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Jackie Oshry 和 Claudia Oshry 详细讨论了她们对英国版《Love is Blind》的看法,并将其与美国版进行了比较。她们认为英国版优于美国版,因为英国参赛者的表达更清晰、更成熟,节目整体也更文明。她们分析了节目中几对情侣的关系,对每对情侣的性格、互动以及未来发展都做了深入的评价。她们特别关注 Freddie 和 Catherine 这对情侣,对 Catherine 的行为和态度表示强烈不满,认为她不配 Freddie。她们还讨论了其他几对情侣,包括 Sabrina 和 Steven,Maria 和 Tom,Jasmine 和 Bobby,以及 Demi 和 Ollie,对每对情侣的性格、互动以及未来发展都做了深入的评价,并表达了她们对这些情侣关系的个人观点和预测。 她们还讨论了节目中展现的文化差异,认为英国人和美国人在表达方式和价值观方面存在差异,并对节目中一些参赛者的言行进行了批判。

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The hosts recount their experience at Gizno Atlantic City, where a surprise engagement took place during the show. They emphasize the unique nature of this event and discuss the future of their live shows, potentially adopting the name "Girly Swirlies Night Out."
  • A surprise engagement occurred at the Gizno Atlantic City show.
  • The hosts are considering renaming their live shows to "Girly Swirlies Night Out."

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Good morning, millennials. And welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday, everyone. Hope you had a gargi-pargi weekend. It definitely wasn't as gargi-pargi as ours, but that's okay. Ours was incredibly gargi and pargi. We concluded the Gizno in Atlantic City. It was a gargi-pargi Gizno. It was. And in a gargi-pargi weekend and a gargi-pargi summer, the Gizno in Atlantic City was unlike any other as to be expected. As predicted. And we were really annoying, like, you know, in the weeks leading up being like...

Something major is happening at Gizno AC. You might want to get a ticket if you're on the fence because we're doing something major. And as we had said, we weren't lying. Something major occurred. Yeah, that's right. A swirly got engaged at our show. Like,

When I tell you this, PJom reached out to every email he could find. I don't know how he got it. He got Margo. He DM'd everyone. He wanted this so bad. He's like, listen, my girlfriend's going to be at the show. I think she would die. And Jackie and I, we get asked to do stuff like this a lot. Yeah. And it's like if you do it for one person, you have to do it for everyone. And it usually doesn't feel right. But in this particular scenario. It was right place, right time. It was perfect. Like the final jizz no. And the more we learned about Brian and Eliana, it was just, we had to do it. And it was so iconic. Yeah.

And it was seriously like the best moment of my life. I don't know if she like had an inclination. I think when she got brought up. She said she didn't. I think when she got brought up on stage, she had no idea what was about to happen. And then when we blindfolded her.

She was like, okay, wait. I think she thought we were like doing some hijinks for our crazy show. Not that like her man was side stage waiting for her. I really don't think that's what she thought. And I just want to say like, this is, I mean, we don't have any more jizz nose plan, but this isn't going to be like something we do at every jizz now. So I don't want like girlies with boyfriends to buy a ticket being like, okay, maybe this is my time. No. And also we couldn't do it again because the surprise is ruined. If we ever invite someone on stage, they're going to think they're getting engaged. So that's why it could only be

a one-time thing, a moment in time for Eliana. No, and Atlantic City is very much like a mini Vegas, so it was very much giving, you know, going to the chapel, gonna get married. You know, if we were in Vegas, we would have then driven them to the chapel. Driven? We would have gotten ordained and done a live wedding. Yeah. Yeah, you mean it, Brian? Really want to marry Eliana? How about you? I'll talk. Do it.

Do it right now. It was so cute. It was such a great show. I love Atlantic City. And the Swirlies were out. Yeah, it was a great environment. It was an amazing way to wrap up the Giz Now. We have officially, you know, done... The Giz Now has run its course. You know, I was thinking, we don't have any live shows planned and like...

Literally not, but I'm sure we will do more in the future one day. Are we going to, you know, call it the jizz now? And that's why I love the name girly swirlies night out because whenever we do it, wherever we do it, it will be a night out for the girly swirlies. So I love that. It's not topical. It's not like an inside joke. That's just now like girly swirlies night out is eternal. Okay. We could even like go back to the same city and do a girly swirlies night out. And because the show is different every time, like it's not standup, it's not a certain tour. Yeah.

It's about the night of nights. The night of nights tonight. Not only did kind of Jizz No take over our weekend, it was very much like half Jizz No, half Love is Blind UK. I saw, I think actually, you know, I've seen a lot of people watching it and I'm telling you like our sister Olivia made it go viral because it like,

It is slowly picking up steam and it's not as popular as I think a lot of the other Love is Blind seasons that are here in America. Let me tell you how much I love Love is Blind UK for the cast. Like I love, but I think it's a better show than the US for so many reasons. Cause then we were like, we caught up on all the episodes last night. We're like, let's watch like a season of Love is Blind US. We haven't seen, we're obviously like obsessed with Love is Blind. Immediately different, like immediately disliked it. Let me tell you. We turned on Houston for three minutes and we're like, no, no.

They shove Nick and Vanessa Lachey up your asses. Like why? I didn't even realize. So Emma Willis and what's his name? Mr. Willis. Her husband. They're like, I don't even know who they are. They're like UK celebrities. They were on episode eight. We have seen them four times. It is so little and it's so nice. The show does not need a host.

And I just think Nick and Vanessa Lachey comparatively have annoying personalities compared to these other two who are honestly very demure and very mindful. So off the bat, I was like, okay, this is so much more civilized. Thank you. And Love is Blind UK. I'm not sure if it's because they cast people a lot older than they do in the US or because this is just a cultural difference between the US and the UK. One of my biggest critics and some of the reasons why I find myself

unable to watch Love Island, Love is Blind US is because

People on the show, like seriously don't say anything. Like they have these long conversations in the pods and their sentences. If you look at it, it's word salad. It's like, they just use the word connection. Every other word is like, and I know. And also at the end of the day. Yes. And I know me saying that is like, you know, ironic, but I'm not on TV. It's absurd. It's insufferable. And it's like really not. And that's, I think the first season of love is blind us is different from that. Like I don't, when I'm talking about love is blind us, I'm obviously not talking about season one, which was just so important to me and precious. Um,

But people from the UK and that's, I'm not sure if it's because there are people on there who are almost 40. So they're just like a lot older and wiser or culturally like people from the UK speak differently because they're all so eloquent. They all like are saying stuff. I'm like, oh my God, like,

wow, those are sentences. Like, and I feel like I'm actually really getting to know the people and I'm really not sure if it's a cultural difference or cause you know, people on love is blind us are like 23. No, I think it's 38. I think it's cultural. First of all, I don't think 38, I think that's a red flag too. Like there's a sweet spot of age difference.

31, 2, 3.

it's like new and we don't know what it means. And we just think they're saying something like when they say cracking on and those sorts of things. And here, those words, we know them and we know them to be dumb. Yes, but I don't, that's not what I'm experiencing. Like I'm not like enjoying, I'm actually, I would say I understand 99% of what they're saying. Like I understand what they're saying, but when they do speak,

speak dumb, dumb, it sounds better than here. For sure. I don't think they're speaking dumb. I think if they are speaking dumb, it's 10% compared to a hundred percent in America. Like, and I felt like myself getting less interested when I watched the U S seasons. Cause I'm like, what the hell are these people saying? It's just like, it's like reality TV words. Yeah. And it's so frustrating because I've never felt like I, I, the reason I love love is blind. You asked that for a season. It was like, so real, you know, it's like what Jasmine's mom said, like

uneducated people can be difficult to communicate with. She's so right. So really quick, we're on episode eight. There are, I think, two more episodes coming out on Wednesday. So if you guys want to watch with us, like you have plenty of time, the weddings come out on Wednesday and like the bachelorette part, I think they're going to call it a hen. I think that's what they call it. And a stag. A stag, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so good for a multitude of reasons. But like for us, like there is...

