The Big Suey: The All-You-Can-Eat Buffet
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Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

David Sampson specifically requested that Stugatz be in studio so that we could talk about his book. Stugatz just left to go do God bless football and an assortment of other assignments. Everyone here, everyone that you see here, everyone that you hear in the room today will be at this watch party tonight. Uh,

Browns and Steelers at the Flanagan's. Flanagan's is one of our favorite in South Florida. We like the partnership and we love the restaurant. I think I love the restaurant almost more than I love the partnership. And I love the partnership because it helps the business. But I've loved Flanagan's since I was in college. It's a South Florida institution. It's Flanagan's. It's Miller Lite. It's us.

It's a good time. I mean, Steelers-Browns is going to be on. The Panthers are playing tonight. We're going to be watching everything. It's the Flanigans on North Miami Beach, 13205 Biscayne Boulevard. They have plenty of parking. It's supposed to get a little chilly. Winter is here in South Florida. It's supposed to be like 65 tonight. So bring your sweaters, and we'll be out there. Come join us. It's going to be a lot of fun. Dan, we're going to be so locked in. How many rib rolls are you going to have?

I'm hitting the nachos. I'm going to stay to the nachos. You know you can order extra. Maybe chicken wings. Yes, it's one of the fattest things. It is the fattest thing I've ever heard. Chris Cody knowing that you could get refills of nachos when they get light on the things that go on top. Look at that. Jessica's just learning that about nachos. If you have just chips, you can send it back to the kitchen and say, fill me back up here. I've never been to Flanagan, so I'm very excited. My boy. Yeah.

What is the greatest of the refills, of all of the refills? Because when I learned of that refill, I had not heard of a better refill deal than that one, that you can refill nachos? At some movie theaters, you get a large popcorn, you eat that thing, you can get it refilled. I'll tell you, growing up in New York City, we didn't have the concept of free refills of sodas was not a thing. So the first time I actually visited my brother who was going to school at Florida State, we went down to Florida and went to McDonald's.

and they had free refills. And I remember saying, how are they still in business? Like I could not imagine, like they must be losing billions of dollars just giving away soda. There will never be a bigger moment in my life regarding free refills than the first time I realized that it cost them like six cents

For every cup of soda they sell. David Sampson, as a business person, do you hate the idea of a free refill? No, you just don't make a lot of money off it. You do a lot of all you can eat. And there are some people who take advantage. But the majority of people, they get full and they don't actually end up eating as much as you'd think. But when you do those deals inside stadiums, it's the teams that actually pay for it, not the concessionaire. They keep their margin on all the food and they keep track of it.

How about the all you can eat buffet? How do you feel about that as a business proposition? I used to feel better about it. I don't engage in them. My first time in Vegas was the first time that I saw that at 21 years old and the concept of a nine 99, all you can eat buffet. I was never the biggest guy, so it didn't mean anything to me, but I love the ones. My favorite from childhood was a restaurant called ground round and

And that's a restaurant in Wisconsin, maybe everywhere. I don't know. And you only had to pay your weight and they had a scale. And if you got on the scale and you were a certain age, so I'd be like, you know, for 60 cents, my my family would take me there to eat.

Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Do you like or have you heard of the restaurant Ground Round? And also put on the poll, do you love an all-you-can-eat buffet? Your problem with the all-you-can-eat buffet is just hygiene, right? It's other people being able to sneeze near your chicken.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of how that works. COVID was actually great for the buffets because it mostly got rid of them, though it's beginning to happen again. And there'd be ways where you had your individual utensil. I don't love everyone using the same utensil. And I don't love sort of the sanitary conditions that surround buffets. So if I can avoid them, I do. And I do.

How about the rest of you? How do you feel about a buffet? Do you guys like a good buffet? I'm a big fan, obviously, of a good buffet. I love a buffet, obviously. When I get to a sushi buffet, I never know. When I take the little tongs for one sushi roll, can I just use that same tongs until I'm done? I'm going to go to a couple sushi rolls. There's one at each one, and I feel like it's inefficient to put the thing down and grab the other tong. I'm just going to take one tongs. I'm going to do my business.

And then I'm going to put the tongs back at the original little tray that it was on. There's so much buildup on those things when you grab different sushi rolls because obviously everything is topped with different things. All of a sudden, you have the one that you see everybody use that has all the residue from all the other sushi rolls on them. Dan, to be honest, I used to like buffets. But now...

