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God bless football, Billy Gill. God bless football, Mikey A. God bless football, Fuentes. God bless football, Stugatz. Mikey A., did you, like me, enjoy having the Jets on a bye week and watching all the former Jets excel around the NFL? Because that's what I spent my day doing yesterday. Well, I don't know.

I don't know that I enjoyed watching them excel around the NFL, but I did enjoy not having that pressure of having to watch a garbage team. Yes, yes. It was the best. I would say it was the best Sunday of bad games in NFL history. I looked at that one o'clock slate. I'm like, I'm not interested in any of these games, but that witching hour was perhaps the best and longest witching hour of all time. I mean, crazy, Billy. Where do we start?

I started with the witching hour. I'm saying, where do we start in terms of games that happened yesterday in the NFL? Yesterday was a crazy NFL game. You're right. It didn't look like there was going to be great games. And then it was a great day. Right. Yeah. Football always wins. Where do you want to start? I mean, the Dolphins look great.

Two of the last two games has maybe been the best, you know, best quarterback in the NFL. You had that Washington game yesterday. You had the Chiefs with a win over Carolina. Carolina with a great, not a good loss, perhaps the greatest loss in the history of the NFL. What a great loss it was. The greatest loss in the history of the NFL.

You know you have a quarterback, or at least you're starting to think that you might have a quarterback in Bryce Young. You don't want to beat Kansas City. You want to know that you have a quarterback and be competitive with Kansas City. And that's what Carolina did. Okay, so I have a question for you. Yes. And this is something that we may not be comfortable with, right? But...

At the beginning of the season, friend of the show, friend of yours, dare I say friend of ours, Spags was in studio. He was. We were saying Spags is the MVP of the league. Yes. Spags and the defense were keeping the Chiefs in it. Yeah. At the beginning part of the season. They were. Last couple weeks, offense has been looking better. Yes. Defense hasn't been looking as good. No. And Bryce Young...

Seems to have figured out Spags yesterday. Yes. It's an indictment on Spags is what you're saying. You're going to offend our friend Spags? I'm not. I'm not saying maybe we took it easy this week against the Panthers. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying we thought, and you haven't really done a ton of it this year, thought something was a little bit off in Kansas City. We thought we knew what it was. Right. Right.

And now the script has flipped a little bit. Yes. And now it still seems like something is off in Kansas City. It does. But we're not quite sure exactly what is off and what will be off one week to the next. But also, why are we starting with this game with the way the Commanders and the Cowboys game went yesterday? Ah.

I have no idea. I mean, you brought up the Chiefs. I was just saying that it was a great loss for Carolina. That's all. But Washington yesterday, what a game. And what a bad, bad win for Dallas. I would say what a finish. Was it a good game, though? Yeah, not a great game, though. Good finish. It was a great five minutes. So 41 of the 60 points were scored in the fourth quarter. Yeah. It was a good, like, what the hell is going on here? Did everyone forget how to play football? Yeah.

Like even, even in saying it was good. Every single play that happened essentially was like, someone forget how to play football in this play. Like how did this just happen right now? Uh, Jada Daniels, that final play. That was insane. You have to go for two in that spot. Don't you? Well, the final play, I think he threw an interception. Well, no, I'm talking about the play that I know you're talking about. Actually would tie up the game. They missed the extra point, but you have to have McLaurin. I don't know how that happens. The breakdown in the Dallas defense there. But if you're, I'm serious, uh,

If you are Dan Quinn and you're the commanders and you have Dallas and they're like in one of those, like I'm shocked moments. You just quickly line up for two and you go for it. I think we're in love with going for two this year. Exactly. Two is having a huge year. I think it's a little, he did go for two a little bit earlier and he got to, however, it's going well. However, well, I was going to say, however, like,

Commanders are a much better team than the Cowboys. If you're Dallas, you go for two to win. Yeah. The commanders think that they, okay, we tie the game. They're going to get the ball back with no time. Like this is fine. We'll just handle it in overtime. There's a lot of like dumb luck plays that happened in that game. There's like block punts, blocked field goals, missed field goals, missed extra points. There was a returned touchdown on a kickoff where the ball was fumbled at the beginning. And then the spin move was made with no one within five yards of the guy.

And then he still runs it back for a touchdown. The accidental circle button. Exactly right. Like, that was a crazy game. And then obviously, even after you get it, you then go for the onside kick and give up a touchdown on an onside kick. Like, that game was a lot of fun, but also a lot of crazy.

A lot of crazy, but listen, if it takes all that, like the final five minutes to make it a great game, then I'll call it a great game because to me that was a great game. Those final five minutes were fantastic. By the way, T's and P's to Austin Eckler and his concussion, hopefully. Yes. That's well soon on that. That didn't look good. No, no. I mean, they never do. Yeah. No. Uh-huh. So how'd you feel about the Dolphins, Billy? Because we've been telling Dan that the Dolphins are in the mix. The Dolphins, I think, probably had...

the most impressive i think from start to finish they were as impressive as any team in the nfl yesterday defense and the packers look great the rare eight and three team that's in third place yeah i mean that division unbelievable but the years also looked good yesterday but there's the giants and they're back in the wild card mix i have no idea what's what who's who if anyone's good i have no idea especially this year

both in college and the NFL. I have no idea if there's a single great team out there anywhere. Well, the Lions. I was going to say also. Yeah, the Lions might want to sprinkle in a loss. I mean, they are getting hot at the wrong time. We're burning through all the takes right now. I was going to say. He's right, though. I got plenty more, Billy. We don't know who's good and who's not in the NFL. Also, college seems to be the same situation. We're going to talk to Lucy coming up in a couple minutes. Yes, yes. Hold your horses on that one. We're going to get to college in a second. I can't talk about it now, though. No, we can talk.

about it now but you just told me to hold my horses no I'm just saying hold your horses if you if you're worried about college we're gonna get to it here in a moment oh you're telling the audience yeah yeah yeah audience my bad horses sorry hold them Texans I don't know if they're good but that's a story for another day CJ Stroud CJ Stroud whoa listen we might have been a little early on that Carolina might win that draft after all I was gonna say you redrafted I wonder if you don't go in the same order

Just wondering. Who were the quarterbacks from last year's draft? Was there a third sneaky quarterback? Anthony Richardson, no? Yeah. Oh, Richardson. Yeah. If you were to redraft it, are you saying it now? No, I said I wonder if you redraft if you go in the same order.