And like, there's only really one reason to watch. There's like life before Freddie and life after Freddie. And let me tell you, Jax, like they don't make men like Freddie anymore. And what he's, what's happening to him on the show, like I'm not going to spoil it for anyone, but it's hard to watch. It is. I love this man with my whole heart. Like,

He deserves the world. And when him and his chosen beloved decided to get together, I was very, very excited for them and very hopeful. I had a small concern that maybe she wasn't woman enough for him. Jackie did say those exact words. But I really held out hope that like they could be right for each other. And now seeing what I've seen, like she's not woman enough for him. Like she's

doesn't deserve him. I don't really... It would take seriously Mother Teresa, but I believe she's out there. For me, Molly Mae and Freddie. But he does kind of look like Tommy, like a little bit. Oh, yeah. And Zach, who, you know, Love Is Blind is his favorite show. And he also watched Love Island Season 5 UK with me. So he knows Tommy and Molly as well. And he just keeps calling him Tommy. Yeah. Because they are so similar. They sound alike. And then Freddie's whole thing is he's very much a homebody. He doesn't like, like, the high life, the fast life. And I mean, is anybody more...

homie than Molly Mae, Mason Molly? No, no. Freddie would be an amazing stepfather for sure. Freddie also has spoken about how like really his whole life revolves around his older brother who has Down syndrome. And it's like, he's coming from this place of just purity. Everything that comes out of his mouth, he couldn't be sweeter. And he just ends up with a girl who's like high life city. Like, and, and at first you think like, oh, well they'll just live like they're combined their lives. They love each other so much that like they'll just be Freddie and her. So very quickly. I'm saying her because I,

I'm trying not to spoil it. Well, what I'm about to say is I want to go through really quickly our thoughts on every couple. So starting now, like if you haven't seen it and you're never going to watch it, like you can listen. But if you are, skip ahead a couple of minutes. Let's just go couple by couple. Yeah, we'll refer to the timestamps. Couple by couple. Okay, spoilers start now. Sabrina and Steven. Well, let's finish Freddie and Catherine. Oh, okay. Freddie and Catherine. Okay, sorry. We were being nice before. Fucking hate. No, like she's just...

It's hard because with reality TV, it's like, I really want to give my thoughts, but you also have to remember, like, it's real people. I hope she never hears this. Yeah. Like, pray. No, her and her friends are just awful. She will hear the thing.

She could act in any sort of way that she wants. The way that she's acting, she's not acting in a way that she's not good enough for him. She's not. She keeps picking fights with him, even like, stop petting me. I'm not a dog. The way she reacted when he said that he had cheated once when it's clearly something he feels so horrible about, like, and she couldn't get over it. And it's like, actually, in this one instance, I'm like, I feel like it's almost good. And by the way, I will defend anything Freddie has ever done. Anything wrong he ever said, I don't care. You guys say I'm biased. Here, I will admit it.

I actually think in this instance, it's better that he once cheated because he knows how awful it feels and that he never wants to do it again. Well, that's like the one thing that we learned about him. That's complete. When he said that, like we were the room gasped, like it was really in Congress with what we know about him and how we know him to be our, our little PJ on Friday. And I would, I would love if she, she just like immediately judged and closed down. And I would love for her to have asked more questions about like what that period of like, maybe he was going through a rough patch. Like,

Maybe it was like love in other words where like he was like really drunk and taking advantage of like, and he didn't know. No, like for real, there's really, it was so confusing and so shocking. I wish she had asked more questions like about the circumstances around it instead of just like labeling him as a cheater. Once a cheat, always a cheat. And I just want to say to me, she started pushing him away and picking fights after she saw Ali. Oh yeah, by the way. Because before she saw Ali, these two could have floated off in a cloud. They were so high. And I just want to say, I don't like Ali, but did Ali cry?

clock her and the pods almost immediately. I was like, oh my God, this guy's writing her off because she says what kind of clubs she goes to. Now that might be a reference that I don't understand because he literally knew exactly that she was materialistic, you know, goes out every night, like not really looking seriously to settle down and slow down your life. And which is what I think a lot of the people who show up to this show are like, well,

way to get a read on someone ollie when seriously i think ollie's the worst yeah no a lot of people read each other very quickly like jasmine and sam loved that just the last thing i want to say about sam and katherine because i don't think they're gonna get married and i don't think that they should freddie and katherine if they get married like i like call freddie's funeral phone like home because i'll need my burial like i won't be okay when she went to his house and he like showed her his outfit that he wears for his funeral directing like i'm sorry i'm sorry

I love this man. And I know some people are like, you're all direct. Like, let me tell you, you make, you're yucky. No, not only are you yucky. Cause like a living is a living Tom. We'll get to that.

a living is living. Let me tell you what a stable lucrative job that is. You know, whenever it goes out of business, death, like it's kind of, yes, it's, it's off the beaten path. It's when you're looking for a partner who's going to like provide for you, there's nothing more. So you might as well, like, like it's just as stable as like accounting, you know, death and taxes. Those are the two things people always can rely on. Like, I don't like how judgment when she was like telling her friends, she was like, clearly her friends are also judgmental. Like you could learn a lot about people, but based on who they hang out with and they were like,

a funeral director. Excuse my, like hate, hate, hate. No, she's shallow. And in any, if she were in another couple with someone else who had like red flags, I'd be like, Oh, they can make it work. Whatever.

can work whatever I wouldn't find it so offensive is just like we've never seen anyone like him on reality television we as a society and like he deserves the best and she's not even be like she could be anyone who she wanted to be like before the show and I feel that way about everyone like I don't care what you did Bobby's music video like okay I agree when you show up to the show like who are you starting now when you say yes and like

She has just fumbled the ball. No. And you can tell she's like looking for fights because she wants a reason to say no. Who would want a reason to say no? It was really crazy to see her. Like, you know, girls are always like starting stuff, right? Like when they were shopping and she was like, so when we get married, like, will you want to come to the shops with me? And he was like, no, but like, I'll come with you and I'll sit like everyone else. You go to a department store, you always see guys sitting on the couch. He's like, I'll sit on the sofa and I'll wait for you.

So in our life together, you won't want to go shopping with me. I feel like I'm dragging you. And then she like, and I really couldn't tell, does she want him to go shopping with her or not? What is the right answer? No, that like, that scene was really emblematic of her being the problem for, for sure. Yeah. I feel like she saw life with Freddie as like, you know, very boring. And I think she wants someone who like, once the show airs and they're on their Instagram trajectory, who's going to like milk it with her for all it's worth, like doing club appearances. No, no.

Like she's in it for the club appearances. Yes. And the free tables. It's becoming increasingly painful to watch because he's so precious. And like all, like every time I see him, I like want to cry. Like he talks about his family with such like respect and his job with such, even though they were laughing at his job, he's like, no, like it's not sad. Like I feel, you know, the responsibility to take care of people at their lowest moments. Like he's so precious. Oh, and he's the best looking person we've ever seen. Oh, I forgot to mention.

Literally, like everyone else in the show is a dog compared to this guy. You never saw someone so hot in your fucking life. And she's just really shallow. She can't even understand. Like he brought up the idea of a prenup. Like, you know, if I pass away, I want everything to go to my sister. And she's immediately like, well, what about like, she's not even thinking it has something to do with he loves his sister so much. He feels this like enormous responsibility to take care of his brother who has Down syndrome. And I'm sure that's what he was referring to. If she let him fucking finish his sentence, she's like gossiping with her friends like,

he wants to leave his money to his sister. He's already planning for when he leaves you. And by the way, it wasn't about when he leaves her. It was about in event of his death. No, seriously. Like her and her friends were the blind leading the blind. I don't know how three people so shallow all found each other. Yeah. They're perfect for each other. They should get married. There was one friend who seemed nice and she's just grouped in. No, I think she's shallow too, but she had like a self-awareness to the fact that they're on TV. She's like, oh, my parents are going to see this. Let me act normal for 35 seconds. Cause you can't, if you're, you can't be friends with two people like that who are like, if you're so different. Yeah.

