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I can't execute any of the shit I want to execute as a show and a company because he's afraid of all the things we've done around here and primarily what your father's done. Yeah, my dad's done a lot. I'm also scared. I just don't have the courage that he does.
The courage to call me a dick? Yeah. The courage to quit? Well, I'm just scared, Dan. The courage to threaten to quit? I'm so scared. I need you to tell me how to feel today. Tell me what to say. Tell me what not to say. I'm in a bad place right now, Dan. I will tell you what to feel because I am in here today and I'm not kidding when I tell you that I have not been this ready to do a show in 10 years. I am 100% engaged and I am 100% f***ed.
enraged, okay? Because the fear is the best thing about all of it. It's been 10 years since I've felt this. The better the fear, the better the fulfillment after you conquer the fear. The fact that everyone on this show is afraid of doubling down on the bet because they're afraid that their team, the best bleeping team, can't win this.
One game when they have two. When I keep telling you guys, game seven is the best thing. Give me overtime game seven. Give me overtime. Please stop. Give me all the stakes on fear because you believe in your team and you're willing to bet on your team. But you know what happens when you believe in your team and you want your team to win? You get really scared when they've got that guy.
That guy is going to make history, and you've got to stop him. He's teaching everyone in the sport that he's Gretzky, that he is the best. You've got to beat the best to win that cup. That's what we're doing. It wouldn't have been as fun in four games. This is what you need to make these things 10 years of memorable. Dick. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. ♪
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You guys don't like the fear. Mike Ryan's out here causing problems in the company, tweeting his complaints publicly instead of privately, saying I work with the most frustrating and most inconsiderate people imaginable. I'm 38 and I've had enough. I'm up in May of 2025. We all are, by the way. I co-produced a number one album and can do voices. We'll cut tape. I got...
a text from somebody sharing this with me and what they said is, "This is somebody who works with us. Somebody who works here. If this is a bit, I don't get it. This is somebody who works with Mike Ryan. He is infuriated with your father and everything we're doing in this series and he's furious with me even though I can't execute the things that I want and furthermore, when your father did this, I was not here!"
I was as far away from here as you could be while remaining in the contiguous United States. And I'm getting blamed nationally. Not you, Mike Ryan. Not you. Not even Greg Cody. Nationally, I'm the one being blamed for saying McDavid is overrated, even though I in no way endorse that take. What I do endorse is Greg Cody making a fool of himself nationally.
There was a tweet that compared you to Charles Manson. Yeah. And I think that hit it right on the head completely. Yeah. This is a Manson family murder. You're pulling all the strings. I,
Greg Cody is Greg Cody. The fact that anybody gave it oxygen is fairly ridiculous. You gave it the most oxygen. You are the villain here. You're complaining, I'm not doing what I want to do. I've got a montage of your Greg Cody tweets scrolling behind me. No, I'll tell you what I want to do. Hey, we're going to do this again.
I just want to talk about the game. We will talk about the game because that game ratcheted everything up to the place where it is today because McDavid beat the Panthers at their best, being their best in the third period, being their best toward the end. Kachuk makes a...
He makes a play with 18 seconds left that has to be, it cannot be considered anything but the best empty net save there has ever been. You might say to me that there is one as good somewhere in the history of hockey, somewhere as good. And I might agree with you if you show it to me, but you will not show me one better ever in the history of the sport. You will not show me one better than that. And what happens after that?
McDavid just promptly scores. No, the rest of the Panthers are at the other end of the ice just staring at the play so they get an easy goal. I think Martinuk had a really good one for the Hurricanes like a month ago in the game that they ended up getting eliminated in. There might be one as good. There cannot be one better. It was an incredible play and I
Look, the nature of the clock and the game scenario at that point was it was going to be pretty hard to have another opportunity to score. But at least you leave that game seeing that effort from Matthew Kachuk specifically who grew into the series in that game. Balls dropped big time. Kachuk, you go in there knowing that Kachuk has arrived in this series. But Ekman Larson just skates away from the play and ends up going in the net. And that was a huge bummer unless you had the third period over in an elimination game, which is an automatic bet.
