and your family. And anyone who has anything to say about that will talk to me first. And we had plenty of beef. We had beef between our teeth. I've got beef between my teeth. It would be love.

without my floss. The way that episode of Sweet Life, Zach and Cody had such an impact on me individually and like only me and my group of like friends from high school are obsessed with it. Like I feel as though it's not like a cultural thing that everybody like talks about and references.

I don't even know what it was about. And I just know it was the kid from Ugly Betty, Betty's sister's son. Justin Suarez. Justin Suarez. I was going to say Justin Guarini. Justin Suarez. He has Justin Guarini energy in that episode of Suite Life of Zack and Cody where he leaves it all on the stage. Yeah. So like that's just something that meant a lot to me. I forget where I was going. He left no crumbs. He ate and left no crumbs. Exactly. So try out hamburger meatballs.

If you are looking for a family-friendly dish and you've got ground beef and you don't know what to do with it. I just know that Ben's not home for dinner tonight, so I will be eating like...

- What are you craving, turd? - Like I'm just gonna be eating, like eat what I find. You know, we have those pop-up bagels. That's probably what I'll have. - You'll be scavenging. - It'll be rough for me, like tonight. - Okay, well I'll FaceTime you because at least we'll have that. Like with Ben, you'll go hungry. - Yeah. - Without Ben, you'll go hungry, but you will be like emotionally fulfilled. Not that you wouldn't be with Ben, but sisterly fulfilled. - Yeah, it's kind of like a different sort of fulfillment.

It is a different fulfillment center. For sure. So Thursdays are great because they're very relaxed, right? Like Wednesday we had so much to do between the merch launch and Deer Toasters. I definitely felt like a little bit on edge throughout the entire experience. Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, no, it's okay. And I got through it. And I think everybody really enjoyed. So that's great. Today, Thursdays, I find so relaxing. It's like the day before Friday. We have nothing to do. Friday we have Queenie and Weenie. We always like to like wrap things up. Today we can just like talk, you know? Yeah.

Yeah, we actually have some really funny random stories. Funny? Yeah, I'm excited to get into some of them. And I guess like without further ado, we could do that. I wasn't bringing up the run of show like for the purpose. Sometimes I do bring up the run of show for the purpose of like, you know, moving into the second half. But if you have anything else you want to chat about, I'm open to chatting. No, I feel as though we've dillied and we've dallied. Okay.

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Our first story, some exciting news to update you on because I feel like we never have an update. But Hoda Coppies Today Show replacement has been revealed nearly two months after her exit announcement. So there's two things here, like her Today Show hour and then Jenna, which we'll get to. But first, it has been revealed that Craig Melvin will be taking over for Hoda Coppy when she exits the Today Show on January 10th.

Craig Melvin is the new anchor of the Today Show. Savannah Guthrie gushed of one of those popular decisions NBC News has ever made. Hoda said to Craig, you were made for this job. You will have all the things that this job needs. You're the right person for it.

Al Roker said that he did not have the words, but he was so happy for his colleague. As for Craig, he's excited and grateful. He said it meant a lot to inherit the role from Hoda as she is the heart of the show. He said this is the latest in a long line of blessings. He will continue doing the third hour today with Al Roker, Shanil Jones, and Dylan Dreyer. He said, I talked to mom and dad yesterday, and I'm thankful they're still young enough and healthy enough to be able to see this. That's really sweet. So that was really sweet. Meanwhile, the fourth hour, Hoda and Jenna...

We'll transition into Jenna and friends where Jenna will quote date different co-hosts until they find the right fit until they find the right fit. But I would just say, make haste. It's jeopardy.

- It's Jeopardy, I do prefer Decision, but I understand you gotta see how the shows actually go. - By the way, I saw this Craig news this morning and for me, I don't know if I'm unique in the fact, I don't care who replaces Hoda when she's doing the news. That's the job a million people could do. To sit in Kiki and talk to celebrities, that's so interesting and I think that requires such a different skill set. And so that's been my focus, that's who I'm really eager to see. So happy for Craig, he's a cutie, I really don't know much about him. He'll do a great job, I don't care.