Really? Yeah. Why? Because one time I was at an all-you-can-eat place, and I was looking around, and I was like, what am I doing? I know what he said there, but Roy doesn't know. Disgust.

It gives him disgust. The rest of you? Amin, how do you feel about a buffet? Yeah, I'm not really big on it. I always feel like it's not bang for the buck, especially buffets. They're no longer $9.95. But that's all they are is bang for the buck. You make it bang for the buck. It used to be. But now, like those Vegas buffets, it's like $49. And I'm like, I don't want to spend $49 for food. That's not that great. That's the other part of it is like...

The food is not great. It's just a lot of it as much as you can eat of it, but it's not like well-prepared, well-done, well-seasoned food. So I'd rather just spend the money on a meal that's going to fill me up rather than have all I can eat of something I don't really like. I used to be, especially in college, but now I have a wife and child, both of

food allergies. So what Chris was talking about using tongs on different plates. Yeah, he's spreading food allergies. Terrible. His inconsideration spreads to others. If you've got a nut allergy or whatever and one of your sushi rolls is pecan encrusted or something, you've got a real problem on your hand. If you have a shellfish allergy, okay, I'm not creating your problem here. Why are you at this sushi buffet? Because there's sushi that doesn't have shellfish in it.

Samson, what did you have to offer us that Stugatz would have needed to hear as it related to his book sale? Next week is going to be our big push for the book. We're going to try and make it a New York Times bestseller. We believe our audience will make it a New York Times bestseller. What are you laughing about? That would be the ultimate in the Roar versus Reach debate.

If Stu Gotts is a bestseller and somehow you haven't gamed the system and it really is through sales that you didn't do yourself, then that will be your number one accomplishment. Forget 20 years partnering with him. If this book is in your time's bestseller, it is an affront to authors everywhere.

What's funny about that is I got a text from him the other day, okay, and fourth on the list in the category of sports writing was the author that we had on last week for Best American Sports Writing. The best all over the world, not just America. Well, I guess it is America. But the best sports writing from the entire last year is chronicled in one book, and it was at number four.

And Stugatz showed me the picture of that at number four and him at number one in the sports category. And he's like, best American sports writing, my ass, was what the text was.

Here's the thing about those rankings. You have to understand how it happens. That's like when a new podcast comes out, all of a sudden it'll be high in the rankings, but it hasn't had a lot of episodes and it doesn't have a lot of cumulative listeners, but that's part of the algorithm. And I thought, and I may be totally wrong, that New York Times bestseller was a very simple equation. It was actually based on just sales.

So if you're telling me that the newness of a book would make it a bestseller and that that's a factor in that list, that is new information to me.

Guys, it's all about a breakfast buffet. An omelet station and a breakfast buffet in particular where you don't have to just scoop all of the scrambled eggs that everybody else is going to so you can get your customized omelet and then just whatever sides you want. That's the best buffet. That's my least favorite of the buffets. The breakfast buffet is the least favorite for me. Even with the omelet station? I don't love in general breakfast. That's my least favorite breakfast.

meal as well among the meals. Like I'd rather have a lunch buffet and I'd rather have a dinner buffet. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Levitard Show. Best of the buffets, breakfast, lunch or dinner? Picturing Dan at like a sad continental breakfast is funny. Like opening up one of those cereal boxes, pouring it in the bowl. Third in line to get the eggs. He's just kind of standing there. Excuse me, do you have almond milk? Do you have any oat milk here? It's like, no, Dan, we just have 2%. Did you guys ever eat at the dining hall in college? Yes. Because that was

That wasn't an all-you-can-eat buffet that I took advantage of. Well, not only did I love that, that was my first experience coming from a small exile background of just, I walked in with a wide-eyed wonder to the commissary, the eating area at the University of Miami. Dan, they started hearing the song, Amazing.

America. I'm not kidding you. The original Cuban defector baseball player, Rene Orocha, who came to this country, I went with him one time when he got to the United States to a grocery store as soon as he got here. His knees gave as soon as he walked in because he's just looking at food everywhere. And then he goes to buy something for himself because it's got a happy kid on it.

on the can smiling. And I'm like, that's dog food. You shouldn't have that. And he looks at me and he's like, you guys have food for your dogs here? Like he was totally confused by it. That was me in the University of Miami commissary. Like I'm just looking around and I'm like, I can have cereal whenever I want. I can just come in here and grab cereal. The meal plan just has perpetual cereal. So when you went to the Ratzkeller, the whole world opened up for you. Well, no, the Ratzkeller is the campus bar.