You could say that Kachuk's balls dropped, but Ekman-Larsen dropped the ball. You cannot, in that game, with everyone playing that way, you cannot be someone who's skating around in circles like he's doing something on a Christmas skating rink in New York. You argue it's one of the best—I'm not even pushing back on it. We see that occasionally, especially in desperate moments like that. But Ekman-Larsen skates away because he assumed the puck was in the net.
Because how could Matthew Kachuk make that play in that spot? In many respects, Ekman-Larsen skating away from the play just speaks to how absurd that play was for Matthew Kachuk. But Ekman-Larsen, the Stanley Cup's on the line. You've got to be following the play. You've got to hope and pray that Kachuk makes that play. Let me talk to you guys a little bit because you've heard me over the years say some of the things that I love the best in sports.
desperate champion which is what the Panthers were trying to be in that third period is a great deal of fun to watch they were trailing the entire game McDavid did amazing things one of those things surrounded by four Panthers just skates right through four Panthers somehow because Barkov's not on the ice for three seconds and he takes out four Panthers but to be able to watch
with Canada with North America the expectation of can McDavid take out the best team this is the best team the Panthers in the third period all see all season they've been the best team in the league they were at home and once McDavid got them they've scored 10 straight goals the Oilers
Since the Panthers pushed them to the brink on the hardest trophy to get in sports, this is the greatest thing. What you wanted Tatum to be, Mike, McDavid is. You have to finish the best if you want that trophy. You asked Tatum, control the entireties of these games. McDavid is doing things in the postseason no one has ever done. Yeah, because he's had a really good two games. I don't...
I don't think that point doesn't exist if the Panthers sweep this series. You may need it because your infatuation with Game 7 and the fact that you don't actually care the way that we care, which is the disconnect here. We care.
care. You want a game seven in overtime. We wanted a sweep in four because it doesn't change. McDavid is that great. And the disconnect from the start of this was people not understanding how great Connor McDavid was. And it took you actually having to see it against the Florida Panthers to realize the fire you were playing with. Nope. I like playing with fire. I'm going to tell a story I have not told before. I don't think Tony and Jeremy know anything about this. I don't think Chris Cody knows it either.
It's a story about this show and about this company. And it's a story about Mike Ryan, frankly, because it's not a story a lot of people know. We had to make a choice during the pandemic about what we were going to do during a hugely uncertain time as the Clevelander physically fell apart. Like the building we were in was falling apart when we were making that scary decision during a pandemic. A decision I wasn't ready to make. A decision that everyone listening to this knows why we made.
and Stu Gatz and I were split on it. I wanted to go with DraftKings and he wanted to go with SiriusXM. SiriusXM had a bunch of structure and marketing. They put our names and billboards and stuff and they've done content before. DraftKings hasn't. And we were stuck. Stu Gatz and I didn't agree. And Mike Bryan's in there and he's the one with a baby. He's the one who's got to like worry about what the future is.
And Mike Ryan bet on DraftKings because Mike Ryan bet on us. This is the bet you're afraid of doubling down on? Putting up a billboard in Edmonton? To double down as a Panther fan, this is the bet that you're afraid of? I care more about Matthew Kachuk than I do my daughter.
How can you be afraid of doubling down on this? I haven't done anything that I've wanted to here. And you can accuse me of not caring like you do because nobody cares about this like you do. You interned for the franchise. It was my first job. No, but this is the team you care about most and it's the championship you want the most. It is. And I think people are seeing this is a cliche brought to life.
This is the hardest team trophy in sports to win because of the nature of how physical this sport is, because of the injuries people play with, because of the aspect of puck luck. This is a very difficult thing to win for the first time in its 30 years of existing. The Panthers are a game away, and I don't feel like making it all about nonsense, which is what this show is largely doing. And despite my objections, it's
to do. It's supposed to be hard. This path would not be more diluted if they won in four. The path was taking down the boogeyman in Tampa Bay who's been your absolute daddy. You got rid of them in the first series. Taking on Boston who hates your guts, who you upset came back
from 3-1 in the previous postseason who absolutely despises you and think they're just as good as you and you dismiss them. Then you go after the best goalie in the game and the New York market and a team that won the President's Trophy and then you take on Canada and the best player in the freaking world. There is no way that experience is diluted by four.
You need it to be six. You need it to be seven. That's on you. I don't need that. I just need to win on Friday. That's all. I need this cup like I need oxygen. And I don't like the silly games this show is playing around it. Because you're messing with something that I care about deeply.
