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We're not gonna get him. Some spread. Happy No Nut November. We start in Atlanta where the Falcons had a tough time defending against Rico charges as Dowdle scored a touchdown. Meanwhile, young thug Kirk Cousins looked like prime Jimmy Guapolo throwing for three touchdowns. The Cowboys were forced to call on their DACUP quarterback,

as Prescott hurt his hammy, but it was too little too late as Cooper Rush did his best to be a modern-day warrior with a mean, mean stride, but fell short, leaving his fat coach to smash a tablet after the menu wouldn't load. Falcons 27, Cowboys 21.

We go up to the Meadowlands where Dan, all I do is quin, quin, quin, no matter what, had Washington rolling. And the team was looking animated as, Hi, I'm Troy McLaurin. You may remember me from such films as the 1-yard touchdown reception and the 10-yard touchdown reception. Not even a day ball of coke can save Wall Street as another Black Monday is imminent after Daniel Dow Jones continues to crash. The commander is 27. The G!

Over to Western New York where Amari Alex Cooper was ruled out pregame, but the Bills still had enough for the Dolphins to call Josh Allen daddy. The Bills started slow in the first half, but found a groove when Ray Charles Davis made the Dolphins secondary look bleak.

look blind on a way to a 63 yard score. The game came down to the wire, but Tyler, what you going to do with all that base? All that base on special teams hit a 61 yarder and no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Bills 30, Dolphins 27. We go down to Baltimore where the Ravens said, let's get recorded. Let's

Let's get recorded in here. Hey, hey, as Patrick scored a touchdown to boat race the Broncos. Track, Dorcito. Ran for 100 big TDOs. The Ravens sit at 6-3-0. RIP the bridge, Francis Gacchino. He shoves it down Sean Payton's pee hole. Track, Dorcito. Ravens 41, the Broncos 10. We head on to Philadelphia where Max was on the scene.

Sagan Barkley was rumbling, mumbling, and stumbling. And then he hit him with an all-time 180. Whoop!

Over the head of the Jags defender. Finally, Jahan Fragotsen reminded Eagles fans that he's on the roster after he had one of the biggest catches of the game. Zach Bonvoyage was all over the field and looked like he was going to easily bid adieu to the Jags offense. But after a roaring comeback, it was N'Kobe Jimmy Dean who risked it to get the biscuit and came down with a game-sealing interception. Eagles 28-1.

Jags 23. Thanks, Max. Over to Nashville with the boy, Henry Lockwood. Down to Nash Vegas. Mason Rudolph, the backup QB, backed up and threw a nine-yard pass, which was complete to Nick No-No Vanette for a touchdown. Past fans were thrilled their rookie QB was back from a concussion protocol and said, we love the drink after a second-quarter touchdown.

That was hurtful, Henry.

In Carolina. So what? We lose games. So what? We suck ass. We're just having fun and we don't care who sees. So what? Our owner's a dick. That's how it's supposed to be. We're living Bryce Young and wild and free. Derek Carmella Soprano was playing with a newfound furio after calling himself a psychopath this week.

But it was too little too late as the Panthers practiced anti-Dennis Allen discrimination, further cementing him as the worst coach of all time. The Panthers win a football game. What? Huh? Huh? The Panthers? The Panthers win a football game? Panthers 23, Saints 22. We go to the...

Frozen tundra of Green Bay, where Jameer Jameer on the wall. Who's the fairest of them all? As the Lions came into the frozen tundra wearing their snow white uniforms, making Packers fans look sleepy, grumpy, and dopey. Kentucky Kirby Joseph got on his horse and galloped home for a pick six to end the half, while Brian Branch Davidians took on the Green Bay TF.

and got lost getting kicked out. But it didn't end up mattering as the Lions answered the camp bell yet again on the way to an easy win. The Lions 24, the Packers 14. Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston, Cuyahoga, such a fine sight to see. It's a pick, my lord, another pick, my lord, add another, that makes three. Jake Garvin's play,

The Browns are basic. James thought his coach was black till he got LASIK. The Chargers, 27. Browns, 10.

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but he seems to have righted the ship momentarily. So we'll update this at the end. But were you getting nervous too? A little bit. He looked a little bit spooked. He looked a little pumpkin-y. He was spooked. It was like seeing ghosts again for a moment. He also did get hit in the face on another sack. The NFL doesn't like his face. I think it's that he's got such a large head that they're like,

It's almost like you're asking, well, what was he wearing? Did he want to get hit in the face? Yeah, it's free reign on Sam Darnold's helmet at all times. Was he asking for it? Back-to-back weeks. But yeah, we will update that game after we finish everything else. Let's hop into week nine. So last week we had an incredible witching hour, insane games. This week...

It didn't feel like there were a ton of drama. Was Hank right? Hank might have been right. Was Hank right about the games this weekend? They were games. Which game did he specifically... Oh, he didn't like the Falcons. That was a fun game still, but...

Was it? Yeah, it was still fun to watch Kirk Cousins go crazy. He was going crazy. We had like two decent games today. Yeah, it wasn't the best Sunday, but that's okay because we love every Sunday. We hold it and cherish it and love it and kiss it and smooch it and have it sit on our lap and fondle it. Yeah, take showers with it. Yeah, cuddle it. Little spoon. I'd like to make Sunday my little spoon every single Sunday. All right, let's hop in the games.

games. Bills 30, Dolphins 27. This was probably the closest best game early.

Josh Allen and Sean McDermott and the Buffalo bills continue to be the Miami dolphins. Daddy, uh, Sean McDermott's now 15 and two against the dolphins. And this was the bills kind of MO this year where they start slow. They've actually been trailing in five games, uh, at halftime this year, they started slow and then they woke up in the second half with, uh,

a fumble that kind of changed the game when they punched out the ball of most dirt. And then Ray Davis is long touchdown. And Josh had 156 yards and three touchdowns in the second half. And they held off a frisky dolphins team. Yeah. The dolphins looked alive today. Josh had an incredible touchdown pass. That's when it was. Okay. He is, he's your daddy, right? He is father and he's going to score whether you like it or not. There's nothing you can do about it. He was falling over, getting hit by like two guys and then just,

lobs a nice, easy, soft, catchable ball into the end zone. Like most other quarterbacks, if they get hit like that, they might fumble. They might hit the ground and hurt their shoulder. Josh is just like, okay, I'm just going to push the buttons, and this is easy for me because I believe I can beat the Dolphins because I've done it a million times in the past. Yeah, 15-2. That's pretty crazy. That's ownership at a different level. The Dolphins...

They're frisky. I'm going to stick with the Dolphins being frisky. They don't know how to close games. I think they've lost their last three games by a total of 10 points. Their offense looks like it's somewhat back. Tua looks okay. They just don't know how to close games. They score to tie the game, and you're like, oh man, the Dolphins are going to maybe be able to pull this out. And then they had the back-to-back. It was the Chop Robinson penalty, and then the Jordan Poyer penalty. And then...

Sean McDermott deserves credit for this because Tyler Bass has not been great. Tyler Ass. They call him Tyler Ass. He missed an extra point today. He doinked one. I think he missed a couple extra points last week or the week before. He has had maybe the yips, whatever you want to call it. And Sean McDermott was like, you know what? I'm going to fucking trust him with a 61-yarder.

which if he misses that kick, the Dolphins, I believe, had one, maybe two timeouts. I think they had two because I think they used one to ice him. The Dolphins can basically turn around, get 20 yards, and try to kick a game winner themselves. That was a pretty risky thing to do. So Sean McDermott gets credit for trusting his kicker, which I don't know if I would have trusted my kicker in that spot. That's awesome because we will give him credit for trusting his kicker. If he had missed that field goal, we'd be like, Sean McDermott, you belong in prison for that.

The guy missed an extra point. Why are you going to send him out there for a 61-yarder? I think as he was lining up, I was like, this is psycho because it really was. When you have a 61-yarder, you're just looking at the field and you're like,

if he misses this, the dolphins get need a first down to try their own 61. And people always say like, you know, like if your coach doesn't get something and you're like, well, if he, if it would have worked, we would have been praising him for making the right call. We need to do more of the opposite. Yeah. Where we, we talk just about how bad of a decision it was because it didn't work out the way that we thought that it

was going to happen. Yeah, but hey, listen. It was a 61-yarder, and it probably would have been good from 70. Yeah. He hit the dick off that ball. It was very, very impressive. And now you get a kicker who might have some confidence back, which is also a nice free agent acquisition. Tyler Bass gets the game ball. The bills are absolutely rolling. And even in a game where it's like...

It did feel, for a little bit watching that game, because they were sleepwalking the first half. They had one good drive that Keon Coleman, the ball goes off his hands and picked in the red zone. And you're like, are the Bills going to lose this game? No, no, no, no. The Bills are not going to lose this game. And the Bills are 7-2, and the second best team in the AFC East is 3-6.

That's pretty crazy that they have it wrapped up this early. Congratulations to the New York Jets, who are in second place in the AFC East. That's huge. That's huge. That's a big game for memes. That's enormous. So, back. Almost back. Almost back. Second place is pretty good.

There also should be... I don't want to be the one to start the conversation, but other people have started the conversation. Josh Allen should definitely be in the MVP conversation. Oh, he is in the conversation. Yeah, but he should be very much in it. I think if you look at the odds, it's like Lamar 250 and then Josh is like 280. And Lamar probably should win it again because he's been insane. But so has Josh. Josh has been really good too. The Dolphins, I would say...

There are so many teams that have two wins right now. I think there are nine NFL teams that have two wins, which doesn't seem mathematically possible, does it? No. To have nine teams with two wins. Some of them are two and seven. Some are two and six. But there are nine teams that have two wins. I think the Dolphins are by far the best two-win team in the NFL. The Dolphins are the best two-win team. To be the best two-win team? Yeah. You think that's bad? You think they're the worst two-win team? PFT, definitely. The Titans beat them.

Yeah, but that was a different team. True. Titans, I can't quit the Titans. And Jameis? Yeah, well, the Browns are also a different team. I would say the Browns and the Dolphins if we're playing the two-win Super Bowl. I think it would be Dolphins one seed.

No, no, it's a final four. Okay, got it. So it's Dolphins one seed, Browns two seed, Titans three seed. So it's Browns, Titans in the first round, and I think it's the Jaguars in the fourth seed. Okay, yeah. So Dolphins versus Jaguars, Browns versus Titans. Okay. I think the Dolphins win that game now. I think the Dolphins beat the Jaguars.

Yeah, I think I have the Browns versus Dolphins in the championship game for the two-win teams. For the best two-win team in the NFL. Make this a tournament. That might be a pick-em. Put it on a Tuesday night. Yeah. Give it to us instead of election coverage. We have an action. Kill the two-man. Yeah. I would watch this. The Tupper Bowl. The Tupper Bowl. And then just missing the Tupper Bowl, I would say, is the Giants. They were the first one out. Yeah, yeah. They were the one that Lenardi's like, hey, look.

