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2024/11/25
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Key Insights

Why did the Giants decide to move on from Daniel Jones?

The Giants always knew Daniel Jones wasn't the quarterback of the future, but they were forced to sign him to a longer-term deal after he played well in a playoff game. They wasted time on the Daniel Jones era and ultimately decided to cut bait.

How did Daniel Jones handle his departure from the Giants?

Daniel Jones handled his departure with grace, reading a heartfelt letter at a press conference and expressing gratitude to the organization and fans. He accepted responsibility for his part in the team's failures and looked forward to future opportunities.

What was the reaction to Elle Duncan's mockery of Daniel Jones' farewell statement?

Rich Gannon and Bruce Murray of Sirius XM were upset by Elle Duncan's mockery, criticizing her for being negative and nasty towards someone who just lost their job. They felt she should be reprimanded for her comments.

How did Saquon Barkley react to the Giants' loss against the Buccaneers?

Saquon Barkley expressed frustration, questioning why he wasn't getting the ball in the first half and suggesting he could do nothing when the game was already 30-0. He was visibly angry, chewing gum aggressively during the interview.

What challenges do the Miami Dolphins face in the playoffs, especially in cold weather conditions?

The Dolphins' offense, which relies on precision and timing, may struggle in cold and windy conditions. Their game plan, built around quick releases and shorter passes, could be compromised in adverse weather, making it difficult for them to win on the road in the playoffs.

What is considered a successful season for the Miami Dolphins according to Billy Gill?

Billy Gill considers making the playoffs a successful season for the Dolphins, given their turnaround from a 3-6 start. He believes winning a playoff game would be a significant step forward, even if they don't win the Super Bowl.

How did the Harvard-Yale game compare to other college football environments in terms of atmosphere?

The Harvard-Yale game was described as a more staid and tepid environment compared to the typical SEC school tailgating scene. Students were reluctant to go on camera, reflecting a more reserved atmosphere.

Chapters

The chapter discusses the end of Daniel Jones' tenure with the New York Giants, his farewell press conference, and the reactions from Elle Duncan and Rich Gannon.
  • Daniel Jones' farewell press conference was mocked by Elle Duncan.
  • Rich Gannon and Bruce Murray defended Jones, criticizing Duncan.
  • Jones' tenure with the Giants was marked by inconsistency and high expectations.

Shownotes Transcript

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I didn't think your timing was great there. It made me uncomfortable. For the last week or so, I've gone like, good timing. I was like, how can I change this up? I'm trying to keep it fresh. Me and Mike are having ad sex. I'm trying to keep it fresh. No, but it sounded like someone had prodded you with a shh.

you know, a hot poker in the nether regions. Like, it was weird the way that you said that you weren't enthused about game time. Look, if I would have just done game time, you guys would have just like... No, that would have been good. I thought that's what we were doing. He was plenty enthused about the sponsor. How can you not be? Because it's the best out there. Also, he might just be a little rattled because I told him about the coffee table. Oh, boy. Holy cow. Wow.

Video, please find my father in the other room. I saw him rummaging around there somewhere. Did he leave? We missed. He escaped. He left out a side door. Okay, thanks. I'm glad everybody here does what I tell them to do. He's in the bathroom, I'm being told. Ah, he's in the bathroom. The last time I saw him out there, his hand was in that plate of bacon. I saw him rummaging around, and I wanted to catch him in his natural environment. He loves coming around and just eating Fig Newtons. Ha ha ha.

So we will try and locate my father and see if we bring you that video shortly. We will also have some off-roading for you. Where did Lucy go this weekend? The game, Harvard-Yale.

The game. Was it a more staid environment? Was it a more tepid tailgating environment than the average SEC school? She told us that the kids were reluctant to go on camera. They didn't want, you know, they're not looking for flicks. Because they're smart. Future leaders of America. Yeah.

