Trump’s Controversial Cabinet Picks
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several is everyone in your family OK with that? Or are they like happy to see you go in the we'll miss you for real way but like .

you should go that that perfectly described. It's like, so when are you leaving again? I mean, we will miss you when you leaving.

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without you. I often joke about my partners constantly talking about what i'm gone. We call IT loss life after or Scott and the money and who who they're going to you have relationships with and what they going to do.

I mean, and unfortunately speaks about IT with a little much optimism. But in back to me, I met the thing called bah summit. Have you heard of this time? no.

IT sounds like something i'd like to be invited to maybe next year.

if you're interested. I was going to bring, I was gna bring all of the team. So this is, let's back up.

So sum IT is a group. Guys created this, this community initially, they bought some land on a mountain summer. They must be rich kids anyways.

And then that they call IT learning man. During the dads had talks, and at night everyone does drugs and listens to world class is. And it's got kind of a very hip genoa.

But successful oic people starting vertical farming startups are really focused on their sleep or you know talking about why it's important to be Polly as they explore T H C infused muff s. It's very kind of not describe IT. But I spoke to two years ago, they did somebody to see, which is they take over this virgin crucial.

yeah. The thing I first noticed is that no one is drinking. Everyone's doing so aside in M, D, A, no one is actually drinking. So not really my people, but it's it's really interesting concept. They do a really nice job, and I really had a good time.

So they said we wanted come back and I said, well, and if you've heard of kind of a big deal, I charged a lot of money and they said, we will let you bring some people with you so I was going to bring the team but then I like the team, doesn't need to see me get this fucked up. So I brought a much of my college buddies from um from my sangsues. Are I just enough for that? Today we're talking about trm controversial cabinet pigs, republicans gained control of the house and our predictions for the week.

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There you go. Why not? Okay, moving on, let's go to trumps cabinet picks for ambit seem like we'd see kind of the usual suspects, people, including senator marco rubio, and at least to find out.

But then came kind of a the the the free gift or the free toaster as a parting gift if toaster is fuck increase ing unqualified fox news host pete heg set does no business make secretary defense okay, let's remove on tosi gathered as directive national offence well, he did serve a Maggies returning general. That's my favorite. That's my favorite.

If you're really gonna dancing with the stars, batch crazy, go all in. And then arva junior leading health and human services, which I I actually find out strange enough on that most disturbing. So to the extent you can talk about either pete or tulsa for defensive national intelligence.

yeah so I want to to be clear that just because I get along with Peter, he's always been lovely to mean he doesn't necessarily mean that I think he should be out of the department of defence, whatever. Seen three million people and having, you know, managing a unit. And I ve been bothered by how people have been talking about him and not even discussing his service, which was outstanding.

So two decades as an inti officer in the arming national guardias two Brown stars, he did three tours, one in guantanamo bay, one in iraq, one in afghanistan. He also has the national defense service metal and the expert infantry man and combat infantry man badgers. So like he's a real dude.

And i've seen a lot of feedback from people who have served, not like forest star generals, but like actual boots on the ground, people who are really excited at the prospect of having someone with that kind of perspective do this job. And that's where I think the most interesting argument for pete comes in that like he could be supported by people who have the loyd Austin experience, lets say um but bring more of that on the ground perspective. Now it's a little bit more complicated than that.

So um over the years and he's had a good relationship with president trump who considered to him for something in twenty sixteen. And I honestly thought that he was going to get veterans affairs this time around and that made a lot of sense to me. He's LED two veterans advocate organizations in the past.

He cares deeply about veterans. And so that's where I thought he was going to land. And coming out at defense was kind of crazy.

But there are these things that stick out, like he lobby trump to harden several service members accused of war crimes. And I think two of them were parted and they did bad things. IT looks like there is a sexual assault issue that's going to come out.

And the democrats are considering whether they want to try to make this part of the confirmation process. I imagine that they will and I don't know it's it's a weird thing because we all sign morality causes right when we go and work somewhere. And that seems like something that would be a violation of IT, especially when you're talking about leading three million people and being in charge of the pentagon.

So I am conflicted because I think that there is interesting perspective. I'm not sure if he's right that women should serving combat roles. That's like one of the main things that he argues and that the woke fiction of the army is making us flat footed. But I do think having a different kind of experience is is an interesting faster of the nomination. What do you think .

I agree with you? You know he's he's got outstanding chops in terms of his commitment to the country in the service. The question is, does he have kind of the gravitates or experience outside of management? I don't know this kind of more executive experience.

