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The Seagulls

2023/6/2
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Lulu Miller: 本节目探讨了20世纪70年代科学家在加利福尼亚海岸附近岛屿上发现的海鸥同性恋现象,以及这一发现对科学界和社会对同性恋的认知产生的深远影响。通过对历史背景、科学研究和社会反应的回顾,展现了同性恋在自然界中的普遍性及其对LGBTQ+社群的意义。 George Hunt: 作为最早发现并研究该现象的科学家之一,Hunt详细描述了他们在圣巴巴拉岛上对海鸥进行的观察和研究过程,包括对海鸥同性伴侣的繁殖行为、数量以及对该现象的科学解释。他分享了研究过程中遇到的挑战和争议,以及研究结果发表后引发的社会反响。 Lillian Faderman: 作为一位研究女同性恋历史的学者,Faderman提供了20世纪70年代美国社会对同性恋的态度和LGBTQ+权利运动的背景信息。她阐述了Anita Bryant等反同性恋活动家对同性恋的污名化以及对LGBTQ+社群的迫害,并指出海鸥研究结果对挑战这些观点起到的作用。 Anita Bryant: 作为反同性恋运动的代表人物,Bryant的观点在节目中被提及,她的言论体现了当时社会中将同性恋视为“不自然”和“有违道德”的普遍看法。她的言论与海鸥研究结果形成了鲜明对比,突显了社会观念的转变。 Pamela Gray: 作为一位创作了以海鸥为主题的戏剧作品的艺术家,Gray分享了她对海鸥研究结果的解读以及该研究对LGBTQ+社群的影响。她的作品体现了海鸥研究结果对LGBTQ+社群的象征意义,以及对社会观念的挑战。 Edgar Sochel: 作为一位参与了海鸥研究的生态学家,Sochel分享了他对海鸥同性恋行为的观察和感受,以及他对该研究结果的个人解读。他从生态学的角度解释了同性恋行为在自然界中的普遍性和意义。 Elliot Schreffer: Schreffer的观点强调了对动物界同性恋现象的研究对于LGBTQ+群体意义重大,这有助于挑战将同性恋视为“异常”的观念,并帮助LGBTQ+群体找到归属感和认同感。 Grace: 作为Lulu Miller的妻子,Grace分享了她对Lulu Miller对动物界同性恋现象的持续关注的看法,并表达了她对社会对同性恋家庭的偏见和歧视的感受。她的观点体现了社会对LGBTQ+家庭的挑战和歧视,以及对家庭成员情感和心理健康的影响。

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In 1972, Molly Warner discovered a significant number of female homosexual seagulls on Santa Barbara Island, which challenged the scientific understanding of homosexuality.

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In the 1970s, as LGBTQ+ people in the United States faced conservatives whose top argument was that homosexuality is “unnatural,” a pair of young scientists discovered on a tiny island off the coast of California a colony of seagulls that included… a significant number of female homosexual couples making nests and raising chicks together. The article that followed upended the culture’s understanding of what’s natural and took the discourse on homosexuality in a whole new direction.

In this episode, our co-Host Lulu Miller grapples with the impact of this and several other studies about animal queerness on her life as a queer person.

Special thanks to the History is Gay) (https://www.historyisgaypodcast.com/) podcast.

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Reported by - Lulu Millerwith help from - Sarah QariProduced by - Sarah QariOriginal sound design contributed by - Jeremy Bloomwith mixing help from - Arianne WackFact-checking by - Diane Kellyand Edited by - Becca Bressler

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