Big 'Big Katy' News: Wednesday, September 4th, 2024
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Good morning, Millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. That really feels like a Tuesday, but it's a Wednesday because we should be adapting the four-day work week here in America. That's my takeaway. End of episode. Hey, Jax. How you doing? How you doing? I'm doing good, except, you know, when you're, like, sleeping and you're trying to orient yourself to, like, where am I? What day is it? What time is it? I oriented myself to Thursday. So I'm already, like... She's got to get on Orient Express. No, so, like...

I'm missing the greatness of this week. Like it should have felt short and now it feels long because I oriented myself improperly. Oh, you're just like so toxic because let's not go there. Let's not ruin a perfectly good thing. No, we won't. It's Wednesday. And you know, I wasn't ready for it to be Thursday because this week has so much to offer. There's so much we're going to do this week. And I just, I want more of this week. There's so much gargi-parginess to admire.

There's so much gargi-pargi energy this week. I would be sad if it was almost over, honestly. I'm really enjoying this week. It's kind of been like a top-notch week. I mean, it's been literally one day. Calm down.

However, I agree with you. And I want to say, and I know I say this every time there's some sort of federal or bank holiday. The four-day work week is so unbelievable. I'm so productive. Every day is like filled to the brim with gargi-pargi productivity. Gargi-pargi production. Production. By the way, literally trademark it now. Yeah.

It just, it makes me sick that this is not my, like, I mean, we're two days in a row, like some of the best moods we've ever been in. It's because of the four day work week. My God, if people just got their fucking act together. Now I know what you're going to say. If it was a four day work week every week, then you wouldn't be that productive because you just get into the same routine you are in now with the five day working. Like, please shut up. I know what you're going to say. Yeah. Tuesdays would come to feel like Mondays. No, they wouldn't.

understand what you're saying and we wouldn't appreciate the four-day work week like we do would be like clamoring for a three-day like shut up and go to work no I know I think you know what it really should be oh my god because in order to every other week no in once a month no let me fucking talk

In order to appreciate the four-day work week, right, you need to have lived through the five-day work week. I think, you know, there's like a retirement age at 65. There needs to be like a reduction age. You go from the five-day to the four-day at like 35. No, is that halfway? But then that would result in ageism because then people wouldn't want to hire the people who are only working four days a week. They wouldn't want to hire the five days. But here's the thing. You have to still get the same amount of work done in those four days. Like your responsibilities remain the same. Yeah. Yeah.

I just think it's something to think about. Like, I know we think it can't be done, but like, you know, during COVID on a whim, everybody went to working at home. Like if we wanted it bad enough, it could happen. - If we wanted to, we would. I just feel like complaining about five days and yearning for four days as a core tenant, like of this show. - 100%. - What would we talk about? - That's a really good question. We'd have to kind of, we'd have to seriously go on hiatus, like restrategize our entire content strategy.

Yeah, like the days of the week are so integral to the tone of the show every day. And if they were rejiggered,

perhaps we might be rejiggered. Would that be so bad? I could use a good rejiggering. It depends how the jiggering fell. We'd have to just let the chips fall where they may. Now, I wanted to say something that I saw on Twitter today that I feel like you wouldn't have wanted to make a story, but it really put into perspective for me, like I'm seriously old, you know? Okay. What did it? You know, um...

Jacob Sartorius. Oh my God. Throwback to my mortal enemy, Jacob Sartorius. I forgot about him. I hope he's doing well. No. You know what? As a kid, like, I don't know. I know I was like big into Nick at Night. Yeah. And like, what were the shows that we were watching? The Nanny and...

George Lopez. The one. George Lopez. I wasn't watching. I was always watching George Lopez against my will. But, you know, I'd watch two episodes of The Nanny and then go to sleep and then wake up to da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And apparently, like, they've updated their programming for the next gen. Like, do you know what their The Nanny is going to be? And The Nanny was like an old show that they brought back for kids at Nick at Night. The old show is Modern Family. Yeah.

That's what kids are going to be watching before they go to bed. That's like the reruns. I just want to say, yes, Feeling Old, because that was a contemporary show for us. Isn't that the hot new thing? It just ended. However, I'm glad to know that that's what the kids will have to comfort them as they go to sleep at night, because it's such a good show for so many different reasons. So I agree with you on both counts. It also...

I feel like we don't talk about, like, do you remember a time when Modern Family just aired? And like, seriously, the way people were talking about it, like, it really was a cultural shift. It was. Now it's just like one of those sitcoms. But at the time, it was a cultural shift because it was a sitcom that was like actually funny. Yeah. No, and it had a lot going on. So many layers. So many layers. So inclusive. I think everybody saw themselves in someone. Yeah. It was really a fabulous show. I never like watched it fully, but I'm happy that the kids, maybe I'll watch it at Nick at Night now.

In college, Dana and Sam were like obsessed with Modern Family and they were roommates all four years and like they would never miss an episode. Like it was their thing. Oh, that's cute. They were always just like watching Modern Family. So I do feel quite connected to Modern Family through osmosis. No, and I watch it like when it's on. It's seriously hilarious. Yeah. I feel like maybe I should do like a full rewatch. That's a good rewatch show. It is, except I find Mitchell, the redheaded gay brother, like I find him so insufferably annoying. Like so much so, sometimes I'm watching it, I have to turn it off when he comes on.

Well, every show has to have an insufferable, annoying character in order for you to appreciate the other ones. Susan Meyer, Carrie Bradshaw. Serena Vanderwoodson. Serena Vanderwoodson. We've got a great show today. The stories are actually really good. We also have beer toasters. We weren't just like spitballing back and forth so many stories so little time. I crammed six into the five structure.

Could have been seven. And today's really exciting because as paid endorsers of Big Katie, there's a Big Katie Perry story that I seriously am dying to talk about. Ever since I saw this clip, I have not thought about anything but. I said to Jackie last night, seriously, Big Katie is making it hard to continue advocating for Big Katie. That's what I'll say. So they better keep paying us the big bucks, which they're not. Which they're not.

If they were paying us, I would have something nice to say today if they were paying us a lot. It would have to be a lot. But I have nothing nice to say. No, and I have actually something really crazy to say that I'll say when we get to, it's the third story. When we get to BKS, the Big Katie story. Right, when we get to the sponsored story. You look cute today. What's the,

Thank you so much. Just swirling into fall. Oh my God. It's a little hot today. It's kind of ruining like the vibe I've sort of seen. Like I've created this future for myself and it's fall, but it's actually not. It's still fully summer and it's hot as fuck today. Yeah. My AC on my house is like getting fixed up. So it's like patchy in some rooms I'm freezing in this room. I'm warm. But I was going to say, what is the word for like, not when you're not sponsored by something, it's like the opposite where like you are paid to do damage to the brand. A hit piece.

I don't know because remember like during the Jersey Shore days, I like once read that designer brands were sending their competitors bags to like Snooki and to like wear drunk on the beach, like make the competitors bags look bad. That's really funny. I don't know if there's a name for it, but that's a brilliant strategy. Although mean because seriously, like nobody had more influence on me as a child than Nicole Snooki Palizzi. Like, and I was actually thinking yesterday when I'm done with Desperate Housewives, I do feel like my biological clock is ticking. I have to rewatch Jersey Shore again.

- Oh, that's a good one. - And by the way, you should maybe do that too. I feel like Zach has never seen it and he would love it. - Oh yeah, I mean we still have watched only those two episodes of Desperate Housewives, so I'll catch you in a chair. - Oh, we watched like 11 episodes last night. Like seriously, we can't stop. - Damn. I don't know, the night's been getting away from me. It's just getting like so late, so fast. And I gave myself a bit of a spray tan last night, so I had to let it set, and then shower, and I had a loaf in the oven, so I just had a busy night. - It's a nightly affair. - I had a busy night. Do I look tan? - Yeah. - You can't really see me. - Oh yeah, yeah, you do.