So wait a minute. Bigger fish to fry, I guess. So wait, do we like what she, has anyone seen what she was making this weekend? Not just what we're going to play in moments, but what she was making this weekend? Did it seem a stuffier environment that she was walking into because it was Harvard-Yale? Yes? I mean, it has to, right? I haven't seen it yet, Dan. I wish I could answer it. I don't know if she was active on social media this weekend. I tried to check out a little bit on social media. It's blissful. It's lovely. It really is. Everyone should try it. Go for a walk?

A great untreated international addiction that we don't nearly talk about enough in the addiction category. I only got to see one picture. Lucy got to hang out with Handsome Dan, the Yale Bulldog. Wow. Nice. He is handsome. Let's get in a moment to that sound. But before we do that, Stugatz, I want to get your thoughts on something here. Did you see how everything ended in New York with the Giants on Friday? Yes.

and Daniel Jones and the Daniel Jones era for whatever it is. The four or five years that the Giants spent arguing about whether he was the quarterback franchise of the future before they cut bait. I think the Giants always knew. The problem was they went to Minnesota, won a playoff game. Daniel Jones played well in that playoff game, and they were kind of forced to sign him to a longer-term deal.

Well, if they always knew, you don't have to do that. And they didn't know. And so they wasted a lot of time on the Daniel Jones era. But Daniel Jones was really classy about the whole thing. And then when I'm leaving on Friday, Mike, because we obsess over our quarterbacks, as I'm saying goodbye for the weekend, Mike, is Daniel Jones waved.

And now he's available to a variety of teams that maybe he could resurrect it with. But he was very kind in the way that he read a letter and said goodbye and handled it all, I think, with grace. And so Daniel Jones had a career where he made a lot of money and had very little success and somehow leaves New York.

Kind of unscathed. And so Al Duncan was making fun of, I guess, the way that he read his goodbye to the fans at a press conference. And let's hear that sound.

Normally reserved taking the L for Fridays, but Giants quarterback Daniel Jones just did something so inexplicable that we made an exception. After being benched this week, Jones took to the podium to say goodbye to the franchise and fans, but with like seven games left in the season. All right, wrote something down just to make sure I say it the right way. I'm sorry. You have to write this down?

Didn't you go to Duke? The opportunity to play for the New York Giants was truly a dream come true. I'm extremely grateful to the Mara and Tish families for the chance to play here. The Giants are truly a first-class organization. I have nothing but genuine respect and appreciation for the people who have built it and who helped carry on that tradition. Thank you to all my teammates, coaches, and staff that have done so much for me these past six years. Of course, this season has been disappointing for all.

I'm excited for the next opportunity. I know that there's a lot of good football in front of me, and I'm excited about that. To all the fans, I have deep respect and appreciation for your passion and love for the Giants. The fans are a huge part of what makes playing for the Giants so special. Thank you. You guys think he had this saved in his notes since like 2020? In all seriousness, DJ, I could have saved you like 90 seconds. A rewrite.

Sorry you paid me $108 million for one playoff win. And I look forward to reviving my career as Brock Purdy's backup. Be in.

Not a bad landing spot. Goddamn. So that was the response of Rich Gannon as well on Sirius XM. And I'm curious what Stugatz thinks of everything that I'm putting in front of you here. Because Rich Gannon does a show with a gentleman I think named Bruce Murray on Sirius XM. Ah, Murr. And they were really precious about what Elle had done there.

to Daniel Jones there. They got upset by this. So watch Bruce Murray ask this question of Rich Gannon, former MVP of the league, and then I want to get your thoughts on this back and forth. You know, we all fall into the trap of going after the lowest hanging fruit. But I take issue with a female on ESPN

who goes by the name of Elle Duncan. And I went to her Twitter feed to see if since this controversy has erupted, if she provided any kind of apology, which she hasn't. You can check her out on Twitter at Elle Duncan ESPN. Why bother? When she went yesterday and after Daniel Jones produced a heartfelt news conference saying goodbye to the New York Giants, and as you said, Rich, was accountable for the failures that he was part of.

as he moves on to the next stage of his career. And she decided to mock that. Not just the performance, by the way, on Sunday, but the individual himself. To the point where he said, I wrote these words down because I wanted to make sure I shared them properly. You're emotional. And she said, oh, I thought you went to Duke. You had to write them down? And then she went on to say, I could have simplified it for you. I stole your money or something. I won one playoff game.