No, this matters, and it doesn't matter how much you win it by. I mean, when you look at it, Dan, I'm thinking of like in 2011 when the Mavericks were playing the Heat, and it was LeBron James who had yet to win a championship. Do you think that Mavericks fans were like, oh, man, I really hope that this goes to overtime in seven games? Look, you guys can do this to me all you want because I had these arguments 10 years ago about Heat Spurs telling everybody the best part of the roller coaster is the fear. You got to be scared of some shit.
It makes all of it better. I know you all want to coast. We were wildly bored by the Boston Celtics. Their fan base, not at all. They loved all of it. Just crush everybody. I understand why regional fans would like that.
I understand, and you've got to understand that right now, regional fans, when I tell you this is heat all over again from 10 years ago, nobody wants your team to win. They're the lovable underdog, and everybody wants the favorite. Everybody wants that monster to get the trophy that he deserves because he's so obviously great. What do I want? My favorite thing.
The inside joke only our audience understands. We got that already. Yeah, you got it. We got it. You got it. Crystal clear. You got the fun. Steve Levy was dead. They filled a week's worth of content in between games. Like, you got it. You got it. And the best part about that is that it's not going at Greg Cody. It's going at Dan Leviton. Yeah, yeah. As it should. That's the best part. As it should. 100%. As it should. Thankfully, the audience is smart enough to realize that Dan is the villain here.
That is the part. Look at that Steve Levy pointing look. He's just like, Dan Levitard! I wasn't even in town when he did it. And when you say, Mike, that I don't care enough, I want to do a pregame show from right now till the end of game six. I want to not leave the air empty.
for 48 hours talking about this. I've wanted to do draft parties, live watch parties this entire time, but you're too busy at the games. Yeah, because I care that much. I've got to tell you, Game 5 was the most expensive loss I have ever endured. That was an expensive L to be catching. I sat next to a show fan, and he DM'd me afterwards. He's like, I'm really surprised at your poker face. Now, I didn't respond to him that I was on about 25 milligrams at the time.
But I was honestly just stunned after 3-0. I'm like, wow, what a terrible purchase that I made. Thank God I saved those $20 using the promo code DAN on the GameTime app. How are you guys not crushing Ekman Larson today for just skating around in circles with 18 seconds left? He did score before that. Actually, Ekman Larson got bumped up to the power play unit one because Brandon Montour has been so bad. Oh!
Montour's been really, really bad, making bad mistakes. The Florida Panthers have given up an NHL record five shorthanded goals this postseason. It actually feels like they've just surrendered that in the last two games. Let me hammer that home, what Mike just said. I'm just going to talk about this series. They're 1 for 15 on the power play and ready for their goal differential? Minus 1.
On the power play, I'm telling you that is an insane stat. They're negative one on the power play in this series. That is devastating to hear you say out loud. That is crazy. We joked a few episodes ago about declining penalties. I had people at the game walk up to me and ask me, hey, do you think that they're allowed to decline the penalty? And I was like, we talked about this on the show days ago. And no. It's wild. I love my chances if it's 5v5. Your top line against our top line. Let's do it.
And I think the stats bear that out. Florida's a better team. If Barkov's on the ice, if Forsling's on the ice, and McDavid's on the ice, we're winning that. And things have changed. Special teams, shorthanded opportunities, and the fact that Knobloch is putting McDavid on the ice seemingly every time Barkov comes off the ice to try to exploit that. And you're seeing what that results in. Eight points in the last two games.
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official sleep and wellness partner of the NFL. See store for details. Don Libetard. Are you back on the caffeine? Are you back on the Red Bull? Something's wrong. See, we are. Something's wrong. I mean, it's unbelievable how manic he is, and he's sort of just, he keeps,
He keeps, you know, chewing on his bottom teeth in a way that's scaring me a little bit. Stugatz. I've been up since 5.30 a.m. producing content. And in terms of being able to be on, my body needs a little boost. And that's why I turned to caffeine. This is the Dan Levitas Show with the Stugatz. Another conversation that needs to be had. Bob, the last seven periods. Clean it up.
