S22 E3: Murder-for-Hire
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Hi, I am alex brister. I am thirty years old and from party lin, or again, I met Megan through a facebook group of women who are all roughly millennial age, genee called spicy girls. And it's just a facebook group where we talk about life, talk about issues with partners and parents and rental agreements and how to find departments and all of that fun stuff.

And that's where I initially made make there was a group chat created by one of the admins of the group because Megan's post became so consistent and constant and a bit draining on the group. So there was a group top created, and I was one of the people who was added to the group shot. The goal was to try to give her the support and interaction that SHE desired from the group without bringing the entire group down with her.

And what kind of things was SHE .

posting about? SHE started posting about the most monday things, everything from, has anybody pinned their bangs back with a bobbi pin? A lot of things like that.

And things started to get increasingly strange. IT got to, I need advice on how to communicate with my theriere. And then my therion is out of town, and I have a standing.

Now this stand in therapies is stocking me, and i'm being sexually assaulted by my mentor or my manager. And things just started sort of firing into great intensity. So everybody really tries to be really supportive to one another.

And that is really the spirit of the group. So with Megan post, IT was bit crying at first. And so IT was a lot of like a, oh, honey, oh goodness, trying to empower her to be a little bit more independent, a little bit more, I would say, aware.

But IT got to a point where we were scared for her. We were really concerned about her. We were trying to get her help that he needed. And van tt just ended in anger. IT was a very high stress situation near the end.

What years would you say that you've started .

being in this group with her? I want to say Megan joined around seventeen, and he was removed in twenty eighteen from the group. And all of IT spent offs, which SHE did her best to get in every single one of .

what was the reason he was removed from the spice girls group.

Ultimately, what we discovered is that we were, in a strange sense, we were being configured by her. We started to notice you would have these very consistent and very intense traumatic situations. And I can't remember what the pinacle of this, where we really figure red this out.

But ultimately we figured out that he was lying. SHE was coaching other people's traumatic stories as her own. Somebody would say, i'm being stocked by my ex.

I've tried all these things. I have talked police like, i've done all of these things. What other options do I have? What have I not thought of to help me feel? R and then a few days later, Megan would come in and say, what I mean stocked by my. And this is all that I have done. What else you know, what have I not thought of? SHE said that either her parent or her grandparent had completed suicide a day or two after somebody else had had said my grandparent had completed suicide, and the post was usually similar at the time.

We didn't necessarily notice the similarities between the posts and our content until somebody pointed that out and said, SHE seems to go through a lot of the things that the rest of us are going through that we were able to sit down and sort of piece IT all together to say that, oh, she's actually genuinely coorting people's stories here. At the time when Megan was in the groups, I was going through my own personal journey. I was going through a hard time.

I was a bit to multis. IT was a lot when Megan was sort of at our peak, I was sharing some personal growth that I was going through. And Megan used a lot of those instances and corrupted them into her own story and made them much more intense, much more draining, an way more traumatic than IT ever was, even for me, again, like this is a very connected group.

And i've had a lot of internet friends over the years from those groups. And up the time they were all going through something, I mean, everybody was experiencing something really, really difficult. I was in a lot of chats and a lot of group chats comforting people who had gone through loss or gone to break up with things that nature just just sort of hold that and make sure it's known that they might be alone in their living room, but they're not alone.

Spirit ally, emotionally, the biggest to issues that he spoke to us about was her life in politics. SHE claimed that SHE was being sexually abused by her boss. SHE was saying that he was having these really long ruling and emotionally draining days working at the state house that he was gonna have to go to events where her rapist was at, you know, these very intensive, scary situations. But there were mainly political lenie.

There was a mention of an article around twenty eighteen. The me too movement is happening. And at this time, allegedly stoner claim he was working with a journalist from the indian APP less star.

Were you aware of that? And what did you know about that situation? If so.

yes, that was a huge point of discussion for Megan. Was her talking about what she's experiencing? There was somebody in the group who was going through their own me too journey and sharing their own story of how conversations were going with their journalist, conversations that we're going on in their own community regarding the situation.

Megan was also speaking out her story with a journalist and was going also through harassment. And IT was even more intense because that was the journalist who was harassing her. So that was a strange kind of flow of events that absolutely raised alarms for me.

