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I'm Adam Horowitz, a.k.a. Ad-Rock of the Beastie Boys. And I feel, I don't know, I feel like I would be, I'd be kind of bullshitting if I said, I mean, we've met before, but I certainly would like to be, but I'm not yet, friends with Conan O'Brien. You're saying you're okay with the idea of us being friends? I mean, yeah, I have enough friends. Fall is here, here they come.

Back to school, ring the bell, brand new shoes, walkin' blues, climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna be friends. Yes, I can tell that we are gonna be friends.

Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Joined by my fellow attorney, Sona Mobsession. Hello. And... That was my... Wow, yeah. That's how an attorney sounds? That was my attorney voice. Very good. Hello, yes. Okay. Objection. Just cost me... No. Oh. That's a judge. Sustained. Okay, no. Overruled, sir. All right. You got it. No one knows the law like you, Sona. Cool.

Of course, Matt Gourley. Hello, ladies and gentlemen of the jury. Okay, all right. Uh-oh, object. Object? I'm a caricature.

Now, I don't know much about such city things, but I know an honest man when I see one. Well, it's clear, Sonia, you don't know what a lawyer is. I don't. Yeah. And you, your only exposure is through cartoons, I guess. That's most things. Yeah. Maybe one children's production of 12 Angry Men. But who am I to talk? I've lived off of caricatures for many years. Do you think you'd be a good lawyer? Do I? Yeah. This is a true story. I had an uncle.

who always wanted me to be a lawyer because he was a lawyer. And he was always saying, you'd be a great lawyer. And you should do. And your mom's a lawyer. And my mom's a lawyer. And so he was saying, you should be a lawyer all the time. And he was pushing. And then I graduate college. I start becoming a comedy writer. I'm actually starting to have success at it. And he would still say, you should be a lawyer. Yeah.

And I would think, huh, I'm actually, this is doing okay. Then I'm working on Saturday Night Live. Then I'm getting on camera a little bit. And he's still saying you should be a lawyer. And then I'm on The Simpsons. And I'd see him and he'd still bring it up. Then I get the late night show. And I swear to God, he called the

The head because because he had he had gone to the same college as the head of NBC. Oh, so he suddenly didn't know him and they were years apart. But he suddenly got his number and he called him and he said, what is all this about Conan doing this late night show? That guy should be a lawyer. Oh, my God. No, he didn't. He did.

No, he didn't. So I get a call from Bob Wright, who's like, you know, runs NBC for General Electric. And he was laughing. He was like, this guy just got on the phone and yelled at me and said, Conan should be a lawyer. And I'm like, yeah, I know. You should have told him he should have been a comedian. Yeah.

You should have a late night show. But his argument was, you know, if you're a lawyer, you get to be your own director and your own actor and your own script. And I was like, no, no, no. Trust me, very few people have late night shows. Did he ever come around? I don't think so. I think it was always a mystery to him. And to be fair, you know, I just came from people that knew nothing about show business and didn't care about show business. So I think...

It was it was just felt like, what the hell is he doing? What is this nonsense? Knock it off. Go to B.C. law and be a lawyer. And and, you know, I'm sure there are some people out there that would say that would have been a better use of my time. But yeah, it was just that was interesting. Did you ever want to be a lawyer? No, no. I always thought I could.

I just, I'm sorry. What the fuck? I would have done a really great job at being a lawyer. No, you couldn't do that. Why do you think you could be a lawyer and I couldn't be? I didn't say I could be a lawyer. I said that someone else wanted me to be a lawyer. You should not be a lawyer. I could be a lawyer. You wouldn't show up at the, your client would be sitting there. How fiercely have I fought traffic tickets? Oh, sure. That's just a small, small glimpse. I'll give her that. She's amazing.

And she used to miss whole days at work because she was in traffic court and she would admit up front. Oh, yeah. No, I was doing 95 miles an hour in a children's parking lot in elementary school. And they caught children's park.

parking lot, you know, whatever. And then and then you'd be you'd go there and you'd say all this bullshit to the judge and you'd get off. I would win. Yes. That's what we need. We need the W's and I would bring the W's. Yeah, the wins. I'd be one of those billboard lawyers and everybody would like sweet James. Yeah. OK, like Jacob and Rami. But here's the problem. I think you're very motivated when you've

Someone's done you wrong. The man has given you a ticket. Then that gets your Armenian blood boiling. OK, true. Armenian. Because you are Armenian. OK, let's not take that too far. Me, Armenian. Don't label me. But it does. I've seen you when you see red. You go into this this special mode. Yeah. Where you have superpowers.

I'm talking about you represent someone else. Yeah. And you're supposed to be there at eight o'clock in the morning and have done all the preparation. But somebody took some gummies and somebody kept the judge waiting. I disagree. And someone when the judge said, Ms. Movsesi, and you're like, get off my ass, judge, and shove that gavel where the sun don't shine. How's your Armenian blood doing now? It's really boiling.

boiling right now. I think I would crush it. You haven't seen me on jury duty. Do you know how good I am at jury duty? That's a totally different thing. Shut up, Zach. I object. You're out of order. I object. You're out of order. Miss Movsesian, stop telling people to shut up in the courtroom. I had notes

I had mental notes for the people who were the two lawyers. I was like, I could do what they're doing. Are you kidding? No, but then you'd have to go do it. And all I'm saying is that you're a free spirit. And once there's a task given to you, there's part of you that rebels. And that's why you work with me. I'm just trying to think right now, if I was in serious legal trouble, which of you two assholes I'd want to represent. Obviously. Obviously.

Him? I'm taking his fame out of it. Eduardo's pointing to me. Oh, first of all, no, don't take my fame out of it. I want to be able to stand up and go, ladies and gentlemen, I'll be representing the defense. Of course, you all know me from my 30 years experience. You should be a lawyer. I thought you said you're not famous in this scenario. No, I said I insist on being famous. Oh, no, no, no. You got to do it not famous. Before we examine the evidence, let's look at my 10th anniversary special. Okay.

Jury, yay, this stuff holds up, yay. The judge, I find you guilty of being hilarious.

Thank you. Thank you. All right. I will fight for you. Yes. Let's move it on. Let's move on to the show. My guests today are the founding members of the Grammy Award winning rap hip hop group Beastie Boys. They recently released a 30th anniversary edition of their classic album Ill Communication. I'm absolutely thrilled that they are here today. Adam Adrock, or if it's Michael, Mike D. Diamond. Welcome. Welcome.