I didn't realize that they had like made somewhat of an announcement when it comes to the Jenna thing. I thought they just announced the Craig. They slipped this in. And I hate this. This is exactly what you said. Exactly what you said when we were talking about this, like that they not do the Jeopardy thing where they try out a million people, people stop caring. And it didn't work for Jeopardy because they ended up hiring the person they meant to hire the first day they found out Alex Trebek died, but they did it because he had some old tweet about someone in a wheelchair. Like they should have just made that decision day one because it got so stupid.

Cause if they announce someone right now or say, give Craig his moment, announce someone next week, this is who's going to be with Jenna. Like there'll be so much excitement and fanfare as opposed to just like everyone sort of losing interest. And then it's like, this person is the best. Like, and also if I was that person and I feel like people come

like people come through the Today Show all the time I'm surprised Jenna doesn't have a or maybe it's not up to Jenna but I feel like she would know who she'd like to do it with if she had a preference like she could definitely push it forward um I feel like she really likes Justin Sylvester and I think the culture really likes Justin Sylvester I think it's a great great choice and I'm sure they'll have like three or four people in rotation and it'll become clear like who the favorite is based on like you know social media and ratings but I I hate this I can't lie

I would love to see who is even an option, like who these friends will be. Because of course, like Justin Sylvester comes to mind for us because we know that he co-hosts a lot and like we love him. But I wonder who are like the obvious names. In rotation. Yeah, I'm looking. Who are they saying? Who will even be on Jenna and Friends? Who are the friends? Right. And is it people that we know have already guest co-hosted? Or are these people Jenna's putting forward for the job? Like people in her life. Right.

Right. Maybe other hosts out there. Yeah. Cause it's like, Justin, who else? I know Heather co-hosts. Who else does like frequently? Not just one time. We only like know that because we follow them on Instagram. It's like in our circle. Yeah. So I'm sure if we followed other people on Instagram, let me go look. What's their show called? Hoda and Jenna. Yeah. I do like the name Jenna and friends. I just want to say. I know, but I feel like it's like a bad, like think about Kelly Ripa.

It's hard to see who's hosting and who's a guest. I think that it's a bad precedent. Like when you think about Kelly Ripa, when you don't immediately make a decision, like it's just bad. And I feel like with the Regis and Kelly show or however it started, I forget, Regis and Kathy.

every time somebody left, boom, there was a new person. And you know, we all got with it. Like it became Regis and Kathy, Regis and Kelly, Kelly and... - Ryan. - Ryan. No, no, Kelly and Michael. Like every time they switched the names of the show, like we all just kind of got on board and it became a part, it was like a part of the vernacular. We had an easy time. We're like, yeah, Kelly and Ryan, Kelly and Mark, Kelly and Michael.

And I actually think, I know she's had her issues, but that's a really good example of how to transition someone out of a role quickly and just like the public gets on board. They just do. But when you dilly dally like this, like it's silly. Make a choice. That's always what I'm saying. Make a choice. I don't like this. They could also be testing people like behind the scenes, you know, they don't have to do it all in the public. I think they knew Hoda was leaving for a little while. And I think that anytime one of them was off, they were testing people.

Yeah. I think they've been testing people for like a year. Yeah. I think they think that this will drum up excitement, but I think it's going to be the opposite. I think it will drum up exhaustion. Agreed. It's, it's jeopardy. But congratulations to Craig Melvin. Congrats. A job a million girls would kill for. It's so true. And you know what? Like you'd love to see journalist roles going to journalists. I think that's kind of rare these days. It's usually an influencer. It's so true. Maybe it'll be an influencer with Jenna. I would love that.

But probably someone a bit older. I actually feel like if I thought long and hard about it, we could come up with some good names. But it is so much about chemistry. If you even pulled from all of those talk shows that went away, like The Talk. Meredith Vieira, Bethany. No, like The Talk, The Real. The Real, yeah, yeah. There's a lot of swirlies who have good hosting, daytime background. Right. Adrienne Bailon, Lonnie Love. We had all those girls. Garcelle. Amanda Kloots. Yay, The Chew. The Chew.

So go over there. Daphne Oz. Daphne Oz. I like her. She's dazzling. She is dazzling. She's a nice life. I like following her on social media. Yeah. So are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Which is sort of the hot gossip of the day. Oh. Teddy Melville.