I would I would say in terms of management, again, what is three million people? The, you know, the people who don't like him are really, are really flying that flag IT IT was an allegation. He was never charged and he did pay somebody to sign a confident i'd got ta think that these payoff s are going to go away because they are never confidential.

They always have coming out right? And they're just in correctly, incorrectly. They're just a stain or an area of guilt, right when you paid someone off.

And you can also imagine a scenario where someone makes an allegation and you decide, you know, this will be easier for my career and your lawyer advice that you just pay IT. This is a touchy one. At least you could make the argument that they are trying to bring an youth this person served. This one seems actually kind of less batch IT crazy. I think to think that has the left all of up in arms is, quite Frankly, that he worked at fox.

Well, that's what they're leading. Well then I think IT IT reflects so poorly on them to say, I go, this guys a morning host. It's like, a, don't be shady about morning house but b like, look at his bio before you do that. And if you dig in, there is plenty for you to be critical of. We should also mention that he was taken off duty for binds inauguration because he was deemed to quote, quote, possible insider threat because of a tattoo that he has on his bye p that associated with wait the premises groups now he maintains, obviously, that is not why he has that tattoo, but IT is something that was taken seriously enough that he was pull off of productive detail.

That's just, I can strange, he has a tattoo that is, if so, I I don't know that's a new wrinkle on the people.

I think there are two tattoos that people are focused on. Pete has a lot of tatoes. I don't know this. This one's really tough.

I, I, I just don me that my tramp stamp is going to keep me firming secret into OK. Let's move on from this one. This is a top one or or well.

also, can we just say so that in light of what we are about to discuss, odds are that pete is going to get confirmed because they can only torp so many nominations. And I think that mac gates is the top priority in terms of knockin .

thrill to talk about that. Is this a strategy to do a blood offering that give mad an opportunity to stepped down before the ethics investigation comes out? Put forward this batch crazy guys, so everybody else seems less crazy.

Is this is strategy where you think the trump administration knew that gates probably wasn't going to get through that would be a great weapon of mass distraction from how qualified or unqualified the other ones are, that they aren't someone who is, as I would argue, more credible claims is under current investigation is a fair current investigation. The house ethics report that they wrote about IT this one feels IT would think if there's one position we have to be pretty squeaky clean IT would be this one. What your thoughts on former represented gates?

He stepped down, right? Yeah, so Johnson's majority dwindles by the day. So I would say yes that I thought that IT was five d chest or whatever years, whatever the best chess is, the most thoughtful chess .

except that .

and and except that IT was reported that trump. Made this decision and didn't consult susi wives and basically was talking to gates and like one part of the airplane and susi wise was in the other part like playing dominoes with her grandkids or something like that and was like, WTF, i'm sorry what my gates for returning general.

So obviously gates made this pitch in an urgent way and auditioning IT as like that I can help you the most of anyone, right? Like, I am on in comfort whether other people might have some sort of moral compass, but like, I got nothing here, right and you know what i'm going to do to boot. I'm going to a resign right away.

I'm a Scott. This ethics investigation, which I think probably to some degree appeals to trump this idea of being falsely accused of things whether, I mean, that doesn't really seem like gates was falsely accused because there are people, I guess, that they're plotting to get on the record who were at these sex parties with him in. The big problem is around the seventeen year old that he had sucks with in front of a bunch people against a pool table at a party. And I passed no judgment. Accept the minor .

part of no.

I mean, the minor thing is not good. And then there were no, and there were all those exchanges like that. They were then knowing him and his, I don't say colleague, that's like, too nice of you is what .

you call people .

who go around doing that together, his power, who was like his wingman, then moving people. So I feel gates is the ultimate racking ball that trump wants and the one who will identify deep status, like right away to him. And I think that's really what trump is paranoya about.

So I think he does want my gates. I think he probably accept that he's not going to get MC gates. I mean, it's rumour that up to thirty republicans would vote against him.

Now that's what happens every time they say, like all this is definitely not going to happen and like maybe it's just Susan Collins in the summer kosky and a couple of others but like there are enough people in republican caucus were on record saying, I really hate this guy. He's complete scum. So I think that gates is like, number one, not getting through, but not because he was intended that way just because he shouldn't .

get through out. I think of a tosi govert for directive. National intelligence.

I know like you at all. No, I think is really bad. She's part of this cohort of, like former democrats, that republicans always thrown on our faces, that my colleagues will be like what we have our of k junior, we have tosi gabor.

