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Alright, enough of that. Thank you for enduring that. Uh, what do we talking about last week that gets flopped hard on capital health's confirmation, but by thursday morning, trump h apparently called to let him know he didn't have the votes in the senate.

By the afternoon gets announced on social media, this confirmation have become a distraction. And for him having sex of miners. A few hours later, trump announced new pic lda torney general pam a bondy is a bondy bondy border bondy bondy SHE is a bond girl. Bond girl a trump loyal to has tied the susi wells and borst efa people got to get a names.

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yeah no, no. Okay, just you know, as always, you're going have to Carry the show. What is this signal that there is? Is there a limit? Is there an actual climate in the trump administration to get that gets actually the cross the line here?

I guess that's A A P G, read of all of this, though. I mean, we were one more time at at last week. The expectation was that this one wasn't going again through, especially once I started being like a jacking back in four years about whether they're onna, release the assets report and then trump.

Apparently, the transition team doesn't wine ever need anyone to undergo Normal FBI checks, which is the usual procedure that we can do IT with an outside firm. So I can hire you barren to look at them and then we'll see what's going on. But I never think it's a straight forward as IT seems.

I feel like the fact that mckee said I am not taking my seat so he won real action and he could still, even though he resign from congress, he resigned from this congress, not the next one. So the expectation was, well, maybe he's just gonna go back to congress, which would also help make Johnson out that he doesn't have to have a few months and down one further in his majority because they can only lose you know one to three IT votes per issue, as IT is. But then he says, i'm not going back to congress and that makes me think like, what terrible thing are you going to deal? You know, he said, there are ready.

People that I know have a harden position. No to me mention a conal, Susan Collins, limmer koi and then john curtis, who will be the new senator from youtube, replacing mt. Romney and IT made me think, are the other controversial pics not getting that kind of feedback? Or is mag gates the only one who doesn't want to go through this public airing of anything? Because I there are a few that are telling pete hegyes, i'm not into you or R, F, K, junior. So do you what do you think I .

listen to the daily podcast and the mic gates and basically the reporter had done some work where he had found some of the evidence that was going to be included in the ethics report that the republicans managed to squirt, saying that IT should not come out. Now that is no longer a member of congress, which makes absolutely like we no sense to me.

Let's spend a lot of time looking at a report and if gets claims or is uh, innocent as he claims that I would, I would imagine that the report would state that he would want the report to come out. This is the thing that absolutely strikes me. He wasn't worried about people finding out that there was evidence that he was having sex with minors.

He wasn't worried about what people would think about him. He wasn't worried about his inability to be america's top cop with this type of clock he was just for. He wasn't going to get the votes. In my view, this really represents a new law that we have a government and we have people who would even entertain this type of nomination. I just I don't think i've ever seen anything like this.

I'm not historian in trying to think of the last time there was a nomination that was this brazing inappropriate, stupid and insulting uh to amErica in this general notion that when we elect people and they have the power of putting people in power, that there is some fidelity to decency, to the constitution, to the actual the actual getting a job description. I just will just seem to be setting the, you know setting new lows every day day. You know, I just my branches.

I think the problem is, is that the top of the ticket is what, or I should say, who shattered a lot of these norms to begin with. So why wouldn't the cabinet follow suit on that front? And there were all of these stories coming out about, you know, past nominees that hadn't been able to get through like under bill clin because they had an undocumented nani.

Like those were the days right when you just had someone who was yes here illegally, but was good enough to be taking care of your child, which is probably the most important job that we have globally speaking. There's nothing more precious than your child and who you entrust them to be with for ten hours a day or whatever you're doing. And that was ending nominations.

And now we're having conversations about, like, how many minors is too many, or how many allegations of sexual assault is too many, how many brain warmth, how many affairs and sex journals that ended up leading to suicide? Des is too many. And I I don't know IT makes me think a lot about what the democrats are going to have to do.

And this is one of the cases that people have been making, not because he behaves like this, but because he has this kind of swag for Gavin newsome. You know, there's this whole part of social media that talks about as the cycle path we need, right? Like the guy who want to show up as relentlessly ly on message is fast on his feet, is so good looking, is so sharp. And I think they're going to a lot of people that feel that way that are gonna scared away from a kind of, you know my pec right, like a guy was just standing up there with his nice wife and his two kids um and doesn't have that kind of energy because it's clear republican party is feeding off of to privity at this point.