Teddy Mellencamp allegedly cheated on her husband, Edwin, with her married horse trainer and a heated confrontation ensued. So we went from knowing absolutely nothing about this divorce to now I feel knowing too much. Agreed. And not in the way, like, I don't know why I just assumed like Edwin was the villain, not Teddy. Right. So what?

Teddy Mellencamp cheated on her husband with a married friend. An insider with direct knowledge of the situation told Page Six that she allegedly stepped out on him several times with her long-time pal, whose then-wife was also a close friend. So this guy has been identified. His name is Simon Schroeder. He's her horse trainer, and his wife's name is Carly Postol. That just will be germane as we go forward. So the two of them have two children, and a

And apparently when Teddy and Simon were in Florida together for an equestrian event, while his wife was in California in labor with their second child, his wife thought it was suspicious that her husband was in Florida when she was giving birth.

When he returned to LA, the insider says that she allegedly discovered inappropriate text messages between him and Teddy, which led to a heated public confrontation. Apparently they confessed. Teddy promised it would not happen again. And the wife didn't tell Edwin when she found out because she was willing to give Simon another chance. Oh, wow. However, Daily Mail source said that the wife learned last month that the alleged sexual relationship not only continued, but also became emotional. So she told Edwin. Then,

Teddy filed for divorce so that Edwin did not have the chance to file and get her for adultery. It has been alleged that the marriage ended between because Edwin cheated on Teddy, but it's actually the other way around. This Daily Mail source says. Justice for Edwin. Not us all dragging his name through the mud like with literally no proof. But the timeline is so confusing to me because she filed for divorce on November 1st and listed the date of separation as October 20th, even though they were packing on the PDA at a charity event four days later. Isn't that like lying to the government? Yeah.

I have no idea. Like falsifying documentation. I'm literally like that scene in Elle Woods. Unless it's like true. Like maybe they were like,

Maybe they had like one great last night together. Yeah, I mean, I guess anything's possible. Plausible deniability. They were just putting it off for the cameras. Yeah, or they were like, let's just give them a show. The craziest part of this whole saga is the wife finding out and not telling Edwin. Like, I guess at a situation like that, like it's every man for himself. Like I'm trying to protect my family, my marriage. She owes nobody anything. Like, bitch, I'm just trying to get through this. But I never thought about like when, like if a spouse finds out, like do you tell the other spouse?

I guess it all depends on the relationships. But I guess she didn't want to make the whole thing bigger than it was if she was going to give him another chance. And she just sort of wanted to go away. So if then, what if Edwin found out, left Teddy, and Teddy becomes single and now she's hanging around your mans? Right, right. You're trying to make it work and you have a baby. And I so didn't see this for Teddy. I think like the Teddy that we got to know on the show, like she was very much like a pushover. Like she wasn't making strong decisions. But I also feel like she was very like much, she was absolutely,

Acted as a moral character. Yeah. Yeah. So this is really surprising, but it's also like so Beverly Hills, like not the horse trainer. Yeah. And like, is it saucy's brother? It's giving the politician, uh,

It's also, I think, made Teddy Mellencamp, at least to me, far more interesting. I don't know if interesting is a word I would have used to describe her up until this point. And so to see that, not that there's anything like admirable about having an affair, but it takes a set of balls. And I never saw that for her. Like she didn't seem like a freewheeling kind of gal. Yeah.

I guess, but also I know all she wanted was like privacy and not to speak on it. And I think when we thought it was something else, that could be the case. But now that this is all out there, like she's. Privacy revoked. No, no, she's going to talk about it. If she doesn't talk about it. It's an admission of guilt. And it's just hard because she has a podcast. Like she talked, if this were a housewife who just like, you know, does the show. Well, the other women will bring it up, but like post on Instagram. Like we're not even on the show anymore. Right. No, but like when you have a podcast and we're always hearing from you.