And like guys, this isn't the own that you think that IT is right? Like people who can be persuaded over with the promise of, and these are big jobs, right, that are coming their way. But the kinds of arguments that they ve been making against democrats don't really feel like they were that solid, at least for the last few years. But tosi gabbard, you know, he was a burne standards accolate to ran in twenty twenty SHE, had some very embarrassing moments during the debate, especially with people to judge who absolutely decimated her.

And i'm not want to lightly call someone a russian asset, but he is very partial for arguments that the crimson in max, and has been doing that since the begin of the invasion of ukraine, basically saying that ukraine wasn't respectful of them, that they were running bio labs, american back bio labs, and that was the argument that putin was using, that they had to go in because, uh, they were going to attack them with what they were making these labs. And the truth is, is just public information that these labs exists, and that happens all over the world. And we worked together to make sure that people can be protected.

And if there is something like a covet that shows up, SHE also went to visit assad in syria and didn't tell the U. S. Government and came back and said like that the people, they are really like him, which is obviously parroting talking points that are completely unacceptable and russian, say, TV, and they are very savy over there.

They love her. They call her their girlfriend. What do you think about her? Well.

I don't think it's fair to call her russian asset. I don't think he does. And to get representative walston shell said he is a very russian asset and there's no evidence, as far as I can tell, that they actually control her.

Having said that, I think the more legitimate argument is that he shows no SHE provides comfort to the enemy. Well, I show is our enemy. I would describe china's, our adversary or competitor, but I wouldn't qualify them as our enemy.

We have mutual assured because we are sense to build capital nations, and they produced the ship we buy. We need each other. Russia's, our enemy. They are spending a lot of time and energy trying to destabilize our society.

And somebody who finds empathy for assad, who is one of the most murderer leaders in the world for putin, in my opinion, just doesn't share our values. I'm not accusing her being a spy or asset, and I don't see events of that. But this is not somebody to have someone come in that I think would be just such a puncture blow to the culture them around there. Quite Frankly, IT seems to be really bad management on the part of the truth administration.

I think that that's right, right. And this isn't just about the D. N. I. pack. But in general, to the culture point, I think the argument that they're trying to make is that the culture at a lot of these places is not good, right?

That there are people within them that are not being fair and just in the way that they do their jobs, that there are practices that are being put into place or rules that are common, inform that don't make us safer, don't make us more. I don't make us the fighting force of the twenty century that we need to be. And I think that hearing those grievances and having those conversations is something that democrats have probably been too resistance to doing.

And IT has forced the pendulum to swing in the absolute opposite direction, and where people just say, burn IT all down. And that's a terrible place to be because there are millions of civil servants that are doing a really fucking in good job right at what they do. And they are subject matter experts and they understand a hell of a lot more than people who have like tosi no no experience in intelligence.

And to add to that, our allies are not going to share information with us, and that's the cornerstone of being able to be efficient and to be able to do anything good in the world. We have to be able to work with those who we are on the same side as. I don't know what the future of nado locks under an administration with these people filled out there.

IT will be tenuous in the best case scenario. And this isn't just like one truck came in the first time and side, like everyone should pay their fair, sure, you should pay like one percent or whatever IT was. I mean, this is something much more substantial and frightening.

And IT scares me to think about an amErica isolated. I mean, when they say amErica first, I hear amErica isolated. And there's a hello a lot that's going to be going on behind our backs if you have people like tosi gabbard in the DNA position on where you'll say, well, we can go to her and k about this and that's when bad actors fill a power vacuum. And for non bad actors, for the people that we just typically work with, there is going to go about their business and not count on us in the same way, and that's extremely damaging as well.

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Let's talk a little bit about the department of government efficiency. Although jan musk, to back from a sani, were appointed to the newly created department of government efficiency, which they're calling dose. Of course, what is your what do your initial thoughts on this?

I feel like this is the toy you give to people or kids, kind of like kids I don't know, but like he needed to give them something. Elon musk is principally responsible for him winning the selection. Like, besides trumpets say the number two in that after her is elon mask and the vote was, I think the first one who dropped out to really endure Simon has been totally trumpy.

I don't really know what this is going to be. I mean, elon max has like fifty different things that he's doing and he's launching more rockets this week though he seems to be obsessed with being part of the trump orbit. Thr of these articles about how annoyed trump is, adam, that he just like won't go away and he's that Morales go all the time.

But what i'm concerned about, if they actually do get some degree of power is that they are going to go around getting rid of things that a you shouldn't be getting rid of. But also just like firing tens of thousands of people, you're a Spike in the unemployment rate. I don't know what happens to like maryland and Virginia and dc, right, if you get rid of such a huge swath of coon coyote racy but that they aren't actually thinking these things through.