That's it. Yep. Clean that shit up. No, he's got it. He did that. He did it in the Vegas series. I know we were beat up a lot of injuries. The Vegas series. He had an epic run up into the Vegas series and they kind of farted in that in that series.
I mean, the Conn Smythe, I don't know. What are the odds right now? Because he can't be the favorite for the Conn Smythe. Connor McDavid is the favorite, and I told you before Game 5, the way that you hedged this is Connor McDavid to win Conn Smythe, not Oilers to win the series because they're the same price. And McDavid is fully capable, if this goes six, to put in performances to win that trophy in a losing effort and be the first player since John Sebastian Jaguar with Anaheim to do so. And right now, he is the odds-on favorite, courtesy of DraftKings Sportsbook, to win the Conn Smythe no matter what.
That was the hedge, my man. So if you hedge that, you want a little two-goal performance from him while the Panthers win. You get a little conspire. Hold on a second. I want to analyze some of what it is that Mike Ryan just said and go back a second when you talk about Bobrovsky and remind you because this is not something you see a lot in the
from Stanley Cup champions. The Oilers at one point had scored 10 straight unanswered goals in this series. Usually, Bobrovsky is not going to allow 10 straight unanswered goals. And when you talk about changing odds, I haven't looked at them this morning. He's minus 200 courtesy of DraftKings Sportsbook. No, no, but let me give you, okay, so this is where it was, just so that you know, cons my thoughts before game five. Bob was minus 105.
Barkov was plus 105 and McDavid was plus 600. After game five, the last time I looked, I'm not looking at DraftKings odds right now, but Bob plus 600, Barkov plus 220, McDavid minus 160. At this point, it's now minus 200 for Connor McDavid, plus 300 for Barkov, plus 750 for Bob. 25% of the money is coming in on McDavid. It's McOverrated, please.
Call him by his name. I want to double down on the bet. I want to put up Greg Cody is right billboards right now. I want to double down on the bet. This is an embarrassing look. And there are so many Panther fans that told me at that game. And I related to you, Dan. What did I text you? I've got about a half dozen FUs that I need to relate to you because people are not mad at Greg Cody because they know Greg Cody is a goof.
They're mad at you for goofing around and tugging on Superman's cape and playing with fire and doing all these things that work against us. It's not just about the jinx. It's not just about that. Yes, I have superstitions. We all, most sports fans do. I don't want to dismiss that out of pocket.
It's about celebrating your own ignorance and bringing shame to this market. You're the biggest show in the market, and you want to make this whole thing a circus when I want to talk about do we bring in Nick Cousins to the fourth line or not? Mike, I understand that one of the many places that you and I have misaligned over the course of this week is that you want to do a vastly different show than the one I want to do.
But if this show isn't a 20 year celebration of our ignorance, I don't know what to put in front of people as a celebration of our ignorance. This is so look, I understand you don't like the silliness of this that happens to give access to people who don't want to hear about hockey on our show the way they've been hearing about it more than they have in the last 20 years. I understand why you don't want to celebrate Greg Cody rattling the cage on
of the best player in the world, a historically great player. But you're denying me my favorite joke? And I didn't do everything I've done over the last three years to have from inside my company the inability to tell my favorite joke. The only thing I've stood in the way of so far, to my knowledge, again, the walls are plastered with Cody memes right now. The only thing to my knowledge, I wanted to stop the shirts from being sold.
I, the only thing I've been able to stop is by saying, I will quit this company if you put up billboards, because I think that's a bridge too far. And like, you guys are just going to do what you want to do. And I want to make it about hockey. I've, I've been hard at work over the last few months trying to establish a timeline of this show, like for the first real time, like down to the minutia of what's happened to this show for the last 20 years. Yes.
We've had a handful of championships to celebrate. And throughout that, we've celebrated our own ignorance too. But we've also given you analytics experts talking about the corner three in important matchups. We've given you the hijinks, but we've also given you thoughtful guests. We've also given you interviews that don't circle around objects.
And I feel like I'm not even asking for a 50-50 balance. I want the seesaw tilted way up. I understand this is more of a niche sport than when we had the heat. Eight and a half million people across this continent are watching this game. It's up 61% over the last one.