Worth a conversation. I never thought we, the fact that we're having this conversation is a big win for Bryce. Well, okay. But here's the thing. He's back, baby. He is back. He's back in the conversation. Here's the thing is that like you saw the CJ Stroud high, right? So like you hope that he can get back to that. Cause last year he had just a crazy touchdown interception. He was great. He wasn't throwing any interceptions this year. He's throwing more interceptions. Yes. Also, can we, can we, can we do it real quick? Just real quick.

Winners and losers. I want it. Oh, boy. Presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. Please drink responsibly. Oh, wow. Oh, that sounds like winners and losers. Anyways. Does it? It is. Okay. Oh, the music. Right. So, winners and losers presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka. The biggest winner of the weekend. And you're not going to, it's related to this game, and you're going to understand why as soon as I get to it. Biggest winner this weekend, Dan Orlovsky.

Oh, wow. Yes. I think you're right. Huge winner this week. He's off the hook. Off the hook. He won't be. We're still going to see it. But CJ Stroud coming in. Everyone was raving about him. Dan Orlovsky, great commentator. Very nice guy. Weird eater by all accounts. Yes. Friend of the show. He's been on a number of times. Very lovely man. Yep.

But I would say, like, in terms of his professional career, like, people weren't going to say he's one of the all-time greats. No, no one would say that he's even good. I mean, I say that respectfully. You're taking it a step too far. Dan Orlovsky is a friend. Is he the all-time okay? What?

He's okay. But I think by his own admission, he would tell you, yeah, it was just okay. I'm just saying, if you want to show someone running out of the end zone, are you going to show Dan Orlovsky or are you going to show CJ Stroud? No, it's Stroud's forever. Well, I think it still might be Orlovsky because at least Stroud, there was pressure. He was being pushed and kind of touched out of bounds, whatever, where Orlovsky was just running around like a...

Chicken with his head cut off, as they say. Plus, it's the original. It is, but here's the point. You could have a million butt fumbles. It's always going to be owned by Mark Sanchez. I mean, that's it. I think you're right. I don't think you can have a million butt fumbles. I said, if you could, Mark Sanchez would still own that moment. The point is, it was a great moment for Dan Orlovsky and the Orlovsky family because C.J. Stroud, who everyone says is going to be a great, had a great rookie season,

you know, is going to be a great player. Same thing happened to him yesterday. And by the way, at a worse time, because it was at a potential, you know, time to drive and win the game. Sure. So anyways, big winner for me and winners and losers presented by smearing off the world's number one vodka, Dan Orlovsky. All right. I have a winner here. Okay. The Chicago bears while losing, they won. Yeah. Yeah.

It was a competitive game. I think they see over the last two games that they have a quarterback in Caleb Williams. They could feel pretty good about maybe they didn't blow that pick. Wait, hold on a second. What? Where is he now in your rankings? Because you have been putting him out of your top five of quarterbacks drafted. Now you're saying the last two weeks they see they have a quarterback. Yeah, he's back in. May is out. Yeah, Drake May. Drake May was bad. Maybe not. Maybe not. Right.

Right. So he's back into the top five, Caleb Williams. That's a good way. Like you don't want to win that game. If you're Chicago, you're not going to do anything this year. Anyway, you want to build around Caleb Williams. You get a better draft pick, but you saw your team be competitive. You saw your team not give up on its coach. And Caleb Williams had his best year, his best game throughout this rookie campaign. That was his best game of the year by four. Okay. Question for you guys. Yes. At this point in the season, in the bears, uh,

Do you kind of maybe want the team to give up on the coach a little bit? Like, do you kind of maybe not want them to rally around Iver Flus? I think he's out no matter what. I know, but do you kind of maybe... I'm not sure it doesn't matter, right? Do you kind of maybe... It doesn't matter. He's gone.

maybe start the rumblings. Oh, he's lost the team a little bit here to make sure we kind of like, ah, thanks, Matt. Here you go. We backed it back for you. This is a, it's a great question. Billy's asking, do you want the coach to lose the team? It's never been asked before in the history of doing this. Billy is asking, do you want a coach to lose? Do you want the team to lose confidence in its coach? Not necessarily. Not necessarily, but do you want to dispel any narrative of rallying around the coach? Like almost,

So much to the point, and this sounds terrible. And by the way, then now the Bears get back into that pattern of drafting a quarterback and firing the coach one year after they draft the quarterback, which we've seen has worked out great for them. So do you maybe if you're like a Bears player, I don't even know who it would be, but like I feel like this is the position of like a

a veteran leader on the Bears, where in the postgame, you have that loss. That's the guy, Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen. Guys, gather around. They've never seen some things. Guys, gather around. No, no, not gather around. No, no. Here's the situation. Guys, I sent you an email. No, no. Check your texts. This is how it goes.

So you have a gritty win yesterday. You head into the post-game press conference or the scrum around the locker room. Everyone says, wow. Like you're saying, great loss, gritty win. You guys showed some fight yesterday. That was a wow. You really see potential. Right, a QL, quality loss. I think that's where Keenan Allen, team leader, steps in and says to the media, now, I want to get out ahead of this.