So they're obviously like the main thing we're obsessed with, but there are a lot of honestly really good couples. Strong couples. In terms of strength, I think we all can agree like Steven and Sabrina are probably going to get married. Yeah. But I was also saying this happens all the time on Love is Blind where like Steven and Sabrina are solid as a rock and then they show up at the altar and then they're like, no. Yeah. And we never really get answers because they've just been like, I guess, faking it the whole time. I don't think that's what's going to happen. They seem perfect for each other. Yeah. And,

if there is like a reason for them not to get married, it's that Foucault story he told about his like ex-girlfriend who had a terminally ill tumor. And then she broke up with him after months of like treatment and like her case getting worse. And then him saying, she broke up with me and she's also fine.

yeah they never followed up on that i have so many questions that to me was such a red flag like you're terminally ill girlfriend broke up with you no not only that and then she's still alive right right maybe you were seriously the tumor maybe she was like faking it to get rid of you and then you stayed and so then she had to break i don't know and sabrina's just like crying with him being like oh my god that's beautiful thank you for sharing that with me and it's like i have questions there's more to that story there is more i have so many questions

But otherwise, I do think they're solid. Yeah. Like, great. Moving on. Someone who is extremely interesting to me is Alexa and Tom. From the beginning, I think we... It's Alexa and Tom. Oh, not Alexa. Maria. Maria. She reminds me of Alexa Lemieux. Like, so much confidence. Like, seriously, I'm obsessed with her level of confidence. And we, when we were watching the show, like, we immediately did not get good vibes from Tom in the pods. No.

His age is definitely concerning. Like you're 38 and this is how you want to meet someone. It's just, it's confusing. He's super judgmental and that was coming through. And then he outright said, probably one of the most judgmental things I've ever heard anyone say once he got out of the pods. They were talking about her job. She's a makeup artist. And by the way, she's the best sort of advertisement. If I go to the UK, like I would literally book her. Her makeup is gorgeous. Her makeup is gorgeous. Always fresh dewy. Even at the beach in Greece, I'm like, damn, what's setting spray? She is really...

talented. And he was like, yeah, like when I heard what you did, like I found a judge, like I found it, you know, odd because I really think that he's quote in his words, a high powered PR executive. Okay. Nobody high powered says that they're high powered, but nonetheless. And he was like, when I, you know, first learned what you did, like I was, you know, it took me back a little bit. Cause you know, that's kind of a deal breaker for me. Someone who's not ambitious. Yeah. Yeah.

Also, I just want to say there is nobody on the planet more ambitious than a makeup artist, like running around town all day, lugging your kit. It's so physical. And then you also have this like artistry and then you also have to be marketing clients. Oh my God. It was so judgmental. Yeah. The fact that she didn't leave him in that minute. And I thought she handled it. She has so much patience for him. Even in the pods, he was like saying all this stuff to the women about how like once they give birth, they've got to get back to work. Yeah.

Yeah, she was like, I would like to have like one year, two years at home with my baby. Like, I don't want to miss that. And he was like, I don't want to miss it either. Like he's obsessed with ambition to work, Tom. No, but he wants to stay home too. It's like he literally wants to find a woman to like be his sugar mama, take care of him.

Yucky. And then they also have like that issue where she kind of starts, it happened off camera, but they went to dinner, you know, dinner date. He paid the next morning. They go out for breakfast. She was like, Oh, do you want me to get this one? And he was like, okay. And she seriously was so mad. So she had said she comes from like a really traditional background. Oh my God. And also like,

it's love is mine is so interesting because you like learn about things people have been through in their life that are so crazy right when she told us how her dad died I was like oh damn she was like oh he had terminal cancer I'm like oh that's sad but that's literally not how we died like she was like he left to there for Morocco he went to Morocco he like knew he was gonna die and he went to say his goodbyes he has a lot of family there he's a big a big community and seriously lockdown started the next day he was stuck in Morocco and just like passed away there yeah without any of the members of his family like oh my god awful

Like, and every time she talks about her dad, she starts crying. And, and I think obviously like losing a parent is triggering, but that's the craziest way to lose someone that like, I don't think, and her sister too, when they went home, the sister brought up the dad, she immediately started crying. Like,

it's so that's seriously the craziest story I've ever heard. Like I couldn't believe it, but back to her and Tom. Yes. He is, they have this like weird, she's very traditional and she like owns that too. She's like, I know this is like not okay to say, but like, I think the man should be a provider. And she talks like, cause she like her cultural background is like, that's the vibe. And like, thank you. Like that's just so honest. Yeah. She's so honest. She's also like handles awkward or uncomfortable situations so well. Like the way she carries herself, I think is admirable. Like she's,

Like when, what's her name? Tash. Yeah. He finally meets the other girl at the bar and she lets him talk like for a good amount of time. And then it gets to a point where it's like actually disrespectful, the length. Yeah. And she just comes over and she's like, tell my feet hurt. Like, can we go find somewhere to sit? Like, okay. The balls of steel. Yeah. Admirable. No. And you see it play out with so many other situations where they're like quivering and

And then by the time they go over there, they like make such a big deal out of it. And everybody's like clocking, taking their temperature. It's just so awkward. And she just is a pro. Jasmine too. We love Jasmine. We'll get to her relationship, but that's not the main storyline about Jasmine. No, no, no. Jasmine is a queen. No, Jasmine and...

And I keep calling her Alexa. No, no, no. Maria. Maria. It's that's been so interesting to also see like how women in the UK carry themselves. Like that's what a strong woman looks like in the UK. I feel like we see strong women on love is blind a lot. Not like this. Like Laura, Jaramami. Yeah, but it's Jaramami. I feel like a strong, bold woman in the UK is different than a strong, bold woman in America.

I don't know other than they have an accent. No, I think the way that they carry themselves, like Jasmine and Maria really are so similar to me in the way they carry themselves. Like they like project this persona and that's how people see them. Like it's so convincing and it's so, I don't know what the, it's like strong, but it's a different word. Like it's,

They're just like very smart. Yeah. It's really nice to watch. And also like Tom, I hope that they don't get married. They're talking as if they are going to, but like, I don't think that they're right for each other. I think that he's a prick. Yeah. And that she deserves someone better and warmer and kinder. And even though she like laughs off all of his barbs and like he's sarcastic and mean and

we did see that afterwards she cried about the makeup artist thing, even though like in the moment she handled herself, like with so much race, she's still holding his hand. Like how strong are you to not like give him the reaction that he wants? And then like, she goes and cries. You have, you cannot marry that person. No, you, they're really not right for each other. And I just can't believe he said that on TV. I can only imagine. And they don't film them in their apartments that much. So what they had one hour of filming and that's what he decides to say. Like he's like a scary mean person. And you know that millions of people are going to see that. So that's obviously like,

not the worst thing that you say yeah i can only imagine what he says to her when the cameras are off like seriously i'm thinking of her and in a situation like that like they're really acting like they're going to get married so are they just acting because like this is an a show and the big if is if they're going to say yes or no so she's getting us to the finish line or like is she really going to marry this person because she's talking about how she wants a seat at the table for her dad at their wedding like are you going to have a reception i know