Exactly. It also opened up for me there because that was my first experience with liquor of any kind because I was not a bad kid in high school, so I didn't do any of that stuff. Judgmental, Jesus. I was 35 years old. It is illegal. I mean, who cares? Not in Wisconsin. Under 16 is not illegal to drink liquor? David, what are the rules in Wisconsin? Can't you drink at a bar with your parents?

I thought it was 18, but no one is carding. Everyone on the University of Wisconsin campus in Madison, everyone is drinking as a freshman and no one cared.

David, what did you think of everything that went down this week with the Jets as they must? The entire situation must enrage you. The fact that an organization as large as the Jets just gave everything over to Aaron Rodgers. Well, they got what they deserved. And the fall guy, there's been so many articles about the GM being fired and the athletic just crushed, crushed Woody Johnson as they should have, of

Of course, he's a meddling owner. Of course, he makes the decisions. We talk about it on Nothing Personal. On any of the shows, we talk about every owner is a meddling owner. So what Woody Johnson did is not so out of the ordinary. You just would like a meddling owner that's better at meddling than Woody is. And it just appears that he had a bunch of thoughts in his head about Rodgers, about benching Rodgers, about the coach, not the coach. And what does it all mean? That your organization is not going to do well.

And that's where the Jets are. The Jets are no different than the Marlins. The Jets are no different than pick your team where there's an owner that just has no idea what he's doing, not interested in learning from anybody, and just is going to keep firing people and doing everything on his whim. And it just will mean the end for Stu Gatz. And I feel terribly for him. But he's going to have a New York Times bestseller, so I don't think he'll care about the Jets. Also, he's used to it. Let's be real. This isn't new for him.

David, this past weekend we got news of a settlement between Warner Brothers Discovery and the NBA in which they would continue, they got a bunch of things out of it including territorial rights in Northern Europe and Latin America outside of Mexico and Brazil. But one of the more curious things is they get to continue producing and making inside the NBA and then they license it to ESPN to broadcast.

How common is that in a settlement between two agreed parties for a third party to come in and basically be like a third team in a trade? Yeah, I was just going to say, I mean, it was a three team trade. That's what happened because the privity for inside the NBA was between Turner and Disney. It had nothing to do with the NBA. And.

And so that's like a three team trade where you figure out what's the best way to get this done. And the fact is that Warner Brothers had to settle. They were not going to prevail in this lawsuit. The NBA had very little interest in this continuing in any sort of way as a distraction. They've got enough problems with their on-court product. And they also recognized that the pregame show with Barkley and Shaq and Kenny Smith and Ernie needed to continue. And they also knew they weren't gonna leave Atlanta.

So when you know all of those things, you then can figure out how to make a trade. And Disney and ESPN, they're no fools. They need a pregame show for their package. And they said, we'll just literally take your show, but you do it. Do exactly what you're doing in Atlanta with the exact same people where Charles has wanted them all to keep their jobs, et cetera. So it saves face for Turner. It helps ESPN with a prepackaged, ready-to-go show. And their lawsuit goes away.

it was really a win for all three parties. But how common is that of the three-team trade style settlement?

in any business, let alone in media? - Yeah, no, it's not very common at all where you need a third company to come in to help. And I would argue that that actually was not part of the settlement. It was a trade that happened that made it look like a three team trade, but I view it as a totally separate negotiation because Warner Brothers recognized they wouldn't prevail in this lawsuit. They needed to save face and they needed to not bleed money by even having any of the packages

Oh, and by the way, there wasn't going to be a fourth package. So they did all this announcement of the five year production services deal and the digital deal and Latin America, but only the places that which really you can't monetize. And it all ends well. And then they did the deal with ESPN once they realized that they wouldn't have any games. This is kind of like when Disney traded Oswald the Lucky Rabbit for Al Michaels to NBC.