They don't have enough on their resume. The Patriots played like five games without Drake May. I feel like they aren't getting enough credit. Different team. Higher quality two-win team. You just lost to a two-win Titans team. You gave the Titans entry into the two-win club. If you didn't want them in there, you should have kept them out. Who was your other winner? You beat the Dolphins, right?

No. They beat the Jets. I know they beat the Jets, but did they beat the— Week one, they beat the Bengals. Oh, yeah. So you lost the Dolphins. So, I mean, if we're looking at it, if we're doing the Lenardi bracketology— I think the Giants have— Although you can make the argument that the Giants did beat the Browns. I think the Giants have the best strength of schedule. The Giants do have a tough strength of schedule. No, I think if you look at the win percentage, I think the Giants, of all the two-win teams, it's like—

They're number one. They played a gauntlet. Yeah, that's what you get for making your schedule. You try to play competitive games, and Lenardi doesn't give you that respect. They're like the 2014, I want to say, Arkansas Razorbacks when Brett Bielema, they won like six games, but they were maybe the best six-win team out there. Yeah.

Because they were just going, they were playing everyone in the SEC and just playing everyone to like a 13-12 loss. Yeah, but to the Dolphins' point, I think that they, I mean, they hung in this game. They could have very easily won this game. The Dolphins are frisky. I think they'll be, their official spoiler, I don't know if they're going to sell. They probably should sell. Like, what does Jalen Waddell do?

He showed up out of nowhere in the second half of this game. Yeah, and then he had to minus, like, what did he do? Yeah, so here's what happened on the last play, because right when this happened, I turned to Jerry and I go, oh, my God, what was to his passing yards over-under for today? His prop was 243 and a half yards. That was the over-under. Yeah. He had 254 yards with five seconds left in the game. Mm-hmm.

He passed Jalen Waddell. Jalen Waddell ran backwards. Yeah.

Sorry, it got pitched to Jalen Waddell. He did not pass initially. Jalen Waddell, yeah. But he threw a complete pass down the field, and then it got pitched to Jalen Waddell, who ran backwards. For 16. Minus 24 yards. So Jalen Waddell finished his stats today was two catches, minus four yards, one touchdown. Pretty crazy. That doesn't seem physically possible. No, it doesn't. That's how it happened, and so two is over under, did not hit.

because of Waddle running backwards. Yeah, I just... I feel like the Dolphins should... It's a wasted season. You know you're not going in the playoffs. You have some talented guys in the roster. Like, what... I don't know. Maybe the Chiefs don't want another wide receiver now, but they still could use one, right? Like, what... I don't know. I think they said they're not done. If I were a 2-7 GM...

I would just be trying to get as many draft picks as possible. Yeah, and this is what I don't know about Waddle because he's been MIA in a lot of games. I don't know if he has lost a step or if they're just not targeting him at all. No Tua hurt. No Tua was a big deal. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know if Waddle is – he's still got the elite touchdown celebration. Yeah. Yeah, he had – week one he had a huge monster game, and then since then it's been – everything's been under 50 yards. Yeah.

and he's averaging like he gets like four catches a game. So he's not totally invisible, but I'd start trading everyone. And even the announcers are going through the same things that you're going through at home when you're watching the Dolphins play. When Tua took off to scramble for that first round, who was the play-by-play guy? Kevin Harlan, I believe. That was Kevin Harlan, yes. Kevin Harlan, I think he said like, oh, no.

Like during the middle of the play because Tua's running with the ball. They're feeling the same emotions that you are watching him run. Just like bad things might happen on this play. But he looked good today. I had a moment. Yeah, I mean, the Dolphins are frisky and they will play spoiler and they will probably win a game that they're not supposed to win late in the season and fuck someone else's schedule up. I'm trying to look right now. Ooh, maybe act.

Maybe at Green Bay? That could fuck something. That's going to be cold. Never mind. Yeah. Maybe like the Jets or the Texans. That's a game they could win and just fuck everyone's schedule up. But yeah, the bills are rolling. I don't... The bills are... Right now it feels like

the AFC is just a lot of trash or figuring it out and then the Bills, the Ravens, and the Chiefs. I like that there's a nice understood order of operations at the top of the AFC though. Yeah. Because you got the Chiefs obviously number one because guess what? They beat the Ravens. Ravens obviously at number two because guess what? They beat the Bills. So there's not a whole lot of debate that you can have. I think that the Bills and the Ravens are both really, really good teams. And I think either team could beat the Chiefs.

But I think that the Ravens obviously have the Bills' number for some reason. There's one person that's going to get very mad at us for this conversation. The Steelers are technically at the top of the AFC North. Yeah, I think the Steelers are very good. I put a future on them last Monday to win the Super Bowl. But yeah, the AFC, yeah, the Bills, the Ravens, and the Chiefs. If you gave me – well, I mean, it would be a dumb bet, but if you're one of those three teams to the Super Bowl –

Yeah. Yeah. I'd sign me up. That's, that's going to happen. It feels like, uh, okay. Next game, the game that Hank shat all over the Falcons, 27, the Cowboys, 21, Hank, uh,

I know that you weren't excited about this game, but this game gave us many different things to take away. One, Bijan is awesome. 150 yards from the line of scrimmage. Or 145 yards. He was awesome. Two... Is that like new information? No, but it's nice to see... Every game that Bijan goes off, it's kind of...

It's like nice to see because we spent all last year being like, when is Bijan going to go off? And now it's like he's arrived and he's so fucking shifty and so awesome and elusive. When he gets in space, you just know that he's going to make a guy miss. I think what Big Cat's saying is like it's really good for all the mock draft people out there. It's just like this guy's different. I'm a Bijan guy. I like him. I'm a fan of him and I like to see him do well. And so every time he does well, I'm like, yes, that

confirms that I am like it's okay to be excited about a guy who last year felt like he was not being used properly yeah uh two we got Dak saying on the sideline we fucking suck that was pretty funny yep uh three Mike McCarthy smashing the tablet uh

That was very funny. Did the tablet say something about his brother? I don't know. Might have. Called him a slur? Yeah. Or, yeah, maybe wrote an article about him. We got a lot of Philly things to talk about later. Phyllis, is it gay to date a pop star? Apparently. Actually, maybe. Yeah, outside of a Penn State game, yeah. Three, four, four.

Pam Oliver got a jersey from Steven and Jerry Jones. I don't know why. It's journalism, baby. I still don't know why. I was trying to figure out why. They stopped... I don't think they stopped the game, but in the broadcast, they showed...

Pam Oliver getting a jersey. Were they trying to sign her? I don't know if they're trying to sign her. I don't know if they could afford her right now. But I do think that for whatever reason, this is a move that you do when you're trying to get somebody to retire. Yeah. Think about it. If they're still working. They're pushing her out the door. You're having like a retirement party for her. I don't think that. Has she said anything about retiring? I don't think so. I don't know. Max memes. Can you look that up? And why did they get. Is it just because she does Fox? Yeah. Fox does the Cowboys. She's been doing it for a while. Yeah. Yeah.

I couldn't figure it out. That was very weird, but that was kind of cool, Hank. Five. I don't know what number I'm on. Rico Dowdle's touchdown was sick. Yeah, it was. That was a sick touchdown. Yeah, I looked for the same stuff, and I couldn't figure out. They gave her a jersey.

Either Jerry knows something about her retiring or this is Jerry being like, we need to get her off the sidelines for some reason. I bet you Pam Oliver has a lot of dirt on the Cowboys organization. This could also be Jerry taking a shot at those guys he yelled at on the radio. Being like, see if you're a journalist, this is how we treat you. I respect you. I won't hit you with a CDs nuts joke. Yeah. Uh...

Yeah, this game was... I enjoyed watching this game. It had a lot. I'll give you another thing that we can take away from this game, something fun. Yeah. The Falcons reminded us that you cannot commit pass interference on a fake punt. Oh. So the Cowboys tried a very sad fake punt and threw it towards their gunner who got thrown down to the ground. The ball probably should have been picked off in return for six, but it wasn't. But it was a nice reminder that if it's the last guy closest to the sideline and they run a fake punt, you can do whatever you want to them. Yeah. It's all legal. It's all legal.

Yeah, it was that. It was the sad fake punt, and then it was also the fourth down end around with CeeDee Lamb that lost like 15 yards. The Cowboys are ass. They are complete ass. That's also fun, Hank, watching the Cowboys be ass. The Falcons are good. This was a good win for the Falcons. Kirk Cousins...

I think if you looked at his stats this year, he was like the greatest quarterback of all time against the Bucs. And then okay, like average to below average against everyone else. So it was good that he beefed up his resume against someone not named the Bucs. Yeah. Well, this is, uh, it's the highest back-to-back quarterback rating for any quarterback ever in Falcons history. Wow. What Kirk has done the last two weeks. I think the Falcons are good. They still got to figure out their pass rush situation. They didn't get three sacks today. Uh,

Yeah, it is shocking. MVP quarterback. Are we having the conversation? No, I'm saying that's better than Matt Ryan. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Matt Ryan did win an MVP. That's true.

I was thinking for a second. I was like, Michael Vick did win MVP. This is actually. We should have talked about this on Friday. This is the matchup of Kirk Cousins versus the black Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Remember when Amari Cooper called Dak Prescott? Yeah. Was Amari Cooper actually giving Dak Prescott the best compliment he's ever received in his life? I think so. Because that would be an honor. Because I take Kirk Cousins over Dak every day of the week. Yeah. And I mean, the Cowboys are bad.

I have a question. So, good win for the Falcons. I actually do think the Falcons are good. I'm worried about the Drake London injury because he came out of the game after scoring a touchdown. He's very important. And again, their defense has to round into form a little bit more. The Cowboys ran the ball. The Cowboys don't run the ball, and they ran the ball very well. Zeke is just...

I don't even know what's happening. He just doesn't go to meetings anymore. And then he just, they're like, yeah, don't come to this game. Disciplinary reasons. I don't know. I don't know. But it is treating Zeke is treating the NFL. Like he's a, like he's a kid on like a youth soccer team. He's like, I can't make it to the game tonight.

tonight because my like sister has a violin recital. Yeah, I don't know, but it had to be something bad for Jerry to be like, Zeke, you're not allowed to travel. Right. Because I think Jerry, he loves getting the miles. I think they go straight to like his personal credit account. Yeah. People fly in airplanes. I think that he loves Zeke too. He does. But the story I read, Zeke has just been late to a bunch of meetings, like multiple meetings, which is shocking considering how fast he drives. That's true. My question though, is this.