This is from an organization, by the way, who's firing people left and right. And I wonder how she would take kindly if we made fun of her colleagues that are getting fired right now. I wonder how she would take it if she got fired.

So that was the question that he sent Rich Gannon's way. I mean, who takes getting fired well? And here's Rich Gannon to protect as well, the precious Daniel Jones. And, you know, here's a quarterback, Bruce, that came to the Giants, was not an easy situation, went through coaching changes, coordinator changes, system changes.

And, you know, just hasn't gotten the results. And yet he stood at the podium yesterday. And what a class act. He just basically accepted responsibility for his part in it. Said he could do better. He could play better. And then you hear you have somebody. And by the way, I don't know who L. Duncan is, Bruce. I don't know that anyone even really watches SportsCenter anymore. And so I don't spend a lot of time at that channel. But

But here's a gal who's obviously never played the game, and she's going to say something really negative and nasty about somebody who just lost their job. I think that they're better than that. And hopefully she gets reprimanded by her bosses there to say this is not who we are. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

He also said as they went to break, Rich Gannon said, you know what, I'm going to call Daniel Jones. Give him a call. Look at me, Louie. Look, I'm all for it. Let's be more gentle with the athletes, sure. But Daniel Jones?

It's where we're going to start with it. Like, it was awfully soft. Like, he was terrible as their expectations quarterback. He won a playoff game, and they gave him a ton of money. And did you see what Saquon Barkley did last night? Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Now, if Barkley's still with the Giants, it wouldn't make a difference, but your larger point is... But I'm just surprised by the amount of holding him like a Fabergé egg when I didn't think we got that in that market. Since 2017, the teams that have lost the most in that sport are the Giants and the Jets. He was drafted very high. He was an unpopular pick.

He was thought to be a reach, and he wasn't a very good quarterback who ended up getting a good amount of money that at least in part is the reason that Saquon Barkley now plays for your division rival. It was a disaster. Like, I'm all for let's be more gentle. I'm just surprised that he reads a letter and that's what gets gentle. He won a playoff game that unfortunately set the Giants franchise back about a decade. Oh.

but he is being treated well on the way out. You know, Dan, he's doing this at the same time that Aaron Rodgers is playing quarterback and making a stink of everything in this city, and Daniel Jones just flying under the radar. He knows the fans aren't happy. He knows the organization's not happy, and yet he still found it within himself to step up to a podium and deliver it.

He wrote it down. That's fine. Went to Duke. I understand the shot there. But he wrote it down, and he gave a heartfelt apology about a team that has been very good to him. And so I think that kind of stands out. Bill, question the heartfelt. Well, I mean, when you write it down. Put it on the poll, Juju, at Levitard Show. Is it heartfelt when you're reading it?

And when I heard what Elle did, which, by the way, happened before Daniel Jones got cut, everything that we actually experienced there all happened before Daniel Jones was actually cut on Friday, which does provide some interesting detail here. What Elle did there is what Mr. Gatz does on our show routinely. Yeah. Routinely. I think also part of this is that it's Elle that is getting this reaction. And there was certainly some...

There was a little bit of extra seasoning on what the two gentlemen had to say about Elle there. And I don't think that someone like Sugatz ever encounters that kind of criticism. Exactly. Just plainly, he just said, there's a female on ESPN by the name of Elle. You could have just said Elle Duncan. They also said a gal who never played the game. This is the part we're talking about. But I take issue with a female on ESPN.

who goes by the name of Elle Duncan. It could just be by Elle Duncan on ESPN. Well, the question is, what if Randy Moss said it? What if someone else said it? What if Rex Ryan said it? What if a guy said it? Anne intentionally gave out her social media handle so his listeners can force feed hate her way. I just simply wanted to point out I wasn't even...