They're just, I mean, the wake was giving an interview where he said something like, you know, we're going to do when to take social security numbers and like if IT starts with this digit, this happens to you and if IT ends, what this kind of digit that happens to you. And like there is an actual reason why our social security numbers are the way they are. They based on where we were born.

But when you hear someone talk like that is very hard to take this seriously. And I am concerned about these mass reductions. And the hicks on with murray barrosa over the weekend and SHE was even I mean, she's very partial to Donald trump this idea of creating more efficiency and he was given him the eyebrow, is he was like, dude, what are you talking about?

So first of its terms sort of like an oxymoron to have a new department. If was a task force at first, this thing has no power, as my understanding. But these any sort of spending cuts or reductions in labor force in the government would have to approve of by congress or specific department. Is this thing effectively has no teeth you can make .

hard like giving yeah your kids like a toy yeah like it's like .

almost like an ambassador to the bahamas or something. So and IT just strikes me as you are starting off the wrong foot, when you have a department of government efficiency that has two co heads anyways, if you look award the spending is their ability to actually like where where they would make cuts. IT gets pretty narrow, pretty fast in terms of what they could actually look out for cuts. One thing I really do like about this so is they are they've kind of put out a call to say we're looking for hardworking people actually think the benefit here won't be cutting.

It'll be adding employees or a certain type of employee that is they have put out sort of this call says of your interview the government and you want to work really hard and bring you new ideas, innovation please send us your cv and I metal guy here who ah saw this company is is wealthy now and is trying to figure out is anything and is purpose other than improving a sleep and wearing and or ring all the time. The and he he sent to resume into a front of my nose on and I like to calm first lady alona. He knows him and he asked if you could get my resume in front of because i'm really interested a dojo, whatever is.

And I really do like the idea and think if this group, a conversion of following IT will be worthwhile. And that is, if IT brings some aspirational kind of innovation coolness back to what are largely seen as unfairly kind of stale, lame jobs in other word's government, other than going wearing a uniform for the military, I would argue that going to work for the government outside of our security oats or defense Operators does not have a lot of aspirational value. And if they can restore some of that, I think that would be a really good thing.

Your thoughts? Yeah, listen, I think that the best inventions are the most progress that we make is when the public and the private sector get together and they bring the best ideas from both of those backgrounds. So there is potential for that.

And I don't want to underestimate elon mask ever. I think the vae is a smart I I don't think he's an elon mosque level. Thank her. I think very few people in the history of the world happen. So I think that there is potential in that way.

But at least from early quotes about IT or the way that that has been discussed, if feels much more just like taking a hammer to everything. And I think that when you do that and a lot of ways, that's what trump is, right? He's just is a disruptor.

He's going to blow IT all up. And I hope that they will be more thoughtful about IT and also consider that there are millions of people who have given their lives, and that is why they start afraid. I mean, people in midd level, bureaucratic or jobs, understand it's not sexy, right? It's not the thing that gets your name and lights in any way.

But they do feel a duty to serve. And I know that you obviously think that that's something really important. We have been talking about national service and things like that, and I hope that this doesn't end up in discourage people from wanting to serve in whatever capacity they can or in a whole bunch of people losing their jobs like we have a very good unemployment rate. If they decide these departments, you will see a Spike in that. And these are good paying jobs as well.

There is something to be said about the notion of bringing more competitive. I don't know, married bed is opposed to tenure base culture, to government, a work. What's interesting, as I believe stake in local employment is either flatter down the federal, the candidate administrative state does, has got a bigger under republican and democratic administrations, but a certain level of had a full body contact capitalism, the majority, or ninety percent, eighty percent of the workforce has to face every day. I think a little of that in the public sector would probably be a good thing.

The first piece of data, I think, though, that is gonna really check back the trump administration's current policies, is if one there's all a sudden a pretty significant uptake in unemployment, although I don't think you'll be able to affect this. What they might be able to do though, is substantially spy inflation. If I need to shit around tariff or these immigration policies in the moment that inflation starts to Spike and back from, I mean, IT IT was a real humans work on behalf of chairman power to inflation from whatever IT was five, six, seven percent down to two point two in which is where economists sort of the sweet by if in one quarter or one month, IT announcers are, they announced the CPI has has fifty, one hundred, one hundred fifty basis points, you're going to see a seriously think of some of these policies.

