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This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. The Chiefs had not lost since Christmas of last year. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Joe Burrow is the first quarterback in NFL history to throw for 300-plus yards, three-plus TDs, no interceptions in back-to-back games, and lose both of them. That's a good loss for the Chiefs, though, right? Because they got the Bills right where they want them. The Bills acting like they won the Super Bowl yesterday. Congratulations, you won a regular season game, and they still have home field advantage. I mean, what are you doing? Joe Burrow has 3,000 passing yards, 27 touchdowns, four interceptions. They're 4-7. Ha ha ha.

Nobody ever has the great quarterback going four and seven like that when the quarterback is playing great. But we are joined now. We have to stop because Stugatz looked into the preview and he was delighted because this man looks more like the face of boxing than Jake Paul does. Jacob Duran, Stitch is his name. He's the cut man.

for one of the best cut men working in boxing and MMA. What a great nickname for a cut man, Stitch. Yes, Jacob Stitch Duran is with us. And thank you, Jacob. You do look like the face of boxing. You look like the corner of every corner I've ever seen in a boxing match. Thank you for being on with us. What were your thoughts of the overall experience on Friday night?

Yeah, well, thanks for having me on you guys. But yeah, the energy level is still at its high point right now. Getting a little bit of sleep, answering a lot of questions like this, doing interviews and it's been phenomenal. But I'll take it all in stride because it was such a historical event, such a historical moment that will never, never be duplicated. But the high probability of working Mike Tyson's last fight,

To me, that was kind of like a feather on my cap, man. So it doesn't get much better than that. Yes, it does. It was a crappy fight. Well, regard that, you know, forget the fights. I don't look at that. I look at the events, right? And then you're looking at a 50-year-old man with a 27-year-old young man. So you are going to see discrepancies in that. So, yeah, it was more entertainment than it was victory value. At any point, did you feel bad for Mike?

Well, you know, I knew that he started slowing down like the start of the third round. You know, I told the mayor, Abdullah, it looked like he had hit a wall, you know, and people were talking about his leg and all that. And, you know, I'm focused on his face, so I'm not looking from here down. But in the dressing room and all that, he seemed fine.

How would the fight have had to have gone for Tyson to have a real chance? Like, like strategically, what would Jake Paul have had to do that would have really enabled Mike to, to have a shot? Fight him at the beginning instead of run away. Yeah. I think the, the conditioning factor, you know, if, uh,

You got a 58-year-old man, so the conditioning factor, I think, was the overall discrepancy in this whole event. But I saw him train. I saw Mike train, and I've known him over 25 years. We just trained at the same gym, so I knew his intensity type of training. And the days I was in the gym, I saw that. And I saw his sparring, and I saw that. But I think the excitement, the adrenaline, and everything, and then going into a fight, and then

You know, going in combat with another one will drain you right off the bat, and I think that's what happened there. Jacob, obviously you've been in the game forever. You're a legend. You've seen and know more about boxing than we ever know. Would Canelo stand a chance against Jake Paul? Hmm.

Yeah, 100%. Yeah, Jake Paul, as I break down the events of fighters and all that, there's A, B, C, and D. Jake Paul's a good B fighter. He's a good athlete. And the reason I know that, could I say I've done three events with him, four, I think four or five all together in the same program, but they were wrestlers. And when I had a school of kickboxing, guys that were wrestlers that came into kickboxing made a good transition because

They're athletes, right? But Canelo's a horse of a different color, bro. Now you're chewing a little bit more off than your ego is letting you do. Yeah.

Jacob, I want to put in front of you an accusation by Mike Ryan who says, and you were in the locker room, that the Mike Tyson ass video where he turned around after being interviewed by his son to reveal ass shocking an international audience at Old Man Ass. Mike Ryan says that that was a manufactured for television moment, that it was orchestrated. Can you give us from inside the locker room your personal opinion?

