Sarah: Raw Interview
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It's Britt. If you just found my show, you're going to want to start at the first chapter. There are a lot of spoilers coming up in this episode. While we're busy working on season two of You Probably Think the Story's About You, you have a chance to listen to the raw interviews from season one. The raw interviews go really deep and there's a lot of conversation that we could not fit into the show. I'm really excited for you to hear this.

I think Sarah's story was the most jaw-dropping for a lot of listeners. For the people he worked with, there was really no way for them to see this coming. But for those of us who dated him, it was unsurprising. I'm so glad that Sarah is out of his orbit at work, but I'm devastated at what she lost because of it.

While the rest of us have had a hard time dating and letting people get close to us, Sarah still struggles to trust coworkers. She's trying to start her own practice so that she never has to deal with this again. Her bravery showed us another dimension of what his behavior can look like, and I think it's been hard for all of us to accept. And with that, here's Sarah. ♪

I even had this like moment where I was like worried. I was like, what if this is like some elaborate plan that he has like put together and like is trying. Because he's like crazy. Absolutely. No, there's been a couple people that I contacted and I just got like weird vibes from and I'm like, is that him? You know, like trying to get information from.

Um, so it's been really interesting trying to navigate, like meeting you guys and trusting and then having you guys trust me. Tell me about how you met. Um, I met him, well, kind of the first time I was, I was doing a training at work and he was one of the participants that came to it. After the training, there was a job opening that happened at my work and he was one of the applicants. And so I met him on his, I was all part of his interview panel and, um,

was and so then I worked with him he got he was the person I got hired um he actually told me that the reason that he wanted to work for because of the training that I did that he thought it was so moving and that I was so vulnerable and honest with like how like my own trauma and everything and that he really liked that and he really wanted to work with somebody like me and so that was what motivated him to apply for that position what did he like as part of the interview process what

Did he share his story? Like...

like his history and why that was so important to him? So I work with a certain population of people that have a specific illness. And so his son's mother, so his ex-wife, also had that illness. And so she had committed suicide because of her diagnosis. And so he felt really near and dear to his heart because he had a direct relation with... And he said something about he felt guilty, like that he didn't do enough to like...

help her and that's why one of the reasons she might commit suicide and so he wanted to work with that population as well. So when I met he had told me a very similar story about his ex-wife

and that she had died by suicide because she had been an addict and had an illness, and also why he was in the line of work that he was. That's why it was so important for him. 2018 would have been when she passed, and that's why he left the military, was to go home and take care of his son. Do you folks know now that that's...

You know that's a lie, right? Yeah, I have found out that she is still alive and well and not living with that illness. And also, I believe not his ex-wife. I haven't been able to find any confirmation that they ever got divorced. And so I think that they're still married. What did you think when you first met him? Like, what were your first impressions of, I guess, his personality and...

is handsome. He's very charismatic. He's super friendly, very talkative, charming in a lot of ways. And I found him funny. And one of the things that was really unique about our jobs is we had to work directly with each other and we traveled with each other. So we...

Like I think in the three months that we were traveling each other, we had like 30 overnights like where we were always like, and so we'd go out to bars together and get dinner together. Like we were, but my first impressions, I just, I thought he was a really charming, like great person. He seemed really genuine and, um, it's a really good conversationalist and I've really enjoyed my being around him. I felt really connected with him almost instantly. Um,

Is that how you felt? Like, I felt like he understood me and was super easy to talk to. And somebody was finally like seeing me for the first time. Is that how you felt? I'm sorry. I don't mean to laugh. I, um, that is a hundred percent. Like how I felt with him as I there's things about,

Like I was able to be 100% myself around him and I felt seen and like validated and married. I have a husband and I felt like he saw me more than my husband did. Like I was able to just be my authentic self and be appreciated for that. And it was really refreshing and it was really nice to have a friendship like that. Yeah, I think that's a superpower. It's just making you feel like you finally found somebody that gets it and like gets you. And there's so much...

After our first date, I drove home and on the way home, I was like, I finally feel like I'm home. Like he felt like home to me. And that was after like three hour walk for our first date, which is just insane that he can be that charming or everything that I said, he sort of had a similar story. So it just felt like he got all of it.