No, not only that, and the concept of their show, they're like always digging in on other people. So it's like you can't dish in and not take it. Yeah, no, if she were on the show, it would come up. But I'm just saying like the podcasting, I feel like that's what we were saying about Brianna Chicken Fry. It's like when you don't, when something is so out in the public about your personal life, that's something like,

I don't know. I just feel like it's really hard to navigate if you don't address it at all. It is. And I think that's also like an important distinction whenever we're talking about like the difference between influencers and celebrities. Like celebrities really are afforded the luxury of that privacy. Like they don't have to speak. Like you're not doing it. You're not on press unless you're like in the middle of a press junket. But if you're not working, like you can literally take six months of silence and like people will forget about it. But influencers, like your job is to constantly be making content staying relevant, being on like the scene. And so it makes it virtually impossible to like deal with things privately. Yeah.

Yeah. But there's just as much intrigue in you as there is in celebrities. I would argue there's sometimes even more intrigue in like influencer drama or an influencer divorce than like a celebrity divorce because there's like this weird parasocial relationship between like followers. And so you feel even more. Yeah. So you're getting even like more...

and sort of, there's like a higher level of interest than like even a traditional celebrity. And like, you can't get away from it. And for Teddy, there's a higher level of interest than if she was just a former housewife, like Camille Grammer cheated on her new husband. Like that just wouldn't. Nobody would care. Right. Yeah. No, it's really crazy. It's really crazy. So we'll keep you posted. But that was the plot twist of the century. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaking of rumored affairs, are you ready for this next one? Our favorite story of the year. What? Hugh Jackman's ex-wife, Deborah Lee Furness, is subtly reacting to his alleged affair with Sutton Foster. Okay, Debs, lay it on me. Because you know I ride for Debs, but honestly, in this situation, she's taking it back. See it. Yeah, no, but she's spilling tea in her own way. So...

Hugh Jackman may not have been a free agent when he allegedly started his romance with Sutton Foster. He was married to Debra Lee Furness for 27 years. The two announced they were divorcing. Rumors have swirled over the past few months that he possibly stepped out of his marriage. And now the Australian actress, that's Debra Lee Furness, has seemingly reacted to the news of his relationship. So Deb liked a post from her private Instagram account of a gossip blogger, Tasha Lustig, claiming that Jackman had blindsided Deb by sharing his relationship with her.

Deb's friend, British media personality, Amanda DeCandidat, also weighed in on the allegations, writing in a comment last month, you were on point with this one. My beloved friend, Deb, is about to have her glow up any moment, FYI. That's kind of like... I completely agree. That was like a beyond unnecessary comment for this conversation.

girly to make I just feel like they're trying to like get in there but they're also just like grown women yeah yeah I don't think she realized what she meant by that I think this is this might be their first rodeo like I think she meant like she's about to have a moment you know not like not like she's ugly a makeover um okay she's about to start glowing so this I feel might be a situation where we need to trust our faves

Who's our fate in this situation? I don't know. I don't know. Like, I really don't know. I fear that I can see this being the reality, right? They worked on a project very closely together. They were both married. And now a year later, they're both divorced and in a relationship. So obviously...

It's entirely possible that they fell in love, never did anything wrong, went home, divorced their partners and came together only at a time where it was acceptable to do so. However, the injured party could call that an affair because they fell in love. That's not an affair. If you develop feelings for someone and you're in a relationship and you go home and end that relationship, like that's the right thing to do. You can't stop yourself from having feelings, but you can stop yourself from acting on those feelings. Yeah.

Yes, but then think about really the timeline. Say you're like at first it's just you feel this way about someone, but you're not going to leave your wife. You don't know if they feel that way about you. You kind of like need that confirmation and then you're getting into emotional affair territory. It's really hard to do this in a clean way. Okay, but I think there is a world. The question is, does she like you back? Okay, that's a really good point, but I do feel like there is a world in which like you can find out that the other person likes you and you both go home and get divorced. Like, and that's not an affair. But don't you kind of have to like

see that through a little bit just to confirm if it's more than what you have at home? Yeah, I mean, it's very reckless to not, but I just, I think it's possible. 27 years? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean, I'm trying to. I know, like, I think they probably went about it in the best, most respectful way possible, and it can even hold space for maybe that it wasn't even, didn't even get physical until all was said and done, but the injured party can still say that's an affair.

