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Happy Wednesday. Oh my god, happy Wednesday. The week is creeping along in a creepy, scary manner. Creepy, scary skeletons and shivers down your spine. But it's hump day. We have a very exciting day today for a multitude of reasons. Of course, the toast. Very exciting. Your toasters. Very exciting. Which I'm having a renaissance with your toasters. Oh, they sell mine. I think I know why. Why?

Because in this time of year where like the celebrities don't do much at times, excuse me, it feels like we might be scraping the bottom of the barrel for things to talk about. And like Dear Toaster is coming in so clutch with like the content. That and also I feel like everybody has been pitting me against Dear Toaster because I said one thing one time about how it just takes a lot of personal battery. And now I feel like I have to prove my love for Dear Toaster. And in doing that, Dear Toaster and I have fallen in love again. Oh.

Oh, okay. So it's kind of inspired a renaissance, if you will. It has, but just like to prove everyone wrong. Like it's your toasters and I against, and Claudia and Bruno and Romeo, against the rest of you. Jackie, that's literally beautiful. The rest of you who are telling me what I like when I never said that. Well, you did say it, but you were confusing in your...

I didn't say it. Well, we've got, like Jackie said, dear toasters. I'm wearing horizontal stripes. And how do you feel? I feel brave. Where is my purple heart? But horizontal stripes are so summery, you know? They are like, I just, and I want to say, this shirt just like sort of showed up at my house. I don't know where it came from. Um,

along with this gorgeous Tucker Nook sweater that I wore and then you wore. And I'm not entirely sure where they came from. I want to say it was in a PR package from Caudalie, which was like so nice, along with this shirt that I never would have bought for myself. Caudalie, you should do a collab with them. I'm waiting. Called Caudalie. Their products are fabulous and so is their name. Yeah. Yeah.

And all these sort of like fabulous items showed up at my apartment and they've sort of given me a personality of my own. Like what am I wearing? This nautical striped blue and white shirt. This is something I would never wear or buy for myself. And I'm taking on another personality. Ahoy, matey. Yeah. I was also just saying to Turt, I feel like this studio, because it's cozier vibes. And I also think because the couch is deeper, it's having...

us dress differently than the last studio. Like in the last studio, because we were in front of a window and the couch was shallow, like you want to wear like a little seam law, but I'm no longer feeling like seam last summer in this studio. I'm feeling more lounge wear. Thank God. Like seamless summer is such pressure. We like finally got a million seamless. Like we spent the whole month buying seamless. The good news is, is I'll wear that stuff all the time at home. It's true. But like people don't talk about the

pressure that's put on a woman by wearing a dress, a seamla, if you will. Yeah. This couch is not seamla friendly whatsoever because we're sitting all the way back. So now I think we need to go back to investing in loungewear. It's time for another merch drop. Just kidding. Oh no. Oh no. I have to invest in more loungewear. Ah,

I know, but I really didn't bring cozies because it's summer, but it's also rainy here, overcast, which is why it's an extra exciting day because I'm making a chili. Thank God. Like the fire is roaring, the rain is raining, and the chili is getting started. And more exciting things. Kitchen related things. Claudia and I are in the middle of a baking vlog. Yeah, that's right. We bake. We started something yesterday. It's been proofing. I actually need to text someone to take it out of the fridge. I put it in the fridge. Did you get the baking soda? I did.

Okay. Cause you know, Jackie and I didn't have, and we were like, we could use baking powder. And I feel like that's how all great flops begin. You just substitute the baking powder for the baking soda. And you're like, where did it all go wrong? Right there. I already made one mistake. And also like the proofing time, like it went in the fridge is coming out. We'll see how it goes. Yeah. But you made me, you made me,

realize that because we're doing it for patreon like we're just doing it to have fun like it doesn't have to be perfect you take it so seriously when i'm like cooking i do take it seriously like i don't want to waste my time i don't want to waste my ingredients and then what people go hungry but no not only that you're feeding your family right like this is just fun it's okay if it's not perfect so that takes the pressure off yeah it does it does and just know like if i'm involved it's gonna go wrong so we might as well just like lean in and have fun mm-hmm

What are we making again? Oh, yeah. Should we spoil it or no? No, don't spoil it. But then also we'll get a little chili in there. It's just going to be like a cooking day, which I love a cooking day. I love a cozy chili fire warring day. You guys know that. But like it's summer. Where is the sun? Oh, Mr. Sun. Sun. Mr. Golden Sun. Please.

Please shine down on me. I want to be 10. That limerick. What's that? Like a jingle? It's a song. It's a children's song. It's so good. Is that still popular? That's like a song from my day. Mr. Sun. It's still in the rotation. Mr. Golden Sun. Uh-huh. Hiding behind the tree. Oh, okay. Verse two. These little children are asking you to please come out so we can play with you. Oh, Mr. Sun. Sun. Sun.

Mr. Golden Sun Please shine down on Won't you shine down on Won't you shine down on me Oh yeah they ate with that Especially like the harmony Like oh so good Totally

And that's how I'm feeling today. Like, oh, Mr. Santana, please shine down on me. Like, I want to swim. It was fun yesterday and we had an indoor day. But to have two days like that in a row, like it's kind of slovenly. It's slovenly. I didn't even shower yesterday because I was like, I didn't do anything. I did shower, but I realized I didn't need to. It was like, I'm saving the water, you know? Yeah. That's so turdy. I care a lot. Turdy for turdiness.

For turtles. I'm kind of like that character in The Politician, Ben Platt, when he agrees to live zero waste. Yeah. And so he saves his own shower water to feed the flowers. Beautiful. That's literally disgusting. The flowers are probably like... He used his shower water to make coffee, by the way. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is worse. Even more disgusting. Use it for flowers. That's actually good. There's nothing more disgusting than bathwater, like used bathwater. There are more disgusting things.

Like, no. But did I tell you my fun fact that I learned on my Facebook algorithm about baths in olden times? You didn't. I feel like I did. Actually, I feel like you did. Hold on. And I'm going to tell you again, because I told you my Facebook, what I get in my feed is just like fun facts, historical facts. I shared that graphic that I got about the UK. But one that I learned is they were teaching like why some phrases are, why do we say those things? Jackie, we have had this exact conversation. I feel like not on the show. I feel like we had it in like at dinner one.

night. Okay. Cause then I, cause then I, yeah. Okay. But we'll have it again. So the phrase don't throw the baby out with the bath water. This is where it comes from back in olden times, like really poor families. They would only get one bath a year. And the first person to take the bath would be the man of the house. Then the sons, then the women, the daughters, and all the way like in age order to the baby. By the time the baby took the bath, it would be like black, a year's worth of grime on an entire family. And so then it was like, you don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water. Cause you might

Lose it. No, and by the way, not everyone like being like, why did they die so young? It's because you're literally bathing babies in like Black Duty. And in hindsight, it should have been the opposite order. Yeah. Okay, well, you just then reminded me of a fun fact I learned on TikTok about where phrases come from. And this phrase was, you know, the wrong end of the stick.

So in olden times, I think it was turlets. They didn't have like... Toilets? Yeah, the turlets. They didn't have, you know, toilet paper, things of that nature. They had like a stick with like something at the end of it to like wipe your ass with. And if you, you would like put it, you would use it and then you would put it back in the bucket. But if you put it back upside down, when somebody went to reach for it, they would reach for the duty side and it's the wrong end of the stick.

Damn. So that's when you're getting like a shit deal, literally. A raw deal. Exactly. I love learning about the origins of phrases. We definitely have this conversation word for word. Unclear if it was offline or online. So if it was online, we apologize for the repetitive nature. But do you want a new one that I just learned that we definitely didn't have on the podcast? I would love a new one. And it's the origin of the word podcast. Hit it. Because it's a combination, a conflagration of two words, which is our favorite thing. Oh, let me think. Like broadcast? Of course. And pod comes from...