Why you guys got to put gender in everything? Sorry. They did. He started it. I'm just teasing you. That's my job. I usually do that. But I just heard the way that our show sounds because, yes, of course, you guys are obviously right. Don't make it gal. Don't make it female. That's correct. Everything that you're saying. I'm just still surprised, though, at the precious taking care of the Giants quarterback. Like, that's not...

What Eli Manning played under in terms of scrutiny. The franchise, New York football, is the worst in the sport. Let me explain to you what it is, if I may, that we're presently watching with the Detroit Lions because 20 years before Greg Cody was born, they were also 10-1. The Detroit Lions are ruling that sport

With the positive story, Stugatz, of dragging everybody. They're the worst franchise in the history of the sport. In our adult lives, there has been no worse franchise in football than the Detroit Lions. They've got the best team in football. And over the last eight years, the thing that has lost the most in the sport is the Giants and the Jets.

The Jets are an international laughingstock. Aaron Rodgers is probably going to be put on IR here, according to Diana Rossini, or benched in the next couple of games. Or released also came up as a thing, which is crazy. Is Ryan Tannehill never going to play again? Because everyone's just, oh, Ryan Tannehill's going to come in, he's going to take over a team at the end of the year, he's going to lead them into the playoffs. It's like, well, no, now people are going to be fighting over Daniel Jones and possibly Aaron Rodgers. Right, Tannehill just waiting for the right opportunity. He waited too long. Yeah, he did, actually.

Now Daniel Jones is out there. It's like, shit. With the Niners. Everybody wants in the Daniel Jones game because we've all seen that he's athletic and he can run a little bit. You want a playoff game. And he's got accuracy. I would ask you all, what do you make of Saquon Barkley last night? And what do you make of what Saquon Barkley looked like with the Giants? As neighbors, you heard him after the game. Let's

get that sound here because already Stugatz, I think we can all agree we've seen enough. We didn't need to see that much. We all know neighbors as a talent is somebody who's one of the best receivers in the league, correct? That's fair. I mean, we saw that immediately even playing with Daniel Jones, but with this guy got four Daniel Jones Stugatz. Like,

Daniel Jones is now out with the Giants. Well, you remember the video. Joe Shane wanted to take a quarterback, the Giants general manager. They ended up taking neighbors, though, because they're stuck with Daniel Jones. Well, they were stuck with Daniel Jones. Now they start over and will look for a quarterback. But here's neighbors after the game yesterday as they get dragged by the Bucs. Go out there for a second quarter. Don't get the ball. Start getting targets at the end. I mean, can't do nothing. Start getting the ball when it's 30-0. That's what I'm going to do.

Why in the first half are they not looking at you? I don't know. I thought the Daves would buy that. I thought the Daves. That's some good quality defense.

gum chewing there it is spectacular it was fresh he he literally took it out of the wrapper right before he let me let i want let me try and concentrate let's play that sound again and i just want everyone to concentrate on the amount of smacking and really the amount of giants tension of pressure of uh we are a bad football team that you can hear in the grinding of every smack of that gum

Go out there first, second quarter, don't get the ball, start getting targets at the end. I mean, you can't do nothing. Start getting the ball when it's 30-0. That's what I'm going to do. Why in the first half are they not looking at you? I don't know. Talk to Dave about that.

That's an angry chew. He's so right. It's such a good quote. I can't do nothing what you want me to do. At 30 to nothing. Yeah, as Baker Mayfield is mocking your Italian quarterback and the highlight of that game. By the way, this celebration, this made me laugh for a couple of different reasons. Not just because Baker gets to enjoy himself and it's just fun watching him win and it's more fun watching him with Mike Evans

back. He held them afloat while all their skill position guys went down. It's just fun watching him play. He loves football, man. Yes, it is fun watching him play. He got a stinger trying to grab the ball. And right before that celebration, what made me laugh is...