Yeah. Yeah. So you're okay with the idea of us being friends? Is that bad? It's kind of like I'm trying to sell you a Kia. I have a Kia. A used Kia that's not in great shape. I have a used Kia that's not in great shape. You have a, okay, so. Yeah. But that would mean you wouldn't want another one. No.

That's the problem. I'm trying to go higher at a Kia. I just knew it. I just I just like dirty Kia When you say dirty is there just a lot of crud inside the car so gross it's just can I can I interject? You don't even have to ask you may It's like very disgusting like old, you know caked up like old cereal and stuff inside. I don't eat cereal in my car. I

I'm not an animal. What is all that food crap? There's other food, but I don't like, I don't go to my car with a bowl of cereal. Guys, I was just, I was just back in, just back in Boston and my older brother, Neil, I went for a ride in his car. It's the dirtiest car I've seen. It had just crud caked on the inside. And at one point, there's a little panel that if you push, it opens up. It's not the glove compartment, but it's just for, I don't know, just some Tic Tacs, whatever you might want. I pushed on it, opened up, maybe 19 packets of ketchup. God.

from a fast food restaurant. And I said, what the fuck? And he went, it's nice. If you need ketchup, it's right there. And they're free when you go through a drive-thru. So is this the kind of animal you are? Can we, like, move on from this? Jeez, you guys.

Okay. So you guys are so far. Yeah. Got some ketchup. We have more important things. Uh, we have more important things to talk about. We have met, uh, you guys, uh, performed, uh, on my show in the past. You did, uh, an interview. I remember bumping into you a couple of times in New York. Uh, I,

I was always super happy because I was a big fan of the music, but I also always found you guys, Beastie Boys, really funny. That was in the music, it was in the videos, and I always thought that that was kind of integral to what you were doing. Am I correct about that? Yeah. We talk about it, and I feel like actually it's a thing that a lot

I don't know. This is maybe dangerous territory here, but I think a lot, like there's a lot of our audience that doesn't get that or hasn't at different points, different junctures over time. I don't see how that's possible because from the very beginning,

When you guys first hit the scene, I remember thinking, they're funny. Like your early videos, and this is years before I got on my late night show, I remember thinking, these are funny guys. They're New York funny. Am I wrong? It feels very New York. Well, yeah. We're from New York. We're from New York. Well, that's all the time we have.

This is called where people are from. We've established that. All I do is geolocate people and then we kind of wrap it up. But New York, we have it. Okay. Blay, send us off to the printer. No problem. The guy who doesn't know how to podcast works.

You know, we met in high school. We were friends. We've just been friends this whole time. And what do you do with your friends? You just have, you know, you're supposed to just have fun. Yeah. And so we kind of, when we were, you know, in high school making music, it was fun. And so we figured we'd just go with that. Yeah. But could I add on? You don't need to ask permission. You can just go. No, I just...

You don't understand. Otherwise, he's going to be like, Mike, I was speaking here. So by me asking permission, I'm taking that away from happening. Maybe I do need new friends. That's why I'm here. Because Mike is a pain in the ass.

the end. Oh my God. I asked to do this by myself. No, but I think like we, we grew up at a certain time also in New York where it was like, Hey, we come, you know, Adam and I, anyway, Yowk was an only child, but we come from family. So I think like there's this necessity when you're like at this, at a New York city table, read culturally Jewish books,

where everybody is speaking on top of each other. Like you kind of have to figure out how to be funny to survive. Otherwise, yeah, it's just your way of dealing with the world. And then I think, I don't know, I remember from like a really young age, like we always, when we first became friends, like we all had Monty Python's big...

big red book, which was blue. The cover was blue. That was like as important to us as like any punk rock record or something. You know what I mean? That was like a very high, that was like just sublime.

something that was important it was important to us to aspire to be this is like a funny like that I always started out getting into music you know through the Beatles as a kid but I always remembered and then became crazily into their lore and learning everything about them the thing I always remember is whenever you ask like George Martin or something when he first met the Beatles what grabbed you about them he never said it was the music

He said it was their sense of humor. And I always thought that's not possible. They were, it must have been the music. And he went, no, the music was, music was okay. It was their sense of humor. And then of course they were, they were integrated. It's, it's part of the same, I don't know. It's, it's part of the language of the music is the comedy to me anyway. No, I agree. And the Beatles were huge. Peter Sellers, they were like huge fans.

Goon show fans, yeah. You know, and that you could see once you kind of like, you geek out enough and you do the nerd searches of the goon show on YouTube and stuff, and you realize like a lot of their humor, you know, they were students of that. Yeah. For sure, or contemporaries. You guys have always said...

Adam started the band. He was the initiated. How did he initiated it? Was he the one that said we could do this? I wasn't there. I don't know. I was. Yeah.

Were you ever in the Beastie Boys? Yeah. Briefly. There's videos. I'll vouch. I'll vouch. I'll vouch for you. You were there 88 to 89, I remember. Yeah, yeah. And you were replaced by a lookalike. It was like Fast and Furious 7. Yeah. Well, Adam, before he was in Beastie Boys, he was in a band called The Young and the Useless. But before there was Beastie Boys, I was in this band called The Young Aborigines, which...

I guess it's probably a name that would get us canceled. Is that an appropriationist name? Just keep going. I'm just saying, to be honest about these things, full disclosure, right?

Cultural appropriation. Again, I wasn't there. I was in a band called Cultural Appropriation. That would be good. Yeah, we killed it. Anyway, so Young Irish is, Yauch was our, like everything. He was our road crew tour manager. He was the only one who knew actually how to make things work, honestly.

And we played two gigs in one night and then we broke up. And it was John Berry, who was the first guitar player before Adam from Beastie Boys, and myself and Kate Schellenbach, who is the drummer, the original drummer from Beastie Boys. She played percussion in Young Aborigines and I played drums. But then Jaak really, it's not even so much he wanted to be in that band, but he wanted to be in the band. So he's like,

We're starting a new band. There was John, myself, and him, and then Kate, and then I was the one who I drew the short straw, and so I had to sing, which I really didn't want to do. Wait, the short straw is the singer?