Thank you. You look gargy. Yeah. Yeah, because it's like I'm wearing shorts down here. So and I was spray tanned all summer and it was it was so gargy. I want to keep up that energy. I'm like still really tan like from the sun, which is so unparalleled. I love spray tanning. You're never going to catch me saying a bad word about it. But like

the rubbing off onto clothes, sheets, towels, the maintenance, the scrubbing on, scrubbing off. Like it is a full-time job. - The maintenance, yeah. - Let me tell you, having like a suntan, I know it's so bad for you, please don't start with me.

Is so inspired. Like I can't really explain to you what it makes me want to do. You know? The confidence. I wouldn't know. I know. You don't lay out in the sun. You don't have the skin tone for it. And I've never like gotten a tan that's lasted. Like I'll get a sunburn that could turn into a tan. But it's only like two good days max. Yeah. And if I wear sunscreen or you know tan. Like any SPF. I just get nothing. So it's not like I really get tan. And so why am I laying out there in sunscreen for nothing? No I know. I just...

I don't want to brag, but I can tell you like it's there's no greater feeling. Think about how you feel with like a perfect spray tan. It's like it's like double that. It's double the fun. That's nice. Yeah, I guess you can't miss what you've never had. So for me, I'm like, OK, I'll take your word for it. I'll take your word for it.

We have a lot to do today, so I don't want to rush at all, dilly dally, but I just want you to be mindful of the clock. Anything else you want to chit chat about in the Prefaz 5 banter before we dive in? No, I'm actually more looking forward to the stories today than any banter that I would band with my sister. I know, I feel the same. And also, banter will be immersed throughout. I mean, we just sort of sprinkle the banter throughout, yeah. Yeah, a sprinkle of banter. So, I mean, I'm down...

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Our first story, the annual long-awaited news of the Dancing with the Stars cast. There are two stories today that are like annual cornerstones we have to talk about every single year. Yes, and I enjoy them because I do think they're a sign of the times. It shows us where we're at as a society. And here is who are Dancing with the Stars this year. I want to say, I don't know if we've remarked on it, but I feel like in the past, Dancing with the Stars...

Has always been like a popular show, but it's been considered lowbrow, right? Like you're either on your way up in this world or you're on your way down. And Dancing with the Stars is a stop on that expressway. I feel like in recent years, especially with them being on streaming, which is just like cooler and younger and hipper, I do feel like it has less of a stigma and more people who you never would have considered to be on it are on it.

But who from this list? I was really shocked to see Danny Amendola and Dwight Howard. Like those are two premium ass athletes. Not like people you've never heard of. Like I don't really follow basketball. And I was recently I didn't really follow football. And these are two people whose names I had heard of. I was surprised to see Dwight Howard. I do agree he falls into that box. When I saw Danny Amendola, it didn't make me think like better of Dancing with the Stars. It just like made me think worse of him. Brooke Snader. I was like, no, she's someone who doesn't need Dancing with the Stars, you know?

So here's who's going to be on it. And then we can assess the class of season 33. Real Houses of Atlanta star Phaedra Parks. Classic. Classic queen. Tori Spelling. I'm shocked she hasn't done it before. I'm shocked she hasn't done it before. That's the shocking part. 33 seasons and this is her first one. And I just, I think I'm excluding Tori Spelling from what I just said before about them leveling up. Like, just please leave me alone. That's usual. It's the shocking part is that she hasn't done it before.

This is a surprising one. Eric Roberts, who's an Academy Award nominee and brother of Julia Roberts. And father of Emma? Brother? Yes. Hold on. Emma Roberts' dad. That's a good call. And maybe, you know, they love to have people. Eric Roberts. Yes. Yes.

Okay, they should have led with that. That was just me like surmising. First of all, he looks just like Emma. Second of all, you know, they love to have people's friends and family come and then like they do a whole story. Like she's going to go, right? A hundred percent. She's going to love it. I'm sure she watches. Unless they're on like bad terms, which I don't know. They're def not. Then Anna Delvey. By the way, I don't know if it was...

Anna herself. But, you know, we had that clip on TikTok about Anna Delvey, like who is, that she's an industry plant. Okay. And like a verified account, like the Delvey files, like liked it and favorited it and like saved it. That's so funny. Yeah. She is an industry plant. Like seriously, who is going to vote for Anna Delvey? She better be dancing her tail off. Yeah.

No, that's such a good point. It's a fan voted show. Who is voting for Anna Delvey? Like seriously, just that freak who worked at the hotel and she's probably going to be calling like every 35 seconds, like voting as many times as she can every week for Anna Delvey from her phone, her computer, her tablet, and then everyone else who works at the hotel's tablets too. Yeah, because she's the one who like planted the story, who like is obsessed with Anna Delvey being in the public sphere. She is going to go to the hotel and go to every single room and use like all the tablets in every room to vote 10 times every week.

Yeah. That's it. That's it. So she better be a good dancer because I really just don't see the fan votes rolling in for her. Such a good point. Then NBA champion Dwight Howard. Shocking. I agree. I agree. Danny Amendola. Shocking. Do you think he's still dating Zandra? Like I really was, I was so into that and then I never like. I think if he was yesterday, he's not today because I don't think Zandra is dating Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, yeah. It's true. It's true. Like.

What's his name? Braxton whenever. Braxton whenever, yeah. It's true. Brooke Snader, Sports Illustrated swimsuit model. Shocking. Like cover star to Dancing with the Stars. I'm telling you, Dancing with the Stars is on the up. I don't know. I see it as a useful step for her. Mainstream. She's very digital. Because she has a lot of Instagram success and that whole world knows her. But let's get her on TV in front of America. I agree. Better start dancing hard. Yeah, right.

Then Ilona Mar, like a perfect, perfect. That is, that's a huge get for Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, but they also have Pommel Horse Steve. Love, love. But Ilona Mar is like seriously a national treasure. And I just want to say, not to make everything about me, but I want to go find the episode. It wasn't what, three years ago when the last Olympics were because of COVID, right? They like moved it up.

- Where I was on this, like I was talking about "Alone and Bahr" before everyone else was. Like sorry, I followed her for years. - Classic Charity. - Just welcome, yeah welcome to the club. We've all been here.

Then also Joey from The Bachelor. - Grazie, who said that Venice has this old school vibe? - Claudia, it was Athens. - Right, even older. - Which is like the old, or it was a city in Greece, like the oldest city in the world had an old school vibe. - He was so great about that. - He has a special place in my heart. I don't know him, but I like him. - I agree. - Do you know what I mean? I got good vibes. - Agreed. - Then also what I find surprising is Jen Tran, who was just The Bachelorette, is also competing. Have we ever had a season

Where it's two Bachelor contestants and I think she was on his season. No, I mean, what is this? The love spark. What does this make you think of? I don't know. Caitlin Bristow. To me, like one of the craziest things ever. It was like back in the heyday of The Bachelor when Caitlin, before she was The Bachelorette. Oh no, after she was The Bachelorette. Like her dream. She was a dancer. Professional dancer, yeah. Before her reality star career. And like all she wanted to do was be on The Bachelorette.

Dancing with the Stars and the creator of the show was like, no, we're not allowed to, like no one's allowed. She like begged, begged, begged. And then like all these other people went on and then years later they finally went on. - No, but also previously that like it was a logical pipeline is ABC, Bachelor to Dancing with the Stars and only for Caitlin was it like, oh no, we don't wanna encourage that 'cause we don't want people coming on the show for fame. Only for Caitlin who's like dream it was to be on Dancing with the Stars. - No, and now there's two leads in one season. - Yeah, but also Mike Fleiss isn't like in the show anymore. - A part of, yeah.

No, but I just think it's interesting. Cause like, what if they fall back in love with each other on the ballroom dance floor? Cause I just saw a batch of Jen Tran, her season ended and she's already not with her mans. He like called her on the phone. Oh, spoiler alert. It was on after the final rose. He like broke up with her in 15 minutes and then started following Maria from her season. Yikes. Yikes. That sounds good.

It did. I was like reading it. I'm like tea. Oh my God. And of course, it's no surprise. Jeremy Simon, our cousin, our long lost cousin did not win, but he was accused of going clubbing with Jeremy Simon like right after he broke up with Jen. By the way, that doesn't make Jeremy look bad. Jeremy's single. He's allowed to do whatever he wants. For sure. No, we need to find Jeremy a nice girl. We do. It's not going to be at the clubs. No, it's not Jeremy. Go to synagogue.

