Hour 2: Bet The Senate (Feat. Rosie Perez)
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You're listening to DraftKings Network. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Our old friend Rosie Perez is going to join us here in a little while. I erred in not asking Samson. I did want to talk to him about everybody who is...

alleging that the Jake Paul Tyson fight was fixed enough that Jake Paul now has to come out and make public commentary about it because people who are watching some of the fighting experts who are watching are noticing that Mike Tyson is there are easy opportunities for Mike Tyson that would have been taken even four years ago against Roy Jones Jr. He looked like a different human being in the legs. But I don't know how sick he was recently either because he could.

Mike Tyson clearly had some openings on some amateur openings on things that the novice fight expert, if such a thing can exist, right? Because people examining this on the internet are saying there were some right hands and the fact that there were no uppercuts from Mike, that Jake Paul left the openings and some people are alleging fixing there.

I mean, fixing is a bridge too far, to be honest, Dan. But it is weird to see a killer like Mike Tyson and have him not do the things that he's built to do, scientifically, humanly built to do. No, but you can be old. He's...

He's had those same shots on a punching bag and takes them. And one minute bursts. We see those videos and one minute bursts. Okay, but they were open, right? It's not like he's too old to throw a punch. Then what are we doing? There was one moment that I noticed when it was happening and it was pretty early in the fight. I would put it in the group chat. Why didn't Mike take that shot?

And since then, the internet's isolated that clip and been like, whoa, what is this? Because you could see the opening. Mike Tyson kind of cocked back and then just pull it back. And Jake Paul wasn't moving very fast at this moment. It was a clean shot. But Mike Tyson went through a lot. And I guess the explanation is you don't have to allege rigging. It could just be like...

Man, Mike Tyson was clearly not right. He was biting his glove the entire time. He announced that he lost a lot of blood. We still don't really know exactly how that came about. And that's what initially postponed the fight. So, look, it was what it was. Oh, it is what it is becomes it was what it was.

I mean, it went pretty much exactly how we thought. Right. And like Dan would come on to the show and entertain like, well, you know, one punch from that guy. Ultimately, it's a 60 year old man against a dude that is in the prime of his life.

that is in really good shape and it's a combat sport. Yeah, but when Jake leaves an opening, you are left to wonder why Mike wouldn't take that. I mean, a lot about it was odd with Mike and then you find out he was really sick before the fight and Roy Jones is saying the entire fight, he doesn't, I don't

like his legs here set it from the very beginning don't like his legs at all roy who fought him four years ago and that's not how mike was moving we don't need to spend any more time here rosie perez will join us in a bit that was that there's been a lot of yes that was that uh there's been a lot of internet sleuthing on this subject and uh when 100 million people watch something and feel ripped off there are going to be a lot of theories after they didn't pay a pay-per-view price for you paid 15.99 or whatever for your netflix oh but no but that night i think i

think when Mike says it was what it was and it meant what the expectations were, which were low. No, it did not. 100 million people tuned in hoping to see something better than that. They left disappointed. Boxing does that a lot. Serrano-Taylor was incredible. One of the fights of the year just before that fight.

fight. No one cares, Tony. Nobody cares. That's not true. Dan, I'm sorry. A handful of boxing fans care, but people tuned in to see Mike Tyson. That's what they wanted to see. Sure, they got a fight of the year right before that fight.

You saw him. You saw what it would look like if a 60-year-old Mike Tyson got in the ring against Jake Paul. We all knew that that was a possibility. Even the people that were most bullish on Mike's chances knew that there is a real possibility that this could be... If it gets past round one or round two, you're going to deal with 60-year-old... Even with two-minute rounds, I don't think people understand what it takes out of the human body just to get in the ring and where your legs are when you're that afraid of, I've got to fight this other person for money and they can concuss me. Like...

It's a weird way to make a living. It's scary, and there's some drainage involved to your legs before you ever get in the ring. By round three, man, I've told one of my favorite stories in sports, history of sports, is George Foreman in Africa, in Zaire, where they're chanting for Ali the underdog. And for seven rounds, Foreman is just giving him everything, all the Tyson stuff, everything. And Ali just keeps whispering it to him. Is that all you got, George?

Is that all you got? It's all rope-a-dope. Is that all you got? And in the eighth round, when Foreman got knocked out in one of the best fights ever, he's like, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, that's all I got. That's when boxing was boxing, Dan. I got seven rounds of it. That's when we were kings. That's when we were kings. Yep. That's one of my favorites. It is. I know it's a dorky story, but I love it so much. You're the heavy... George Foreman!