And I know what raised lamp for other people, because mean wen say, well, I got sent the bulk sized pack of tissues from the journalist, and they put in the note that these tissues were for my flashbacks, which, I mean, what journalist Franklin has the spare money to send somebody this massive passive aggressive gift? And what benefit would any journalists have by harassing a subject and a source? In that way, you really didn't make any sense.

SHE specifically said that he was working with the journalist who uncovered the U. S. gymnasts. s. Abuse, learning authors, victims. So these journalists have really made a name for themselves of lifting up voices of survivors.

Why would they go out their way to so sickly and disgustingly attack A A source for something going on in their own state? Like the math is not math, two plus two is not equal for in the situation. But he kept going with that. I don't even really necessarily think that SHE ever admitted to line about that specifically. He did admit to the fact that he was co anybody y's story in that if you look at when stories or perspectives were being shared about what that person was going through and they were working really hard to share their story, a few days later, meghan was telling the same story with much more heat and much more intensity.

Please note, at the time of this episode's earring, the indian apple star did not respond to my request for comment. How did the removal get handled and did he have a response to those accusations? I mean, imagine IT was a little bit awkward. D insensitive.

There was a group chat created of all of the admins and moderators of not just the spice girls group, but the spin off groups from that. So there was a mental health spend off group. There was a dating off group, there was a online dating group, streaming, sharing different shows, or movies, or documentary or whatever, that you are watching, that you have a reviews on.

There was a book, one. There was apparent one. We created a big group chat to basically more or less get all on the same, because we realized that we all had sort of the same ideas about what was going on with magin. But none of us wrong the same page. And so if one group removed her, then we figured that other people would have to deal what the fall out from that.

So we got in a group chat and we compared notes and said, what have you noticed whats going on here? What's the situation? How is SHE acting in your group? First is, how is SHE acting in the other group? And from there I was sort of all decided we were gonna remove her from everything.

I can't remember if he was removed, then added back in, or what the plane was by. In the spice growth group, one of the admins allowed her to do an apology post IT was an apology. That was an an apology in the sense of if you hadn't been in the discussion, hadn't been following along, you would look at that and go, I have no idea what she's talking about.

SHE apologized for line. SHE said that he was going to be seeking out mental health services and that SHE appreciated the support that he received from the group. But when people would go in comment and say, hey, you did this or you hurt me or this doesn't make any sense, those comments were get deleted and then Megan would promptly block them.

And my comment I D said, where did you get this particular story from and the comment was deleted and then Megan properly blocked me on just about everything. So IT was very strange about why an apology was even allowed, but cheap apologized and there wasn't any to IT. And SHE, just after that, got removed from .

the group as time went on, he did sort of get phased out of the campaign world.

That's just in we heard from him in episode one in two. He's a former political acquaintance of stones.

I actually met with her one on one in twenty eighteen and nineteen. And IT was when I was started getting out of the political world myself SHE in twenty eighteen. And again, SHE wasn't really round politics much for the twenty eighteen cycle.

After the twenty sixteen cycle, SHE was very much sort of pays out and nobody really saw her much in twenty eighteen. But he did have a very big social media presence, because that was the year of me, too. And he was constantly tweet about how he was a sexual fault victim and how he had been assaulted by a very powerful man in the state of inDiana.

And SHE made that very clear and shoot, often interact with women on social media like a sister survivor, and made that a very big part of her personality that had only happened by the time I met her. But again, after me, too, sort of cycled out of the news, Megan, very quickly, kind of a dropped that I did not know at the time who he was referring to, just knowing of her, knowing about her, I always suspected IT was not true. I couldn't imagine anyone wouldn't done that to her just because, Frankly, SHE was never important enough to have been alone in the room with a powerful man like he was a very grass level volunteer who would come in and out.

But I didn't think that was. But SHE did make a very big deal a bit on social media. But Megan had reached out to me a couple times and wanted to get coffee, which is not a thing people do.

I went mostly as a joke because we'd follow begging in her crazy facebook posts and her exaggeration for a long time. The funny thing is, when I first remembred that I went back to look through my dms, I think SHE cancelled on me like four, five times this. Before IT actually finally happened.

I wasn't even like that series about IT. Well, I went and I was the first time I ever spoke to her beyond, oh, hi, are you at a big event? People laughing when I say this, but I always say she's not bombing at the mouth.