Let's talk about pam new A G probably SHE comes across as fucking third good martial right now. And my sense if she's going to sell right through, what are your thoughts?

I think SHE will as well IT may if there was some game of three d chest going on to put IT gates up to get someone else and and you know, big sense of relief this could have been in. I think pam bondi is not going to have any issues, as he was a prosecutor for a long time. First female ag in florida, very, very competent.

She's been in a lobbying firm um called balloon for the last several eos. And susi wise as a partner there is a very good relationship with susi wise, which is obviously a big part of us. SHE has appreciated herself to trump over the last ten plus years.

So in two thousand sixteen, he actually endorsed trump over mark arroba, which was a big deal at the florida, went for trump bursts, the hometown hero, though I guess maroo has been in florida the only one. Two things that I think are relevant. So she's very into this kind of same line of argumentation that gates was making and just i'm investigate the investigators. I'm going to weed out all of the bad guys, get rid of jack smith, his whole teams. She's been talking like that actually went for trumps claims of voter fraud in twenty twenty, even went to fill the alpha and gave a press conference about how messed up everything was going.

The false claims of a widespread voter fraud the one kind of scandal I guess um reveals around a twenty thirteen political donation so that's when that huge lawsuit investigating trump university was going on and all the state es had to sign on and there were a lot of victims from truth university in florida and pam bondi ended up not signing on and also got a twenty five thousand dollar contribution from trumps charity. So that will, I think, be the kind of fireworks in terms of the scandals, I guess, in her hearings and the more Normal republicans, I think we will want to hear you're not just going to come in and do everything that he wants, especially considering the supreme court ruling about immunity for kind of everything. But in general, this looks like it's gonna be absolutely fine.

And just what going back to get, let's be clear, democrats have had their own struggles with scandal and especially around IT used to be the republican stall in in. Democrats had affairs. Now does everybody's wing everything that feels like a book, infidel.

Weirdly, scandal that is not sequester to the republican party. But I do think it's important that we design between scandal and ill, real criminal activity, such as having sex of miners. And I gotto believe that that report, I can't believe IT hasn't been late, was pretty demanding.

But it'll get IT.

It'll be I yeah .

Susan wild democrat, the rinking democrat on the committee, has said as much he was really upset that republicans were leaking. Inside information from what was going on in the room. Um I think that they're going to get IT out and I think that's probably why they ate thought I got to to get out of here because I am not going to be insulated from this.

Um one thing we haven't talked about, which is so central all this then I do want to get to other nominees but you know he's he's picking everyone who's good on T V. And pay. Bandi has spent a lot of time on our airwaves on fox. Um but when you think about IT, it's actually really smart if you can get qualified people who are also good on T V, that they can defend themselves and that they can defend you and not look like a deer in headlights every time they give an interview. So a lot of people are dismissive of IT, but I think it's actually .

very good strategy says says one of the costs of the five. Um okay.

I am not getting picked for anything.

but i'm just saying you look like you look like hilary line at this point, you would be the least you would be the most qualified pkk in the cabinet right now. You I mean, yeah I you would look like loyd Benson would Better hair anyway on that, let's take a quick break. Stay with us. Support for this episode de comes from A W S. A W S, generate A A, I gives you the tools to power your business forward with the security and speed of the world's most experienced club.

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OK just a few more cabinet announcements were discussing Howard letters, ck was stabbed as commerce secretary, and Scott percent was picked as treasury secretary, which the markets like links. C man, a long time ally and donor, is name to lead the department of education, make man's background is light on education policy, okay, as if that matters. And he also cofounded the world wrestling entertainment federation with her husband.

The topic is the world wrestling entertainment, I think, anyways. And the most surprising pic doctor is as the head of the center for medicare and medicate services. What are your thoughts on these .

picks up and down, I guess. Lan, man, at a tough one. SHE was in the first administration.

SHE, was that thing going to be a somewhere here? SHE lied about having an education degree, which I feel is a big lie. If you're onna, go be the head of the department of education, essential education secretary. We should also know there have been a number of lost over years but there is even an open civil suit uh against A W W E that um these abuse scandals involving boys as Young as twelve years old that the mic mads hired people um one guy in particular who they knew allegedly was an abuse er and I didn't do anything to stop but they call IT the court on quote ring boy scandal but abolition the department of education is their talking point.