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I will say that I picked up a lot of his slack sometimes. Like he never, like I always had to set, like get our things ready for our site visits and like to be out like in the community. So I always had to prepare everything. He lived, he lives a little bit further away. And so instead of inconveniencing him, I would just like, I'll do it. I'll handle all these, getting all the prep materials ready. And then there was a few things that like, as we worked together that I realized he lied about.

that he had experience in, which he didn't have experience. And so when I would like call him out on it, he'd get like very like, oh, he's like, oh, you're like kind of deflect a little bit. But I think that's one of the things that led to,

what happened with him and I because he realized I knew that the truth about him and he was scared that I was gonna mess up his his thing but for the most part he was really easy to work with I know other women I work with did not like working with him um so there's there's at least two other women that felt really uncomfortable like him and that he didn't like

Like I've, and I defended him to them because I had such a different experience with him that I was like, no, no, I swear. Like, he's really great. He's like really nice. Like you can just talk to him about it. And these women had challenged him on things and they felt like he was kind of like a bully or that he was being manipulative. And I,

defended him tooth and nail, like would not allow them to say something bad about my best friend, basically. When he would talk about his work, he always made it sound like he did all the work, always. And everybody else, you know, didn't know what they were doing. And he just sort of had to pick up everybody's slack. And that's always how it was. And when I met him, I think it was towards the end of your guys' friendship.

And you'll have to remind me when that was. So he had said that, you know, I have this person that I do audits with and I have to do all the, you know, I have to do all the stuff. He would always say that he picked up all the slack, especially when he was traveling for work and had to get everything ready. There was one time when I met him online

um, in Southern Washington on the last night of, um, one of his work trips. And he had been late to pick me up because he was trying to, um, get in a report that somebody else hadn't done. And it was, it was always that his coworkers were the problem. Um,

I'm assuming that you had a different experience than that. Yeah, I'm...

It's really hard for me not to pull up my phone right now and like pull up his text messages and show like the pictures of me like because I used to send him pictures of all of our packets and everything when I would be doing them and him like thanking me for doing everything. I always had to follow up with him when we were done to get his reports because he never got them done in time and I very much would cover for him very often. So it's really frustrating to hear that.

was the same way in dating. So he never would say, I need you to book this or I want you to plan this, but he wouldn't do it himself. And so he was very needy. And I was always like, hey, we're leaving town this weekend. Do we have a hotel booked? And he'd be like, oh no. And I'm super busy at work. Can you do that? And so routinely I was the one sort of planning all

everything. He would come up with ideas and then never actually follow through. So I ended up paying for a lot of it as well. And he never like offered to pay for half or pay me back, but it was always under the guise of, you know, Oh, I'm really busy or I just can't get to it. Or, you know, thanks for taking care of that, babe. So a lot of coworkers that would complain to me about.

doing his portion of things or like not responding or there's a lot of people that will say like what is he doing because like he would be gone like all day and nobody could get a hold of him they'd message him and he wouldn't be answering and work work message team the team's message saying and uh a lot of people are like they would say we want to respond to them so I feel like a lot of people came to me to complain because they knew how close we were so I thought that I could like help like get him to like do things

But like I said, when, once I started bringing up concerns about like that kind of stuff to him, he like turned on me really quick. Well, and I, that happens when you're dealing with somebody that has his psychopathy because the second you started seeing problems, he doesn't know how to, I'm assuming he just started gaslighting you and, you know, making it all about how it's your problem. He did the same thing in dating. Yeah.

Yes, let's go back to the, like, initial first few days. Okay, so you were part of the team that interviewed him. And then what was it like in the beginning, like, when you guys first started working together? It was great. It was really wonderful. Like I said, we developed a really close friendship. He told me I was the only person that he trusted at work. And so he was, like, always, like, I was the only person that he would have, like, personal conversations with. And we...

became friends really fast like we we had our first site visit within like a month or so of him um coming and working uh there and so we were out by ourselves like I said we go to dinner and we have drinks together and stuff like that and so we like I said we became friends very quickly um it was like I I mean there was there's only if I look back on it was only a course of like six months or so but he became one of my closest friends

When was it that he started there? Like, do you remember? I feel like it was, like, in, like, October. And, well, yeah, so I guess my timeline's a little skewed. So I think he started in, like, October, and then we started our site business in, like, February. So the first few months that he was there, it was just...