You sort of saying you would instantly know this person is really unwell or disturbed. That's not the impression you get when you meet Megan. You think she's perfectly nice shemaiah a little off, but not anybody that should be disregarded in the way that he was often spoken.

I came away from having a little bit more compassion for her, having participated in some trolling of her and some me and stuff that been made, and thought beauty that that because he was nice. I think this would have been directly after the twenty eighteen mid term. And that was when I was sort of done with politics.

Personally, I just I had some issues and didn't feel like I was the place for me anymore. And I sort of said that early on in the coffee and I did notice SHE very much lost interest in me and was not looking to stay for a long time, which was fine and SHE was pleasant. But I had noticed when he realized he wasn't onna get anything out of me.

I couldn't an in to events anymore, whatever. SHE was kind of over IT then sheet very into her religion and church, specifically the I town mega church, which is a very large network of mega church. They have a couple of campuses around the area, and SHE went to, I think they're main campus, which is in Fishers, which is close to where he lived.

And SHE very quickly like gets in the big pissing match with the church. And IT sort of triggered like this year long few that he had online. I think what happened was SHE sort of found the church, her community, online.

People who have had trauma relating to the churches, they grow up and and people have had bad interactions with pasters. People had me two issues in the church that weren't dealt with the right way. There's a big community in space for that online.

And I think SHE sort of came across that. And so he needed to sort of find a reason to hate own church. And so SHE got into this really deep view, or I always say that was a pissing match with eyes town, which is a very big church.

I mean, we're talking tens of thousand of members. I never fully understood. IT was very unclear, just from her social media post what he was mad about.

IT almost sort of seemed like he found the church, church unity. So now I have church. Her and my church is terrible. And SHE started a podcast of her own called the thinking R.

Hi, everyone will come back to our first full episodes, the thinking art. I want to make a disclaimer to everyone that in the past few weeks there have been many allegations made about me on social media. You just want to be assure everyone they are not true and in fact there unfortunately how the church has responded tavenner um hey but we got a problem here.

You chose to have the affair. Um you had daughters when this happened and I as a journalist and so to feel sorry for you now um I never will say that harassment is okay um and i'm not um saying that everyone should go harassed tavenner as someone that i've been harassed myself it's not fun but my situation I didn't make I I didn't have an affair. I didn't do something aggregation to warn that behavior.

The most bizarre story was Megan has A D I. On her record. And SHE posted on facebook that night that he got run off the road by somebody who went to eye down churches. And that's why SHE got in the U. I SHE posted the sex toys online and said he thought someone from ee town and send them to her because they thought I would be funny to send that to somebody with sexual trauma. Funny enough, in that picture of the dildo, there's tickets to a Christian concert on the table. And if you zoom in, the date is not right so either he said that went, bought them all herself and then took the picture or SHE found that the online that very it's on the table or not the correct date that he says he got this and I the photo two .

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odd to me I felt like he found box in a warehouse or something .

exactly IT was like something's not right here.

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One of the most bizz things you're going to find is you're going to come across people talking about the murder for higher Price that SHE got involved in. There was a guy named jeff thomson. He was a pastor in canada.

He had doubt with Megan and also come across Julie royce, who is a prominent person within the church community. I think the two of them were trying to start to bring some more reforms within our churches. They came across meggan.

But essentially Megan told pater thomson that there was a murder for higher plot out against him. And IT was coming from the other pastors within our church. And he said he got so serious and he was so convincing that he had to put his kids in the car.

And I think about leaving the house one night. And IT was just because Megan was playing so many different characters in a world that he had made up, testing him from multiple different numbers about of these conspiracies within the church that he believed that. And i've heard him say he is incredibly good at IT, creating a false world in which he is a central player.

My name is Julie royce, and i'm an investigative reporter in the founder of the royce report. I used to be a talk show host on the moody radio network, but discovered a lot of corruption there and blew the whistle and got fired as a result from my radio job, which I knew what happened. But what I didn't expect was, on the heels of that, I had a number of people coming to me, begging me to report their stories of abuse and corruption within the Christian community. And for the past six years, that's what i've been doing exclusively.