I think that's coming down the pike if he just gets fraction of what he's asking for in terms of troops. But I actually, unless triggered by this this department of government efficiency, because I think it's gonna hilarious when these two think they can run up to against congress and tell them to start cutting jobs in certain areas. I think it's can be really funny to see what actually what actually happens or dozen.

And finally, let's save the the best of the worst for us. R, K, junior question. mark. You turn just.

I everyone who's listening, I am sure, has heard before that you know about ark junior and his vaccines scepticism. You know, there are eighty three dead kids in samoa. They blame R, F, K, junior who showed up four months before a huge measles outbreak, and talk about how dangerous those kinds of vaccines are.

He's now trying to sugar code everything and make IT like, you know it's just about you doing what you want um but not giving any of the information um about how unbelievably good and effective vaccines are like this isn't about do I want the covet booster or not right? These are kids that are not getting measles vaccines. There is a very funny meme with marco rubio and he says marco and then ark junior says, polio yeah so I didn't enjoy that alter process foods are bad.

Pesticides in our food supply are bad. All of that can be true without of having to get arca junior. And I don't know.

I mean, you've been on cya sibs in mexico, so perhaps you didn't see marr from the weekend or from friday, should say but he had on doctor casey means, do you know her? I so she's a canford educated doctor. He wrote above those secured and good energy, the surprising connection between metabolism and limitless health.

And SHE was talking just about how we have no prevention system for chronic disease and that he wasn't taught anything in medical school that actually helped her treat human beings, and what a racket IT is, and how we can do so much Better. And he was giving crazy, sad, lic our life expectations. Cy for american man is seventy three in japan.

Its eighty three, seven and switzerland were the sickest of the top eleven income countries in the world. And he said in the interview, you know, i'm not a trumper, but IT excites me that r unior trucking on some of these issues. And so I say, can we have doctor casey means S R H H S.

Secretary because he doesn't have a brain. Warm SHE didn't take a dead bear cup and put IT in central park. And going back to the morality clause, ark junior is a prolific fillin. Dea, I think, is the most generous, waited to describe this, and his wife ended up killing herself over this. He was detAiling all of his affairs and a diary in lurid detail, like, why do we need morally bankrupt people in these huge .

positions of power? Be worse if this happened for the presidency? I, me, we're not. We didn't even go there because I don't know.

I know IT upsets me. I get.

I get to think about R K. genu. There are some aspects of what he says that I think are so powerful. And this notion that there's this, I believe this, there's this unholy alliance between and the industrial food complex.

He wants to get you addicted to sugary, shady food and then hand you over to the diabetes of industrial complex and then tell people who are obese that you're finding your true is not not a vanilla or and this is, this is the epidemics that kills more people and cover every year. And americans share one thing, and that is now more than fifty percent of americans are anything except maybe on netflix, that was on prime. But the one thing we do, shares at seventy percent of americans, are b way.

And he has gone right after the food industrial complex and said that we have all the wrong and sandals kids should be able have a healthy and she's really good on this stuff. And then with the problem is when I got him, kandy, whose handsome and gets an efficient title and I don't care, is trying to basically White wash all of the incredibly insane things he said about vaccines you're going to have. You know, when kids get ruBella and measles, you know, the end of losing limbs and the end of dying, I don't care.

It's the semiconductor, the printing press, the iphone, whatever you you think is the premiere innovation of the last hundred or two hundred years, I guess the printing press is more than that bit. I would argue that the premiere innovation, the premier technology, the most the most impressive thing that shows how when we come together, we can do just tons of good for the species is vacations. Vaccine have saved tens of millions of lives. And for this guy to be coming up in is a true story, are telling people the best thing you can do when you see a new mother and her baby is to come up and whisper, don't get her vaccinated.

Yeah, what s he doing that like on a hiking trail around?

I mean, this this is just IT is just unacceptable to find a faced science like that in spread this kind of misinformation that at the end of the day results in a level of death, disease and disability that is just unneeded. It's just such a shame because on so many things, I think he could really be a change agent. But the notion that we're going to have an anti I ax person in this role is just, just fucking insane.

And then so just as trump like stocks up, because the general substance, you would cut corporate taxes, which would increase earnings and thereby increase divide the shares, are we have seen a similar melting across the pharmaceutical sector, specifically those who get a lot of money from back scenes on word that Kennedy was going to get. H, H. S.

