Hour 2: Stugotz Issues An Apology
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This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stukas Podcast. Chris, why are you obsessed with the Syracuse coach? Oh my God, I'm so glad we got to this. As my dad is clackety-clack-clacking away on his typewriter. Dad, we've started. Greg, we've started. We're doing show. We're doing show, Greg. You've got to put your headset on. You've got to stop your clackety-clacking. Is this the Syracuse football coach?

This is the Syracuse football coach, and they took a tough L this week. And I'm just going to let this guy speak for himself, but I am mesmerized by this. Honestly, I got like a ritual. Like when we lose, I ain't even getting a shower until early this morning. I just be mad. I just brush my teeth.

But it's like I don't deserve soap. I don't deserve to do all that. I just I'm just focused on like trying to get back and trying to make sure that our players mentally understand and know that I let them down, that they didn't do it. There's a process that I follow every week. One loser draw. Only thing is like my wife. I can't sleep in the bed if we lose because I ain't going to get in the shower for that day. I'm just mad and I just sit there. I just brush my teeth. That's what I have to do. So I won't say my breath stink, but I'm just

Just kind of locked in on certain things, certain ways. I think you got to earn the right to do certain things. So, you know, winners get washed. You know what I'm saying? I'm a loser. I just kind of waited a little bit. I'm just confused on the distinction where win or lose, your teeth get cleaned.

But to me, it would just be like one thing. Like after a loss, I don't wash anything. Or he's just like my knees, my back, no soap for me. But I need toothpaste. Obviously, I need toothpaste. Seems willy-nilly. I don't think so. I think it's principled. And I think he's being a nice man by protecting us from his breath. The rest of him is not likely to stink the way that his breath would stink unbrushed. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Levitard Show. Do you have to earn your soap?

at Levitard Show. That's insane to me. Winners get washed is what the logo, the motto he's trying to go with. It's like a coffee is for closers thing. No, washing is not for you. It's for others. You are around other people. Wash yourself, man. All right. Put that on the poll as well, Juju, at Levitard Show. Washing for you?

Or for others, because I don't feel like I'm washing for others, but he was definitely brushing his teeth for others. But he said he can't sleep in the bed with his wife because he stinks. You're washing for her, not for you. What happens if they lose their bowl game? I mean, this is not going to be pretty. That's a long offseason. Fuck.

I've never heard of the phrase having to earn the right to take a shower. I've never heard of that before. You like it, though. He has invented that, and I give him credit for it. Fran Brown is his name, incidentally, because I feel like we're all talking around that for some reason. We know his name.

Florida Georgia coach. Does a shower in the pool count here? Yes. Can you do that after a while? No, that doesn't count. That does not count. It always counts. That does not count. I have not heard of Izzy's theory there of cleaning for others. I don't believe that that is something that one does. I clean for myself to remain clean, not for others.

others it's not because i don't want to stink for others it's because i don't want to stink for myself so when you give yourself a little whiff you're not worried about other people smelling it it's just you i'm also worried about other people smelling it but i don't want to smell myself smelling bad it's not because i'm trying to protect anybody from anything i think body is for others hair is for yourself because everyone everyone likes their own brand they're both

for both. Even when I smell bad, I'm like, that's not terrible. Not my hair. Also, I don't like washing my hair. I said Florida Georgia coach. I meant to say former Georgia coach. I knew what you meant. Florida slipped out. I started thinking of an F word and the first one was Florida. Which is what I've been thinking for the last week. So that was a verbal typo. My hair looks better when it's dirty. Honestly. According to whom? I've never seen your hair.

Ever? No, you always wear a baseball cap. I imagine you shower with a baseball cap. Like, I never see your hair. You never come in here without a baseball cap. You never work a work day without a baseball cap. Do you? Yeah, sometimes. Every now and then. I like your hat today, by the way. Thank you. I got it for a...

For Arizona, the trip we just came on was part of the bird gang. How did I do in fantasy this week? Great question, Jess. Listener League, not a good week for me. Finished in the low 400s again. If you want, you can compete against us. Join GFBs, GBFs.

weekly fantasy football contest. DKNG.co slash Smirnoff presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. $3. That's all it takes to kind of join and you can win a lot more than that if you're at the top. I was not. Again, 400th place. But yeah, I know how I feel about this string across the top of the hat.