When did you meet Megan's stoner and what was the nature of your relationship .

while I was when I was reporting on the association of related churches or arc, as there now one of the largest church planning organizations in north america. And SHE kind of piggy back off the back of some of my reporting. And SHE began doing her own, as SHE called, sort of citizen journalism.

She's not trained as a journalist, but he had some connections at a church, I believe, in an indian ables. And IT was able to get some people to talk to her. And so initially, SHE just reached out and SHE connected me with some folks, and he seemed to know a little bit about the background of what was going on there.

And so SHE not somebody I ever interviewed as a source, but SHE connected me to some other sources and seemed to be helpful what he was doing. And I remember in particular, he did a podcast with jeff Thompson, who was a pastor within the association related churches arc. He was just a phenomenal interview.

I remember listening to our podcast. I didn't think the podcast itself was that well done, but I thought he is an interview, was an incredible interview. And so I reached out to Megan and said, hey, i'd love to get in contact with this guy. You don't mind. And SHE was helpful. SHE put me in contact with jeff and jeff, I ended up recording a podcast and is still one of the most insightful podcast that I have about how of these art churches Operate and how they train their pastors and how they launch large this, their whole philosophe behind what they do, which was really, really revealing at that point. I just thought he was concerned and helpful citizen who wanted to see the truth exposed.

Hey everyone, it's making here with the singing art. Welcome back to a mini episode of the singing art and has been quite, quite the busy week. Julie royce, someone that we have mentioned in this podcast.

In the last episode, ff SHE broke a story with jeff about the two percent that jeff is obligated to give back to ark, the association of related churches. You take out these interest, free wilds, and then after you pay them off um you have to give two percent back to ark. And I believe that like every month or so in any way, that story has absolutely blown up.

Julie royce has been a great job covering IT um and I plan to have sme exciting guest on in the near future. I've taken a bit of an example from all of this because i've been making the rounds in the media. I appreciate everyone that has listen to this podcast that has shared IT that is reach out to me um to let me know how much just really means to everyone this has really been um quite the experience to say the least.

Honestly, not only has my life changed due to all the harassment but it's been quite the honor to to really be the vehicle for stories and to hear people and to talk with people and really getting to the bottom of this um I have suffered very vicious attacks um but I promise I don't want to make this about me so I will just say that I appreciate everyone reaching out to me I love the idea that we have surpassed hundred thousand plays IT has been absolutely insane. The amount of listened that we've gotten and study mentioned us. I'm going to a link everyone to the article Julie royce did um where he mentioned this podcast when ga jeff Thompson on really dug in to all the scandals that arks been a part of.

Did you ever meet with her in person? Or was your relationship mostly digital?

There was all digital, either email or think we probably talk on the phone a couple of times. That's all we never met person. now.

Did you ever share with you anything about her comes with I town church specifically she's made some claims online from her being rain off the road by them to them mAiling her a box of sex toys and precarious as SHE shared any of that with .

you the sex choice is new um but truth .

is stranger than fiction, right but her truth is stranger than any fiction I can imagine SHE did share .

with me some of the bullying and intimidation and I know that a lot of listening ers you might think, oh, the I A bit like tipped me off that that that is crazy talking, right? If you look at my website, it's not necessarily crazy talking. In fact, arc has been sued multiple times for bullying and intimidating people or for covering for sex abuse ers within their network.

So that sort of thing doesn't surprise me, unfortunately, because i've seen a lot of that. So SHE did talk about that with me. I am, was the church in indian applies church that we initially connected over.

So I remember her mentioning some of those things. I always rely on documentation, and I have to see the original thing. So I don't believe SHE ever gave me the sort of documentation I would need to report anything.

I never reported any of the. But again, I think he did connect me with some people, some other people that I talk to about that particular story. I remember SHE reached out and said he wants to come to host these restore conferences, primarily for survivors to have been through some sort of church, church, a place where they can come for healing and safety.

SHE had reached out and want to calm, but the said SHE didn't have money. And so I had actually connected her to somebody within our organization who helped get her a scholarship so he could come again. At this point. I didn't know anything about some of the terrible things, really terrible things that she's done in participated and in some of the hooks is that she's been a part of.