Go to synagogue or Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor. Or Ariel Frankel from The Bachelor. Like that's something I need to happen. I hope they've gone out, got to know each other. Should we see if they follow each other? Yes. Also, I have no idea what he looks like. I imagine he's attractive because like everyone on the show is, but is he attractive enough? Also like Ariel Frankel might have like a boyfriend. She might. Oh, she follows Jeremy. Does he follow her? I'm checking, I'm checking. Yes, yes. He does.

And he's super cute. So very handsome. Let's get together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm obsessed. Maybe they'll save it for paradise. If the two of them go on paradise, I vow to you. I will watch. Oh, okay. Because what a shit off. What a shit off. Oh my God. Okay. Look back to. Oh yeah. Dancing with the stars. Dancing with the stars.

Someone from Pretty Little Liars Summer School named Chandler Kinney. Don't know her. But you know that's like the Gen Z. Oh, I thought it was going to be a boy, Chandler. It's a neutral name. It is, it is. Oh, no, but it's a girl. Oh, I just fully guessed. I guess Pretty Little Liars is a show about girls. About pretty little girls. Little girl. Then Reginald Bell Johnson from Family Matters.

Okay, I feel like they're missing like a influencer. They always have like a TikToker Gen Z. Now, Brooke Snader is an influencer, but she's not Gen Z. Like I'm thinking like Charli D'Amelio. They had Nash Greer. You know, every year they have like a musically. They don't have their resident TikToker. That's bizarre, no?

I mean, it probably was a tight season because of the Olympics. And then they have like two ABC plants in Bachelor and Bachelorette. Like spots are filling up. There also isn't like an obvious winner when it comes to dancing, right? Like we're always talking about Laurie Hernandez, Heather from Glee, like people who are trained dancers, people who have like so much background in performing. I don't see anyone with that. Who do you think will win? Just take like, let's just make a bet. Run it back. Tell me again. Okay, Phaedra.

Tori Spelling, Eric Roberts, Anna Delvey, Dwight Howard, Danny Amendola, Brooks Nader, Alona Mar, Joey from The Bachelor, Chandler Kinney,

Reginald Val Johnson, Jen Tran. Elona Mar. Because, and there's really not like a super obvious choice, but one, she already has like the athletic ability. I think that's like really hard for people in the first couple of weeks is going from living a regular life. Like maybe you work out, maybe you don't, but every single day, all day, every day doing really, really hard routines. She has that. She plays rugby. Two,

She has so many fans. She has followers on every platform. She has people who will seriously spend all day calling in for her. So I, with this, we'll check back in, in a couple of months, but I'm saying Alona Mar. I'm voting Dwight Howard. They don't want to lose him. And I feel like it's been a while since we've had like the athlete win, like the male athlete. And that's always like very, like they usually. Iman Shumpert. When did he win? Did he win? Yeah. When was that? I don't know. Two, three years ago. Like not crazy.

Let's see. And the fact that Iman Shumpert went on Dancing with the Stars. Was crazy. Makes sense that then Dwight Howard. Like it's not that incongruous, I guess. 2021? Three years. Okay. So it can be done. I'm going Dwight Howard. It can be done. Yeah. But I don't know if Dwight Howard like seriously has any fans. Like who would call? If Dwight Howard has no fans. No, who would like call up? Again, they're fans of his basketball, but those people are not watching. Yeah.

Like Yvonne Shumpert, like his wife, Tiana Taylor, like they have like fans. Okay. Just saying. Okay, well. But it also matters. White-hound fans, make yourselves known. It matters who your partner is because those partners have fans too. Yes, yes, it's true. Are you ready for our next story?

- Is it a woman's world? No, it's not. - No, it's not. It's some more annual news. People's sexiest man alive. The polls are now open and we're getting categories, we're getting nominees and we're getting good guys.

We're getting good guys. So they have opened voting for People's Sexiest Man Alive and all the subcategories that entails. And by the way, just like that Modern Family thing made you feel old, this is making me feel old for, I don't know these people who are nominated. Like 2024 Sexiest Heartthrob nominees. Gavin Casalegno, who I think is from Summer I Turned Pretty. Jeremiah, yeah. Yeah.

Nicholas Gals, a teen from our favorite show. Yeah, and he's... And The Idea of You. The Idea of You and The Stars Show. And he's in Red, White, and Royal Blue, no? That's where like... Oh, yeah, but I didn't watch it. But like people are obsessed. He's a good nominee. I actually think I'll... Oh, and then Manny Jacinto, who I don't know, and Jacob Elordi.

Kind of like a tight race. Who should I vote for? Although I do want to say, I don't think Jacob Elordi is the sexiest man this year. Like I feel like he didn't even work this year, you know? So should I vote for Nicholas Galzatine? I'm going to vote with you. I'm going to vote with you. Okay. This is fun. How do I vote? It's at the bottom of the page and it's like a slideshow. They'd love to do a slideshow. Yeah. Yeah.

I voted for Nicholas. Okay, seriously, not to be like dumb and slow. Do you want me to text it to you? Can you email it to me? I'm on my iPad. Yes, actually, that's much easier. Which email? With a C? Any of them. No, yeah, with a C. Oh, no, with a J. J is on this one. Oh, whoa, whoa. Like, why is it not coming up as the first result? Oh, maybe because I searched people, Sakaiist coat. Vote. Vote.

People's Sakai's coat. Oh, I got it. Okay, good. Because I like my iPad is so heartthrob. I'm going to go Nicholas Galitzine.

Okay. Then sexiest musician, Harry Styles, role model. I don't know who that is. I've never heard of that. I have only heard of that because that dated Emma Chamberlain for a while. That dated. I'm surprised Lil Mosey's not on here. Totally. That person was little role model, little role model, was also on Therapist. That's how I keep up with the young kids on that podcast. So I'm not familiar with the music. And Zach Bryan and Shaboozy. Now you know I'm voting for Shaboozy. I'm voting for Harry Styles.

I just feel like Harry Styles is like Jacob Elordi, like you weren't here this year. Sorry. I completely agree. And to be honest, I feel like it should be Zach Bryan. It was his year. But from a physical perspective, he's not my type. Like Harry Styles is my type. Okay. Who's the sexiest summer action star? Ryan Gosling in Fall Guy, Ryan Reynolds, Glenn Powell, or Hugh Jackman? Glenn Powell. Duh.

Who was the sexiest new dad? This is really inappropriate. Like, I'm sorry. This is someone's father, but it is Maluma, Robert Pattinson, Cole Tucker, who's Vanessa Hudgens, his man and Justin Bieber. I'm going Robert Pattinson. Of course I'm going Robert Pattinson.

Who is the sexiest long married star? 25 plus years. I just want to say, these categories get dumber and dumber. This is a great category because you know what's sexy? Loyalty. Fidelity. Yeah. Commitment. Yeah. We have Denzel Washington, Kevin Bacon, Ted Danson, and Tim McGraw. Oh my God. The truckers. I think that was truckers for Tim outside. I'm going Denzel. Oh. Yeah. Jinx.

Jinx. Who's the sexiest TV host? Mark Consuelos, Jimmy Fallon, Seth Meyers, or Mario Lopez? Mario Lopez. By the way, Mario Lopez. I was about to skip this category until I saw him. I was about to say, like, as you were reading them, I hate all these people. But then I wouldn't include Mario Lopez in that. And let me say something. Ben is friends with Mario Lopez. He is seriously the nicest guy on the planet. Like, what you think he is on TV, he's exactly like that in person. He gets my vote.

This next category is why this is a story today because they have a category called sexiest podcast host. And the nominees are TJ Holmes, Penn Badgley, the Kelsey brothers and Josh Peck from the good guys. Now, of course we're voting for Josh Peck and I really encourage you all to go do that.