Well, you know, I saw Mike walk around, of course, you know, bare ass. And I was going to take a picture, you know, but I said, nah, you know, that's a little too personal. And then I see it on social media and I don't know who put it out there. But yeah, that was Mike at his finest point. So it's not usually part of his normal routine. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just finished putting his cup on and walking around and yeah, just kind of learned to accept Mike Tyson as

as Mike Tyson. Okay. But Mike Ryan is saying that that is a manufactured for television shock moment to go viral. Do you believe it was orchestrated? Yes or no? No, not at all. Not at all. You know, Mike's doing his thing and, uh,

Yeah, I wasn't orchestrated for that at all. That'd be embarrassing to Mike, I'm sure. I'm sure he got embarrassed. I'm sure his family got embarrassed. No, he looks great. Yeah, he looks great. It's a great ass. It's just a weird time to be doing it. You've been with him for a long time in his career. It's just an odd time to start doing something for the first time, walking around like that. Okay, that's fine. You can have your cynicisms if you want. The man is in the corner. The man is giving you his opinion. Is he in the production meetings?

You want to interrogate him? Sounds like you were trying to get the answer you wanted. You don't want to believe that this was totally manufactured. I don't see that as being fabricated at all. Jake Paul would never.

Oh, Jake Paul. Hey, man, you know, I'm new in this social media stuff. So, you know, you guys might have something, but I don't know. You know, I know I got to keep going. My keep interrogating Jacob Stitch Duran. Go ahead. Keep interrogating. See if you can get the answer you want on the cut front. Wasn't very busy for you. What was it? What was the deal with these big goofy gloves?

I mean, two-minute rounds, everybody had action on knockouts, and it became very evident that after two rounds, like, oh, we're not going to actually see the fireworks. They're playing with clown cartoon gloves. Yeah, those are sparring gloves. You know, and just to see the eight two-minute rounds to me was a surprise, but I understand. You know, this was not to see, you know, who's the best gladiator in the world. It's to see how much attention you're going to draw to this type of fight, and

I think it worked out for everybody. - Yes it did, that's right. - Yeah, the first time I've been in a fight, in a pro fight, in a major fight, where 14 ounce gloves have been used. - Stitch, take out the gloves from it and all the rules, and we were trying to figure out who was the greatest gladiator, and they were fighting to the death without rules. Who would have won?

Without rules, just the whole at the same age level? No, no, as it was. As it was, yeah. As it were, the prime. Mike's prime. Not in Mike's prime. He's saying right now. Right now, Friday. This Friday, we're going to do a rematch. No gloves. No rules. No jog straps. Naked. In an alley. There's an old saying in this sport where you can beat anything, but you can't beat time.

So hopefully that answers that question, right? Jake Paul, Mike Tyson, Stitch. You just said that. Yeah. Wow. Jacob, just real quick to put a bow on it. Is this the worst actual boxing match you've ever been a part of?

Well, yeah, I don't really consider it a boxing match, but it's the most entertaining one for sure. Okay, no, but not what I asked you. No, no, that's fine. Yeah, you know what? I think as the fight's going on and I hear people booing out there and I say, well, you know, they're going to have to pick it up a little bit, right? But I expected a toe-to-toe fight for as long as it lasted, to be honest with you.

You seem to be leading the witness here, Dan. I just asked him, is it or is it not the worst fight you've ever been in? So I'm trying to give you the kind of answer to stroke you, so I go to the next one. Wow. How you guys want to play the game? Let's play the game, man. Come on. I just asked him the question of whether it was or it wasn't. It was a question. Yeah, but you know what? And when you look deep into what goes on, when guys are making contact, all right, it's a hit sport, it's a hurt sport, right?

Whatever the result's going to be, you've got to give those guys credit for just being in there taking a shot. Respect to them both. It was a shitty fight, I agree. I'm not going to expect it more, a lot more, but in a sense, it was good for the entertainment value. Listen, people are cynical. They assume the next $20 million offer is going to change everything. Percentage likelihood that we have seen Mike Tyson's last fight ever?

I would probably say the probability is almost 100%. I think reality will kick in that you can beat anything, but you can't beat time. So, yeah, I think he'll do fine. He's one of the best cut men working in boxing and MMA. Jacob, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the time, sir.