So he's weaving through the secondary, jumps up in the air, and barely gets it over the goal line, lands on his back, and the ball off his stomach springs 10 yards in the air. Like, as he barely gets over it. It might have been a fumble. It wasn't. They reviewed it, and he was a little bit over. But he was on his back. The ball springs up, and he immediately goes to mocking Tommy DeVito's celebration. Ha, ha, ha.

And doing the Italian. It's too hyped up, though, is it not? It's too... Yeah, you have to go over the top if you're mocking it, yes. You have to. You do? Just to make your point, yeah. What did that make the score of that game? Was it like 21-0?

I'm not sure. What a disaster the Giants are. That was great by Baker because people were wondering whether or not he got into the end zone. You have to get up very quickly and just start celebrating, just to throw the refs off the scent, you know? I think he's right about that. Even though I guess they kind of ruin all that with the replays these days.

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Don Levitard. But it's just his titties are sitting on the shelf that is his belly. Stugatz. He said titties and it shocked me a little bit. I wasn't quite prepared for titties. This is the Don Levitard Show with the Stugatz.

Did you guys see the one game? There were a couple of things that happened yesterday that I thought were interesting. One of them, Chicago, it looked like, was going to knock off Minnesota before everything happened at the end. They converted on a third and three to Keenan Allen. It looked like he made an amazing catch. But then they went to review and he had like a toenail out of bounds.

But in the interim, the Bears were trying to get to the line and not allow them the replay. And they got the replay and the whole game changed after that where Minnesota never trailed again. I know the game was tied late, but Chicago was on its way to doing something with the replay that I thought that was interesting because they also in another game used a border cam.

That they were saying Mike Pereira was explaining that not all stadiums have border cams. So therefore, a border cam that had caught a play that should have been reversed, they couldn't use that angle to do it. And I thought, man, that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

Like, you've got the technology to make it right, but because some stadiums don't have border cams, Pereira was explaining, then you don't get the border cam as part of the review. What's the dumbest part of that? That not all the stadiums have it or that they just wouldn't at least take... Not all the stadiums having it.

But if you have it, though, I mean, use it. I would say that the dumb part of it is you've got proof that something should be overturned and you can't use it as proof because not all stadiums have a border camp. When he said it, I'm like, that can't be true. That cannot be something that they're deciding now.

not to review because of a border cam situation. I immediately thought that that's something that couldn't be so. But if Pereira at this point has the credibility that you assume if he's saying it, it's just so, correct? He does have that credibility. He doesn't get these things wrong. So then how the hell does that happen?

How the hell do you have the proof on something in a border cam situation? I didn't think I'd be talking this much about border cams today. Interesting, yes. I didn't. Right. But I understand why you are. I mean... The point that I was initially making on the Keenan Allen place you got is Eberflus is going to get fired because his name is Eberflus. Yes. Should have been fired already. Right, but he's going to get fired. Never should have been hired. That team can't win, but they had that game. Like, the difference in that game was nothing. It was...

The play I'm talking about is an amazing athletic play that looked like a catch to everyone involved and one toenail was out. And as they tried to rush to the line to get the playoff so they couldn't do it, in a moment of

good coaching, Minnesota stopped the play. It's a game of inches, Dano. Well, it's not just a game of inches. Those third and fourth downs become so important that it's the difference between Chicago being 4-7 and 7-4. Like, they've lost three games like this. We'd be talking about Caleb Williams totally different, even though he's getting sacked eight times a game. The Bears are 5-18 in one-score games under Matt Eberfuss. Oof.

I mean, awful. He's been in that many, huh? Pretty crazy to think. I could say the Dolphins have been in an equal amount of close games. With them, you want to write off, but the Bears are close to being good. What does that mean? I can't figure you out. The Chiefs have only played close games for the last two years. That's our point with all this, that these teams aren't that far apart. I want you to believe in the Dolphins, Dan. That's really what's at the crux of this. He's not going to do it, man. I do love that that became about the Dolphins. But it's not that I don't believe in the Dolphins. Chris, I...