It's been controversial. I've heard a lot of people really, really hate it, but I think it's kind of neat. I don't know. It's not bad. It looks like piping on really old curtains. I don't think it looks modern. It's in, though. String along the brim of the hat. I like the added texture. I don't think it's that bad, but people have really hated the hats this year.

I didn't know that it had this on it when I purchased it. I got it on Fanatics and I got it because I didn't want to spend a ton of money right beforehand because that's what I did in Chicago. So I said, you know what? I'm going to go Fanatics. There's always a sale on Fanatics. If you pay full price, you're a fool. Always a promo code. So I had it ordered to my house. I did a week and a half beforehand. It got there, Dan, I know you're wondering, 25 minutes before I left for the airport. A week and a half later, almost missed it. I can show you how to ramp it if you want, Billy. Really? Okay, thank you. Let's do that. It's very easy to expense. Okay.

Have you guys seen the hats that are like the upside down letters? They're very popular right now and I think they're very cool and I want to buy one but I have a feeling that in like three months they're going to be so out. It's kind of dumb. I'm not going to lie, Lucy. I think it would look cool for a few weeks and then we're going to just be like, why do we have our

letters upside down on the hats again? The Florida Panthers have one that says Panthers upside down. What's the point of that? Exactly. It's cool. It's wacky. They're aesthetic, but I can tell it's a trend and not something wrong standing. It's not going to last. Upside down letters, they're not going to last, guys. They're not.

I'm not the only person whose hair looks better when it's dirty. Yeah, day two. That's my best look. The day after you wash your hair looks better than the day you wash your hair. The day I wash my hair, if I put in conditioner, it's a mess. Don't they say you're not supposed to wash your hair for like three weeks? Yeah, I hate that, right? Studies say that. That's not accurate. They said that. Jeans and hair, we don't know when to wash them.

That's not true. I don't know about that. Some people never wash their jeans. The pants? I wash my jeans. I feel like you should wash your jeans. Some people have different rules about jeans. Well, you're not supposed to wash them after every wear. See? There we go. That's what I'm saying. We can't agree. There's no, like, this is the rules on this. You know what? I don't know suits. Do you dry clean a suit every time you wear it? You have to.

That's what I'm trying to figure out. It's what you did. Every time you wear it, you have to dry clean it. It's a lot of dry cleaning, but like, if I'm on the dance floor. Billy, if you wore a suit into the office as a bit for like a one hour show, I would not get that dry cleaned. But if you're dancing the night away. If you wore a suit to a wedding, I would get that dry cleaned. I have a dirty little secret. Ooh.

Is it your hair? No, no. I washed it today. That's why you're not going to see it. I had a dirty little secret. I dry cleaned a suit the other day and I had a two-suit weekend. Like a situation where I needed to wear a suit twice in the same weekend. What a weekend. It was something. And then I had a decision to make. Do I wear two different suits or...

Or dare I wear the same suit twice because there was only two people along with me. Well, I guess my children also. But two adults along with me that would know that I wore the same suit back-to-back days. Change the shirt.

but I didn't wear a tie the second time. Who are those adults? My wife and my mother-in-law. So I was trying to figure out, I was going to wear a different suit the second day, and then I was like, do I jack it, do I not jack it? That's a whole thing. Because here's the thing. First one, baptism. My daughter's baptism, have to wear a suit for that. I knew one of these was a baptism. Yeah, my daughter's baptism. Had to do it for that. The other one, a quinceanera. So what do I do for a quinceanera? How do I go dress to this quinceanera? Do you need a suit for that?

That was the question. No time. And then I don't know. Do I go suit jacket? Do I not? Because you don't want to be overdressed. You don't want to be underdressed. So I ended up going suit jacket.