No, thank you, guys. I'm going to go back to sleep now because it's an early call for me. So thanks for being on, guys. You really get it. You get the entertainment value of the thing. You don't care if it impacts boxing or not. And father time is undefeated. You really get it, man. Great mustache, too. And a great mustache. How old is that mustache, Jacob? Beautiful. Beautiful.

Well, since I was 12 years old, like Pedro. Oh, wow. Since he got 12 years old? What? That must have been shocking to the other 12-year-olds to have that and mustache when you were 12 years old. Yeah, and you know what's funny? In the other computer game, they had me without my glasses. And I said, well, you know, my mustache, my glasses, and my hair are my profile. So I'm trying to get it back. Good seeing you, Chuck. Thanks for having me on, guys. Thank you. Thank you very much.

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I want to see the Chiefs. Oh, Stugatz. I want Patrick Mahomes strolling into my stadium with max confidence. I want Travis Kelsey. I want Taylor Swift. I want the team that lost to Jordan Love. I want the team that lost to Aiden O'Connell. I want the team that trailed 17 to nothing to Jake Browning. That is the team that I would like to face in the playoffs. That's the team. Indeed. I,

that I would want to face in the playoffs because that team is not very good. This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats. We're going to get to Stugats' weekend observations here in just a second, but I did want to get back, Stugats, quickly before we do that, to a couple of football-related things. The Bears...

in maximum Bears fashion. They allowed one touchdown when they were offside and had 12 men on the field and allowed the touchdown anyway. The Packers debilitate them at the end. What are you smirking about, Jessica? Nothing. Terrible, terrible loss for the Bears. So stinky. Hmm.

I'm still trying to process that guy at age 12. With a mustache. With a mustache that looked like that at age 12. Please, I couldn't grow that mustache today.

You're having some difficulty here with your bad arm day, and you've been having an unruly hair situation. Have you cut your hair since we publicly cut your hair here? Have you cut your hair? Because it seems like it's grown out a great deal. And when I came in here, it looked like you had stuck your finger in a light socket. Yeah, I had, actually, which is surprising because the light sockets are so small. It's tough to do that.

And I wouldn't recommend it for anybody else. I have had a haircut since the freebie I got here, which wasn't really free because I had to tip the guy 20 bucks. But I need a haircut. But the arm day, I don't know when it's going to go away. Bad arm week, I thought. Well, it's a bad arm week for now. It'll take a while. I mean, it's... Have you ever had a bad arm month, Greg? Yeah.

I have in the past. It comes and goes, this thing, this condition. And I've talked to my skin doctor about it. It was a dermatologist. And she's not overly concerned. She's like, ah, it's sort of an age thing. Don't worry about it. Forget about it. The splotchiness on your arm. Yeah, and I would like a magic cream that just made it go away. Because it's the red splotches. You can moisturize. It's unsightly.

you know, so it is what it is. Doctors need to find the perfect balance, right? Because like, I don't like a doctor that's way too like lax about things, but I also don't like a doctor that's overly concerned about situations. You need a doctor that's like very level headed and meets kind of what you need from them. Right. I like overly concerned. Really? Yeah. Uh,

You know, I have a little bit of hypochondriac in me. And so I like to I want that extra test. I want that extra scan. What are you talking about? You famously like undersell everything to your doctor. No, you think I've had to go to doctor's appointments with you when your cough was bad. I went with you to a doctor's appointment. That kind of thing. And then I spoke to the doctor and he was like, oh, you haven't told me any of this.

Greg, your thoughts, if I were to rewind the last 90 seconds for the people who are listening, it's like you don't know that you're on the air and you're not performing. It's just you're talking like around the kitchen, that kind of thing. It doesn't matter whether what you're saying makes sense or not. You're just...

It's just unspooling gibberish instead of, like, thoughts like you're a professional broadcaster on a Monday. Okay, I've heard him make this rant before. It's only partly rooted in truth. I take care of myself like nobody's business. I see six doctors. I got scans out the ass. Everybody's always taking x-rays and doing this, doing that. Popping pills. Six pills a day. Nobody works on their health more than Greg Cody. Nobody. Okay?