I will say to you, their offense is a special thing when they're healthy. That's not up for dispute. They're going to score about 30 a game if two is okay, but the whole thing's built on something fragile. And beyond that, they're going to have to go on the road and win three of these games. Not, I don't, I mean, maybe they win out and then,

and then get a home game, but you're going to have to win three road games. And so while I want to believe their offense can do something that would be a reason for hope and that they would be closer to what it is that they were last year than what it is that they've looked like this year, I just don't believe that they're as good as the best, and I don't know how many different times you want Buffalo to prove that to you.

to Billy's point on this being Tua's biggest game of his career, more so than just the playoff implications, I want to see Tua play well in the cold.

If he plays well in this game against the Packers, that will at least give us something to be like, okay, maybe he can do this down the road. You need proof. So it's just like, so there is value in this game of just show me you can play well in the cold. But can I ask this question and just, I don't know if it's a stupidity to ask you this question. The way that they play offense...

If it's cold and windy, right? Not just cold, but if the elements are actually something that affects play. By the way, it's going to be cold and rainy and windy in Green Bay on Thursday. Are you sure rainy? I thought it was supposed to be dry, but very cold. I see rain. They also have been playing offense differently as of late. Like they haven't been just throwing it over the top because that's been taken away from them. They've been doing a lot of shorter passes. They've been kind of getting what they've been given. So their offense is...

isn't exactly the same as it was last year, which may benefit them in the cold. To Billy's point, Tua has the lowest average depth of target in the NFL at 5.6 yards. He has the quickest average release time. He's one of four quarterbacks averaging a positive EPA on throws behind the line of scrimmage. And they've been able to attack the middle part of the field a lot better with, you know, medium level passes as opposed to just bombs.

Tua, since returning, hasn't thrown an interception on a pass over 15 yards. So they're using the shorter part of the field. They're using motion a lot more. And they're even able to establish passes that aren't just over the top. That should help in the cold. All of that was per the ringer. But to Dan's point, we're asking Adolph, and it's asking a lot, do you have confidence? Now, I'm fine with it. I just want them to get to the playoffs because you get to the playoffs, you have a chance.

But they're going to have to go on the road and win three games against like Pittsburgh, Baltimore, the Chiefs, Buffalo, something like that. All outdoors, all cold weather places. Let me do it another way, though, OK? Because you are right. They have been creative over the last three games, playing subpar teams over the last three games. And playing at home, of course.

But the question that I haven't fully gotten out to you, because yes, they are playing differently the last three games or four games using motion, shorter stuff. Last year, he got the ball, rid of the ball just as quickly, and they had a lot of, they had per yard more downfield throws last year than this year. But I simply assume, simply assume it, and you guys tell me if you think I'm wrong. That's like a Ferrari in the snow.

That shit's not going to work in the snow. That stuff, if it's windy out there and everything is on timing and everything else, I don't believe that whatever that thing is is going to out-physical what Philadelphia and Detroit are. I know they're in the other conference. But how they're going to play in the snow, or for that matter...

How Baltimore and Pittsburgh are also going to play in the snow because they're not as precision and timing oriented. And so therefore, in perfect conditions, yes, of course, healthy, that's fine. But now I make it something that's sloppy.

I assume it doesn't work in the snow. It's never mind that I need proof. I'm like, that shit's not working in wind. So I agree with you, which is why Chris is intrigued by this game coming up because he needs proof. He wants to see them do it. I agree with you. But you also understand that I'm saying Josh Allen works in snow. Yes, of course. And it works in the sun as well. It works when he's playing outside of the snow, too.

I am with you. I think the Dolphins offense, it's why last year we were saying, I remember me and Greg having that conversation about the Dolphins have to get the one seed of the two. They have to play some home games in the playoffs because their game doesn't travel. Miami collapsing in December. That is not choking.

That's environment happening to something that doesn't work in that environment. Well, I mean, they choked at home the past couple of seasons in December also. But like, I mean, if you're playing Detroit or if you're playing Philadelphia, it's best case scenario because you're in the Super Bowl and you're playing in a dome. So I just made it them instead of Baltimore and Pittsburgh. But you like a game dragged down into the muck against a Pittsburgh when the strongest thing you have. When I say Ferrari, look, forgive me.