And check out this. I like lilly, down thirteen and a half percent over or test of six and half percent. Vier four point six percent. And modern, down in nine point three percent. I me this is this is literally hundreds of billions in market cap draw down because of an individual who has seen as antibes in the market so far. The market has been remarkably prescient. And if the market is correct here what their sign is, this guy will decrease substantially the adoption and usage of vaccines, which is, in my view, just again, see a about death, disease and disability IT beggs.

The question, and I wanted to notice well, that the world health organization, as reported, that global meses cases have surged more than twenty percent, and over one hundred thousand kids have died now in the last year, I think, over knockin their missile vaccine. So that's obviously a huge problem. But this is where the lake.

We don't need experts for anything like the joo gan philosophy, like i'll just look IT up myself as google. Yeah, and you can get a lot out of that. But I I don't know. I still want my doctor to tell me what SHE recommend and certain ly, what you recommend for my children. What happened in covet has just monumentally fucked up society. And just open the door to all sorts of lunacy and that there were people who were saying vaccines cause autism before all of this arcachon are being one of them by now that I don't want to say it's mainstreamed, but that certainly people aren't getting, you know, they raised the eyebrow like they used to when they say things like that is deeply concerning.

Yeah, it's anything this falls into the rubbery of anything that the far left and the far right agree on is just a really bad fuck and idea. Actually, the N. F. X.

Movement started on the far left now, so of the screen, don't yeah don't put big corporations in in your body, but I find that the far left in the far right come together to agree on things like reckless spending, anti semitism and anti I ax. So be very orful when you hear A O, C, or I don't know, tech crews on agree on something. Alright, just let's take a quick break.

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Welcome back. Republicans have officially claims ched the house reluctant mike Johnson, a speaker. Democrats are hoping to shrink the majority to one or two seats.

The things started to get tRicky because three new trump points are currently serving in congress, a government to scientists to started scheduling special elections. But that could take a while. Just how might these open seats impact the houses ability to get things .

done initially hugely? I mean, my Johnson has made jokes about IT, and there are some who are thinking that trump is playing checkers in this. But again, loads to give him that kind of credit, but that basically he just wants everything to be about him and he doesn't want to give anyone the capacity to do to be powerful, except for him as the tip of the spear, not the sphere, which is a cool place to go to a concert.

So having a slim majority like this is a big problem for Johnson. And he has a old agenda. And he's been talking about IT for months since that.

He wants to get done, obviously, extending the trump tax cuts. He wants to do stuff on china. He wants to address the border.

Boosting oil and gas production, though, were producing more oil than we ever have in life, and expanding school choice and going after size and scope of the federal government, which I guess doge is going to be eating into. But Johnson really have his hands tied on all of this. And I think they are going to do another continuing in march to keep the government open.

But I don't know how fast these appointments are going to be to fill these open seats. no. And santo has a as his market, rubio, he has gates, he has Michael z who's going to be national security adviser.

And who knows, I in trump isn't done necessarily in what he's doing. So it's going to be slim and in the senate, least as far as these confirmations go. Johnson, who's the senate majority leader now, is that he's open to use a sapp intent, apparently mvo. He said he isn't and he's the one who isn't charged this particular moment.

But when you have a bunch of lunatic appointments or potential appointments and you're going to lose Susan Collins and lesser cows, he probably on every single one of them, you have a very, very slim majority to be playing with, even with j advances, the time vote. So IT feels kind of lame, ducky, even for the try factor that they were able to pull off. What do you think about him?

I just want to come out. I actually like mike Johnson. There's something about speaker. The house must be administrative all. And I don't like his politics, but uh, I think he's done actually a pretty a good job keeping all the fuck and crazy and lies so which we can do basic. So I have funding for the government and pass a budget. I think he I actually think he's done this job and I like chang ton because I just think he's start and handsome and it's important.

Oh, I was going to say that, but I didn't know if I was supposed to objectify people. But yeah, john didn't. Like if your husband looks like that at sixty three, like.

that's winning. One more big story. Cancelling a senator bob cases race is heading to a recent, t, how's I raced looking just.

well, bad. This is so I understand why bog K Z wants. I mean, the issue is with ballot that weren't dated properly and there's been core battled back forth on this and the right is trying to spend this as election to illness, and which IT absolutely isn't.

And this has been done in the past, but basically everyone accepts that deep mind. Mic has won that seat, and, you know, we defended really well, democrat said on a comparative basis, and we held four or five shared Brown potentially, I guess, could have held on by looking at the trends that was unlikely. And we knew that we were gonna SE john tester.

So it's turning into more of a sword. I think that we could actually win the seat, but he wants every ballot to be counted. And I think that is how democracy works in all this.