And one of the thing i'll be doing very early in the administration is closing up the department of education in washington dc. And sending all education and education work and needs back to the states we want them to run the education of our children because you'll do a much Better job of IT. You can't do worse. We spend more money for pure by three times than any other nation. And yet we're absolutely at the bottom were one of the worst.

I'm not sure that, that happens. You need sixty plus votes to be able to do IT. But what I think that they are going to try to do, and IT sends a really important signal across the country and also two teachers unions, is to talk more about school choice and vouchers.

And there are a lot of people, even on the democratic side, who are so disappointed in the quality of our public education. And for good reasons, we just could keep falling further and further or behind public schools, really let american students, especially american students who are poor, down during covet, but not letting them back in the classroom, even though we knew that kids were not transfering, generally speaking, kova to one another. And that would have been see if, because teachers didn't want to come in.

And you see, democrats like josh appeal, the governor of pennsylvania, has supported vouchers. I think that that is the way of the future and that democrat are going to really need to reckon with this. And linder mic man will be the the face of pushing that forward.

I don't think there's not getting around IT. They need a reformer, but this whole dog, a you know over reductio thinking of letters Carried to the department of education, just burn IT. You burn the village to save IT.

There are few investments may be outside of R, N. A, some science programs that show that are technically investment. So security is a cost.

We've decided to tax Young people to transfer money to older people, to eliminate or attempt to eliminate senior poverty. And IT has largely work, I would argue, to become too expensive. And now seniors of the wealthy generation in the history of a plan out there should be means testing.

IT should be pushed back. You used to be when security, first minute, eighty percent of the people would never get IT because they would die. Now, now, more than eighty percent at IT.

And he used to be twelve to one. You know, people, you're age, sporting people, my age. Now it's three to one anyways.

That is a cost. Department of education is an investment. And you might argue that the investment is not getting the R I deserves because IT is poorly allocated.

And I agree with you around school choice competition works. There are some teachers as as someone who went to public schools all the way to graduate school. I remember certain components of my education, amazon junior high school.

They were just warehousing us. There was thirty five kids per class. I was there with the first year. They uh, integrated the school.

So all of a sudden out of the school, fifty hundred kids, six hundred black kids from content, showed up after being on a bus for an hour. They were pissed off. And we all, in IT wasn't a hallmark movie.

We all hate at each other that this, as we said, black against White softball games. And the faculty allowed that there OK. We hate each other.

Absolutely IT was everything integration was not to be that's about is the good news was that by high school, something wonderful happened and we're all getting along. My two best friends were, one was a morning kid. We are going to stanford.

And there was black ket who got a football scholarship to lindsay eld, I think, of a university organ who lived in boldin hills. And his father was a minister. I mean, these two kids couldn't even more different, except they were both really good kids.

They're actually great world models for me. Um but he was my point is I was I was absolutely awful and I remember the teachers were so overwhelmed just trying to keep a lid. Thirty five kids, sometimes thirty eight kids for a class and all mine friends, my nice White friends, go on air quotes.

Their parents pulled them out of school immediately when integration started, and stuck them in this hippy dippy private school called win work. Now, I was one of the first moments where I thought, so things are different from me and my mom, because I went to home, said, I need to go to win. Works like so on.

We don't go to private yeah yeah and but the department of education, in addition to title, I think it's title one where they ensure that schools in rural poor areas get the funding they need to deliver an adequate education. They also responsible for her head start um and they also i'm here with you now because the department of education, specifically pell grants, and that is called grounds. Basically, you're in the lower third of income manning homes.

You get free, you get money, not even loans, which also student loans. The department of education overseas, which I believe that needs drastically performing. I'll come back to that, but I could not have gone to use soa without plugging.

And this makes my point. I also I give me me a chance to my favorite thing, and that is boast. I pay a lot of taxes. So these these pilgrims are in investment to pay off. I think if you I think if there are few things that you look at, look at and think a dollar invested in education, well delivered them on, saying there isn't reform is required.