Let's talk about Jasmine and Bobby. We love Jasmine. Love. Oh my gosh. Every girl in the pod. I feel like, I mean, this is also just like my perspective, but I just feel like everyone's been impacted by Jasmine and like her tutelage. You know, everyone needs a friend like Jasmine. One, like for the advice, but I just also feel like the way that she carries herself and the way she like dresses

is so great. She's really a girl's girl. Done to the nines and I feel like she's just like someone you would want in your bunk and whose clothes you would be stealing. Who would give you confidence that you would bring with you to the school year. And whose bed you'd always be sitting on. She has the best story. She lets you borrow her clothes. Yeah, and now you know she gets it from her mom. Which,

queen best character agreed on the show they were hyping up her mom so much i'm like what is she gonna be like she was more than i expected like yeah seriously she was hysterical hysterical and like pretty factual to cut like all the concerns that she has like are legit concerns one that the process is concerning but like i think you have to set that aside and trust that your child hasn't gone off the rails and that like if they do marry this person within a month like

They just happened to get it right. But then you have to talk about the person. Like, can you provide for my daughter? Where are you going to live? Like, these are legit questions. And I feel like the thing we know least about Jasmine is about her relationship with Bobby. Like, I thought that they were kind of like not a strong couple, but like she's a strong woman and I'm enjoying watching their storyline. But then they had that conversation for the last date before the weddings and like they're getting married. Yeah, no, they just have been like coasting and we don't know a lot about them.

But I actually think they're really well suited for each other because Jasmine is a really type, like a strong type of personality, right? She kind of is alpha. And he's like a little beta and it kind of works. Yeah. Like, yeah, it'd be nice for her to get someone who's like, you know, big personality, make lots of money, but

you can't have like two hotheads in a relationship like that. And there's really only room for, for Jasmine in that relationship. And I think Bobby fits kind of perfectly in her life. And I, and I kind of like him. I think he really likes her. Yeah. I mean, who wouldn't? No, she's fabulous. And I think he like appreciates what we appreciate about her. He just kind of like sits back and lets her shine. And I like kind of love her. Yeah. I think that they're so great. I think there's, there's a chance that they say yes to one another.

After what they said, their conversation before weddings was the most convincing thing I ever saw because they were the only couple not talking about the wedding day. They were talking about their future together. It wasn't about like, if I say yes, who's sitting where? It was like, my dress is for you. It was about like, she used the word, our love is eternal. That person's getting married or she deserves an Oscar. Yeah. The last couple is Demi and Ali who...

I think another one that literally I'm like, are they going to say yes? I think they are. Are they going to be together forever? Or is one of them going to kill the other? Like it's so confusing. They had the roughest, I think start post pods, but they've kind of taken a back seat in the last couple of episodes. Just like being stable. I think a lot of us,

felt like Ollie didn't like. And I think a lot of the girls were receiving that too because Jasmine in Greece is like, if you don't like her, just be honest. And he's like acting one way but saying something completely different. So it's really confusing for her and for everyone else watching. It's like, you say you're committed. You say you've never been happier. You say she's the only girl for you. But your body language, the things you're saying, the way you're acting is weird. Yeah. And I think a lot of the girls are picking up on things that we can't pick up

At home Yeah Because everyone's like Demi what's wrong with you Demi you feel different Demi you're not the girl we met And it's not just like They're being annoying Because then later in the season When they're out together again They're like

We're back. They're like, you feel like you again, you know? So they're not just like looking for stuff. No, no. And she like at points she makes me really sad because she admits that she, you know, is kind of this insecure person and this process has made her even more insecure. And I don't know. I, I feel like every time she's on my screen, she's a different person. Yeah. Like I think that,

in her own life she was going through something and then the timing of the show like didn't help. I think we're watching someone like actively go through something and I don't even know what that thing is. Yeah. And then with Ollie, it's like, it was so bad. I'm like, these two will never, could never. But then like with the family's meeting, like, I don't know, it's like kind of going well. It's going well. And I'm like confused. Like, are they about to get married? Yeah. And it's, it is really interesting. Like kind of the elephant in the room is like, this is the first time, maybe not the first time, but I think Love is Blind,

While the concept is good, the one thing they really don't breach on is people of different weights. And I think that there have been a few instances where there is someone, usually a girl, who is, you know, because everyone that they cast, like while they all look different, they're all like kind of

you know, on the same league. Yeah. And weight is a thing in relationships, right? Like people won't date someone who's not in shape, especially if like fitness is a big part of your life. And I feel like they never really get into that. The couple of like, when I think of plus size people who have been on the show, it's like Alexa, right? And Alexa met a man who seriously like

like couldn't, could not be more obsessed with her if he tried. It's like kind of a fairytale scenario. I think if you're a plus size person who's been on dates, like you know that that's not the case most of the time. Last season there was Chelsea, right? Who was like, was plus size. It never got brought up and she kind of self-sabotaged before it could even be a conversation. So they've never really, I think, tackled that. And I think it's, I mean, I feel awkward even like saying these things. Like it's kind of like a big thing. And I see people who are like talking about it on TikTok who talk about their experience dating as a plus size person. It's like,

it's such a thing in dating. And, you know, it's usually like if a man is overweight, like nobody fucking cares. I'm talking about women. And so Demi, I think is coming, like she's, she's like having this experience in real time. And that's why when she went on the, um,

dress shopping excursion, she ended up like giving this sort of like lecture to everyone, like this moment of empowerment. And it's because like, she's like, yeah. And I think like Ollie, like really loves her. I think. You think? And I think she was like realizing that at the,

And she's like, look at me. I'm trying on dresses on TV, which is like something I would never do. Yeah. No, and she's acknowledged. Even before she met Ali, she was like worried about what she looked like and how he would react to that. But then he also said that she's got curves in all the right places. And she is so beautiful. So I feel like they discuss that. I think the issue with Ali and Demi is like, even if,

ollie was giving her all the assurance that she needed which he's not and i do feel like at points he was gaslighting me not anymore since they've been back in london might just like be easier to like stay apart until they say no i have no idea and they like hanging out with each other's friends so that's good um even if he was doing all of that like demi's insecurities are going to sabotage this relationship because like she's really like not giving off positive energy like especially on the honeymoons like

Dre cup. Yeah. And that's just like not the vibe for a honeymoon. Like you want to be like smiley and the energy and not like this, this storm cloud. So like, I feel like she was right to feel that way most of the time because he was like,

Being confusing, but she was not helping her case with her energy of just like grumpy cat. Yeah. However, she is so much happier now. And now it's like, okay, she is that like positive ray of light. And so I do see their relationship differently. And like, maybe they will go all the way. Yeah. I think there's a chance, but she's so crazy. Yeah. I think it would be crazy if they said yes. Just like.

no just like what like no and they're they're genuinely like not well suited for each other like yeah and i think demi deserves like a nice man better and more no someone who will give her like that affection and stuff she's always just like asking for more and like no and always acting that way every now and then you see like his mask slip a little bit like when he got up talking about charlotte i could say charlotte's gorgeous fire also like charlotte like i think everybody loves charlotte and when we were watching the pods i'm like who is that girl like she kind of like

busted through the lens with like her personality and she was so cute looking. Charlotte, I don't think she said one. I still don't think she said one word. You just see her in the background like working out or journaling and it's like, who's that? Wait, I'm sorry. We forgot about Nicole and Benaiah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I actually really liked them as a couple, but it needs to be said that like, I don't think Nicole is okay. Like seriously, how anyone could choose Sam when, and not only, and I know Benaiah really struggled to,

verbalize it and maybe he didn't do it enough because he was just like listen I don't think he's here for genuine reasons like what he should have said is he called you fat like no because he didn't because how can he call her fat when he has it he insinuated what he should have said is like he won't love you if you're fat like he was worried about a comment that you made but I don't know what the right way to go about it is there like Jasmine said something to him about it but Naya two people who I think she really respects and she still chose him yeah well I think I'm trying to like empathize with her because I feel like

with Benaiah, the connection was really strong, but like he was sort of like giving nothing non-committed. Like if, if she chooses him, will he choose her? And will he propose? I feel like she didn't have that assurance. And she's someone who really wants to be in love, like really wants to be married, a very serious girl. And here's Sam saying everything you want to hear. Now us as the viewer, we can see, he said that to everyone. We can see he's full of shite, like more than anyone who's ever been on TV before. He's an anomaly to me. He will say anything literally is so strange. Anything.