That kind of thing. It seems like you should be concerned, though. I mean, all those scans, medications. I mean, but I got it under control. Okay. You know. Good. But you're having a bad arm week, and the way that you have it under control is by wearing a long-sleeve shirt. Yeah, because she can't prescribe a magic lotion for me. You know, invent one. It's on her. Yeah. You're bruising because your dog...

jumps up because you can't discipline it and scratches you with its talons, right? In this case, yeah, a little bit, yeah. And you are now officially a person who bruises easily. You were not that before. Yeah, I have a little bit of a crepey skin thing. Well, when it comes to hypochondria, though, I think of Stugatz as more of a hypochondriac than you. I think of you as someone who will stubbornly not go to the doctor. Is it because...

you're a hypochondriac and you don't want the doctor to tell you the truth about what things are happening because I know when for example you look jaundiced or green or coughing too much it takes many of us seven or eight times to push you to a doctor because you're reluctant yeah I think five years ago all of that was true when I was at my worst after I'd come out of my

fairly major surgery on my abdomen, and I had such a chronic cough that I had to leave my own bedroom. I couldn't sleep at night. I had to go to the far end of the house and try to sleep because I couldn't fall asleep because of my chronic cough. A special kind of torture, that one. Yes, it was. And we finally got that under control with medication, and that

taught me that this isn't going to take care of itself i need to really start seeing doctors and medicating myself and figure out what's going on your son is rolling his eyes at you right now because your son famously i'm always chasing after your son stay after your father uh because he's rolling his eyes at you because of how hard it is to get you to take care of yourself you've gotten better about this i'll give you that but you're not a hypochondriac like you're that you're

you're like going to the far end of the spectrum. Like you're now every single thing I go into the, like mom is still having to be like, Oh, you're coughing bad this week. Why don't you make an appointment? Like, I mean, Greg, he is right because hypochondriacs and I am one, they just show up to the doctor without an appointment. Can't get enough. Can't get enough. Give me a reason to come back. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not quite there. I'm not quite that bad.

But if I have a tickle in my throat and I clear my throat, your mother wants me to get some more prednisone. You know, I don't want to like... Doctors don't like to prescribe steroids. Well, that's the issue is that your fix for this is a steroid. Well, that prednisone is my magic drug. That's not a long-term solution, though, is what I've always argued. You're right. It isn't. It helps when I'm taking the pills and a few days after that, but...

You're right, it isn't. But that's why I puff inhalers and take other pills. It is what it is. I'm 70 years old. I have asthma, mild COPD, and I'm doing the best I can. Can you rub the prednisone on your arms?

Since it's a magic pill. Is it? Can someone explain to me why it is any of us ever say it is what it is? Like, just as an expression. I don't know, but I hate it so much. It drives me crazy. I hate when I say it, and when I say it, I get mad at myself. But sometimes it is what it is, right? Roy loves this one, but as a signature catchphrase, it stinks, it doesn't mean anything, and I don't know why it is anyone would utter it. It's terrible. It's thought terminating. You say it is what it is, and like,

Yeah, it is. But it's because you don't have anything to say. It's a bridge to other thoughts. It's not useful commentary. It's a waste of breath. Well, you mentioned earlier the phrase, time will tell. It's in that similar category. Well, I objected to that, too, when Billy said it.

Just in terms of useless commentary. I like useful commentary. I've got plenty of useless commentary. So time will tell, and it is what it is. It's just not helpful. I mean, time will tell. You want me to go game by game on the Marlins schedule, tell you how the manager's going to do? We don't even know who's on what teams yet. Free agency is going on now. I can do the game by game. You want to do game by game for the Marlins season? We're going to get to Stugatz's weekend observations here in a second. I did want to ask you guys, though, because you guys rose up on me last week when I

I probably got carried away and I said that Cam Ward had lost the Heisman because he doesn't have enough Heisman moments. And what I wanted to ask you, because I saw it revealed to me on Saturday, Fox goes to its studio and they go to Emmanuel Acho. This, God, this made me laugh out loud when they did it.