No tie shirt, and then I was wearing a very similar color scheme to the father of the daughter And I was like oh I'm glad I didn't wear a tie because we would look like twinsies also fun fact ding-dong Who's there Jorge Soler at the Keen says wow wow like like a paid appearance, or he just knew? In uniform getting paid like six grand just to be there. I didn't dance I

Just kind of hanging out with kids, playing on the phone. You should have asked him for a dance. No, no. My daughter kept dancing with his wife and his daughter, and I was like, can you please stop it? You're embarrassing me. So you didn't talk to him? We don't know this hilarious. No, I didn't talk to him. What was I going to say? Missed opportunity. Ding dong. Then the next day he was traded to the Angels.

Huh. Weird weekend. These are all just things that happened. Facts. Not connected. Just all facts. Why wouldn't you just talk to Jorge Soler? He was with his family. I didn't want to bother him. Why would I bother him? He was playing with his kids. Because you were a fan and are a fan. I didn't even know it was him. Someone told me. At a wedding. You didn't know it was him?

No. Do you think I'd walk around with Jorge Soler's baseball card checking to see who it was? I'm guessing none of us would know. Okay, hold on a second. If you entered a room and Jorge Soler was there, I don't think that you would know it was him right off the bat. Billy, I watched the Marlin season when he hit 30 home runs. Yes, I would. What are you talking about? I don't think so. In this scenario, I have him in a Braves uniform. So that's why I would recognize him. Would you know Joey Wendell? More.

More difficult, but again, Soler hit 30. He was in the lineup every day for a year. Yeah, but he wasn't wearing his Marlins jersey at this thing. And he's played for the Giants and the Braves. He didn't have his number's name on the back of his suit. I think you think it's easy until you have to do it. Exactly right. But what if he went home and he was sad no one recognized him and that he was there? I'm with Billy, though. I always lean against...

Leave him alone. Yeah, he's there with his family. My dad did. Me and my dad a few weeks ago were at Hooters before bowling, as we do, and we saw a former Marlins player. I'm not going to say his name. Why? He's protecting him. Hooters is not illegal, Chris. He's protecting him from Hooters like it's a strip club. Look, every time I say names around here, everyone's like, oh, they didn't want to. No, it's when you take pictures of Craig Minervini and he doesn't know you're doing it and you post them. Dude, that was like 10 years ago. Relax. But that's different, though. What?

So name names. My dad, because I was like, ooh, there's that person. I'm not going to go up to them. My dad was just like walked right up to him. Like, hey, what's up, man? Good to see you. That's good. Yeah. He's a legend. He doesn't care. It was Charles Johnson, the former captain. Ah, CJ. And I have a relationship with him. We're not great friends, but I know enough to, you know, schmooze with him. Yeah. It was an awkward conversation. No, it's polite. That's how you build source.

I bet you CJ enjoyed it, right? Yeah, I was hoping he'd buy me a beer. He never did. You know, but I like him anyway. Dan told us a story just last week that he saw Pudge and he asked him about his statue. Like, that's what you do when you see people. If anything, I was in the... Well, I don't have a relationship with Jorge Soler. You avoided Soler! I didn't avoid him. You actively avoided Soler. He didn't know he was there. Even though you're a fan, he did know he was there. He was told he was there. I was told, yeah. Someone said, do you know Jorge Soler? He's a baseball player. He's over there. And I was like,

Yeah, he was on the Marlins. Billy, he was at this party. No one recognized him or said hi. And he probably texted his agent and said, get me out of this town. No one watches baseball here. They don't know who I am. I need to go to a real baseball club. Well, he was in Atlanta last year. Yeah, he's been traded like three times since he left the Marlins. Yeah, poor guy. Oh, really? Now he's in Anaheim? Then there's no way you ought to recognize him. Can I betray confidence here? My mother-in-law afterwards was like, you know...

he's probably a multi-millionaire. And I'm like, oh, I know. And then I looked him up. I'm like, yeah, 130 multi-millions. He's made so much money. Could you imagine making $130 million and then going to a quinceanera on 8th Street on a Sunday night? How much do you think he paid the birthday girl? I was wondering that, too. You have to give a good gift, right? Like 10 grand, right? That's why it was invited, right? No chance. No, I think that it was like cousins of the mother of the girl. Man, where can't that guy bat 220 and hit 30 home runs?