In my case, I didn't want, I would, I definitely would have way rather at that time would have rather played drums. Yeah. That would have been my ideal, but it didn't work out that way. Wasn't to be. No. Anyway, so then, but yeah, it was, I mean, he was the visionary in terms of like, we're going to do this and Adam and I could go back and forth in many, many,

We could talk story for hours about how Jaak was a master manifester. I mean, at that age, I definitely didn't know what the word manifest meant. But he was really someone who was just fucking completely determined about

to do something and would get it done i think beyond probably our i don't know we're a little more like oh yeah seems like a good idea to us we'll do it or just like you know you you're with your friends you're like oh we should do this thing and like nobody like does anything after just we should do this thing but then he'd show up with like a camera and film like oh we're actually i guess we're actually yeah do the thing that we're talking about thank you yeah it's like you know that thing that you're with your friends and they're like

How many times you're with your friends and somebody says the crazy idea and you're like, yeah, OK, that just becomes one of the thousand. Yeah, it never, ever happens. Ninety nine point nine percent of kids your age say we should do this thing. And then they smoke more weed and they don't do anything that. And then it's that you're that's that's I don't know. I was going to go somewhere with that. Go ahead.

You have to single out the potheads? I know. Why are you attacking the potheads? I don't know. I feel like math kids, you know, like...

You're right. They're not always doing the stuff. You're right. They're always like doing the crazy ideas. You know what? You're right. You know? I apologize. The potheads are smoking the pot. The math kids are doing the math. I think you're right. And I'd like to apologize. Okay. And I'm also apologizing. I'm sorry. Why is she looking at you? I want to apologize to Sona because she's... I partake. You don't just partake. And I'm unapologetic. I get things done. You're probably fucked up now.

You have twins. I do. They're so young, but they're also why I do it. So it's okay. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah. I had the chance to have a really nice, lovely conversation with Adam on the Warner Brothers lot. I'm

I want to say it was about a year before he passed away. He was there directing, I believe, a video, some project. And I could tell he wasn't well, but I was coming out of the commissary. He was going into the commissary and we just had like this nice bonding conversation.

Wasn't that long, but it was when we just first showed up at the Warner Brothers lot to do that iteration of whatever the hell we were doing and seemed like an absolutely lovely guy. But it's always been clear to me that you call him the manifesto or the catalyst to the person who's

got all the ingredients you just need someone to create the friction or set the you know get the thing moving and it felt like in in you guys are saying that was maybe an adam yeah but it's be it's it's honestly beyond that because it really was like he was the guy who would have the craziest idea that anybody would possibly have in the room and then like exactly what adam said then show up the next day with the equipment that would make it all possible and then you

you're doing it. We didn't do all of the stuff that he was saying, though. Thankfully, yeah. He wanted to do a tour underwater and luckily that never... How was that going to work? He really, really thought about it, had drawings and everything. There was a lost city of Atlantis fascination that went on for a while. Actually, actually. Yeah.

Did he believe the lost city of Atlantis existed? No, it wasn't about Atlantis. Oh, I see. It's just this idea of like having this underwater, you know, presenting we are doing on tour in an underwater environment. And granted, I would give it to him. Had we done it, nobody else has ever done it prior. And there's probably a lot of good reasons for that.

Yeah, logistically, it's just a lot. There's no oxygen down there. No, with the tank, and then you have to wrap at the same time with the oxygen. Yeah, I mean, and call me old-fashioned, but I think when I was a kid, I was told, like, you know, water, electricity, kind of keep it too separated. That's never been proven. Yeah. Never been proven. Yeah.

It's just more bullshit. Yeah, yeah. I always appreciated that the music is clearly was so solid and so fantastic. And I want to talk about Ill Communication because when that came out, it was such a soundtrack. I just listened to it a lot at the time. And it's one of those records, albums that becomes the soundtrack for that time in your life, which is, I think, a hard thing to achieve. But I think everyone...

who was my age or obviously younger, who heard that at the time was like, okay, these are the songs that sort of...

imprint on us at that time. And I remember I was, I guess I would have been in New York at the time. And I know that you guys, you came from New York. We've talked about that. And then you, and you've said before that the New Yorker grew up in, like the Boston I grew up in, there was no, there's no iPhones. You're not listening to music that way. And this is probably much more true in New York than it was in Boston. Music's coming at you from all these different places out on the street. And that that was,

instrumental no pun intended to how you guys formed um yeah i mean i don't think our story is unique you know that unique i feel like that's sort of how things especially bands start you know you're into this thing and you're hearing things and you find friends that are into the same sort of thing and

You move along that way. But something special about being in New York is that you do hear it. We talked about it a lot. Like, you walk down the street, just getting from here to there, you're hearing music from the pizza place. You're hearing somebody drives by with a radio or whatever. Like, you're hearing all this music. And I feel like our time was an interesting time to grow up in the mid-70s to hear radio. It was a great time for radio, right? Like, we had...

The one station would play like David Bowie and the stylistics and, you know, and whatever it'd be like, everything would be playing. And so all of those influences and in New York, you'd go uptown, you hear like, you know, when we were little kids, we'd hear salsa and boogaloo coming from radios and, you know, punk rock up from the East side or whatever, you know what I mean?

All these different sounds and it formed us as kids growing up. And so we took that with us. And I think, you know, us as friends and like we all do as friends, like we it's not just about the one thing like we all talk about the TV shows. So like,

we write rap lyrics so of course we're going to talk about chef boyardee and we're going to talk about the odd couple and we're going to talk about all this dumb stuff that's i mean not dumb pretty dumb but it was important to us genius when you look back at it now like we all sure like oh my god the odd couple is one of the best shows ever created but i i appreciate it too because there were so many you drop in so many things like you've had a rhyme you know that

because I think we're a similar vintage, I remembered when you guys rhymed Rod Carew. And I'm like, who's talking about Rod Carew anymore? You know, pinch on the neck of Mr. Spock. I just, there's all this stuff that was evocative of my growing up in the 70s and your kind of respect for it. I remember too, when I would, when,

when I would go to New York, this is something that was also true, is that the times I lived there, when you got in a cab, you were listening to the music that that cab driver was listening to, which often was not top 10. So anytime you entered a space, you were inundated. People

people talk about how we're siloed now. Everyone's listening to the music that they exactly want to hear through their, you know, iPods. AirPods. AirPods. Ear goggles. iPods. Yeah.

Yes. Okay. I'm sorry. You don't have to exacerbate it. Sorry. You could just sort of help me. You said iPods. You meant AirPods. Yes. All right. This is why we don't get anything from Apple. This is why they don't send me any shit. The ear thingies. I mispronounce Ferrari all the time. But anyway, that's, I think, you're part of a stew. You have no control over it. I think New York was unique. I have to admit, I didn't...