Norman was Tyson. He had a pet tiger. He was walking around in the street with a pet tiger. Dan, that's on your YouTube algorithm, just like the Norm MacDonald thing. 60-year-old fights. I can't help it. That's also part of it. Well, but Tyson tapped into that for me and a lot of people my age. Like there was a whole lot of hope trafficking we were doing with the convicted rapists there.

Just be good one last time, old man. 30 years removed from your prime. Knock out the kid and show him on behalf of us. Show the whippersnappers on behalf of us, old guy. What boxing used to be. That's right.

I have this new thing that was supposed to be weekly that hasn't been weekly. Is it still undefeated, Billy? It is an agent of chaos. Is it Bet the House or Bet the Senate? It's called Bet the House. Everybody knows it's called Bet the House. I don't know what it is. Is it still unbeaten? It was 3-0 for a while there. Well, who knows?

I believe we're 4-1 now because we had one last week that didn't air, but we had the right pick, so we're crediting that one. That one hit. So that one was a win. Now, we did have a loss. What's that, Thomas? Why didn't it air? Hold on. Thomas is talking. We're undefeated in the FBS. I don't know why he walked in the middle of me talking, but yeah. Thomas has been working very hard on this shitty bit. Yeah, but he got a little comfortable because he brought him on the microphone before, and now he's just interrupting segments. It's kind of weird. It's odd, really. Anywho, so we lost... It's emotional.

We lost a couple weeks back. No, hold on a second. Not there yet. Lost a couple weeks ago. Last week was a big W. Didn't air, but we still won that one. It still happened. Why didn't it air? I don't know. I wasn't here. So anyways. That's why. We'll take your word on it. We needed to set up. Well, Thomas was primed to set it up. I don't know what happened. We don't need to point fingers here. It's Thanksgiving week. Tony's got to get out of here. So the point is this. This week we got a big guest. Very big guest this week.

Not a House of Representatives, a senator. We have a senator for over 30 years who all... Not yet. Who for the 30 years of his service as a senator has been putting smiles on people's faces the entire time. Oh, he has? Really? It's time to pay.

The Senator of Repri is Senator. It's time to bet the Senator of Repri. The Senator of Repri is Senator.

Senators! The Senator of our Senators. Senator, Senator, Senator, Senator. Red. Green. Senator. This week's guest, God bless courtesy of our neighbors to the north. It's Ottawa Senators Team Dentist, Dr. William Wildhill Henry.

We got a matchup that seemed like it was going to be a big one, but now most people don't really care about it and probably won't really impact the standings whatsoever because everybody knows Notre Dame's getting in anyways. It's the Notre Dame Fighting Irish versus the USC Trojans. Dr. Henry, who you got? That'd be Notre Dame. Wow.

It's not good. I don't think they're in if they lose that one. Nah, they're still going to get in. Don't fool yourself. It was built for them to get in. They don't have a conference championship game. It doesn't matter. Illinois is a six-win team. No. Big brand. Team dentist. Yeah. Oh, by the way, also breaking news on the latest episode of Ice Ice Baby coming out soon. We're going to have the full interview with Dr. Bill Henry. So we went... Ice Ice Baby.

We went about 40 minutes or so with Dr. Bill Henry before we got that pick, and we figured, you know what? We're not going to not use the 40 minutes where we talked to Ottawa Senators team dentist Dr. Bill Henry. So that's going to be on the latest episode of Ice Ice Baby. A hockey show doesn't want that? Can I get O Canada for that bed there? What? No. No, it's bedtime. No, the bed isn't the thing. Come on.

Bet the House of Representatives, sometimes senators. Which is very clearly the name. What is Ice Ice Baby? You have Ice Ice Baby? Ice Ice Baby is the hockey show that we've been doing for a while now, off the record. It's the Iceman, Mr. Hockey, the Iceman.

Matty Ice and Baby Billy. Ice Ice Baby. What are you doing, man? Yeah. It's a hockey show. Everybody knows. We offered Roy to be a guest multiple times. Roy has refused the guest. Mr. Hockey's personal assistants reach out to Roy on quite the number of occasions. Roy keeps turning down the appearance on Ice Ice Baby. Who's Mr. Hockey? Mr. Hockey's Thomas. He goes by Mr. Hockey. Really? Yeah. Also the Ice Man. No, it is. There's been various episodes. Off the record show.

