Alls That To Say, Shavasana: Tuesday, October 22nd, 2024
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Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. Happy Tuesday. Bruno's here, Jax is here, Clirt is here, and squad going up on a Tuesday. More on a Tuesday, I would say. It is a choice.

It is a choice. It's a choice. Now, we are choosing to discuss lots of things here at The Toast. You know, I love to discuss things at a glance that we're going to be discussing in the Fast Five. Run of show. Run of show. As they call it in the biz. In the theater. The run of show. Fast Five stories, swirly energy, parjalicious things. But we would be- Parjalicious definition. Make the boys go loco. Yeah.

But we would be absolutely remiss. We would be absolutely devastated. We would literally be heartbroken if we didn't discuss like what the hell went down on the internet last night. Literally, I have no idea what, okay. So I don't

I don't even know where to begin other than the fact like Jackie and I went to the artist tour over the weekend. So many people were like so excited to hear Jax's take, her review of the whole experience. Did the Swirlies have a swirly time? We came on here. We said it was the greatest show. Well, you said it was the greatest show on earth. We complained the whole time that there weren't enough of our favorite songs. It was...

We said it was so joyful, such a positive female experience for mothers and daughters. Like we couldn't have been more glowing. Like, yeah, we complained about like not wanting, like wanting more of our, our fave songs, but like, that's just life as a girl. Like, like you just complain. No, we could never have generated the amount of clickbait that you guys in the comments generated for us by saying, Oh,

Jackie's so negative. What? You left early. If I read the comment section, I would have thought Jackie came on the show and said Taylor Swift is an ugly, untalented wench and left early because she was so offended by what she saw. The comments, like I want to say, I want to say thank you for all of the clicks that you generated because I think people were like so shook, eager to hear what I had to say that would leave a comment section like that. So then for them to hear that, I say it's the greatest show on earth. My favorite parts were actually the things that I thought weren't going to be my favorite parts. And then the things that are

always my favorite parts. Actually, I love things even more. Like it was, she literally couldn't decide which her favorite era was. Was it reputation? Like there were too many favorites. That was a crazy wild ride. I saw that people like were so upset that I left early. Um, she didn't leave early. But again, you know, listening comprehension is key. Like I was going to leave a few songs early, no matter what I experienced, because to me, like getting home an hour earlier is worth those not hearing those three songs. You guys, I literally,

I left the Stanley Cup a minute before the game ended so I could beat the traffic out of the stadium. Like, I've never stayed at any show until the very last minute. Literally the same. I'm always running, like, during the encore to get out. Like, it's so misleading to say, like, they left early. We left a couple of songs early. And by the way, if we didn't, I saw people there literally till 3 a.m. trying to get out of the parking lot. Like, it's, like, it's what you do when you're at, like, a big, it's literally, like, not a big deal. People were being so nuts, you guys. Do you get it, darling?

Did you leave early? Like you guys, we had the best time. Like it was seriously so crazy. Like, no, no, no, no. It was so crazy. But I was actually like very highly entertained by the unwellness taking place in the comments. And I am worried about a lot of you. I hope that, you know, you can get the help that you need. If that was really your takeaway from the episode, like so negative. What do you mean? I spoke about the concert for like 30,

30 minutes my story we were having the best time I went very much into detail about my every single thought on everything but like if you're not interested in like a comprehensive comprehensive review of the show I don't know what you what you thought I was going to say it was great period no no this was my favorite this so what I wasn't expected this is what I wanted sorry that my surprise songs that I didn't love them as much as you might have loved them like

No. Are you okay? It was really, it was something else. I was so shocked. Like if you would have told me yesterday. And that because I left a few songs early.

And that I don't know that I had thoughts on the show that I don't deserve to go to the tour and it should be for someone else. Mind you, every single person was around us and we spoke to everyone around us because there were so many toasters and then like other people were like, oh, what do you guys do? We just like we were we got there early for Gracie Abrams. So we were talking to people. Every single person we spoke to, this was either their second or third viewing of the show. Like the Swifties have seen the Eris tour. There is space for

for me to go and see it one time and leave a few songs early so that I can get an extra two hours of sleep. That's what it would have been, two hours. - The actual, like you explaining yourself, like I'm actually embarrassed. Like Jackie, seriously, I'm not even getting into the weeds. This is so crazy. - It was so, the volume of comments, I'm like,

Where is this engagement usually? Right, right. No, I have to thank you for the engagement, but I also have to worry for your sanity. Yeah, I don't know where this influx of actual haters came from. It wasn't the toasters. Like we said, extrapolation is okay when you trust your faves. I don't know where the hell these comments are. Maybe we ended up on a Taylor Swift subreddit or something. People being like, I hate Taylor, and they didn't even actually listen to it because it was so- Or they said, oh my God, these podcasters got tickets to Arizona and they left Earth.

early and if you just see that then like oh you think I hated the show and I left early no I leave a few songs early for everything so they can make it home in a timely fashion because I have to get up at 7 a.m. and take care of two children and like no seeing a song is worth that extra time of sitting in a parking lot in traffic wishing I had just left 10 minutes earlier no

Please stop explaining yourself. Like I'm actually embarrassed. Like this is so stupid. And I just want to say, I don't know what, like we should have checked it where some of the incoming traffic was coming from because it definitely like, you can see that it definitely was like some like hater rate. Like, I don't know where it was. So you guys, Jackie and I were like, literally like we finished the show. Like sometimes we're like, we know we say something like a little. Yeah. And we're like kind of refreshing the comments. Like what's the temperature? What's everyone thinking? Seriously. We like went on with our day. We literally got lunch. Like I was so not thinking about it. I'm like, they're going to love our era store recap. And yeah,

The woman was too stunned to speak when she picked up her phone. No, I never would have thought that like leaving a few songs early would garner that reaction. And then you could ask me like, if I knew that people would be so offended by that, would I not have shared that part? Like, no, I feel like that was germane to my recap. Otherwise, like what would I lied about what I saw at midnight? No. And Jackie also like,

went to the Aris tour and this was what she did and what she thought. Like, it's like, really? You guys, it's not that crazy. I never ever would have thought that like saying that I left a few songs early would elicit this reaction. And what's so funny is then there was like the regulars who came to watch the episode and they were like, based on the comments, like I would have thought I wasn't expecting, you know, this glowing review of the Aris tour. So Jackie, how much did you hate the Aris tour? Yeah.