And this is no discredits to the Falcons. Again, I do think the Falcons are good. I said that four weeks ago when I was like, I'd take them in the NFC South over the Bucs. That was obviously the Bucs have a lot of injuries. At what point are the Cowboys no longer a good win? I think they're always going to be a good win because they're always going to be a satisfying win. They're a satisfying win. But at what point is it like, oh, they beat the Cowboys. That's a really good, like the Cowboys are not good. Yeah. Well, let's ask Max. Max, you play the Cowboys next week, right? Yeah.

I think...

I think rivalry games are different. Rivalry games are different, for sure. It doesn't matter when you throw out the record books. But you get what I'm saying. The Cowboys are not good. They're not a good football team. No, they're not. But we're in our head because they've been... Under Mike McCarthy, yes, they have not had playoff success, but they've been a very good regular season team under Mike McCarthy. So in your head, you see the Cowboys on the schedule and you're like, oh, that's a big game. They're a good team. They're not. They're a bad team. They have a lot of holes.

They like building the entire offense out of just CD lamb, uh,

Does not make any sense. Micah Parsons has been out for a while. I actually think they should trade Micah Parsons. They never will, but that would be the smart move for Jerry Jones. So you're like, if you signed Dak Prescott to a big deal and you're like, he's the quarterback, you need some draft picks. You need to start like getting depth around him and not just be like, Hey, we'll pay for really, really good players and hope everything else works out. So did you see what Micah Parsons said about this game? He said, uh,

Game of the year for them, game of the week for us. So they're still talking about the Cowboys being everybody's Super Bowl? That's my point. I don't think that they are everybody's Super Bowl, though. No, they're just bad. It's just fun to beat the Cowboys. Yeah, right. It's very fun to beat the Cowboys, but they're not a good football team. So, I mean, they're not. I don't know. They're not a playoff team. No. No.

They're not going to win. I'm looking right now at their schedule. I think they're probably going to maybe win seven or eight games. And Dak, his hamstring is fucked up and his throwing hands fucked up too. Hands fucked up. They kept zooming in on his hand. It looked like he got stung by bees on the sidelines. He's all fucked up. Yeah. And Cooper Rush, credit to Cooper Rush.

I like a backup quarterback that I know exactly what he's going to provide. And what Cooper Rush provides is he's going to throw the ball as hard as he possibly can to a receiver that has a defender draped all over him. Every single time.

It's like a nine-yard pass rifled in there while there's a cornerback literally on top of his wide receiver. Yeah, like an uncatchable ball. But uncatchable maybe for either team. Yeah. So he knows where his receivers are going to be. He doesn't really have the knack of reading defensive coverages to throw it to an open one. But you know what? He gets rid of the ball on time. He does. On schedule. He does. Well, maybe a little late.

Well, yeah, maybe a little late. Relatively on schedule. Yeah, relatively. Dak did have a sick touchdown pass today, though. Yeah, he did. A little bit lucky on the catch by Rico. It was a great catch. Yeah, that was a great catch. Dak bought a shitload of time scrambling around. So sometimes when plays break down like that, Dak is liable to make either the sickest play ever or the most boneheaded play ever at the end of that play. And we got the sick one today. And they were so, so bad today.

on third and fourth down. I think they were three for 16, the Cowboys. That was it. Every time they got on third down, they just sucked. When you said that Drake London was injured after the touchdown, did he get injured? Did he do the bowling pin so much? The headstand? He left the game, I think, after the next series. So I don't know what his injury was. Because that headstand was sick. The headstand. It's a great celebration. Him and Amon Ra. Him and Amon Ra. And what college was that? That was like some...

Incarnate word incarnate word that guy Did it it's an awesome awesome Touchdown celebration have you ever seen the videos Of um it reminds me of uh the Videos of mike mike tyson uh His old training that he would do for his Neck yeah he would do neck bridges So it was basically like a

Plank on his neck He would be in Plank position But it would be his neck Not his hands Or his elbows He would do that For like 30 minutes a day It's a great exercise And his neck Would just get so Fucking strong Because I see Those celebrations And all I can think about Is you're gonna get hurt You're gonna get paralyzed It's gonna break your neck Yeah The Chargers Could probably do that With their strength coach Yeah Ben Herbert He's probably just gonna Work that neck out I saw they did a pregame Preseason

thing on the balcony where we interviewed Khalil Mack and it was JJ Watt interviewing Bosa, Khalil Mack, Ben Herbert, and Harbaugh. And I just was sitting there being like, those are all our guys. Like, fuck. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, like that was fun just seeing Ben Herbert. That's a lot of testosterone on that balcony. Coach Herbert, yeah. Yeah, sweet. Drake London, I'm reading right now. Right hip, hope just a contusion. That's from...

Twitter doctor, Jeff Muller. Okay. I trust him. We're hoping for a bruise. Yeah. My understanding, and this is from James Hall, my understanding is Falcons, Drake London is dealing with a hip pointer and an oblique strain. It doesn't appear to be a serious concern. I don't think you can get it. I think that's one of those things, oblique strains. Like, that's why you shouldn't try to get abs because you can't, I could never get an oblique strain. Yeah, you can't pull fat. Right. Yeah. That's never going to happen to me. Okay. Next game.

Hank, was that enough fun things to talk about? Yeah, I think I was right, but that's... No, I don't think you were right. Did you hear about Pam Oliver? I saw, yeah. Oh, 30 seasons. Is this the 30th season? Yes. So everyone's doing it. This is just from earlier in the year from the Niners. I'm not dead yet, but I'm having a great time. I appreciate you guys. So they are trying to get her retired. Yeah, that's what it is. That's crazy. We love Pam Oliver. Okay, Ravens 41, Broncos 10.

The not ready for prime time Denver Broncos, who I still are, you know, they're not a bad team, but this was, we talked about this on Friday, a big step up in class and they failed the test. Yeah, the Ravens are light years better than Broncos right now. I could see the Broncos making the playoffs. That could happen.

But they're probably going to – no, it could. If you look at where they are right now, they're probably – I'm making that face because I think the only team – I think the team they'd have to beat out is our Chargers.

Okay, gotcha. So I don't want that. They're probably going to lose their next two games, I think. But the Broncos, I think their defense is good enough to keep them in it and in the conversation. It wasn't today. It was not today. Lamar, I mean, the Ravens, you can't... The Ravens and the Lions are the two teams right now going in the NFL where I don't know what you do on defense because it seems like there's no answer. Zay Flowers...

Lamar Jackson will just run around and Zay Flowers will be wide open. And that will happen four or five times a game. And there's nothing you can do about it. And Lamar Jackson will throw it perfectly to him. He was throwing dimes. Lamar Jackson was 16 for 19 for 280 yards and three touchdowns. He didn't even have to run today. I think he has like one of his worst running games. And then you just throw in Derrick Henry. Yeah. Who, by the way, had his hundredth touchdown rushing. So he's the 10th player all time to do that.

And he also reached 1,000 yards. We're on 2,000-yard watch. Wait, he got 1,000 yards rushing? Today. No shit. 1,052 yards on the season. We are officially on 2,000-yard watch for Derrick Henry. I hope he gets it. Have the Ravens had a bye yet? They have not had a bye. So they're exactly – they played a little bit more than half of his schedule, nine games.

We're on it. I hope he gets there. I hope he gets there, too. It's crazy. But yeah, Zay Flowers is always open about 30 yards downfield, and he always catches the ball facing the line of scrimmage. And then he he like fakes one way and then turns around and runs the corner for an additional 13 yards. Yeah. And they do that five times a game. Yeah. And it's unstoppable, especially when you have Derek Henry come downhill at you. And yeah, Lamar Jackson throwing with he throws with so much touch now. It's awesome.

Yeah, he's having an MVP season again. He's been awesome. The Ravens cannot be stopped. The Ravens' defense would be the big concern because they still do let up big chunk plays, and it feels like... Bo Nix, I feel like Bo Nix had a decent amount of time today, and he missed a few passes. He did have that great touchdown catch, but it was just...

The Broncos have been feasting on some not great teams, and then they had to play a really, really good team, and they got punched in the mouth. And maybe they'll learn some lessons from it. Yeah, watching Lamar play is like the opposite of watching Bo Nix play. Because Bo Nix, every time he throws a pass, he's just like, I'm going to throw this ball as hard as I can. Doesn't matter who I'm throwing it to. Could be a dump off, could be a screen. I'm just going to wing it.

Yeah. But he's still fun. And when Bo runs, you're like he's about to get crushed or throw a pick. And when Lamar runs, you're like no one's going to touch him. Yeah, with Bo, sometimes I have the fear that he's already passed the line of scrimmage like eight yards. And I'm like he's probably going to throw another interception. He's going to try to throw it. Yeah. Also, Lamar, that was his fourth perfect passer rating ever.

In his career, and that's tied for the most all-time since 1950 with Ben Roethlisberger. Now, I don't know what passer rating actually means, but still, when you get a perfect anything, you got to say hat tip. I know when I see 158.3, that means really fucking good. That means he was really, really fucking good today. So the Broncos, yeah, the Broncos have, I think, the Chiefs next. So it's like...

A little, they're going to have to buck up here. They have the Chiefs and the Falcons coming up after feeling pretty good at 5-3. And that Chiefs game will be very interesting because we'll be like, yeah, they aren't that guy, pal. That's what I wrote down for the Broncos. They aren't that guy. You're not that guy, buddy. You're not that guy, pal. They could make the playoffs, but I just want the Chargers in. Here's the thing about the Broncos. They beat.

A lot of bad teams. Yeah. But there are a lot of bad teams in the NFL. And there's a lot of bad teams in the AFC. They still get to play the Raiders again. They get the Raiders. They get the Browns and the Colts. Yeah. So they do get to play some more bad teams. Oh, the Colts aren't terrible. They're not bad. Yeah. Yeah. They're in the Broncos conversation. And the Bengals, depending on the week.

Yep, and I'm going to say that whoever wins that Broncos-Colts game, that will make the other team a bad team. Yeah, that will be the— That's how you'll know. I like that. I like that. Okay, next up, Commanders 27, Giants 22, PFT, you're 7-2. You even beat—

Daniel Jones, where he finally threw a touchdown in front of his home crowd. 672 days since he last threw a touchdown at MetLife Stadium. It was New Year's Day of 2023. He went off in the first half. Four for six, zero yards, one touchdown. Yeah. He went off. He went off. Also, I noticed this, and I want to hear your perspective from the commanders, but I noticed this from the Giants' perspective. It feels like Brian Dable has realized that, like,

It's all over with Daniel Jones. So fuck it. Let's just run him like we did a few years ago. Yeah. Because he was just running every play. And he was pretty good at running too. Yeah. And they were running like options and he was keeping it. And I think he basically was like, hey, Daniel, the whole quarterbacking thing, the throwing the ball, you're not good at. So just run it. Let's just work on trying to get by. Yeah.

Any way that we can. We can't afford to be picky about how you're going to play the position. Let's just send you out there and do what we know that you can do. And yeah, in the first half, zero yards passing looks pretty bad on a stat sheet. Yes, it does. But I don't think he played that poorly in the first half overall because he was running the ball a lot. Yeah. He was running people over and they were able to move it pretty effectively. Our defense still doesn't look great. Yeah.