I am legitimately surprised that Billy would watch as many Marlins games as he does and not recognize one of their best players. I don't go up and just bother people also. Like, that's another thing. Why would I do? And also, like, why would I just assume if someone looks like Jorge Soler, they're Jorge Soler at a family member's quinceanera? There's no connection there in my mind. Why would I think that? Like, if Tom Cruise was there, I'd just be like,

Hey, you're Tom Cruise. You definitely belong here. No, you never think to say hello to him. Penelope Cruz, maybe, but not Tom Cruise. But Jorge Soler, absolutely. I mean, he's Hispanic. He played in Miami. He's got relatives. He can go to a quinceanera, sure. I saw, I think it was, now this is weird. I saw, I think it was like,

Who was it? It was Gurriel. Did he play for the Marlins too? I think I saw Gurriel. Was he on the Marlins? Yeah. So I saw him when I was driving to work one day coming out of his house. It was one of those days that Waze puts you and takes you on all these weird back roads. And then I was looking and I was like, wow, that's a green Lamborghini truck. That seems like a weird fit for this house. And then I saw the person coming out and getting their mail and it was him. And I was like, hmm.

You lived there. Cool. You recognized him immediately. I did, yeah, because he had a hairstyle that you would remember. And again, he has a green Lamborghini, so you see it and you're like, okay, who has a green Lamborghini?

How is the group? Look at me booing. That's who has a green light. Me or him. I almost hit Josh from the challenge with my car the other day. What? Yeah, driving down the street. My friend almost hit Bruno Mars with her car. Really? Yeah, that was crazy. He was not happy about it. Yeah. Sorry, Dan. How?

How is the group about approaching people that they know or don't know in public who are famous and they admire? Because I would think that this group would have a number of different responses to that kind of situation. I imagine Stugatz in all of those situations being shamelessly aggressive about asking for things. How hammered am I?

I'm sober and I'm totally fine with it. So I don't care. I'll approach anyone and talk about anything. It's, you know, small talk. You got to like you got to work your way into the conversation and then suddenly you become friends. And the next thing you know, he's on the show. I mean, that's how I do it. Wow. Yeah, I'm the opposite. I'm shy enough where I'm not going to introduce myself to someone. Right. Hey, so and so, I love your work or, you know, if I haven't met the person previously, I do not go up to them.

One time, Dan, I was sitting on a plane next to Stanley Tucci. Wow. Really? Yeah. That is big. Stanley Tucci? Yeah. And I said to myself before I fell asleep, I had the window, and I was like, wow, Devil Wears Prada, I got to say something to him, but not now because it's weird. There's a three-hour flight, so I just go to sleep.

And as I'm waking up, getting off the plane, hey, Tooch, love you and Devil Wears Prada. And then we move on. Wow. I love him so much. That's the way to do it. You either don't say anything or you're just like real quick, like appreciate your work and walk away. But I've had this before where it's like I'm sitting at like a dinner, like I'm at dinner with someone. And at the very end, they're like, hey, big fan of the show. That's almost creepier. It's like, oh, so you've been sitting here the whole time. Like, I'd rather you do it on the front end, if I'm being honest.

Just like, Tucci, big fan of your work. I'm going to go to sleep now. Like, doing it at the end, it's just, it makes me. No, because then he's uneasy the whole flight, Chris. He's wondering, is he going to continue to talk to me? Is he looking up my IMDb right now? Yeah, but Tucci is sitting there at the end of the flight saying, was that guy thinking about me the entire flight? He thinks that you were looking at him the whole flight. Like, oh, man, I'm saying this to Stanley Tucci. He definitely, famous people notice when you glance at them and recognize them, even if you think you didn't. Even if you think you did it slyly, he knows that you knew. Yes.

So you're saying I should have said something earlier? Well, I would have because I thought I could win him over as a friend. So that's a different conversation. The thing that I don't think you guys are allowing for, and the only reason that I'm saying this is because it's happened to me one time that I could remember. I'm in the Louvre, and I'm looking at Jason Lee, and...