Yeah. Yeah. So it gets murky. And also I think that, you know, you can maintain that nothing happened between this person, but your wife is not going to believe you. You're leaving me over this person. You obviously fucked her. Like, so there's his story, her story and the truth, right? There's history and there's her story. Well, you just said a mouthful there, sister. What am I choosing to believe? I'm choosing to believe that everybody's truth is their own.

agree and I'm choosing to believe that of course this wasn't the ideal situation I believe that Sutton and Hugh went about it in the best way that they could have while also betraying the people that they loved I

Yeah. And I think that we have to hold space for like every generation. There's sort of like a once in a love. Once in a lifetime. Once in a lifetime kind of love. And sometimes you have to hurt people for that. And I fear that Hugh and Sutton might just be that once in a lifetime kind of love. They just like got in the way. And it's unfortunate. Yeah.

But think about it like, okay, the notebook, right? Allie and Noah once in a lifetime kind of love. She was out here cheating on James Marsden. Yeah. And he was a great guy too. Yeah. He wasn't perfect, but he loved her and he wanted to marry her. And like, even if he wasn't like infidelity, she cheated on him, but we all ship because we know what was at stake. And that was Allie and Noah. And like they were OTP. Think of Sutton and Hugh.

I challenge you to think of Sutton and Hugh as more of an Allie and a Noah. And you'll see it very clearly. That's just like, and people don't like this one, Camilla and Charles. It's exactly like Camilla and Charles. Yeah, it's just because it's not Ryan Gosling.

you guys are singing a different tune. And the thing is, if he wasn't Prince Charles at the time, he would have left his wife way sooner, but he was like legally barred from doing so. He was begging his gran for a divorce. Well, he would have married her to begin with. Well, of course. He should have been with Camilla from the beginning. And what, they said no to her because she wasn't a virgin? Yeah, by the way, Jackie's delivering absolute facts right now. It's Camilla and Charles. So...

I feel like two lists are brewing here and now I'm officially starting the list of couples we don't care about separately but together we love because now we have two instances this week. Sutton and Hugh. Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster even though I did love Hugh Jackman before. And Olivia Munn and John Mulaney. Now we love them separately but we came here. Yeah. We come to this place for magic. For magic.

Yeah. And then also, if you did want to do a list of like this situation, of the Camilla Charles, like it's not pretty. Not okay, but it's understandable. Situations where infidelity was understandable. Here, I'm calling it true love trumping infidelity. Allie and Noah, because they're the blueprint.

Yes. And if you like the notebook, then you like this. It's true. Allie, Noah, Sutton and Hugh. Camilla and Charles. Camilla and Charles. Feel free to sound off in the comments. Any other situations where cheating just felt like it had to be done? I feel more organized getting this out down on paper. All week I've been like a mess trying to remember my references. Yeah. Well, if you could just get that pad and paper, pad and pen, we would be all squared away. That pad and pen. Okay. Yeah. No, that pad and pen.

Pad and pen, yeah. I keep saying pad and paper. Yeah, and then I said it. And now we both look stupid. How am I going to write when I just have two pieces of paper? That's funny. So that's the latest with Deb. Furness. Deborah Lee Furness. And as he would call her, he used to call her affectionately. My Deb. My Deb. Now he's not your Deb. My Sut. Doesn't hit the same.

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- Oh, thank you, Claudia. - You're welcome. - I'm enraptured in our fifth story, but I'm going back to our fourth story. - Fifth? - Oh, okay. - But I'm going back to our fourth. Our fourth story, you're not gonna like it. It's very chewy, but we've gotta break it down. - What? - Sydney Sweeney is calling out Hollywood's industry, calling out Hollywood industry's, quote, "Women empowering other women's stance." She said all of it is fake. - Yeah, actually I saw this. - So, Sydney Sweeney is calling out some people in Hollywood who tear another woman down privately while publicly proclaiming they are empowering women.

In a new interview with Vanity Fair, she cited the industry's attitude of, quote, women empowering other women as untrue. This is what she said, quote,

She said this entire industry, all people is saying, all people say is women empowering other women. None of it's happening. All of it is fake and a front for all the other shit that they say behind everyone's back. She noted that there are so many studies and different opinions on the reasoning behind it and said that it's a generation problem to believe only one woman can be at the top.