So it's the Acho room, and he's going to be maximum televised Acho. And for some reason, they're playing the highlight package of Travis Hunter, who had three plays in that Colorado game that are the kinds of plays that you need to win this trophy, plays that are played over and over again. But they go to Emmanuel Acho, and all they're going to him on is to cover those three plays, which are being played under his feet.

Like it's not being played on the screen behind him, it's just to show you that they have the technological capacity to show you Travis Hunter running around on the floor beneath Acho's feet as he points right and left to where the plays are going. But it was simply for Fox to show you that they have the technology

To do this with the floor, which is exactly how it is you end up getting the kind of pub that you need so that everyone is noticing your big plays in a way that they haven't had signature memorable plays for Cam Ward. Fox also trotted out a hologram Tom Brady. Creepy. In their pregame show. What? Creepy. That everybody apparently...

didn't like. Imagine. Tell me more. He was standing next to the guys in studio, but he wasn't actually standing there. It was a hologram of Tom Brady and they would talk about it and they would talk to the hologram. They're like facing each other. You see Gronk looking this way. But real Tom Brady is somewhere else talking back? Right.

He's where they're, he's broadcasting the game of the day. So imagine explaining to Gronk, look to your left as if Tom Brady was there, but he's not, and you're talking to him. We're getting carried away, aren't we? I mean...

I mean, it's cool. It's getting people talking. I mean, change up studio production. We are no longer criticizing Tom Brady as a broadcaster. He can now just sort of ease into being $375 million guy. I think they're pretty much really doing that week to week on the social media front. I know Mad Dog Russo had a take out of him. It hasn't gone the way that...

We'd hoped. He's had some bright moments, but this is also a really kooky dynamic that he has over there. It might actually lead to harsher criticism and hopefully it gets a little bit more comfortable because he's not interfacing with these people when he's calling these games because he's a port owner of the Raiders. It's not going great. I thought it was going to be a lot better. I think I have to capitulate on this one.

He just got to tighten it up. He just goes too long. He's always talking, and it's like, okay, you're doing well. Just stop. And he just goes always like five or seconds too much. Five or six seconds too much. We got it. We got it. He was trying to save time. Take a note, Tom Brady. That's what Brady needs to do.

Tom Brady is getting panned, but I thought it was a lot quieter than it was after game one. Like, we're going to complain on whoever the broadcaster is. We're not giving a whole lot of praise to anybody these days for broadcasting.

We didn't complain about Olsen, did we? No, but he's not the one that's getting the praise now because he's not on the main game and there were no expectations for Olsen. He was an unexpected surprise. I've told you one of the great theater experiences of my life, movie theater, was The Matrix because I don't like Keanu Reeves and I don't like science fiction. So I go in and I see The Matrix and I'm like, whoa, I didn't expect anything.

Nobody expected anything from Greg Olson, and he was able to consistently surprise us. Tom Brady walks in, $375 million. It's all we're talking about before he started.

The expectations are totally different. The expectation of excellence is a crippler, but I thought the criticism had been diluted. It doesn't mean there's not going to be criticism. I just thought it was worse on week one than it's been since, that he's since become a bit of an afterthought. It's not one of the main talking points of the weekend that Tom Brady is less good at his job than you'd like him to be. It was up there with the Russo thing, and I think...

Most people generally have the same complaint that Chris has. He's talking too much. My criticism is he's not leaning on his own personal experience all that much and not becoming really a storyteller because if you're not going to have inside access in these rooms, if you're not meeting with a coach, I just want to hear Tom Brady's true thoughts. And he's had those moments with Baker Mayfield.

They were essentially beefing on air because they didn't have the opportunity to clear the air face-to-face. And when he was also calling Baker Mayfield on that boast of play, saying that's the greatest play I've ever seen a quarterback make. These are where Tom Brady speaks with authority, and I wish he would be encouraged to do that more.

Mike is so right about that because Tom Brady has been in every possible situation. A quarterback whose game he's calling is going through at that time, and he never draws on those past experiences to explain to the audience, this is what the quarterback is thinking, this is what I went through, and this is what you need to do. He needs to do more of that, and he needs to just relax. He is very stiff in there. He just seems stiff. He seems nervous. So why didn't you like Keanu Reeves? Just wasn't a fan of...