But I remember red jeff reaching out, very concerned for me, saying that there was a murder for higher plot, that the association related churches was involved, and that they had threatened him, and that they were threatening to do something to me as well. And my first response to jeff was, well, if that happening, we need to file a police report immediately. And I think that was maybe a new thought term.

Of course he is in canada. So, you know, maybe he was, I don't know whether he was thinking that jurisdiction ally is different because SHE is in the united states. But yeah, that was my thing.

And I said, you need to talk her right away about going to police with what he has because he was saying that he had tax and documentation and all these different things. And i'm like, that's crazy. But again, he needs to go to police and going go police too.

I mean, that is not something I try for with. And it's not the first time that i've gotten these kind of threats or hear safe threats. And I was an investigator reporter.

You can be a target for things. And so I just don't trifle with that stuff. So my recollection is that he called her back, and then there began to be seem like some waffling on her park and then, but he called me back.

I think he was the next day and said, july, this whole thing as a hoax. I am so, so sorry. SHE just totally had a doped. And that's when I was like, oh, man, this is really.

really not good. Pastor jeff thomson forded to Julie royce his statement that he sent his congregation in regard to make, in quote, out of love for the church, and because he has repeatedly attempted to insert herself into the victim community, I feel the need to make a public statement regarding the credibility of Megan stoner. I interacted with Megan over the course of several weeks and appeared on the second episode of her podcast.

After meeting her on the all about cough separated our interactions rapidly evolved into a bizarre situation in which Megan attempted to impersonate multiple pastors from the arc and the governor of inDiana. Yes, really. SHE created multiple fake phone numbers to text from forged multiple phone screen shots, attempted to impersonate the governor of inDiana on a skype call, and created entirely fictional narratives with no basis in reality.

While I cannot speak to Megan's mental health, I can attest to her desperate desire for attention and her willingness to pray on vulnerable persons, including victims of abuse. In order to say he did, I pray SHE gets the help that SHE needs. I have spoken with multiple individuals who have had similar experiences.

All have cut ties with her. The all about cough sub also quickly figured out what he was doing. Simply put, Megan's testimony can not be trusted, and neither can any screen shots SHE produces of anything.

To be clear, I am only releasing this statement because he has been brought to my attention that Megan has not repented and is once again timely trying to insert herself into the victim community. I would encourage anyone considering working with her to see if he can produce character references from those who have been passing her in a local church for the past three years. Again, don't trust their text messages or any screen shots provided by Megan.

Asked to speak to the pastor via sum. If you are considering working with Megan and would like to discuss my testimony further, please feel free to reach out to me. blessings.

Jeff thomson, pastor, gospel city church. I reached out in september to pasture Thompson. But he did not wish to be interviewed for this podd cast. I also reached out to eye town inDianapolis for comment, and at the time of this episode's airing, have not received a response.

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That had been a while since he had reached out and said he was coming the conference. Uninvolved knowledge, different stories. And I given IT to a staff member. So I forgot about the fact that he was coming to the conference. And I remember when my staff reached to me long after and said that he was coming and he was gonna stay today and i'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we cannot do that.

And that's when I reach back to her and said, i'm sorry, we're going back to talk about this and then I basic said there was gonna a problem with her coming to the conference because, again, it's a safe place and we don't want body that behaves like that at the conference. So this was April when I reached out to her, I sent an email to her. He had said something about her father had just died.

I was like, take as long as you get back to me, say, or that I have some concerns about you coming to the conference based on some information relate to me by jeff thomson. And then SHE said, oh, I think you and I the same goal, you've been an inspiration, kind of this very flattering talk to me and then said, can you send me my questions and I responded, and i'm like, I don't have time for this, so I just said I can't commit to a process like that. I just think we need there are several ways.

So I just basically cut IT off at that point. And I hoped, because I know jeff d talked about trying to get herself help, that that would happen. I mean, I was really concerned for her, to be honest, because of her behavior and what I had seen about mental stability, all those things. And I was hopeful that him, as a pastor, he might be able to help her.

So then fast forward, David moral, who blogs at protester a, had started making claims. I believe IT was on twitter that he had some breaking news about you. Or or this big bomb, he was gonna drop about you. What do you recall about that? And what was the impact that had on you?

David is very much in the camp of john mcCarter, and he doesn't really do real journalism. It's a tabloid type thing. He doesn't follow the ethical rules of journalism that we do, for example, that you always reach out and you don't report here, say, but you reach out to the person.