So it feels like she is citing a specific instance. Like something obviously happened to her and she's making like sweeping generalizations about the industry. Although I do see this, like I feel like we had that conversation when it came to Olivia Wilde, right? When that video, Shia, Shia, Shia, like her begging Shia LaBeouf to be in her film, even though like female castmates had expressed concern about working with him because he's like crazy. And she didn't give a shit. Like, but she's one of the women who walks around wearing a Herstory t-shirt. Women empowering women, the female, whatever. So...

I can definitely see, I know, I agree 100% that there are people in the industry who are like, their platforms is all about like telling women's stories and they're the nastiest bitches you've ever met in your entire fucking life. Yeah. I don't know if that's the whole industry and I think that Sydney Sweeney is like speaking from experience. Something obviously happened to her. I don't know who it is. I don't know who it is. Did anyone come to mind for you of who it could be? Yes.

And I have no proof. And I think I... It's probably the loveliest person who books so many female... I don't know why this person just came to mind because I love her. Let's say it on the count of three. Three, two, one. Reese Witherspoon. Reese Witherspoon. Yeah. Yeah. You want to know why it came to mind? Because it feels like...

Sydney Sweeney is putting together a career that's really similar to Reese Witherspoon in the sense that so much more than just acting, Reese Witherspoon has been producing, she's been like optioning, I mean, Sydney Sweeney has been producing, optioning books, like building something beyond her own acting, just like getting cast in movies. And,

Yeah, I also got a Reese Witherspoon vibe and I have no proof. I have no proof that's funny that you got the same vibe though. But also like here's a quote earlier this year that a producer said about Sidney Sweeney, which was like not nice. And so I guess this is like the vibe of what people have to say about her. She said there's an actress. The producer's name is Carol Baum. I don't know who that is. She said there's an actress who everybody loves now, Sidney Sweeney. I don't get Sidney Sweeney. I was watching on the plane Sidney Sweeney's movie Anyone But You because I wanted to watch it. I wanted to know who she is and why everybody's talking about her.

I watched this unwatchable movie. Sorry to people who love this romantic comedy where they hate each other. She said, I said to my class, she teaches at USC. Explain this girl to me. She's not pretty. She can't act. Why is she so hot? Nobody had an answer. But then the question was asked, well, if you could get your movie made because she was in it, would you do it? That's a very hard question to answer because we all want to get the movie made. And who walks away from a green light? Nobody I know. Your job is to get the movie made.

Okay, I have to say, I agree with Carol that that movie was unwatchable. But everything else she said was so beyond unnecessary, like coming for her looks. And it's like, well, if we're going to criticize all different parts of the industry, like why are you starting with Sidney Sweeney? Like you're not a woman who supports others. There are things wrong with the industry. And I'm sorry, Sidney Sweeney is not one of those things. No, and Sidney Sweeney is very pretty. Yeah, like please, what do you look like, Carol? Like let's start there. But there's a lot. I actually was some, who was it? Matt Damon? Matt Damon?

Is he the one Good Will Hunting? Yeah. - Yeah. - He was doing an interview. I don't know when it was, but he was talking about why the movies that he used to make like Good Will Hunting, why movies like that don't really get made anymore and why it's all like big budget Marvel superhero movies. - Action.

the day like your movie would come out in theaters and it would do what however it did and then later when it came out on DVD like it was like a second wave you had like two opportunities to make a lot of money but now that movies just go to the streamers they have to crush it at the box office that's where they're going to make all their money and they're only going with sure things and that is like the superhero movies the remakes the big budget things so movies that are a good idea that need some time and love and building up to a code following more intellectual

don't get made and that's why the movie and so like that to me is like something you could start chewing on yeah about the movie industry before you start saying it's cindy sweeney ruined the movie industry yeah and i think like cindy sweeney probably gets a lot of flack and like judgment immediately because of her looks right she's like this very beautiful girl she embraces her sexuality like and a huge part of like what catapulted her was like

her boobs like that was like a thing and so I'm sure she gets like initial shock and judgment from that but I think if you look at her career like even if you don't know everything about her like she's clearly proved herself she's a very talented actress she does do so many things beyond just acting she produces she I think she's like starting a production company so it is this woman who is supposed to be a professor like just sort of whittling it down to her looks like that's

insulting and I don't know if in this article she's referencing this professor feels like I don't think that she is by the way either because it feels like she's talking about someone that we do know and she's also talking about the entire industry it's a blanket statement I feel like people don't often make statements like that like they're everyone who says women all the way and she's not even saying Hollywood men and women don't support she's saying the women women don't support the women so I just have to think of like the women who say they support the women the most and then I'm like she's saying they don't and like tell women's stories