Not only gets you additional incremental income, because you can occasionally produce people who do really interesting things, go into teaching themselves, start businesses, create tax, but you avoid a lot of cost because without an educational system, you're going to to pay for these folks one way or another, weather to incarceration, mental health, homelessness and welfare, food stamps, unemployment. So the department of education is arguably the place where you are going to get the greatest return on your investment if it's handled well. And it's just sort of it's sort of is depressing, although I guess you could argue her background who is, I believe, head a small business administration and maybe and SHE struction me is a component woman.

She's the least to one of the least bad pigs. But I I wish they would stop this bulshed notion that we're just going to get rid the department of education. And what's interesting, where I find interesting, I interviewed a gun roy stored, who's the cohoes of the rest is politics, which is his a member parliament.

Really bright guy was actually the tutor, the private tutor for prince Harry and wild. And he said, when they look at america, when britz look at america, they can't quite figure out the following. And that is we absolutely and priorities and don't talk about k through twelve education.

And we have some of the worst k through twelve education in the world of the g seven. But at the same time, we have amazing graduate schools, and at the same time we keep figuring out way to grow the economy. And he acknowledged that maybe that's the way the em, the natural order and economies.

We have shady schools, and it's like a hunger games and then they get to go to the best universities. And that struck me as a very upsetting you know, rubric or lends to which to look at education. But maybe that's because we just there's no doubt the case with twelve were awful and yet our economy continues to grow like crazy. But anyways, here thought on the department of education.

I think it's important and I hate you know, whether those is effective or not. The sweeping talking points about doing away with things that need help or need tender loving care is silly and reflects poorly upon you and is not how people run their business is either you I understand elon came and twitter a bit like that, but they ve been a lot of money to passion for free speech. Flash, the worst place i've only ever hung out of my life.

And IT reflects the lack of seriousness about this and a lack of caring concern for your core constituency. Because, guess what, a lot of people who don't make a tone of money voted for Donald trump. And guess what, they use the public school system. They don't have other options to to go to a private school. The lottery system care getting into charters, you know, might not get lucky and get to do that.

And so I think that they would be a lot more convincing as serious folks if they took a different line of argumentation about what they are going to do with the department of education, including making sure that people do have access to voulu ers in more circumstances. I think that, that is important. And you should be able to give people those options, certainly with religious schools, because no catholic school stayed open through the entire endemic.

That was something that they had going for them. And I understand why people want that. There is an aspect also to what make man will be overseeing and trust. And he talked about the threat of campaign.

And I do think that is important to, you know, they could essentially transfer responsibility for accrediting universities to college of for colleges to the states and trump sand talking about things like if your university isn't letting jewish kids go to class or get into the dining hall or get to the hotel or the hood on campus, we're coming after you. And I don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing to be tinkering around. What that are to at least be using IT as a threat.

Theyve also said as a CUDA, you know, if you have D, E, I policies, if you're using a formative action and the universities are strong enough that they can get to wherever form of affirmative action they think they need to, without IT sending up flags in that way. But what do you think about the approach of threatening these universities more if they are not treating each student as equal, like if they are not treating kids from one group like they would if they were black, for instance, or if they were L, G, B, T, Q. Plus.

like I had the service on, if if I went to risk, or the quad near royal U. C, A, or I went down to my universities in front of my building. And amy, you and I started, I held up a confederate flag, and I passed out bands to White kids.

And the kids without bands couldn't enter the university. They want to call in the fucking national guard. But when I mean, what was clear coming out of this zombie pocalypse, usually ots on campus, free speech is never freely when IT hate speeches against jews.

And this was a really low moment for universities. And I I advise the agreement in the university alive, nia. And we did a couple calls over the summer and said, okay, they were very worried about far. What happens if the flares up again.

And I thought the solution was pretty easy if there are students who are protesting, are putting up anything resembling in a camping and IT turns to hate speech, or they try and build I mean, basically they'd tried to build a many ah you know a many city, if you will, they are trust passing. You ask them to clear the area. You get in fifteen minutes, you warn them they will be punished.

You spell the first six or twelve students to violate this. And when work gets out that should just got real, you may have to call your folks and say, hey, mom, dad, you're going to fifty thousand boxes a year from me to get expelled for hate speech. This this will stop right away.