I'm saying that I assume that we all understand this is a precision machine that would work the way that Aaron Rodgers worked when he won his one title. It's go through domes. Go through domes because you don't have those one-game samples where wind can throw off accuracy, and all of a sudden your greatest weapon doesn't get to be your greatest weapon anymore. Oh, do the Dolphins need the Chargers in the first round? Please. Please.

But I mean, I don't think anyone thinks they're going to go on a run and win the Super Bowl. Right. Like that's not what we're saying.

I think that you're just excited with the way the team is looking and think there's a chance to make it to the playoffs. And again, what is a successful season? Because if they win a playoff game, granted, it's not the Super Bowl that you were hoping. That's success. It is a step forward, and you don't want it to end there. Where are you on this? I want to pin you down, and I want to move this off. Me? Yes. I'm trying to pin you down. No, what do you mean? I've been pinned down already. No, you can't even tell us what a successful season is. Baby. Oh, no, I thought this.

thought this season was about getting to the Super Bowl. I thought that's what we were all doing. I thought we were all in. But then you lost your quarterback. But I thought we were all in on contracts and everything else that this year was a Super Bowl season. Who is pinning who in? Yeah, let's all pin each other. Right, what's happening here? Well, I want to pin Billy in on the idea of he has told us and he's enthusiastic now. He says they're in the mix. He's been saying for three weeks even, uh,

when they were three and six, he was saying that they're in the mix. Right. Is this you pinning him? What are we? I'm confused. I feel like I'm going to be misrepresented here. You pinning him in or down? Yeah. I'm going to pin him in and down. Wow. Both. Friend of Dorothy. You're in a bad mood today. I'm going to, no, it's just, I, I want him publicly on the record because this is what happens. He's like you this way.

He says things and then denies that he says them, and then we have to go look it up. So I want to get you on the record with where you are because you're making me, Guy, I remind you,

I'm not allowed back on the bandwagon. You kicked me and Jeremy off of this bandwagon because of how it is that we reacted to Tua's last injury. You told us we can't be a part of this, and everything you said was going to happen has since happened, where the Dolphins have won those games, and it's a back-in-the-mix conversation. So what is a successful season to Billy Gill?

What is Billy Gil saying the Dolphins are going to be as opposed to pinning me down and in? What do you think, in and down? I mean, if they're able to make it into the playoffs from where they were, I think that that's a good season. It's very disappointing from where you were at the beginning of the season, but to turn it around and make the playoffs, I think would be a good season. Then, once you get there, you want to see them take another step. Now, unfortunately, on their timeline...

You're kind of running out of time here with this core of people. So you need to do more than just win a game. If they get in, they could potentially be on a run. I think best case scenario with the way the AFC is right now,

is you get Kansas City. Like, you have Buffalo jump Kansas City, and you get Kansas City in the first round. Because we saw yesterday, I mean, the Panthers. You want Kansas City? The Panthers almost got Kansas City. That's the team you want. I love the word back here again. You're not going to get Denver in the first round. We're talking about three seeds. We're talking about teams that could realistically be the three seed playoffs. You're not going to get Denver in the first round. I thought you were doing all of the AFC. No, I'm talking about first round to get a playoff win.

You don't want Buffalo. You're going to do this again with Kansas City? I'm asking you. We're not saying we want Kansas City. We're saying of our options here, they seem beatable. Let me be clear. You guys are saying what you're saying. What I'm saying is I do want Kansas City. Oh, no. That's the team that I'm in. Dan, they barely beat Carolina. What? Suga's major penalty, five minutes forward. Talking about the Chiefs.

Your opinion is invalid. What? You keep questioning them and they keep winning the Super Bowl. You are no longer allowed to have Chief's opinion. Eventually I'll be right. Yeah, no, you're not going to be allowed to say it around here. You got to get out of here. By the way, your dad left. You guys, how can we not execute anything? We execute. We're like, Poppy, keep meandering. And then he just leaves. What do you want from us?