Right. Like who's always talking like that? It's a pretty, I mean, she's used the word women like a lot in the quote. So it was kind of hard to read. Yeah. It was painful to hear. But it's like a pretty big call out. It is. And this is somebody who's successful and she's in the industry. I think a lot of people like talk about the industry from the outskirts of it. We're like, yeah, okay, whatever. But Sidney Sweeney's first,

Firmly planted at the center of things. She's on one of the biggest shows. Her movie was huge. She is speaking from experience. And I could see. She gets in those rooms. I could see women who purport to support other women, support some women, but not women like Simi Sweeney. I could see how she's getting shut out for being Sid. Yeah, I agree. And.

I know like I have no reason to believe this, but it's 100% Reese Witherspoon. No, I'm sorry. She's describing Reese Witherspoon. Someone you all love. Someone who gives jobs and is, she is. Sorry. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's all, but yeah. Yeah. And someone who did accomplish everything she wants to accomplish. They even look alike. They look alike. And that's the thing. It's like, yeah, you can conveniently support women. Cause you think about the women like Reese Witherspoon is always like casting and championing Nicole Kidman, Laura Dern, women who don't really infringe on her place in Hollywood. Right. They can, they can all coexist without any sort of competition. They're all so different, even though they look exactly the same. But Sydney Sweeney is like, oh,

appears to be on her way to building something similar. Yeah. So who do you think it's about? Sound off in the comments. Our fifth and final story I'm kind of obsessed with. It's one of my favorite tropes. A celebrity...

Dating a reality star. Oh my God. I love who? It's so fucking random. So fucking random. Remember Mod Sun? He dated Avril Lavigne. I know. And Bella Thorne. Yeah. Yeah. And my girl from- He's technically a singer. From the DBF show.

He's technically like a singer with fans, allegedly. The only time I have ever heard his name is in regards to Tana Mongeau, Bella Thorne, Avril Lavigne. He dates like, yeah. Yeah. Well, he was spotted packing on the PDA with Love is Blind star Brittany Wisniewski, who is Brittany from Leo and Brittany from this most recent season of Love is Blind. Yeah.

Yeah. They got paparazzi'd outside TMZ, like holding hands, leaving a restaurant. So I think from this article says that they first connected on November 3rd at his concert. So that's like not even two weeks ago. While performing on stage, he spotted the group in the crowd. She was with some friends and gave them a special shout out, which he documented on TikTok saying respectfully, are both of you on the show? Love is blind. Oh my God. That's so funny. He said, my name is Maude. And then-

In the clip, she could be seeing blowing him a kiss before the video cut off. I guess maybe she was going as his. Oh, maybe they had already met. That's possible. Now a video taken by TMZ shows them getting handsy while dancing to Party in the USA. Now, my initial thought when I saw this was like, yikes.

It's like not a good look for Britney. Why? Because I think that like when you go on these shows, like you are constantly trying to beat the allegations that you went on for fame. Even though like, and maybe some people go on to fall in love, but everybody's going on a little bit for the fame to quit their jobs and make influencer money. And I think that that was an allegation that was thrown around a lot about her, like just being kind of...

Like having her priorities a little materialistic, like even when it came to all the questions about Leo and his money and his watch. And so for her to end up with like a D-list celebrity, like on TMZ, like I didn't think it was a good look. To be honest, I actually think this gives her some credit because in the show, like she says, I dated rock stars. Maybe like he's an ex of hers. Cause when she was saying that on the show, it's like, okay, sure. Um, but now it's like, let's get you back to bed.

Maybe she has dated rock stars. She continues to, he is a rock star technically. Like maybe it's not Harry Styles. But like she said that she could really be with someone who has a lot of money. Like she's been with that before. That's actually not what she was looking for. It doesn't help that she then went back to that sort of lifestyle. But I think it gives her some credit. If somebody said to me, Claudia, we'll give you $11 billion tax-free. All you have to do is name one Mod Sun song.