But our offense, the crazy, crazy stat that I saw today is that we have three turnovers this season. Three total turnovers. Oh, yeah, I saw this. Yeah, yeah. That's the fewest by a team in the first nine games of a season since 1933. That's crazy. And that's the first year that they track turnovers. So this might be...

the fewest of any team of all time that the commanders have. And so, yeah, Jaden played pretty well at quarterback today. I don't think it was one of those crazy, holy shit, oh, my God. No, he did what he had to do. But he did it really well. Yeah. And he doesn't make mistakes. That's the crazy thing. Like, he will make some mistakes. He's a rookie. He's going to figure it out. But he's very, very careful with the football. Yeah. Much more so than anybody thought that he'd be as a rookie. And no turnovers, no interceptions, no fumbles whatsoever.

It's huge. It's huge that you have a rookie quarterback that's able to do that. So, yeah, they're 7-2 for the first time since 1996, which is just crazy to think about that because they just hit their over for win total for the season. They're a very good football team. Yeah, that was a game where it wasn't a wow game. It was a division game. You took care of business. Yeah, road game in the division. Right. And the Giants always play the commanders tough. They usually beat us, honestly, especially on the road. So I got a question for you.

Steelers-Eagles next two weeks. So next like 10 days because you're going to play Thursday night football against the Eagles. If you're 2-0, what are your thoughts? If we beat the Eagles and the Steelers? If you're 9-2. Okay, I have – here's how I'm looking at the NFC right now. Okay.

And you can tell me if I'm being delusional. Hank's set up. Yeah, this is Big Cat trapping me into it. No, I'm not. No, I won't. No, no, I get it. I was going to ask you 0-2 as well. I was going to ask you the reverse. It's a good trap, though, because... No, no. I'm not trying to trap. I'm not saying this about my team as they currently are. I'm saying this if we somehow beat... Yeah, I was going to do 0-2 after that. If we somehow beat the Steelers and the Eagles. Here's how I see the NFC. I don't think anybody's going to beat the Lions. I think the Lions are clearly the best team in the NFC. They might be the best team in football. But...

I think that it would be realistic if we're looking at 9-2 to say we could lose in the NFC Championship. Yeah, you wouldn't have to play the Lions until the NFC Championship if you're 9-2. Yeah, and I could see us...

potentially getting to the NFC championship game. And you wouldn't have to play a road game until the NFC championship game. And yeah, so people have to come into our death trap of a stadium and it might fall on them or rain shit on them. That'd be nice. So I think you also have to take into account the trade deadline coming up on Tuesday because I think the commanders are going to try to get a cornerback, maybe a wide receiver. Huge day Tuesday. Maybe pass rush. Huge day. Maction. Maction.

NFL trade deadline. Power rankings. Everything. Everything's coming up on Tuesday. The two per bowl. Yes. What about 0-2? If we're 0-2 and we're looking at 7-4. And you lost to the Steelers. But what about the trade deadline? What's going to happen? That is so important. I just said we could get a cornerback. Get a wide receiver. We still need help at cornerback. We need help at receiver. Try to keep up. Yeah. Pending those moves. But now if we're 0-2, I would say...

Let's win a wild card game. Okay. Why not? Because Steelers and the Eagles are tough games. Yeah, they're very tough. Those are not the Giants and the Panthers and the Bears. Here's the thing. If the Commanders go 500 for the rest of the season, I think that puts us at 11 wins. Yeah, that would. It's crazy. It's crazy to see how fast this has turned around. And I respect the hell out of Dan Quinn because I think he's done a great job coaching the team. He's very competent, good. That's the thing is you guys have a –

Dan Quinn's a floor guy where it's like your floor is raised to a point where you're not going to make mistakes of a poorly coached team. Yeah. Who knows what his ceiling is? Well, I guess his ceiling is going to a Super Bowl, having a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl. But that type of coach, Dan Quinn, when you go from what you had in Ron Rivera, who it fell off at the end, to Dan Quinn, I feel like he brings the whole –

like organization together being like, this is what we're going to do. And we're not going to make the dumb mistakes that have killed us. Yeah. So if you, if you look at three turnovers right now through nine games last year, at this time, we had 14 turnovers, 14 makes a big difference. That's a big difference. Yeah. You guys have a lot of, I mean, you play the saints still and the Titans. Yeah. So I, I mean, I think the Cowboys stink. If I'm looking at the schedule right now, I think saying 11 or 12 wins is very, very possible. Very possible.

And I don't think I'm being delusional. No, that's not delusional. If you look at the schedule, that's not delusional. Yeah. Because it's, again, you're 7-2 and you have games against two games against the Cowboys, the Titans, and the Saints. That's four games right there where you should be favored. Yeah. And that's not even talking about the Steelers, the Eagles twice, and the Falcons, which you could win. Yeah, the way I see the NFC, it's the Lions. They're number one no matter what right now. They're almost unbeatable, I think. And then...

Grouped in that second group, I think the Eagles have the second best roster in the NFC.

I think that the Eagles are – Yeah. Like if they can figure out what's going on with the coaching and the weird decisions that they make sometimes. Seriality. And overcome the max mojo. And we'll get to it, but I'm officially – like just to add more shit onto everything I'm dealing with, the Rams I'm starting to get nervous about. Yeah. The Rams are – I think they're tied for first in the –

Oh, no, the Cardinals beat them head-to-head. Cardinals killed them. But they have the same record as the Cardinals? They have the same record as the Cardinals. I believe they have the same record as the Cardinals and the 49ers. The 49ers are on a bye this week. So, yeah, they're... No, the Cardinals, sorry, are 5-4, and the Rams and the 49ers are 4-4. Okay. So, yeah. Okay. Let's see.

Let's take a break. Do you have anything else with the Commanders? No, I think it was a good, clean game from Jaden. He's awesome. He's so fun. I love him so much. Yeah, I mean, one of the two touchdown passes to Terry was sick. Yeah, I think Terry had two touchdowns on two catches and like 19 yards. Good, efficient day from Terry. Oh, I remember what I wanted to ask you. Do you have a comment about the Commanders fan?

Oh, the guy that fell down. That was very funny. My comment is... He's talking shit. Can we put it in? Can we play it real quick? And then we'll put it in the show. This guy was talking shit and then forgot that gravity is not his friend. Well, I think there was a guy in front of him and he dapped him up right here. And then on the dap, he falls forward. That was a killer dap. Oh! Oh!

He just started rolling. And he got up and he... You know he's embarrassed when he's like... He's like basically wedged at the bottom of the stairs.

and his first instinct is to look back and continue to talk shit. Yeah, it's good. Like, yeah, what'd I say? I thought he was going to accuse the guy like pushing him over. Yeah. It was very clearly him. Number one, I want to commend this guy for having excellent pocket awareness and not showing any ass crack when he bent over. That's just, that's elite. That's being situationally aware because I think most bigger guys would have had a little crack poking out. Yep. Number two, I'd like to abstain from future comic because it's a good possibility that this is one of my friend's dad's.

I'm just going off vibes. I've been to many Commander's games in my life where all my friends' dads looked exactly like this guy. Yeah. So I hope he's okay. Yeah. He wasn't fighting anybody. No, it was a good fall. He was just running his mouth. It's a good fat guy fall. Okay. Let's take a break and do a couple ads, and then we will get back to more games.

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This is what you get. We can't be deterred. No, this is what happens. You're going to have little bumps in the road with Jameis. We were flying too high after last week. This week come crashing down. That's just what you got to take the good with the bad. Today was bad. Last week was good. I would like to step in real quick and...

congratulate the haters on one thing. Yeah. The haters said that Jameis Winston shouldn't have won the game last week because the pass before the touchdown pass was the easiest interception of all time that just got dropped by Kyle Hamilton, right? Mm-hmm.

The haters were right. Well, no, they weren't right last week because then he did drop it. You got to make the play. Yeah. Well, the curse of Jameis is sometimes he just throws such a damn catchable ball that your receiver is going to catch it or a cornerback is going to catch it. I also think he just loves playing football. He gets so excited. It's almost like he just wants to play catch with anyone.

whether it be on his team or the other team. Sharing. Yeah, you're just like, he's at the park, he's got a ball, anyone walks by, hey, quick catch. Or, yeah, if James goes to the park with a football and he sees kids, he's probably going to be like, hey, let's throw it around a little bit. He'll probably throw an easy interception, make the kid feel great. Right. That's just how he plays football.

Right. Spreading the joy of the game. Now, the Chargers defense is awesome. The Chargers defense still hasn't allowed 20 points or more than 20 points. I'm very high on the Chargers. I think they're a very competent football team, like top to bottom. They do have to figure out their offensive line a little because I think Justin Herbert got sacked six times and they obviously have Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt. Yeah.

But the Chargers, like Justin Herbert is really fucking good at football. And because last year happened, I think we got off – the national media maybe got off the scent a little bit. There was – he was one of those guys that got a little too much hype for not winning like playoff games too early. So everyone then just zagged on him. Whereas like he's always just been really good and he just needed a good coach behind him. And –

He's like, I mean, Quinton Johnson had 100 yards today, and Quinton Johnson's good at football again. Labakonke's awesome. Like Joshua Palmer, I think, is a top three receiver for him. It's not like he's throwing to the best receivers, and he just is really, really good at football. And the Chargers' defense is awesome, and they have – here's the thing with – and this is why it kills me. We'll get to the Bears, but like the Harbaugh, why I love Harbaugh and why people are like, oh, you glaze Harbaugh.

What Harbaugh does when you get a guy like Jim Harbaugh, he gives your team an identity. The Chargers have an identity. They play tough, hard football. And when you have an identity, you can win games. Like, that's huge. I think a different way of saying that is also saying that the minor, the stupid mistakes, the weird ways that the Chargers have found to lose football games in, like, the last, I don't know, 15 years...

those tend to go away with a great coach like this because he gives you an identity and he gives you a belief and then you start paying attention to all the details mean something to you right because you feel like you're a part of something that's bigger you and and so you do like if you have a great teacher in school that connects with you and you enjoy that class you're going to try a little bit harder on every single assignment than you would for a teacher that you don't give a

fuck about right and and you go into a game and you're like these coaches have a game plan for us to win this game yeah we're gonna play good defense we're gonna run the football like they it just they have an identity and they know how they want to play football games and how they want to dictate games and that just goes such a long way in the nfl and yeah i'm very high on the chargers i think they're a good like they are if you look at we were just talking about the broncos

If you look at the AFC playoff picture and you take out the division winners and the Ravens, so that's the Chiefs, the Bills, the Steelers, the Texans, and the Ravens because the Ravens are technically second right now in the AFC North. There's those two spots left, and I think the Chargers are one of those two spots because it's between the Chargers, the Broncos, the Colts, the Bengals, and I'll even throw in the Jets for you, Memes.