Like Johnny Mnemonic? Just wasn't a big fan of Cain. None of them. Like didn't love the Bill and Ted stuff. Didn't love any of it. I rewatched Bram Stoker's Dracula. His hair color. Did you see Point Break? Changes the camera shot to camera shot. Sometimes it's white hair. Sometimes what is happening there?

Sometimes it's brown. Sometimes it's salt and pepper. Sometimes it's just straight up white. You say what is happening there. And I ask that question of the San Francisco 49ers because you mentioned Bosa and that play with Baker Mayfield very quietly yesterday under the avalanche of everything that happened in football. A team we believe to be playoff good. San Francisco 49ers. Yeah.

uh... take a hit yesterday and it was funny to see them lose against seattle at home

As soon as Bosa left the game, Geno Smith, two touchdowns. Like Bosa leaves the game with a hip injury and it's like, oh, there goes their pass rush and there goes everything. They just lost because they can't stop Geno Smith from any angle. They can't get a pass rush and they just lost to Seattle at home when none of us think that that's what the San Francisco 49ers season is supposed to be this year. Seattle is confusing, huh? Not really. Really? No, they'll be 500 with Geno Smith and he'll come close to leading the league in passing and you won't win anything.

The Lions are going to win the Super Bowl. The Lions have to win the Super Bowl this year. They added a game. You can't go 500 more. I'm just saying there'll be a medium. Oh, that's true. Good point. What are we doing with odd numbers? I don't like it. The NFC West, by the way, is still very much up for grabs. Even after yesterday's game, they're still only a game out of first place. I also happen to think it's actually really good. They're just beating each other up. So the general impression of the division as a whole is not probably where it should be.

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Don Levitard. Greg, how's your birthday going so far? I invented it. It's going fantastic. My wife and I are staying home tonight. We're watching the debate on TV. We're going to do something special for dinner. It's a nice day for me so far. Stugatz. That sounds like not a super nice night. The debate. Old people love that shit. Yeah. Ha ha ha.

That's exactly right. Yeah. That's exactly right. Old people do love that shit. And I'm old now. I can't deny it anymore. This is the Don Levitas Show with the Stugats. We will get to Stugats' weekend observations in a second. But from among the football things from the weekend, because we haven't gotten to college football yet, there were two things from that Titans game

that were worth talking about. One of them is that they had the longest play in the sport this year, 98 yards. The other one was, this bothered me, the Titans are on defense. The Vikings have fourth and goal defense.

And they throw into the end zone. And the ball is broken up by what has been throughout my entire lifetime a perfectly legal hit right in the chest. And a flag comes out, and then it puts it goal line situation first down. It's just a really damaging penalty to get wrong. It's worth way too much in a sport where the points are hard to come by, and it's hard to score against Minnesota. And I end up getting bothered because I legitimately don't know anymore about

What is a legal hit in football? Because if you hit someone too hard, I'm like, that's a penalty. Even when you hit them with your shoulder in the chest, which is what happened.

Like they accused him of launching and a bunch of other different things. I'm like, no, that's just it. Like that's a hit. You're allowed to hit somebody in the chest with your shoulder. It's not the sport is too violent that you're going to change the way that this game is recorded because you're making a call that is so punitive on something that doesn't seem to be the right call and what you're penalizing. Ah, that looked too violent on television. That's what you're penalizing. It's no longer that you're actually penalizing football. It's just that looked bad. Yeah.

is what it was. And I guess we're now protecting sternums. And when I'm watching that, given how hard it is to get points in that game, given that it seems like everyone's playing in a phone booth even though that game had a 98-yard play, Will Levis is running around out there trying to kill himself to not score. Like, they're not scoring against Minnesota.

So if Minnesota, if you give Minnesota free points, you're not going to be able to be in that game if you're Tennessee. Right. And I'm just wondering if you guys are watching any of this and being like, this isn't even me being like, you know, I understand how you have to make the game safer.