Yeah, we were just getting to know each other. And, like, we'd talk on, like, teams, like, in video chat and stuff because we didn't get to meet each other in person until later. That was October of 2020? 2021.

Okay. Well, it's just interesting because when I met him, he told me he had moved to Seattle in January of 2022. Oh. So... Absolutely not. No, he definitely started in 2021. He lived in Washington State for about a year prior to that because he worked at one of the agencies that did my training. I've now found women that have dated him as early as September of 2020. Okay.

That makes a lot of sense. You said that he shared a lot of personal stuff with you. Did he talk about dating? Oh, yeah. He told me all about the women that he was dating and he would share...

stories about them and like if he was having like frustrations with them he'd tell me about like his dating preferences he told me a lot that he um he hopes to settle down with a girl that was exactly like me so he'd always be like I want her to be just like you like I wish that like you'd say like I wish you were single because I would totally you'd be somebody that I'd be interested in I just took his flattery I was like oh yeah tell me all these nice things about me so great but um yeah he would tell me about

dating escapades and like dates go on sometimes he would at our site visits he would have dates with people like he would go for a couple hours and have a date with somebody and then he'd always like reach out to me when he was done and like talk about what happened at that date um

And he shared pictures with me of girls that he had gone on dates with or he was talking to. Like he once showed me some girls' boudoir photos that he sent him, which I got really mad. I told him that it's really inappropriate for him to do that. He's like, well, he's like, she has clothes on. I'm like, yeah, but you shouldn't be sharing. Those pictures are for you. Yeah.

Yeah, and he would show me his dating is Tinder and Bumble or whatever it was called. He's on every app. So I think it was Hinge, Bumble, Tinder. I'm sure he's on whatever else there is out there. He also mentioned that he would go to Target and I'm pretty sure to troll for women in person. So when did you start to realize that something was off with him and or your friendship?

Well, it kind of happened really abruptly. I, um, I started having some issues with our, our manager and he was telling me about the things that she was saying about me. And like she, and she was telling, he was telling me that she was asking for information about me, that she was concerned I wasn't doing my job and stuff like that. And so he would be like, I'm defending you. And he's like, and she just keeps, and I'm, it's driving me crazy. Cause she keeps asking all these questions about you and was always telling me that like she had this problem.

That's like a whole nother can of worms. But um, and so he was kind of like my confidant in that situation. And about June or July of 2022, we were supposed to go on a site visit. And a couple days for the site visit, I

because he was doing something wrong at work, and it was with a computer system that we had, and it was obvious to me because he said he had experience with this computer system when he got hired. He definitely didn't because he kept pulling these reports that were completely not correct. They weren't showing the right data, and he was like, I don't know why there's no data, and I'm like, you're not, and he wouldn't listen to me no matter how many times I told him that, and so I set up a meeting with the other woman, one of the women that actually said,

that he was something that was off about him. But she was the one that was an expert in this. And so we had a meeting with him and like showed him like how he was doing it wrong. And he got like, put this immediately his like, the way that he was acting like change. And he just got really defensive and like really quiet.

And so afterwards I called him and I was like, Hey, I hope like every, like, and I left him a message. She didn't answer. And I was like, I hope everything's okay. I hope you didn't just like get mad at me for that. Like, I just, I want to make sure we're doing our jobs right. And if you're like, there's a problem, like, I hope everything's okay. And he just comes back. Fine. That's all he said. And so the next thing I knew he wasn't coming on the site visit anymore.

Like, and so, but we needed both of us to do the site visit. So I was like, hey, and so he didn't tell me that. Like, I found out from our boss that he wasn't coming on it. So I called him and I got him to answer the phone and we're on teams. I was like, why wouldn't you, I was like, why wouldn't you tell me that you weren't going on the site visit? Like, we, like, we always do this together and I would think that you would tell me first. And he's like, I, he's like, I don't need to tell you everything. Got like really defensive and he's like, and yeah.