I loved the Eris tour. It's seriously. I loved the Eris tour so much. I wish I had more and I stayed longer. No, like it really was sometimes like, you know, in this line of work, you know, like sometimes you say something and it's going to like, it's, it's like a hot take. It's a controversial take. You're expecting some sort of influx, but every now and then, like people like genuinely misunderstand what you say. And it's,

so frustrating because you're like, I literally didn't say that. That is like enraging actually. And like, this was a perfect example. Like we literally sat here and like the words that literally came out of your mouth were like, it's actually the greatest show on earth. Like that really was. Like this was the best. That was the best. And she talked all about how like so many songs from like different parts of her childhood, like and resonated with her and like brought her back to X, Y, Z moments. Like it couldn't have been a more comprehensive analysis. And yeah,

I was seriously, I was in shock. It's so, so crazy. I've not experienced like directed at me like the toxic Swifty fandom. Yeah. And I want no part of this. Like I stepped on a landmine, like get me out of here. Yeah. Get me out of here. That is exactly what happened.

You guys, you guys. And it's like, on the one hand, I'm an OG Taylor Swift fan. I've been here longer than most of you. And if you have been here as long as me, that means you're pretty old. Yeah. And it's time to grow up. Yeah. It's time to get out of the comment section and go back to work. And I can understand if you're listening, you're like, oh, she left early. I wouldn't have left early. And then moved on with your day. Yeah. But the ire in the comments was on another level, you guys. It's...

It's time, as the people say, to touch grass. Yeah, it's a touch grass moment. Between the toes, betwixt the toes, socks off. Well, all's that to say- Hands down. All's that to say- Shavasana. Shavasana? Godspeed to all. Like, well wishes. I don't even know. Like, seriously, I don't even know. Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. And I feel like there was also something else I wanted to clarify from yesterday's episode, like something I got wrong, but-

Well, we'll save it for the corrections department. Totally. I watched Only Murders in the Building last night. Why? Because Ben and I were really struggling to agree on something, and we had randomly picked up in the middle of season three, so we were like, whatever. Let me tell you, that shit is so good. It's really a perfect show. Yeah. It doesn't have a grip on me like it used to. I feel like when it first launched, everyone was obsessed, and by the end of the second season, it was the same thing twice, you know? Yeah.

But it's kind of a perfect formula. It's really good. Like, it's really, really good. I think I started the third season. It, like, didn't grip me, and then I just moved on. But, like, if you're in it, it is really good. Like, it's so well written. And it's such a funny concept. They always get you. Like, there's a murder every season. Like, you really haven't. Like, we found out who the season three murder was last night. And, like, I never would have guessed. They really got me there. That's good. I'm reading my book.

Oh. One Perfect Couple by Ruth Ware. Oh. Do you know her? Uh-uh. Do you know her? She wrote It Girl. Do you think that one? No, but I know her. She's like a swirly writer. Yep. I'm not loving the book, but it's for my book club, so I do have to finish it. There's two books called Perfect Couple. What? No, this one's called One Perfect Couple. Oh.

and the other one's called the perfect couple I don't know it's a little it's a little close for me yeah but I'm not I'm not loving this book but I do have to finish it because of the book club participation and then I have to start the redheads book so it's a big reading week for me oh my god opposite for me as usual like uh staying on trend with me the whole year I haven't picked up my book like it's I'm in the middle of like six books yeah I keep like not finishing and finished one that I was in the middle of long island compromise well oh my god I finished

Compromise. Yeah. Like I seriously am in the middle of the Beatrice, Beatrice Redheads one. What's it called? Beatrice Williams. Husbands and Lovers. Okay. I am in the middle of Sarah's Key. Oh. I am in the middle of this one that I picked up in the Hamptons bookstore. It just like looked cute. There was like a couple of bikini swirlies on the cover. Meh. I'm in the middle of If You Lived Here You'd Be Famous By Now, the book that's being picked up by like Kim Kardashian. Calabasas one? Yeah. Oh, that's cute. Is it good? Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. I'm like literally like 8% in. I don't think I'm going back. Yeah, I'm like 20% into five books, which actually equals one whole book if you do the math. It's true, Brewie Louie. I'm just not. I'm not in my reading era. It happens. I'm in my era's era. Heart. She's afraid. Oh, I'm afraid. By the way, are you warm? Yes, which is funny because the studio was so cold. We walked in here and I was like, Jackie, you're cold.

The air conditioning on this side of the house has been broken for a while. It's now working. My coil situation is all full circle. It's my bedroom too. Your bedroom didn't have air so I fixed my coil. We got the air up and running for Trini next day. But now the air is on full blast. The vent is right above us. It's so fucking cold in this studio. Us wearing blankets yesterday. They're both pregnant.

Like I can't, they're both covering their, like I just actually, I happen to have like seen so many comments from you. Usually I try not to like look at all the comments. It's really not good to like see that many opinions of yourself like every single day. I really, I check up the top comments because sometimes people are being funny, but like I really try to stay away. But yesterday I like went deep because I was like, what's going on? They're both pregnant. I was like, okay. So I'm like, oh, we can't have a blanket today. Everyone's going to think. And literally it's so cold in here. Are you sweating now?

I'm warm now. Also like my pants and actually these pants aren't going to help the pregnancy rumors. My belly looks big. Bruno was never beating the pregnancy allegations. Never going to beat them. Just just ignore it. OK. Yeah. No. So like between like trying to like sit in a position for my belly and then like the pants. Yes. All's to say I'm warm now. OK. I'm warm now.

Oh my God, so funny. We also had an unbelievable meal last night. Like I have to give a shout out to Jax for like whipping up

a par-delicious dinner. Like not me eating so well here. I can't stress that enough. Like and I'm eating such whole well-rounded meals. Like even this morning for breakfast like your house is just full of like real food. I like I live in the house of like a frat house. So it's like what do you want for breakfast? A bowl of cereal? No this morning I had a yogurt, some fresh fruit and a slice of sourdough with butter and salt. Like not me like checking off all the food pyramid tiers. That's what we're trying to do around here. No it's a nice life you've got. I've really like revisited

- It's like it's like something that like I take really seriously is food. I don't know what we were watching. Maybe it was lessons in chemistry or maybe it's like one of these million like things that I get targeted on reels where like someone said like food is medicine. Is that lessons in chemistry? - I feel like it's so lessons in chemistry. - But it's like, it's the fuel for your body. - It's so true. - Like it is important what it is. - No, it's so true. - It's like you wouldn't use, you use premium gas, right? - I do use premium gas. What a crock.

No, seriously. True. But like, that's how I think of it now. I never used to. Like, I actually, like, if something was homemade, like, yucky. Of course. You're throwing it in the garbage. No, no, homemade. What, did your hair come along too with it? Yeah. Like, if it was from like, the factory.

Don't forget to garnish with your toenail. When something was from the factory, factory sealed, it couldn't have been better. And now I have done a complete 180 in my life. And it's taken like 10 years. It's not like I woke up one day. It was a very slow progression. But so this is the end product. And I'm glad that you're noticing it and appreciating it.