i didn't know about a trade but you can trade announcers you can trade talent uh their contracts are not assignable generally without their permission it would be as though you guys are under contract and you wake up one day and you're working for mcafee that you've just been traded in that way and i just don't know that your contracts would allow that but some announcer deals do and some and obviously player deals

all have assignment clauses where by definition you could be traded unless you actually have a clause that says there are no trades for me so it's an interesting thing and in fact Barkley will tell you that he feels like he was traded to ESPN but he's really a Turner employee a Warner Brothers employee he'll be paid by them all ESPN did was license the show from Turner the way metal Arc licenses shows from

uh people who own their shows katie nolan i believe was traded to espn i think i have that right uh can you tell me david what you imagine the going rate for that show is like what the value of that show is i will tell everybody listening to this that espn has been frustrated the entire time it has done basketball programming by its basketball studio shows because the basketball studio shows all pale in comparison to that

studio show as all studio shows do so their ability to buy that show when Charles Barkley doesn't want to work for ESPN makes ESPN the big winner there because the NBA and Adam Silver and David Stern before him have never liked what the studio shows are have always found them unsatisfying and so now they just bought the biggest and the best one over Charles Barkley's objections

Well, he can object all he wants, Danny. He has no say in the matter. He's an employee. But I will tell you that if John Skipper on the sporting class, his view is pregame shows, postgame shows, they're not drivers for me. Him talking as former president of ESPN, I'm far more interested in the game and the content that is the game. That said, I do believe that this particular show has taken on a life of its own, has the personalities in it.

that do give it independent value. However, Turner really didn't agree because they were willing to license it to ESPN. They were willing to get financial relief, but they're going to keep those guys and do a show with them maybe about all sports, et cetera. But make no mistake, they were ready to get

a part of those salaries off their books. Can you guys help me though with what you imagine the real cost or worth of all of that is? Like if I had to put a monetary value on the best studio show in the history of sports studio shows, ESPN wants to license that. What is the real world dollar value of that?

it dan it's hard to say because are you telling me that someone would go in and be a advertiser or sponsor only for the pre and post and not for the game they're not they're not interested in the nba they're interested in just those personalities that gets tested a lot when people get their own talk shows when people come from a group setting and try to branch off

It happens with artists and bands where they try to go on their own. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. We're going to find out because Turner is going to use Charles in a bunch of different ways. ESPN is trying to use Stephen A in a bunch of different ways. And we just don't know whether or not any of those ways will work. So I can't give you an exact amount. And by the way, neither can Warner Brothers. They know what the expense is to produce the show and to pay the talent, but they don't allocate a certain dollar amount to it.

Yeah, that's what I was wondering, David. We're assuming it's got to at least offset the cost of making the show. Now, some of that stuff is static and fixed to the show, like the people who work behind the scenes to it. But like you said, David, they've already announced their intentions to use their talent in

other ways. So how much of a percentage of their salary is assigned to the making of this show versus all the other ways, whether it's March Madness, whether it's an all-around sports show, whatever. And even, by the way, behind-the-scenes people, those producers, those camera people, they don't just work on that show. They work on a bunch of things. So how do you allocate a percentage of that? And that's the number, that's the cost, and then they're going to put a margin on top of that and say, well, it costs us this much, so you need to give us

That plus X. I'm with David. It's actually a lot more complicated, and I don't even know if Warner knows what they should charge for something like that.

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David, why did I see pictures of you and Chris Cody out this weekend together? Because we were. I was in Florida at Meisner Park at a concert, and all of a sudden I posted about it, and Cody was like, are you going to be in Boca? And I said, yeah. And he was there, and we connected, and we ended up watching a concert together at OAR.

And then we went backstage and did a total look at me, Louie, and got to hang out with the band members, which was amazing. And it turns out that Chris happens to be a lot of fun off the air. That seems shocking. Surprised by that? I feel like the people knew that. And I will say...

I don't know if the people knew this, David, a good time. I mean, David took care of me and my friend. As soon as he knew we were there, he's like, he went out of his way. Cause you know, like he tried to get me into his area and he got a little pushback, but you know, it could have stopped there. I told David, don't worry about it. But no, he texts me 10 minutes later. Hey, I got you. I got you badges. You're good to go. David was awesome. I love it. Chris is like, Hey, he's a good time. He paid for everything, got us backstage and everything. Incredible guy.

I was going to say, David, we did shots, and he's actually really relaxed and a nice guy. David, I have no negatives. I don't know if you're looking for negatives here. I have no negative notes on David. He was great. Yeah, he funded the whole night. What do you mean? I was not there because of him. He just went out of his way to make sure that I could come where he was. Yeah, an act of kindness, Amin. Come on. What is OAR?