Major penalty, five minutes, ruining comedy. It's three people. Mr. Hockey, Matty Ice, and Baby Billy. Matt Ryan.

Matt Ryan? Mattie Otis. Everyone on a show that's been done with you for 20 years was trying to figure out how to play with you there, and all you did was the invisible necktie of Greg Cody from yesterday. What do you mean? Gave us shit. Get out. It's coming soon. It's coming out soon. Look who has to go now. In Billy's defense. Oh, he's tired. Tony is very tired and should leave. I couldn't help him. It was a bridge too far.

All of us were trying to understand what hockey language you were talking about. That segment is how you sound in my head for 20 years. That open. For 20 years, that whole segment is just you. Does Icise Baby have an open? Just yammering. If Icise Baby has an open, I'm in. The rare off-the-record show. What was the pick?

The run precedes the hockey. Notre Dame, I think. He didn't want to come into work today. You think Notre Dame gets in if they lose that game? Yes. Why? 100%. Why? Well, he just said the whole thing is built so that Notre Dame gets in. Of course. He just said you have to start. They lose to USC. You're doing this wrong. You're doing this wrong. You have to start from the premise of this is a made-for-TV event that Notre Dame must participate in and then go from there. Yes.

They're a lock, Mike. I think they're in trouble if they lose this one. No, they're not. Yeah, the strength of schedule is in the 70s. It doesn't matter. The thing was built so Notre Dame gets in. But provided that they do what they need to do, I think a two-loss Notre Dame, you'd favor a two-loss team that gets to a conference championship. Mike, you're making the argument based on merit. You need to stop that. Stop. What are you doing? It's a made-for-television event that Notre Dame plays in. What do you think about the Clemson thing, Matt?

That was interesting. There's a chance that three ACC teams make this because that would be wacky. What they're doing right now is essentially telling you, look, South Carolina has a pretty good argument, too, for the CFP. So that might be a low-key playoff game between those two. South Carolina's been good all year, correct? South Carolina, this is a slow start. They kind of got hosed on that LSU call. So you apply context to their season, that's...

If Clemson does win that, they're in the CFP, are they not? Are we not agreeing that all of this is a bit dumb? That so many losses are going to be involved that it's going to be impossible to pick 12 and we can take... We'll find a four-loss team. If I make it a four-loss Alabama team, Stugatz will still want them in the playoffs. Of course I will. I mean, over an Indiana team? Yes, I want Alabama. I guess if...

We really look into this. Yes, it's dumb. There's never been a way to decide a champion in this sport that hasn't felt kind of dumb. I think that this is the best of bad options. And this is certainly a year that you want as many teams in a single elimination tournament to help figure...

out who is the best team in the nation. I'd much rather have these dumb conversations about Clemson and Notre Dame because they're lower stakes. It's not like a team that's like when we had Baylor and TCU, four and five and six all into question, teams that could have legitimately won

made noise in the CFP out. So I think this is the best of all the scenarios so far. So are you saying, though, just so I'm clear, Notre Dame, if they lose this weekend or if they get a second loss here, that Mississippi, for example, is more deserving? I'm not saying Mississippi. Because they have three losses. I'm not saying Mississippi, but certainly like

Clemson, you look at whoever loses the ACC championship game, if their level on loss is and they make it to a conference championship game, why are you holding the conference championship game against them when Notre Dame doesn't play in one? Stugatz, the thing that Mike is doing here that is interesting, and I think a lot of people in college football are doing it because, God, football always wins, man. They've just turned it into college football March Madness now because everybody's kind of the same. And since you're going to allow 12 teams in,

We're going to ignore that the Notre Dame loss is apocalyptic. Like they lost at home to a team in Northern Illinois that it makes no sense to lose at home to that team when in all your other games you're scoring 50 points. And Northern Illinois lost to Ball State, who Mike reminds you, when they played the—now Ball State's won a couple of games because it's weird, but when they played Miami, Ball State looked incompetent.

So when you start doing all the comparison shopping and you're like, yeah, Notre Dame hasn't played anybody, but Notre Dame has whacked everybody they have played. They look good, no doubt. If you're picking teams on what they look like right now, yeah, absolutely. But if they lose to a USC team that hasn't had a good year, that is in all sorts of chaos, that benched their quarterback...