It's really lovely to like exist and like stay in a house where there's just like so many like different options. It's not like, I feel like in my house when I'm hungry, I go to like the snack cabinet. I'm like chips, pretzels, things of that nature. Chips to the cake. Chips to the cake and clam bakes. And like that's...

Like those are my options. Or if like you're in the mood for something like you have to go and get it or order it because you don't have it like stocked. No, and like here, like, oh, I just want a pastry. Let me just go grab the sourdough discard and whip it right up. Right, right. But that's also like a product of having kids and like they need all of those different food groups. And I definitely wasn't getting in on my food groups before kids. Like I was just like, what do I feel like today? Yeah, so I'm feeling really like, you know, full in a lot of different ways. I'm so glad. So you enjoyed the dinner last night. It was so good. Like one of your best.

Oh, well, thank you so much. It's a half-baked harvest recipe. So good. It was chicken parm, but half of it I didn't parm because some people were like, we want... Just non-parm. No parm. Yeah. No parm. Nope. So, you have any beverages over there? I'm kind of thirsty. I have this really strong coffee. Oh, no. You don't like Netspretz. No, no. Usually I have my thermos, but today I was like... I was hoping for like a sparkling water or something. Oh, or my big tumbler that I've been using on the show. Yeah, yeah. Which is a really great way to sneak in some hydration. It is. It is.

But no, I mean, coffee's not hydrating. I actually think if you took a sip of this, you would vomit because I would pass away. You would. It's real coffee. No, I don't like coffee. Like that's not from like the grocery store. And I don't know if I'm like thirsty. Coffee's not hydrating. Coffee is not hydrating. It's dehydrating. It's dehydrating. What are you looking at over there? A bottle of water that might be two years old.

Oh, it's got some condensation at the top. And it's been opened, which means if it was never opened. Yeah. No, I'm not drinking that. I'm not drinking that. Do you have anything in your quarters you want to go grab? I do, actually. I do have a nice beverage. Why don't you go grab and I'll tell everyone how much I love the Arras tour. Okay. So yes, the Arras tour. I'm in my Arras era. I'm in my brew-y era. Let's get real. Brewist Lewis, it's just me and you again brewing.

I'm old. Also, something I noticed in the comments, which I was grateful for because I didn't notice it without the comments. Yesterday was the first day and like,

a number of shows where I made it through the show without singing I'm So Glad, my Travi. And thank God for that. Made it to the big game. And it's because it was beaten out of me, like by the artist tour, because I got a, I got what? How many songs did she play? It's like 50. I got 50 Taylor songs that were now in my head and Travi didn't make it to the big game. I just want to shout out to Ben Soffer for never cleaning up his like side of the bedroom. He did leave this gargi pargi Gatorade. How is that in my house? How, who?

Who let that in here? He probably picked it up at the golf course. How did that pass security? Well, it was on his nightstand, and here I am feeling hydrated with Gatorade. I'm in shock. Yeah, I know. We're not like a Gatorade house. No, like seriously, how did that get through the doors? It's kind of delicious. It reminds me of Pam. It actually looks really hydrating and parge. It is hydrating. And parge. I wouldn't say it's parge. No, actually. But it's getting the job done, so that's parge. Gotta get the job done. What are the stories like today? I feel like what is even going on in the world? That's what the stories are like today.

What is even going on? Oh, it's not. It's not. Oh, I just got a sneak peek. In sinks. Joey Fatone. No spoilers. No, I'm cracking up. That harks back. I know. I know. I see. I see. A larger developing story. Okay. Okay. Okay. I see. Okay. Okay. I'm older. I'm older. So also say no rush to get to the stories. Oh, okay. So you don't want me to do what I need to do? No, I feel like we could. Keep trying.

Keep chit-chatting? Shoot the shit a little longer. What's going on in your life? I mean, you've been in my life. For all of it. We did split up kind of early last night, like right after dinner. Yeah. Because I was editing a vlog, a really fun vlog. I told you guys about this when Claudia came. I was like cooking and everything. So I'm just like using my big tripod and vlogging around the house. Yeah, I don't know. You did get introduced to the tripod.

If you guys don't follow us on social media, that's really crazy of you. So I would definitely change that. But if you had wanted to see the kind of critically acclaimed tripod on wheels that we spoke about on Friday's episode of the toast, we did find it. You kind of like hit it for me. I couldn't find it all day yesterday. Because the kids play with it. It's like, it's a Marvel. It's literally like Wally. Yeah.

We finally were able to get it on camera and it's up on our TikTok slash Instagram reels right now if you want to check it out. So you should follow us like to see that but also to see the content I'll be creating like with this big fancy tripod. Even like I did an ad for Dreamland Baby yesterday on my tripod and like you could tell that the angle was new. It's all I'll say. Yeah. And I saw everyone kind of whispering in the comments like how'd she get that angle? That's what I saw. Is her phone floating? She hates the arrow store.

She hates the Arras tour. Oh my, no, now that clip is going to get taken and put back on. Oh no, I think they'll clip when I said, Taylor's an untalented, did I say ugly too? No, no, no. What did I say? You said like untalented, but it was hyperbolic. I think I said untalented, ugly wench. I don't think you would say ugly, honestly. You should make that the title.

Yeah. Let's invite more hatred. Like it's so good for views. Like I know it's hard. It is hard. It is hard road to walk, but it bears fruit. Let me tell you, that's like a line of like, like that's a strategy for a lot of people who do what we do, like podcasting, social media. And it's like saying, and like leaning into like the craziest things that they could possibly think. And, and,

feeding off of that toxicity in the comments and like that could never be me I hate any sort of like drama yeah that's why I'm always like I love everything like I'm like afraid yeah that's so you I love everything yeah but I do I'm really kind of a lover of all things why are we giggling

I was giggling at the thought of that being the title. Taylor Swift is an ugly, untalented wench. Can you stop saying that? No, but like actually, can you stop? Like what do you want? Okay, Taylor Swift is a UUW. Like stop. Like seriously, stop. I don't want this. Like seriously, if you're going to be like that, like...

I feel like if actually I feel like if we did not work together, you would be one of those people who like has. No, because it's I wouldn't do it at the end of the day, not because of the controversy, but because it's devoid of facts, because that's not like what I said. And it's just sort of trying to have a moment like I don't have a moment, but I appreciate like when it's factually accurate. So for that reason, I wouldn't do it. And for that reason, you're out. Yeah, but not for like the same reasons as you. However, we both end up out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For whatever reasons they may be.

We all got our reasons. Now, I think to avoid you saying anything else, we should dive in. What do you think? I think so.

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All right, Jax, let's see these stories. Oh yeah, I see some of the tabs. - Oh wow, you're really spoiling for yourself. - For myself, yeah. Well, we're sharing an iPad. Our Florida, we're a little budget down here. We don't have two iPads. - No, we just, we share one. - Yeah.