- I think the fact that they put TJ Holmes in here is disgraceful. Not that he's not good looking. Like seriously, you're not a pod, being a podcaster for three months doesn't make you a podcaster, okay? - No, this category, I don't feel like, aside from Josh and the Kelsey brothers, honestly, like I don't feel like the other two are the sexiest men in podcasting or even like up for it.

I disagree. Pen Badgley's an actor. No, Pen Badgley these days, like his podcast is so big. I actually think this category is well done besides for TJ Holmes, but I'm voting for Josh, obviously. I feel like they went out of their way to like not include the actual big male podcasters. Yeah, like where's Jason Bateman? Will Arnett should have been here. Theo Vaughn. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Will Arnett. That's a good one. I'm voting for Josh Peck. Of course. Please go vote for Josh. That'd be so cool for the good guys.

That would be so cool for the good guys. Do they know about this, by the way? Oh my God. So I didn't know if Josh knew, but I texted him last night in our chat with Ben because somebody DM'd it to me. And I said, oh my God, this is so good for the good guys. And Josh said, where in all caps, where is BSC? Yeah. Yeah.

And they did do the Kelsey brothers. They could have done the good guys. Oh my God. That's so true. Yeah. No, we're all like, Ben was freaking out. Like we're so excited. This is huge. It's very exciting for TNN for Gargi Parji productions. Like it's very exciting. No. And Josh has always elevated TNN and this is seriously taking us to another level. Who is the sexiest dog dad? Can I skip this? Like seriously, that would like,

No, I'm voting for Simu Liu. He's my friend. Oh, right. He's your friend. Okay. For not to tell everyone on the podcast, I actually hung out with Simu Liu over the summer. He was so nice and cool. We played pickleball. Justin Theroux, Max Greenfield, and David Bautista. I'm going to vote for your friend Simu. My friend Simu.

Who's the sexiest handyman? The Property Brothers, Ty Pennington, Chip Gaines, Jonathan Knight. Chip Gaines. But I want to say, like, them including Ty Pennington from Extreme Makeover Home Edition, whoever did this, like, knows me, you know? Yeah. I feel like they actually had, like,

four different people nominating and it was like someone from every realm. There is a Gen Z contributor here, but there also is a Swirly contributor. And I just want to say, like, I find the Property Mothers insufferable. Next,

Who is the sexiest supportive partner in sports? Oh, I love this. This is a stacked category. Of course, Jonathan Owens, Simone Biles. Oh, I'm really torn. Andre Lebron, who's Sidney McLaughlin. And we loved learning about their story at the Olympics. They are so cute. You have to look at their Instagram. They're obsessed with each other and Jesus. Like they are so cute and pure. And then Christian McCaffrey, husband to Olivia Coppo. Okay. I want to say something. Like he has my heart, right?

He is not like to me, he's not the same as the other three. Like he like the like we knew Christian McCaffrey before he married Olivia Culpo. We know Jonathan Owens. Everyone else has an athlete wife, not the athlete themselves. But they did say sexy supportive partner in sports. So I'm sorry, Christian McCaffrey. I love him more than life itself. And Olivia Culpo is my girl for life. I'm not voting for him. Yeah, I would vote for him in a different category, though. I'm voting for Andre. Do you know who Hunter Woodall is?

Is he the one? No. So his wife, Tara, is the one who won gold in the, what is that thing called where you jump in the sand? She was like, no, no, but it's like a part of that. They're on the same area of the field. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. They were making, they went so viral on TikTok. Long jump, yes. He's really cute and they had like really a moment at the Olympics, but I agree. I'm voting for, it's hard because you know how I feel about Jonathan Owens. Like I've recently like loved him. Okay, you vote for Andre. I'll vote for Jonathan.

This next category, like now we're getting stupid. We were already stupid. We are getting stupid. We were already stupid, but now we've gotten like seriously neurotic. Who makes Brat look sexiest? What? No, seriously, what? And the only person in this category who's like connected to Brat, actually Brat Summer, is Troye Sivan.

And the nominees are Troye Sivan, Joe Jonas, Kyle McLaughlin, and Barry Keoghan. I'm voting for Kyle McLaughlin, Orson. I'm not voting because this is stupid. I'm voting for Orson, but beyond stupid. Like that's where the Gen Z intern got like too much credit in the meeting. She's getting too close to the sun. Yeah, they listened to her too much. Agreed. Who's got the sexiest tattoos? Post Malone, Bad Bunny, Neymar Jr., Jeremy Allen White. Jeremy Allen. I don't know.

Who's the Gen Sexiest? Capital X for Gen X. Okay, that's a bad way of writing it, but it's a good category. Ethan Hawke, Shamar Moore, Matt Dillon, Benjamin Bratt. One thing about me is I love criminal minds and Shamar Moore truly has my heart. And if you ever want to laugh, I feel like I've brought this up on the podcast a couple of times, but it's worth repeating. Shamar Moore has the most niche personality

passionate fan base of like older women who find him so hot. You have to, if you ever need to chuckle, go read the comments on his Instagram. I do it all the time. I'm going to give him my vote in support of you. I believe in his Instagram bio, he like addresses his, oh no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, yeah. His Instagram bio is let's flirt, goofball, inspire, dream, succeed, and beat multiple sclerosis. He's obviously like also has a passion when it comes to philanthropy. He's cause driven. He's cause driven. He has my vote and my heart.

Next category, another stupid one. Which sexy Fiero makes you want to fly? And so it's like the cast of Wicked through the years. Anyone who's ever played Fiero. Jonathan Bailey, Aaron Tveit, Taye Diggs, Joe McIntyre. I'm going Taye Diggs. I'm going Jonathan Bailey. He's so hot. Who is the sexiest guy on TikTok? Oh my God, Fibula. Brew on the radio. Oh my God. Mark Estes, Connor Wood, Noah Beck. Okay, I'm literally voting for him.

- Fibs, because only one of these has been on the toast and I'm literally, wait, I'm sending a video. - Oh, I guess then I have to vote for him too. Who's Brew? - Voting for you. - Oh, Brew on the radio is a radio host for like a iHeartRadio station, but he like made his job also TikTok and he dates a big other TikTok, no one had really heard of him until he dated the other TikTok-tor, Ana Exetar, do you know her? - No. - Oh, she's huge.

super cute. This is a good category. I'll vote for Connor because he came on the toast. Of course. And I love him. Oh my God. I'm so happy for him. That's huge. Okay. Oh, and now I have to give my email address to cast my vote. I'm doing it. I want my work. I want my work to have counted. I'll give like a span email. Oh, sign up for more newsletters. No, thank you. No, I think I could just cast my vote. Oh no. My email is required. Okay. I'll give a spam email later. Oh, I feel really good that we did that. Like we did our part. Yeah. We are making our voices heard. Yeah.

and raising our voices. Yeah, like a lot of other podcasters are going to, you know, encourage you to register to vote at vote.org. We're going to encourage you to register at peoplemagazine.com.

Our next story, big Katie, big, big Katie news. Yeah, big, big Katie news. So Katie Perry went on Call Her Daddy. She has her new album coming out. The episode of Call Her Daddy dropped today. And one moment that's really going viral is she's responding to outrage over working with Dr. Luke on her new album because that's really been the lingering question. Like, why is Katie Perry working so closely with Dr. Luke today?

After everything. We know what we know. We know what we know. And honestly, she's the first mega star to do it. Recently, Kim Petras, her whole album was done by Dr. Luke. And she's, as much as it pains me, she's not a mega star. You know, she's very, I feel like most people listening don't even know any of her music. And so it wasn't as egregious and it wasn't as big of a deal. But Katy Perry, like one of the OG pop girls who's like so famous. This is huge.

Yeah, so just like- Oh, and the whole album is like about womanhood. Yeah, she was, just a little backstory. She's come under fire for collaborating with Dr. Luke, who was behind some of her biggest hits, worth knowing. I Kissed a Girl, California Girls, Teenage Dream, and more. The producer, Dr. Luke, was accused of drugging and sexually abusing fellow pop star Kesha in a 2014 lawsuit, which was settled last year. Her new album includes- Also, Lady Gaga. Lady-

Lady Gaga has never expressly, but she has acknowledged, yes, like she had something. He was on trial with Kesha. Yes, yes, yes. Her new album includes songs written and produced by Dr. Luke, including the singles Woman's World and Lifetimes. So she was asked directly, like people are upset that you're working with Dr. Luke, like what do you have to say about that decision? She said, quote, I understand that it started a lot of conversations and he was one of many collaborators that I collaborated with. I love collaborating with collaborators, don't you? By the way, when I watched the clip, I thought the same thing, like use a different word. Yeah. Yeah.