This is something that I'd like to apply some balance to, to save this market, as they have rally towels that celebrate the fact that we're a punchline internationally, all six of us. We don't have fans. We don't deserve this. We don't have hockey IQ. We don't know what we're talking about. And what you're doing is holding up a magnifying glass to that ignorance. And I, as a lifelong Florida Panthers fan, I, as someone who, out of high school, was
went to that organization to learn, to want to be a part of it because it was my favorite thing in sports. You're celebrating ignorance at a time where it's a moment of arrival, where it's a moment of legitimacy for a lot of Panthers fans. And I never thought in my entire career, after all this show has done, after it's carried a market and brought it to national prominence, that I'd be through that arena, that entire arena, as this is going on, having the total opportunity
opposite feeling of the Miami Heat experience where you were the guy that was defending us. I never thought in a million years that I'd walk through that arena and get screamed at F Dan Lebitard. That's what's happened here. And that's an embarrassment. You can imagine my surprise that you're getting screamed F Dan Lebitard when again, you guys were here when Greg Cody said this. I am.
Admittedly, while in Los Angeles, did have delight when it came across my doorstep that Greg Cody had said it because it's so patently ridiculous and because I knew that he wouldn't recognize McDavid if he walked into his house with him.
the uniform on, number and everything, and I just took the name off the back, Greg Cody wouldn't know who that human being is. The fact that that is what represents our show to Canada that invented hockey brings me great delight because it's so stupid, because it's so ridiculous. To have all... You haven't done enough, though? Like...
You haven't thought? You've gotten it. It's being talked about by the people covering the game. Against my best wishes, you've done what you wanted to do. You're a degenerate gambler. Do you stop when you're winning? Do you stop? I hedge. I hedge. Where's your hedge? You're hedging now? You're preventing me from the thing I want to do. I want to double down on the stupidity. Dan needs McDonough to say it. You need McDonough to say it. You're not satisfied. The
What is it that you're not able to do? It's just the billboards? I haven't been able to do a live watch party. I've been wanting to do them for two weeks. Well, the people that are capable of talking hockey want to be at the games, want to be around this. Those are people I pay to work, to do a job that builds a startup company. All right, cool. Pay me extra for the Friday to take me away from my plans. I'll pay everyone extra here right now to just go right from now through the end of the game.
game tomorrow. Also, Dan, don't be hurt by this because I think I already articulated it quite well a few seconds ago. Do you? Why don't you take a victory lap? Why don't we get you to do a victory lap about how well you articulated that? I think the Superman leotard guy was in his car with his whole cape and the Ric Flair lookalike and they were slow clapping along what I told you. Dan, don't be hurt by this, but I want to be around people that care.
and don't want to make a joke out of this. I don't want to be here. Okay. I don't want to be here as my team has a chance to win a Stanley Cup. So let me explain. I'm kind of with him on that. I want to be with the people that have been in the trenches with me. The people that talked about Michael Froelich glowingly. The idea of being in this studio for a Panthers playoff loss and having indifferent Billy and Tony behind me just really doesn't do anything for me. What is that supposed to mean? That was a cheap shot for no reason. What is that?
I've been locked in on this series. Tony's here. I don't need you guys making more of a mockery around my passion and my caring. And you've made it plenty. You're doing it right now. I know I'm a cog in the machine. I don't want to keep doing it. I certainly don't want to be doing it during a game. Mike, this is the best...
thing in sports. What the Panthers are presently in the middle of. You've been hyperventilating around here for two seasons about how great the hockey has been all season. You were scared of a dozen teams this season that you thought were as good as the Panthers and through the
playoffs your team has been better than any of them and now they run up against a historic giant playing suddenly like the most historic giant that's the best it's the very best thing when you tell me I don't care it was always the best it was always the
best it was the best in game four and i'm not i'm not gonna give you the fear that you're looking for i think if the panthers play their best game and they somehow magically find a way to not surrender a 1-0 lead via the shorthanded goal i actually think the panthers are gonna win this game oh that was pathetic the way you delivered that that didn't have any strength behind it you're so scared
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Don Levitard. Our Panther group chat, we're confident against the Lightning. This is a different team. You're a Panther group chat, though. No, I think. No, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever, and I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the Lightning. Stugatz. I want t-shirts made for this Panther run. What could be this Panther run? Our Panther group chat, we're not afraid of the Lightning.
That's a tagline for World Rawr 3. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugats.