We are so deprived. Our first story is an update in Liam Payne's death. The toxicology results have been released and they indicate that multiple drugs were in his body at the time of death. So the toxicology results, test results indicate that Liam Payne had multiple drugs in his system at the time of his death last week, including pink cocaine, as well as cocaine, benzodiazepines,

Diazepine and crack, ABC News reported, citing sources. Pink cocaine is a recreational drug that includes ketamine, methamphetamine, MDMA, opioids, and or new psychoactive substances, according to the NIH. Wow, so that's like five drugs in the one, plus the benzos, I think they're called. Yeah, that's like, I know benzos. Cracks.

What's Benzo? Crack is crazy. Benzo is like pills, like pharmaceuticals, right? Like you actually can be, I think I actually was prescribed once for like my back. You can be, but they're obviously like also can be abused. Yeah. I mean, that's a lot of drugs. Like that's really, and then when you see like the state of his hotel room, it kind of makes sense. Like,

full picture wise. But also I had heard the 911 call from like someone at the hotel set calling the police just being before they had found him. Just like we have this guest who was really erratic. We sent him to his room. Like we think he might be, you know, on drugs and alcohol, but there is a balcony in his room. So we're a little worried. They kind of like, like, like new, it was really, I know it was like kind of chilling to hear like foreshadowing. Yeah. I think I had read that also some of the drugs that he was on could cause hallucinations. So, Oh, for sure.

you know, and when you're mixing like, yeah, it's a recipe for disaster, which is what it resulted in. No. And his dad flew down to Argentina and, um, there's like a, a video, he's standing on the balcony trying to like understand how someone falls off the balcony, like of this height. And it's kind of like a tall, um, barrier. It's not like a low hanging and he's like mimicking different movements. It's like so sad. That's really sad. I didn't see that. Yeah. Yeah.

So the partial autopsy determined last week that he died of multiple trauma and internal and external hemorrhages as a result of his fall from the balcony. Right. And he must have fallen and broken his neck, right? Because it's a third floor. So that's not like an automatic way to...

way to die right it depends what the area of impact was yes right right literally so sad and like so crazy so sad I feel like the whole entertainment and music industry is like still reeling from this people are still posting their tributes obviously the fans it's just definitely like like taking everyone yeah no the 1d community like they're seriously in mourning they're like especially on social media like they're really not okay it's really upsetting it's really sad like especially like when you think about that he's a seven-year-old kid like yeah

So that's the latest. Yeah. Just sad for everyone. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Which is some random beef. I love this. File this under random beef. Okay, who? Me and Jake from Safe Arm? Ariana Grande and Elvira. I'm obsessed with this. So Ariana Grande is disheartened by Elvira's claim of rude behavior years ago and recalls having an anxiety attack. So in a recent article,

And the actress, Cassandra Peterson, she plays Elvira. And that's from what? The Addams Family? Like from something spooky. Something spooky, but it's like something Ariana Grande loves. Of course, when I hear Elvira, I'm like, oh, there's the one Elvira that's like, yeah, Morticia Addams vibes. But I didn't like actually know who that was. And no, that is who we're talking about. It is. Yeah, she's from Mistress of the Dark. She's like an iconic...

Spooky woman? Yeah, what is she? And that's really Ari's beat. So like Ari, it makes sense that like. Yeah, I feel like Ari has dressed up as Elvira for Halloween like multiple times. Yes, so the actress who plays Elvira, Cassandra Peterson.

posted a recent viral YouTube and TikTok video recalling one of her worst celebrity interactions alleging that in an onstage horror themed event that Ari once refused to take a photo with her after asking she pose with a large group of Ariana's friends and relatives and then her remarks like drew boos from the crowd so

So then Ari commented on the post the following day, right? So wait, Elvira basically said, like, Ari refused to take a picture with her, but Elvira was really gracious taking pictures with all of Ariana's friends and family. Yeah, that she brought- Who, like, apparently love Elvira. She brought a really big, like, group with her. Yeah. So then Ari commented on-

a post the following day saying that she was so disheartened to see this. She said, quote, I actually don't even remember getting the chance to meet you because I had an anxiety attack into my memory left before the rest of my family. This was around seven years ago. And at the time I was really not great with being in public crowds or loud places, which obviously makes sense because of Manchester. I didn't, I didn't understand that.

Yes. She said, but if I'm misremembering this moment, I sincerely apologize for offending you. So thank you for being so nice to my mom. She told me how lovely you were. She might have different feelings about that now, but I'll talk to her. Clearly we all have our days. She concluded by writing that she was sending love. Always. You'll always be our queen of Halloween.

Okay. So she's the queen of Halloween. I want to say that like, I kind of really like that Ariana Grande didn't just like roll over and take this. Like, I feel like a lot of times when you get like called out for something, even if like in that moment, like you have a valid excuse, like it's always easier to speak. I'm so sorry. Like I was having a hard day. I kind of love that. She gave a lot of context. Like one, I was having a lot of, and now by the way, I think you like her putting into context, the whole Manchester thing. Like it,

it's natural for anyone to be like, not like a bubbly and so nice to everyone. Like when you're in a big crowd, like that makes total sense. Um, and I kind of love that she like responded in a really kind way, but also like gave it back to Elvira. Like one, I don't know if my mom still likes you. And two, yeah, bitch, I was going through a lot. Yeah, no, it was kind and shady. It was kind of perfect. She's owning up. She's not like saying that she didn't do that, but like, she's giving a very reasonable reason as to why she did. Um,

And just like also taking the high road with a little bit of low to it. I think it was a really good statement. And it like shuts down the whole thing as opposed to things spinning out and viruses. And I don't like.

One of my least favorite things is, like, when people call out... Like, when celebrities call out other celebrities for being rude one time. And, like, it so lacks so much context. And, like, you really truly never know. Like, remember Candace Cameron-Buray and JoJo Siwa? JoJo was like, she took a picture with everyone except for me. Like, whatever. Yeah. No, we're, like, flaw. Flaw, right. We were just talking about this. Right, right. So, like, I...

And I think like when it comes to like, you know what, you want to be marked safe on the internet. So like someone who's in Ariana Grande's position is always going to be like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Because like apologizing is the only thing you do. I like love that she didn't like honestly, like because. Yeah. Maybe she was having a bad day. Like it's fine. If she is just like a bitch who would do this to anyone at any time. Now everyone would be coming out of the woodwork saying I had the same experience. Then it wouldn't even matter if she apologized because she's just going to do it again because that's just who she is. So like, yeah.