So it was a broadcast that you listen to on your iPod. Oh my God. And that's why it was called podcast. And now it has obviously usurped its original term. So does Apple not like own that word?

No, because it was kind of slang. But now that's the word. And then I saw even the word broadcast is two words put together because broad was meant, you know, broad. Wide reaching. To everyone. And then I didn't keep watching the video for where cast comes from. That's the more interesting part. Also, that's another word that it's leapfrogged. It's original meaning of like broad. Now a broadcast is more ubiquitous. So what you're saying, it's giving conjunction, junction. What's your functions?

That's exactly what I'm saying. Well, at the end of the day, it all comes back to the conjunction. And Schoolhouse Rock. And Bruno. Brunus, Brunus. Bruno decided to show up for work today, even though it's raining. He's working so hard. That's beautiful. Because he's just so grateful for this trip. And he's like, how can I help? I'm having the best time with my cousin, brother, Romeo. And like, we just want to help out. I was saying that last night. You know, I don't know how I'm going to go back to my regular life.

Well, I know how I'm going to do it. Like, I'll be fine. But I don't know how Romeo is going to go back. Romeo was born and like very quickly went to the Hamptons and like lives with Bruno. They have such a good time together every night. They like the clock strikes eight o'clock. They're on the couch licking each other from top to bottom. They play. They run. They jump. They laugh. They love each other so much. I don't know. Romeo doesn't know life without a brother. You know, Bruno has four years on this earth by his lonesome. Yeah. Yeah.

When we went back to the city for the Beacon Theater, like we spent one night in that apartment. Like Romeo, seriously, I had to put him on suicide watch. He was like, I hate it here. Yeah. I hate it here. So I will go to secret gardens in my mind. Oh, tick tock idea. Got to make that. It was a quiet, lonely day for Romeo. Correct.

So that's going to be sad. But let's not think about that. We have so much more of Swirly Summer. You know, and let's even just think about today at a glance. We have so much going on, especially within the toast. Blake Lively is a September cover star of Vogue. Is that a story? She is a story. Yes, she is. That is like we'll talk about the interview with what everyone's talking about. But like conceptually, that's really crazy to me. Mm hmm.

And we'll get into it. I don't want to spoil any of my thoughts. Right, right, right. Save them. In terms of Olympics news, Jackie and I last night, you know, every night they show you new sports, new things to, and now that gymnastics is over, it gives us the bandwidth to look into other things. Current obsession, Sydney McLaughlin from New Jersey, runner to the stars. Yeah.

Like literally one of the most gorgeous girls I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Amazing runner. Didn't even look like she was trying that hard in the semis. We went stalking on Instagram. So excited to see what she brings to the finals. She's like married to a former NFL player. They're so sweet. They're so both like so good looking too. Yeah. Oh, are you seeing this viral moment? Now this is where I'm at.

on TikTok when it came to what's the sport where the guy's penis got caught pole jumping so the guy who won pole vaulting yeah vaulting something like that the guy who won it was from Sweden and he's like the world record holder he went to his girlfriend yes and now you're like should he have hugged his mom no no no no I was obsessed with the whole moment and

And then it went viral on TikTok and I kept like watching the videos that I guess it started serving me the content of the athlete and the girlfriend. She's an influencer, like a Swedish influencer. She has 400,000 TikTok followers. She's the coolest style. She's so unbelievably gorgeous in all of her content these past, now I'm getting served all of her old videos. Oh, come with me to the championships, like before the Olympics.

Oh, like you've never seen two better looking people. It's a rabbit hole worth going down. I couldn't tell you their names. I'm not sure yet, but I followed and I'm like, I'm sad. Oh, I love that. Are you okay with him hugging her even though she's only the girlfriend? I am. There was something about the hug that she's more than a girlfriend in terms of like, she's a partner. And yeah. Yeah. I don't even know who else. I don't know what other members of his family were sitting around him. Like,

You know, I love to go in on like the order in which men should hug like the women in their lives. But in this particular scenario, I didn't have one nefarious thought. No, and it was like feeding us as the kids say. We, we, we, they ate. It wouldn't have been a viral moment if he was hugging his dad. No, no. It would have been sweet. Or his sister. It would have been viral, but not this caliber. Yeah, agreed. And people are pairing it with the song, The Alchemy. Where's the trophy? He just comes running over to me.

That's good. Literally. That's good. There are a couple of moments from the Olympics that are giving like smut novel. That is one of them. Yeah. The others, you know, obviously the two tennis players and mixed doubles who are no longer together like.

That's obviously a book waiting to be written. That's tough. Oh, do we have any... Oh, I guess we'll talk about Blake Lively and It Ends With Us. But last night was the premiere. Yeah, we're talking about the premiere. Okay. Because like the thought I had yesterday has like exploded into a full-blown theory. Oh, okay. We'll talk about it more, which is great for the movie, It Ends With Us, which just proves like my point. Mm-hmm. So...

Rising tides, rising all shides. Rising tides, rise all shides. And then also, oh, we watched Olympics gold medal for the American in wrestling. Okay. Wrestling. We don't talk about wrestling enough. Not them never putting it on primetime. Because we won a gold. We won gold. Jewish queen. Like you could not like.

I know. I feel like people don't understand this. I had this thought the other day, like the difference between, cause there are a ton of Jewish Olympians from Israel. The difference between like an American Jew and an Israeli in terms of like physical makeup and just like general stamina could not be more different. Like Israeli Jews are like the toughest. If you know their personalities, like they're snarky. They are so different than like American Jews. Cause American Jews have the luxury of like being American and like living safely. And like,

we just couldn't be more different. So when you think of like typical Jews, like Larry David type, that's very weak, weak stomach. That's very American constitution. So for there to be like an American Jew, she is Israeli. So like her parents, it doesn't really count. It is so unbelievably crazy. You guys have no idea. Like it's shocking. There was another, I was following some of the Jewish Olympians, um, fencing different, different, different,

To see this like athlete, she was jacked. I just couldn't believe it. Like I really couldn't. No, it's so funny. But also I was reading up on her. So many interesting factoids at one that I shared with Claudia. That's also sad. Cause what's her name? Amit. She has like some, some sad things that have happened to her in her life or her brother passed away a few years ago. Actually he was murdered in an attempted robbery. Like,

The story is just a sad story. But her brother's name, I told Claudia, was Asheray, which is just so crazy. Spelled the same way, O-S-H-R-Y. I've never heard that as a first name. And by the way, that could solve our issue from yesterday's episode about your maiden name and how you can carry it on. Asheray is apparently a first name. No, we literally need to cut this out so that when I drop my first baby ever, like...

On the gram, Ashtray Safar. You might drop him. Wait, I'm obsessed. Ashtray Safar. We need to cut this out because I'm literally doing that. I love it. Thank you, Amit. Yeah, that was crazy. And it was spelled the exact same way. He's murdered. He was murdered in a home invasion. Very upsetting story. But Ashtray, we've made it about us. So proud of Amit. She crushed it. She crushed that bitch. Yeah.

And what else did we watch? We watched women's volleyball. It's kind of, it's time for like the, I don't think they're lesser, but obviously NBC and Peacock too. We watched a lot of diving. Diving, synchronized swimming. Like now that gymnastics is over, it like gives space for other sports.

for other sports to get like primetime visibility, even though like, and I like track and field. I like it a lot. It gets all the time on primetime. Like it never bring, and then they are showing us around up throughout the day of like things that are low key, more interesting. I like track and field, but like where is the synchronized swimming? Yeah. The girls that moonwalked, like we didn't get to see their routine. I would love to understand like how they decide which sports they're going to make popular. Let's say there isn't like this huge demand for track and field. It's just kind of been given like the NBC stamp of approval and they just put it on for us. Yeah.