to stay on this show and get married and like we can see that but for her who just wants to feel loved it's like wow this man is saying everything and like she doesn't even have she it's only hearing it through a wall you can't get intonation or genuine you like you really have to trust and if she's not trusting the process what is she doing there I also think she's just someone who doesn't have like good instinct but like a

Immediately when she saw him, she could feel that something was off and like that he is not genuine. He's literally just saying whatever. The reveals like seriously will never cease to make me so uncomfortable. Like even the best ones, right? No, the best ones. There's nothing better than a best. Like I think of some of the best ones as being like Lauren and Cameron and

And I don't remember that one. I remember Alexa and Brennan. Like seriously, Jackie, I can't believe you didn't watch that season. It's seriously the best one. Maybe I'll watch it. Um, so Benaiah and Nicole, I actually do think that they're well suited for one another. I don't think they'll get married. I think they should get married. I think they're perfect together. I think she'll say yes.

And he'll say no? I don't know. Even though he was crying in Germany? To his mom, yeah. I think they should both say yes. Not us learning so much about the UK just in time for us to see that graphic. Like, it's kind of gorgeous. No, and so Sabrina's from Ireland. They had to take a plane. Then the Irish sea, the mom's worried about because he works in London. Right, Benaiah. Right, right, right, right. Benaiah is...

From the north? He goes north for his landscape. Oh, that's the other thing. Culturally. He goes north. We are learning so much about different jobs that don't exist. Oh my God. We're trying to figure out what Demi does as a supervisor to the attendance. She's the supervisor of the attendance team and what that means. Okay. So we looked it up in a school. My guess was HR. Not right. So in a school, there's a thing called like an attendance manager or team of attendance, whatever. And they like look out for kids. Like a truant officer?

I don't know what that is. They look out for kids who are chronically, who are chronically absent. And that's a true an officer. Demi is the supervisor of the attendance team attendance. That feels like a very specific way for them to write it on TV when it could have been like school counselor or school worker. Yeah. Super. Maybe it's a superintendent. Maybe she's just. Yeah. So if anybody knows like what the U S word for that is, we're like, also what does Bobby do? Luxury shopping guide on a cruise.

No, I looked that up. You guys are so hung up about the thing that he said about cruises. But I feel like that was something he did one time. And I was getting like a below deck vibe. That's just me. No, I looked it up. It's like a thing on cruises. Like your job is to help people shop. It's like you work in sales. Like you make commission. Okay. Yeah. A lot of confusing. And Jasmine is a mental health nurse.

Oh, is she? Yeah. I've not heard of that. So what's the equivalent? Counselor? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Counselor snitch. Jasmine would be the most amazing counselor. Like, give me all your advice. Catherine is a dental nurse. That's easy. Yeah. Frankie, Freddie is a funeral director. The jobs, though, that's super interesting to me. Tom is PR. Maria is makeup. Makeup artist. Sabrina? I don't remember. I don't remember. Steven? I know Steven owns a gym. Right, at CrossFit. With his buddies. Right. Nicole? Nicole?

Corporate lawyer. Like she has a big high pay. She's like a big swing in. Yeah. She makes a lot of money. Nice. But I ask structural landscaper, whatever that gardener, like what is that? I think that's like, yeah. Landscaper. I think it could be a, you could be like the architect of landscaping. It could be the actual show on Bravo where they had like those backyard designers. Yeah. I think that's what he does. Like a landscaper. Yeah. But like a landscaper can mean a million things, but maybe like structural. So what, like if I want to build a portico chair,

Yeah. I would call Benaiah. I would love one. Or like that guy with the commercials. Cambridge paving stones. Paving stones. Yeah. They always look like new. Or like if I wanted a Zen garden. Right. Right. Or if you were like building patio with an outdoor fireplace or something. Someone who comes in and like structures your landscape. I literally need a structure. I have a lot of plans. Yeah. But I don't know. Like I actually have been looking. What if you just called Benaiah up? I've been looking for the term.

term for the person that I'm looking for. And thank you. Love is buying UK. I think I'm looking for a structural landscaper. Like I need my Zen garden for my cold plunge in my garden. Ding, ding, ding. I'm going to start a garden when I get home. Are you excited? I am. I am. Um, are you guys excited to hear about it? It's going to be great. I have a green thumb. The weddings come out, I think on when the 21st three day Wednesday, I think we will keep you abreast. If you

I haven't watched. Honestly, I can't recommend it enough. It's one of the best seasons of TV I've seen in a while. Most of you watch Love is Blind. So if you're into that vibe, vibe trope, this is such a good one. Like so many great cast of characters and you'll be introduced to Freddie, who's like seriously the best person we've ever seen on TV. Agreed. Like if not for Freddie alone. And I just need like a lifetime of happiness for him with Molly Mae. Agreed.

And like I'm sure Molly Mae is like down in the dumps watching Love is Fine UK. She should slide into his Instagram although we looked at his Instagram and it leaves much to be desired so maybe don't look at it. He's obviously like not had the royal treatment yet. Yeah yeah yeah. He needs to go through his old social media posts dad.

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nothing lies. A big lie. Dakota Johnson flashes her massive Emerald engagement ring at paparazzi after shutting down Chris Martin split rumors. So Dakota and Chris are still together. That story that was reported everywhere, not even just like us getting it wrong. It was, it was fact. It was, it was,

not fact no but like it was reported as fact it was reported as fact yeah it wasn't like a theory um they're still together going strong how does that happen i don't know why does that happen like nobody even it's not even like they're often reported on it's not like ben and jen right right right so who by the way i'm getting so fatigued with like i i like don't even want you to choose them as stories i don't choose them as stories like until the filing yeah i don't choose it as a story of course they're certainly getting they're split up like

Yeah. He's there. Even though she was at Jennifer Garner's house. Every once in a while, they do something to like throw off the scent. She was just at the mall with one of the Affleck kids. Like if you're a step parent for such a short period of time and the kids are much older, like. And they have a very involved mother. Like do you hang out with them post divorce? No. No. So they're trying to throw off the scent until the filing happens. We won't be talking about it.

Happy to know Dakota and Chris are still together. Like I definitely wasn't happy to hear that they had split. Same. And it took some of my serotonin away and now I can put it back. No, I really like these two. And it's like, they're such a stable force in Hollywood. I think they have a lot of really famous friends. I think people really like them like in the culture, but also in Hollywood itself. So I'm so glad that they're not broken up. Although I was excited about the prospect of Dakota Johnson being back on the dating scene. Like we have to take her off our list. I wasn't even because I don't think she would ever be dating someone like as...

interesting to us and he's like as chris martin like i feel like the next person she did would be like a true person we don't know anything about or like an indie artist like i'm glad it's like the big indie artist yeah the biggest of them you know no i'm so happy that this was not like she's going out with zach efron but the low state of entertainment journalism like how is it so widely reported confirmed that two people broke up who are literally together right and i'm obsessed with this picture of her flashing her ring looking at the paparazzi like you stupid idiots you know she's not even smiling she's like i'm

Like dumb ass. Yeah. It's like, it's giving condescending in the best possible way. I, they can never make me hate her. Nobody does condescension like Dakota Johnson. Nobody. That's not true, Ellen. Well, that's not true. Constantly. People are lying about her. It's,

It's so true. Like why? And I would feel bad for her, but I don't think there's a person more privileged on the planet. Like seriously, born into Hollywood royalty became the face of the, one of the biggest movie franchises in history without ever acting a day in her life. Before it even came out, it was a billion dollar movie. There was no question that it was going to be. And I want to say something and it's going to sound mean, but it's not because I love her. Like Dakota Johnson, like literally can't act. Like it's insane. She did such a bad job in that movie. Like the whole time I was like, Oh, this is a woman acting community theater.