Yeah give someone trust your faves. No and like seriously seven years later talking about one moment like that's. Well if she was asked what's the worst celebrity encounter like you know yours even if it was 10 years ago. I do but I have the thing is like if somebody were to ask me on like a big you know like in a real interview like who was your worst celebrity encounter I would say who it was and we all know it's Hilary Duff but I would also say like I actually can acknowledge like in that moment like I was probably being annoying. Yeah. And like I was like an annoying 16 year old girl like she was just trying to have fun on vacation and like

You know what I would have been mean to me too. Like, like I can hold space for the fact that like I wasn't being like perfect. Yeah. Like I was being annoying and I was like nonstop staring at this person who just wanted to like be enjoying her life. Right. So yeah, like the most gracious person would have put up with me, but like, sorry, maybe she's not the most gracious person. I'm like, that's okay. Yeah. Is that it?

- Agreed. - That's on growth, okay? Like not me taking responsibility for the Hilary Duff saga of 2016, 2012. - I feel like you always do. - No, no, I actually don't. Like I think in the past, I really historically blamed Hilary for that entire scenario, but I'm woman enough and like grown enough to admit like, why was I staring? Like me and my friends like actually get a life.

Yeah. And maybe now like you've been in that position a little bit, like now having seen the other side. Yeah, but I would never act like Hillary did, honestly. If someone was like staring, staring. But the thing is, in this day and age, I feel like things like this happen a lot less because the second you have like an interaction with a celebrity that's less than glowing, you're taking to social media and like celebrities really want to avoid that. So if anything, like social media has kind of course corrected that. And I think that celebrities like do things and take pictures that they wouldn't ordinarily want to do because they're afraid of like even one tweet. Yeah.

Yeah. Because it can, look at James Corden. Like it can start a whole, Ellen, it could start a whole social media, like it could ruin your career, one tweet. Yeah. Yeah. If you, especially if you have like a pattern. A pattern. The pattern. The pattern. Yeah. So. What was the story? Ari and Elvira. Who knows what's next for these two? Yeah. Ari and the Elvira. Like take it to the ring. Like let's take it to the streets. Yeah. So funny. So funny. And like seriously, I commend Ari.

the lack of like not just turning over and being like I'm sorry I'm bad like um me and me Ariana like I just I like that yeah and you don't expect that from Ari because I feel like she's very like you know she doesn't get like controversial a lot she's like a real like pleaser yes but then when she actually speaks like she's always saying something it's true she definitely has like a point of view she has a point of view and I like that about her yeah it's funny we've been talking about Ari a lot recently and like

I'm forgetting about our era of like really being disappointed in her. Yeah. You know, now it's just like Glinda, Amira, Cynthia. It's Glinda slash Mrs. SpongeBob to you. Like she is still dating this guy. No, I know. You can't think about it too much. But it's really crazy how like enough press like just kind of pushes the news cycle down. And I'm just like thinking about Ari and Ari alone. And you have to think about Ari. Like this isn't her first rodeo. Like remember her big scandal with the donut shop? Like she's kind of used to it.

yeah. Yeah. People always have the donut shop. I know, but everyone really let that go. Yeah. Well, the thing is like I, and I think like most people like Ariana Grande has been through like a great deal of trauma. Like I give her a lot of runway, like to just act out. No, but the donut thing happened before. Oh, did it before Mac Miller too? Yeah. I feel like maybe. Yeah. And so it was just like absolved, you know? Cause she like

She obviously, what was the name of that donut shop? I don't know. Because I feel like when celebrities, like I literally know the name of the yogurt shop that Demi Lovato like was triggered by the diet, like sugar-free diabetic diet.

The big chill. It's the big chill. Did you see what I posted on my story last night of Demi Lovato and Alison Stoner? You know what I did? And like, you were obviously on like a real stare last night because you sent me some of the weird, like I woke up from like, with like four DMs from you. You went to sleep too early last night because I was on a real stare. Yeah. Like I knew I was sending you stuff and like it was just going to like get lost. Then I would have to like watch it all together. Yeah. And then you just like don't get the punch. Yeah. Yeah. Demi Lovato on her show that we were talking about where she talks to kids, sorry, she talked to Alison Stoner about that.

viral moment from Camp Rock where Allison's doing this, like, playing the piano. They were just, like, breaking down the behind the scenes of that moment. Oh, what did they say? Allison said, production said, just, like, play something and we'll put in something after it. So she didn't even know what the beats were going to be and she just gave a little do-de-de-doop. Yeah. And then...

When she heard what they layered in after, it was, like, so weird. It was something that, like, you would play on, like, one of the toys out there. Yeah. No, it's seriously, like, one of the weirdest scenes. And then they have Demi being like, and then I had to be like, that's really good. Wow, she's really good. Demi says it in an overlay with Mitchie. Like, it was just really funny. That is funny.

No, I feel like I'm also coming around a lot on Demi Lovato. She went through like a couple of insufferable years. Yeah. The big chill ice cream debacle of 2019. But I feel like she's like happy in her life. Yeah. And that's like radiating. And I'm actually, every time I see her, remember when she was like doing that stupid alien thing? I saw a clip also. I got reels of her on her alien show and she said that like one of the ghosts was kind of stuck. They couldn't move on. And so she sang. Yeah. But that's old. That's old.

That's from her insufferable era. I know. I didn't think it was new, but it was just like sometimes old shit comes up. And it was like, don't forget, Tammy Lovato once sang to a ghost so he could pass on. Yeah. What is she saying? Skyscraper? Oh, I don't know. I couldn't stick around. So I feel like we haven't talked enough about like she did, like she's kind of, I'm coming around on her. I feel like I talked about it because I was saying how my

was stalking her Instagram recently. Don't know why. And she's doing like a lot of cooking and like with her mans and she seems really happy. And like, then she's also doing her show. And I had noticed that she was trending upwards. And she's like chilling. Like she's not trying so hard. Like she's just like enjoying her life. And it's nice to see somebody like,

- Stable, like doing well. - They need to break down that camp rock scene where they're like. - This one. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Camp rock. - Yeah. - Oh Bruno, it's okay. - Sorry Bruno. - It's just camp rock. - And they also, Bruno don't worry, it's just camp rock. They also need to break down this camp rock scene.

Whatever made you a loser. No, it's seriously so funny. And like the fact that like that movie raised us and we're not bigger losers is actually miraculous. Well, it was all out of balance, right? Yeah. Because we're also watching like Clueless and Mean Girls. And like the OC. Yeah. So. We have like a wide range of interests. Yet they're also all incredibly basic and everyone was watching the same things as us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you ready for our next story?

Yes. One of her? Three. Kristen Cavallari breaks her silence on Jay Cutler's DUI arrest. Oh, I wasn't waiting for her to speak, honestly. No, but she speaks like for a living and this is something that happened so close to her. So she did have to address it. It's kind of like the plague of being a podcaster. It is, but she handled it like a pro, which she is because she made a brief statement at the start of her most recent episode of her podcast, sharing that she had recorded the episode about breakups before the news of Jay's arrest. So she just put in at the top.