Out of those five teams, I think the Chargers are one of the two best of those five. Yeah, their defense is so good. They've allowed the third fewest points per game by any team through eight games in the last 15 seasons. I don't think anyone has scored over 20 points on them this year. No, yeah. But the others that are in the top four of the best defenses in terms of scoring, the others in that top four, they all made the playoffs and they all won at least 11 games.

So that's, they are a legit team. And I think if you just take that great defense and then Herbert, we know is a good quarterback. He's just, he's just been abused. He's like a homeless animal that now has its forever home. I think that if you can get, you know, 75% of how good Justin Herbert has been at his best in his career. Yeah, they're a good team. They've got holes. They've got weaknesses. Yeah, of course. They're not, I mean, they're not super explosive on offense. I think it's starting to get there in terms of like, they're starting to pass the ball more.

Yeah, we talked about it on Friday how Justin Herbert's pass attempts have gone up the last few weeks. It's clear that they're trying to let him rip it a little, especially with guys getting healthier. But yeah, this is a solid, fundamentally sound team, and what I expected them to do is beat a not fundamentally sound team in the Browns. The Browns are definitely, like, they have to sell. Yeah. If they could sell anything. What are they going to sell? Well, Mike Tannenbaum.

Did you see that on Get Up? No. Mike Tannenbaum, former Jets GM. Former Jets GM. Yeah, cargo shorts. One of the worst trade, hypothetical trades I've ever seen in my entire life. I'm happy you didn't see this because I'm going to tell it to you. Okay. And it was so bad he got laughed at.

Like, in his face on get-up. He got laughed in his face. By who? Everyone on the panel. Greeny? I don't know if Greeny was there that day. Here's what it is. The Detroit Lions get Miles Garrett. Okay. Good trade for the Lions. The Browns get... I'll start with the least amount. Second-round pick. Okay. I need to see what Miles Garrett's contract looks like. Hold on. Hold on. That was the least. That was the small... Second-round pick. Three first-round picks. Okay.

And Jameer Gibbs. That's yeah. That was the trade he proposed. It was one of the worst trades proposed of all time. Who says no? Who says no? Everyone was like, dude, what are you? He's like, well, Jameer Gibbs is redundant to David Montgomery. It's like, have you watched the Lions game? The whole point is they have these guys that you cannot stop.

You can't take away one of them. The whole point is they have Sonic and Knuckles. Does he have any connection to the Browns right now? Is he just trying to gas up Miles Garrett's trade value? I don't know what it was. It was shocking. And when I say everyone laughed, everyone laughed in his face. And then everyone was like, this guy was the fucking GM. And he kept on saying when they were laughing in his face...

He kept on saying, but the Lions will win the Super Bowl. He's like, the Lions are going to win the Super Bowl with Myles Garrett. But it's like, dude, if they don't win the Super Bowl, you just gave up everything. Yeah, I would say that this is a great trade for the Browns. Second round pick for Myles Garrett. Three firsts. Yeah, but just a second on its own sounds like it's a pretty heavy price, right? Yeah, I don't know. How long has he signed for? He's signed for three more years?

Yeah, three more years. No, you'd have to give up a first-round pick for Myles Garrett. Yeah. I was assuming that this was like maybe the last two years of his contract. Three for... That...

He made, that's like, I don't even know. It was such an insane thing. And he just kept on being like, but they're going to win a Super Bowl with Miles Garrett. Yeah, that's not a trade that's going to happen. So I don't even know how we got here. Oh, because the Browns should trade Miles Garrett. They should trade, yeah. If anybody wants any of their players, just pay. Everyone's open. Yeah. Nobody's off limits. I got an interesting side about this game, Big Cat. Oh, okay. Teams in the NFL are now 0-2 on the season.

when playing a Harbaugh brother just after beating a Harbaugh brother. Oh, yeah. First Raiders, remember that? Antonio Pierce? Yep. And I think that was the same thing where they both beat John and then Jim avenged his brother's loss. Yeah. So Jim is now 2-0 on avenging losses for his brother. Do we have any more of these situations coming up? We actually do. The Bengals have an opportunity to do just that over their next two games. Oh, okay.

So I think they might be doing it reverse. Who do the Bengals play? No, no, no. The Bengals play the Ravens next week and then they play the Chargers. So if the Bengals beat the Ravens, hammer the Chargers. Yes. If the trend holds, you could also say that there's a trend that teams that play the Harbaugh brothers back to back weeks go one and one. Always go. They always go one and oh, they always win the first leg of it.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying. So you would say Bengals... No, they always go 1-1, though. No, but they go 1-0 in their first one. So they always beat John and then lose to Jim. Got it. Got it. Okay, so... It's a trend. So the Bengals win on Thursday, Chargers. Yep. The next week. That is a trend. That's a pretty big sample size, too. I do think that Jim Harbaugh sees a team beat his brother. He's like, fuck these guys. 100%. Without a doubt. He absolutely does. Especially because even though...

John is older Jim is yeah Jim he deputized himself Jim Jim definitely has slipped up and said my baby brother John I yeah I bet you I bet you Jim has signed permission slips for John John definitely once a year has to be like you know I'm older than you right like I am older than you he is right yeah okay see I'm I'm because like he's not yeah Jim is older

Jim's a big brother. Jim is big brother vibes. He's an ultimate big brother vibes. Let's see, John Harbaugh is... You're right. I think John's a couple years older. John's the older one, but I'm looking up their ages. But Jim is older. Jim is the older brother. 62. John is 62. How old is Jim? And then Jim is... Doesn't matter. 60. Yeah. But Jim's older. Yeah. We got it. Next time we have him on, we got to ask him that. Jim definitely a little bro's John.

Yeah. We got to do one of those trick ones where it's like, you know, where you're like, what is this? You know...

What's that color? White. What's that color? White. And then would a cow drink milk? Do you fuck up and say cows drink milk? We got to do that with him. You just fucked me up when you said that. Yeah. You can fuck people up with that. We got to be like, what's older? Like older or younger? And then just get him to be like, yeah, I'm older than him. Yeah, he would say it. He absolutely would. Okay. Next game. Bengals 41, Raiders 24. Are the Bengals back or do they play the Raiders? I think they're both.

Joe Burrow was awesome. I think they're both back and also played the Raiders because Joe Burrow had a great quote after the game because he didn't look happy during this game. No, he's pissed. He had five touchdowns, right? He did have a pick six. He had a pick six, five touchdowns, and he looked pissed the entire game, even when they were scoring, when they were winning. After the game, he looked pissed off. He said, if we don't score a touchdown on a drive, I'm not going to be very happy for the rest of the year. So he's flipped the switch.

Yeah, he's flipped the switch. Five touchdowns, he's flipped the switch. Yeah, he's going to be hard on himself, hard on everyone else. And Trey Hendrickson had a great game too. Trey Hendrickson had four sacks. Chase Brown had a great game. It was crazy that he threw five touchdowns, none of them to Jamar Chase. Yeah. And the Bengals, they needed this game. Joe Burrow also. Watching Joe Burrow play, he is the definition of –

Like, his ability to scramble inside the pocket is so goddamn good. Where it's like he's not the most athletic guy. He's not going to beat you with his feet. But he does beat you with his feet. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? He'll start escaping to the right. And then when he's halfway to the sidelines, find a guy. Keep plays going. Yeah. Where it's like he's never going to run, but he's just going to keep the play alive for those extra few seconds that always end up in a completion. But yeah, the Raiders are...

One of the saddest teams out there right now because we had, yet again, Antonio Pierce just frustratingly bench Gardner Minshew for Desmond Ritter. So this is, I think, two times now that he's just not for injury, just like, I'm sick of you, Gardner. Get out of here. What did you expect? He's just hoping. He's Gardner Minshew. Like, I love Gardner Minshew, but, like, you can't go into a game with Gardner Minshew as your starter and be like, this is going to be awesome. He's just hoping that the next guy that he puts in is going to be

Like putting in Desmond Ritter and you think that you're going to get his last year at Cincinnati, Desmond Ritter. Yeah. Yeah. So the Raiders are ass ass. They say that hope isn't a strategy. I think for the Raiders it is. Yeah, it's not working. They've reached the point where it's just like, I hope that AOC is going to be good when I put them in. I hope that Gardner is going to be good once I've benched him already. I hope that Desmond Ritter somehow is good now.

Yeah, and it's never going to happen. No. It's never going to happen. By the way, AOC, yeah, he's hurt, right? Yep. He hurt his foot. I saw a very funny, someone tried to make the argument. What year was Aiden O'Connell drafted? I want to say it was. Was it the, oh, it was 2023 NFL draft. Someone pointed out, wait, I'm going to pull it up.

Oh, it was after C.J. Stroud had a bad Thursday night game, and someone was like, isn't it crazy that Aiden O'Connell is the best quarterback for this draft class? Because it's like C.J. Stroud, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson. I don't know. Will Levis. Will Levis. Obviously it was a joke because C.J. Stroud is very good. Hennon Hooker, Jake Hayner, Stetson Bennett, Clayton Toon, DTR, Sean Clifford, Jaron Hall, Max Duggan, and then...

Aiden O'Connell. Was he the best quarterback in that draft? There was one that you said that was like the fifth or sixth. Jake Hayner? Yeah, Jake Hayner. No, not him. Who was before him? Let's see. Clayton Toon. Definitely not him. Was it that? Hennon Hooker. Yeah, Hennon Hooker. He might be good. Stetson Bennett.

We don't know. Oh, DTR. He's played a little. I don't think Hinton Hooker has lost a game that he's been in. That's facts. That's facts. But yeah, the Raiders are just so sad. It's crazy how many teams are really, really bad. Like this early, too. Because like you said, what was the stat? Nine teams or two wins? Nine teams have two wins. Nine teams have two wins in week nine. It feels like at least usually like three or four of those teams would have three wins. Which I know it sounds crazy to say, but...

Two and six versus three and five is a big fucking difference. It is. Having two wins right now, I can't believe that it's possible for nine teams to have two wins. Yeah. They're just really, really bad teams. Yeah, we were right. Yeah. When we were talking about we did the ass list. Yeah, we did the ass list. So, yeah, the Raiders are ass and the Bengals are maybe bad. The Bengals, it all comes down to the next three weeks. They play the Ravens.

The Chargers and the Steelers. Yeah. That's if they can go, if they can survive that stretch two in one, I think they can be in the playoff team. If they go one in two,

Then we're talking about you literally cannot lose another game. That's really what it comes down to. And that Thursday night game against the Ravens is going to be awesome. Yeah. Very, very excited for that game. It's nice having a big matchup on Thursday. Yes. Very, very nice. And then we followed up with the Eagles commanders the week after. Wow. Which that one's going to be a must watch stream perm. Perm bet. Perm bet. Okay. Next up. Bengals back. I'm going to say Bengals back.