No, I think it's, I think people really love it. No, I do. I love it. And I'm enjoying it. That's a fine one for me. I'm not going to turn it off. Same. But like, I just, I think some of the other sports deserve like a moment. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, then you have to think about like which sports deserve moments taken away. I could name some, but like I'm not going to publicly because like these are Olympians and... No, and they work really hard. And they work really hard. Like yesterday, the women's soccer team beat Germany. That was fabulous. Huge W. When I tell you how boring it was, because that's the thing about soccer, like...

it's like you're lucky if you get like two goals yeah so boring yeah oh my god yeah that's rough and it's such a long game like at olympics it's i mean gymnastics it's like two minute wrestling is for like a four minute round yeah yeah we know about wrestling thanks i mean so do bruno and romeo they're reenacting what they saw oh you guys can't see they're being really cute and if you hear like some sort of like erotic growling just know that that's what it is and we apologize but you're welcome

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Okay, our first story, since we're bursting at the seams to talk about her. Blake Lively is on the cover of Vogue's September issue with an accompanying interview and lots of photos and Hugh Jackman and like a confusing concept that I'm wrapping my head around, like directed by Baz Luhrmann. Yeah, and I just like want to say I hated that the cover said Blake by Baz, like so big. Like it's her cover, like their names were the same size. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah. It's like, it's her cover. She's like having a moment. Well, it always is going to say something like Blake Lively on Colleen Hoover. Yeah, but like Blake by Baz. Yeah.

like i don't know i just didn't like it sorry i will she loves baz so i don't think yeah that's what she said he's her favorite director that's cool so i don't think she's mad about it who would you have direct your vogue cover shoot kenny ortega and like there's no runner up totally i'm not interested i'll turn it down same otherwise i would go for john chew as well that's a good one yeah

Well, she is in Vogue doing a September issue, which is major. So she's the September issue cover star. When you look at it at a glance, like that feels right. No, no. It's a huge deal for her, first of all. And I just like when when I saw her on this, I don't know why to me. I feel like she like exists in a vacuum, like of my interests, like Taylor Swift.

And for her to be on the cover of September Vogue is so major. And I'm really happy for her. And I think it's so cool to see someone. She's having a real peak in her career. Not like the only peak. I think she's had a lot of peaks. She's having a pretty big one right now. And it's cool to see somebody like have a peak, probably the biggest of their career, like later in life after she's had four kids. Like, I think that's really cool. And I feel like I love her and I'm really happy for her. And it's like you thought, you know, you can't ever outdo Serena Vanderwoodson. But like here she is outdoing it. Yeah. Also,

I feel like I haven't looked at her in this light where they said... It opened saying, I've come to meet a movie star, but it's not a movie star who arrives. It's a mother of four. And when I think of her, I actually didn't until today think of her as a movie star because I also feel like some of her projects... And no shade because she's in some amazing things. She has weird selections. She has weird fake movies. She has had...

like actually a very poor track record of choosing movies. Like, and Age of Adaline is literally amazing, but it was like a flop. No, and also her movies that are cited here are like Sisterhood of the Traveling Fans, Gossip Girl, Slay, but then also Age of Adaline and A Simple Favor. And like Age of Adaline we loved, but I didn't think it like,

It's literally the best movie ever made. She was incredible in it, but it is largely considered a flop. And a simple favor, like I thought it was a flop until they got a sequel. So it was a flop, but it had a very small niche following like a culty almost, which is great, but it

also wasn't considered like a blockbuster. And she is a movie star like right now, but I feel her track record like doesn't reflect that. Like I feel like up until yesterday, she was a fake movie star. Let's not talk about the movie with the whale where she's like literally on a rock the whole time. It's not Jaws. What's it called? Sharknado. Yeah, she's like on a rock. Shark Week. Okay, so like when I was in Portugal, it was seriously four in the morning and we couldn't sleep. So we like ordered McDonald's, Taylor, Taylor, Ben, Margot and me. We laid in my bed and watched that movie. It was seriously the dumbest. We were cracking up.

It's the dumbest movie, but literally one of the best movies I've ever seen. I agree with you. Although I think she's really smartly positioned herself now because I feel like for so long we had like those iconic older actresses who like got every movie and it's like every award season. It's like the same crop of like Cate Blanchett, Julianne Moore. And it was interesting to see who like the girlies, the millennial girlies who were going to grow up and become that. And I feel like this sort of

season of her life. But like, Lavi's sort of setting herself up for that. Yeah, like a Reese Witherspoon. Exactly. Jennifer Aniston. And it makes so much sense. But I also think the context in all in which that came before her, and I'm actually like, I'm not even joking. Like, I think the fact that she is literally the most beautiful woman alive. Like, let's not take that for granted. She's a talented actress. She's best friends with Taylor Swift, who everybody is the name on everybody's lips. Her husband is Deadpool, Wolverine, et cetera. Like, all of that, like, rises up. And it's like, she's the obvious choice. And she's been right in front of us this whole time. No, I know. And it's like, we kind of, like,

forgot about her in terms of acting yes for many years yes I love this season of her life I thought the photos were beautiful it's an homage to a movie I've never seen what is it Monte Carlo no it's like not catch me if you can we're going to Monte Carlo what is it it's like catchers catch can it's an old timey movie like catchers catch can no no what is it do they say it in the I'm sure they do but they say a lot of things like Monte Carlo is referenced do they say we're going to Monte Carlo girls like also what about like Casino no no I'll tell you the name of the movie hold on

It was a Liz Woods story. Where I literally learn everything. The cat? No, hold on. Monsieur LeBron? Nope. Catch is in it. To catch a thief. To catch a thief. So she's like playing the girl in that movie and Hugh Jackman is like the... The detective. Also, it's weird that she's taking these lovey photos, even though this looks like a bad Photoshop. It does look like a bad Photoshop. But this photo to me is like weird that he has to look at her like adoringly when that's his best friend's wife.

Yes, but I think it makes it a lot better for these are like professionals and I'm sure she's more comfortable doing that with like someone who probably like knows her kids. No, I feel like it would it's better if it's either her husband who's also an actor and could have been done. But then it would take away. Right. Or a complete stranger. She also shared. So last night was the premiere. And like, I feel like a lot of stories came out of it. She shared. First of all, she was wearing like the actual dress that Britney Spears wore.

So it's like archive. I think it's Versace. Yes. And she talked a lot about how she just like loves Britney as a millennial. Like Britney means so much to her as a woman in this business. Britney means so much to her. And I think that like my first thought was like, oh, you're playing Britney in the biopic. Yeah. I saw Margot Washer. I posted that vis-a-vis Liz Woods. And I was like, oh, let's add her to the list. And also in the picture of Britney wearing this dress from early 2000s, she looks like Blake Lively. Yeah.

But then Blake, I think, left an Instagram comment being like, I would love to, like, any day you ask me, but, like, I don't think I'm right for the role. I think she cited her age, obviously, being a... Well, I think we should have, like, a young Brittany and an older Brittany. Yeah. I loved it. I saw her as Brittany in that moment, but I hadn't, up until that point, thought of, considered Blake Lively for the role. We were thinking, like...

- Teeny bopper, teeny bopper energy. - Yeah, but we were also thinking teeny bopper for it ends with us and we got Blake Lively. So perhaps she can do both. - So the premiere last night, she looked insane. She was wearing Britney's dress. She shared that like this iconic rooftop scene. If you read the book, I think you're familiar with it was actually written by her husband, Ryan Reynolds, and that they like work together so much. Everybody was like, that's so great. For me, the big story was Justin Baldoni. Like first event he's actually been to. And I read everyone's feedback. They were like, he's been sick. He had an infection. He was in the hospital.