I do of course wish Jay the best and hope he gets the help that he needs but that's all I will be saying about it. Yeah honestly I kind of wish she didn't even say anything. I really don't like this culture where like we demand people speak. Like him drinking and driving has literally nothing to do with Kristen Cavallari. Like can she be left out of this for once? Yeah but I feel like if she didn't say something about it then not me. Other people like annoying people. Kristen talk about this. Why didn't Kristen

to talk about that. Because it's private. Nipping it in the bud, like addressing it by saying like that's all I'm saying about it. I think again is like a pargy way to handle things. Yeah, but like it just bothers me. Like it's really not her problem. No, it's not. Like now she didn't drink, she didn't drive. Like now she has to deal with the fallout. Like,

- This literally isn't even her man. - Yeah, but I think people, like she talks about things and she talks about like a- - Let's be honest. - Yeah, that's her thing. So I think it's congruous with her brand to just like bring it up, shut it down, move on. - What do you think their relationship is like? I feel like it was contentious, like during the actual divorce, 'cause there was like a lot of money going around.

But I feel like they're actually like good co-parents now, but I have no proof of that. Yeah. And I don't know why I have the vibe that like she just got more custody. Not to do with the DUI, like recently just shook out where like she's with them more. She's also been posting them more, which she like never posted them before. Maybe they're old enough to like consent. Or like just...

their agreement has changed. I don't know. But I feel like they do a really good job even if it's hard and we don't know. She makes it look not hard and like she makes it look really smooth. And she never drags like it into the public space. I think she handles it like really really well. And I'm sure it's riddled with drama and like I'm sure he's difficult. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. But she's like, you know, does it all for the kids. And honestly, it's really classy. Yeah. She keeps it classy. Yeah. In a non-ironic way. Yeah. It's hard to say that term without it, like keeping it classy without it sounding like the opposite of classy. No. And classy has just become a word, like an insult exclusively used on reality TV. Like that's not very classy of you. And it's like, what does that even mean? Like, look where we are. Right.

Yeah, no, like we're on reality TV. None of this is classy. No, and it's like, I feel like it started with like the housewives, like the older women, like who used it in a real way. There used to be a time where the word classy meant something. And now it's just kind of like corny. It's so corny. And it's a shame because it's a good word. Yeah, we lost another good one.

Add it to the list. We should start a list of words that like truly have no meaning anymore. Like classy being one of them. Gaslighting is another. That's one of our faves. Like that gets used so much in like culture and like internet usage that like the actual definition of it no longer applies. Well, that would also be literally. Yeah. Dying. Dying. Because if we all died, there would be no one left on earth. Rip. Rip. Rip humanity. Rip to civilization. Rip. Rip.

Speaking of rip, when is Yellowstone coming back? Claudia, that's our next story. Okay, well, I don't want to go there yet. That's so weird. Because you know what else? Did you know that? No, I didn't. Did you spoil it for yourself? I didn't see. Because I was thinking as I was looking for something to watch and I ended up watching Only Murders last night. I saw Ginny and Georgia. I was like, oh, new season. No, it hasn't come out yet.

There are some shows that like seriously take three year breaks. And now obviously Yellowstone had a lot of drama, but also what's the team? But what is the team? Where the hell is Ginny and Georgia season three? Now, let me tell you something about Ginny and Georgia. First of all, you would love it.

By the way, you guys, Jackie would love Ginny and Georgia. You know what it is? It's one of your bad shows that's actually popular. It's like the number one show on Netflix. Your favorite boy is in it. I feel like if this guy's in a show, you like it. Jason Street, the actor who plays Jason Street from Friday Night Lights. That's your favorite boy. I do love him. He's like your Richard from Bold Type. Yeah. I was going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bold and the Beautiful. That's what I almost said. Yeah.

Yeah, like there are certain actors like you can't really define their genre, but it's like bad. It's like working actor. Yep. Yep. I feel like Jason Street is like a little bit more elevated because he played like one iconic role. I don't even know his name. Scott Porter, I think it is. But I'm literally his number one fan. Scott Porter, date of birth. Address. Well, he's in it. By the way, I think you should add, like I'm actually really going to insist that you add Ginny and Jordan to your content plate. Okay. Okay. Okay.

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You're welcome. Are you obsessed with that song? Hearing it every day here? No, it's pretty good. Of all the songs that like the kids make you play like 4,000 times. It's not the worst one. No, it's not. The worst one is C is for cookie. Yes, I definitely agree.

Our next story, to answer your question, Yellowstone season five, part two trailer is here. Oh, wow. The end is near in the explosive final season. I don't know why. I feel like we're never going to see it. I just watched the trailer. It just still doesn't feel real. And like it was there. And it was there. I was rare. I don't even remember how the show, I have to watch like the last couple of episodes again. Right. So they just dropped the trailer for the new upcoming season and it looks good and John's in it.

John's in it. John's in it. Maybe like, I don't know, he passes in the first episode. Right. But he is there like talking about stuff. They definitely do and they should kill him. I think for the plot line, it actually works. Yes. And for like the vibes on set, I feel as though it probably worked. Well, the set is done. No, but I'm saying if like day one of shooting, the first episode, they kill him, like for the remainder of the episodes that they had to film, they could go out like on a nice note. I just like don't know why he couldn't like stand a few more days of...

The show comes back on November 10th, which is like tomorrow. Oh, that's really soon. Yeah. So we can watch it. You might still be here. Probably. So there you go. To answer your question. Okay. What do you think is going to happen? Like, I think it's so obvious that like, it's probably not going to be like John dies and they battle it out for who gets it. And obviously Beth and Rip get it. And that kid becomes their like ward. No, I think, well, one there was in the trailer, like Casey and who's the president of the reservation? Oh,

Oh, the classic guy from Twilight. Classic guy from Twilight. They do like a blood oath. They like, you know, very like... Like a pact. Yeah. What's that movie? Hangover. No. About the witches, Sandra Bullock and...

The witches? Yeah, practical magic. I don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah, it's very practical magic. Anyways, they do an oath, and I think that it's going to end with an alliance between the two of them of somehow sharing the land, and then it goes to Casey's son, who is of both worlds, and it ends kind of in a part-jelicious way. That is part-jelicious, except what about Beth and Rip? They're being punished because Rip grew up without parents, and Beth was... What's the word? Uh...

Sterilized? Against her will. Yeah. How is that fair? No, it's not fair. So like, I know, but life on the ranch isn't fair. But I mean, like the ranch still needs to be worked. Great. So he could be like a labor, but he doesn't get to own any of the land. Like nobody loves and nobody knows that land better than him. Casey doesn't. Right. So like, I don't know. Maybe there's just a part of delicious pact. It would be nice if it was a part of delicious pact, but I feel like there isn't a perfect solution for everyone.