And and then the thing that didn't get much press that I have no tolerance for is I think you're cut at nineteen year old, a pretty wide birth. You're supposed to be stupid when you're in nineteen. And sometimes that stupidity move society forward.

Whether was the protest on campus to against vietnam, iraq, you know, sometimes kids are meant to push the boundaries, and sometimes they're thinking more ford and more correctly than in other parents. You cut them a wide birth, who I think should have absolutely been severely fired with a faculty that showed any empathy for this genocide, death called. And there still faculty at the university of california who put out exceptionally vile tweets, said they were inspired by the activities of of october seventh.

We are still shown up at the facility cafeteria and most of them IT ends up can't keeps the air of a paper bagging relevant research, but are in this ridiculous skill that is nothing but student that called ten. So there not only needs to be reform up and down, you know, in case we top, there needs to be reform in schools. And specifically, the first place I would start is that all university shipping on the hook for a quarter or a third student, bad student, that because what's really mda ious about my industry is a really good kid, shows up and he meets with the woman is in a nice pants suit as a big college logo behind her.

And he says, some bullet like this, education is an investment in yourself here, signing this paper work for for fifty, one hundred, two hundred or thousand doors and student loans. And then the kid, like many kids, finds out that here he has not cut out for college, leaves without a college. That certification of college IT gets to keep that debt and IT hatts this person, the rest of their life, the most dischargeable form of dead in history should be student loans.

And instead, because my colleagues wake up every morning and ask themselves, how do I reduce my account order to increase my compensation? I'll access cheap credit. And if if I don't deliver on my promise and the kid gets nothing for the money that's been able to them, i'm not on the hook for IT.

So if you put colleges on the hook for ten, twenty, thirty percent about student debt, stop loaning someone getting a fucking philosophy degree degree from joy bag on its university to go via bera. So my industry needs radical reform. But the notion that you can get rid of the department education is again another key theme in what appears to be both parties are guilty of IT.

Let's optimize amErica for the top ten percent at the cost of the bottom ninety, top ten percent. They are right, doesn't need the department of education. My kids still need the department of education.

They won't benefit from IT. It's the other ninety. And just looking at purely economically, it's investment that saves money.

I just wanted to really quickly, can we just talk about doctor oh and doctor to nah t for one second so doctor is as I had to the centers for medicare and medicated, it's laughed all in. The doctor sends and all the fat diets and all the quarry. I thought I was hilarious.

There was a peer reviewed peace in a british medical journal that picked forty random episodes of his show and found that his health recommendations were based on evidence just forty six percent of the time, which is pretty shady for a doctor. But what he does plan to do that is really dangerous, is to work towards the privatising medicare, to move us towards medicare advantage, which is what mostly people who are eighty plus are on. And the costs are enormous when you use medicare advantage.

And he has talked about bringing that two Younger medicare user, sixty six million people on medicare, including my mother and my dad. I saw him through cancer. Most unbelievable coverage. Do you have any doctor as feelings?

yeah. So I have a bias. I i've been i've been friends with many saudis for twenty five years and OK I find member to be here is a huge bus I just closed in that time.

No one. I know him well and I knew him before. I mean, I know him and just he he was literally taking hard side of canada s and putting them in the other people is a cardiothoracic transplant surgeon.

And he's a real good. And what I would say about about men, we don't share political views, but i've decided to separate the person in the politics. And this person is a really good man.

And when he was contemplating positions like this, when he was running for senate, he is really awful. And he knows we have different politics. And so he would call me and ask me from my view on things.

And I said that because IT makes me feel important, but also IT reflects well on him. Uh, memory is a high character person, and I know he got a lot of grief for being, you know, for not respecting the science around some of these supplements. And you know how blue barriers can save your life.

You got blow back that he deserve for that. But this is a good man. And you want to talk about some of the bullshit around cats.

And infidelity has been married, but I think close to forty years, one father, and the first thing I did when he got this, I congratulated me, call me, so I give me your views on so security. many. He really wants to get to go deep here and really try and be thought ful and helpful. So i'm a huge fan of doctor uses a man. He's a good man.

I'm good with that. And then someone who you may not know, but I know personally because we have nine fox personalities that are going to go to the administration thus far. Is doctor genee nested? And I wanted to mention that she's surgeon general.