I only know New York, but I do think New York, because you had music blasting at you from all sides and all different kinds of music. So I have to think that at that time that was different than Boston or Rhode Island or anywhere else on the East Coast and beyond. You know, New York really was the place that exists probably in the whole globe at that time where you had all this different music happening at the same time, all being blasted at you, you

You know, and then I think also then it's an interesting thing, like what you brought up that I don't know, I guess it's maybe just that we all grew up in the 70s. Like as kids, we were left alone, like literally left alone. And so we all and there were only three channels or four or five channels or, you know, it was a huge deal. I remember my when my parents got the cable box. That was huge.

That was huge.

and I've mentioned this before, but we would watch what came in, meaning what did we have good reception on? And once it was a Catholic mass, but the picture was really good. So my brothers and I, it's just like, because we don't have the palette that people have today. And we're just thinking like, well, this is not what we want to watch, but God- - Is it better or worse than F Troop? Do you know what I mean? Like we're just watching, it's just the electricity. It's like, it's just all we need is the electricity. - Don't diss F Troop.

That's Rat Patrol. I don't know any rant. Mr. Ed, I don't know any random show. You

You know what I mean. No offense. I'm so happy you mentioned Rat Patrol. Three Nazis fighting three American GIs in the desert and it's only the same six. Every fucking episode. That's the show? That's the show. They're just driving around in the desert shooting each other. What was the Colonel Clink show? That's Hogan's Heroes. Hogan's Heroes. I think that's pretty...

that like every day after school we'd watch Hogan's Heroes, which is like this, you know, sort of like... It's funny shit, yeah. It's a comedy. A comedy about... About concentration camps. A POW camp. Not a concentration camp, a POW camp. You're right, you're right. So that's why it was funny. Jesus Christ. ♪

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Okay, that's weird. Or that last minute local getaway when you just really need to get out of the city for the weekend but don't want to deal with the airport. You know, I have to say, I've used Airbnb a couple of times and it always makes me feel like I'm at home even when I'm away. Do you have that? I do too. I mean, I have, you know, I have two small kids who are loud and so when I'm in a hotel, I feel a little uncomfortable. Well, you're loud too. Oh, yes. Okay.

Okay, yeah, we're all loud. And then in an Airbnb, I just feel much more comfortable traveling. You're not a self-conscious. No. Yeah, and also you're staying in someone's home. It's got that vibe of comfort, relaxation, normalcy instead of some stuffy hotel. Yeah. I don't want a mint on my pillow. Yeah.

Hey, Blay, you use Airbnb, don't you? I do. I love it. And I will say, staying in someone's place really does add a lot. I'm a huge Stephen King fan, and the last Airbnb I stayed in had this book, From a Buick 8, which is one of the few Stephen King books I haven't read. So I actually started reading it in the Airbnb. It was pretty awesome. And you know what I do sometimes when I'm at an Airbnb? I often travel with a picture of myself in a frame. Oh, boy. And I take it out, and I put it up, and it feels like home. Yeah.

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You couldn't have known the scale of the success when you come out, first album, you're touring with Madonna in 1985. If you're going to tour with Madonna in 1985, I'm thinking is the time. I mean, it just must have been, you're in the center of an insane whirlwind. You couldn't have calculated that. It was pretty crazy for her. Think about it. She talks about it. She never got over it. Think about it. Yeah.

But it was, though, I think, where we were on that tour and it was a huge deal and totally absurd that we got asked to do that tour. That's a bit of a story unto itself, which Adam could tell or I could tell. Either of us could tell. Or you just read the book and it's in there. Yeah. Which would make what we're doing now completely irrelevant. Yeah.

What if this whole thing was just read the book and then we just end it? No, you don't have to go into it. I'm just saying. No, Madonna, but my point is actually that she booked a tour and she was playing like theaters. And by the time the tour was actually happening, she was so beyond selling out a theater in terms of stature. Like she literally went, I think, by the tour. Before the tour was finished, I think she was like on the cover of Time magazine or something. So it was like she was this...

She was on her way to being a cultural phenomenon, but then she really was one by the end of that tour. Is it a coincidence that we were on that tour? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. All I'm saying is before you guys signed up, she's in theaters. Small theaters. Yeah.

I mean, she used to be at the same... We used to play at the same clubs in New York. Yeah. I'm just saying. And then no one ever talks about that part of the story. You're right. In the podcast era, this is compelling information. Well, actually, it is. Because she's floundering around. She's in theaters. It's going nowhere. You add the mixture, the key element of the Beastie Boys. Right. Suddenly, she's on the cover of Time Magazine, which at that...

at that moment was a big deal. Of course, now no one knows what you're talking about. You don't know who Joe Franklin is, do you? Yes, I do. We were on the Joe Franklin show in 83, 84? Joe Franklin, just for our listeners. Yeah, how do you explain Joe Franklin? Joe Franklin, a guy who never should have had a show, but magically did. He name-dropped everybody in show business. He had a small, almost would today look like a cable access station.

Show yeah, and he sat there and his show was on for 40 years And he had like a real studio in New York like you'd go and it was like very but I guess but Iconic you're more of a student than I am of this stuff, but he's like it's vaudevillian Yeah, and a lot of his references would go over the head of anybody here, but Joe Franklin is an iconic New York institution and

I can't imagine the Beastie Boys on the Joe Franklin show. It was so great. And then at the end, he was like, well, you know, fellas, whatever he called it. He's like, I see big things happening to you since you are going to be on this show. And he was basically like, you know, you're giving the Joe Franklin bump. It was pretty great. It was pretty great. You're like, I don't know. Next thing you know...

Yeah, let me go and tour Madonna. So what you're saying, Joe Franklin blesses you, then you guys bless Madonna, and then Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yeah. Oh, true. You're right. It all goes back to Joe Franklin. Seven, you guys have seven platinum-selling albums.

And that's thanks to a man named Joe Franklin. What's with the other ones that aren't platinum? Because we made more than seven records. I have bad news for you. No, I don't. I mean, everyone's got a couple of duds. Everyone. I like them. I love that your mind works that way. Because that's exactly. It's what didn't work.