Before we start with this, we are not rallying around our coach. We did not rally around our coach. That's not what happened today. Bad job today. Moving forward. No, we did great. But let the record show, we did not, nor will we, be rallying around the coach. Okay. So next week, if you're Keenan Allen, you're telling the team to dial it back

next week. No, I'm saying, I'm saying, no, no, I'm saying you don't necessarily dial it back. Well, if you keep being competitive in games against good teams, people are just going to say they're rallying around the coach. That's why I'm playing for my brother. That's why you immediately come out and get ahead of that narrative right away. You just spell that rumor. You say, let it be known media. And I'd say it outright. And obviously it will lead to some awkward practices. Keenan has to say it. Right. Keenan, whoever, whoever. No, Keenan, Keenan's the guy. Okay, fine. Keenan can say it.

Or if you have like a DJ Moore comes in and he steps into a leadership role. You ask for a guy, Mikey A and I are telling you, Keenan's your guy. It could be, but I'm saying if someone else has to, if someone else has to, because listen. But no one else can is what we're telling you. Look, we saw a little bit from Malik Neighbors yesterday with the Giants. Yes. We saw him come out and he said,

Not the quarterback. But he hasn't seen stuff. Had the exact same results with DJ. But he hasn't seen it. There's problems here. He hasn't seen what Keenan has seen. I mean. There's problems. He hasn't been around the block. But he stepped up in a leadership role and he went out there in front of the media and he made the comments yesterday. So I think we need someone on the Bears to ensure that we head down the correct path here and we bring in a new coach. You come right out and you say, let it be known.

There's no rallying behind this coach, nor will there be. We are doing this on our own, of our own volition. Do not write the headlines. I cannot be more clear here. We're not rallying around this coach. It's either Keenan Allen or the all-time...

of the NFL, Mercedes Lewis. Oh, wow. He's there? Yeah. Really? 40 years old. Wow. A lot of coaches, a lot of games. That's the problem is that people say, what are you doing here? Mikey, I want to be clear on what you're saying. But he's seen a lot. But Keenan Allen has taken several trips around the block, right? Are you saying DJ Moore? Several trips around the block. He's been there and back. Right, and back. DJ Moore is still halfway around the block. He hasn't made a full circle. DJ Moore is still walking around the block. He's still finding his first time around the block. He'll get there. He'll get there. He's good enough to get

But DJ Moore has the big contract. Big contract carries weight. Yeah, but I'm with Mikey on this. It's all about what you've seen. And Keenan Allen has seen stuff. Jordan Addison, pretty good, huh? Jordan Addison, yes. He's pretty good. And by the way. Wow, what a transition that was. Well, no, same game. Good for you, Billy. Same game. Same game. I know, but I was talking about guys going around the block. Jordan Addison, yes, great game. Also, one of the best onside kick recoveries I've ever seen. Yep.

There's too much emphasis on special teams. I mean, by the way, I was thinking before I thought announcing the onside kick, even though, you know, the onside kick is coming, announcing the onside kick kind of takes some of the fun away from the onside kick, right? No, no, still very fun. Onside kicks are still very fun. We can announce better. We lose the surprise one. We lose the surprise Super Bowl. I don't care. Peyton.

You lose that one. The one time it happened. But now if you know it's coming and you're not prepared, oh my God. I love an onside kick just to see now how they're placing the ball. Like, just lay it on its side. Who knows what that ball's going to do? The kicker has to get wacky. Kick it into the ground, lay it on the side. Who knows what we're going to do here. All right. Billy told me to hold my horses on Indiana. I did. We do not ignore college football here on God Bless Football. Lucy joins us next.

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We do not ignore college football here on God bless football. Lucy's going to join us in just a second. She was at Harvard Yale over the weekend. She's going to Ohio state, Michigan this weekend. She's going from the game to the game. They have no business calling that the game Harvard Yale. Billy, what were you saying about flags before we started here though? No, I've just, I found out where Lucy's going this weekend and I, I view Lucy as a college football expert. So I figured she knows like the ins and the outs of everything. So like,

I'll throw questions at her, and she usually has an answer because I view her as a historian of sorts. Right, someone who knows everything, yes. Lucy, is that fair to call you a college football historian? No, I'm 26 years old. Okay, well, I mean, I feel like you could. What do you think is the youngest historian of anything in the world? Well, it would be Lucy. 26 years old, college football, exactly. Yes, historian. No, when do you get your PhD? How many years does that take? Okay, so if you get a bachelor's degree...

Oh, good. Within four years, you're 22, right? But like if you're like a nerd with some AP credits, you could probably get it done in like two years, maybe like a bachelor's degree. So it may be like a young 20 years old and then you could get like a master's. And what does that take? Why did Lucy ask you and why are we listening to you like you're some sort of expert in this field?

I spent a lot of time in college. Why are you acting like the historians of historians? I'm just asking a question. Anyways, the point is we found out where she was going. So like I've always been fascinated. The horseshoe just has this giant flagpole behind one of the end zones. Yes. And I was thinking about it this weekend because I was watching and I was like,

I wonder if they, like, because you don't see the top of the flagpole. You just see the base, and it's so out of place. And I'm like, do they take down the flag during the game? That wouldn't make any sense, right? So, like, no, the flag is flying during the game. But then I thought that it was in the formally open end of the horseshoe. But no, it's in the closed end. So I was asking if she knew. She didn't even know the flagpole was there. So I'm not, you know, I don't want to say maybe ask someone while you're over there. But maybe we could possibly get to the bottom of it. But you do whatever you're going to do. Anyways. Yeah.