Yeah, the Bengals could be back. They could be back. I still don't know if they're back. If they beat the Ravens, they are officially 100% back. I never really stopped believing that the Bengals could be back, potentially, but...

there's just so many things that they can't fuck up even once. I think when we said when they lost to the Ravens, I think we looked ahead and we're like, there's a very good chance that when they play the Ravens next, it will be to get back to 500, which would obviously be huge if they get to five and five. Cause then I feel like if you get to five and five, then a little bit of the pressure comes off where it's like, Hey, we don't have to win every single game down the stretch. Uh, okay. Panthers 23 saints, 22. Holy shit. There's a lot of them in this game. Uh,

Let's start with the crazy stat Bill Barnwell said. The Saints outgained the Panthers by 150-plus yards, ran for 150-plus yards, and won the turnover battle. Last 20 years, teams were 275-0 doing that, now 275-1. The Saints ran the ball down their throat. Bryce Young was not terrible, and the Panthers end up winning this game. Good for the Panthers.

Every single person that's ever been associated with the Saints decided to take to Twitter and tweet about this. X.com, the everything app. And it's like...

Fires everywhere. Yeah. For the New Orleans Saints right now. Michael Thomas during the game. During the game, Michael Thomas went off. Do you have the tweets in front of you? I don't have Slant Man's tweets in front of me. I've got some other ones, though. Okay, yeah. So Michael Thomas, we'll pull those up. We had Chris Alave get another concussion, which sucked, and he got carted off. Yeah.

His brother was giving updates. It was like, my brother's awake and responsive at the hospital. Like everything's good. Then someone said, so he said, bro, just called. He's up and active. A guy quoted said might be time to have that. Is it worth it? Talk. And Joshua lobby wrote back. Ain't worth it in Nola. I'll tell you that. So that's not good. We also had, who was it? Oh, yeah.

Colleen Saunders took to Twitter and he said, fans say keep losing so we can get number one pick. Hell, throw me in a QB shit. Let's have something fun to watch. Motherfuckers is cheekbones. Shake my head. New Orleans, you all deserve better. My only goal is to finish above 500 at this point. Cheekbones. Cheekbones. And then someone said, damn, bro, so are we last or y'all? And.

And he said, well, that wasn't I don't think that was someone. I think that was Lonnie Johnson. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Lonnie Johnson Jr. said, are we last or you all? Yeah. And he said, Lonnie, brother, shut your weak ass up. We will both be in Cabo January 10th. I know we ain't in no last place argument. This is absurd. Yeah. Cam Jordan also tweeted. We just lost to the Panthers.

And then J.C. Horn replied, dude, we got the same record. Yeah. Like, that says it all right there. The Saints thought that they were above the Panthers. And they're not. They're not at all. They've lost seven in a row. There's another Saunders tweet that's very funny, too. He said, if that was a college bowl game, that motherfucker would have been called the Cottonelle Doo-Doo Bowl. Okay.

We just lost the Cottonelle doo-doo bowl. Oh, shit. So here's what Michael Thomas said. Cottonelle doo-doo bowl? The Cottonelle doo-doo bowl. That's a great one. Michael Thomas said they fired all them coaches trying to cover his flaws up. He's still doing the same shit. This is about Derek Carr. Oh, no. It started with Derek Carr...

For you, I've been told you're all shit sad. This is after Chris Olavi gets injured. Dude's scary in panic and just throw the ball. Get him the fuck out of here. So ass. That year his buddy went first team all pro in 2022. He needed 180 targets just to catch 100 passes. He is ass on my granny.

Dude tried to lie and say I was jealous of them making Chris wide receiver one whole time. He can't even get him a decent ball. He need his ass whooped. And they fired all them coaches trying to cover his flaws up. Still doing the same shit. I feel bad for Derek Carr. Derek Carr had to answer this in the postgame press conference. He answered it just like you thought Derek Carr would. He's like...

I don't know why he hates me. I've tried to reach out to him. It sucks. Like, it just sucks. But, yeah, that was a full meltdown of everyone in the Saints world while the Saints lost to the Panthers. Yeah, it was tough. I did feel bad for Derek Carr, too. I also saw this stat from Josh Dubow. He put out a list of the most losses as a starting quarterback.

Through four seasons, it's David Carr. Through five seasons, it's David Carr. Through six seasons, it's David Carr.

Through seven seasons, it's Derek Carr. Oh, no. Through eight seasons, Derek Carr. Nine seasons, Derek Carr. Ten seasons, Derek Carr. And then 11 seasons, where we're at right now, Derek Carr and Archie Manning are tied. So with one more loss, then that becomes Derek Carr as well. Derek Carr also is the first quarterback to start in losses versus 31 NFL teams. He plays the Raiders on 12-29.

Okay. I saw the stat and I looked up the other quarterbacks that are on that list.

And you pretty much have to be like a good quarterback to be on that list. Or have played forever. Yeah, you've played forever. You play forever. You start forever. Flacco's on that list at 30. And I believe Flacco has the opportunity to lose to one of the two teams that he hasn't lost to yet. Okay. If you look at the Colts' schedule. So he might get to 31 maybe. But Derek Carr has a big game against the Raiders on December 29th. But they are the Raiders. They are the Raiders. But they're the Saints.

The Saints are no longer above anyone. I just did it. Yeah. I just did the Cam Jordan real time. I'm happy that Bryce Young got a win.

Yeah. Like, that was good. He had a really... He had a competent game. He didn't light it on fire, but he had a competent game, which is a big step up from what we saw last year and the beginning of this year. Yeah, he had a couple nice passes to Xavier Leguette. Yeah. They're a very young team at wide receiver now. He looked like he had fun. Yeah. And good for the Panthers. This is... I mean, you have to be happy for the Panthers and their fans because...

Being on that team has to be just like hell. So even winning one game,

Just for a week to be able to be like, shit, we can actually smile for a week in the building? Yeah. This is fun. And just know that the Saints, what Cam Jordan tweeted out, that's what all the Saints thought about you. Yeah. They thought that they were five times better than the Panthers were as an organization. They're not. They're maybe, I'm not going to say the biggest bummer in the NFL, but they're definitely in the top four bummers in the NFL just in terms of watching the team because they

You recognize everything about the Saints. They've got so many guys that have been on that team for so long. But it's like when you see the commercials with all the guys from the office on it.

And you're like, well, I recognize all those guys from that TV show that I used to like. They're doing a commercial together, but it's not the same. They're old. They're not those same characters anymore. That's what the Saints are right now. They're just a collection of guys that used to be good together eight years ago. Yeah, right. And they're not going to change. Right. They wear the same uniform. There's some of the same names, but they're not. Like, I would be shocked if Jimmy Graham suited up at some point this year for the Saints, right? Would that blow your mind? No, not at all. It would not. Not even close.

He actually should. He absolutely should. But yeah, the Saints. Dennis Allen is the... I was looking it up. He's now 26-52 as a head coach. And there's only two head coaches in history who have coached as many games as he has with the worst losing percentage. He's the third worst NFL head coach of all time. And who were those other guys? They were... Let's see. Yeah. Pull it up.

He's so, so bad. I don't know how he's still employed. It makes no sense. Salary cap doesn't count against coaches. You can move on from a coach. So it is – let's look this up. Coaches records, if I sort by win-loss percentage –

I believe so. Dennis Allen is 16th worst coach just based on win loss percentage. And then the only coaches who have coached more games than him with a worse record is Marion Campbell, who has a 34 and 80 all time coaching record. And then you had Joe Bugle. Joe Bugle was 24 and 56. He,

If he loses a couple more games, he will be the worst coach of all time. It's crazy. He's so, so bad. Joe Bugle, great offensive line coach. Yeah. It's shocking that Dennis Allen is... I don't know how he still has... I mean, I guess I do know how he still has a job, but I don't know how he still has a job. I don't really know.

I think it's really because he's so unremarkable. Yeah, I don't get it. Like if they went to fire him, they'd be like, what does he look like again? Yeah, I don't understand. I have not seen anything redeemable about Dennis Allen since he's taken over as the coach of the Saints. If Dennis Allen walked by you on the street, would you notice? Okay. I don't think so. I've thought this about Zach Taylor. Yeah, but I think I would know Zach Taylor at this point. Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell, I'd know. He's tall.

If Zach Taylor wasn't... If he was wearing like... I don't know, like a sweater and khakis and no hat. And then if Dennis Allen was wearing a sweater, khakis, no hat...

They walked past me. I don't think I recognize either one of them. If Mincy brought Dennis Allen into this office but didn't tell us it was Dennis Allen, I don't think I would know. If he told you it was the quarterback coach of Ole Miss. Yeah, or he's like, this is a friend from the South. Yeah. I'd be like, oh, nice to meet you. He'd be like, hi, I'm Dennis. I'd be like, wait, what? Yeah. Dennis? Dennis Allen? Worst coach of all time? Yeah, get out. Holy shit. Okay, next up. Hank, last early game. Titans 20, Patriots 17.

Your thoughts? Drake may have played decent. The touchdown drive to tie the game was good. And the last touchdown specifically. Yeah, yeah. He was running, scrambling forever. That was a good end-of-game rep for him to get and to be successful in, so that was good to see. Interceptions weren't great, especially in overtime. He kind of said afterwards, though, the best play sometimes is just throw it incomplete.

Tried to be a hero. Didn't work out. We're back at the top of the... Tank-a-thon? Tank-a-thon. You are? Nice. So in that way, it's a win. Draft tomorrow, who do you take? Shador? I feel like you've got to take the best player in college football. Travis Hunter, yeah. Travis Hunter, that's a good point. That's a really good point. You get two players for one with him. It's tremendous value. Travis Hunter and Christian Gonzalez. Whoa, would you... Travis Hunter can catch...

Yeah, but I'm saying defensively. Yeah. Are you now saying that the Patriots are sellers at the trade deadline? Because I know that you were towing that line between buying and selling. No, those are reports that I never understood. So, yeah, I would definitely say we're sellers. But what would you sell? Yeah, we could probably give away all of our wide receivers for like a bag of donuts. Okay. Box of donuts. Ramondre? Ramondre? I mean, he played well. He scored only two touchdowns.

I don't really know what we'll sell. I saw another report that was like teams are asking about Gonzalez. That would be insane. That would be crazy. A young, great player like that. You can't do that. Don't get rid of him. You can't do that. That's all you got? Titans. I can't quit the Titans because their defense is good. Are they good or do they play the Patriots? No, they've actually been statistically very good this year. And very good, I mean, relatively for a two-win team. Yeah. They're like a top-ten defense statistically.