And I kind of want it to end that way where it's like a piece for Gretchen Wiener's harsh old Yellowstone air. I like, I'm not rooting for Casey. I know he's kind of like the obvious choice because it fixes a problem, you know, both worlds. Um,

But like you literally abandoned your family for so many years and like you didn't even help with the ranch. Like meanwhile, like there's Rip every day slaving up at dawn. Like, I don't know. I just feel like manual sweat equity and like labor has to count for something. Yeah. It should be. What about the old guy too? Who's the old guy? You know, the one that's always around that was dating the young girl. He's like, but he's not like a part of the family. Rip is different. I'm just saying, if you want to talk about like sweat equity. No, he's like a paid employee.

So is Rip. No, Rip is family, Jax. No, no, I agree with you. And anyways, also say, usually I'm not about the like peace for everyone and like everyone's a winner. Communist energy. However, like that's how I expect the show to end. But now in thinking about it, like I also would love a choice, much like Succession where it's like, and now it goes to Tom. Love that. Same with Game of Thrones. Like they did choose someone. And I do like a choice. So even if it was like- Someone we hate, Jamie. Jamie.

That would be entertaining. Yeah, I actually agree. It can't be Jamie, though. That will not be like, please, no, never. It can't be Jamie. He cannot be rewarded for everything that he's done. Like, I, like. But even if they said, like, Casey, it goes to you. Yeah. I will accept that. Well, who do you think John's favorite kid is? Casey. Yeah. Who do you think John thinks is most capable? Beth. No. No.

No, maybe Casey. I think they need each other. I know. He's just like, he's just like, yeah. I mean, just Beth and Ripper. So entertaining. Yeah. No. And like, yeah, that's it. Yeah. Like,

He doesn't get the one-liners. I don't think we're supposed to be obsessed with him. He's just nice looking. There's only one clear winner, successor. But that means we're not going to get. It's not a show that gives happy endings. I feel like they're going to lose the ranch. But also, Beth and Rip, they don't have air. So it's not really an answer. They have that kid. Who is that kid? I'm sorry, that's not... He's a wayward child. But he's literally like Rip...

20 years ago. Yeah, sure, but he hasn't put in 20 years of work. But he's going to. He just showed up. I'm sorry, it doesn't all go to him. Yeah, yeah, no, it's so true. They literally picked him up on the side of the road.

meanwhile like Casey's kids like hello right yeah I don't know I'm looking forward to seeing what they do it's nice to have a show back you know it is nice to have a show back so November 10th we'll see what has it been like four years the first part wrapped up in January 2023 so it will have been almost two whole years that's literally not crazy at all a little dramatic where is Ginny and George's season three

I feel like everyone's over here talking about, and by the way, I actually met that, I met Ginny at an event. She was like really cool. Her name was like Brienne something. Brienne of Tarth. Brienne of Tarth, yeah. Honestly, she should have won the Game of Thrones, Brienne. Totally. Justice for Brienne. Are you ready for our fifth and final story, which was kind of teased at the beginning of the show. You were like spoiling my big announcement. I don't know if I've said this and if I have, I must say it every time we talk about the

in sync and Joey Fatone specifically. But I actually remember where I was when I realized that his last name was not fat one. It's Fatone. Yeah. Like Olivia told me, do you remember that board game we used to have that we would play at our house in Florida? Like

It was like a card game with like NSYNC. No. I feel like Olivia would remember. We were sitting at the dining room table. Yeah, the youth. We were sitting at the dining room table and I was like, fat one, ha! She was like, it's actually Fatone. And I was like, seriously, my whole, like my worldview has never been the same since that moment. Yeah. I wonder if she remembers that.

Oscar tonight I feel like you're not talking into your mic like you usually do like it's like in your neck which is so not like you are you calling me fat like no you're like always on type of mic placement sorry I'm so comfortable I'm having such a good time I never have to correct you but like I've noticed I never was I just being like Mary Orton vibes I think so you were literally like you were talking like this like if I were talking like this would you stop me I would I was talking like that sort of yeah that's so not like me right I didn't even know how to tell you

- Oh my God, how long? - A few minutes. - Oh, you guys, I'm really sorry. I actually feel like it was okay. The only real- - I know, like the thing is, there's a huge microphone. You talked like one inch to the left of it. - Yeah, no, the only real issue, the only, and if anyone's curious about like the IT, you know, the tech behind the magic, the really only issue is if you talk away from the mic.

But still, there is a huge microphone. You're talking one inch away from it. It's a little bit lower, but you can still hear. Yeah, and to be honest. It picked up the vacuum yesterday. The microphones need to be doing better. These are expensive microphones. Find my mouth. Do you know what I mean? I need an automatic door, one that follows you. Yeah, a roving microphone. I need a microphone because I'm so emotive. That's actually a really good idea. Sure, get on it. Maybe work with Heil. Yes. Sure, Heil.

Anyways, our fifth and final story. Joey Fatone's big news. Joey Fatone's big news. He is joining Ann Juliet on Broadway with Charlie D'Amelio. And he'll be singing Backstreet Boys songs in the show. Oh, yeah, they do. I forget which songs that they sing, but the classics. Yeah. Who is he playing? Sting.

So he will join in the role of Lance, replacing original Broadway cast member Paolo Cezotte for a limited nine-week engagement. That's like, it's giving, I don't know anything about the show, but it's giving Lance a lot. Just saying. Paolo what? He's playing Lance. Lance. Like the way I saw this show and every time we talk about like different cast members, I could not tell you who any of these people are. It's not Lance Bass. Lance Dubois. Is it Lance Lott? He's a supporting character. He's Angelique's love interest and Francois' father. Who is Angelique?

Francois. And where does Charlie fit in? She's just a dancer in the back. She's in the chorus line. Yeah, and by the way, she's making a lot of TikToks with like the fellow swirly. It's like I think they're loving her and she's loving it. She's so cute. I know. Charlie. Charlie. It's once again a reminder like your son shares a name with the greatest talent of our generation. I like that for her and for him. And for him. Charlie. And happy for Joey. And for Joey. I feel like

Being a member of one of those bands, well, really not even Backstreet Boys because they've been back together for a while and they all make a living. I feel like being one of the lesser known members of NSYNC is probably a terrible fate, to be completely honest. Justin Timberlake left and he's a billionaire. Now,

I don't know if any of them ever even tried to do solo performances, but as far as I know, like, a lot of them do. Like, that guy Chris, like, does, like, solo NSYNC appearances. Like, I don't think they're very high-paying. And it's just so crazy to see, like, Justin Timberlake out here, like, doing the Super Bowl halftime show. And, like, some of his bandmates, I bet, like, can't even pay their rent. Like, for real. I think that being, like, one of the other members of NSYNC is better than being, like, one of the other members of...