I was like, is everything okay? Like ever since that meeting with the computer system, you seem like you've been off. And he's like, I'm fine. He's like, don't worry about it. Like everything's fine. And I don't need to tell you my business. And so he hung up basically. And so that was the last time I spoke to him. And then suddenly I found out that he had been making up lies to me to my manager. And actually she never was having an issue with me. He was,

trying to pin us against each other.

And so I filed a complaint and they did an investigation. And when I got the investigation, I asked to see the report and all these lies are on there. He told me that I was his best friend. He told me that if he was to get when he gets married, I'd be the best man at his wedding. And I couldn't believe the things that he said about me. And so that was kind of how I found out about it was that report. But we haven't spoken since that phone call that we had about the site visit.

How did your work handle the investigation? And were they able to show and prove his lies? So I wound up, he was one of my references for a promotion I was supposed to be getting. And he totally botched that for me. And so when it came back, they said that because I didn't get along with

the people I work with that I have to work closely with, that they're going to have to move me to a different position, which is completely out of my scope. It's not something that like my whole career has been around this illness that I worked with and they put me somewhere completely. Not that. And so when that happened, I pushed harder. I'm a union and represent employees. So I pushed harder on my complaint and,

And so my work met with me to try and talk about it. And I was like, everything that he said is a lie. Like that shouldn't be like, I can prove that he's lying. And so they're like, well, how can you prove that? I was like, I'll show you text messages. I have like all these things. And I was like, and there was one instance where he says that I berated him the entire drive home because I, he, he rejected me sexually. Um,

And so I berated him the whole way home. And that was on that trip. He exposed himself to me. He dropped his pants and showed me everything in the, when we stopped at this river for like, he was peeing, he says, but he completely to his ankles, dropped his pants. And I,

just kind of was like whoa and went back and sat in the car and then we just and I was like when he got my car I was like what were you doing he's like oh I just think it's funny I need to send my dick and I was like okay I was like well that's like you can't be doing that you're like and we had set a very clear boundary with them and then we've stopped and watched we stopped at every viewpoint on the way home to like and we were fine like everything was fine and so I said like that story this is what happened and

that day. And so my work was like, oh, well, he's committed a crime. Like that's sexual harassment. And like, um, he can't do that. And so they forced me to file a sexual harassment complaint, which I was hesitant to do because I've been not believed in the past about things like this. And so I, I, when I did it, I gave everything that I had as proof of that. And I

And they came back and said that I made up all up and that I was just retaliating against him because of what he the information that he gave about my job. And so it was complete retaliation. And so he now has my old job.

There's information that you've provided to your work that says that the stuff that he told in his interview was a lie. Like his work history, not just as personal, but his actual work history is a lie. And they just disregarded all of that. They didn't seem to care. I had actually two other people file complaints against him for that because when that happened, I showed people like the proof that she...

And was not dead. And that was a lie. And I had two people that currently still work with him file complaints against him about lying about that, because it says if you lie during your interview, you're subject to termination. And they did nothing with it.

And when one of the things that happened in our situation is he also said that I would make him uncomfortable. Like he once slapped my ass at a bar and I yelled at him predator. Like I was, I was a little drunk, but I was like predator. I was like, do not do that. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And so he would say that I would constantly make scenes and make him uncomfortable. It's unbelievable to me. And I don't, I don't understand how he can continue to get away with it, especially knowing that,

the population that you work with and how vulnerable and how important your work is. You work in a job that's trying to help people that are vulnerable and they have this predator that is in your old role now. What are you doing now? So now I do works in the same office. I have like an administrative job. I get paid the same salary, but I just do a...

Administration job, there's not very much to it. But I am going to school again. So I'm going to school to be a mental health therapist, actually. And so it's been a blessing in disguise. I think it's put me in a place where I have a lot. My son was so happy when I stopped working there because I was gone so much. And so he was really happy to have his mom around more. And I think, honestly, that friendship...

could have gone to a dangerous place if it would have kept going the way it was. And so I'm grateful that that happened. And it's also allowed me to go back to school, something I wanted to do for a long time, but I've never had the push to do it. And so now I'm going back to school and it's going to be a much better place for me. But I want to do my own thing because I never want to have a coworker ever again because I don't trust people that I work with now. After the relationship started unraveling,

Did you go back and think of red flags that had come up throughout your friendship and working together? Yeah. I think the, I don't know, I can't think of the term, but the

The complimenting, the over complimenting nature that he had, especially at such so quickly, like how we went from like barely knowing each other to like to me being his best friend, like tell me his best friends telling me that he wants to be with somebody just like me. He was he was the complimenting. I think looking back on it was like, oh, my God, he was totally like grooming me to be in a situation. I mean, he was there would be when you get drunk, he'd be like touchy feely with me.