Yeah, I mean, you guys were giving me shit for it. This game fell under the category of, like, this game was not exciting to watch. No, it was a terrible game to watch. Nor it was fun at the very end. I needed Drake to have over 200 yards passing, so that was... It was weird watching you watch it, and you were like... It was like you had no care about the actual outcome, which, I mean, you want to lose, but it was weird watching that. You were just like, I just want him to pass it.

And then when we went to overtime, you're like, don't screen pass it. I didn't want a Tua situation. There was a moment where it was actually right after Drake May's interception. Hank was just like, yes, like quietly, like it's over. He's not going to throw a screen pass. It's going to go for negative yards. Yeah.

But you're tanking, so that's okay to root for your team. That was a good loss. Hank is being logical when it comes to his team. I think a lot of times us as fans, we're not logical. Like last year, I was rooting for Washington to win every game going down the stretch that they end up losing. I'm very glad that we lost those games. It makes sense to root for your team to lose when they're in a position like this. So Hank is very clear-headed about that, especially given how there are so many shitty teams right now. Every loss matters, Hank.

Yeah, it was a good loss. This was actually a great loss. Exciting, fun to watch loss. This was maybe the best loss because it was against a team that had one win. Drake May makes the Patriots watchable. Definitely. We told you when he got in, when you were like, I don't want him to play. We're like, no, you do want him to play because it makes it so that there's actually something to watch. And the reason was because the offensive line, I didn't realize how bad our wide receivers were. Yeah. Past three weeks have been shocking. Can't catch. So this did break the combo. Yeah.

Or the trend of teams that just got done playing the Lions stinking the next week. But the Patriots covered. Covered the spread. So that's what really matters. That was huge. That's it? That's all you got? Is there something I'm missing? No, I don't think so. It was a very boring game. Should I have more? No. I don't think you should. Tell me about Mayo. How'd Mayo do today? Was he boisterous? He should have gone for two. There's something. Yeah, let's talk about that. Should have gone for two. You're a one-win team or two-win team.

You're on the road. You score an insane touchdown to get within one with time gone. Like, it was literally zeros on the clock. Why wouldn't you just go for two? Yeah, I don't disagree. Like, it's just at this point, like. He's coaching scared. But just try to win the game right there. Maybe he wasn't trying to win the game. You're right. Think about it that way. But, yeah, I would have gone for two there. There's no reason not to go for two there. Like, just fuck it.

And the game on the field. Yeah. Keep the momentum. Keep the momentum. Exactly. Okay. Yeah, I mean, the Titans are a tough watch. Mason Rudolph makes them somewhat competent offensively. Is Levis actually hurt? Or is this a we're going to go with Mason because we think we're going to say that Will Levis is banged up. We don't want the whole team to revolt right now. Yeah, might be one of those.

Might be one of those. Because he definitely brings competency to them. Yeah. That they didn't have. He brings a little bit of boringness.

You've definitely born this and you have a good defense. But I mean that in a good way. Yeah. Like a stable guy. He's the guy that is, I'm going to settle down with this guy. Yeah. Uh, okay. Uh, let's do the afternoon games before we do that. PFT, you have two more ads and we'll do the afternoon games before we get back to more games are brought to you by our good friends over at Thorne. Thorne's got a wide range of highly effective nutritional supplements that are made to promote and maintain your health goals throughout all of your life stages. Uh,

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So, I assume everyone listening right now probably follows us all on Twitter, but if you don't, I had to go to the ER on Saturday because I have kidney stones. So, I was in intense, intense pain. I was actually pulling into the zoo with my kids and my whole body locked up and I was sweating profusely and my stomach felt like it was going to explode and my back hurt and

So I went to the ER on Saturday, spent like two hours at the ER, had a scan. They told me I have four kidney stones, one that's currently passing through my body. I've been in just intense pain. Woke up in intense pain this morning, been taking pain pills, just pissing nonstop, and

All that said... Have you passed any stones? I have not yet. We're working on one real bad. But all that said, as bad as going to the ER is and all the pain I'm in, and kidney stones is some of the worst pain ever, that was not even close to the worst part of my weekend because this game, watching this game, was by far and away the worst part of my weekend. And this team...

has quit, and Matt Eberflus is a loser, and he needs to be fired, which he won't be, because the Bears will never fire a coach in the middle of the season. They have been around for 100-plus years. They have never fired a coach in the middle of a season. This team quit. It's an utter disaster, lifeless, garbage. Matt Eberflus is a loser, just full-blown loser. He is...

0-18 on Sundays on the road. That was a crazy stat when I saw that. It took my breath away. He has won three road games in the last three years. At the Commanders on Thursday Night Football, at the Patriots on Monday Night Football, and then he beat the Vikings on Monday Night Football. He is 0-18 on the road on Sundays. He's never won...

Ace, Matt Nagy, Matt, Matt Nagy. They're all the same, by the way. They're all the same. Matt Nagy, Mark Trestman, Matt Eberflus, John Fox are all the same. Matt, they just fucking, all they do is hire just fucking pussy head coaches that are just can be bossed around and they suck and they just don't, they're not leader of men. Matt Eberflus has never gotten on a plane with his team on a Sunday and

Being like, hey, we feel good. I guess they did beat the Jaguars. That was technically a home game in London. In London, yeah. But think about that. He's never gotten on a plane on a Sunday, been like, great win, boys. Never happened. That's insane. It's crazy. 0-18. That's a huge sample size, too. He's a loser. I agree with you. Matt Nagy. Sorry. Matt Eberflus. They're all the same. Loser. He's a loser. He...

I knew he was a loser. I've known he's been a loser, but I was like, listen, I'm going to trust Ryan Paul's like whatever. You're going to have to go with this. I had these problems last year, but it's like, fuck it. We're all in. We're going to just do it with Matt Eberflus. He got a fucking haircut. He went on hard knocks. He got funked up. Shout out our guy. Funky actually is legit.

Matt Eberflus is a fucking loser, though. He's a loser amongst losers, and he's just perfect for this Bears organization that's run by losers, and they're not serious, and it's just so depressing to be back at this spot. Credit to Matt Eberflus, though. You almost said Nicky again. I almost did. Credit to Matt Eberflus. He did say, that's on me again this week. Yeah. Well, no, he didn't say that last week. He said, it starts with me.

After he got bullied into saying it. After he got bullied into saying it. He didn't say it for three days. Okay, so this is improvement. Just like he didn't make a decision on Tyreek Stevenson for three days and basically got bullied into benching him and then that became a whole story. And then Tyreek Stevenson bullied him for benching him. It...

The guy can't make a decision. But he did take responsibility for the play right before halftime this week. That was the quit play. It was the quit play. And he said, that one was on me. Hand up. I called a pass defense and left us exposed to that run.

does that show that he's learning not only because he's able to take responsibility so much faster and then also does it show that he's learning because at the end of a half instead of trying to give up or letting the other team have those easy 10 yards yeah to put them in hail mary position he played a pass defense yeah so he adjusted from what he did last week and then got absolutely torched on a run this week he's so bad he's bad he's so bad he's i i

I'm not saying I told you so to you, Big Cap, but... I knew it was bad. I had to go with it. What are you going to do? No, I know you did. I'm saying that the Bears are idiots for keeping morale. Yeah, no shit. I knew that. But once they made the decision, I wanted...

Who was at the front of the line trying to get Jim Harbaugh? I made shirts for it. Jim Harbaugh would have changed everything about this franchise. But they would never bring an alpha in who would command the, would walk into House Hall and be everyone's boss. They wouldn't let that happen. After your team makes a decision to bring him back, you can't just be like, fuck Matt Eberflus for the next nine months. You've got to just basically be like, hope this works out. And then knowing all too well that you'll end up exactly at this spot where it's like, get this fucking guy out of my life.

Get Shane Waldron out of my life? Listen, I like Ryan Pulse for what he's done for this roster, but if he stays loyal to Matt Iberflues, that is an insane, insane indictment on his decision-making. Because already we're looking at the offensive line that is just so, so... I mean, I know people are going to want me to bash Cale Williams. I'm not changing on Cale Williams. Could Cale Williams get ruined by what's happening with Matt Iberflues in this offensive line? Absolutely. I'm not changing on Cale Williams.

The offensive line, the Arizona Cardinals, they have no pass rush. Twice this entire season, they had three sacks or more in a game. They had three sacks in three consecutive plays today. Yeah, that was a bad drive. That's how fucking bad this offensive line, this play calling. Shane Waldron goes into every game with just like it feels like he's going on vibes.

There's just no rhyme or reason. I mean, I knew we were fucked once Montez Sweat was out before the game, but the defense got gashed finally. And I think that was the point where it's like for the first part of the season, even last half of last year, you could at least hang your hat on. Matt Iberfalus is doing a great job with the defense. The defense has turned around and been an elite defense for, like I said, the last half of last year, first half of this year. They've been a top 10 unit defense.

Today they quit. Today they quit. And you saw it all week with all the people, you know, Jalen Johnson and Bayard and Cole Kmet all saying like, hey, we got even Caleb Williams like we got to be a player-led team. Essentially saying we don't have a coach. Yeah, and Mattie Rufalus got lucky too at the end of this game because Caleb should not have been in for that last series. Such a fucking moron loser piece of shit. And Caleb, he went down awkwardly. I think it was the last play of the game.

But it could have been a lot worse. It could have been like fireable on the, like if they, if they didn't fire Matt Eberflus, if he got his quarterback injured in a game like this, then they're just never going to fire the guy. It would have been like the worst coaching decision of the year in the NFL. They just, yeah, they, they played like they played soft. They quit. They look afraid. They look lost.

The Cardinals, and credit to the Cardinals. Cardinals, I think, they're a good team. Kyler didn't even have to be hero Kyler today. They just ran the ball down our throat. He made the plays when he needed to make, but it wasn't like Kyler had to run around and make incredible plays. They just lined up and just beat us. The first half, they were running the football down your throat. Down our throat. The next-gen stats, 16 different Cardinals got a pressure against the Bears on Sunday.

The Cardinals had a 26.6% pressure rate going into the game. They pressured Caleb Williams on 46% of his dropout. You say 16 Cardinals? 16 Cardinals. That's so hard to do. They're like pulling guys off the bench being like, hey, you want to get a pressure? Go ahead. Just get in the game. 46.6% pressure rate. That's got to be the most amount of players to get a pressure in an NFL game, right? Since 2018.

Only in those six years. Yeah. That seems just insane to me. It's just an all-out disaster. I'm so, so... Like, I'm sick. It was...

If we didn't have to stream the game, I would have turned the game off because it was such a gross, gross watch. And the team has quit, and Matty Berfuse has to go. Has to go. They will not fire him in the middle of the season because the McCaskies run the fucking organization like it's 1925, and it doesn't fucking matter to them. And we'll probably hire another weenie as a head coach. I'll get my hopes up that it's Ben Johnson, and then we'll be like...