There's seven that did, but what didn't work? Yeah, that's exactly how mine works. I didn't know a music insider. Would you like some musical insider information? Yes, I would. So we were at our studio here in California, and I was smoking the pot. This was a long time ago. Oh, God. I'm trying to discourage kids from doing this. We had a gold record on the wall. It was our record, Paul's Boutique. And I was looking at it,

And I could see it has our label and I could see that it has whatever, like nine songs on the one side. And I was looking at the actual gold record. It only had four songs on it. And I was like, wait, wait, you guys. And so we opened it and we put the record on the, on a record player and gold record. And it was like, I mean,

broke the glass and took the record out of the thing. And it was somebody doing like piano versions of like Barry Manilow, like feelings and yeah. Yeah. Just some other shit. When someone has a gold record, they just take any record. Apparently. I don't know about anybody else. But I'm telling you. I'd like to think

I think that for, you know, Barbara Streisand, Donna Summer, like a real star that it was actually their record. In our case, it was some, like somebody that was like. I'm saying this is a documentary. Whoever's record that was.

I'm just talking. Yeah. This should lead to like a quiz show kind of investigation because I think all gold records need to be examined. They all need to be recalled and you need to go to every, you know, and you should check them out because it's probably not their record. And if it's not on a massive scale, recount. It's a recount. Yeah. We need to recall them all. Yeah.

This is the gold and platinum plaques. Maybe the most important thing facing America right now. Oh, yeah. At least for the next couple of months. OK. All our energy should go. Well, I think you can be a big part of that next time. You know, say Lady Gaga is here. You could you could, you know, really urge her to do the same. You guys have come to the right place. I have incredible power in the music industry. I didn't know you could play those.

I just thought they were decorative. I didn't know either. I didn't know. I hadn't thought about it. Well, it turned out it basically seemed like, I guess, you know, somebody's record was spray painted gold or something. I don't know. Because who would? Who would break the glass and put it on a turntable? They weren't counting on you guys. You were the X Factor. We were the sleuths.

that uncovered this incredible crime ring. This could be an action movie with John Cena. Oh. I'm just saying. John Cena and The Rock? The Rock breaks the glass. We can't afford The Rock. No, no. One of them. We can't do both. Just stick to John Cena. We can get John Cena because he does commercials. Jason Momoa?

Too much. Oh, all right. But how about this? Jason Statham is the bad guy who makes the plaques. This is way too hot for me right now. I love it. I want in on this and I'd like to be a producer, but also I'd like to be in the film. Can I just say this now that we're in Hollywood, California? Anybody that makes action movies, I just want to be in the background during an action scene. I want to get pushed into a thing of fruit. Okay.

That's what I just want to be in a movie where like they're chasing and somebody pushes me into like a fruit cart. Why fruit? I think Adam Adrock would like to be pushed into fruit in the background of a... But wait a minute. Fruit, is that like a safe landing? Like what is... It's just always the thing where like people are walking and they're like, whoa, and the car comes and they get pushed into a thing of fruit. Well, there's always the chase scene that goes through like the hotel kitchen to the secret back entrance. This was my coffee reference to Cafe. Yeah, yeah.

I'll see that that is done. I'll see that that happens. Just the listeners. Yeah. That and please, yeah, help us uncover this platinum plaque. Yeah, gold. Controversy. It wasn't platinum in the story. It wasn't. You're right. It was gold. I'm sorry. Stickler for the details. I'm going to say probably the same for the platinum. Yeah, who knows? Maybe it's a status thing. Like gold, you're like, eh. Just spray paint that. That album by the Parkins family. Platinum, maybe they had a better...

eye for detail. Guys, you moved to LA. What year do you move to LA? I'm going to get this thing back on track. We came out here to record Paul's Boutique because we were working with these producers called the Dust Brothers who are from out here. And then we'd had this whole falling out with Russell Simmons and Def Jam and we just wanted to get away from like the New York scene.

that we were in. And so we were coming out here to record that album. Now, did you have, because I'll admit to having an attitude a bit about coming to LA. Did you have an attitude about LA? Yeah, I definitely had an attitude, but then we got here. I think I still do. Because I'm not good about driving. Are you good about actually driving to all this stuff? I'm one of the best drivers in the world. Well, aside from the drive, but do you actually make the effort? Like, do you go downtown to the art?

arts district oh downtown oh god no no I live in a bubble that's my point it's like LA it's my house and then there's like a frozen yogurt place six minutes away and I have my playlist and

And that's it, right, Sona? Yeah, you don't like to leave. I've never seen the sun. So fro-yo, that's it. No, I do try. And one of the things that was good for me is a bunch of years ago when I started doing live sets in preparation for something, just going to these weird theaters that I didn't know about, Dynasty Typewriter Hotel, places downtown. And then I got into a thing where a couple of friends of mine and I decided, let's just...

eat at diners and restaurants that were established before we were born, which was 1963. So we just ended up finding all these places that had been in, and they had to be in continuous operation. So we'd find these weird places to eat in downtown LA that had sawdust on the floor that the cops in the 1940s used to frequent. And so then I started to really appreciate there's tons of amazing stuff in LA, but it didn't come naturally.

I have a lot of things that I need to... I wish I should have written them down. Wait, which was the sandwich place with the... Oh, Philippe's. So I'm wondering... Was Philippe's on your list? Was your diner thing a specific dish or was it just... No, not a specific dish. Find a place that was in... My friends Rodman and Greg and I would say it's got to be in... Big Rod? Not Big Rod. No, not Big Rod. I've seen his rod. It's fine. Oh, come on.

Why did I go to a dick joke? Yes. Well, I'll tell you why. I have two moves. It's a dick joke and they're sitting on marijuana. That's the two. Potheads. Potheads. Potheads and dick jokes. That's all I've got. If you look at my milieu, my oeuvre, that's all there is. All right. So it's just about the diner and the thing. Okay. Do you know what the Mille Miche is? Is that what it is?

Is that what it's called? No, Mille Mille. Is it? You're trying to... Mille Mille is what you're trying to say. So you're the best driver in the world. I went to Italy this summer, a little vacation. I asked Mike Diamond, I said, what do you think of Bologna? He's like, I went through there on the Mille Mille or whatever. Mille...

And I had to Google it because I didn't know what the hell he was talking about. Mike, go. I sort of luck into things in my life. And one of the things I have lucked into. You're here, aren't you? Yeah, I am. See, see, huh? High five. Or at joke? Yeah, one of the things I got asked to do was this classic, this article.

rally race that runs every year in Italy and has since like basically the birth of the automobile. - So you did that? - So I did that. And I had an incredible dinner in Bologna. How good was the food in Bologna? 10 out of 10. - 10 out of 10. - Yeah. - Was it Italian food?