I understand the moral conundrums involved with the general violence of the game. But once you've gotten to the point that you can't hit someone in a way that looks like it hurts without being penalized, I'm like, you're no longer legislating football. You're just doing PR. Yeah, I would argue that there's an overprotection of the quarterback right now and that there's also an inconsistency on what and what isn't unnecessary roughness. I saw a play yesterday where the defender said,

shoves the quarterback in the chest. And the quarterback, theatrically, I thought, falls backwards. Well, you have to sell it now because you know they're going to call it. Right. Or there's a chance they're going to call it. Yeah, and that was a flag. And I didn't think it should have been. I thought it was a shove. It seemed like a pretty mild shove to the chest.

The quarterback didn't have to fall, but the flag flew. And I think that's an example of overprotecting the quarterback. Yeah, Dan, there's also like in the non-quarterback category, this happened in a play in a Steelers game a few weeks ago where Minkovic

Fitzpatrick got flagged for the same sort of hit you're talking about where he it was a really really like bone crushing hard hit but it was legal and so I think it was against the Colts they got 15 yards ended up scoring won the game by like three points and afterwards the ref said that that was an incorrect call and it was actually shouldn't have been penalized and so like just from watching football all weekend like

the Pitt-Clemson game on Saturday, there was inconsistencies with the roughing the passer call where Cade Klubnick got roughed and they called it on Pitt and then a few plays later, Pitt's quarterback had a massive shot to the helmet that they didn't call initially and then eventually the refs did call it after everyone booed them for five minutes. It was just a disaster. The Notre Dame-Virginia game had a

a ton of bad calls in it. Like the officiating just, I don't know what to say about it other than it is wildly inconsistent. It's frustrating as a fan, especially when there's points being put on the board because of calls like this in late game situations. And I just don't know what else there is to say other than it stinks sometimes. I keep saying, I keep saying forms of the following though. The reason it's wildly inconsistent is

It can't humanly be done consistently. It's moving too fast. Like we can put all sorts of stipulations in there. You know what you could do? If something is too punitive to be game altering, we're always reviewing that. We don't care if it slows up the game. You can't have something go from fourth and short, you've turned over the ball, to that seven points because of what you just called –

you should review that until you get that right. Like there's no circumstance under which a penalty should be that punitive where it's worth more than all the other things in a sport we're watching where we're like, oh, oh, look,

look, the Ravens and the Steelers are trying to kill each other. What's the difference in that game? The kicker can't make a couple of kicks. These calls are worth too much to do it poorly. And you're trying to govern something that simply can't be governed consistently. It's not a problem of these people aren't competent or they're not putting in enough hours. All of that shit's moving too fast for old human beings to be able to get everything right. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I sort of empathize with having to make those splits

split-second decisions, but I don't know what the solution is because I do think people care about the game being slowed down a lot. People hate reviews, especially if you're at a game and you're wasting three minutes on a total slowdown. It kills the momentum. It kills the fun. No one wants to see football games get even longer because of long, slow reviews after just cackling.

It's an either-or situation, though. You get one, not both, sports fan. You either get your sport properly officiated or you deal with longer games. You don't get to have both of those things. I'll take the longer games with them getting it right. You had the Vikings yesterday, huh? I did not have the Vikings. You spent a lot of time on Vikings-Titans. No, it was just when it was—they were in the red zone twice.

One was a 98-yard play, and the other time was I'm looking at a call. I'm like, that's not right. You can't do that. And did anyone else have trouble with the glitchiness of the red zone? I saw a ton of complaints about it, but no one here had glitchiness with the red zone? Put it on the poll, please, at Levitard Show. Was your red zone glitchy this weekend? Because this weekend reminded me with the technological issues,

of the advent of people getting addicted to the cell phone before the cell towers had totally the technology that they needed. So calls were always breaking up, but we had already gotten used to, this is something that we do in the car, so it needs to work. So we complain about the cell towers. This weekend, you notice what the danger is in live sports because think of it.