98 degrees at least i know their names okay okay so yes there's definitely fates worse but i think it would have been better for some of them to have been in a band that never took off so that like 35 they just got a job i just feel like these guys like anything that they want to do in a certain realm you know like if they wanted to go on dancing with the stars they can do like they can really do i think i think you're speaking exclusively for jc chazelle like take him out oh actually

And then Chris. We are always seeing Chris. No, no. We're actually not. Okay. I guess I'm exclusively speaking about Chris. He's always on the CMA red carpet. Because when I talk about like. No, you're thinking of AJ from Backstreet Boys. He's always on the CMA red carpet. Him too. We've interviewed him twice. Him too. No, you're right. I guess Lance Bass. Any door is really open to them. Like maybe not the biggest, most best A-list doors. But like a lot of doors are open. They need ancillary. They need hosts for stuff. They need cast members for this show or that show. Lance Bass. Maybe you want to host a cupcake one.

made a life for himself. I completely agree about Lance Bass. You want to start a podcast at iHeartRadio? Sure. JC Chazet did date Eva Longoria and that's not nothing. That's not nothing. And then Joey Fatone is like a cultural icon, especially for the Greek community. He was in My Big Fat Greek Wedding 1, 2, and 3. You want to be a cast member in this movie? Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

There's a lot that they can do. I think it must be really fun and kind of low stakes, low pressure. Plus they have a lot of Instagram followers. They could also hawk some ads. Like I think it's actually a nice life. And look at me. I look at Justin. Does anyone seem more miserable? So these guys seem like happy guys. True. Like well adjusted. Not that I know any of them. No, I know. I feel like Lance Bass is definitely like a happy person. Yeah. Oh, and you want to go do a Broadway show where they sing your songs? Sure. Oh, but no, he's singing Backstreet Boys songs. Yeah.

Oh, yikes. He's Joe. He's insane. Oh, God. How did we just put that together? I don't know. Yeah, because Max Martin did Backstreet Boys songs. I think they sing I Want It That Way. I love that. And so he said they have some bangers like the Backstreet Boys. That's cute. A little crossover. You know what? I like that. The story is like an added layer. Yeah, the story is legs. It's out the dead end. I thought it was. It's not what met the eye. It's not what met the eye.

So Mazel Tov to Lance Bass. No, to Joey. Are you okay? And Lance Bass just for being Lance. Of course. Honestly, for being like a queer icon. Yeah. You know, I don't even remember Lance Bass coming out, but I am like now I like, and now I'm like, well, that's probably a really big deal. But like, I don't even remember him like ever not being gay. I don't think that you would have. Did he come out while the band was still together? Or did he stay in the closet while the band and then when they broke up?

I feel like when they broke up, because I feel like when you think about it, just like One Direction, like I feel like they weren't actually together that long. Yeah. It was just like a powerful number of years. And like the music had such an impact.

But like actually that's a perfect example. Like imagine if one of the members of One Direction came out as gay. Like you're like this teenage girl heartthrob. Yeah. You'd be a lot of pressure. You don't want to give that up. Yeah. Let me look how long was NSYNC together. Same with Spice Girls. Like I don't think. Oh by the way. No but I feel like everybody knows Spice Girls. We're actually together for one year. Like it's so crazy. The amount that they accomplished in such a short amount of time is impressive. Okay.

They were active from 1995 to 2002. Oh, that's long. And then seven years. And then again, 2023 to present. Remember, they like got back together for the movie. Oh, please. Wait, this isn't really fun. Yeah, when Justin Timberlake hit a true low. Activity. How long was, what were you just saying? One Direction. I feel like they were together for like 10 years. Really? They were formed in 2010. Zayn left in 2015. And then. And then when did the rest, how long did they last without Zayn? I kind of liked it without Zayn. Like I thought four was a good amount.

They went on hiatus in 2016 and that was that. All right, so six years. Okay. That was also really interesting when Zayn left and how the band really wasn't impacted that much. Like there was a lot of drama, but I feel like some of their best music came out after that. And like they're, we're still selling out. When Camila Cabello left Fifth Harmony, like they had to break up the band because-

Spice Girls were together for six years. 1994, they formed. Their breakthrough came between 96 and 97, and then they split in 2000. Respectable. That's pretty long. So that seems to be the shelf life for a band such as these. When you're not related. Unless you're like, you know, the Beatles, but then you have your other problems. Right, right. Like, you're annoying. No, like, you guys are best friends, but like, you also like, there's a lot of infighting. Like, bands that are put together like this. Yes. Not like Childhood in the Garage. They don't have history. Yeah. You would

with me. By the way, you know who's still together? A whole lot of herstory. You know who's still together? Lady A. Classic. But no, like in terms of like boy bands. They don't get enough credit. Five Sauce. Five Seconds of Summer is still together. Like, I think they also do their own solo projects, but...

They seem to be like having a good, you know, work life balance. Blink 182. Simple plan. Well, then it's like a lot of these bands took huge breaks. But those aren't boy bands. So like, yeah. So when someone is the drummer and someone's the car payer, we all know our place. When we have like five main singers. Yeah, well. Jonas Brothers. Five seconds of summer, everyone has a place. There's like a band. So we need to think of like. Jonas Brothers, yeah. People who just all sing. That's the difference between like a musical group and a band. Like actually One Direction is not a band.

Right. So let's think of a musical group. What's like the longest running musical group? Like ABBA. ABBA. Oh my God. Twins. Yeah. Okay. But like contemporary, you know, just for the sake of the exercise. Like honestly, you know, well, they each have their own roles, but like, you know, who's out here killing it? Like copacetically, like imagine dragons. Coldplay. But again, they're also, there's like a clear role of who's the front man. Right, right, right.

I feel like Maroon 5 struggled for a little bit. Like, you know. But they're a band. Like, he's the lead singer. Musical, like, groups are, like, not really a thing anymore. Like. Little Mix. No, no. Not. What am I going to say? Even Blackpink. Little Big Town. They are not a band. They're, like, a group. That's true. They all four stand at the front. Yeah. Country music, like, does it pretty well. I love a group. Rascal. I love a group. Rascal Flatts is a band. It's harmony. It's harmony. It sets five, six year shelf life. Yeah. Yeah.

Rascal Flatts was a band, not a name. I just feel like that's up for debate. That's our show, you guys. Fast Five Stories that you definitely needed to know. Especially the last one. Definitely the last one. A little dinner table combo. Maybe you didn't know that it's Fatone, not Fat One. Maybe you didn't know that he'll be singing Backstreet Boys with Charli D'Amelio. On Broadway. So feel free to get your tickets. And Juliet.com.

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