I wouldn't be able to do it. I couldn't take the money. I could not. I could guess. I couldn't even guess. Why don't you just guess? Whoa, whoa, my son, yeah. Okay, I'm going to go to his discography, but before I do, I'm going to guess. He could have even had a song called Flames of Love. Okay, that's kind of good. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

What's like a title of a song that like a lot of people have the same title? Do you know what I mean? Right, right, right. Like something with, oh, I already did love. Two different words than me. Okay, okay. To increase our chances. Get you back. Okay. Yeah, that's my. Claudia, he has a song called Flames with Avril Lavigne. And I swear I've never seen it before. I believe you. Oh my God. So do I get like five and a half? One million?

I got half of it. Oh, he has I'd Rather Overdose. Oh, this would have been a good guess. Karma. Fuck. Because I was thinking Taylor Swift songs. Me too. I was like, God of the Woods. He has a song called Sunshine. That would also have been a really good guess. These are just words we should remember. Nothing get you back. In case some... Wait, I'll go to all his... He has a song called I Told You. Karma, Bones, Flames. Oh, he does one word. Okay, that's good to know. Oh, so I'm out. Better Man. Is he obsessed with Taylor Swift? Yeah.

Prayer, 20 num. Smith, roller coaster, annoying. Porn star, internet killed the rock star. Okay, so no get you there. Honestly, I feel like we did pretty good. Like, I know we didn't make $11 billion. By the way, we're going home empty-handed. But we didn't embarrass ourselves. I just don't understand, like, how...

And this is just like, honestly, like the gender imbalance. Because if there was a successful woman who was on the same level looks wise as this person, like no way would they be pulling women like, or men of equal looks to like Tana Mongeau, Brittany, Avril Lavigne. Like, this is where. I guess, let me get. I don't like his vibe, but let me get a look at his face. Yeah, me too. I actually feel like maybe he has a handsome face like behind all that hair and drum kits. Oh my God, like mod son. Like. Uh-huh.

Okay, I just feel like the pictures of him are good pictures. No, I'm sorry. I stand by what I said. I think that if he did something else, he's making himself ugly. He's got nice features. It's so easy for men, though. It's so true. You know? What does he have, like a magic penis? He's not even famous.

Who is this person? In what world is he a rock star? He's like a little, like, he's in the same elk of Machine Gun Kelly. They collab. So it's like, if you're into that. Yeah, he's like a, he's a way less famous. And people are into that. Way less famous Machine Gun Kelly. Yeah. And that's not a rock star. But not everyone can have. Or a punk. Yeah, a punk star. Ask Ben what he thinks of him. I bet you, that's a great question. Because I feel like Ben doesn't even know him. Hold on. Well, then he's not a real punk lover.

Do you know any songs by Mod Sun? Say, do you know Mod Sun? Say, do you know Mod Sun? Do you know who Mod Sun is? Let's see. I'm so curious. He's on a flight, so he either will answer in two seconds or not at all. He either got Wi-Fi or he didn't. Yeah, but Ben always gets Wi-Fi. Do you always get Wi-Fi? Every single time. I actually pay for that monthly thing. Like GoGo?

Yeah, which when I was on tour, like it was really economical because a flight is like $30 for Wi-Fi. Then it's $50 a month. I really need to stop paying for it. I don't travel. Yeah. He's not answering. I don't always pay for the Wi-Fi.

Oh, she's kind of radical. Sometimes I, what did those men call it? I raw dog. You raw dog a fly. Yeah. Sometimes, but sometimes they do free texting and I'll go for that or I'll buy like a 30 minute pass just to catch up. But I like unplugging a bit. You're literally like living on a prairie. Living on a prairie. He didn't answer. Okay. So that's a cliffhanger for tomorrow's episode. Halfway there. Living on a prairie.

Living on a prairie. You'll have to tune into tomorrow's episode to see if Ben Soffer knows who Mod Sun is. And likes him. And if he does, we should like take this joke pretty far. Yeah. We should pretend like he's coming on the show. Oh my God. He responded. He used to date Bella Throne.

What about his music? I think he's some random singer. I know of him, but don't know him. Why? Do you know any of his music? But I'm going to, I think that's a no. That's a no. Bella Throne. Bella Throne. I'm cackling. What's left to say? What can I say except Bella Throne?

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