I love how like she literally doesn't give a fuck. She did Madam Web, like one of the worst movies ever made, went on tour and was like, I was like, totally agree with you guys. This movie is horrible. It sounds like it was written by AI. Like she's so real for that. No, she keeps it real. They could never make me hate her. Yeah, no, it's must be nice to be Dakota Johnson. Like seriously, what does Dakota worry about? No, I know everyone's life is their own behind closed doors. La la la la la.

Nobody's life is perfect. I do feel like Dakota Johnson's is extremely close. Even like her, you know, what would be beef with the ex-wife, gargi-pargi relationship, a best friend for life. Yeah, and don't get me wrong. I'm sure, you know, Dakota Johnson has demons. I'm sure Dakota Johnson has things. And the hardest thing that's ever happened to Dakota is still the hardest thing that ever happened to her. Just because you're drowning in 60 feet of water and I'm drowning in 10 feet of water doesn't mean I'm not drowning, for sure. Although I would like to just take a swim in Dakota's pool. Like, I just...

She's one of the people. It's like temperature perfect. It probably doesn't have chlorine. It's definitely like a saltwater pool. And she's really gorgeous. And she's so unique looking too. Like I feel like all these bitches today, like everybody looks the same. Even the most beautiful girls. I'm like, I could tell you three girls who look like that. Not to be like a, you know, a woman hater. She is so unique looking. She doesn't look like anyone that I know. Yeah. I just, I'm sorry. I love her. And she stays winning. She's so rich. She's so famous. And she does nothing. Like she literally tries everything.

so little. I love it. Yeah. It's nice. Like there should be people out there like that. Yeah. To the balance, like the equilibrium or whatever. Exactly. So happy to report they're still together. Right. Right. And it's like, even when there was bad Dakota news, it never existed. Like that's the kind of life she lives. Totally. Our next person, uh,

story was probably someone who we would have said all those things about three weeks ago but now like things have taken a nosedive for Blake Lively. This is not fun anymore. No. I saw it was a TikTok it was from Amanda Hirsch she was like seriously this is like I was having fun like now we're like really canceling people I'm out. No I totally agree Blake Lively is now being called out again for repeatedly using a problematic transgender slur in resurfaced interviews. So a quote from her 20th

12 interview with Elle and from what I've seen it's a it's a it's a text quote it's not her saying this on video or anything but she she gave a gave a quote to Elle saying I hope to have a few girls one day oh this is also funny knowing that she like has so many girls she said quote I hope to have a few girls one day if not girls they better be you guys know the word for transgender that rhymes with granny like I it's not

if you don't know the word. No, for sure. It's hard to report on when people have drama with slurs because you guys are like, what slur? Right. Like when it was S-P-A-Z. Right, right. That was a really confusing one. It was. Now, I want to say something because... Wait, so she said, if not girls, they better be grannies because I have some amazing shoes and bags and stories that need to be appreciated. So she uses the word, not derogatory at all. I think she's like hoping for one, you know? It's important to note, and I'm like...

I, what the reference that I always use, and I'm sure everyone's tired of me saying it is sex in the city, right? Is there a show that celebrates the LGBTQ plus community more? Is there literally written and created by a gay man? Like it's, you can't say sex in the city is homophobic or transphobic, right? They use that word in a couple of episodes where Samantha has those ladies outside her window who like won't be quiet at night. And there was a time where that is how, you know, the community was referenced. I think

RuPaul has spoken about it at length. It's a word he uses all the time. He loves it. And he like won't give it up and he doesn't find it offensive. I do think it's like,

We are now currently living in the era of like post, but there was an era where it was okay. Yeah. As with, with a lot of things as with just like language and culture. Fergie, let's get it started. Right, right, right. And like, I'm sorry, in high school, like you could not stop me using that word. Like, I'm just going to be honest. Like I used it all the time. Entourage. Entourage. They use our word all the time. F word. Yep. R word. T word. No friends. They don't use the F word. They use. F.

You said they did an entourage. I get an entourage. Yeah. I'm our season one. Every other word is the F slur or the R slur. Like, and that just, it was the culture at the time. So now we're just, and this is what, what I was saying at the beginning, like I am no longer having fun with the NNs with us drama. Cause now like someone's being canceled. That's like, seriously, not what I signed up for.

I don't participate in like going back to people's, you know, tweets, interviews. She said this publicly. It wasn't like she was caught on record saying it privately. Like this is a time where using a word like that was okay. She's actually using it in a complimentary way. Right. The magazine published it. They,

didn't ask eric it out that she said a slur yep yep so like this they wouldn't print a slur i have officially like stopped participating in the it ends with us drama and i think i literally invented the drama like i i'm not having fun anymore like for real yeah this isn't so not where i wanted it to go and this has nothing to do with me being team blake this is just i don't participate in cancel culture like this like i don't know and this is textbook cancel culture like this is

14 years ago a word that at the time again was not starred out in this interview l magazine printed this people saw it it wasn't an issue at the time because it was before people really took umbrage with that word in a in a mainstream way like i'm sure at the time there were people who were offended by that word but the general public like did not know that and it was a different time there are a lot of things that occur at different times and like

those people's feet are not held to the fire. There is a lot of grace for that. It just depends who it is. And I don't play that. Like this person can get away with it and that person can't. Agreed. Like seriously, this is so not fun. This is so not what I want to be talking about. Like, Oh my God, times change. Like that's it. Times change. Like things are different. That was 14 years, 12 years ago. Oh my God. Not me. Like not being able to do math. What did I say? I don't know. I think I said 14. Cause I was like, maybe that's why it was in my head. Cause I was like, should I say 50? Right. No, 2024, 2012, 12 years. Yeah. Like,

I'm like, no. And if Blake Lively had like a history of being like, you know, beating up trans folks, like maybe this would be cause for concern. She seems lovely. I think she's probably accepting of all types of people and I don't give a fuck. How about that? Yeah. No, this is a serious, serious reach. This is a serious reach. And like, we've gotten to like, this is what we're doing now. Yeah. And I just like, I'm sorry. This is my thesis on life. Ready? Nobody hates women more than women. Like this is a,

We started here because like everyone in the cast was wary of Justin Baldoni. Like it was clear, like everybody had beef with him. Right. This is where we got to. And, and don't get me wrong. Like this is a story. This is the only, the only people who care about what's going on in the ads with us are women. Right. So we have gone to a place now where this is what, what we're doing to Blake Lively. Yeah. Like you're just never going to catch me doing this. Like seriously, this is such embarrassing behavior. Touch grass.

Yeah. I think now like Blake Lively is probably just going to lay low. And she should. Seriously. Yeah. I think the press tour is probably over or it should end and like people need to move on. I'm sorry. Like I really can't.

I can't get into this. And I know people like don't like what I'm saying and I actually don't care. Like we are being so critical and so hard on how like Colleen Hoover and Blake Lively are promoting this movie. Like I have never seen such a critical analysis of how a film... So many movies tackle serious issues. Some movies tackle more serious issues. There are Holocaust movies maybe. Have we ever sat back and been like, I don't like how George Clooney is promoting this movie. Like we have literally never done that. And so it's... I just...

Yeah. You guys know how we feel at this point, but just letting you know, like it's really taken a crazy turn. Yeah. No, I'm seriously, I'm done now. Yeah. Until further notice. I'm going to be real with you. You look like clowns in the words of Kim Kardashian, like going back. This is just behavior I don't participate in. I don't. Yeah. Yeah.