I'm looking at him with the same look that he's looking at me, which is I'm like, is that Jason Lee? And he seems to be like, is that Dan Lebitard? Because some of you are actually known. There is the possibility that Billy can run into Jorge Soler and that Soler. Now, Soler is not a great example. Soler was not sitting there thinking, who is that? Yeah, I know. Billy going to come say hi to me? It's happened. It has happened to people on our show with middle relievers, with people in the

bullpen who will look up in the stands and be like i listened to your show it has happened and so i'm saying it can happen when you're looking at somebody not sure if they are who you think they are and they're looking at you not sure if you are who they think they are do you ever have people come up to you and they ask if you're who you are and you say no i had someone come up to me and be like are you lucy and then he was like actually lucy's a lot taller than you are

And I was like, yeah, I'm not her, but I do get that all the time. And then he kept talking to me about me, and he was like, yeah, she's like several inches taller than you are. And I said, yeah, I've never met her. I don't know. And then eventually someone came up and called me Lucy, and he was like, are you serious? And I was like, oh, yeah, gotcha. That's probably a better experience. But he said nice things about me, just that I was short. I saw Terrell Suggs at the Louvre once. Ah.

I took a picture with him and I was like, hey, I mean, all my girlfriends, this was in college, all my girlfriends were like, who is that? And I was like, don't worry about it. We're taking a picture with Terrell Suggs. So we took a picture with him and then I was like, by the way, I'm a Steelers fan. And he was like, ah, screw you. And I was like, ah, screw you.

Screw you. The Louvre is the place to go. It really is. Where is this place? Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Is the Louvre the place to go? So did Jason Lee come up to you? How did that story end? No, we just sort of stared at each other and made that recognition very, very clearly. The story was different to me because I thought you said the Louvre.

And you were staring at each other in the bathroom. That felt different. Remember when that guy at Magic City said that Woody was taking a shit in the bathroom? Well, he went and talked to him while he was doing that, which seems incredibly invasive. And that is not something I would do to anybody in the world. Although I do have a friend who was bragging one time about being in this scene, like an awful story. It just it felt unpleasant. All of it being at a nightclub and.

and having Jim Brown's hand come down under the partition and be like, can I have some toilet paper? There's no toilet paper over here. He knew he was sitting next to Jim Brown. Jim Brown was sitting next to him, and then Jim Brown's hand comes out. That's a story right there. That is awesome. The hand of Jim Brown. I cannot spare a square.

Dan, before the show ends today, I want you to be aware of something. A fan sent us two hats, one for you and one for me, from Incarnate Ward, the school in Texas that we talked about last week that you could not pronounce the name of. And they were like, someone else, I don't know if it was the same person, but they sent me a tweet and they were like, thanks for standing up for Incarnate Ward. And I was like, I didn't say anything nice about Incarnate Ward. I simply pronounced

the name incarnate word correctly so we got hats because of that. Okay, excellent. Thank you for the contribution. I still can't pronounce it. Incarnate Ward is how I pronounce it. No, that's a wide receiver. That is not correct. I got it wrong. Hines Ward.

There it is. Just a useless joke. Just useless. It's the Kornheiser humor. I'm telling you, there's an age, I think it might be 70, where all you've got in the tank on your humor is you just say another ward that is like the previous word. Tamward. That's correct.

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Okay, here it is. Sorry. Adultery. We are back. We're waiting for this one. This is the Don Levitas Show with the Stugats. Stugats.

Five, four, three, two, one. How about that? Did I do it right? Well, you're supposed to say something after that. Oh, are you? Yeah, after the countdown. What do I know? Chris wanted you to start the segment there. That's scary. Yeah. I don't think you want to trust me to start a segment. Well, you seem like you were scared of it, so. I was. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm like a horse in a trailer at 85 miles an hour. I'm terrified. No, they're not. I know. I'm just kidding. You were two for two. But you're into this Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight, aren't you? You know, I am. And I'm not a big pay-per-view guy. Right. But I think I might fork up some money to watch this fight. Well, luckily, if you have Netflix, I think you're good. Oh, am I? Yeah, it's just on Netflix. You're already paying for it. Oh, there you go. Okay. I don't know. Pay-per-view, what do I know?