But the reality is it comes from me, she said. The truth is I wrote these songs for my experiences of my whole life going through this metamorphosis. And he was one of the people to help facilitate all that. One of the writers, one of the producers, I am speaking from my own experience. When I speak about women's world, I speak about feeling so empowered now as a mother, as a woman, giving birth, creating life, creating another set of organs, a brain, a heart. I created a whole ass heart and I did it and I'm still doing it.

I'm still a matriarch and feeling really grounded in that. That's where I'm speaking from. So I created it all of this with several different collaborators, people that I've collaborated with from the past, from teenage dream era, all of that.

Okay, like seriously, objection, relevance. What the fuck is she talking about? I had so many takeaways from her response and her appearance on the show in general. I think the fact that she was asked this question, she obviously knew she was going to be asked. And this is an answer that her and her team came up with, right? Yes, exactly. It's such a bad answer. And she could have gotten away with having Alex not ask her that question, you know? And she wanted to address it finally. And this was her big, you know,

It's such a bad answer. And I hate when people then bring up motherhood because like seriously, that has nothing to do with it. And I think that like she thinks if she brings up the fact that she's a mom, it like absolves her from something. And it actually makes it worse. Like you're a mom to a daughter. I think that the strategy here was like bring it back to the work, bring it back to the story you're trying to tell, like out of it.

And I think it's a really bad strategy. It's objection relevance. There is none to be seen here. And I think the things that she's saying about like her voice and womanhood and all of that, like really great stuff doesn't answer the question at all. And like using it as a shield is not a good look for her. Like, honestly, she would have been better off saying like, fuck Kesha. Lukey didn't do it. If that's what she thinks, because she must think,

somewhat decently of him to work with him again. As she said, she had so many collaborators. It would have been easy to just take one collaborator off of the album. So she obviously like feels decently about him and is working with him. So like say with your whole chest, don't like do this because you just look weak and like- - Spineless. - And now it's like, wait, so do you think that he did those things and you're still working with him? Or do you not believe that?

And that's why you're working with him because you know, you think he's a good guy. In which case, like, say that and, like, have a spine versus this. No, but also, I feel like it's so crazy that Katy Perry worked with this person, right? Because she's not desperate. I could see someone on the up, like Kim Petras, like getting Dr. Luke, who you never would have gotten at the level that you're at, to work with you. I can almost see the trade-off, right? What I can't see is someone at Katy Perry's level who has options beyond options, but also how the music industry is still...

Like there's a structure in place, right? Like to get

To get work with a pop star like Katy Perry, like you have to be in the mix. You have to have certain deals. And like the music industry is still popping up, propping up, excuse me, this person, right? Like you won't just get access to Katy Perry. Like you still have to be in the mix. How is he still in the mix? I think actually it was a bit of a desperate move from Katy Perry to try and like reclaim the greatness of Teenage Dream and those albums. Because he did work on those things. They're amazing music. What she's done since then, like in the most recent years, like hasn't

achieved what those songs did and I actually I think she wanted to do everything and throw everything at the wall to have an album like Teenage Dream and if Dr. Loop was such a big part of that then like she doesn't care I genuinely can't

how I feel. Like if she really thinks that he didn't do those things and like, I'm going to work with Luke again, like he's my friend or it's like he did those things and I don't care. I want a great album and Dr. Luke is the best because like, she's also another one who like still wears Balenciaga. Dr. Luke is the best. I can't. Yeah. Amazing point. People could just like clip me saying that. Oh my God, no. But that's an amazing point. But clip me saying, fuck Kesha and Dr. Luke. Literally. Literally.

By the way, you are 100% right. I think bringing up Balenciaga is an amazing point because anybody now who's like still showing up and showing up for Balenciaga, like seriously has no scruples. And I genuinely think that she has no scruples. That's what we've said about her in the past on a, on a more, um, non-serious level, you know, she'll just sing, whatever, do whatever. She just wants to like be, uh, popular mix. Um, but yeah, no, I think it,

It's steeper than that when it comes to working with Dr. Lucan Balenciaga. I don't care. I want great music. I want great clothes. I don't give a rip. No, it's so true. We have said this and now it's actually about more serious things. She is spineless. She stands for nothing. That's a huge takeaway from the interview. And for me, on the way to work today, like I did, I listened to Lifetime. The music she's releasing is so good. I am at this place where I'm completely separating the art from the artist because not only do I think she's spineless and seriously doesn't give a fuck about anything of great importance, but

What I took away from just clips, I did not watch her on the podcast. Like she seriously looks like she has one of the most fucking dreadful personalities on the planet. Like when she was laughing about sucking dick for doing the dishes, like she thought she was being so relatable and real. Like girl, shut up. You have a housekeeper. Like I seriously, I couldn't look at her. My main takeaway was like Orlando Bloom has to do the dishes. Why? Why is Orlando Bloom doing the dishes?

No, by the way, facts. And I think that people go on podcasts, any podcast, to be relatable, right? And they talk about real life things like doing the dishes. And for the most part, I think it's a pretty sound strategy. Like I have never really walked away from a podcast interview with someone and like hated them because it's relatable and you're just chit-chatting and usually you like the host and it's like, well, if they like this person, like why not?

Oh my God. I found her like, seriously, I thought it was, it had the total opposite effect. And I'm like, up until this point, like I'm riding for Katy Perry. Like I'm like, the music is good. No one's streaming women's world more than me. Like, but, but actually I think it had such a negative effect. And I can only imagine how, what this interview, the effect it had on people who already were not feeling her, you know? Like I was giving her a chance. I'm like, I'm like watching the clip. Like, okay, Katy, like, let's do it. Come on. What are we saying?

I was seriously like, ew. And like maybe if her partner wasn't the biggest movie star in the world, maybe if it was even like a smaller artist or a businessman beau, like I could see him. What is Orlando Bloom doing in the kitchen? No, and by the way, now I understand all those news stories when she was on American Idol of her like saying out of pocket shit. Like I really thought that she was getting like a bad edit. Like I was seriously up until this point, like really writing for Katie and just choosing to see the best in her.

No, let me tell you, she has an absolutely dreadful personality and she just kind of adapts and says what she thinks the person she's talking to wants to hear. So like, I think that like, she's never listened to this podcast. Her, you know, publicist said it's like, you know, a sex podcast. So she goes on there like, dick suck cock, ha ha. Like, are you okay? I thought it was seriously one of the worst. And by the way, I didn't watch it. No, and the clip, it was only one clip that we saw. It's like meant to be like a highlight. Like here's like a great moment. Yeah, a trailer. And I was like, oh, if this is what's to come.

I'm sorry, Big Katie. There's no amount you could spend. There's no amount of money Big Katie could spend on making me like her in this moment. But let me say this, and I'll say this. I will be listening to the album. Like, her music is really, for me, like, the music I need these days. I love you for, I love you for.

And how sad that that's the one that's Dr. Luke. But I do find, like, I'm loving the bops. The bops are bopping. Like, as she said, the BPM is hitting. Like, there's nothing wrong with the tracks. I think they're, like, perfect little tracks. However, like, I don't feel, like, a deep connection to the music. And I think that's because you're separating the art from the artist. Like, you can't have, like, we can dance and we can have fun. But it's not, like, making me, like, feel things. And when I listen to Woman's World too closely, I'm, like, wow.

What are you saying? You have to listen to Woman's World while you're doing something else. Yeah, like, it's Woman's World, you're lacking too little bit, like, and we're not going nowhere. Like, where would we be going? No, and I think that's actually a conversation we had recently because I had seen this article talking about how Dua Lipa has amassed a lot of success while seriously giving nothing to her music when it comes to personal references. And that's...