So much Italian food. Oh my God. There's like Italian food everywhere. I just would be funny. I just would have liked it if it wasn't Italian food. I did get Chinese one night. We did have Chinese one night. And? Uh,

Were you a Chinese one night in Bo'an? We were just rolling the dice. I don't know. Switch it up. We'd been there for like three weeks. I was like, yeah, Chinese. I didn't see that, but still. I mean, that's wow. Yeah, that's a high risk maneuver. So you've been interested in acting. I would say when I first would watch the videos, I thought it's like there was almost like a cross in the road where you could have

It could be music, but you very much seem like a comedic actor, performer that felt like that was in your bones. Almost like a dead-end kid kind of thing. I don't know if you know that. Yeah. A lot of people want me to go solo, for one. Side note. Right. I couldn't do that to them. Do you still have the letters? Yeah. Wallpaper. Yeah.

You know, yeah, that's what I thought I would do when I was a kid. I wanted to be an actor. And then I did a couple of things. I hate the hours. Yeah. I know what it's like for comedy. I mean, but acting itself is it's a hassle. You're not going to talk about Ronald. Well, we can. I feel like that's your opportunity to jump in if you want. All right. Well, Adam had a.

Very great role in a great TV show with an esteemed actor, Edward Woodward. The show is called The Equalizer. Long before Denzel Washington discovered said property. Right. I remember this TV show. And yeah. And then Adam played a rich kid.

gone bad. We were all, how old were we? 17 or something? 16, 17? And the highlight of the whole show was in busting the drug crime ring, Edward Woodward takes this silver chain, I think it was silver, from around his neck and he throws it around the villain and lassoes him.

With his necklace. Like Wonder Woman. Yeah. It was a very Wonder Woman-like act. The episode is called Mama's Boy. And I was Mama's Boy. You were Ronald. And my first line, professional acting line, there's kids that want to get into the back room and I go, yo, chill. That was my first thing that I did. And.

And at the end, the guy has a sword and the equalizer comes in. He's like, oh, you caught me red handed. He throws that out and the sword goes flying. Yeah. Anyways. That's when the necklace goes. I don't, you know. But you had kind of like a rubber faced comedian. I could have been. There's so many things I could have done. I mean, I still could. Are you offering me a job? Yeah.

Yes. Yes, I am. I'm over in Hollywood. Should I have a show? Like what? Like I want to know like stand up or? No, I don't think it's stand up. I think it's. Yeah. But it's an acting. Like a show. It's an acting. That's the problem. That's what you don't like. You don't want the hours. That suck. Yeah. Yeah. You got to stick around. You got to hang around. You got to stay in your trailer. Someone knocks on the door and says be another two hours. That's not for you. No. I get tired.

You know? Well, there's a bed in the trailer. I know, but then you got to wake up. It's just a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot of hard work. It's really hard work. Mike, no? No, I agree. A lot of work. But I'm going to also say stand-up, not for you. Because stand-up is really a lot of work. You have to write your bits. You have to keep coming up with new bits and then keep trying out the bits. I'm going to say you have to leave your house. That part sucks. Yeah. Yeah.

So you want something where you stay in your house and you sleep most of the time. I'd like it. Okay. I can help you. I can figure this out. Does it feel to you guys now that you're looking back... Rubber face? Yeah. Yeah.

He would come around. Yeah, but what is... It's the way you can kind of bend your face in this great way. It reminded me of... Why am I blanking on his name, that fantastic actor from the Dead End Kids? Satch? Yeah, Satch, but who played him? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I see. Gorsy? No, Leo Gorsy. No, no, Leo Gorsy, not Leo Gorsy.

The guy who's not Leo Gorcey. Yeah. I know who you're talking about. Think of it. But anyway, I swear to God, you were channeling him sometimes. We actually... Am I right? An old friend of mine, Max Perlick, was obsessed with the Dead End Kids. We used to talk about it a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Leo Gorcey. He was the main guy. He was like the leader. Leo Gorcey was like the ringleader. And then there was...

Help me. Help me somebody. They're on it. Yeah, I see. Three of us are Googling, frantically Googling right now. Yeah, yeah. Okay, well. All right, so I'm not the lead guy. I'm like the goofy sidekick. I don't know. I swear to God, I got a dead-end kids vibe the first time I saw you and in the different videos and...

you know, I just thought like, okay, that's a possible avenue for this gentleman. Clearly what you chose was spectacular. We got lucky it worked out. Yeah. Hunt's Hall? Hunt's Hall. Hunt's Hall. Yes, that's it. Hunt's Hall. Hunt's Hall. You got a Hunt's Hall vibe. And I mean that as a great compliment because I think he's one of the all-time comedy greats. So there you go. Thank you. Thank you.

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I did have something I wanted to say to go back to what you want to say, which was something on topic. You were talking about the comedy aspect of our band and stuff. And we talked about it's like when we would write lyrics and we'd write our rhymes. You know, one of the most important things was to say something that would make the other two laugh. Right. Or the other two to be like, oh, that, you know.

I mentioned Rod Carew and they'd be like, that would get something inspired, you know, whatever. But the main thing was to make each other laugh. And we put out a record. People seem to respond to that. And so it's like anything in life is,

you get a response and you just sort of go with that thing. Yes. Yeah. That was our writing room, right? Like we was just, we'd just sit around with these, you know, our spiral notebooks. Sometimes the composition books, the bound ones. Just loose paper. But, and,

But anyway, that was the biggest, that was the most nerve wracking thing was like getting the approval of these two guys, you know, Adam and R.A.P. Yao in the room of either the laugh or the, oh, that shit is good. You know, that was the thing. After that, it didn't really matter. It's so funny because to think about you guys, the three of you sitting there with composition books, loosely, whatever, working it out.

is makes perfect sense to me as someone who's been in, not that, it's a similar process, but in a different world, different mind shaft, but it makes perfect sense to me, but it also seems absurd. Of course, you'd have to do that. Of course, you'd have to sit around and figure this out, writing it down.

To me, the ingredient that I think, the magical ingredient that you guys had was, it always was clear to me that you were having fun. That there was something really joyous about the music, the process, three friends doing this together, making each other laugh, and getting to do this on a grand scale. That felt like the magic elixir to the whole thing. It didn't have to have a job. It's fucking awesome. Yeah. But, you know, there are so many groups that...

where they managed to lose that. There were so many groups that managed to, after the initial success, they lose sight of it and it becomes a job. And I feel like Beastie Boys, that never happened. No, I agree. I mean, there were compromises we'd have to make. Everybody has to make them in life. Oh, really? Yeah. Do you want to...