But dave and cork has gone to dc. He has an office with his name on IT. We no longer have bob cases seat and very good.

So just any any before we rap there. Any predictions for the weekend?

It'll be interesting to see if there is progress on the treasury pack. What I wanted to talk to you about, like IT, was supposed me down to just two to Howard lta, ck and Scott basin and now parenting. There are a couple others that are in the mix, roman, who started mark roan Apollo, and Kevin walsh, who was in contention in two thousand and seventeen as well.

And of course, every battling over like whether terrorists are a good thing or a bad thing. But I think that that will matter a torn and all of this. And one thing that trump has been able to do, he did with manual, is can attract some Normal people right to come that wanted to monetary policy.

So i'm curious if you think, like if he cares the most about how the economy is, right? Because that's how people will remember him. And the stocker market is already down to pre election levels.

We should note. Do you think what aid do you have any answer on who he is going to pick for this job? They're doing like a survivor type thing where they're all going down to maroo go. And where do you think he's actually a net out on the terrify idea? So I .

can I mean, as is the nars kissed my ring than than anything, I can stand this public blow jobs of come down and mitt romney and after after ship posting me, you know beg for forgiveness and then i'm going to publicly release these photos I I don't like these public trios as you call IT um I don't know the voice of amErica has got tell whatever IT is I find that I just don't think you should treat people as we have the stature ah I don't know.

John paulson, john paulson is famous for one enormous trade, and that is a supreme credit trade where he went short as much a supreme bomb bonds made like 5x。 His investor's money other than that, paulson, the fund itself, not that, that indicates whether you are qualified for the position has not performed that well. The guy find incredibly impressive is mark roan.

I've been at Apollo conferences where he'll give an overview, the economy. In this guy, this is get some serious fucking and brain power. I also like the way he handled the controversy around pen. In contrast with that man, he was very upset.

Mark rone, who guess very involved pen, was very upset about the comments for the lector of the president, basically got her fired, but then didn't get drunk on power and start deciding, like who should be fired, where. And now we should redo the educational institution. I actually think he handled that very well.

He was forced fully a dignified, and I know personally having sentiment, action. When IT comes to the economy, you don't want to bring in a candidate. I mean, you just you don't want to bring in someone charismatic but stupid or whose views are outside in the mainstream.

But the adults in the room have to be the people to get the jobs at the jobs around the economy. Now, now, having said that, A T H S is argued, even more importantly, more important. But america, I see amErica is a platform for two things that defensive our shores in our citizens to create atmosphere ix for prosperities, such that people can develop by economic current for them in their families.

And if you're worried about rights, it's pretty easy. Shed more money into a community, you're going to get more rights. So I hope that it's wrong, but I don't and that's not even to say I think the other one's wouldn't be good pigs.

But I know first hand, this guy is very impressive. I know the other stuff has more checks and baLances on IT. These guys, in my opinion, have the most consequential impact on america.

I mean, if you like, Taylor swift was person of the year SHE shouldn't have been IT should have been IT shouted been chairman power. He has a lot more impact on everyday lives uh, then almost anyone in administration. So anyways, I hope it's mark rome, but I have no insight into who I might be.

Well, i'm glad we listen to you then. No, that was ince. I i'd actually having heard him and I I had forgotten about his role in the anti metam on campuses um issue I think the only one in that group before who's a little nutty is lta ck.

The rest of them are pretty norm pex. So we'll see where trump wants to go that and this is like a place where I feel like shusy wiles. We may see the impact of her um but i'm excited for somebody to bring a bit of a baLanced or more nuances perspective, at least on the the tariffs pitch and all of this.

And you know maybe he's just using IT as a negotiating tool, I don't know, or maybe he's going to destroy the economy. So that's, I guess, what i'm watching for this week and i'm interested in and we're onna talk about this with john favorite from hot save amErica on the raging moderates feed, which you have to go to unsubscribe. But this autopsy, which continues to go on now a couple weeks then and that democrats performing on ourselves, has been enveloping me.

I'm reading more content listings to more podcast about what went wrong and where we go from here. And I continue to be hugely conflicted. And I know that you're just in the lake, we got our asses kicked camp.