Happy Thanksgiving, by the way. So you were surprised the college football historian at the age of 26. And by the way, it takes up to eight years to get a Ph.D. You two up to eight years, usually four to six somewhere. Now I'm the expert. Yeah. But also like it depends on the it depends on the science that you're getting it in. Right. What you're practicing. Yes. Like college football history, college football history probably is not the same as like. Yeah. You know, I understand. Lucy, how was Harvard and Yale? How was that game?

It was fun. It was definitely weird. Like, it's just a different sort of environment, but it was a really good time. I learned a lot. Did you know whoever wins storms the field every year? So all the Yale students stormed the field after winning that game. Wow. Yeah, it was a good time. I will say Yale students are generally nicer than Harvard students.

But there were some, everyone we talked to was super, super friendly. Like some of the nicest students we've ever talked to, but we have never gotten more. No, we don't want to be on camera and speak to you. We did at Harvard. They have no interest in that. Hold on a second. I thought they're solving important issues up there. I thought army Navy last year was the worst.

Yeah, this one's up there. I would put them around the same. We were just like, hey, you want to talk to us? And it was immediately like, no. Right. Why is it called The Game? I mean, do you know? Historian? I think...

From what I learned while I was there, this is the only game that at least Harvard students go to. It's the only game that people care about. And so it like sells out. It's a very big deal. It's like 140 straight years of playing it. Also, like the Ivy League can't compete in the FCS.

So like this is, in a sense, sort of like their championship game because it's the only game that really matters. So I will say this. I feel like I insulted Lucy by calling her a historian. Like she assumed this was something for like elderly people, which is not what I intended to do. It's usually reserved for older people. It was meant as a compliment as someone with a lot of a wealth of knowledge. It's for people who have been around the block. Yeah. So I would also say because you then ask something in a very... It's for Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen.

You ask in a very condescending fashion. You said historian, and I will say this. Historians are always learning. Historians always have more information to learn. They're never done learning. Yes. So I feel like, how about this? You know how you can go to school and you can be pre-med or whatever? Maybe Lucy is pre-historian at the moment. You know what I mean? She's getting there. She's working her way? Yeah, pre-historian. Okay.

She's got more field experience than most people. Has it ever dawned on you that Lucy doesn't want to be a historian? Why wouldn't you want to be a historian? Because she's 26. I'd love to be a historian on anything. That's why she's prehistory right now. Right. Okay. Anyways, Lucy, you mentioned storming the field. Yeah. I love field storming. You do. Big fan. You have been on the record saying you love field storming.

Yeah, but it's necessary. Well, no, Lucy, not you. Oh, okay. Sorry. So I feel like this is a bad week for the future of field stormings. We had multiple field storming incidents that went awry. And I feel like this may be setting a bad precedent moving forward. Like there are sanctions that can be levied for field storming and it never deters anyone. But I wonder now after two bad ones this weekend, if we're going to up the situation now. Hmm.

I wouldn't say that's going to happen. The whole thing that happened with Arizona State, I don't think that the chaotic nature of that one was incredibly intense. But I do believe there have been things like that that

happened before. I think I was at a game, it was Clemson, and Clemson storms the field after every single game. It's like their tradition where the same sort of thing happened. Obviously, it's a very different situation because Clemson's prepared for them to storm the field every single game. But that is not the first time that fans have stormed the field and there has been extra time on the clock. I think it was one of the more dramatic times with Kenny Dillingham and his wife there, just like,

screaming at the refs and all this stuff happening. I don't think there's anything they can do that will ever officially eliminate storm feeling or like storming the field because they're college kids and they're going to do what they want and they don't really care. So like, yes, that was probably not good, but honestly more funny than anything. I think that storm fielding will live on.

I agree. Well, yeah, you're trying to abolish it. It seems. No, I'm not. I was feeling, I was feeling not great about it, but the story has spoken and now it is. All right. Fine. Move on. Alabama's getting what? $300,000. Yeah.

I have some Lucy or Goosey for you. I know you're going to Ohio State, Michigan. We'll talk about that after we get through some of these. But Lucy or Goosey, this is the big question from the weekend. Interested in what you're going to say here. Did Indiana do enough for the committee to put them in the playoff? I am going to say Goosey, but with an asterisk because I don't think Indiana did enough for

We all watched that game. Wish it went a different way. First quarter was fun. Everything else was really, really bad. There just is a talent gap between Ohio State and everybody else. And you saw that with Indiana. I think it's more important what happened after the Indiana game. Ole Miss losing at Florida State. Alabama losing at Oklahoma. BYU losing at Arizona State. Like, there were just losses left and right. Colorado losing to Kansas. Like,

everything is different now. No teams had better weekend than Georgia and Tennessee because they feel pretty confident that they're going to make the playoff at this point. But Alabama picking up a third loss is crazy. Ole Miss picking up a third loss is crazy. The SEC did a lot of crazy stuff this weekend. Texas A&M losing. All of

that helps Indiana significantly. Now, did Indiana have a pretty bad game against Ohio State? Absolutely. But they, the rest of their body of work, I know they don't have a really big signature win, is impressive. So, I,

I don't know what's going to happen. I think Indiana probably deserves to be in the playoff at this point. You're an 11-win team, and you can make similar arguments for Notre Dame, for Texas. Notre Dame has a great win against A&M, but that one doesn't look as good right now. Texas' only win is against Michigan. That's the same thing for Indiana. Indiana is just a team that people are already predestined to be like, you shouldn't be here. So...

I think they're going to be in. I don't think they did enough to help that, but I think everybody else did. Are you expecting the committee to make some tweaks to how we're doing this next year?