That's kind of what Katy Perry is doing. And Dua Lipa having success is a complete anomaly. That's what that article was about. It's not going to happen for Katy Perry. It's not. Yeah. Or like, yeah, you'll get half, you'll get some streams and we're going to put on the party playlist. But like,

It's not like making me feel closer to you as an artist and feel things. No, and we had said when she was coming out with her new album that we were really ready to give it a chance because she's really not released music for a while. She went through this huge change. She's in this really happy relationship. She is a kid. Like, we're ready for that deeper Katie moment. That's exactly what we said when she announced her album. And the way she gave us the opposite of that is shocking. Like, it really points to a lack of self-awareness from her and whoever is like running her brand. Yeah.

- Yeah, also I feel like I liked "Woman's World" more before I saw the music video. And now when I listen to the song, I see the music video, like her just like- - Flying. - Who is Katy Perry? Who are you? Every time I watch,

listen to the song I'm thinking like who are you because that's like and it's it's not a pleasant experience so for the rest of the album I won't be watching music videos like I just want to enjoy the music no and I won't be keeping up with Katie's press like I won't be watching interviews like seriously I think it has a negative adverse effect on me yeah I can't take much more

And I just want to say like everything she said about like the metamorphosis she's gone through being a mother, creating a heart, creating organs, like yes, facts. And like, that is so amazing. And, and to not have that be its own conversation. And instead it's like a shield. To bring that up in defense of what she's been accused of. It's like,

It's shitty. And it's annoying because I would have liked to expand on that. But instead I'm like, wait, you didn't answer the question. Can we go back to the question? Yep. It would have been better if it wasn't asked at all. Agreed. But do you think Alex could have gotten away with not asking it? Yes. Not with Katie, like amongst-

you know, listeners. It's like the elephant in the room. Yeah. Like, I mean, I think she would have gotten backlash, but I think that happens like frequently with anyone who goes on. Like nobody, and everyone's such a big talker, right? Like, I can't believe you didn't ask. Do you know how scary it is to ask that question? Like for real, seriously, I can never. I'm like, I can't believe she didn't ask that. Meanwhile, it's me. I'm like, I love Dr. Luke. Like, it's scary.

It's scary. And by the way, it's important to remember like these people are journalists. This is not Diane Sawyer. Right. So we're just like trying to have fun, do our jobs and like podcasts. And so it's very easy for everyone to be like, oh, she never asked the right questions. You do it. You do it, bitch. It's fucking scary. Yeah. Or like, you know, ask a follow up question. Like, hey, wait.

Yeah. Hold on. Hold on the organs for a second. Right. No. And it's like, oh, I had the balls to ask this question about Dr. Luke. Like, you want me to answer a follow up one? No, I don't think so. I really don't think so. No, seriously. Wait. So like, do you like Dr. Luke then?

Me? No, no. I'm like, that would be like the follow up. Like, so do you think he did it? Yeah, of course. But seriously, there are so many publicists, producers, everyone's watching and like you're in front of this mega star. No, I think she got clearance to ask the one question. She probably wasn't even listening to the answer. She was like, I am so happy to be done. That's how I would like, seriously, that's how I would have handled it. I'm really non confrontational. Yeah. Yeah. That is so funny.

Okay, are you ready for our next story? Some more podcast news. Yeah. New podcast coming on the scene. Hawk to a girl is starting a podcast called Talk to Up. So her name is Haley Welch, and I would really appreciate it if we start calling her by her name instead of Hawk to a girl. But she's now the host of Talk to Up from Jake Paul's media company, Better. Better.

She's doing her podcast with his company. It debuts later this month. It includes guests such as Whitney Cummings and Josh Richards. Okay, wait. I didn't realize that Better was Jake Paul's company. I think that's actually a great brand alignment. I think like, you know, we often are criticizing what people name things. They're books. That's one of our... And it's hard to name a podcast because really all the good ones are taken. This is one of the best names ever.

I've ever heard. Like, it's brilliant. Yeah, it is. And everything I've seen of her...

since her viral fame, like every interview she's done or like clips I've seen, like she seems like a great girl. I think she's going to have a lot of success and I wish her the best. The thing with podcasting is the cream always rises. Right. No one's going to sit down for an hour and we can listen to crap. Right. Like you could be the most fabulous person ever and like your podcast sucks. It sucks. Like there's nothing that can help that. So I wish her the best. And you know, I think this will be a real indicator of, of her success. Like if it's, is it 15 minutes or is it a lifetime? Yeah. But I feel like she's setting the,

herself up for like long-term success by not like, she's not doing all the obvious things so quickly. Like she's really building a solid foundation, I think for a career. And I think this is a great idea. And she seems like she can talk. I mean, that's why she went viral, right? Cause she gave a great interview. So that's really a major criteria for having a successful podcast. Like, do you have interesting things to say? And do people want to listen to you? And I really feel like she's got it. So I completely agree. I wish her the best in the space. Yep.

- And I'd love to see another woman in the industry. - Other women and woman in the industry, agreed. - Other woman in the industry, yeah. - Yeah.

So are you ready for our next story? Is it our fifth and final duo? It's our fifth and final duo story. A little Women of Food Network news making news. Formerly of Food Network. I don't think either of them are associated with the channel anymore. Yes, but for us, like they always love me. To me, they represent like the heyday of Food Network. They remind me of our grandma. Yeah. First up, fans are seriously concerned for Rachel Ray as she appears to slur words in a new cooking video.

So fans say they're seriously concerned for Miss Rach as she appears to slur her words in a new cooking video. The chef took to Instagram on Monday to pay tribute to the late Tony Bennett by making his favorite dish, Assobuco, which consists of braised veal shanks with polenta and bread. In the video, she recalls a story of how she almost killed Tony Bennett because she polished the floors and...

I watch a video. I know I was bored enough the first time. I don't want to go into it a second time. No, the thing is, is that I think anybody who watched a video in full, like couldn't even tell you what the video was about because they were looking at her. Like I have the comments, the people were split and I actually agreed with them. People really thought that she appeared to have had a stroke because half of her face is sort of sunken and the like, you know, one half of her mouth like is pointed downwards while the other remains, you know,

And then with the slurring of the words, a lot of people thought that she was drunk. So I think both of those are decent analyses. I hope she's okay. I watched the video, like knowing that people were saying she was slurring. I didn't like really hear a slur. It was just like kind of like,

a wild video to me. I can't explain why just like the accents and the Asabuco and Tony Bennett, like she killed Tony Bennett. - That's so Rachel Ray. - It was like that chaotic Rachel Ray energy, even though it's been 15 years, like she's still that girl where I was like, what am I watching?

She is still like in that retro looking 30 minute meals kitchen. That show was a cultural reset, like for mothers everywhere. Like she seriously was lessons in chemistry. She was. And of course, like any great cooking show, a part of me was like, should I be making osso bucco? I think it's really hard. And I don't know if it's like kid friendly. Oh, it wouldn't like really. I mean, they love beef, but it would be like. It's veal. I've never made veal.

I only like to deal with like ground chicken, beef and turkey because it doesn't feel like an animal anymore. No, I agree. And it's like so little and like you break it up and it's like not offensive. Like opening like a thick piece of beef, like when it's like raw in the middle. Oh my God. It's like call animal control or when you're doing like a whole chicken, like, and you have to get the gizzards. Yep. I will excuse myself. That's just not for me. You can purchase it gizzard free. You can. Yeah.

I haven't. I haven't made a whole chicken in like a really long time. Well back to Miss Rach. I really hope she's okay. She is a queen. But I also feel like she must be okay because she put this video out. Like it's not like someone caught her on video like messing things up. Like

This is a very produced piece of content. That's true. She's giving us the best of Rach's self. But I feel like that reminds me a lot of, like in Jessica Simpson's book, she talked about like at the height of her alcoholism, like you're still functioning to a point where like you think no one knows, right? Yeah, yeah. But you're right that Rachel Ray has like a whole team for all of her content. And I think there's like 8,000 people it needs to go through before it gets to air. But what we've seen in the past is like you'd be surprised how many things get published and

that are so disgraceful and how many people had to look at it, you know? - Yeah, I think in thinking about it further, like I think this is that classic chaotic Rachel Ray energy. - Okay.