But now that the popular vote is below fifty percent and it's the third smallest win since eight hundred and eighty eight, i'm feeling less self filler ory. Is that a word you know and just thinking like let's pick ourselves up and let's dust ourselves off, let's figure out how to explain the base again, right? Bigger tent, but that we don't need to sit around and embarrass ourselves constantly about what happened. So I don't .

know if you've changed review and I think mattered. He got seven and the swing states, and I worry that democrats are gonna some sort of cold t or keep making holo excuses. You know, we only lost by more people unsubscribed to the washington post, and he won, was gone, son, by keep hearing all this stuff that I actually IT was closer than we think, and we shouldn't change a thing.

I worry that the democrats won't take this. You know, crisis is a terrible thing to waste. And I think this is an opportunity for democrats similar after the eighty ago. We have to stop that, stop institutions, whether it's the ARPG or unions, dict our policy and start thinking about what actual people need for us.

And instead of deciding that we're sort of some you know self appoint to cops for so for social justice or some sort of political ethology y, let's get back to the clinton years where we're going to have budget surpluses. Let's be the adults in the room around the economy and start talking about the deficit. And instead of playing identity politics and being more obsessed with the race and quite Frankly, republican, and think to everything through the lens of your identity, starts seeing stuff to the lens of, do you have money?

Let's double down on the middle. Let's double down on youth. And for god, six.

So I can figure out a way to have less insane people representing our party. Let's pipit towards the middle. I think that really scares this whole narrative.

Will we weren't batshit crazy enough on the left that we should have double down on these values? I think that would be in a disasters. I'm hoping that similar to what happened after regan, democrats rethink things and form a coalition in the middle, because that's for the majority of americans are.

And that's the opportunity is pivoting towards the center, being more focused on what actually impacts people's lives as this constant virtual nal, this constant inability to have a sense of humor, this this massively over reactive viewpoint, where were offended IT everything representing every special interest group, to the extent that all we're doing is not representing the twenty four percent people. H specifically. And I know everything is a nail and i'm a hammer, but I I generally believe this was the election of Young people fAiling in their parents.

And if your kid doesn't doing well, and i've said this before, you don't give a flying fuck about territorial sovereign in ukraine or transfer ts, that's just a luxury you don't have when your kids aren't doing as well as you now bring shame and rage through out the household, nineteen amErica or democrats will be smart just to get back to the basics. And is just James carvel said, it's the economy stupid and I worried that you can make a bunch of excuses. I know we should double down on our current our current virtue signal meets identity politics. Thank you for my ted talk. Thank you for my ted talk.

I so without disagreeing with you because I don't I just want to know that come Harris did not talk about identity politics issues. And the problem with that was is that IT LED trump to find her and our refusal to push back back uncertain things like the trans, anti trans ada, you know, she's where they am. I am for you cost us the blue printed polling on where the late brokers, what what turn them and bigger than inflation was social issues.

And so it's always a delicate dance IT. Is the economy stupid? It's not as simple as like he did.

He did try to pave IT to the middle, but he wouldn't say that. Should I said in twenty is crazy, right? And I should have never said that. And there's a great piece in the new york times about democrats kind of pushing back against special interest groups. It's called like when will democrat just say no and it's by this guy, adam jettison, and I think is how you pronounce that who worked for Harry read and then for one of our favor patthern. So that I found that really interesting.

But good stuff, anything fun? Personally, just doing anything interesting and good.

No, I was in L. A. Last week though. I had A, I had lunch at the beverly house hotel. I thought of you um get .

fifty four dollar cob salad.

It's crazy. Y I mean, I wasn't paying, so I felt Better, but I my favor. Thing to do there though is to try to figure out who everyone else is, like, who there was a kid.

I swear that I thought he was fifteen and fourteen, fifteen, right? And he was waiting for his rule, right? I feared his parents are like somewhere else, or dropped him off early, whatever.

And then IT turns out that the room is first. Justin baber, no. Well, maybe he looked like attack Justin bieber. Then they're a lot of women with babies so my over swell um but I thought, yeah, the people watching at that places incredible. But yes.

the cob salad amazing. Thursday I my there, my second home, my second.

second home. Ah, you live in london. London has so many great hotels for you to become like a hanger there.

Yeah, yeah. It's that's wonderful. So back to me. So I go from I I go from those couples tomorrow to vegas for speaking gig. Then I go to L A.

For a couple days, then i'm back to vagus for f one. And then i'm going to brazil next week. I'm going to stop power for a speaking dog. yeah. Have you been to brazil?

I have not.

It's lovely. It's I think it's some first of the beef is outstanding and the people are really hot. So you know being a button chocolate beef and hot people, how can you go on? How can you go on?

Just I don't know and then one day maybe .

you'll see your family again. Yeah I I I think they are doing just fine. All right, that's all for this episode.

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