Absolutely. I expect there to be tweaks across the board, not even just the college football playoff committee. I don't know how anybody gets in a conference championship. I have no clue. Right. And I keep trying to learn and it doesn't make any sense. They're just picking. They're just choosing. Right. Like you can choose to put Purdue in the conference championship if you want to. Like, I don't understand how anything's happening. They're going to have to make some changes because everybody,

as much as I have loved this crazy year and as much as I love the idea of an Indiana making the playoff, watching all these upsets yesterday, watching all this happened, all I could think of, man, this would be much better if there were six teams, eight teams, even four teams. Because what Indiana probably, hopefully will make the playoff and Ohio State definitely will as well. They're,

We saw that there's an incredible talent gap between those two. And there's an incredible talent gap between the top four teams in the country and everybody else. So I think it's just a little, they're not going to change it. They're probably going to expand it more. It's going to be Mike Leach's 64-team playoff. But they're going to have to change the way that they decide teams, the metrics they use, how they explain it to us. This is definitely a trial run.

Lucy, do you think the talent gap will shrink over time now that more teams are getting in? So like more players might be like, you know what? I will go to Indiana because they do have a shot. Mm-hmm.

I wouldn't – I do think the talent gap will shrink in some ways, but I don't actually think it's because of that. I think it's all NIL-based, where you can go make money at Ohio State, but now Indiana probably has some donors who really want to put some money behind that football team, and that's what's going to get players to go to a different school. I think the talent gap will always be there. Ohio State's roster is like $20 million. Like, it's insane. I think it's way more than that, actually. But –

I think it'll all, I think there's always going to be some level of talent gap. Georgia's always going to have more talent. Ohio State's always going to have more talent. Texas is always going to have more talent. But NIL will be the real factor that's going to really sort of, not even the playing field, but make it a little more competitive at the, not elite level, but the great level.

Lucy, I think what you'll have is more teams, teams that, you know, don't usually have a quarterback. More teams will have a good quarterback. And if you have a good quarterback, then you have a chance. Meaning, you know, Alabama at times or Georgia, they'll have two, three. Ohio State's a perfect example. We'll have two or three quarterbacks and the guy who's starting will stay. And the guy who's second or third on the depth chart will go somewhere else and see if he can prove himself there. Right.

No, I agree. And I would say you've even sort of seen that before this whole new playoff era. I mean, Justin Fields started at Georgia and then went to Ohio State. Quinn Ewer started at Ohio State and now is at Texas. I think that the days of backup quarterbacks in college football are long over, and I don't think they're coming back. But I do think you're not going to see these teams that have such stacked quarterback rooms anymore because you can go to Penn State and make the playoff. Hell, you could potentially go to...

Indiana and make the playoffs. So there's a lot of room for players to sort of move around. But I think more of it is money-based than playoff-based. Billy, you made a sound there. But all I'm saying is quarterbacks just want a platform. If they win a national championship, great. They just want a platform to show the NFL scouts, hey, I can play. That's it. They just want an opportunity.

I was just Penn State. I'm sorry. Lucy or Goosey, we're six days out here, okay, from the game, the actual game, Ohio State-Michigan. Lucy or Goosey, six days out. Are you already nervous for Ryan Day?

I'm going to go Goosey, which is a shocking answer for me. Michigan's offense is a level of anemic that only I would be familiar with. And I know I understand how bad that truly is. So I'm not going into this game with any hope for Michigan. OK, Lucy or Goosey, the Big 12 is an absolute mess.

Oh, my God. Lucy, Lucy, Lucy. It's on fire. Yes. There are four teams. There's a four-way tie for first right now. And I believe Iowa State has not played any of the other teams that are tied up top. I believe that Colorado—I don't know if Colorado's at the top anymore. I don't know if they've played anybody else. It is a mess. It is—

No one knows. Arizona State might make the championship. Iowa State might make the championship. I think BYU is still in the running, potentially. The only one who's for sure not going is Oklahoma State. They are for sure not making it. It is so confusing. That conference took everything from the Pac-12. They took all the teams, and they took all the weirdness.

You're right. I don't know what to do about the college football playoff, but it is confusing. I have no idea. She just said Arizona State, and I just realized Arizona State's in the Big 12. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. I want everyone to just listen to this for a second, what I'm about to say, because I'm not lying. I'm telling you the truth. Okay. Arizona State could have a first-round bye in the college football playoff. Ha ha ha!

That's great. That's like a, that is a real legit possibility right now. Ah, the Sun Devils. It's crazy. I haven't been this good since Jake Plummer. I mean, it's unbelievable. Insane. Lucy or Goosey, Notre Dame is the most complete team in the country. I,

I'm going to go goosey. I think it's tough to watch what Ohio State did this weekend and say that there's a team better than them. I think Oregon is really, really good. Notre Dame is a very good football team that's weird enough flying under the radar. That's because they really haven't had...

anything on their schedule since Texas A&M. And I know you can say that Army and Navy are better than they'd normally be, but they're not close to Notre Dame's level. They're a very good football team right now. Riley Leonard is playing really, really well, but I don't believe that they're the most complete team in the country. All right, two more. We'll get you out of here. Lucy or Goosey, Syracuse will upset Miami.

I'm going to go goosey, but not with a ton of confidence. The first half of that Wake Forest game, if you even keep it close against Wake Forest, counts as a loss in my opinion. Obviously, Miami pulled away, did the sort of Miami thing. They're a very hard team to predict, but obviously,

I think that Cam Ward is good enough to beat anybody. And I believe with that, Miami will play SMU in the ACC championship, which SMU has locked up their spot in the ACC championship. What a weird sentence to say. So weird. Lucy or Goosey, Texas A&M, who lost over the weekend, will beat Texas.

I'm going to go goosey on this one. I think them losing to Auburn really does hurt Texas's case. Mike Elko was probably a little too cutesy with it this week, making jokes about how he was already overlooking Auburn to Texas, which you probably shouldn't have done. But losses to teams that are that bad, which Auburn is a bad football team, big wake-up call.

