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Conan O'Brien: 本期节目邀请到了喜剧传奇人物Eric Idle,讨论了他的新书《Spamalot Diaries》,以及他从Mike Nichols和Robin Williams身上学到的经验教训,以及他对失败的看法。Conan还继续调查了他祖母名字的来源。 Eric Idle: 在访谈中,Eric Idle分享了他创作《Spamalot》的经历,包括与Mike Nichols的合作,以及与其他Monty Python成员之间的分歧与合作。他还谈到了他童年经历对他的影响,以及他对失败的看法。他认为争论和冲突是创作过程中的重要组成部分,并分享了他从Robin Williams身上学到的与粉丝互动的经验。 Eric Idle: Eric Idle详细描述了《Spamalot》的创作过程,包括与导演Mike Nichols的合作,以及与其他Monty Python成员之间的冲突和合作。他强调了创作过程中的焦虑、冲突和反复修改的重要性,认为这些是不可避免的,也是创作成功的关键。他分享了与Mike Nichols的邮件往来,以及他们之间在创作理念上的分歧与妥协。他认为,一个好的创作者应该坚持自己的创作理念,同时也要能够与他人合作,并从冲突中学习和成长。 Conan O'Brien: Conan O'Brien 对 Eric Idle 的新书《Spamalot Diaries》给予了高度评价,认为这本书真实地展现了创作过程中的挑战和冲突,而不是一个简单的成功故事。他赞扬了 Eric Idle 的创作精神和坚持,以及他与 Mike Nichols 之间的合作。

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Why did Eric Idle feel 'horny' about being Conan O'Brien's friend?

Idle used the term 'horny' humorously to express his excitement and admiration for his friendship with Conan O'Brien.

What is the central theme of Eric Idle's new book, 'The Spamalot Diaries'?

The book focuses on the creative process and the challenges faced during the development of the musical 'Spamalot', offering insights into the collaborative and often contentious nature of bringing a project to life.

How did Eric Idle and Mike Nichols' relationship evolve during the making of 'Spamalot'?

Initially friends, their relationship became more professional and sometimes contentious as they navigated the creative differences inherent in directing and writing a musical together.

Why does Eric Idle believe that failure can be a noble and wonderful thing?

Idle reflects on the English cultural tendency to view failure as a learning experience and a step towards eventual success, drawing parallels to historical events like Dunkirk where retreat was seen as a strategic victory.

How did Robin Williams influence Eric Idle's approach to interacting with fans?

Williams taught Idle the importance of empathy and making fans feel valued, contrasting with Idle's earlier dismissive attitude, which he found to be lacking in genuine connection.

What does Eric Idle attribute the success of Monty Python to?

Idle suggests that Monty Python became the first 'mock and roll' group by integrating rock and roll elements into their comedy, paving the way for future comedy shows like 'Saturday Night Live' to incorporate similar styles.

How did George Harrison view the influence of the Beatles on Monty Python?

Harrison believed that the spirit of the Beatles, particularly their humor, was passed on to Monty Python, contributing to the group's unique and influential style.

What was the significance of the poster from 1963 that Conan O'Brien often saw at Eric Idle's home?

The poster was from Idle's first public performance at the Edinburgh Festival, marking the beginning of his career and the early stages of his meeting with future Monty Python members.

Why did Eric Idle include arguments and conflicts in 'The Spamalot Diaries'?

Idle wanted to portray the reality of the creative process, emphasizing that successful projects often involve conflict and the need for maintaining one's vision despite external pressures.

How did Eric Idle's relationship with his Python co-members evolve over time?

While they initially disagreed on comedic elements and chair choices, their relationships later faced strain due to business disagreements, particularly over money, leading to less frequent interactions over the years.

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Eric Idle shares stories about his childhood, including bizarre incidents involving dolls and his siblings.
  • Eric and his siblings played complicated games involving dolls.
  • One sibling cut off all the hair of three dolls and carved their name backwards on the skull.
  • Eric admits to doing terrible things, mostly to his brother Justin.

Shownotes Transcript

Comedian Eric Idle feels horny about being Conan O’Brien’s friend.

 

Eric returns to sit down with Conan once more to discuss his new book The Spamalot Diaries, lessons learned from Mike Nichols and Robin Williams, and cherishing failure as a wonderful prospect. Later, Conan continues his investigation into his grandmother’s namesake.

 

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