I, you, yeah, they have the Texas A&M win. There is no worse loss. They got bad off of like military academies that were ranked when they played them. Still a good win though, Mike. If we're going to criticize their bad loss, give them a good win. You can poke holes in the argument, especially if they lose. Now, if they win, certainly put them in. I, I,

they look as good as anybody right now, but if they lose that game, you hold up their resume compared to others. It's not that good. What Mike is doing there by others is his university of Miami hurricanes. Miami's resume is irrefutably better. Right. And like, you want to say like that win against Connor Wegman when he's barfing on the field in Elko's first game at Texas A&M, not taking anything away from that. I guess I did by adding the fact that like,

who's no longer the starter was puking there. But we do this by arbitrary measurements, right? So top 20 Miami, you don't have a ranked win. You don't have a ranked win, Miami. Okay, I guess. All right, but if you look at others receiving votes, it's littered with teams that Miami has beaten.

So if I say make a top 33, Miami's got four of those wins. Should Miami lose these games? So they're ranked wins. I don't like it's all stupid. You have to you have to kind of judge teams by how they've looked against competition. That's tough.

And if you want to say that the ACC is overrated and, yeah, not a good look, that Rhett Lashley rolls in there with SMU and goes to a conference championship game, that doesn't take away from the fact that this is a conference that head-to-head against the Big Ten is better. Has a shot to be over .500 against a vaunted SEC. Vaunted!

They're better than the Big 12 in head-to-head. But I think what you're doing here with Notre Dame is you're protecting against, if Notre Dame loses to USC, if the Canes lose to Syracuse, you think the Canes should get in, and I'm telling you Notre Dame is in. I don't think the Canes should get in if they lose to Syracuse. Really? If they lose to Syracuse, they should be out. I think there's a discussion to be had if the Canes beat Syracuse, make it to the ACC championship game, and lose to SMU. The same case that I would make, in fact, I'd say it's a more dramatic case for SMU if their two losses are to BYU instead

They should not be punished by losing their conference championship game. That's an extra game that makes everybody kind of money, right? Big money for everybody. You should not hold it against them. Do you think, Dan, that if the Canes lose to Syracuse this weekend, that Mike will be singing the same tune? I was surprised.

to hear him say that, but I will simply say to Mike the same thing about Miami that I just said about Notre Dame. I think you need to rethink that you're ignoring that this is a made-for-TV event. And if there are margins that Miami and Notre Dame can climb through to get on the marquee among 12 teams, SMU's going to lose there. Like, something that looks and sounds and feels like SMU is going to lose to what's the better television product. Like, that's going to be the tiebreaker, and they're never going to have to say it. They're going to be able to hide it and drown it in numbers and strength of schedule and

and FPI, and at the end it's going to be we want to see Miami and Notre Dame because, hey, ESPN wants the big games. Like, what are we doing? We need to get the big games. Who was that big money guy? What was the sound that he made? What was that guy? What was that character? Big money guy. You said the big money. There's a big money television game. Yeah, I don't understand. Well, the conference championship games are big money conference championship games, and the fact that Notre Dame doesn't play in one, it's convenient.

and they don't have to play that extra game against a really challenging opponent. And by the way, in other conferences, that can hurt you. They say it's not supposed to hurt you. And I think by putting Clemson at number 12 right now, essentially telling you they're in a win-and-win scenario against South Carolina,

How do you put Clemson into the CFP and not the loser of the ACC championship game? Now, that loser may very well be Clemson because Miami has to do what they need to do against Syracuse. But if there's a scenario in which

Clemson's in the top 12. Miami and SMU play in the ACC championship game. You can't kick one of those two teams out and favor Clemson. Clemson didn't have the benefit of playing that extra game. Rosie Perez next. Don Levitard. If Daniel Day-Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself. Oh, come on. Yeah, I would be. Aggressive description. I mean, what is that? I'm just saying. That's me. You're just saying what?

That's me. Daniel Day-Lewis does something. I see that photo of Daniel Day-Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. And you know what I do? I mean, Stugatz. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do. Lincoln, who you outed the other day? Don't make this a rejoin. This is the Don Levitas show with the Stugatz. She makes us happy every time we see her, every time we hear from her.

It's been a while. She made that fiasco tolerable on Netflix as we were watching that poor old guy get beaten up by Jake Paul. You always want to start off awkward? That's his thing. Welcome and thank you for coming back.

Rosie Perez is serially honest. I'm not telling, and she loves her boxing, and she knows far more about boxing than I know. Still weird. It seems like you know her very well. She is one of our all-time favorite guests on the show. She's an Oscar-nominated actress. She's got a new show with Billy Crystal and Judith Light. It is called Before on Apple TV, and we love her because she is one of boxing's most passionate fans, and she's known as the first lady of boxing. Is that a better introduction? There you go.