I do think it helps A&M's case. It's also at home. It's in College Station. It helps A&M's case. But this is Texas' real sort of moment here. I think they secure a spot in the SEC Championship with a win. Once again, I don't know. I really don't. But Texas needs that signature win. They don't really have it right now, and this is kind of the chance to get it. Also, this is a very interesting rivalry. There's a lot of hate

between these two teams and they have not played in a long time. So I'm going with Texas, but I don't say that with a ton of confidence. All right. You're headed to Columbus, Ohio this weekend. First time there, Ohio state, right? First time at going to a game at the shoe. I have been to Columbus before. Nice town.

Yeah. Just on vacation? Yeah. Why'd you go there? Iowa was playing in the NCAA tournament, and it was a host round. Ah, okay. Yes. It is a nice town. You're going to find out about the flag for Billy, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's top of my list of all the work I have to do. It's overrated, Columbus. I got to be honest. Oh, it is. I mean. I had fun. Yeah. Listen. Why are you taking shots at Columbus?

Well, because someone took shots at me. Literal shots. Someone shot at you. At Columbus? They shot up my hotel. Where did you stay? Yes, I stayed at a nice hotel and there were gunshots. And I woke up the next morning, all the streets were closed off. I don't want to alarm you. I don't believe for a second someone shot.

Where did you stay? They shot up my hotel. They shot up your hotel. I stayed right on that main street where all the cool bars are. It's a very nice area. I love the area. I don't love the guns. I know Ohio State is in Columbus, but it's kind of separate. You stay in hotels where people overdose. They don't get murdered. I'm telling you what happened when I was there. I mean, look it up. He stays at a tax evasion hotel. I've been around the block.

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We we've had a lot of fun in this episode before. I've had a lot of fun anyway. I don't know about you guys. I have. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Now, something that we haven't done there, there are some staples that we haven't done this season yet. We still haven't done our BCS. And I feel like it's almost time to get our first BCS rankings out there.

Okay. You know what I mean? Yes, of course. And honestly, the way the season's gone, we would have been primed for lots of movement on the BCS this year. Would have been a great year for the BCS. People are clamoring for the BCS. It was a simpler time. This is what I'm going to tell you, and I don't mean to point the finger. Okay, but you're going to point the finger. Mike Golick, this is on you. Wow. Because you're not receptive of the BCS, and you do not respect. Yep.

Yes. I was going to say you don't respect our commission, but it really is us. You don't respect us. He doesn't. And as a result, the listeners are suffering. So the BCS is coming back, Jack, whether you like it or not. Wow. Wow. You know what? You know what? I'm going to go a step further on that goal. You laughed. You laughed at my what if this week. And I told you, Mike, what happens if Florida beats Ole Miss, Oklahoma beats Bama, and A&M loses to Auburn? He goes...

That's not going to happen. And you know what happens? All of it. All of it happens. All of it. All of it. Do you, do you feel what Billy feels that might go like? Well, nice to us while a friend to us, almost like a dad figure to us. Do you feel like he doesn't respect us at all?

No, I don't think he respects us all. He doesn't. It makes me wonder, honestly, and this is going to sound weird, but it makes me wonder if something happens, there's been a massive cover-up, he has court-ordered community service, and somehow he talked his parole officer into letting this count in his community service. Because if you notice, he's never really in a rush to get out. He'll talk to us as long as we want.

Juan. I feel like it's just a situation. And I know you guys are not paying him. So I feel like it's a situation where like, he's just milking the clock and he has a number that he's trying to get to. And somehow this has just been like covered up on the down low. No one knows what's going on, but he's kind of just joining us because he's been almost like,

I don't want a sentence to join us. But yeah, there's a reason he's joining us because he likes kind of talking to us maybe, but not enough to even indulge us in our BCS. He doesn't respect a single thing. He joins us because he's a nice man. He's probably the nicest man I've ever met. Or he wants to see nice community services. Or.

Or because he's doing community service, Billy's right. Is he asking you to sign a timesheet? No. Because that's a big giveaway. He did ask me one time. He did ask me one time. He said, like, hey, can you send my hours over? Punch in, punch out. And I was like, punch in, punch out. Sure, don't worry about it. Yeah. That started all out. He's always there for us, though. He's just, you know.

He doesn't care what it is we have to say. What I do a couple of times a year, and I haven't done it this year, because he doesn't respect anything we have to say. Correct. I'll bring on a Tony Buscelli. Yeah. I'll bring on a Dwight Freeney. Yeah. I'll bring on, and it's a totally different Golic. He's engaged. He lights up. Well, he's talking to someone who's had their hand in the dirt. We haven't. I mean, that's it. Well. That's what it boils down to with Mike. Absolutely.

My hand was in the dirt. I mean, you know, in high school. Yeah, same. Eighth grade. What's the difference? It's been a minute for me. Here's the thing. Cooper Manning got injured, right? And because an injury ended his career, I'm sure that Mike...

respects Cooper Manning much more than me. Now, my injury was I just wasn't growing. Sure. And they said, you know what? At 5'3", 95 pounds, football's not for you, Billy. And they weren't wrong. I would have gotten seriously hurt if I continued playing. Yeah, but in Cooper's case... My body gave up by not starting. Yeah, I had an injury too. It was a lack of talent.

was my injury. Right. In Cooper's case, I think that injury prevented him from being the greatest Manning of all time. Yeah, but I was pre-injury. Big list. Big list. No, but everyone says he was the most... The entire family says Coop was the most athletic of all of us. I don't know. Yeah, but do they say that? He does. He's never had a shot. Thank you. Thank you, Mikey. Give him this one. Mikey, I get to... Yeah, two Hall of Fame brothers. Shannon Sharp...