Okay, fine. That could explain why he, up until this point, hasn't been doing a press for a movie he discovered, he directed, he bought the rights to and started. Sure. Even though when you look at his Instagram story, which I did yesterday, it does look like he's doing like press for his movie. He started press 36 hours ago. Okay. So yes, that could explain it away. The infection could explain why he hasn't been doing- It doesn't explain the unfollow from Colleen. And Blake. We don't know if Blake was ever followed. She did. I'm sorry. Like she definitely did. Okay.

That doesn't explain things to me. And then a lot of people keep saying this, and I'm sorry, this line of thinking is really pissing me off. People are like, no, the studio's doing this intentionally. They don't want Justin Baldoni to be like the center of the press because they don't want his character to be likable because, you know, he, I'm not going to spoil it, but in his character, it's like a bad guy and he's kind of triggering and you don't want that character.

like he's the first villain to ever be cast in a movie. Like no matter who you play, like I think it's called acting. Yeah. Like that line of thinking is bothering me so much. People are like, no, no, they're doing it to keep the audience safe. Like what are you talking about? Keep the audience safe. They wouldn't make the movie then. No, like I was, I had fallen down such a, like a spiral rabbit hole. That's really crazy. This is them being respectful. Like have you ever seen a movie before? Like,

It's called acting. No, when he was like buzzy and hyped about the movie in the beginning and he was always playing that person. Correct. And he was the face of the movie. No, and like, please, just like, like that's not it. Like, that's not it. And okay, let's say that was it. It's not. Wouldn't, would not make sense as to why Blake and Colleen unfollowed him. Maybe to also show. Oh, please. Like, stop. There's something going on. And, and,

People, people's general reaction has been like, if he isn't a nefarious actor, this would be so shocking because his brand up until this point has been like philanthropist, woman supporter, PJOM. And I'm sorry, it's always those guys. It's always the philanthropist PJOM woman supporter who's an animal. It's the one in the shirt that says the future is here. Yeah.

So, and like, apparently he was the last person that did this. And we were like, it was Olivia wild when she was like, shy, shy, shy. And she's one of those women who's like women, men, feminism above everything. And so she's over here casting abusers with other women. I feel like there was a man recently though, who was literally this maybe I just turned out to be the worst. It's always those guys. Like, so to me, people are like, no, he can't be because he has a podcast with his wife where he talks about respecting women.

No, like it's literally those guys with podcasts that were like, quote unquote, talk about respecting women. It's those guys. Yeah. So I just want to say I have no proof that he did anything to Paris. But if he did, like him being that type of philanthropist is of course incongruous with his brand. No, no. And it's Congress with those guys. Classic. However, those guys pretend to be incongruous with it.

Like I'm just saying that to me is not a defense. If anything, it's proof. I, at this point, I agree. We've seen so much. I'm so skeptical of guys who are like, so like, oh, like I bow for my woman. Really? Like I would love to know what you do behind closed doors. Cause you're definitely the meanest person. Like it's always. Like if you have to say it so much, thou doth protest too much. Okay. So I've definitely fallen down a rabbit hole. So let me tell you what else I found. Okay. Okay.

There's this like one specific clip. I don't know what exactly his podcast is, but he, it's a lot about like marriage relationships. And it was, I think he hosted with his wife and he, um,

was talking about his their anniversary and he like gave this like speech on the podcast about like she's so amazing and the reason they are you know where they are is all because of her and like you know when he fucked up and when he it's like she leads with forgiveness and he was just harping so much on like on how forgiving forgiving and gracious she is it's like what'd you do right and so that's different than like i never take out the trash and she forgives me right the clip had been viral initially being like oh look how cute and then like with a critical eye people are like what are you apologizing for like what'd you do yeah so

There could be nothing there, but I am like so down this rabbit hole. I'm telling you. Like something's going on. It's like...

There could be nothing there. So we have to hold space for that. But like also another is like where there's smoke, there's fire. Jackie, there can't be nothing there because Colleen Hoover unfollowed the guy who bought the rights to her book. Like there can't be nothing there. But that could also be, that could happen to anyone because like making your book into a movie is so personal and it's very possible to get your feelings hurt along the way. Even if it's not because he's like turned out not to be a feminist. Right.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's a very, like, they're going to change things and that's so personal to you. So that could happen with anyone. No, and I think a lot of people are just, like, choosing to see the Justin Baldoni in this world that they want to see because people love him from that show. I have no stake in this game. Like, I just showed up and I see him with his man bun and I'm like, oh, you have a podcast. Like, there's some,

I'm saying, I'm seeing this through like an extremely critical eye. I'm definitely biased, but I think everybody else who like loves him is also biased too. Right. They see him as like this hot, you know, Gina's man. I feel not biased in this because I don't have an image of him. Like I don't think of him. So I'm going off of what I've seen and what you're telling me. And there's, there's definitely something. Thank you. Something. Something. Something.

So back to Blake Lively really quickly. I like only recently learned that her and her husband were like so tight with Hugh Jackman. I learned it at the football game. I think with everybody else, right? I always knew that like Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman like had this thing because they're always on social media like pranking each other. Right. And it's like a Deadpool Wolverine thing. I've never like looked into it, but I've always known they've had this like public relationship. And I

And I do want to say, while I think this has been an amazing press tour for Blake Lively, for me, like my own personal experience, I think this has been actually a really great press tour for Ryan Reynolds. I have always like eye-rolled him. Like I find, up until this point, I had found him like genuinely insufferable and I never understood how like Taylor could like him so much because he's like to me like always like, girl,

his wife out of photos, like jokes with his wife, like shut up. Like, I don't know. His whole shtick like forever really bothered me. And I read a blind item like a million years ago that I never forgot, which was basically, and this is totally alleged and like probably not true, but the blind item was that like he was really controlling and that whatever Blake Lively like wore, acted in, breathed, like he had to have full approval of. And like, it kind of made sense. I'm like, well, her movies all flop. Like maybe it's because he's choosing them.

I don't believe that to be true anymore, but like, I feel like that really colored the way I saw him for so long. And now like watching him, he's been like such a standup husband, I think in this press tour and not in a way like that, Justin Baldoni would be, do you know what I mean? Or do you disagree? I don't know. I, I,

at a glance I'm like they're so like I I think they're so sweet and all the Taylor stuff is really great so for the last year it's been like all positive Ryan Reynolds but I haven't like heard him speak or anything and then I saw that he interviewed the guy who plays Alice and at first I saw just that he did that I didn't watch the interview and then like a clip of the interview started and he started talking I was like no okay so it's like a skit it wasn't like a real interview no I

No, I know, but just, he started talking. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. You know, he's not for me. He's just, I didn't even hear the interview. He just started talking. Yes, he is not for me, but my like dislike of him has definitely gone down severely.

I've never really thought about how I feel about him. I've always disliked him. Like I've always found Van City Reynolds, like his Instagram shit. Like shut up. I have found his shit like so fucking annoying. But like now, I don't know. I'm kind of liking it. As a father and husband, I agree. It's like a better light to see him in.

Yeah. And there like is this clip that has gone viral on TikTok like a thousand times of this speech Blake Lively made. I forget he was winning some award or whatever. And she was the one who gave it to him. And it was such a sweet speech. Yeah about how he's always like running home. He comes home in costume. Whether it's across the street or across the world like he comes home like all he wants to do is get home to his family. I loved it so much. Yeah. That really like also was a catalyst in the changing of my opinion of him. Yeah my opinion it's in flux right now. Yeah. And also like his obsession and like

like the way he's so down to clown, like with Taylor Swift and like put her music like in his, you know what? Like I think I might, and you know, it's hard for me to say. I think I might be, I might've been wrong about him. No, no, no, no. He's definitely a good guy. Rising tides raise all shines. But I think unless we're like watching his movies and the things that like his art, we're not going to stand because it's not for us. It's not for us. Even though, remember when I said, I feel like my husband watches Deadpool a lot, low key.