It's very confusing. I'm with you. It is confusing. You're right. PPV. I'm the world's biggest Mike Tyson fan until the fight's over. Then I don't really care. But I'm just not a big Jake Paul fan. I think this is a classic Greg Cody in his 70 years old still thinking he can kick a 50-yard field goal. This is you thinking that Mike Tyson can still be

the Mike Tyson of old. I think a lot of people are worried about Mike Tyson in this fight. Okay, I get that. That if he takes a blow from Jake Paul, that this could do some serious damage to an older man. You think your dad is headed into it with the expectation that Mike Tyson is still going to be Mike Tyson? Yes. Yeah. I...

Think this. I think Mike Tyson has enough in a punch where if he lands one just right, it will hurt Jake Paul. Oh, Jake Paul will be out. Yes. I'm not counting on stamina. I'm not counting on him being the Mike Tyson of old for five rounds. I'm counting on a quick finish offensively.

A quick strike that—and I know there's a big height advantage. I imagine there's a reach advantage as well for Jake Paul. I'm curious what Tyson looks like after that first two minutes of, like, he's going to come out. He's going to try to do his thing. Can he—does he have his wind? But I think what your dad is saying is Tyson has to get it done inside of two minutes or he's not going to get it done. Pretty much. What if this is just Mike Tyson and Jake Paul looking for a payday and they're going to play patty cake? And everyone's going to be like, oh, this is not a real fight. This is clearly just them—

And look at all the suckers watching this fight. And they're just dancing around the ring. Right. Because, like, they are friends. Like, I just find, I don't know, man. I understand why your dad doesn't like Jake Paul. I think it's not that you don't like him. It seems like a boxing gimmick, the whole thing. It does. Yes. It does. No, I admit that. And what makes me suspicious is the idea that, all right, somebody's going to win. There's going to be a rematch.

The other guy is going to win, and then there's going to be the big third fight where the winner takes off. No, I don't think Tyson has multiple fights in him. He's got two minutes in him. I mean, I don't know. He looks good for his age. He's only 58. He's not that old. Right, but for that to play out, Tyson has to win the first one, I think, right? I mean, okay, so I just Googled what their paydays are supposed to be for this. The expected purse for Jake Paul is $40 million. Okay.

and the expected purse for Mike Tyson is $20 million. Why is that? How is that possible? I know Jake Paul is a draw, but the last few fights of his have not been that popular. Everyone's talking about this one. Mike Tyson, to me, that should be a 50-50 split on that money. I don't know how this works, but I'm honestly wondering how you generate $60 million off of this fight on Netflix, which is a subscription-based thing, and they're not charging for the fight. I don't think anybody...

anyone is signing up for Netflix to watch this fight that doesn't already have it, right? - So how the purse is so big. - And what is the gate gonna be? Like it just seems like, I guess they're gonna sell some advertising in it, but like how are you generating this much money that you're guaranteeing Jake Paul $40 million for a fight?

But in terms of the disparity in how much they're getting paid, and we all agree Tyson should be getting paid more. Well, at least the same. Let's just say that. I think more. But is it? It's a Jake Paul production, is it not? I believe it's his company. He's got a whole production company. Right. So that's probably why he gets more money. So he's taking the bigger... Yeah, he's... He's probably paying for everything.

Right. You know what I mean? Like where Mike Tyson is just getting paid to show up. He's getting $20 million with no expenses, you know? I would think, and this obviously I'm probably going to sound dumb for saying this, but I would think Jake Paul is probably bringing more eyes to this fight than Mike Tyson.

So I would agree with you, Billy, but for people like me and Greg Cody, we don't want to believe that. No, I know that. We probably know it, but we don't want to believe it. By the way, I would also say that Mike Tyson is bringing more eyes to a Jake Paul fight than a Jake Paul fight against someone else would also, if that makes sense. I agree on both counts. Like, I think, okay, let me rephrase this. I think if Jake Paul was having a fight and Mike Tyson was having a fight, Jake Paul would outdraw a Mike Tyson fight at this point in time.

But I feel like Mike Tyson going to a Jake Paul fight would outdraw any other Jake Paul fight that he could possibly have. Agreed. So the two of them together is a perfect match. Where does Jake Paul go from here? I mean, he should take a fall. Honestly, I know people are saying that Mike Tyson will take a fall. If Jake loses and they make this like and it's like competitive enough that they make this trilogy. Oh, man. Wouldn't that be great?