This is Zane. This is Zane. This is news to you, Adam. Adam's never compromised, but I guess... I mean, we're both wearing the same clothes. You're saying that I chose...

Yeah. I think you said it though very well of just that I do feel, I think we're both super grateful of the fact that we got to basically just like do what we always did, right? We would just get together in a room with each other and try to make each other laugh, but somehow it operated on this big scale. You know, and it's this thing of like, so that's what I mean of compromise is like, yeah, of course we would be like, oh, okay, you want that to be the single on the album? Like, we don't ever want to listen to it, but fine. If that's what you think people are going to

- It was funny 'cause I just, just looking at the video for intergalactic, you know, planetary or sabotage or I just see, and it actually, almost every video I can think of that you guys made, I kind of wish I was there 'cause it looks like you're having a really good time. - We were. - Screwing around. - Really, really fun.

That comes through. To me, that's the secret sauce. And it is hard to sustain. I mean, as you say, I'm sure there are bumps on the road or compromises here and there, but it never looked that way from my vantage point. Well, apparently, they're those records that didn't turn platinum that we found out about today. Those two. Yeah. Yeah.

Who cares? Because they're not really your records anyway. That's true. Spoken word records, yeah. I don't know what happens. We got very lucky. We just happened to be friends that just wanted to hang out. Which we would do when we weren't recording. We'd always kind of like just be together anyways. When we didn't have to. I don't know. We got lucky. I was friends with...

my friends, worked with my friends. Yeah. Yeah. But no, I think it is unusual. We prioritized being friends. I mean, I guess it is that I'm friends or I know of other bands that are of our similar age that are still going whatever in there, but everybody's on their own tour bus and- Yes, they're not talking. Whatever. How is it not talking? That's strong. Do you want to say names or? No. They speak through lawyers. They hate each other.

No, I'm not even saying hey each other. They're not doing the tour to hang out with. They're not doing the tour to hang out with each other. That's what I was going to say. Soda's gone flat. You need to fizz like a flat soda. It's good if your stomach's upset. Ginger ale, it's flat. I didn't know that. Hold on, wait. I thought the effervescence is good for your tummy. I don't want to talk about this anymore.

You said something controversial and you just want to glaze over it. I want to shut this down because I realized I think I made a mistake and I just want to shut it down. No, the ginger ale is real though. Like, I only know that because my mom told me, but like- That's what my mom told me. Yeah, my mom wasn't a doctor though. My mother was not a doctor either, yet she operated on many a brain. Oh, my mother was Irish though. Mine too. So maybe that's what it is. So you're saying there's an ancient- Are you a mix then? Are you- I think-

Safely, everybody in this room can say we are. Yeah? Yeah, we're pretty mixed up. Not me. I am 100%, 100.000% Irish. Really? No Portuguese? No! No Portuguese. Nope. Why? Of the one ingredient missing, why Portuguese? Boston, New England, a lot of Portuguese. No, but we were in Ireland, bouncing around, not bouncing, whatever. I don't want to... It started with flat soda. Guys, I blame you.

it's your dynamic that has ruined what could have been I think one of the greatest podcasts ever recorded but no me lay meat shit what the fuck where are we now

I feel like that's what it's going to say on my tombstone now. My D. Mille Miche. Does Mille Miche actually mean anything? No, I don't think so. Why did they get us back here? I brought us back here. It's Mille and then M-I-G-L-I-A. It means thousand miles. You don't have to lean that far into the mic. You don't have to actually suckle it. Jesus Christ. Not a good mic person.

I've always had a memory because you guys have that line about never rock the mic with the pantyhose. When I was on Late Night, there was a guy I could see, you know, all those years I could see a band getting set up. And that lyric was always in my head. And there was a band setting up, which will go unnamed just because I don't think anyone remembers them. But they had a hit that week. Wow. And they were setting up and we could watch them prepare on camera because the cameras were just on throughout 30 Rock.

So I'm getting ready for the show, doing my stuff. And I see this guy getting ready. And then I see him driving. I see him tying panties and bras to his mic stand. And I go downstairs and I go in and I say to the guy, you got to take those off your mic stand. And he said, but this, this is our act. And I said, if that's your act, act.

you have no act. Oh, man. But I only did it because I remembered. Right. Is that pantyhose? Is that pantyhose? It wasn't pantyhose. You're kind of like passively aggressively blaming that action on us, basically. I'm saying you're responsible for this. Listen, they weren't going anywhere. He was at a hardware store two weeks later. Their families remember them. Their friends remember them. No, they were all taken away.

because that's how bad the band was. Also, to be clear, but the lyric is about the, you know, the, like, I mean, this is not pantyhose on our mics that we're using now, but it's, you know, it's kind of like a technical term, pop filter. So I misheard your lyrics, took it out on a guy,

who was just trying to make it on a late night appearance and now they're all gone. I'm backing you. They're doing it all wrong. There's no pop filter aspect. That's some tchotchkes he's putting on his mic stand. It's disgraceful. It was Steven Tyler's shit and it had to stop. I mean, it's Steven Tyler. At least it's Steven Tyler. He's supposed to have the scarves. People know Aerosmith.

I know. They did go on to have quite a lot of success. Yeah. It was Aerosmith. Oh, do you think Aerosmith were on Joe Franklin? Is that Conan O'Brien bump? Wait. Hold on. Aerosmith could have been on Joe Franklin. They had to have been on Joe Franklin in like 72. Everybody was on Joe Franklin. And Joe Franklin, I was not on Joe Franklin, but we had Joe Franklin on my show in like 93. Really? Yeah. Or 94. And I think I sat in a hot tub with him. It's possible.

In a hot tub. I'm going to ask listeners- Was he fully clothed or not? Well, that's- I don't want to talk about it. It's personal. We're shutting it down. We're shutting it down. Okay. I want to congratulate you both on this incredible run. Of being old. No, of just making it to this podcast. Okay. Of all the things you've achieved-

You could argue this is the Acme of your career. It's a bookend, Joe Franklin. Not without, I don't want to get whatever, sappy or anything, but when you go back and listen to the music, one of you is not here anymore.