It's a band of a revolution. It is a band. They started in Rockville, Maryland in the 90s. They've done very well. They continue to tour. It happens to be a fantastic group and I love them and I didn't really know about them much and I was introduced to them this summer. That's how late to the party I am. And

I will say this, Chris, that I enjoyed being out with you, though I found as the night wore on, and I'm not criticizing you 'cause some people would be okay with this, you got a little touchy.

So when we're celebrating or singing a song, I found that there was a little extra sort of body to body and hand to body contact that was problematic to me. Not because it was an inappropriate place, because any place for me is inappropriate in that way. But I noticed that there was that. So I was OK when the concert ended in that way. It was a vibe. And the other thing I'll say, Chris, Dan, that you may know this about Chris, he ghosted us at the end of the night.

disappear without saying goodbye. That's one of my moves when I'm not driving and I'm Ubering on my own and I'm like a lone wolf and I know that I can leave whenever I want. I kind of have this moment. We were backstage. The vibe was great. I didn't want to do the guy of like, hey, everyone, I'm leaving. And then everyone's like, oh, why are you like, I just, the vibe was good. So I just backed out. I feel like you're obligated to do that when someone gets you all access and pays for everything. Yeah.

Thank you. I'm the king of the Irish goodbye. I will tell you that my friends, this has actually happened, have been in a bar, heard the alarm go off from someone leaving through an exit they shouldn't have, and been like, Dan's gone.

Like, heard the alarm go off because they're like, that's it, Dan's left. So I can do that, but I wouldn't do that to somebody who had taken care of my entire night. That's a fair point, and I did apologize to David, but I did feel that the vibes were so strong that it wouldn't have been like a, okay, hey, see you later, thanks for coming. It would have been a, no, don't leave yet, let's, we're gonna, and I just was like, I didn't want to be the Debbie Downer, so I was just like, let me slip out the back door, hop in this Uber and go. But Cody, Cody, let me set the scene for you of what happened after,

The band was looking for you. - Yeah, you said that. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. - It's 100% true because we all had to clear out and they do counting of who's back there 'cause they don't want you hanging around. So we had the band, including Mark, the lead singer. He was there. - Nice guy. - The head roadie guy was there. There were members of security looking for you. And we were like, yeah, the tall guy, Red Beard, he was there. - Red Beard. That's not gonna narrow it down in an OAR concert. That is not gonna narrow it down.

Red beard. I bet they were shattered. Very good. Anyway, at the end of the day, we just did a full, we basically swept out the whole backstage and their lounges. The thing is, there's a lot of different rooms backstage at Meisner Park and there were different bands and there were different band members in different rooms. So Chris could have gone anywhere.

anywhere so we had to do a sweep of every room and we were texting him he was not answering and there were a bunch of us trying to reach him and finally the band manager was i i don't think he's here but you all have to go now yo i can't believe chris that the tall chris the lead tall guy the lead singer of a band that i just discovered five minutes ago was looking for you

I mean, I still I question how intense they were searching. It sounds like they were looking for you. At one point, my wife did say to me, David, she said, David has tweeted that he's at sound check and that it's magical. Put it on the poll, please, at Levitard show.

Has a sound check ever been magical? I, she, 100%. She didn't say this, but I thought to myself, that's just David showing everybody that he's at the concert like that. I don't believe it's an actual magical sound check. That is your cynicism. While possibly warranted is misguided in this particular instance.

This sound check was a little different because they were working on new material and they let us watch them as they were writing and composing both lyrics and the music to a new song. And I had never seen that before, that process, other than in a great play called Stereophonic. But generally, you don't see that too often. And so I thought that was pretty magical. You couldn't be more wrong, Dan. A proper sound check is...

of a band. I mean, come on. Bruce Springsteen sitting down at a piano by himself playing Thunder Road with a harmonica for a limited audience? I mean, get out of here, man. Come on. What? What? What? What? What?

I could be more wrong. I'm often more wrong. I am not wrong when I say that the OAR soundcheck was not as magical as David said it was. He wanted everyone to know that he was at the OAR concert. Keep repeating it, Dan. It won't make it right, but this is what you do. You think that if you just say something more often and you say it with a different inflection, like a very serious inflection, as though now you're going to convince everyone that

what you're saying is right. Keep going. I just have to keep saying OAR again and again. And I've heard of many and seen many things described as magical. If I were to make a list of all of them that I've heard in the entirety of my life, the last thing on that list would be the OAR sound check of all the things I've heard. No, I just like magic.