I think it's more like, you know, say it. No, but it's different when your brother's playing when Super Bowls, your other brother, other brother never gets the opportunity to. That's why they're. That's why. Sterling, we have the evidence. We can see it. That's the life. Yeah.

So anyways, I feel like Mike doesn't respect me because I made the difficult decision to give up on the game before I got seriously injured. Right. Yeah. Yes. So I made probably the prudent decision. You know, what's funny about all of this is even Mike, when he was on with us last week, he actually brought up the BCS. Yeah. He did. Yes. He wants it.

He does. Anyways, the point is, and we're not doing the BCS now, but the point is we've been missing out on some of our more famous segments and another one that we've been missing out on. And I feel like today's a good day to do it if the season ended today. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Wow. You haven't done that. College or NFL? I think NFL. Actually, Mike's right. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. We can actually do if the season ended today after the rankings, if you guys would like to do that. But Mikey, are you thinking because you were the one clamoring for this? Are you thinking about an NFL if the season ended today? Is that what we're doing here? I was just looking at some of the standings and I thought, you know, if the season ended today and then it hit me like we haven't done it. Right. Don't if the season ended today. Well, did you have anything that stuck out on you or you want me to present some scenarios or what do you want to do? I, I,

I mean, if the season ended today, the Packers at eight and three are the sixth seed. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Wow. I don't think that's how you play if the season ended today. Maybe we're rusty. We got to, you know, we got to dust off. Yeah, that's right. Let's get back into it. Okay, well, teach us. Right. Well, you have to do it by playoff match, you know, matchups. Okay, show us. How do you do it? Of course. Well, who's the seventh seed in the AFC right now? Broncos. The Broncos are the seventh seed. Mm-hmm. Okay. They would play the Bills. Okay. In Buffalo.

If the season ended today, would you give the Broncos a chance against the Bills in Buffalo? Not a single one. Really? Mikey A is saying yes. Really? Absolutely. Right. How about this? If the season ended today, would Saquon Barkley be the NFL MVP? Huh? Bo Nix was good again. I know he was. Offensive player of the year. Yeah, I don't think. If the season ended today, who would be the MVP?

So I think it has to be Josh Allen, but a lot of people this morning are saying Saquon Barkley, and it's not Saquon Barkley. Well, I mean, he had another career game yesterday. Listen to me. It's never a running back, okay? He's been so good this year. He's been great.

He hasn't been good. He has been great. But the most important position in that sport is quarterback, and therefore a quarterback should always win the MVP. I don't care what anyone says. Let's be very... But what about Derrick Henry? Also been great. Very similar numbers. We've talked about this. This is why the Offensive Player of the Year exists. So they have to give it to a quarterback every year. Guys, I want to get out on the front end of this and say, friend of the show, Brian Dable. Yes. Friend of the show,

Joe Shane. Yeah. They're both done. Right. Like they, like it's not even releasing Daniel Jones. So the owner said they're safe. Both of them. Yeah. That's what you say. No, I understand that you have, you don't have any reason to believe him. I'm just telling you what he said. They're not, they're not safe. I'm telling you the owner says they're safe. Billy goes saying they're not safe. That doesn't mean they're going to get fired. They're not safe. Okay. And I'm not even sure if it's the Daniel Jones of it. Right. Saquon Barkley may get them fired.

The fact that you let that guy go, he went to Philadelphia, it's a bad move. But if the Giants, to our point about MVP, if the Giants had Saquon Barkley, they wouldn't be any better off. They wouldn't be. At all? Maybe a game? Neither would Saquon, to be honest. Right.

I mean, maybe a game. This is an Eagles team. I think the only thing that would be worse would be the Eagles. I think that's the only difference. The Eagles wouldn't be as good. You don't think that the Giants would be any better? Maybe a game better? This is an Eagles team that made it to the Super Bowl with Miles Sanders, who's in Carolina right now doing nothing. And can't get on the field. This is an Eagles team who made it to the playoffs the last three years without Saquon Barkley. Then I think that you guys have just made the argument as to why Saquon Barkley is not the MVP. Check me out.

Well, unlike Golan, you respect our opinions. No, no, not at all. But OK, if you want it, by the way, you know how we say the Ravens always have one of those losses, especially in the playoffs. Yeah. And the Ravens, for some reason, can't beat the Steelers. Right. Well, if the season ended today, Ravens at Steelers. Wow. That was a good loss for the Steelers against the Browns. A bad win for the Browns and a great loss for the Steelers. It allows Tomlin to reset.

It does. It just allows for a reset. He can work for the next 10 days like crazy because it's a humbling loss. And no one loves a humbling loss more so than Mike Tomlin. Really? Yes. He's looking for a humbling loss. He loves opportunities to humble his team. Yes. To bring them back down to earth, Billy. To remind them they're not as good as they thought they were. That we still have work to do. That we have more blades of grass to defend. Yes. Mike Tomlin loves that. Yes. Okay. He does.

Season ended today. Mike Tomlin, coach of the year? Probably Dan Campbell. Really? Yeah. They need a loss. They do. I'm telling you right now. In the worst way, they need a loss. And if someone's going to get injured for three weeks, it should be this weekend. You're just advising all NFL players, injure yourself this weekend if you're going to have a three-week injury? NFL players on contending teams, yes. If you're going to get hurt for three weeks, do it this weekend. Okay. All right. Let me write that down. The BBB is coming up next.

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We'll get to the BBBs here in just a minute. Ravens and Chargers. Nice little Monday night game tonight. I think the Ravens need the game more. I took the Chargers on Stu, you gots, Billy. And I'm having a season right now, four and two again. But the Ravens need this game. They need it worse than the Chargers do. So anyway, we'll get to the BBBs here in just a second. You guys were asking me about the Jets during the break here. What is going on with the New York Jets? There was a report over the weekend that I didn't see.