And I would, like, always have to tell him, like, to stop doing that stuff. But he would just laugh it off. I think him sharing with me about all the stuff about other women, I think, is a big red flag because that's – if you actually care about people, you don't share pictures of them. And you don't, like – if you respect people, you don't do that. And so – but I think, like, my biggest thing is just the – how quickly he –

became attached to me or gave me the appearance that he was attached to me because people who are mature adults don't like become best friends with somebody after like hanging out with them two times. See my Christmas card on his fridge. Yeah. He was invited to like Thanksgiving. Like he was supposed to come over for Thanksgiving that year. He'd been to my house several times and my husband actually,

within this, I think the second time he met him, he said something's off about him. I think he lies about everything. And I was like, I was like, he's not lying. He's like, and we got in this big fight about how he's like, he's, he's lying about stuff. And I was like, he's not lying. He's like, I was like, what do you make you think that he's like, you just tell like the way he says things and everything. And when everything blew up with like, I had to never ending, I was right. Like kind of stories about that. So.

I think hindsight is so hard and complicated in this situation because you are like a strong, intelligent woman. And I think of myself the same way. And so to get blindsided and to not notice or not see and have other people, most of my friends and best friends, I never had anybody that said, we think he's a problem. Everybody loved him. And so it,

it's so hard to get, like to reconcile that with myself because I think I'm a smarter person and I should have picked up on it. So you still occasionally have to see him in your work. Does he ever acknowledge or say anything to you or has it just been no contact? So I work virtually. And so if he is

on camera, which is not very often. I don't, I don't ever, if I'm in a meeting with him, I don't turn my camera on. And so there's been, there'd be no space for any type of acknowledgement or, or anything. That has to be so uncomfortable for you. I couldn't imagine sharing a story like this with

people that you worked with before he got there that you trusted as, you know, it's a big organization that you work for and that they don't have something better in place to handle something like this to protect you. And the fact that you had to leave your position is just, I'm so dumbfounded by the whole process. So when you realized that

It wasn't just at work that this was a problem, but that women that were dating him were having similar relationships in a way as far as how he was handling his dating. What was your response to finding that out, I guess? Was it validating? It was validating. Definitely, like, I wasn't alone, and I'm not the only one. Like, as I felt like a complete idiot once it all, like,

I have felt really stupid. And it's also something like I frequently think about this. Like I, I don't think a week goes by where I don't listen, pop into my head because I feel completely manipulated and used and just like it, like how did I allow myself to this to happen to me? And so when I found that support group, I, um,

Yeah, it was really validating, but I was also really mad. Like, how can somebody get away with this? Like, how can it be, this be okay? Like, how could he do this to so many people? And so that's why I wanted to like share my story and like also like commiserate. And, and I added into that, like, cause even like in that group, people were, the things that they were saying weren't true. They had the wrong name. They had the wrong employer. Like I had all this wrong information about him and I actually knew that

the truth about those things. And so I felt it was important to share that. I will say that that is one of the contributing factors to... Somebody in that group told him that I shared that information. And so my work got found out about that. And they said that was me harassing him. And so I got written up because I was harassing him. But his...

The work saw the information that was in the post, multiple women validating that he is lying and being manipulative. And they still just out of ease, let him stay in that position. So maddening. I know that in that support group is where I've met all of the women and I

hearing that essentially each one of us had a different history of him. Like for me, he had a brother and a sister-in-law that lived in Texas. Did he ever talk about his family? A little bit. He talked a little bit about his mom who came and visited him. His son, a lot about his son.

like he told me this one story, like, and I look back and I was like, how could you use your child this way is where it was suicide awareness month. And his son's school wanted him to be showcased as for suicide awareness month for, because of his mother. And he was almost crying to me about how, how could they do this to my son? And like, I feel like, like that's so hard for him and everything. And then to find out that's not even a true story. Like I was like, what is even the point of that? He's,

I knew he had a brother, but he didn't really share much information about him. He lived in like San Diego or something, but not a whole lot. He said that I was harassing his family to my work, which is so weird to me because I was like, I don't even know what their names are, but yeah. Yeah.

