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Border Trilogy Part 2: Hold the Line

2023/10/20
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Alejandro Mayorkas
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Doris Meissner
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Jason De León
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Latif Nasser
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Silvestre Reyes
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Latif Nasser: 本集回顾了美国边境政策的演变,特别是"预防性威慑"策略对移民死亡人数的影响。通过对相关人员的采访和研究,揭示了该策略的实施过程、造成的严重后果以及相关各方的责任。 Silvestre Reyes: 作为埃尔帕索边境巡逻队部门主管,他实施了"封锁行动",旨在通过在边境建立人墙来阻止非法入境。起初,该行动在当地赢得了广泛支持,但随后引发了争议,并最终被提升为国家战略。 Doris Meissner: 她参与制定了将"预防性威慑"策略扩展到全国的计划。她承认该策略存在缺陷,并对移民死亡人数的增加表示遗憾,但认为放弃边境执法是不现实的。 Jason De León: 他通过在索诺兰沙漠进行的尸体分解实验,揭示了官方报告的移民死亡人数远低于实际数字,并指出沙漠环境加速了尸体的分解,使得许多死亡案例无法被发现。 Latif Nasser: 本集深入探讨了美国边境政策的伦理困境。通过对相关人员的采访和研究,揭示了该策略的实施过程、造成的严重后果以及相关各方的责任。该策略将非法移民推向危险环境,导致大量死亡,而政府对此心知肚明,却未采取有效措施。 Silvestre Reyes: 他强调了边境执法的复杂性,以及在满足当地居民安全需求与避免对移民造成伤害之间的平衡。他认为,他的"封锁行动"最初成功地减少了犯罪,并改善了边境社区的治安。 Doris Meissner: 她解释了政府在意识到移民死亡人数增加后采取的补救措施,例如开展公共宣传活动和组建搜救队。但她同时强调,由于政治因素,政府无法放弃边境执法,这导致了移民死亡问题的持续存在。 Jason De León: 他指出,美国政府对移民死亡问题负有责任,因为他们明知该策略会造成严重后果,却仍然坚持实施。他认为,修建隔离墙并不能解决问题,反而可能加剧移民死亡。

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While scouring the Sonoran Desert for objects left behind by migrants crossing into the United States, anthropologist Jason De León happened upon something he didn't expect to get left behind: a human arm, stripped of flesh.

This macabre discovery sent him reeling, needing to know what exactly happened to the body, and how many migrants die that way in the wilderness.  In researching border-crosser deaths in the Arizona desert, he noticed something surprising. Sometime in the late-1990s, the number of migrant deaths shot up dramatically and have stayed high since. Jason traced this increase to a Border Patrol policy still in effect, called “Prevention Through Deterrence.”

First aired in 2018 and over three episodes, Radiolab investigates this policy, its surprising origins, and the people whose lives were changed forever because of it.

Part 2: Hold the Line

After the showdown in court with Bowie High School, Border Patrol brings in a fresh face to head its dysfunctional El Paso Sector: Silvestre Reyes. The first Mexican-American to ever hold the position, Reyes knows something needs to change and has an idea how to do it. One Saturday night at midnight, with the element of surprise on his side, Reyes unveils ... Operation Blockade. It wins widespread support for the Border Patrol in El Paso, but sparks major protests across the Rio Grande. Soon after, he gets a phone call that catapults his little experiment onto the national stage, where it works so well that it diverts migrant crossing patterns along the entire U.S.-Mexico Border.

Years later, in the Arizona desert, anthropologist Jason de León realizes that in order to accurately gauge how many migrants die crossing the desert, he must first understand how human bodies decompose in such an extreme environment. He sets up a macabre experiment, and what he finds is more drastic than anything he could have expected.

Special thanks to Sherrie Kossoudji at the University of Michigan, Lynn M. Morgan, Cheryl Howard, Andrew Hansen, William Sabol, Donald B. White, Daniel Martinez, Michelle Mittelstadt at the Migration Policy Institute, Former Executive Assistant to the El Paso Mayor Mark Smith, Retired Assistant Border Patrol Sector Chief Clyde Benzenhoefer, Paul Anderson, Eric Robledo, Maggie Southard Gladstone and Kate Hall.CORRECTION: An earlier version of this piece, when the episode originally published in 2018, incorrectly stated that Silvestre Reyes's brother died in a car accident in 1968; it was actually his father who died in the accident.  We also omitted a detail about the 1997 GAO report that we quote, namely that it predicted that as deaths in the mountains and deserts might rise, deaths in other areas might also fall. The audio was adjusted accordingly.

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Reported by - Latif Nasser

with help from - Tracie Hunte

Produced by - Matt Kielty

with help from - Bethel Habte, Latif Nasser

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