Since I've said that I have come in like literally eight separate times. He's watching it and I said it to him I was like, oh and he was away that weekend I was like either way I said on the show and I realized it's true like you kind of like watch Deadpool I'm obsessed like yeah, and he was like, oh my god. He's like I was watching it on the plane Oh, oh something me. I also haven't spoken about just really briefly is the guy who plays Alice old Alice and

Brendan Sklenar. He's from 19, what's that one? 23? Oh my God. He was so good in that. He is so hot. Like I think that was a perfect, like I'm so excited. I'm excited too. We're going to try and see it. We are going to try and see it this weekend. This has been like a

fun journey. This has been a fun moment and I'm thankful to everyone who made it happen and I do also need to say like I feel like we gave it a hard time at points. Those pictures? Impeded its journey. Yeah. But perhaps we were wrong and we'll be able to call it when we see the movie which I feel like we were wrong based on everything I've seen. No I think we're gonna love it. Margot Walsh right like we said said she saw it said it was amazing and I pretty much like everything she likes. Yeah. Except when she don't like Amy Schumer's movie I feel pretty but she was she couldn't understand it. No no no no.

Like only real ones understood that movie. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. A hundred percent. That's literally the best movie ever made. It seriously is. It seriously, like if you could have made a movie of my innermost thoughts, like it would have been, I feel pretty. Yeah. Not enough. She doesn't get enough credit for that movie. Trainwreck is like her big movie and everybody's like trainwreck. But like to me, I feel pretty was just as good. And depending on the season of your life, like better at times. Maybe not even better, but truly more relatable.

Yeah. Like I think like I wish that I feel pretty got the Barbie treatment like the way it was a girlhood girlhood like that's fucking I feel pretty bitch. Okay. Agreed. That's why Amy Schumer should have been Barbie. By the way, the older you get maturing is realizing Amy Schumer should have been Barbie and that's not a clown on Margot Robbie. She was amazing. And that the storyline should have been like elf Barbie elf like cast out of Barbie land for being an outcast. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It writes itself. It writes itself.

Okay. Are you ready for our next story? I am. I feel like I had one more thought about this, but I can't remember it. So let's just move on. Well, we could always circle back because we're talking about the teeny boppers. Sabrina, it's the summer of Sabrina, according to Variety Mag. She is their cover girl this year. She's talking about hitting number one on the charts, getting advice from her best friend, Taylor, and what Barry Keoghan really thinks about her lyrics. So all of those things are really great things that she's talking about. There was one point of the interview that really is

stuck out for me because one theme that they're talking about which is I think something that you and I always talk about where she said she feels like a new artist but this is her sixth album right which is like sort of this weird place to be in it's very Disney Channel coded it's very Disney Channel coded and she's talking about some of her early records you know why and this is what she said quote for the people who love those early records and listen to them I love you for that oh no

But I personally feel a sense of separation from them. That's fine. Largely due to the shift in who I am as a person and as an artist pre-pandemic and post-pandemic. So she's talking to me. Thank you, Sabrina. And I think that's totally fair. She's grown up. Those are like frontal lobe years that happened in between. So she's changed who she is as a person. The pandemic changed who everyone is. And also, I think the...

of the incident with Olivia and Joshua that like completely changes and hardens you as a person. So I think the combination of those three things, yes, I can understand why, you know, too young no longer represents Sabrina and now she's in a please, please, please era.

For sure. But she was also just like in a box. She was very limited in what she could put out. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't even write those songs. Like when you're on a Disney contract, like you just do what you're told. Yeah. So while I think those songs like musically are very great, do I think they're like Sabrina's innermost thoughts? No, like I don't think she wrote them. No. And I do think her last album, which was Emails and that had like, just because I liked a boy, Sabrina.

Skin, she said like that sonically. It's like the little sister to this next album that's coming out. Short and sweet, she said. It's like the hot older sis. She also said she finished the album before Espresso and Please, Please, Please came out. And she's so glad that she did because like perhaps the reception of those songs, one, would have put so much pressure. And two, might have changed what she did. She might have been like, oh, if people liked...

Let me do more of that. That's a me latte. Yeah, me latte. Yeah, latte me. This is like a complete work of art that's not influenced by her success. And for that, I'm so excited. Me too. She's also just someone who's having such a moment and I'm so happy for her. And I think this must be how people feel about Chapel Roan. Like,

For me, Sabrina is somebody who's been on my radar for, like I remember in college, in my internship, listening to her music. Like she's been on my radar and it's like, it's really nice to see somebody who you think is talented, like finally getting the success that they deserve. And for Chapel Roan, like that's something, a total blind spot for me. I've never heard of this person up until last week. But like she just had the biggest, you know, daytime performance at Lollapalooza, like having record success. I'm sure she'll be on like the next season of SNL. But isn't she like a true new artist? Yeah.

Kind of, but like people have been knowing Chapel for many years. She had like an internet following. Many years. Yeah. How many albums? I don't know how much music she's actually released. That's a very good question. And I also want to see how old she is. Like you can only have done it for so long. She's I think a similar age to Sabrina. Okay. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. And so like those people must be having an amazing day, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I just like, I'm familiar with some of the music.

H-O-T-T-O-G-O. And it slaps, it slaps, but it's not, I feel like it takes a lot of energy to become like a new fan of someone. And I'm currently just not in the era of my life where I have energy. No, and you told me about Chapel Run on the show. I had never heard of her.

her and I know that if I came to her organically like I would have thought it was Chappelle Roan you would have thought it was Chappelle Roan for sure and so now I'm like waiting for it to organically hit me because I feel like now I notice it because you told me about it but I don't know that I would have gotten there yet yeah but it's also interesting because has it organically hit you no

H-O-T-T, like once you said that, I would have been like, oh yeah, I've heard that from people's like Instagram stories and stuff. Right. But no, I don't like walk down the aisle and CVS and it's playing. No, she's like not have, like she's having crazy unprecedented success, but within like a bubble of the internet, like it hasn't led over to like radio and mainstream, which I find so shocking because usually like,

mainstream these days takes their notes from TikTok. So I don't know like what's stopping. She definitely feels like, 'cause I see those tweets all the time, people being like, "I'm at that age where I don't know who Chapel Road is." Like why hasn't she bled over yet?

I don't know. But I think if she keeps doing what she's doing, it will. Yeah. It will. But like you can't walk down the aisle at CVS without hearing Espresso. Like everyone knows Espresso. I love Sabrina. Like I'm so happy for her. It's the summer of Sabrina. And someone was quoted in the article who works with her that was like, everyone who works with Sabrina like can see how talented she is and that like,

she is it. And it's so nice that like after all this time, like the world is seeing that, but they say it was only a matter of time because she's so genuinely talented. What did she say about tailored? Oh. And the other thing I wanted to say about Blake Lively is I think it's very cool how pretty much every single time she's being spoken to by anyone, like there's always a question about Taylor Swift. And I actually don't think that bothers her at all. Like, I think she like really loves the lore and the Swifties and like appreciates the value that that brings to her life, but also to her career. And I think it like must be annoying. Like,

every single time there is a question same with Sabrina and I don't think it bothers her no and she always has great answers yeah she's like she was asked yesterday like her favorite song her favorite song and she said literally that's the hardest question like I couldn't even tell you I'd have an easier time telling you my favorite child like that's funny that is funny so Sabrina was talking about Taylor and about how apparently when she did skims and then she said that she asked Taylor then Taylor haters were like asking for permission to do a campaign is crazy my god