Just like. I think she's having health. I don't think she's an alcoholic. I think she's having like health issues. And I think she's fine now. And maybe there are some side effects. She had a something. Something. Right. What is it also? Bell's palsy. When you know your face freezes. Yeah. I think she might be going through it health wise. And maybe she doesn't want to share it. Because people are entitled to medical privacy. And maybe we all need to like give Miss Rach some space. We're entitled to medical privacy. While also sharing our favos. Like two things can be true.

What am I doing? Holding your Osso Buco recipe that you made for Tony Bennett when you almost killed him and privately perhaps having something medical that you're struggling with. And I'm holding space for both of those things. It's as easy as that, folks. That's Ina. How easy is that? How easy is that? Well, our part two of Food Network Ladies Stories. I can't believe we spent the entire summer in the Hamptons and didn't see Ina once. We didn't go, we didn't do the Ina tour. Like we didn't go to the places that she frequents. It's true. Like we know where she could be spotted and we avoided them like the plague. Yeah, like...

I'm not going to put down any like local great establishment. But she was she wasn't where we were. She wasn't where we were. Our fifth and final story. Another Food Network queen, Sandra Lee, says that she gained 10 pounds judging a Netflix baking competition. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Sandra Lee told Page Six she gained 10 pounds in one month while judging a baking competition for Netflix. Honestly, everyone was having a swirly summer.

Ain't that the truth? She's fronting the new show Blue Ribbon Baking Competition in which champion bakers from state fairs across the U.S. face off for the first time in an epic baking showdown to win top honors and $100,000. Ooh.

It's their job to sample the goods and pick the hottest bakers. And she took it seriously, at least if her scale is anything to go by. That is so funny. She said we had to eat everything we had to taste. Absolutely everything. It was four weeks of a sugar high. And it's not just tasting the dessert. You also have to break it down and taste the cake separately or the crust separately, different from the filling or from the icing. And sometimes you have to eat more than one portion. I easily gained 10 pounds, she said.

Dream job. Like seriously, dream fucking job. And I love to see Sandra Lee out here getting work, you know? Because the food space is really crowded. Yeah. I think it's hard to stand out. And it's really changed. She and Rach. And Rach sort of like built her own empire after Food Network with the Rachel Ray show. She had the line of dog food, the line of human food, the line of kitchenwares. Like she really created like a media company. I have some of her oven baking sheets.

And I'm sure they're fabulous now. Yeah, they just don't fit in my oven here anymore. It's like a waste, but... It's okay, I have my car away. I think the ladies of that time on Food Network had to sort of scramble and do their own thing. And I think Sandra Lee very much fell into like being a socialite who used to have a show on Food Network. And married to the governor. She was married to the governor, yeah. Before he, you know, was disgraced. Was no longer the governor. Forced to step down. And so I think it's been hard for her to find a space for herself in this new, very like internet-focused space.

TikTok-y cooking space and I love that she's getting you know booked on gigs I think that's huge yeah I recently have fallen down like an algorithmic rabbit hole of old Sandra Lee semi-homemade with Sandra Lee videos and like the things that she used to make were seriously so crazy it's been kind of one of the joys of my life to see when they surface like to watch them from start to finish it's insane not just even like two shots Sandra Lee

Like the time she made a baked potato out of ice cream. Because it's hard to get your family to eat ice cream unless you make it look like a brown baked potato. No, and seriously, that was a very, like, you had to be there at the time. Like the early Food Network days, like, what year was that? We were like in middle school, like 2005, 6, 7. Like, it just hit different. You had to be there to get it. Those were the days. Desperate Housewives was on the air.

Ugg boots, mini skirts. Ugg boots with the fur. Like we were living life. We didn't even know what we had. We didn't even know what the fuck. Flip phones. Flip phones, like sound mental health. Chapstick, like flavored. Juicy tubes. Juicy tubes. Hit clicks. Rosebud salve for when your lips were actually chapped. Rosebud salve. Like those are the days. The Olsen twins. We just let it.

- We took it all for granted. - Oh, to be young. That's what the youth is wasted on the young. - Ain't that the truth. - Oh, kind of major Adele news. You know, she finished her residency. She's finishing her residency. And when she was singing, ♪ Oh, I'm so mad ♪ ♪ I'm getting old ♪ ♪ It makes me mad ♪ She changed it.

- Two, "Glad." ♪ Oh I'm so glad I'm getting old ♪ Like seriously, I love that. That song always makes me cry, always. - Yeah, oh I love that. That's like a cultural shift. - We should start a list of songs that are guaranteed to always make us cry. ♪ In case you don't live forever let me ♪ - Yeah, that's a real one. I don't cry.

- I don't cry all the time from when we were young. No, that one I just can't even listen to 'cause like why ruin my day? I have things to do. But when we were young, like I love that song. Like it's emotional, but like I can handle it. - Oh, I can't. - I'm strong enough. ♪ I'm strong enough to live without you ♪ Oh, that was like really off K.

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Okay, so every Wednesday, Jax and I do Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment, where we try to help the girlies out. You can write us, send us an email, deartoasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com and you can write in, you know,

Whatever's plaguing you, relationships, friendships, weddings, work, things of that nature. I mean, I have selected three submissions today. And if my iPad would just refresh, I would be able to share those with you. I would love to hear the submissions that have been selected once your iPad does refresh itself. We'll use my phone to start until it refreshes. Okay. Okay. Hello, Swirly's.

I am getting a breast reduction in two weeks and my p-jump of a husband has been really supportive. However, last night he told me he wants to do a boudoir photo shoot before the surgery so that he can look back at my larger boobs whenever he wants to.

I'm not opposed to boudoir photo shoots in general, but my husband knows that one of the major reasons I'm getting a reduction is because I don't feel sexy with these larger breasts and they make me incredibly insecure. I really don't want to do the photo shoot, but I also don't want to take away his joy. Any advice? Should I suck it up and do it or stand my ground and not do it? For context, I lost about 30 pounds last year, shout out to Ozempic, everywhere except my breasts. So now I'm dealing with severe back pain from carrying around G-cups on a smaller frame. I'm going down to a C-cup, so still not tiny, and I'll still maintain my milk ducts for breastfeeding.

This is a story that hits really close because Jackie and I, you know, one day, very soon. We count the days.

that we will be getting our breast maybe we'll go in together we'll take the whole week off like we are getting breast reductions it will be when we're both done having all of our kids like it will be the greatest day so I'm so happy for you let's just yeah before we get into your husband ruining things let's talk about how excited we are for you it's such uh it's an exciting time in a young girl's life and we are so happy and also jealous so congrats for taking the leap it's huge this is something like you are doing for yourself and I need you to tell your husband

to fuck all the way off. Don't you dare do this photo shoot for him. Yeah. Also, it can be a sexy boudoir photo shoot if you're not like feeling yourself, right? Like, it's not going to, pictures aren't going to come out like the way he thinks because you have to be in that mood and that's not how you feel right now. So I don't think like,

Like it could really even be achieved and you shouldn't put yourself in an uncomfortable situation like that. And it's like, you don't want to remember. So I think he needs to like move on from that. But I would be curious from toasters in the comments. Like I feel like sometimes when women get a breast reduction, like their husbands are, you know, it's not what they would have wanted. They love the big titties. But then you get like a new boobs and a C cup is a lovely set. Like how do the husbands feel about the new boobs? I feel like we never get like an update. Like do they...

Yeah, because husbands are wrong about everything, right? So like they're sitting here crying like my big titted wife. And then next thing you know, in a month, he's got like a porn star for a wife. She's got perfect tits and he never brings it up again because he's very happy. I'm just curious. Are they very happy? Do they like move on? Do they lament about the old boobs? Can someone who's like, or I'm sure a lot of you have like been in this situation, like can you sound off? What happens next? Like is it, does it only get better from here and you just need to tell him like, wait, you're going to be happy?