Is it a joyous thing for you to hear, Adam, when you're listening to that music now? Is it ever rough to listen to them or is enough time gone by where it's all good? Well, I'd say, A, neither of us listen to, not to burst the bubble. Well, we don't listen to our, we're not going to listen. I mean, you go back and watch an old episode of your show or The Simpsons. At night, I wear a tattered wedding dress and just watch in my mansion. Yeah.

No, I don't. Yeah, shocking. We're not the audience for our own music. But no, I don't know. I think it's all of the above. I think enough time has gone. There was definitely a period of time where just I couldn't even open up a computer music file or something that we are working on because I would just get

too sad the process would bring me right back to making because we really worked with Adam up to very close to the very very end because that's what made him happy

So anyway, I feel like that time has sort of worked its way through. And then there's times I'll hear something and be like, oh, yeah, oh. The rest is like when you... Because now I think once in a while our things will get licensed to... We'll give a sync license to...

Like Mario Brothers or something. So you'll be like on an airplane or something and that will, you'll have forgotten, or at least at my point of aging, I'll have forgotten that we've licensed that song. And then the thing will come on in the airplane. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's kind of, you know, it's sort of actually nice. I mean, Beastie Boys music in a good way is it's out there. It's you, you're going to hear it.

You don't have to go looking for it to hear it in the best way. I'm just curious if that, when you hear your own music, is it evocative of anything or do you just think like, "Yup, that was then, this is now." Well, two things. For me, I feel very similar. It was very hard at first because not only did we record all the music together with Adam, but we were also best friends for decades and so we're together every day.

And so when you lose a friend like that, it's really, really hard. And not everybody has a friend who's like a musician whose voice you hear every day. It was hard. It's definitely less shitty now, right? But the thing about us hearing our music, like for me, hearing the music, the whole thing is weird. Do you know what I mean? That anybody likes our band that we've played at Madison Square Garden or whatever.

that we have platinum records that people want to listen to the whole. Platinum records that are not our records. Multiple platinum records. The whole thing is weird. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. So when you hear it in a movie or you hear it from a car or something, it's very weird. Still, I don't think it'll always be weird. I think that's healthy because it is miraculous. Anything like that is miraculous. And to get to a point where it's like, but of course, for we are the Beastie Boys, it's just like, that's. No.

We also not like, we don't know how to make songs. That's the other thing is we don't know how to like craft a perfect song and write a good melody that brings you in with like the pre-chorus into the chorus with the vamp and the thing. We don't actually know how to do that. So what you're saying, Adam, is you might've been like a potential Hunts Hall, but you were no Linda Perry. I am Hunts Hall, not Linda Perry. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, congrats on the 30th anniversary. Yes. Oh, wait, no, I have a question though. So, I mean, you're not allowed to ask me questions. That's not how this works. Yeah, go ahead. No, I think it's funny. Like what Adam's saying, like, I really think did resonate with all three of us. Even when Yak was alive of just that, we felt like houses work that we're just basically making these inside jokes and that it actually works.

other people get let in, right? It's sort of miraculous that other people could even appreciate them. But when, so when you're crafting a bit on whatever level, whether you're writing for somebody else or your own, but no, but just, do you feel the same way that like, oh, this is just something we thought was funny to us. Like, I can't believe that just going out on there and people think it's funny. Most of my career has been, all of my career, I think,

has been me thinking of things that I think might make one of my other comedy people laugh

And then later on, someone's talking to you about it because they saw it on television or it meant something to them. And I still find that crazy. It's just, we're all getting away with highway robbery. Just we're having fun and making things that delight ourselves. And then it's a thing. And so it's nice. I think I'll always be more fascinated by...

by your side of the business, by music, because I try to understand it, but I don't. It's just not, it's not in me. I like to play it. I like to play at it, but to create music on the level that you guys did is mysterious to me and really endlessly fascinating. And every

every comedian I know secretly wishes that they were in a group and they were making music and playing Madison Square Garden. No, but there is a big, there is a huge comedy music crossover appreciation. Like when we, that last video that we did that you have to,

directed for Make Some Noise and you know we had for some reason you weren't in it but we had basically every comedian sounds like you were close but we had every comedian alive was in it I remember me insinuating I don't mean that as a shot no no no I mean I think it was shot on the Warner Brothers lot and I'm talking I was talking to Yalc and it would

it would have been so easy for him to say, hey, Conan. Do you want to hop in? You got five minutes? I mean, and I think he had a camera rolling. Yeah. I mean, he's like, I mean, you know. I remember him pushing me out of the way of the camera. He actively avoided asking you to be in it. He leaned against me to push me out of the way of the camera. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, oh, you know Will Ferrell. He was like, you know Will Ferrell, right? Yeah. I mean, he just happens to be here. Yeah, yeah. He's not. No, he wanted my Rolodex. That's what he wanted. Yeah.

No, there is a funny crossover. And when I would see you guys, I would think, oh, to make music that everyone wants to sing along to, but also get to be funny at the same time as you guys, as you guys were like, that's that's that'd be fun. But now I'm here with you, Sona. I'm sorry. Yeah. No, I love it. OK, that's nice. Not you specifically. Oh, oh, but I love the process. OK, fine.

Guys, I'm gonna wrap it up just because I'm not getting paid. It has been 30 years. - Yeah, where are the sponsorship breaks? Like where are the- - We don't do those here. That's dirty linen. - Where's the ads for the digital marijuana and stuff? - Casper mattresses and stuff. We used to have really fun ads and then this is like a crazy humble brag, but at the beginning, and then this thing got big where the ads now are all for like legitimate boring companies.

But it used to be for like fracture prints, which turned photographs into glass. And I had more fun doing those ads.

Yeah. And then it became, you know, oh, American Express. You're like, that's no fun. Magoosh. Magoosh was fun. Yeah. Please, I don't want to waste their time. What's Magoosh? I don't really remember what it was, but he just kept, the name of the company was Magoosh and you just kept screaming. Okay, please. Please, we don't want them to get into the Magoosh thing. Guys. You can't call me a Magoosh. I'm a Magoosh. You're a Magoosh. I don't remember what Magoosh did. Gentlemen, I thank you for being here. Uh,

It was really nice having you. And I wish you both well. Please come back if you ever can. Thank you. Because you're super smart, funny, gifted people. And it's nice to hang with you. And I appreciate it. Wow. Thank you. Like I said before, we don't have jobs. So we're around. Welcome to work here if you like. Well, let's not get crazy. It's just nice to be here. Yeah. I mean, that would ruin everything. Then that would be a job. I mean...

Take it away, Jimmy. Take it away, Jimmy.

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