I'm reading that Jake Paul has predicted that this will get 25 million viewers, which would be by far the most watched boxing match of all time. But to Billy's point, it's not pay-per-view. Netflix is already something you're paying for.

Which is why he's predicting so many viewers because so many people already have Netflix. Right. By the way, ESPN Plus does it with UFC, right? Where you're like, oh, it's like they have their deal with ESPN Plus and you have to pay for ESPN Plus, but then you have to pay for the UFC fight on top of the ESPN Plus.

That's not how this is working with this fight, to my understanding. You just, if you have Netflix, you can watch it. You turn on Netflix, the fight is there. So I understand what you're saying, Chris, in terms of telling us the audience of what Jake Paul expects, but no one's paying for it.

Because they're already getting it. You just turn on your Netflix. It's there. And they don't tell you numbers ever, like with the Brady roast. They don't tell you numbers, but they say, hey, this was the most watched thing ever. You know they're going to do this with this box of matches. No, they give you numbers, but they give you like 75 billion streamed minutes. And it's like, hold on a second. Divided by how many? Well, that was like six hours long, six hours times 60. What is that, like 30?

3,600 minutes, something like that. That's how we get to a billion real quick, right? That Tom Brady roast, way too long. Can we agree on that? Way too long. Way, way too long. Yes. You're starting to understand why, I guess, the Comedy Central ones were done days before and then edited down to an hour because-

man, like three and a half hours or whatever that Brady roast was, was never, I sat down like three different times to try to finish it. I never finished it. And Andrew Schultz who went like last, he was funny, but I feel like people were just tired at that point. Like, I feel like his set would have gotten more laughs if it was like an hour or two, but it was like one of the last ones. So people were just like, I'm

done. He got a bad draw. Yeah. And I get it. They were probably going with him as like one of the closers, but it's just it was too long. You want to go like third. Same thing with like this fight. Like where there's there's an undercard. Where do you want to fight on this card? They can't have too many fights because here's the thing about this, right? Is that at the end of the day, it's still boxing, right? So like if you don't care about boxing, but you like the spectacle, are you going to sit through two hours of boxing matches that you don't care about to get to this fight at the end? Yeah.

Oh, I'm not watching an undercard. No, hell no. I just want to see Tyson for two minutes. Exactly. That's me too. And I think there's an interesting dynamic to this fight, though, because for a lot of his career, Mike Tyson sort of played the villain. He was the guy that a lot of fans were rooting against. I think it's the opposite now. And largely because of the age difference, I think 80% of America is rooting for Tyson to win, whether or not they have a bet on the fight.

I agree. I mean, I think most people. No, but I think we're making a mistake with just how popular Jake Paul has become with younger people. No, yeah. Yeah, but I just feel like even some of those younger people, like, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm just doing my age. No, but he's very punchable. No, but he is very punchable. My daughter wants to watch the fight. She has no idea who Mike Tyson is. Wow.

She's watching for Jake Paul. That's impossible. She has Billy. She's never seen The Hangover. She for sure knows Mike Tyson through pop culture. Maybe not as like a fighter. I asked her, do you know who Mike Tyson is? She said, no, I have no idea. Now, maybe that would jog. So I have no idea. But she's watching it for Jake Paul. That's all I'm saying. Me and Greg, as older people, are probably not giving Jake Paul enough credit and thinking Tyson is the draw here. Tyson is the draw for us.

Not for everyone else, I don't think. That's a good point. The idea that your grown daughter would never have heard of Mike Tyson is surprising, but I guess it shouldn't shock me. He is 58, right?

At what age are you grown? I mean, I think when you're a way to 20. Yeah. Yeah. She's grown. And then she's always your little girl. Yeah. Always. Both of them. Emma and Rachel. What's the most wrong you've ever been about something in your career? Because I have a nominee for myself. Okay. People always bring up my trade Dan Marino columns. Oh, that's it. Yes. Yeah. I'll let that speak for itself. As you should. For me, it's Dan Campbell. I'm a,

I mocked the Lions relentlessly, and it's funny. The Dolphins had him. Like, he could be the Dolphins head coach. At one point, he was the tight ends coach. He was the interim coach in 2015. But when the Lions made him their head coach, I laughed at the Lions. I'm like, there's no way that meathead is going to be able to galvanize a team and lead that team into the playoffs and take an organization like the Lions, which

who I would say over the last 40 years, much like the Jets, have been the worst organization, not just in the NFL, anywhere in sports. That's how bad the Lions were before Dan Campbell took over. And I said, Dan Campbell is not going to fix this mess. Dan Campbell has fixed this mess. So much so, I wish he was my head coach. I do. So I was, Dan Campbell, I apologize. I was wrong about you. You're not a bad head coach.