Did you not see it? Aren't you a Jets fan? How do you not see these reports come out? I just assume you read my articles every day. Listen, I'm sorry. My apologies. But I decided that I would like to have a stress-free weekend and not think about the Jets, not read about the Jets, not watch the Jets. Just watch all their former players around the NFL excel in different places. I'm happy for Sam Darnold. Congratulations. Gino Smith, you're...

You too. What happened? Do you know Joe Douglas was fired? Well, yes, that I know. Okay, I'm trying to backtrack and figure out where we are. That's where I left off. Joe Douglas was fired. Joe Douglas was fired. Do you know that they have no intention of bringing Aaron Rodgers back next year? I do know that. Yes, I heard that. Do you know that Aaron Rodgers has said that he's not retiring? He wants to come back next year. Okay, great. We'll see who's interested in taking Aaron Rodgers. Probably San Francisco would be my guess.

Why would San Francisco take him? I just think that's a place he's it's where he's from. It's a place he's always wanted to go. And him and Kyle Shanahan have a good relationship. Why would you take him over Brock Purdy? I don't know. I'm just guessing, Billy. I mean, they had Brandon Allen play yesterday and he was he was terrible. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So you kind of saw Brock Purdy. Maybe Brock Purdy works here. So, Mikey, are you living with that fear that Aaron goes elsewhere next year and that team's going to get a great Aaron Rodgers and we missed out on two years of Aaron Rodgers or you think he's done?

Oh, no, I've accepted that as actually going to happen. That's going to happen. He's going to go to a place like Vegas that needs a quarterback, and all of a sudden you're going to look up and be like, oh, man, Vegas is a juggernaut. How the hell did they get this? Oh, because Aaron Rodgers is going to play like the old Aaron Rodgers just to rub it in our face. And, yeah, that's what we're looking at. He's got one MVP season left in him, and it's not for us. He does not have an MVP season. He does not.

Daniel Jones more likely to have MVP season. Guys, how many times? 100%. More likely than Aaron Rodgers. This is going to be Favre in Minnesota. This is crazy. He was just ridiculous. Mikey, they don't under, it doesn't matter how we try to explain how this thing works to them to not get. They don't understand. When we get Aaron Rodgers, he tears his Achilles in four snaps. We don't understand. And when we give up, yeah, you,

You do not understand. The team that had Dante Culpepper rushing into an end zone, pointing at his knee, doesn't understand? I spent my day watching two former Jet quarterbacks excel in other places.

Anyway, we're fighting. I love you. It's Thanksgiving week. What are we doing? Aaron Rodgers is... If anybody's going to break this Jets curse for you guys, it's Aaron Rodgers. No! I really, really wonder what team would take him on. By the way, in fantasy, I was talking about how great I was going to do this week. I finished, I think, like four spots from the bottom in our fantasy. Way to go. I thought it was your week. Here's the thing.

It's not on me. And I don't want to be the guy that points fingers at his players. It's not on me. My players are not performing. That's simply it. There's nothing else that I can say. They're not performing to the level that I need them to perform to. And I feel like we're going to have a nice, long, awkward Thanksgiving meal because next week's my week.

Mark my words. Yeah, awkward Thanksgiving meal with a team because you get a new team every week, you know? They're all coming. Every single one of them that has let me down this season is coming. Presented by Spearing Off the World's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. That's our fantasy update. Here we go. Our BBBBBBs. Guys...

I have breaking news that I can't deliver to you yet, but it's very exciting, and you're going to know more about this next week. Here's my first pick of the week because we're running short on time here. Wow, the rare breaking news that you can't deliver. Go ahead. It's exciting news. You're going to find out more. It's not even broken yet. Next week, Billy's Big Board Bets brought to you by Still Waiting on a Sponsor. So, first pick, Cameron Dicker, over one and a half field goals tonight. All right, Dicker the kicker. I love it. Dicker the kicker. Seems like a lock, one and a half field goals.

Okay, that is the first big board bet. What's your record here, big board bets for the year? So I had an off week last week. I went one and two for the first time since week one, but I'm 30 and 16 on the season. Still doing pretty good. You were playing hurt, though. You were playing hurt. I really was not doing well last week. I think everybody saw it, and it affected me, but that's fine. No excuses. We're just going to keep moving.

Moving on. All right. I would say this show in general has done very good in terms of at least trying to help you make some money here. Billy's been good. I've been good with still you got. You have a second pick here for BBB. All right. This is my fun one today.

Okay. A funsy. This is my fun one. All right. That we can all watch together and we'll all celebrate when it happens. All right. Derek Henry's long rush of the night will be over 16 and a half yards. Okay. Yes. He has done it every week except two weeks. One of them was week one against the Chiefs. The other one was in game against the Bengals. Every other time he's had a rush where his long was over 16 and a half yards. Okay. That's the fun one. That's the fun one because we can watch it together and as soon as it happens, you go, yeah.

All right. I did it. There it is. Do we call each other? It could happen on any play. Do we text each other? Why don't we text each other? What do we do? We can text each other, but this is more for the fans to enjoy with us. And now, finally. How do you spell that? This week, past couple weeks, we've been betting the under. Yes. It has been so depressing. No one likes under. And we're in a festive mood. Thanksgiving week. Holiday's right around the corner. Yes. We're going to go over 50 and a half points today. Wow.

I like it. Over. We're hoping for points. We're hoping for an offensive outburst this week. You would think you would get that with Lamar Jackson and Justin Herbert, but we're hoping. Who the hell knows in this league? Who knows? Three nothing at half. God, I can't do another three nothing at half. God bless football. Enough specialties. In order to have a nightcap, you need to have a night first. Make good on some bets. Then play.

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