Quite honestly, yes. Much better. Yes, but she knows that we love her and we enjoyed watching that spectacle with everybody else because the Netflix numbers came in, Rosie, and it was over 100 million people that we're talking about on the downloads. I don't know what you thought that was going to be, but did it live up to your expectations? And we've missed you. Thank you for joining us.

Okay, that was a lot. But hi! Hello! Yes, it was a lot. Also, people don't download anything off Netflix. Okay, I'm sorry. That's right. I got that wrong. Watched on Netflix. It was not downloaded. I think it gets... Well, never mind. No downloads. Nope, it doesn't. It's on DVDs. You're like a dog with a bone on it. Rosie, how did you feel about the entire experience? And thanks again for joining us. Well, since it was my first time doing it, I would say...

It was unexpected, stressful, wonderful, exciting, mind blowing. And also like, oh, my God, what the hell did I just see?

What surprised you about the entire extravaganza? Because I don't know how much preparation involves. I don't know how much work you did with Roy Jones Jr. and your team beforehand. Why was it stressful? It was stressful because initially I was supposed to be the host with Kate Abdu-Scott. And then they changed it and said, we think you would be better as color commentary. I went, oh, no, no, no.

And they said, well, why don't we just test it out? So we did a test run. We watched a fight with the sound off and we had to commentate Morrow, Roy Jr. and myself. And I ended up having so much fun with it. They just kind of talked me into it.

And then when the reality hit, when we got to Arlington, I was like, oh, my gosh, this is serious. And because I have such respect for commentaries, you know, I mean, everyone down from Jim Lampley all the way down to Paulie Malinagy and Tim Bradley and Andre Ward himself. I think the magnitude of the whole event started to really hit me once I walked into the stadium.

So were there nerves unlike other nerves that you've had where you've been a performer for a long time? That's a good question. It was very similar to like when you go out on a Broadway stage because this is real, there's no cut and you better come with the goods, you know? So that was in my favor because I understand how to deal with stress in those situations. Um,

You kind of just do it, you know what I mean? And you don't let it get the best of you. When I first went in the stand up, that's when you stand in front of the camera with the mics handheld standing up for the first fight. I was obviously nervous. So it was really good that I did the prelim. I did a

Shushu Carrington's fight because I love him and I think he's great. And it was Andre Ward who had suggested to me to do that run first so that when the main card came around, I was kind of more settled in. And I was. Rosie, you love boxing. We've had you on so many times over the years. You really love boxing. And I'm wondering, does it make you sad that Jake Paul is now the face of boxing?

It's complicated, my feelings in regards to Jake Paul, because I am so grateful for him for getting

you know, Amanda Serrano paid. I mean, really, I mean, that woman has been getting punched in the face, what, over 16 years and didn't get a big payday until he came around. That's really sad. And as well as Katie Taylor, she benefited all for his promotion of Amanda Serrano. So I highly respect him for that. But in regards to him as a boxer, I mean, he has gotten better. He's taken it seriously. But

Yeah, you know. Your confidence, though, in the subject matter. It's interesting to hear you talk about nerves because the subject matter, you've got it down, right? It is the performing aspect of just there are a lot of people listening to this. And what? Where do the nerves come from there? Because I don't imagine that you can have much more confidence than you do in nerves.

talking boxing well once I was seated at the on ringside I was having fun but it was the all the production aspect of it because the production was a little faulty we couldn't hear the truck in in in the earlobe um

So we were rushing to do the stand-up and then rushing back to sit down, and I didn't hear certain cues. And Roy and Mara were very supportive in that respect, as well as the floor manager. She was great. But it was a lot. So that part was like, oh my goodness, what's going on?

But Roy Jr. actually has said to me prior said, when I first walked in the stadium, he looked at my face and he said, you all right? And I was like, nah. And he goes, yo, you need to calm down. And I started cracking up. And he said, this is fun. They asked you for a reason.

they didn't ask anybody else they asked you and he says so i got you and andre ward came over and said listen if you ever feel nervous just say hey roy what do you think because he's the best at it and that's what i would do i don't know if you noticed that i would always say hey roy what do you think about that you know

And he really helped me out. When would you say was the last time you were this scared? Scared is probably overstated, but before performing, Rosie, what compares? Like you mentioned Broadway, but what is the last time that felt like this? You're a very accomplished actress.

say my broadway debut because i had to be butt naked on stage yeah that was that was yeah that'll do it yeah understood you know what's so funny about that performance the director was so angry at me he was so pissed off because i'm supposed to walk around the stage naked and i'm thinking my family's here opening night i can't do it i just can't do it i'm puerto rican you know so i

the scene is Joey Pants and I are in bed. We're doing the deed. And then after the deed, I'm supposed to get up naked and clean the room. Like, what woman in the real world does that? You know, not with a one-night stand. You know what I'm saying? And so what I did was I picked up the pillow and I was holding it on my side so you could cover my tits and my you-know-what. Woo-hoo! And, yeah. The director was so angry after the show. How...