She's a real deal doctor. And you can see that if she's being taken apart online for believing in vaccines for participating, and remember those like hand washing trends or doctors were like on doing tiktok and stuff of how to make sure that you keep your hands clean. SHE has called vaccines safe and effective.

IT will keep you off a ventilator, keep you from passing away. And not only do I just like her personally, but I hope that this is a signal. And doctor marty materia as well, who's that john's hopkins coming in for the fda, that there will be some hard science people in there. They're calling doctor fouche heels. I am thrilled with yeah.

you brought that up. And also just one use that as an excuse to recognize who I think has been the most consequential certain general history. And that is certain general evc mothy, who brought up lonely ess, who brought up Young man.

This is someone who put out thoughtful, ful research, elevating awareness around some really key issues, brought up how the mental health struggles of people with parents right now, which directly relates to the fact that we keep figuring out a way to vote in more seniors. We go themselves more money, such that I stay rich at the expense of people your age, you are trying to get buy with kids, all right, just, we have one more quick break. Stay with us.

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I don't feel like your brain is wired to receive all of those opinions at once. I don't I don't care that much about the opinions of other people to want to take them in daily. They we're all in verbally abusive relationship with our mart phones in in twitter and axa, whatever you call IT place a big, big role limit.

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Welcome back over in the house commerce swan Nancy mace introduced a resolution to ban trans women from using women's restaurants, rooms in locker rooms on capable around, thank god, representative mace, that god specifically targeting incoming congress. S woman, semitic bride. This is a shift for mace, who once supported alto. B, T, Q rights speaker mike Johnson supported mass, emphasizing single sex facilities. The bride responded, saying she's focused on lawing costs for deliver families, not battering debates, and he hopes colleagues will see the value in her work.

I didn't run for the united states house of representatives to talk about what bathroom I use. I didn't run to talk about myself. I ran to deliver for delicious. And while republicans in congress seem focused on bathrooms and trans people on specifically me, i'm focused on rolling up my sleeves, diving with the details, setting up my office and beginning the hard work of delivering for delvile ans on the issues that I know keep them up at night.

So what do we think of represented that?

Nancy may sucks. She's awful. And SHE had so much promise when he came into congress, he seemed like he was he was party like the Normal caucus like i'll stand up to trump and that's the right thing to do.

All you know, i'll always be on the side of south Carolinians. And now she's just high off of getting as many likes and retweet as possible. These videos that cheese posting are embarrassing for her.

And you know, and I don't know who started saying that during the first trump administration, but the cruelty is the point. The cruelty is the point here. You have been in congress for a while.

If you were concerned about someone being in your bathroom, you could brought this up because there are people who come in and out of congress, right? This isn't about there to the members of their own private bathrooms. And i'm sure that ceramic bride will be using that or their gender neutral restrooms.

But Nancy may showed no evidence that anyone hit was a threat. No one's been attacked. God for bid susman mean to be uncomfortable. And SHE is herself a rape survivor. And he talks about that regularly and the implications of being sexually assaulted.

But I see no correlation to this, except that you want to rial people up and take advantage of freely the level of misinformation that out there about transport. And I wanted to mention this year, so you go had new survey workout about how americans over estimate the size of minority groups and underestimate the size of majority groups. They think there are twenty one times more trans people in amErica than there are twenty seven times more muslims, fifteen times more juice and two more times um immigrants. So there's this fallacy out there that know kids are going to school and coming home with different drunk, that everyone that you ve passed on the street is a trans person, and that someone like seamy bride, who I think has been so mag animals and taking the high road to a level that I never could is the is the threat in all of this.

It's the same thing now, and it's the same thing I would argue around gets, and that is IT feels as if i'd like to see two classes in a Mandatory or three, i'd like to be circuit, or i'd be the most qualified circuitry education. And let me think, eighteen months. So effectively, there needs to be a class on adult.

My kid can do images, but he does not understand the interested on his credit card. I think there needs to be part of an adult class to teach Young people, especially Young man, how to express romantic interest while making other person feel safe in basic kind of life skills. I'd like to see a class on communications where IT says are a storytelling.

You have to understand mediums and how to communicate your ideas. I'd also like a course in critical thinking because there are different levels of mdash ous sockery. You know, infidelity is one thing, all right, i'm scandal or abusing, if you will, or taking advantage of a White house intern.