The reason I saw a lot of complaints is, man, you make it glitchy during the witching hour? You're messing with people's addictions now. You're now invading the... It's where wins turn to losses. The entertainment being diluted there is not allowed because you've gotten too used to consuming it without...

dilution. So when you tune into Jake Paul and Tyson and you get buffering or where you turn into the red zone and you get buffering, people get angrier about that than any other kind of buffering. There is a commercial that airs occasionally when I'm watching games on YouTube TV and I have an Android TV and the commercial in the commercial itself, the actor goes, hey, Google,

and that automatically sets off my remote and it pauses the entire thing. I'm doing it to someone else right now and I apologize. But I feel like this should have been considered when we put this ad out there because you have a solid chunk, I imagine like 30% of the people watching that in that moment all of a sudden have to pause and tell their TV, no, that wasn't me, I didn't mean to do that.

When you guys talk about boxing, you always talk about buffer this, buffer that. But then when Netflix buffers, you don't like buffer anymore. You know what I love on YouTube is the moment of sin. Oh, it's the best. It is unbelievable. It is so good. Yes, I'll skip that ad. Oh, Valhalla. Mike, is there anyone in our audience whose wife is named Siri who has this problem? No, but maybe there's some Alexas over there. I've said the word Alexa in my kitchen and never.

you know, the person, Alexa answers me. I didn't even mean her. Why were you saying Alexa? Just for fun? It happened once. My wife and I were discussing Billy Joel. Yes. And he's got a song, I think it's about his daughter, and Alexa's in the title. So I'm saying to my wife, what's that Billy Joel song,

About his daughter, Alexa. And then over there, disembodied voices going, may I help you or something? No, that's happened to me, too. I'm having a discussion with my wife in my room and it's a serious discussion. And then it's like moving out by Billy Joel. I don't have access. What are you talking about? We're talking. Chris Cody on Thursday night. If people want a riveting conversation like this over nachos and rib rolls.

Rib rolls and chicken wings. Do you have a favorite Flanagan's item, Billy? Is there one item among all the items that you like more than the others? How can you pick just one? So many good options. The cup. The cup is good. The wings are good. The ribs are good. It's all good. We're doing this on Thursday night. The Steelers bring their culture of violence to the Browns. I fully expected someone to pull out a samurai sword during that Ravens-Steelers game.

Thursday night's a Steelers trap game, Dan. Wow. We should do custom Levitard show Flanagan's cups. Oh. With my face on them? Two days notice. Yeah. I mean, we don't have to do it now, but we could do it at some point. We should. Put my face where Flanagan's face is? Greg kind of looks like Flanagan. I've been told that. Have you? Yeah, Joe Flanagan. Ah, Papa Joe. I have. Jeffrey Loria. You know, I look like all kind of people. You do look like Jeffrey. Zellig. I'm everywhere. Ha ha ha.

Are you going Thursday night? I had not planned on it, which is not the same as saying no or yes. What if I told you the Browns were playing? Then I definitely would not go. It's right by your house. It's in North Miami Beach. Yeah, it's such a quick hike. Can I say one thing about the Pittsburgh-Baltimore rivalry? The only good rivalry in the NFL. That's the one thing that college football does better is rivalries.

When I think of an NFL rivalry, I start and stop with Baltimore-Pittsburgh. What's the second best? I mean, there are a lot inside of divisions. Name one that rivals that. Eagles-Cowboys is pretty good. Bears-Packers, but the Packers own the Bears. Well, but is the owning the part of it? Because the Steelers have owned the Ravens. You're damn right. It's a weird thing that's happened. They get no credit. They've won over the last four years. Think about what I'm about to say here.

Over the last four years, one of the teams has the MVP, and that team has lost eight of the nine games it has played. Like, that's not how that one usually goes. And if you look at those nine games, right, 8-1 disparity, every one of them is close, and every one of them is like a 1917 score. It's amazing. I'm not even lying. Look up.

All the same game. Well, this one's Ravens. This one's Brown Steelers. No Ravens. So it's probably going to be a bit of a different matchup. One culture of violence. But Kadarius Toney is there, and that's been pretty fun. He almost scored yesterday. Granted, he finished the game with negative seven yards, but he did almost score. You had to watch it to make sense of it. But again, come out and join us this Thursday night. Flanagan's in North Miami Beach. 13205 Biscayne Boulevard for a Thursday night football watch party presented by Miller Lite.

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