He got out of there like George Ward got out of that strip club. Would you rather Buffalo than Kansas City?

No chance. The only reason I think that I'd rather Buffalo instead of Kansas City is because you play them so often that you're not afraid of them. That's true. They beat us so bad. They do every time. But Kansas City beats everybody. Barely. Play off-roading from this weekend and the stuffy Harvard-Yale people. But the rumors are that Harvard is better than Yale just academically. What do you have to say about that?

come see me in the classroom. One-on-one in the classroom, note-taking contest, whatever class you want to take, a 1v1 you, come find me in the classroom.

Hi Dan, it's me Lucy and we are here in Cambridge, Massachusetts at one Harvard University where their most famous alum Pablo Torre attended. We're here for the game, Harvard-Yale to really capture the experience and also potentially if it worked out it would be nice if I found a husband here. But we're here to work, both for our job and work to find a husband so I don't have to work anymore.

How do you just feel about Yale? Who? Are people who go to Yale entitled or no? I mean, we're in New Haven, man. We come out of the slums, you know? People at Harvard, I mean, you got such nice buildings around. I feel like it's easy to take it for granted, you know? And how much do you hate Harvard? This much. They're cocky, they're pretentious, and their food sucks. The thing is about Harvard and Boston, you go to the airport,

And it's all Harvard, Harvard, Harvard. There's more than Harvard in Boston. Harvard sucks. Okay? There's a reason you're interviewing us right now, right? Because you guys want to be the best of the best in your craft. I personally don't care that much. I'm more so here for the vibes. I'm here to make friends. I think we need more peace and community actually. So what's your record? So who has the Ivy League title? Wait, so who has more Roach Scholars? Who has more Nobel Prizes?

More Rhodes Scholars! Oh my god! I have heard that this game is much better at Yale. Do you agree? I agree. You have mean people here at Harvard. It's Boston. You got to expect it. What makes it more fun? You don't have to pay $75 to get into a bad party.

So behind the scenes of off-roading is we have a producer here. He has been out here for a while just begging somebody to talk to us. Poor boy. He's just a poor boy begging for someone to do an interview. I'm going to pretend to be you, and you're going to be a Yale Harvard student who doesn't want to talk to us. Hey, we work for the Dan Levitard Show. We're doing interviews. Would you like to be on camera? Like college interview? Yeah, like we're just asking. No, no, no. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Is Yale a safety school? 100%. Some people just don't reach for the stars. Some people settle. All I'll say is once I found out I got into Harvard, I threw out those Yale essays. I didn't even apply. Safety school, safety school, safety school. How many of these kids do you think got denied by Iowa? Probably a lot of them. Probably a lot of them. Probably, they probably all applied. Couldn't get in. What is the worst grade you have ever gotten?

A minus. So I tried to experiment in pre-med. I did end up with a C plus. Pre-med or econ, just drop it. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You're saying yeah, like you didn't just say the worst grade you ever got was an A minus. By the way, if you went to one of the Ivy's, let's talk.

Mina Kimes or Pablo Torre? I'm gonna go Mina. I'll pick Mina. I'll say Pablo. Pablo. Mina, I don't know. Mina went to Yale and Pablo went to Harvard. You both lost. I'm gonna go Mina to go kick fricking rocks. What is this? This is the Dan Levitar show. I watch it every Thursday. Yeah, every Thursday. We're also on, but not Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday when we're also on. Well, those days I'm busy.

Dan, these are the future politicians, congressmen, doctors, lawyers, CEOs of this great nation. And I definitely just saw one of them break their leg trying to storm the field. Harbordale was actually pretty cool. It was actually a lot of fun. The vibes, they were electric. Next week, we're also going to the game. Michigan, Ohio State. Didn't find a husband here. Kind of a bummer, though. He's probably in a Princeton tailgate or something. I don't know.

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