He did tell me one thing that's kind of, it's about a friend. He has his best guy friend he's not allowed to hang out with anymore because of his inappropriate things that have happened while they were together, which I found really interesting that his wife of his friend was not okay with him being friends with him. Did you know he had a daughter? I absolutely did not know he had a daughter, really. Yeah, so from a previous relationship, not from the wife...

But he does have a daughter that he has no contact with that is, I think, a few years younger than his son. I, from what I understand, too, his son's not even biologically his. Because if you look to, like, his son's last name is his mother's last name, but I've...

One of my coworkers, because when I started telling this, they started digging and stuff like that. And they're like, I don't even think that that's actually his biological son. Which might not be true, might be true. I don't know. But I have heard that too. Oh my gosh, I have chills. I feel like every time I talk to anyone involved in this story, the craziest... When I think it can't get any crazier, it gets crazier. Because that's the first I've heard of that. And now I want to...

Dig more. One of my coworkers said that he found something about that. I could ask him about where he found it from. That would be fantastic. And it's interesting because I don't think they look alike. So...

It's not his dad's name. Right. So it's, which isn't weird. Well, he had told me that he, his son had his last name and then changed it when his mom died, when the son's mom died to honor her. But that doesn't make sense because she never died. Because she never died. Because she's still very much alive. There are women that he has dated that she isn't dead.

that they were just divorced. And so there are people that have confirmed that, you know, the timeline is way off. Crazy. Wow. All of it. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. What's the diagnosis? Is this a sociopath? Is that what this is? Usually narcissists, true narcissists, they need love and they need attention and they can't get it from themselves, but they don't have empathy for other people. So they will mirror you. So you meet them and

They're mirroring back to you all your best qualities and all your traumas and all your conversations and similar stories. And that's why you instantly feel connected with them. But they just need your light. So the brighter the light you are, the more attracted they are to you. But they need your fuel to literally keep them going, to have any self-esteem. Sociopaths tend to do that, but they need power and energy.

I'm still unclear as to, I think he's kind of in the middle because he always talks about how great he is and how smart he is and how much he knows. But he always acted really dumb with me. Like his water heater went out and he was like, I guess I'm just, you know, not going to do anything. And I'm like, well, did you try resetting your water heater or calling your landlord? And he said for a week that he had no hot water.

And I'm like, are you completely incompetent? But then he would talk about how smart he was and how great he was, especially at work. And so I don't, I think you probably got a little more of the sociopathic side of him because it was at work and you have to have a position of power if you're at work. I got the other like needed love and attention all the time. But with your guys' personal relationship, he needed you to adore him.

And so it's why I'm doing this podcast is because it's so fascinating to me how,

do the same thing. You can have 10 different narcissists and their behavior follows the same pattern. They mirror, they love bomb in personal relationships and work relationships. And then as soon as they realize that you have something

seen a fault in them or a flaw, then they'll start devaluing you or triangulation where they try and pit you against somebody else, which is exactly what happened to you. And then they just keep gaslighting and trying to make sure that they're seen as the good person and you're the problem. And they do that in work relationships and in personal relationships, but they all do it.

I love bombing was the word I was looking for earlier when I was talking about the flattery. And he's like, but I'm a preemie and I need love and I need to be held because I'm a preemie and like that's the way I need all the, he'd always bring this like preemie card. I was wondering if he did that in like the preemie card. He talked about being a preemie to the point where it was like

shut the fuck up. Like, I don't care when you were born or how you were born. Like, it was always his excuse. Like, I can't do that or I need this because I was a preemie and it's like, I hear the word preemie one more time. Like, it was one of the things that really annoyed me about him. It was very annoying. It was like, every time I was like, are you going to tell me you're a preemie again? He didn't use it with everybody. So I still don't know if it's true or not. You don't know if anything's true or not.

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