You're not a good head coach. You're a great head coach. The Dolphins have had some funny coaches in that, like, you remember Tony Sperano? And it wasn't even something that he did here, but Tony Sperano did one of the funniest things that I remember a coach doing. So he became, he went to Oakland after he was here, maybe a stop or two later, and he took over as the interim head coach of the Raiders when they fired someone. And he decided to kind of set the tone after he took over to bury a football. Yeah. Yeah.

That's coaching. Very Dan Campbell move, honestly. It really is. They had both of them in this building. I don't know why we couldn't have had these moments here. Yeah. Well, I remember Dave wants that when he was here. Ah, the lobster trap. The lobster trap. The week of a trap game, there would be all these New England lobster traps all over the locker room. It was like...

Really? Yeah. Grown-ass men playing or, like, getting inspired by a lot of stuff? A big part of coaching is props, I think. I think a big part of coaching is props. I agree with you. But I also think it's that guy played the game.

And, like, I don't know what I was doing with Dan Campbell when the Lions decided to make him the head coach. He just, he's unlike physically, he is unlike any coach we've ever seen in the NFL. But he does a great job of making those players feel like he's in the game with those players. I was telling you off air, and I mean this entirely, he looks like a guy, you could put him in a uniform and

Put him in the game for a couple of series at linebacker. Get you a sack. And he wouldn't embarrass you. He would look like a player out there. I don't know how old he is. He's probably in his mid-40s. 48. Yeah. He looks like, speaking of Mike Tyson, he looks like for a short period he could still fake being a player. Let's relive Dan Campbell's introductory press conference. This team's going to be built on we're going to kick you in the teeth, all right, and when you punch us back, we're going to smile at you, and when you knock us down,

we're going to get up and on the way up, we're going to buy it a kneecap off. All right. And we're going to stand up and then it's going to take two more shots to knock us down. All right. And on the way up, we're going to take your other kneecap and we're going to get up and then it's going to take three shots to get us down. And when we do, we're going to take another hunk out of you before, before long, where are they going to be the last one standing? All right. That's going to be the mentality. All right. And, and,

We're going to learn that any loss that we take, we're going to make sure we feel the full pain of it and not go numb to it. Thank you for playing that because it was after that where I thought there's no way this guy is going to have any sort of success. And the bite you in the kneecap thing, that comes back to haunt you if you prove not to be a good coach.

It's like, yeah, how's that biting the kneecap of the opponent working when you're 3-7? Yep, but now he looks like a genius. He does. I mean, a macho man, a macho coach. Can I tell you something? I was really happy for him when they came back and they beat the Texans this week, and this is why. And I felt like I saw an evolution of Dan Campbell in that they came back and their last two drives ended with field goals.

And I was like, wow. And he looked happy. He's learning. Look, we kicked these field goals. We ended up winning this game. The whole story was about Jake Bates, the old bricklayer that now is a kicker in the NFL. But I saw Dan Cameron. I'm like, you know what?

I feel really good for this guy. Like all the criticism that he would go for being too aggressive, whatever. He settled for two field goals, ends up having a giant comeback win because it was looking early on like the Texans were going to blow them out and somewhat expose them. But no, they came right back at it, did the regular football thing, kicked some field goals, took the points. You escape with a win, 8-1. He's so right, Billy. I was thinking that Campbell was just going to be like, no, we're scoring on this final drive. He played the clock.

He just took the field goal. I thought he would be like, no, no, we don't do that around here. We try to score touchdowns. Wrong coach. That's Nick Sirianni. The bricklayer. The bricklayer also. Two really close kicks to missing. Great story. Almost horrible.

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