Next story, Brary. Barry Keoghan shares a rare photo with his son, Brando, amid Sabrina Carpenter breakup rumors. So a lot going on in the Sabrina sphere. First of all, her album comes out this week, short and sweet. So cute. I'm so excited for Sabrina. Agreed. Then also it was like came out yesterday that her and Barry have like an on-off again relationship. Like it's not solid as a rock. Well, it came out that they were broken up and then it was like, no, they're actually just like always like breaking up. Right. So I think right now they're like in and off.

Um, okay. This is a relationship that like, I'm happy to cheer for. You won't find me crying when it ends. Cause I didn't see Saul burn. So like to end to me, like Sabrina, like stream skim, like I, I would love to see her with the sack. Well, okay. So here's the thing. Like I champion Sabrina.

right like i'm a fan of sabrina if sabrina's happy i'm happy and i love that she was dating barry like at the height of saltburn right like barry kyogan was the name on everybody's lips for a brief period and like that's when she was dating him i do feel like some of like the saltburn hype has like worn off and now she needs to date someone like a little bit more relevant i agree like now she's keeping him afloat by putting him in her music videos right right who is somebody everybody's talking about right now besides justin baldone and zach efron like for me it's zach no i know but who's like having a moment right now let's go to the list

No, he's not going to be on the list of person I'm thinking of. Like what's a TV show? Like, uh, Freddie, she needs to date Freddie Glenn Powell.

Well, Glenn Powell actually just went to a Tate McRae concert. You know, they like hang out a lot and I feel like they're cute. Even though who she did. Oh, she's dating someone. She's dating someone. Jeremy Allen White, who is Barry Keoghan. Oh my God. Wait, Jeremy Allen White and Sabrina Carpenter. Like that is what dreams are made of. Knowing she like wouldn't even have to change anything. She like, it's the same person. Probably have the same size clothes. Like she could just like. There's like a Barry Keoghan sized hole in her bed and Jeremy Allen White fits perfectly. Yeah. Yeah.

He just has like a little bit more hair. Yeah. I also didn't know that Jeremy Allen. And he's in a series, not a movie. So it's like continuing fame. Wait, they're literally the same person. Cause I didn't know Barry Keoghan like had kids. And if I did, like, I just like didn't care. So does Jeremy Allen, his daughter. And Barry has a two year old. So like, that's like a little, like little. Yeah. What does that mean? I don't know. Like that he was recently like in a serious relationship. He's got a lot going on. I think if you were to look deeply at his like,

previous relationship timeline, like it wouldn't be favorable. Yeah. Like, I don't know if it cues him up for, for Sabrina to be like the one. And now it makes more sense, like on and off. And I'm sure like he, and his time is not his own with a two year old. Correct. And maybe that, maybe the two year old drove a wedge between him and Sabrina. Yeah.

As it should. Not to blame her. Him. Brando. Cute name. And he's so cute. But like as it should. Because like you can't be like with your girlfriend who's taking over the world. All the time. And you can't go with her to take over the world. But like you have a two year old. Yeah. Yeah. No it's true. And you want to be present. I just want to say like I personally like now I'm just so championing him and Jeremy Allen. Her and Jeremy Allen White. Like you can't see anything else. I can't see anything else. Although he was connected to Rosalita. Rosalita. Jump a little higher. Yeah.

I don't know if that's still a thing. I think it might be. Cause like they really, I think bonded over their love of cigarettes. Like they really did. Oh, well, Sabrina smokes. Sabrina could smoke. Yeah. If she wanted to, I could see Sabrina vaping. I don't know if Sabrina smokes. So I shouldn't have said Sabrina smokes, but like anybody could pick up a cigarette and start smoking. Right. Like you're not special. Right.

because you smoke. I actually think that if Sabrina smoked, she would smoke cigarettes because she's all like vintage-y. It's true. I think that like e-cigs are like too modern for her aesthetic. When you're a singer, it's like tough to smoke. And every now and then I'll like find out that like someone smokes and it really shocks me. No, but it's like- Lady Gaga. It makes your voice kind of gargy. Well, it depends what your aesthetic is. I think Lady Gaga, like the rasp behooves the music. Sabrina's very like vocally feathered.

Yeah, like Ari can't be chain smoking. No, no. Lady Gaga can chain smoke. Harry Styles, I think, smokes. And I think it works. And of course, like Amy Winehouse smoked. And I think, you know, her voice was. Yep. Better off. Yeah. It would have been gargy anyway, but it was like the vibe. It was the vibe. It's not Sabrina's vibe. It's like Sabrina's aesthetic vibe, perhaps, perchance. But not audio. No. Audibly. I feel like she really has to preserve her voice.

I feel like Barry Keoghan probably smoked. 1000%. Yeah. You can always tell like when an actor or actress smokes, like, because if they have to do it in like, like his, he smoked, I think in her music video and it was like so natural, but sometimes you see him like you definitely don't smoke. Yeah. Like you're not like doing the vibe, right? Or you're just like a weenie.

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High profile campaigns and it girls. Kim has tapped Charlie XCX to star in her new shapewear brand in her shapewear brand's latest campaign, which sees the singer and internet darling pose in the brand's new cotton ribbon, cotton fleece styles. So I feel like when, whenever anyone's having a moment, like skims does such a good job of grabbing them in a timely manner. Like you turn this stuff around because you never know who's going to go viral. You know, like I, the most impressive is when they have those white Lotus girls, like they were literally famous for a week and Kim got them on Tuesday. Like it was really brilliant. Um,

And I think this also cements Charli because Charli very much like operated. She's having a moment, but like it really started small and like really within the gay community. And I think she really like has this summer blown up. Obviously, Brad Summer, her music is everywhere, like for everyone. And I think like, you know, getting a Skims campaign is really kind of like the last big thing before it's like cemented. So I think this is a big deal. Now, obviously,

I can't help but make this about Taylor. You know, it's like, it's, you know, Skims and Charlie is big for everyone. But like, to me, it's like, oh, it's I hate Taylor club.

yeah but it's usually like skims is like the i love taylor club these days and it's so true it's very confusing for me to understand how that happens so like i like this because it makes sense it's so true one plus one is equaling two yeah not like sock and and are there people feeling here and then they had to ask and then the sabrina when she mentioned that she talked to taylor about skims like people can't get over that that was the headline and then she addressed that headline when she did varieties cover and then her addressing it became the next headline like

It's a lot and it makes me feel weird that Sabrina might be feeling pulled into different directions. And it happens to Lana Del Rey and it's confusing because when my best friend has a mortal enemy, they are my enemy. I take on that enemy for myself. I'm certainly not going to be working with them and promoting them. I'm going to be with my best friend. No, no. It was definitely confusing at that time and I think it's recently got even more confusing. So this makes a lot of sense. I like this because...

It follows like a very linear trajectory. Yeah. And it makes sense. Like Charlie, it's Charlie August. There were sure. Right. And there was like no sort of hesitations for Charlie to be like, Oh, should I do this? No, there are actually even more reasons why I should. Oh, they'll just like add her to the list of people who have opened for Taylor Swift and also started in skims campaigns. Like who, who,

Like all the other ones who are still, she's on a separate list of people who have opened for Taylor Swift to no longer speak to tailored that and who actively beef with tailored. Yeah. That to me is, I think she has denied that there's any sort of beef, but like for me, I can't be convinced if they're not like congratulating each other on their new music, then there's beef. Yeah. There just is.