I like real magical things. And sound checks generally are not that. I also believe that you were lightheaded because Chris Cody, a good time, was going to be spending a lot of time with you that day. And at that point, you hadn't envisioned him leaving quietly without telling anybody because he's also rude. Can I clarify just to defend myself a little bit with the Irish goodbye? While David hooked me up with the band to get into his little area, I paid for all my drinks. This wasn't like David's like, you're on my tab.

I'm just defending myself a little bit here. Like, it wasn't... Not even around? This wasn't, like, bottle service paid for by David. Like, I paid for all my $18 beers, and that was it. And your tickets. I didn't get you tickets. That's what I'm saying. Like, David saw me there and was like, I'm going to get you in my VIP area. It was completely nice. All his crew is great. It was dry, though. A dry VIP area. But I didn't want that. But you guys are implying, like, I owed this, like... Kind of did, yeah.

I mean, it was. I don't think, Chris, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it doesn't matter whether I paid for zero or all of it. You were there with someone else who you also didn't say goodbye to. That's true. I was forced to stay there looking for you also. I don't discriminate. I just when I'm like I said, when I have my Uber, when I'm a lone wolf, I do a lot of traveling with others these days when I'm a lone wolf.

I'm Irish good-bye-ing. It's just how I live. Would you be kind enough? Would you guys be kind enough to give me the origins of the Irish good-bye? Why it's an Irish good-bye? Why the Irish are a people that leave without saying something more than others do? I'm going to guess it's because they're drunk.

and they forget to say goodbye. Okay. Well, I don't think Chris forgot to say goodbye. I think this was an orchestrated Navy SEAL strike of getting out of there. I was doing right by the party in my mind. I'm like, I don't want to like, there's a vibe in here right now. I don't want the vibe. I've seen the vibe of one person's leaving too early. You're claiming that you were doing this for others, that this was an act of

that your brother Teresa at the OAR concert? I didn't want to stop the vibe of like, oh, we have to convince this guy to stay now. Like, oh, he's leaving. Why are you leaving? The party's still- We wouldn't have convinced you to stay. Oh, David, you were vibing that night. If I would have said, David, I'm out of here, you'd have been like, why? What do you mean? David does not strike me as a guy that has ever said, why are you leaving? No, David was a good time. David, have you ever done that to anyone? Why are you leaving? Oh, boy.

I love Chris Cody being such a good time that he expects others and bands to beg him to stay. I'm telling you. The whole thing is going to fall apart.

Chris, please, come on, man. There were discussions about what's after this. Like, you always hear the, what are we doing after this? The after party. Like, I heard the rumbling, so I'm just like, what? I'm done. Chris, they were getting on the tour bus to go to the next tour date. With your crew, like, there were rumblings of, like, what's happening after this? Who was in David Sampson's Dangerous Nights crew, please? David can say who they were. I mean, I'm not going to out people. Like, just give... They don't have to be names. Give me, like, descriptions. All right. It was...

Mike Hill. No, I'm kidding. Mike Hill. It was Larry Beinfest. It was Mike Hill. And it was Jack McKeon. It was a roaring good time through Meisner Park. Give me the, please, the origins of the Irish goodbye. Yeah, it is the terrible stereotype that Amin was right about of a heavy Irish population in Boston, Massachusetts. May I suggest we now just call it the Cody goodbye? No. No.

Please, instead of being racist. I don't know if racist is Irish or race. Stereotypical, whatever it is. I don't know whether that's racist or not. Xenophobic, discriminatory. I mean, you guys should probably read some history books. Yeah, probably. Okay. I'll tell you what this means. Look it up is what it means. That's Jessica saying look it up. Can you help me, David, with a little better understanding of everything that's going on with my beloved Rays and their stadium situation?

What a cluster duck. So the hurricane comes, which you've, of course, predicted the end of the world. The weather patterns are all different. Climate change, et cetera. This hurricane was a really poorly timed hurricane, certainly for the people who lost their homes and lost their lives. That is for sure. Secondarily, there was about to be a ballpark deal that was finished for a new ballpark in St. Petersburg with a ton of real estate development. And then the trop erupted.