That's worse. That's worse in my opinion. Then, uh, you know, then having sex or relationships outside of your marriage and then in an entirely different fucking universe is having sex with minors.

These are not the same thing. And the problem is the populus goes, oh, it's a scandal, is a scandal. No, it's not. There is a difference.

And when people correctly say, in my view, or I think it's a point with arguing that people born, I was born, I didn't have the height nor the body mass to play collegiate level basketball or football. I was born with or without certain attributes that disqualified me from playing certain sports. I think there is a solid argument that if you are born with a penis IT disqualifies you from playing women sports or girl sports.

I think that is A A honest, thoughtful discussion. We should have passing legislation that is meant to do nothing but attempt to weirdly shame or show how anti trans you are by saying to a an elected member of congress, you cannot use the same bathroom as me. This is that a different level of mdash. Ous fucker y.

And my fear is, are so many points of warehouse coming out of dc that they all get grouped in the same into the same level of medications they're not and kids need and Young adults and adults need to understand that your whole point, or our advantage of the species is that we see different shades of grey. And when they go, they turn very dark or when they're worth a discussion, or they should just we should just have A A gag reflex. But this is my fear and that as we now live an intention economy and IT doesn't matter how stupid or how mean the continent is a created attention for you.

IT pays off and that he is now a republican, a rising republican star because she's a leader. There's some there there there's parents out there worried about their daughter being run over on the field hockey field by someone born with a penis. I think that is A A, A tangible, legitimate concern.

But they're sao represent representative mace. She's she's our woman. No, she's not. She's she's a Linda tious weird woman who is taking her precious capital and resources to actually do good things for her district to just be blatantly hostile and mean towards an individual. Your thoughts.

I agree with all of that, and I think that there is the beginning of potentially having electoral consequences. And this is why democrats want right. They want republicans to take the mask off essentially, and to expose themselves for being people who live by the cruelty is the point.

And if you remember the north Caroline, a bathroom bill controversy, this did not go well for republicans. This is not their concerns. Biological men in women sports is their concern that seventy percent of americans think that lea Thomas had no business being in that pool with those girls be as a competitive swimmer, but they don't care about using the bathroom.

Another, there are some people who do I get that? I see them in my twitter feed, hello, I see you. But in general, no one is concerned about ceramic bride. And you notice is only markey, Taylor Green, that's been running around screaming about this a alongside Nancy mace and if that's your wing woman for something like this, you know that you're probably doing something wrong. And you know people who work in Nancy, mrs. Office are destroying her online over this and saying there is more to come about how terrible this woman is, but I think it's just so ugly and I don't know, got on ceremony ride for being such a big person to be able to rise above.

I do think the democrats invited some of the spot shit by being so insane on some of these issues. I've go back to the um the cycling race, the women cycling race in north CarOlina where a transgender woman Austin collapse was twenty seven, basically finished five minutes before anyone else on one hundred and thirty seven malm race and the woman who had been who had been borne, a woman who had been trading her whole life, came in second SHE should have wanted.

And then immediately the far left started talking about you all these very basically was scared to come out and say, this is ridiculous. This is insane. What I didn't get is where feminists were.

Let me get this. Where does this all go if we allow this? IT means that every dollar metal and scholarship is only going to people born with penises. So where were the feminist? I just didn't get this.

Well, that was Martinia. naa. Toyota has been screaming about this for a long time like and I mean this is there have been and I know carer has spoken about this before as well. I mean, there have been evolutions within the L G B T Q plus movement that have you warned out certain groups like O G, groups like gay men and lesbian ans, and you moved to a different place, and perhaps they didn't think they were going. And I think that not saying things that are common sense, not reverting to the mean of, does this make sense as part of the problem.

And maybe there is some truth to, you know, if colleagues are the same, well, this is because you don't think about competition the same way that we do, because you get participation trophy for everything at your, know, your little liberal schools or whatever. And I think that if commoner had come out, and again, I think was a fundamental election, couldn't win against election people's feelings about the economy. But if you come out after that, the shark min ad was cut, which was a trizec, also an economic at right, like our money tax dollars are going to something that is nation that you don't approve of, just come out and say that is not the position of the democratic party.