So she said, quote, she's such a gangster with all of it. No matter what people are saying, everything that I've ever seen her tackle, she's done so with grace. The post about me having to ask for her permission. No, she's one of my best, best friends. And we grab dinner or text and catch up like you would with your best friend. She said, it's so cool for me to get perspective on this whole process from her and the community of artists that I feel I'm close to, to get advice from them on stuff that you can't just ask the internet. We're always playing each other our music. And whenever I start to think, maybe I'll get on Twitter and say something about this. I'm always like, maybe I'll write a song instead. Yeah.

got it got it yeah so just good friend oh i also we had spoken less earlier in the week that suki is opening for taylor era's london we didn't talk about it on the show oh we didn't well suki waterhouse um is opening for taylor shift in wembley and do you know who else is and i just want to say i fucking called that shit i saw it but i forgot maizey peters yeah that's right

I just want to say, like I said, I said that she was going to. Oh, that she was going to open? Yeah. Like I said that. Cool. Congrats. I'm sure you can go find it. Like I said it. Congrats. Just edits the list of things I was writing about. It's a very short list. And you know who should be opening for Taylor? Me. Mimi Webb. Yes. We had this conversation. We had it on Patreon 2023 at a glance where I was sharing Maisie Peter songs that were my favorite.

Oh, for sure. Yep. And I said, she's going to open for Taylor. And did I say Mimi should? Well, I stand by it. Yeah. And just like I waited for Sabrina to have her flowers. I sit here waiting for Mimi and her flowers. She sat. I'm sat waiting.

She sat waiting. Are you ready for our next story? Or do I need to take away my shoe from Romeo before it's going to get destroyed? Romeo's been eating your shoe for about 10 minutes. I knew. I didn't say anything. If we want to keep the boys at bay, I'll get you a new pair of shoes. You kind of have to give the shoe over. Okay. As long as you get me a new pair of shoes because he's been eating them all of summer. Let him have it. Did you guys see during the ad break how insane they were being? They're both separate. They're both at peace. You just have to give the shoe up for the cause. Okay. Okay.

Our next story, a little new throwback news. Paris Hilton joins a hot dog costume wearing Nicole Richie to film the Simple Life reboot at a Sonic drive-in. So pictures have emerged of Paris and Nicole getting back to work on the Simple Life reboot. The duo, who call themselves Silly and Billy on the reality show, put a chic spin on the fast food chain's blue uniform with Hilton sporting a pair of Barkley silver heels and

And Nicole wearing some cute pumps as well and styling their uniforms as mini dresses. So the girls are back. We knew they were going to be back. We're

Working at Sonic. By the way, I love their first top being like a, first of all, totally branded. Love that for Sonic. But also fast food. Like that's actually a really hard job. And I think like a lot of the machines are really confusing. So I think entertainment wise, like this will be very funny. Yeah. I love, and also Danny Pellegrino was there. I don't know what his involvement was, but I saw paparazzi pictures. Like he was like, like their manager or something. I'm not sure what the, like,

Set up was, but he was there. It'll be interesting to see the format. I feel like the thing that made the show great, the secret sauce was the chemistry between the two of them. And because they were like such good friends. They're like not anymore. I know. I feel like they're good. They're on good terms. Friends again, but like.

to that level of closeness, I don't know. No, and also they are like mom's business owners. They have like a lot to lose now. What was so iconic about them was like the reckless nature in which they lived their lives. Like they were just like driving cars 100 miles an hour, wearing tiny skirts, like making out with boys from the middle of nowhere. Like they didn't give a flying fuck.

Now it's like this show is a part of, but like she has this huge Paris, obviously DJ internet persona, like this huge career. Nicole has this huge fashion empire, like, and they're both moms. Like, I just don't think it's going to be like what it was, but for the sake of nostalgia, like it'll be fun. But if you ever really, truly want to feel something,

it's on prime, the simple life, like do that. Like that's a journey worth taking. It won't be what it was. They're not going to be doing those things, but I think there's room for it to still be like good and fun. And they are both like funny, interesting people. So they don't have to be doing that in order to be funny and interesting. No, they don't. We'll see. Oh, Romeo's taking the second shoe. So I'll just send me a link. One, two shoe. Yeah. Gone.

Okay. Enjoy Rome. He's got good taste. He didn't take my crap from Amazon. He took your nice ones. Yeah. He loves an UGG. Listen, those UGGs were like on their last legs anyway, not to be a bitch. Like they're like brown now. They were once purple. No, I got them like six, eight months ago. How often do you get new slippers? When they're from Amazon weekly. When they're UGG though. Oh, I, I really treated myself cause my, all my other slippers were worn down. So I was like, I want a pair of like cozy slippers and yeah, I've worn them a lot, but I wasn't going to get a new pair. Like,

maybe in the winter. - Okay, I didn't know that they were UGG. - Oh yeah, but they're already wet on the inside. So many times I've put my shoe into my slippers here in this house and they're wet, thanks Ro. - You think it was Ro? Like how do you know? How do you know? - It's really, yeah. - Like how do you know it wasn't duck? - It's true. Me pouring water in my slippers. - Literally, like how do you know? You don't know for sure that it was Ro, ma'am. - We don't know, we'll never know. - So looking forward to this, where, did they say where we're gonna be able to watch it?

I feel like when we announced it, that it was coming back, we had announced where it was going to be. I feel like it's Peacock too. I feel like every streaming service like has a moment, you know? And Peacock like was kind of slow to start. They didn't really have much. And Max, I think was it for like a really long time. Max was really having a big moment. And now with Love Island, with the Olympics, I think, you know, Peacock is having, Traders. It's the summer of Peacock. I'm happy for them. But I do think it's not like,

You only get one. I think it comes in waves. Like sometimes Hulu's having a moment. Kardashians tell lies. But I think with the newer ones, like to submit yourself as like a real stream. For so long, I felt like Peacock was like, it could get shut down at any minute. Like it was so like whatever. Now I feel like because they had a moment, like they're cemented. After Max had a moment, I was like, good for them. No, I don't feel like Peacock would get shut down because it's tethered to NBC. So as long as like NBC is making content and doing something, like Peacock has a leg to stand on. But yeah, it's been a slow start. But the best things are. So true.

You don't want to be a flash in the pan. No, you don't. No. Are you ready for our fourth story? Yeah.

Justin Timberlake had a vape pen, Rolex, and $300 cash at the time of his DWI arrest. Police report shows. Okay, wait, what kind? Justin Timberlake's pockets were full when he was arrested on DWI charges in the Hamptons earlier this summer. After refusing to take a breathalyzer, he was placed in handcuffs, put into the backseat of a squad car, and taken to the Sag Harbor Village Police Department, where the responding young officer took inventory of his property. He was reportedly in possession of a vape pen,

a pricey Rolex, a gold ring, and a wallet that contained $306 in cash during his arrest. Oh, this is so interesting to me. Yeah. Like he obviously didn't know he was going to get arrested. So what does Justin Timberlake, like a huge pop star, what does he bring out with him like to go get drinks? This like tracks nothing out of the ordinary. I'm dying to know like flavor brand of the vape. I have to assume it was a tobacco, like nicotine vape, because if it was pot, like is that illegal in the state of New York? And I don't think that would be called...

A vape pen? I think it would. Really? I feel like they would have said marijuana. They totally would have said marijuana. Right. So I think we can safely assume like a Miley, a Juul. Yes. Yes. What do you think he smokes? No, because also if he was high, that would have been in this. Right. Right. Right. What do you think he smokes?