How dare you? How dare you? I said, listen, my family was in the audience. I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't do it. I need an elaboration on what you being Puerto Rican has to do with us, it being a little extra hard to be naked in front of your family. Because it's like, you know, it's a very Catholic, you know, religious, you know,

Kind of upbringing and, you know, I didn't even drink a glass of wine in front of my father until I was 27 years old.

That explains it. Can you tell us, Rosie, how it is that you got this job? What's the backstory? Like, I know that for years, everyone has associated you with boxing commentary. I know that you did it with our show for a long time. Do you remember, like, any interesting parts of the story of how all of this came to be? They just asked me and I was shocked. And I was like, me? Are you sure? I mean, that's as simply simple as it was. You know, prior to this, I had

co-hosted a fight for ESPN on top rank. And that was a lot of fun. And then Teddy Atlas asked me to sit next to him ringside and he ended up screaming at me most of the fight.

But yeah. And then one time Steve Farhood asked me to sit next to him ringside for Broadway boxing, Luda Bella card. But that was it. So I was really surprised, but I was happy, you know, and I initially thought that Mike Tyson was the one that told them to ask me. And I called Kiki, his wife, and she said, no, we didn't know anything about it. That's fantastic. Yeah.

You interviewed Mike, and were you expecting—you never know where one of those is going to go—were you expecting to be talking about God and the DMT, the toad, the smoking of toad experience? Yes.

Absolutely not. They had given me like a list, maybe 50 questions to ask him. I think I probably asked two on that list. I just started talking as soon as he said, hey, buddy, I went, OK, here we go. It was just me and Mike. And we just started talking. And thank goodness they cut a lot of stuff out because he was saying some things.

out there, you know what I was like, Yo, what are you talking about? So we just had fun and it just kind of flowed and knowing him since the, you know, mid 80s. There was actually stuff that I learned from that interview, actually, what got cut out? I can't tell you I wish I could because it's so good and juicy.

I was like, oh, my goodness. It was it was crazy. It was crazy. So, Rosie, this is a habit of yours. Are we still trying to find out who was her date to some award show 15 years ago? We never got a correct answer to that. Right. Or it was actually longer than that ago. We never got a correct answer, didn't we? She likes to leave us hanging. These big mysteries you leave out there like you gave us all the good stuff there and then you denied us the good stuff.

Dan, I blame you because ever since I, it was the first time I said that story and it was on your show and everyone asked me about that now to this day.

To this day. So every time someone asks me about it in my head, I'm saying that effing freaking Dan. That's how I started the interview to that effing frigging Dan Levitard. Tell us about this show. I have not seen it yet, but it is on my list. I see you and Billy Crystal. I want to watch it. Apple TV plus the name of the show is before. Tell us how it is you got involved in this project and what it is that is exciting about it to you.

Well, I always wanted to work with Billy Crystal, and then I got a call saying that he was going to offer me a role in his new TV show. When I read the role, I was like, oh, it's too similar to what I did in...

in "Yarana" with Bryan Cranston. So I got on Zoom with him and the producers and everyone, and I said, "I'm gonna turn down this role, and I think it's the stupidest thing that I'm ever going to do." I said, "But the role of Denise, whoever you get to play it, please make sure they do it like this." And we talked for like about an hour and a half.

And three days later, they called back and said, you have to play Denise. And I was scared out of my wits about it. And I said, OK, because I just wanted to work with Billy. And plus, the script was amazing. And also Judith Light. My gosh. You know, and so that's how it came about.

Your Honor is so good, Rosie. It is really good. But I saw the delight in Chris Cody's face there because he loves how you say Beely. He brings me back to White Man Can't Jump. Beely had some accent on it and so did Crystal. The way that you say Beely Crystal entirely had a lot of accent on it. So you make the ends awkward too. See you later, Rosie. Good talking to you. Thank you. It's always nice seeing you.

We're sorry, Rosie.