Where is Camilla and Taylor? Where is Camilla Cabello and Taylor? Like, I don't think that they have beef at all, but there was a point where they were so up each other's asses, like publicly, privately hanging out, double dates, like everything. They have not been spotted together in a really long time. And, you know, Camilla also just doesn't like do spotting anymore. Like she's low key and she's between albums. So she's just living off the grid. She's like not between albums. She's like actively on the grid, like releasing new stuff, making TikToks with anyone who will make a TikTok with her. Like she's

actively in her thirsty era the era you're referring to like did and like two months ago yeah like it and it was a long time um so at first I was like well Camila Cabello hasn't been spotted with anyone so like the tailor of it all isn't weird but it's weird like I'm officially you know confused yeah so congrats to Charlie and Skims on the great photos and collaboration like a no-brainer for everyone involved yeah yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story

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I think the apple's rotten right to shiny. They're dull and you're shiny. Okay, I'm ready for the fifth and final now that I have my lipstick on. Fifth and final is about one of my favorite girls making news. Julianne Hough is on a press tour for her book and she's actually making a lot of news. But one thing. Good for her because seriously no one was talking about her book and now they are. Well, I follow her on Instagram so like I've been knowing about her book and it's a fiction book so it's different. It's not like we can get teasers of like her life story. Right.

you don't want to spoil the fiction book. So anyways, she has her new book coming out and she went on Watch What Happens Live and she was asked a question. A good question. I want to say, we always are talking about how like Andy gets a good gossip from people and he does ask really good questions, but really the audience interaction, because they have people like zoom in, those people like are so fucking shady. They ask the craziest questions. When they can like stop talking for a second and get to the question. Hi Andy, I love you. I love you so much. I got your book.

And you just know Andy like hates these people. He's like, thanks so much. What's your question? I feel like I hate it so much because I know how angry it makes Andy and how it like sets him off and ruins the show. Yeah. And he only likes it. And he's so worried about the time of his show. No, he's only, he only likes when people compliment him when he's actively promoting something. Like when he promotes his books, he does like a four month promotion on Watch Happens Live. Like it's brought up every single episode. And when people are like, Andy, we love you. We love your book. And he's like, hold it up. Thanks.

That's the only time he likes it. And when he's not, he's like, shut up. No, seriously. Like he doesn't give the guests one minute to even answer a question. He hates that zoom part because people always, people take advantage of it because it's their 15 seconds. Every time they have their quarterly watch what happens live meeting, like he tries to get them to stop doing that. And,

And they're like, no, Andy, like it's good for the show. And I think Watch What Happens Live started as like a fan engagement show. And like so much of that has been taken away. And like, I think that the Zoom is a core tenant of the show. And Andy's like, oh, fine. Yeah, no, no, no. And I'm surprised at this point they haven't just done prerecorded people where they cut out. Everyone's like, Andy, I love you so much. I've been watching your house always forever. And they just cut that out and say, my question's for Kim. Right, right.

But it is live most of the time. So Carter V wants to know if there's any, if there's ever been a Dancing with the Stars winner that you've strongly disagreed with, Andy asked. Which is such a great question because the lore around like who gets cast on Dancing with the Stars, who ends up winning Dancing with the Stars is like highly controversial. And anyone involved like between the judges or the pros, they never talk about it. Very subjective. Yeah. So-

she said, um, and she, uh, Mickey Guyton reached over and tapped her on the arm while clearing her throat. And then Julianne said, I think she has an answer for that about Mickey Guyton, who was the other guest. Hold on. And then, um, Andy asked Mickey who she said, and Mickey replied, I just said Bobby Bones. Oh,

Oh. And then Julianne said, I actually agree with you. She said, and I think it's because of the fan base. It's all about fan base on that show. He was not the best dancer. Right. I just want to say like. Mickey Guyton hates Bobby Bones. That's really crazy. I have so many things to say. And like, as a fan of Bobby Bones, I don't appreciate the slander. Right. And why did it have to be Bobby? Although I do want to say, because I remember when I wasn't watching the show, but I remember when he won, how it was like the audience was in a tantrum.

Yeah. So that was like not a crazy one to say because yes, objectively he might've not been the best answer, but if it was just about the best answer, they wouldn't have fan voting. Yep. So that's what it is. I appreciate Julianne for giving an answer because these days people wouldn't give an answer. Maybe. And then I have to appreciate Mickey Guyton for like pushing her to give her an answer and supplying her with one that like seems to be the right answer. And that a lot of people will understand, but like Mickey Guyton is like an upcoming country radio star, like saying that, um,

is kind of crazy no okay so if you don't know who mickey guyton is she's like a i wouldn't even say she's small she's like really having a moment but she's new to the country music scene she's like big in country and like she gets a lot of work within country music like for cma cmt and that's so bobby bones right like he hosts all this stuff if you don't know bobby bones he's the host of um like the biggest country music series xm radio show and i guess he went on dancing with the stars and he won so for her to answer a question that wasn't asked to her

And give an answer. Nobody, nobody, Mickey Guyton throwing Bobby Bones in front of us. Giving the answer as, you know, someone who's really powerful in country music. I feel like she hates him. Like they have, they have beef. 100%. And then they like high fives after for agreeing with each other, but also acknowledge that he was great on Dancing with the Stars. Damn. That's really crazy. Actually. It is kind of crazy. She hates him. Yeah. She doesn't like him.

Julianne, I think, was trying to be diplomatic. It's not a controversial answer. I think if you asked any Dancing with the Stars lifelong fan, they would say the season that made the least sense in terms of winter. It's a general consensus of the fans. But if Mickey Guyton hadn't tossed it to her, I don't know if she would have answered that.

She might have not been able to like drum up an answer in time anyway. But it makes sense. Like you have this huge audience. You're filming a show. Like you literally go on your radio show to millions of people and say, like, vote for me. Yeah. No. And everyone's running commercials. Like dancing.

with the stars like you would hope that everyone has a big audience that they can tap into they're supposed to yeah and it's not always just audience because the biggest people don't always win it's not it's not confirmed it has to be a mix of both yeah like decent scores and a big audience right right so maybe that's but like if you really don't like the fan vote part of it then that shouldn't be a part of it but I also do like that it shows that the fan vote's

actually matter and it's not like curated and we just like toss your votes into a bin and he must have had so many more votes than who he was up against like unignorable amounts yeah did charlie d'amelio win dancing with the stars because literally how could she not right she's a professional dancer with a huge audience with a hundred million followers yeah that's a good question um

Yeah. Like if I were on her season, I just like would have stopped trying. I was seeing like people are campaigning. They want Jordan Childs to be on Dancing with the Stars. And it's like, I love her, but it really brings back to the thing we talk about at least once a year. Like, I don't understand how that's fair, how you're going to have seriously Jordan Childs up against like,

A 300 pound footballer. Yeah. Right. Or like a 300 pound footballer who seriously like doesn't know his right foot from his left because he seriously just like runs for a living instead of dances. But at least Jordan Childs like is a trained gymnast. It's different than like when it's Heather Morris and seriously, Charlie D'Amelio. Charlie D'Amelio was literally the greatest dancer. Yeah. Like seriously. It's so crazy. But I don't think it's fair that Jordan Childs should be precluded from something that is like

The next thing in her career, like she deserves to be part of it. It's never going to be totally even when you have people of all ages, of all genders, like it's never going to be totally fair. And like, I can accept that about dancing with the stars. I don't look for fairness. Like that's not where I get my dose of fairness. Yes. So true. So true.

Julianne said what she said. Mickey said what she said. Let's see what happens. Yeah. Let's see if they stop playing Mickey Guyton on the radio. Let's see. Because country music is so old school. The way you get- No, that's how it works. The way you get popular and your songs out there, it's like you have to kiss the ass of country radio hosts. Radio plays such a big part in the success of a country music artist. There are probably singers you've never heard of who get played all the time and are making so much money. It's really this- But you could still-

could still like it's still 2024 so like people can still get big on the internet like zach bryan yes um a lot of like smaller artists can come up that way but like there is still the traditional trajectory and i think that's the thing for pop music too like there's still industry plans who are planted yeah yeah but country's just like country really it's a small world like there's a few key players and like it's just little it was brave it's brave to to call one of them out by their name

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