Maybe some of those late deciders would have felt differently about us that we weren't out of our minds, whether that you know, because some of our loud dest voices like john Oliver did a whole monogue about IT last weekend or two weeks and he's gotten a lot of blow back on socky is spoken about IT inside or what's the big deal? The big deal is IT ruins competition and it's not fair like that you can be both things that a man can be inherently scary if you run into him in a dark ali. And also that is fine in competition against biological women. Like those two things contradict each other.

It's almost as outrages is the last thing we're going to start finish with. And that I got to be honest, I find this really fun. What do you think of this idea? Elon mask a buying M S M B C once? That makes me happy.

Yes, that makes me happy. What do you think? Yes, I think to be found on a large step stephney rule and Rachel mad out like every night, need each other to smoke cigarette tes and need ice cream and talk about line must in new boss. I.

I still have.

I think M C is quickly .

becoming already, which is the problem. I mean, what is this spin off? I really you've been discussing IT in your, on your other shows.

But what is the spin off of this? I mean, they are calling IT now a well funded startup. What is the future of M. S. M, B C?

Things are going be rolled up into a bad bank structure. Concave started at. These can be really good businesses.

They are shrinking businesses. But they and tonic cash law, when you need, is a different approach to cost faster than revenue grow. They can still be really good businesses.

But this is the pivotal moment, in my opinion, is that relates to the section between politics and media, is that you're going to see mean a really good show gets a million viewers on M S. B C. Average age seventy mostly.

Why women, those folks, you know what they buy, know what they don't buy, and they know who they voting for, are not voting for. So advertises in political campaigns are going to take all of that money and put IT into your truly into podcast where the average is thirty four. It's mostly male.

Those people are up. Those people are up for ground because are more about of the economy. And economics are a much more dynamics situation, a kind of pings back democrat, republican, on who they think will be Better for them economically.

But these companies are now distressed assets. They are melting ice cubes. I know a lot of people that have S.

B. C. The anchors are like pilots, uh, in the seventies, are hugely prestigious people like them. Their bang and stories is a Better where pilots for pan am, they know their numbers are limited.

They know that in about ten years, they're going to be flying amar rilla to dallas for spirit airlines at six A K A year that these are really declining asset. They can still make a lot of money. They still get incredibly talented people.

And anyways, back to this, I just think it's fucked on ilaria the 了 would buy msm c everyone would leave or everyone of any talent would leave。 And you were trying to make them into something else. I don't know. I got to be honest, I think we'd be fucked on a arise your thoughts.

I mean I don't know what I feel bad because I like a lot of the people at am A M bc and I feel like having elon mask as your boss is the worst. Um and I think it's important I would listen foxes up like our our viewer ship is through the roof, sense the election and the lead up to the election and I hope that continues because I want to be able to pay for my kids to go to the big apple circus as many times as .

possible that's called that's called region moderates. It's called podcasts.

Yes, great. You have literally you .

are the economic bellweather hair right now. A thirty four year old just tar love has more options than almost any personal media right now. And you chose a podcast with the dog, that's right.

That says, IT you, you could have had, you could have literally been prime time. You don't lie to me. You could have been prime time.

M, S N, B, C. And you decided to do this, a joy back. And donors broadcast. Here's the thing we're going like this isn't me making a hand sing the club and M.

S, M C.

We're going M, S, M, B C. And even even even you're good friends at fox. I mean that I used to say the toss magic and then I found out that i'll democrats think that's hateful you're the fastest towards that's the more politically correct ah you're the fastest to us. But anyways.

I don't mind that but what what happens and a lot of people will leave, obviously, but I do think that there is a real problem with the psyche of the average M S N B C viewer that they're like losing their minds, that john meko would even have a conversation with president.

And I IT since in to me.

like, don't you want any access also .

to the most .

powerful man and world?

They did the right thing.

might just be craving about IT. And yeah if they don't want to get audited, yes, same, I don't want to get audited and they have problem more interesting stuff going on and their tax returns an a like you should go in kiss thern. And that is the thing about having an entertainer as the president. He appreciated that if you shop and you say i'm done on, you're a beautiful color today, didn't keep your hair in tax, whatever he's gonna like you and probably leave you alone shade of wrong. Is that that sit .

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