If there is an accusation, give a chance to respond. It's something that prompts to be journalistic and it's not journalistic and it's not run by journalists who have been trained in journalism. And they really are unbelievably loose with the facts and always making these accusations.

But the number one defense against lander and libel is truth. And the problem is they publish things that aren't true. We are very careful about fact checking and documentation, and not reporting hair safe, but going to the first hand, witnesses hearing IT directly from that person. These are the sorts of things that we do. And we double checked documentation and all those sorts of things, but they just don't do that.

And Normally I just ignore what protesters a does because it's so off the wall but this the way he was saying, oh, I have something about to o that's Alice threads then he's posting like see a tomorrow Julie he was taunting me on twitter at that point the next but he was taunting me about IT and so yeah that's that's a little bit and i'm trying to figure out again, I knew I had done anything wrong. But what i've noticed this, you don't have to do anything wrong necessarily if people can craft a lie and sell IT to people that the age we're living in right now. Yeah, was nervous.

I was just like, what on earth is he going to drop? What is he going to say? So yeah, the whole weekend i'm waiting and then on monday, he drops another see tomorrow like I guess something that happened.

He wasn't going to publish a store on monday. Now after all, he is going to publish IT the next day. And then as he said, then he came out with a retraction.

IT turned out that Megan stoner had reached out. He published the emails he got from her. It's not even that good of a pated email that he sent. IT looks very cut and paste, but SHE crafted a narrative with these fabricated emails saying the I encouraged her to come forward with this juicy information that wasn't true, but just because I was into like the juicy information, and I would never do something like that ever, that's what he began to realize. And I forget exactly what I tipped him off to a but he began to realize that he might be taken in.

But I came for three days he's publishing that i've done something immoral, that i'm this awful person and with no documentation, and at that point, again, being duped. And that's just shocking. It's shocking that somebody who prompts to be a journalist, again, I wouldn't call a journalist, but the proportion to be a journalist will behave in that manner. And IT was an awful thing to do. There was somewhat traumatic for me.

Please note, at the time of this episode airing, David moral could not be reached for comment. I'll closely have you followed Megan stoners legal charges since this event took place?

Hard little, to be honest.

Have you had any further conversations with her? Any contact with her?

No, I cut off communication with her. The last time I remember having any conversation with her is that I did reach out to her at the point where he was just publishing some false things about me on social media. I remember reaching out and just asking her to stop doing that, that I was concerned for her and the way that he was behaving and that I would have to publicly say the stuff that he did again at this point.

I was really concerned for her mental state and for her as a person. I was really reluctant to go public with some of the stuff that he had done, because I just didn't know how that might impact her. But IT became clear when she's praying a lot of people, not just me, that he needed to be exposed and people needed to be warned. And so at that point.

that's when we did. Thank you so much. I cannot thank you enough for your time and energy.

So sorry for how you've been impacted. Like the other victims by Megan. Is there anything else that you'd like to add or go back to?

Well, I think the reason that Megan is able to reach the kind of havoc that he does is because there are too many people out there, self described advocates without training, self described journalists without training, who are not acting professionally, who are not going back and checking to see if things are true.

The harm to me by Megan was done by people who repeated her lies and didn't do do diligence to find out whether or not what he was as alleging was true. If I behaved that way as a journalist, I would not have the platform I have. The reason that I have the platform I have is because we do are do diligence and we publish things that are true.

And when we make mistakes, which everybody makes a mistake, we always immediately own our error. And we put IT out there and we let people know. We've never had a story debunked in the way that these stories should be and have been debunk because we do our do diligence.

This kind of reporting by people who don't know what they're doing just needs to stop. IT really does. And they need to either get trained as journalists and do their due diligence and do their job right, or they just need to get off the internet because they're doing a lot of harm.

I really appreciate you being willing to speak with me well.

Thank you. I appreciate speaking with you as well. Appreciate your work.

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that what he had done.

that's when I like hitting into high gear, and I was like, no one deserves to be treated like this. No one deserves to put trust in someone and then have someone completely ruin that trust. And that's what he had done with him.

And I was scary. I started taxi shortly after. That is when you met me for the first time, and I actually saw her in person.

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