The roof blew off and there's great photos of it. They're not great. Let me say it better. There's tragic photos of this building and it becoming impossible to play in. And now you've got a community where you've got to decide, do we spend money to fix up a stadium that's only going to be here for a couple more years? Do we use the money to help people who lost their homes? Do we use the money to get a new ballpark done for the Rays?

All these questions are being asked. And what the Rays did, Stu Sternberg, bless his heart, he said, you guys aren't good partners. We may have to relocate because you're not willing to get this stadium going right now. We got to get into the new one by 28.

And then Rob Manford came out just yesterday, Dan, and said, hey, let's everyone breathe. Let's everyone try to recover from the hurricane. Let's everyone recognize the weather event that took place. He played the good guy to Sternberg's bad guy, which is preplanned, of course, the strategy, the best way to get the most public money. David, we were debating yesterday over the Pirates potential giveaway for this Paul Skeens card.

And for those who don't know, yeah, they're talking about basically being given this card from whoever receives it, which has Paul Skeen's patch from his rookie season on there. And they were offering a trade of 30 years of season tickets behind home plate.

playing a softball game with 30 of your friends and a whole other variety of giveaways, including Livvy Dunn saying, hey, come sit with me in my suite if you're able to turn in this card. We now have some of the details on the screen. But David, do you think this is good value or should this person take this card and try to sell it?

So a couple of days ago, I did a full segment on this on Nothing Personal. Let me sum it up for you this way. When you get this card and it's a one of one, so it's like a lottery ticket, you're likely not going to get it.

go right to an auction house do not do a trade now remember it could be anywhere you could have someone in detroit get it it's like the big power mega thing that stu gotts plays all the time it could come from a newsstand in out of your hobbits what do they want 30 years of pirates season tickets for it's totally ridiculous and someone did a calculation but they did it wrong that the value of 30 years of season tickets would be greater than what you can get at auction and that is not accurate

at all and by the way the meet and greet with paul skeins he's he's got an agent give him 25k he'll come to your damn bar mitzvah you don't need to trade a card for it and a softball game on the field the pirates like every team offers that and that's like five grand and you can play in the outfield you want to play on the infield maybe 12 grand give me a break this is not like a major trade that the pirates offered anyone who finds this card do not do that trade

a follow-up here, David, for the pirates, is that good value? What they offered like for, for the card, are they doing it to give back to schemes? Are they doing it to put in a museum? Are they doing it to sell themselves? Are they doing it to keep a piece of the great history of the rookie of the year? Cy Young finalists who did not win. Obviously the Cy Young that was announced last night, they're doing it. It was a good promotion. We're talking about the pirates on the damn levitard show. It's two guys. I would say that is one, nothing Pittsburgh.

Damn it, they got us good. Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Is there any possibility that the sound check at the OAR concert was magical? What is the movie that you're reviewing today, David? I want to talk about a movie that is called Saturday Night. Right.

- The SNL movie. - The SNL movie. It is a movie that is all about the 90 minutes prior to the first ever SNL episode back in the '70s with a young Lorne Michaels and a young Chevy Chase and a young John Belushi and Gilda Radner, et cetera. It's directed by Jason Reitman, who is Ivan Reitman's son, Ivan Reitman, who has passed away. And Dan, you are very confused in how you talk about Ted Turner. He's alive.

I didn't realize I was giving off that he was dead. I didn't realize that it sounded like I was eulogizing. Evidently, lately, I've been doing that. Sounds like a fine.

I don't know what causes you to do that. It's dangerously close to a fine, yeah. Sorry. But Ted Turner's alive, and so is Jason Reitman, but Ivan is actually not. It's a fascinating movie of a story that is very meaningful to me because if you're an SNL fan, the history of SNL is truly really cool. But it's 70s, so if you don't like big collars and you don't like the movie stock that doesn't look HD, you may not like it, but it's a frenzied pace of...

It's perfectly choreographed. And the actors who play the Belushi and Chevy Chase and Dan Aykroyd are really good at being those characters. And there is not one minute where you're not enjoying it. So it's the opposite of the Ted Turner documentary. It's not slow at all. You will not check your phone. You will not be bored. And you may even learn something cool.

The name of his podcast is Nothing Personal. You can catch him every day live at 8 a.m. on YouTube. I will tell you again, as I always do when he's on with us, that there is no single person in sports media covering this particular amount of sports and business and other things ground as David Sampson is by himself on Nothing Personal every day, 8 a.m. Eastern. Thank you, David. Peace.

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