I feel like he does like tobacco flavored Juul. You think he charges it like in his phone charger? Yeah. I don't think he does. I think he's disposable. I think he's wasteful. Yeah, I guess. I think he's a single use. So what are the kids, like they do like puff bars. What's that new one? I'm like not caught up, but it's literally like a big thick rectangle. Yeah. Like a tiny little. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, he might do like Smilers. People like, is that what it's called? They throw them to me. When we perform our sold out shows, the Gizmo, Girls Swirling Night Out, last one's coming up August 17th at the Atlantic City Borgata Casino. Can't wait to see you there. Tickets available at thetoastpodcast.com. I don't think he does Stiggs. I feel like only we do Stiggs. Yeah, by the way, I wasn't even going to bring up Stiggs. Stiggs are not popular. Yeah, like how do we even get introduced to them? Oh, I'll tell you. I was at a birthday party of Ben's friend. His name was, it was Victor's party.

And I was in my jewel era and one of Ben's friends, I think it was like this guy, James, like who I'm not like super tight with.

He like was telling me about it and like it was over. But I think also because when Juul was going down and they were taking away the flavors, the fruity flavors, then you had to find your flavor in another company. So I think Stig had a flavor that you like. Mango. Mango. Yeah. And there you have it. It's like literally so weird that they had to like shut down Juul and their fruity flavors, just like this one company. But you can go and get a fruity vape anywhere else. You know what we need to add to my list of biggest regrets? What?

Not investing in Juul? Yeah. Well, why? You would have then lost a lot of money. No, I would have. I'm a conservative investor. Like once it hit, I would have like sold. So like I have to go find the email like a million way before Juul was popular. I want to say like three years before Juul took off. I got a PR package with all the pods and I didn't even smoke it. I was like, what is this?

And it was right when electric cigarettes had like become a thing. And they emailed me. They wanted to work with influencers in exchange for equity. They didn't have like a lot of money. And I was like, girl, no, ew. No, you can't even regret that because you would never, there's no world where you would have said yes to that because any box that shows up at your door, like you're not interested in equity. I need to find the email. Even though now if I search like Jewel in my email, I probably have like a thousand things. Yeah, because it's always in the news. Rip Jewel. Rip Jewel. I just, I feel like they were like singled out. Don't you feel? Like in hindsight? Yeah.

You can get fruity flavored vapes anywhere. Yeah, I just searched Jewel in my email and I found like a piece of hate mail I got. Somebody must have found my personal email. Her name is Claire. Subject line, Jewel, all caps. You lost a follower. How could you post an Instagram about Jewel? How could you take money from big tobacco? I literally didn't. The deaths of youths who start smoking because you posted that meme are on you. Wow. Okay, Claire, like you're going to be okay.

I don't think she's going to be okay. I don't think she is too. I think that email points to like something wrong. Yeah. Something wrong with Claire. That's really crazy. Yeah. Thanks, Claire. Are you ready for our next story? Our fifth and final? No. It's a little book news. Are you? No.

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It's her own damn story and she's going to share it. Liza Minnelli said of her memoir, which will be published in spring 2026. Okay. Thanks for the, uh,

Advanced. For the lead time. Two years. Liza Minnelli is ready to put pen to paper. On Tuesday, Grand Central Publishing announced its acquisition of a memoir by the EGOT icon. She opened up about entertainment tonight about the memoir, which is set to be published in two years. Is it one part or two? So far, it's one part. Quote, today, I opened my heart and my lungs to shout about a story which has never been told. My. Read about it here. Me. And this will have to hold you until we publish when it all comes true. True.

I just want to say if Liza Minnelli can write her book in one part, so can Cher. Sorry, not to be a hater. I'm not to bring Cher into this. I agree. The memoir will be a candid review of her life, both professionally and personally. Her extraordinary life story begins with a childhood in the spotlight, being the daughter of actress Judy Garland and director Vincente Minnelli.

Her career spans over six decades with notable breakout successes in Cabaret and Liza with a Z. The memoir will also examine raw moments of her life, including her four marriages and struggles with substance abuse. Oh, damn. I didn't know that. Yes. I mean, I'm sure she has an insane story. Who's her mom? Judy Garland. Okay. Wizard of Oz. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I just saw this funny clip of Joan Rivers on some late night show. And she was like, what do you... The interviewer was like, what do you want your...

grandson to be when he grows up. And she said gay because who else is going to care that I was friends with Judy Garland. And it was so funny. And I get, okay, like this is a blind spot for me. This is like an era of Hollywood that I feel like Olivia's obsessed with. Yeah. I don't know. Olivia's obsessed with like Judy Garland, not Liza Minnelli. Right. Right. And I know she's like a gay icon cabaret star for me, like arrested development.

Lucille 2. Okay. Arrested Development, but also Sex and the City 2 movie. Oh, what does she do there? She performs at the wedding of Stanford and Anthony. Oh, okay. That's so funny. And like, that's like my breadth of knowledge when it comes to her career. And I know like she has a very storied, like iconic career. So I actually think the book is great for her. No, and...

I feel the same way about her. Definitely a blind spot. I don't feel bad about it. She's before our time. And I feel like she's someone whose book I would read and then have like an immense appreciation for her and like take me down a rabbit hole of all these things that I didn't know. A la Priscilla Presley's book. Yep. Carrie White, the hairdresser from the 80s. Her... 60s. Also, when I think of her, I think of that iconic Twitter account, Liza Minnelli Outlived. And anytime like a major world event happens, they'll say Liza Minnelli Outlived. Yeah.

Or if somebody dies, Liza Minnelli outlived Betty White. Yeah. It's really funny. Well, she's 78.

Like Betty's like not that old. I don't know why I thought she was like a hundred. Yeah. And then does she have a famous spawn Liza Minnelli? Oh, I thought it was like a three generation. Oh, like Priscilla, Lisa Marie energy. No. And like Billy Lord. I always get their trio. Like Carrie Fisher. That's like a similar era of Hollywood. Yeah. The three of them. I'm always like, so who's Liza's child? I don't think she's famous.

No, if she even has, they're not coming up on her IMDb mini. So no. Interesting. Well, this is a good, good book. It's kind of like book season. I feel like everybody's announcing books. Yeah, I like that. I like books. I like to read. Speaking of, Redhead's episode finally dropped. Paradise Problem. Check it out. One, read the book. It's just a great swirly summer read. And two, if you have no intention of reading the book, listen to the episode because we're just like fun and we're having a good time. And it's our last episode together.

Till October because we're taking a month off for Dana's mat leave. Because you support women in the arts. We do and we support working women and working mothers as we always have. And you always will. Yeah. I don't think that's up for debate. Well everybody be sure to check that out. And the fabulous news in addition to the Redheads episode finally dropping is that the

Episode for today is not over because we have Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jax and I try to help the swirlies out, whatever it is that they're going through. We try to give our best advice. We think we're, you know, sound of mind individuals. And it's always good to hear from, you know, a third party perspective who is sound of mind. Yeah. So if you ever want to write in to us, we do it every Wednesday. We take three submissions. It's deartoasters at gmail.com. That should be the name of the segment, not Dear Toasters, but a third party perspective who is sound of mind. With particular interest in the matter. Yeah.

Um, the email account is dear toasters at gmail.com. You can write to us there. You can head over to our website, the toast podcast.com. There's an anonymous submission box there. That's also where you can find tickets to our live show in Atlantic city. So are we, you know, I'll save that one for last actually. Um, okay. Ready for this? Yeah. I'm 28 and I plan a co-ed indoor soccer team every Wednesday night. I've been on the same team for the last six years. Different people come and go, but the most part it's the same.

Yeah.

Fuck the society that I even have to mention that. Even more weird is that his wife's brother plays on the team also.