Tony, Chris Cody just came in here concerned about me, asking me if I should sit down and stuff because he said I was breathy. I was very breathy in the first. You were scared, Dan. I understand. I am scared and I am bothered as well. It's not just fear. I'm bothered as well as well by Mike care shaming me when I care like I to care.
To care the way maximum fan cares and to pale in comparison to maximum fan does not make my care insufficient. I'm not rooting for game seven overtime. I prefer they just win. But if you give me game seven overtime, thank God. It's the greatest. It's the best, the best of the things. Yeah, I don't believe you. I think you want a game seven. You've texted me quite the opposite. There are prisons. No, no, no. I did not text you quite the opposite.
You know what? I'm going to read this text exchange because I'm tired of the way you're behaving. You sound like a father. No, but I'm furious at him. At the time out? I sound like a father because he's threatening to run
to run away from home. Like, I'm trying to sit here. I've lived in this place for 20 years. I'm over it. I know. They don't usually actually run away. He's threatening to. Just going to run to the corner. That's the furthest away I've ever been able to get. And if Chris decides to call soccer games, I'm properly screwed.
I am going to try and find the beginning of this text string because he has been basically stubborn and awful for a couple of days. While you find it, Dan, let me... Me or you? There are care prisms, okay? I think Mike... Like, there's a care prism that is...
- Fandom, your prism is for content. You care-- - Your fandom. - You want the best content for the show, I think. That's the difference here, I think, in all of this. - We've struggled to meet the moment, and now I think we're doing it in an annoying fashion that, again, Dan, that had to cut you a little bit. You're not known as the guy that's like the Panther guy that's taking it to them and yeah, this is our fight for respect. You're part of the machine that's against us. - So this is what just happened.
This was the back and forth on the text Mike Ryan writes in you know lovingly about a half dozen bleep use I've been asked to relay. This is from the arena Yeah, I think you can understand that does come from a place of love just passing along a message And I was saying will be some fun when they win game seven and then I said or this third period No, and then and then Mike says you're never gonna get it dick. That's what it says right here. I
So that's me. And I think there was a space between you're never going to get it and dick, which means I marinated on it and then I decided, nah, I'm going to hit him with a dick. This is right after the game, though. It's an emotional time right after the game. No, I think this is as it's happening. No, it wasn't. This was the second period. Emotional time. No, they were down 4-2. Hey, not going to believe in my team. Not going to believe that they're better in the third period, even though they've been better in the third period. Oh, look who they have to
get over the overrated guy. They gotta get past the overrated guy. Oh, he's gonna make it difficult. Isn't that historically fascinating? That McDavid might be denied a trophy by no one, by a team no one in North America wants to win except Sunrise.
There you go. That's what you've got to lean into. You're the underdog. You're the guy that is clamoring for respect among the international hockey media, and instead you're just giving them all this ammunition to make more fun of us. I'm not giving them the ammunition. I'm going to play this clip from ESPN last night. Again, I have not said...
that McDavid is overrated. I do not endorse that opinion in any way. It's asinine. But look at what happens to me in the giggling on ESPN because I'm always taking the hits for you guys. Conor McDavid's saying it now and he's doing it on the biggest stage. Leave Buckle up. Don't get me going. He's all world, this guy. Overrated? Wait, what's going on? Dan Levitar.
Whose hit are you taking? Whose hit are you absorbing? You're absorbing your own hit. I didn't say he's over. We had both of them on the show and it's all we asked him about. I didn't say it. Dan, can you put me where you were mentally when you heard your name on the broadcast? Or were you watching on mute? I was horrified when it was sent to me. I wasn't watching the game because I don't care that much. God!
That's not true. I'm just fooling around. I think your emotional connection to this is you know how much Roy cares about it. You know how much Chris cares about it. You certainly know how much I care about it. Me too. And you want to see us happy, but you also want to get your jokes in along the way, and your jokes are hurting us. It can be both. Once they've won, you won't remember the jokes. It's fine.
If they lose, will you say sorry? Will you say sorry if we lose the next two? You have already ruined this to a degree for me. You don't understand. I'm still confident. If we lose this series, I was going to make my dad apologize to me. And I was going to make him mean it. And now you're in that category. No, no, no. It was just going to be my dad. And now you're going to have to apologize too. If you're okay with that, fine. Yeah.
