#BecauseMiami: We Need to Talk
2024/11/11
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
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Billy Corben
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Cintia de Leon
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Roy Bellamy
Billy Corben：作为长期以来以无党派身份投票的选民，我关注的是原则而非政党。我经常投票支持社会公平，即使这与我自身利益相悖。我对2024年大选的结果感到失望，认为美国已转变为公开的专制和寡头政治国家，这将改变其在世界上的地位。佛罗里达州的民主制度存在缺陷，需要超级多数才能通过宪法修正案，导致许多民意无法得到体现。民主党在这次选举中犯了错误，例如提名错误的候选人以及竞选策略失误，导致最终失败。我认为民主党在扩大投票权方面的策略可能是错误的，因为这可能导致更多对民主党不利的选民参与投票。
Roy Bellamy：我对选举结果感到失望，尤其担心其对女儿未来的影响。我认为美国是一个比种族主义更严重的厌女症国家，这体现在女性总统候选人屡屡落败的事实上。关于堕胎的讨论主要集中在女性的性行为上，而不是医疗保健问题上，而这正是白人男性在操纵。尽管对未来感到悲观，但我仍然抱有一线希望，并指出女性之间缺乏团结。
Cintia de Leon：我对选举结果不感到惊讶，但仍然感到愤怒，并对一些选民的投票行为感到不解。许多选民的投票是基于宗教信仰而非理性思考，并且缺乏充分的信息。许多关于堕胎的讨论是基于宗教信仰而非医疗保健，这导致了不公平的结果。我认为女性在这个国家的地位低于男性，并且我们的身体自主权受到了限制。
Billy Corben: I've never voted for a person or a party. I always vote for a principle...My concern was for other people...I often voted against my own best interests...I believed that paying more of my fair share meant providing a safety net...But these states are not united...The truth is Trump's policies...they're going to predominantly harm the working class...The changes to women's rights are going to affect my family because as a white man in America of some means, I'll be able to provide for them because this doesn't apply to us...We're going to be led by a white Christian nationalist group now...We don't embrace competence and expertise and intellect and courtesy and empathy, we embrace autocracy and we embrace oligarchy...Does this mean what comes next will be worse or better? I don't know...This is what we want. This is the will of the people. The politicians don't do it. And then we just reelect them...The abortion rights amendment in Florida failed with a higher percentage than in every other state in which it succeeded...Kamala Harris was the wrong person. Joe Biden stayed in the race far too long. The Democrats f***ed this up...I'm saying maybe we shouldn't make it easier for more people to vote...I'm a white man in America.
Roy Bellamy: Seeing what happened on Tuesday, you know, not exactly the best result...I mean, we are a far more, I think, misogynist country than we are a racist country...The country is not interested in electing a woman president and even less interested in electing a female minority president...My people believe in Abortion, it's not a matter of believing in abortion. It's about believing in the health and safety of the woman...And if you fail to provide not just women, but their husbands with this health care, then you cannot have families who can procreate...It's like Bible fan fiction...You're goddamn right, Meatball. That shiny beacon on the hill, you know, with climate change and everything, that hill is getting flooded.
Cintia de Leon: The one thing that hit home for me...was that there's a super need now more than ever to separate church and state...religious beliefs were the top priority when certain folks went out to vote...It seems like the freedom of religion thing is a misnomer...they also didn't have all the information...the entire conversation around abortion is about female promiscuity instead of health care...It's not mine anymore...How does it feel to be a little less than human in this country?
Deep Dive
The panel discusses their voting history and principles, reflecting on how their empathy often led them to vote against their own interests. They express concern for the welfare of others and the potential impact of Trump's policies on the working class.
- Panelists voted based on principles rather than party or person.
- Concerns about Trump's policies harming the working class.
- Empathy as a driving factor in voting decisions.
Shownotes Transcript