I don't know what to do. The easy answer is just to quit the team and never come back. But I feel like this is why so many women never speak up and men get away with shit like this. And I feel like I need to do something about it. A hundred percent, especially cause you've been here for six years and you like doing this team. This is so fucked up. My first question is, is like, is there any sort of superior who you can raise this to? Right. Is there like a way to get him kicked off the team? No. Or like, or someone have someone else handle it and someone else speak to him. Cause I totally understand like you not wanting to confront him yourself. It's like, it's,

so scary. Okay. But I feel torn. Cause like, yes, they shouldn't be able to get away with this. And like, you have to speak up for, you know, all the women who can, but at the end of the day, like you're also putting yourself in danger. And like this man's obviously a freak. And so if you get him kicked off or like you tell everyone, like this is the type of freak who would retaliate and like your safety is paramount, you know? Yeah. But I think you have to do something, especially like he's married and there's a brother on the team. Like, I think you need to bring it up

To like everyone on the team. And then everyone goes and talks to him. Yeah. Or if there's like someone higher up that you could talk to. Or this has nothing to do with your work, right? No, it's just a co-ed indoor soccer team. That's so weird. He's so creepy. No, but also like I feel...

Like, you should... Like, men like this think they're preying on people who are, like, vulnerable and weak. But you should literally just go up to me. Like, why are you taking photos of me? Like, be ballsy like that. And who has the authority to kick him off the team? Because he shouldn't be on the team after this. Like, that's, like, the hard part about being an adult. It's like, there's no infrastructure. There's not, like, a principle. Yeah. So that's why you have to get your...

That's why you have to get your teammates like all on the same page, especially like this one girl saw it and she can like say what she saw. So you need to talk to the other people. You should all confront him and get him kicked off the team. And then also the wife's brother should also know that her husband is doing this. I don't even know what he's doing with the, like, what is he doing? It's not good. There's no good outcome. No. If you do take that route, which I agree with, like then also like just be aware that there like might be like a freak who he is a freak.

like mad at you and like, you know, lock your doors, things like that. Yeah. Like you don't like, it's such a tough situation because you don't want to put someone in the position of like wanting to retaliate, you know? Of course. But he, what is he doing with these pictures? I don't know that she said they're not even like a freaky situation to think about. So tell everyone I would, I would have a meeting with the entire team and ask them to like stand behind you and confront him, kick him off the team. And yeah,

Take it from there. And that's that, you know? But I agree. Wife's brother, like this is a person who's married too. Like she's got to know. A hundred percent. She has to know. She's got to know. This one's so funny to me. Okay. Hi, Jackson Claude. Well, this part isn't funny. Sorry. Back in November, my boyfriend of three and a half years cheated on me. I moved out immediately and out of guilt, he offered to pay rent at a new place for me and my dog. It was officially an Airbnb, but he's been paying month to month directly to the owner ever since. I no longer speak to him and I have no clue how long he intends to pay my rent

for my living. Do I reach out to him or just keep coasting? I get anxiety thinking that I could be displaced at any moment. Also, I'm almost ready to start dating again. So do I have to disclose to future partners that my ex pays for my house? For the record, it's a two bedroom with a yard and four times the amount of something I could really afford on my own. Thank you.

Okay, I know other people would be like, I don't want to live somewhere. I feel like we always read that in books. Like, I don't want to take your money. Take the money and run. And in all the months that he's been paying for your rent, like, I hope you've been saving your rent money so that if one day he just doesn't pay it anymore, that you can at least pay that month.

And find the time to find a new place. I think you should totally stay there and enjoy. And you can date. That's awesome. Yeah. Once you're in a serious relationship and like a real, you know, boyfriend, girlfriend situation, one, you could either tell your partner that this is a situation or then you could be like, it's cut it off. I've moved on. But yeah, like awesome. Can I ask you a question? Like this happens. You get cheated on by your boyfriend three and a half years. There's nothing worse. But then he does this. Like, do we forget him?

Is he asking for, if he, is he looking for forgiveness? I feel like he's doing this because he feels bad, but does he even want to be together? Or did he cheat on you with someone who he's not with? No, I don't think he wants to be together. I think he like what the vibe that I got is like, he really, really inconvenienced and hurt you. And like, how can you make up for that? You really can't. But like, this is, this is significant. Yeah, no, I could forgive someone. That doesn't mean I'm going to get back together with them. No, I don't mean, I don't mean, I mean like, do you like this person hurt you and you're not going to get back together with him, but do you forgive them for the thing that they did? Yeah. I,

I think so. As long as they're also, there are other actions, like they're apologetic, they feel bad. They're not running around town spreading rumors. Yeah. I think that you could forgive this person. Also, it's better for you to forgive them and not hold on to that anger. And no, this is a kind of major, like, yeah, this is a power move. If you've ever cheated on someone and you feel so bad that you don't know what to do with your guilt, like you don't want to get back with them, but you don't want them to be sad. Like pay their rent.

Yeah. That is extremely generous. That's awesome. So take it as far as you can. Save your money so that when the day comes, you're not out on your tail. Save your money. And that you can just pay the Airbnb for the month while you look for a place and, you know, say that was a nice, that was a nice place to live for a while. And who did you use to date? Moneybags. Right. Paying two rents. And this is like a massive spot.

Love it. Maybe you should get back together with it. No, I'm kidding. I'm totally kidding. Okay. Our third and final is an update from something we read pretty recently about the girl. Okay. I'll just read you her original story.

She started dating this guy two months ago and tonight before leaving to go hang out with him, she pooped. He picked her up. They went to a bar with her friends and then came back to her apartment. He went to the bathroom right when they got there from the living room. She heard a flush and then she heard him peeing and then flushing again. So clearly something was in the toilet that he had to flush before peeing. Regretfully, she asked, why did you flush? And he said,

And he said, no reason. And now she can't stop thinking about the fact that she forgot to flush when she went to the bathroom while getting ready. And he definitely saw her poop. Do I ask him about this? Do I need to lie, convince myself? And we basically told her like, shut the fuck up.

You can ask him when you're married. Yeah. And there's a world in which he did something that he needs to flush first. Yes. And so here's her update. Update from the Swirly who recently learned that she has serious toilet flushing issues. Unfortunately, I didn't get to wait until we were married to ask if he saw my duty in the toilet because my dumb ass forgot to flush again. Luckily this time it was just pee and I,

the topic came up. Anyways, to make a long story short, I did indeed forget to flush that time and he did see what we all deep down knew that he saw. On the bright side, he didn't make me feel embarrassed about it in the slightest and it validated that he truly is a PJOM and the PJOM that I thought he was. No, so he's really mature. I'm happy for you that you've met him. Like, I'm not mature enough. No, no, I'm mad at you. Like, I can't, I'm

I'm in shock. Although I do want to say sometimes in relationships, what is the book that I read? They turned it into a movie with Lucy Hale, The Hating Game. She got so violently sick with this guy that she was like into and she's like throwing up diarrhea and like he's taking care of her because he like went to med school but he dropped out. It can bring you together. It can. Like bodily functions are horrible. They're seriously the most embarrassing. Like I know married women, one of them sitting right next to me who won't even fart. Like I know. But

It does have potential. Like this is a person who hopefully is going to see you give birth. I totally agree. But the way she described their relationship, it seemed like very early days. They were like, they weren't even like boyfriend, girlfriend. They were just dating two months. I don't even know if he knew that he liked her. So why would you like stick around to find out when you've seen someone's duty? But it's because like he's mature and mature.

It didn't phase him. And I'm so happy that there's people like that. So this could have gone either way. And I'm really happy for you that it gone the way of like, you realize this guy really likes you. He's super mature. We love that. Just know like this could have gone so poorly. Just know. Just know that this could have gone really poorly and let it be a lesson to like fucking flush. Okay. Like unacceptable. Unacceptable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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