You say... Apologies don't... People say that and they don't mean it. I was going to pull him aside in a moment just between us two and I'm just like, you know, you hurt me. You mean it. Speaking of apologies and meaning it, because this is funny. When you say you think I want you and Roy to feel good, Roy is now headed to Edmonton. Again, four different flights. He's headed back there. How many? Again, four. Happy Juneteenth to Roy yesterday.
I wanted to do a show. That's another thing I was denied, by the way. That's the universe's sense of humor, the cosmos, me making the black people work on Juneteenth or trying to for hockey.
which is what I wanted to do after that loss because I was so fired up. But when you say wanting you guys to win for you, Taylor told me that Stugatz said to Roy, pulled him aside the other day and said, Roy, I'm really rooting for you. I'm really going to be happy for you. I want you to win it.
the next game. And then someone told Stugatz nearby, Stugatz, if the Panthers lose, we have the day off on Wednesday. And he walked out saying, go Oilers. He actually said, go. And then Roy hacked his Twitter account. What happened there? What happened with Stugatz's Twitter account? I mean, Stugatz's password absolutely is password. That's what happened there. Password one. Put it on the poll, please, at Levitard Show. Is Stugatz's password password?
What happened? How did he get what is the backstory on him getting hacked? I mean, I don't know. It's a legacy account. So it's like anything. All our data is just being sold on the dark web and they found a mark. And he doesn't even know he's been hacked. I don't even think he knows where where is he?
The Zaslow clip that we have, thankfully, one reasonable person out there doesn't blame me for this ridiculous take. But Zaslow is in a position where he will never forgive Greg Cody. Let's listen to an insane Zaslow infuriated with Greg Cody again.
Maybe it doesn't make a difference, but McDavid knows. I mean, they told the story how McDavid's father knows. He knows about Greg Cody. He knows that he said it. Conor McDavid knows. It's not going to, like, maybe nothing happens, but maybe something happens. It certainly doesn't help with that bull—
I'm telling you, if the Panthers don't win this series, I'll never forgive Greg Cody. It's a million times worse than the trade Marino article. A million times worse. I will never forgive him.
Mike. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. I won't either. It is what he becomes remembered for in this market. He's the guy that decided it was a good idea before the Stanley Cup final to give the best player on the planet by what would appear to be a wide margin now bulletin board material. What a legacy for Greg Cody. It's such a comeback for his career, dude. I'm telling you. That's huge. I'm impressed by it. It is.
Because I didn't think my dad could ever write anything. I don't want to be mean. I just thought I didn't know he could get on the main broadcast. The fastball was past him. That's what it was. He got his fastball one more time. Sold his ignorance short. I always thought he's so primed for aggregation. But I didn't think he would be with McDavid. I've been telling him to do this for years. Say the thing. He must be so mad. It doesn't matter.
He must be so mad that they're blaming Dan and not him by name, right? He wants his name behind it on the broadcast. He's loving he's mad that Steve Levy in a skin tone that I would maybe describe as elbow room. Right. He's mad that he said Dan Levitard and not Greg Cody, because if he he wants this to be all about him. But the truth is bubbling to the surface.
Dan is the puppet master. Stugatz, I have nothing to do with it. Stugatz called it Boca Beach Club Red on Steve Levy. Greg Cody will be in with us tomorrow because we are going to pregame show it the way I really do want to do it. Nobody here wants to do it with me, but I really do. I'm good with a pregame show. Yeah, I know. You guys aren't good with a 48-hour pregame show, but I believe we... A hockey pregame show of Dan Levitard and Greg Cody is like Stugatz leading a pregame show on foreign policy.
You might be surprised. I am tired of your hockey elitism and snobbery. You're not welcoming of anything. No, no, no. I am. No, no, no. This is what you do. And you have been someone who...
who snorts 40 hockey podcasts a day and then shame the person who's snorting 38 of them because they're not doing as much as you are because you want to maximum care and be somebody who's caring more than Bill Zito. Let's play the video there of an enraged Bill Zito throwing shit because everyone's crazy because...
I simply can't believe, as much as I can't believe that Greg Cody finds himself in the middle somehow of the Stanley Cup final, I can't believe after 30 years as you do this to me, okay, I'm the one who flew to Doug McClain's parents' house to watch them lose the Stanley Cup final.