Or do they like sit around every day? Like here lies Shannon. Like here lies my wife's former boobs. No, this is just annoying. Cause like, this is a thing you're doing for yourself, right? Obviously for your confidence. Cause you're saying you're struggling with feeling sexy, but also for your physical health. Like your back is killing you. We have all been there. Okay. So the fact that he's making this about himself is very turdy coded and beyond unacceptable. Like,

Do first of all, like tangible advice. Please do not do this photo shoot. Like I think it actually sets a bad precedent that like this milestone for you becomes about your dumb ass husband. Okay. And like tell him just to keep up with the support and shut the fuck up. Yeah. I just, the photo shoot is like a lot of to do something that you don't want to do. Yeah. It's not like, okay, I'll go to this dinner. It's like a photo shoot. Yeah.

I have to get all gussied up and it's expensive too. Like to have those things done. Like, please seriously, like do not do it. And the fact that you said, I don't want to do it. Like you have to get stripped down. Like do not do it. Yeah. Wishing you well. Wishing you well. Now this next one is so crazy. And you know, this is a scenario where we kind of just need to take the toaster and shaker. Okay. A shaken toaster. Hello, Jackson Turdy. Long time toaster here. I'm in desperate need of your advice. I think my boyfriend is lying about his job and his apartment. When we started dating, he,

He said he works security for a sports team. He told me detailed stories about the job, the players, etc. He has since quit the job just before the season started.

And a source who has a connection to the security team just revealed that my boyfriend's name doesn't sound familiar. I've asked him about the security company he worked for and the company does not exist according to Google and he doesn't ever want to continue talking about it. Additionally, he tells me he has his own apartment in the city and he has shown me pictures of it. However, he says he prefers to be in the suburbs at his parents' house and he once told me we couldn't stay the night at his apartment after a wedding because his grandma was sick and she was staying there.

I feel really icky about this, but I don't want to accuse him of anything because everything else about our relationship is 10 out of 10. I love him and I legit feel like he's the one. Do I do some digging, hire a PI? I'm a concerned swirly who may soon be a heartbroken. Your relationship is 10 out of 10, but you want to hire a PI? That's not 10 out of 10. If you can't even trust a word that comes out of his mouth about basic things,

you have to confront him and then also be prepared to dump him. Like I want to say, break up with your boyfriend, but like maybe there's a logical explanation. Maybe he's jobless. Maybe he is living at home. Of course he's living at home and maybe he's ashamed and maybe he can cop to those things. And maybe if he can, then your 10 out of 10 relationship can move forward. But like, you've got to get to the bottom of what he's lying about.

No, and I would say like, you know, you don't know anything until you ask, right? Although the evidence is really compelling. And like grandma wasn't staying downtown when she was sick. Right, like she was at the hospital. Or she was at maybe her kid's house, which is your parents' house. Like who goes to stay at a bachelor pad? What grandma stays at a bachelor pad downtown when they're sick?

No, and I really worry that you've been in this relationship and you've never seen his apartment. And that didn't raise a red flag for you at all. And I think you're... You honestly sound like a hopeless romantic. And I think that actually just really is blurring your vision. I think you're making bad decisions. I think it must be a five, six month relationship situation.

Due to the fact that it was a sports thing, like, and he wasn't working because it wasn't the season. And now the season starting again. So it's probably five, six months and she's trying to like figure out, okay, yeah, it's weird. I haven't gone to his apartment. And I think now is the time to ask questions. And I'm sorry, your relationship can't be 10 out of 10 when you don't have trust. Like you don't trust him. You don't believe him. Like, how do you even believe that when he says he's going to go do that? Like you have to get to the bottom of this and be prepared to end the relationship because he's a liar.

But if he has like a really good, I'm going to hold out hope that if he has a really good reason for lying. This could be like a sitcom. Like obviously the evidence is so obvious and then you ask and there's like a perfectly logical explanation. Yeah, it's like, okay, my grandma lost her job and she's in my apartment and she didn't want you to like, whatever. Me to tell you. And so I moved back home with my parents even though like, why wouldn't grandma move to the parents' house? I don't know. Jackie, this man is homeless and jobless. Okay, let's just put it there. And those,

Those things, that could change in a day, you know? You could get a job in a home tomorrow. So that's not necessarily a deal breaker. The lying is the deal breaker. That, you can't become a non-liar tomorrow. And I just fear, like, based on the way you wrote it, like, you sound, like, you just don't want to believe it. And, like, it really, like, your man's lying. So you have to confront him. Yeah. Things shouldn't be so confusing. Simple things should not be so confusing. Yeah. Yeah.

Our third and final one is a touchy subject.

Hey, Parchees. So glad you're back because I really need your help. My boyfriend and I don't agree on a touchy subject. I want to sell feet pics and he is not on board. Well, I can see why he hates the idea. I feel the benefits way outweigh the cons. It's incredibly lucrative. I don't have to show my face and I vetted the sites where I can be safe. I love my boyfriend and I don't want to lie to him, but I have school loans. Signed, A Business Swirly. I don't see the downside with feet pictures, right? Me neither.

That's exactly what she's saying. It's extremely lucrative. Your personal information is not out there. Pictures of your face are not out there. No one will ever know. Is it really that lucrative? I think so. I think if you've got good feet, I don't think anybody could just be out here making money. I don't feel like it's that lucrative. I feel like that argument... If there's enough volume of it, it's kind of like cameos, right? You could do it, you know, 25 bucks, that's not a lot of money. You do 20 a day...

But remember they, on Vanderpump Rules, they did feet pics to raise money for Raquel's nose job and they couldn't raise money. And those are like a lot of attractive girls, famous even. I don't know if like Vanderpump Rules is a fair like reference point for this. I just feel like if feet pics were really and truly like a very lucrative space, like wouldn't everyone do it?

Jackie, I think a lot of people do it like that. And because it's so anonymous, like you don't know about it and they just move on with their life. And honestly, it sounds like she's also done a decent amount of research and she knows what she could be earning. Because if it's enough to make a significant debt in your school loans, like girl, do it. I'm sorry. Yeah, I really just don't see the downside if it's like...

All this money is waiting for you. Are we missing something? Is there a big downside? Sound off in the comments. Like, I don't think so. I guess, like, you could have, like, it's creepy people who are now, like, invested in you. Maybe you could get some stalkers. Yeah, but if you don't share any of your personal information, like, how do you get stalked? You're just, like, hoarding creepiness. Freaks. Hoarding freaks. Yeah, you need to go into the process knowing, like, everyone, all your customers are seriously, like, unwell and don't tell them anything about you. Yeah. Yeah.

- Yeah. - And it's not like you're mailing them, like you're literally texting them. - I don't see the downside, but I don't know what the downside would be. I don't know enough about the industry. - I think you should do it. - But I also think like, also he's your boyfriend, like you're still making decisions for yourself. Like he doesn't get like that much of a, no ring, no decision on feed picks. - No ring to the table. - Unless he wants to pay your student loans or has a better idea for how you could do so. - I love that. Why doesn't he make the monthly payments to thegov.gov? - Yeah.

Also, kind of a theme I'm sensing from the first and the third submission is like, and one is a husband and one is a boyfriend, but it's the same sort of theme, is like, do whatever you want. Like, please don't. Like, men are so dumb. Like, if you listen to everything they say, you'll be worse off. Like, make your own decisions. Only you know best. You know what's best for yourself. And it's important to consult your husband on, like, important things. But, like, when it comes to your boobs, that's your own business. When it comes to your feet and it's your boyfriend, that's your own business. It's important to consult your husband on important things, but, like, when it's your boyfriend...

You don't get the same sort of reverence. You don't get the same say. You just don't. You don't. You don't. Maybe if you married me, you could have a say. Yeah. And these loans become our loans. That's a perfect solution. Yeah, no, if he's like contributing towards the loans and in a marriage, that's how it works. Like, of course, you have a say in how we pay these off. Yeah. But until then, respectfully, shut the fuck up. And grab the camera and start clicking. Yeah, turn the lights on, get a ring light and get to work. Get to work.

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