In Prince Edward Island. So for game four in 96, you were in McLean's parents' house? Yes, I was at McLean's parents' house, and I have cared... That's a bona fide if I've ever heard one. I've cared about this team for as long as you have cared about this team, and for about...
28 of those years, they broke my caring because Pavel Burry would get to the playoffs and then they'd get swept and it wouldn't matter that they had Pavel Burry. To watch that team...
Play the best in the sport. The Russian rocket. And enrage Canada. And enrage Canada because nobody who respects hockey wants the Panthers to win, even though the Panthers are playing exactly playoff hockey. Their entire... I respect this franchise so much, Stugatz. I've seen the last couple of days here, okay? Monty Williams gets fired, and they say when you're...
That was an interesting verbal tick. Did you recognize what happened as it happened? You said you addressed Stugatz as if he were in the studio. That's amazing. What an incredible moment. Can you get me the sound of Stugatz's soundboard to just help me lightly so that when I do that, it's not quite so obvious that he's not here?
Just general sounds from him so that I can have the loving soothing of me. I've always heard of like old AM radio DJs like giving time and temp in the middle of like real life conversations. There are times I'm arguing with people out in public and I'll say Stugatz when they're not Stugatz just because that's what gets triggered when I'm arguing. You can't be doing this to Florida Panthers fans. Four past the hour. Yeah.
Now you've distracted me on what it is that I was saying. You were talking about how much you've cared for this organization and how you stopped caring after a while. And my whole thing in hearing you is I do actually think while most...
The Panthers come into this with a reputation really built over last year. If you watch them this year, Matthew Kachuk in particular and this team, they're far more disciplined. Yeah, they had penalty minutes and they were among the leaders, but they're not the same kind of team. They have some maturity, and I do think for the most part, people were impressed by them, their composure this postseason, and were actually rooting for them against Canada. Yeah.
Until now. You've made us a team that was just starting to turn the corner in terms of likability. You've made them very unlikable. I've made them that. And our fans, too. There were people booing the Canadian national anthem. Nothing special.
pisses me off more than that. You get three people booing that thing and it becomes a thing and rightfully so. I honestly thought we were going to be worse with that. Yeah. I had such low expectations for us. I thought we were going to be... Because they're very respectful to ours. You know you're going to run into some of the act like you've been there before when we literally never have. But I just...
I think this show hasn't exactly met the moment. I think our fans could meet the moment a little bit better. And I really hate that a team that is so susceptible to pot shots is giving people that are so wanting to deliver those all the ammunition that they need.
Summer's the best time to run the way you want. Dial it up with new challenges and programs and bring your workouts with you to make the most of outside sunny days. Stugatz, guess what? What? You know what you can do with Peloton? What? Get the app, go outside, ride a bike. Well, I thought you ride Peloton inside. Well, you do, you can ride Peloton inside if it's a rainy day or if it's cloudy or you just don't want to get outside, maybe it's too hot.
summertime, go outside. I record a lot from my office with you and you've noticed it's sitting there yet. It hasn't been used. Well, now's the time. Summer's the best time to start that push. Right. Can we do it together? Not on the same bike, but we could join a class together. I used to do that. We used to have Guillermo Tan. I'd invite people. We'd all take a class together. Okay. So I think you're starting to get concerned about my health and my age, Billy. I,
I sense that with you. We're beyond starting. Okay. Whatever road lies ahead, your training starts here with Peloton Tread and Tread Plus. It's not just a bike, a treadmill too. I'm going to go outside. I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to do it with Billy Gill. I want to be in your class. I want you to be my instructor. You know what? I won't be your instructor. You don't want to spend more time with me. No, I can schedule a class and we can ride together. I won't be the instructor of the class. We can have Camila could be our instructor. I like the Grateful Dead class. My daughter, she uses the Peloton. Mm-hmm.
She was on it once and an instructor who was playing Grateful Dead tunes. Let's do that. Okay. Why don't we go for a run outside? Guided run. Peloton. Me and you. That's something we can do together. Okay. Turn on the app. Me and you go outside. Enjoy the summer. Call yourself a runner with Peloton at onepeloton.com slash running. All right.
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