Oh, you know, the defensive coordinator for the fucking Panthers did a pretty good job this year. Let's hire him. Yeah. Oh, fuck. This, you know. Oh, did you see the offense for, you know,

You know, the offense for the fucking... I don't even know. Like, oh, the Cowboys offense actually turned around at the end of the year. Let's hire the offensive coordinator. It's so stupid. You know what? You know who's good on TV? Jason Garrett. Let's get him back. It's fucking... I literally, like, daydream about what it would be like if Jim Harbaugh was the coach of this team. Because this team has talent, and they just are just...

So, so poorly coached, and we're just right back in the same bullshit. And Caleb Williams deserves better. And I convinced myself it was going to be different because what am I supposed to do? I'm an idiot fan, and I convinced myself it's going to be different every year, and it's the same shit. You just got to worry. You alluded to it, but you got to worry about them breaking Caleb. Oh, absolutely. It was a concern after the Texans game. It's now DEFCON, like, red, like, whatever DEFCON you do.

Because I'm convinced it's going to happen now. There was a moment during a play where Caleb was running around with a ball and he shrugged and threw his arms up like, what the fuck am I supposed to do during a play as he's scrambling? And at that point you're like, this guy is teetering right now. It's just they suck. And they're always going to suck because the owners are going to always do the same shit. And it's just going to be the same fucking shit over and over and over. And I don't know why I get excited. I shouldn't have ever gotten excited. I feel like an idiot, but...

Yeah. And just, and Matty was a loser. Get him out. Bill Belichick. Josh McDaniels. Bill Belichick doesn't like Caleb Williams. You've told me that.

He bashes him on the inside of the NFL. Mike Vrabel. Now that's a name. That's a man. That's a man who would come in and stuff all these fucking losers in a locker and be like, this is how we're going to play football. You need the guru offensive coordinator too, though, I think. I agree with that. Ben Johnson is, I'm going to make a little dream board.

And every night I'm going to kiss it. I'm going to kiss Ben Johnson on the lips and be like, please, Ben, come and save the franchise. What about this? What about a mix of what Hank's talking about? What about Vrabes head coach, Josh McDaniels, OC? That's fine. Mike Vrabel would be the most competent coach since Lovey. I mean, that's the other thing is like you look at what the Bears have had for the Mark Trestman, John Fox,

Matt Nagy, Matt Eberflus, they kicked Lovey to the curb. I understand time, whatever. He won 10 games, and we've been searching for that competency since. And you get one blip. That's all the Braves franchise does. One blip every now and then, lightning in a bottle, 2018. Oh, shit, this might be something. I don't give a fuck. Ryan Day. Fuck Ryan Day. No. If he could play Penn State every week, I'd take Ryan Day.

You know what? You know who they're going to get? You know who they're going to get? They're going to get Stinkin' Riley. And that's going to suck. Reunite him? Yeah. They're going to get Stinkin' Riley. He's going to bolt from USC, and that's going to be a disaster. And he's going to...

He's going to get Kale Williams playing good football and that defense is going to erode and it's going to just be like the Bears will then flip into a team that scores a lot and has the worst defense in the NFL. What would you say if this happened? You'd prefer that though.

Over this. Yeah, I just want to go into a game being like we got a head coach that could out-coach the other side. Hasn't happened in a long-ass time. What would you think, Big Cat, if the Cowboys fired Mike McCarthy? No. He does win games, but no. I can't. I've said too many things. You've said a lot of things. I've said way too many things. That would be the funniest outcome. For you. For me, personally, yeah. Jason Garrett would be funny, too.

Season's over. They're not going to the playoffs, obviously. They might not even beat the Patriots next week because this is quit watch. This is full-on quit watch. And then they play everyone in the NFC North. We're going to get our teeth kicked in every single week. We have a bet. We play the Lions on Thanksgiving. Do you have a mayor's bet between Big Cat and Hank? No. This team makes me sick. No.

Because they could have quit. I think that first half and the first half was a quit play. And I think this team, I think they know deep down they have a shit head coach who's a loser. And once the team knows that, like I said, the defense was the last to know because he is a good defensive coach. But once the defense figures it out, it's over. It's over. Whose line is it anyway for Patriots?

Patriots at Bears. Oh, at Bears? Bears, they've got the longest home winning streak in the NFL. I think we're probably four and a half point favorites. Maybe five? I think Big Cat's right. I think it's somewhere in between four and five. Bears minus seven. You guys are good. Oh, wow. Yeah, you're good. Wow. I'm just so down on this team. I don't know what else to say. I'm so sad. I'm so stupid. And all the sickos and perverts are so happy that they get to see this.

But the true sickos and perverts should know this is not the best way for this to happen. Yeah. Oh, you wanted it to be more perverse? No, I mean, the true sickos. You wanted it to be really sick. You speak for the sickos and perverts. You are number one sicko and pervert. We needed you higher before you got this low. Right, because I only got Jaguars four and two. Yeah. Yeah, that was it. That was the peak.

Hang the banner. Beat a terrible Jaguars team to go 4-2. We needed hope for it. We needed games that maybe were for playoff spots. At the minimum. But I... Okay, so I never... It's going into the season. It was like... Yeah, but I... No. Are we going to win the Super Bowl? No, no, no, no. No. I might have said some crazy shit over the summer, but I've been very clear. I even said I think last week... I think last week and two weeks ago, I was like...

If they don't go four and one in this stretch, which they didn't, there's no chance at the playoffs. So I knew this. The back half of the Bears schedule is gone. We're not winning games against the Vikings, the Packers, and the Lions. So that's revisionist. I think I said last week we're not going to the playoffs. When PFT said that we could play. Well, last week, obviously. Well, we were still four and three. Yeah.

Yeah, but I was talking about before the season. Yeah, you're right. Summertime, I do get crazy. I'm sorry that I care about football in the summer, unlike you, golf boy.

That's a fact. Golf boy. You are. That is a fact. You don't even know. I love golf. And I don't care about football in the summer. Yeah. My favorite part of football season is August because I can get excited. And the possibilities are endless. Hard knocks. And I get fucking pumped up and I tell myself it's going to be different. And then it's slowly the air comes out of the balloon as the year goes along. And then today it was popped. We got to get a good coach.

Yeah. Don't say we. It's never going to happen, though. It's never going to happen for Chicago. They don't. They will not hire a good coach. They will not do it. I actually do feel bad. Like we had Bruce Arians in the fucking building and we hired Matt or Mark Trestman instead of him. That's the Bears. That is exactly what the Bears organization does.

Bruce Arians went on to win a shitload of games with the Cardinals and then a shitload of games with the Bucs. And we hired Mark Trestman. I actually think that Robert Salah is going to be a good coach at his next stop. They'll hire Robert Salah. That will definitely be the coach they hire. 100%. They'll be like, yeah, he's fine. He's a great interview. Fucking coach defense. Ugh. Monsters of the Midway. 1985. You know who was on that 1985 team?

Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher. Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera as well. But Jeff Fisher as well. All right. Anything else? Cardinals are good. I'm buying on the Cardinals stock. I mean, the Cardinals. So the Cardinals. Yes. There's a good chance that the Cardinals make the playoffs.

I think they're a pretty good team. Yeah, four out of five. And I made fun of Jonathan Gannon. He's a good head coach. We got the wrong guy from the Colts staff. They told that story today. They're like, oh, yeah, Matt Eberflus' kids babysat. I almost said kidnapped. Babysat Jonathan Gannon's kids. So cute. We got the wrong guy. Again.

Would you recognize Jonathan Gannon in the street? Yes. Pew, pew. Explosives, of course. I've watched that video a thousand times. What if he's wearing a button-up and a vest? I don't think he can go anywhere without saying, pew, pew. It's just what he does. All right, here's a good thing. Here's one good thing that happened to me this weekend. The Lions beat the shit out of the Packers. And Jordan Love, so Lions 24, Packers 14. This is the only saving grace I had. The Packers also might be in trouble.

Jordan Love does not look healthy right now. And he also loves throwing interceptions. That one at the end of the first half was absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what he was thinking on that. It was a dummy, dummy play. What do Jules call them? Doidoi plays? Doidoi plays. Yeah, Jordan Love's got a few doidoi plays in him every game, it seems like. He throws some of the funniest non-James interceptions ever.

But the Lions are just inevitable. You can't stop the Lions. You can't. They've got too many options, too many weapons. It's not like they lit the scoreboard on fire this week. They played good football. They played good offensive football, but they didn't throttle you like they have in weeks past. I think they could have if they wanted to, but it was rainy weather, shitty weather, and they got up to a lead, and they're like, we got this. And they did a Dan Campbell where it's like the –

Packers chose to kick a field goal early in the game and then the Lions I think scored two touchdowns on fourth and ones yeah and that's that's what he does and it's Dan Campbell the way he coaches you know when they're going to go on fourth down they play they he's so they're so smart with how they operate Ben Johnson and Dan Campbell like they're

Their third down play sets up their fourth down play. Because they already know. Right. They know when it's still second down. Right. They're like, okay, here's what we do if we don't get this. We try to pick up some yards on third down. Then we have an easy fourth down play. It never feels like you get to a fourth down with the Lions and they're on the sideline being like hemming and hawing, being like, I don't know if we should go. They knew what they were going to do before that. One thing I've never seen them do is call the think it over timeout. Right. I hate the think it over timeout. That's the worst timeout that you can have in the biz.

Uh, Amon Ra was great again today. Yeah. He wore a green Bay sucks sweatshirt. I got to buy one of those. The green Bay sucks sweatshirt getting off the bus was pretty intense. Although I think he had green Bay as one word, not two, right? Yeah. Just pretty disrespectful to the city. Yep. Uh,

And then Jared Goff proved he could win an outdoor game in bad weather. Yeah. That's huge. Huge for Jared's confidence. Yeah, he was... And it was like... The Packers moved the ball pretty well. They just kept on shooting themselves in the foot with drop passes and penalties and all that stuff. And the Lions are a team that if you...

any like careless errors, they'll just punish you for it. I mean, you saw it with the pick six. That was just a bad, bad pass. And Kirby Joseph, I think that was his sixth interception this year. And the Lions are just, they're a wagon and they have, they're kind of running away with the NFC North, even though I know the Vikings only have two losses, but they

It feels like the Lions, I don't know how you stop the Lions. Yeah, Jameer Gibbs is just so fast when he gets the ball. So fast. So they put up a stat I'd never seen before, but I actually thought was pretty interesting. They tracked the speed that every ball carrier runs at the line of scrimmage. So crossing the line of scrimmage, Jameer Gibbs is two miles per hour faster than the league average.

So the league average is you're running nine miles per hour when you hit the line. He goes like 11 miles per hour. That's crazy. And you can see he squirts through a lot of small holes at the line. They just...

The Lions offense is, I think, as close to unstoppable as you can get if they're all healthy. And James Williams, his suspension is now over. It might be, but then there was also a report that the cop in Detroit looked the other way when they saw a gun in the car. Yeah, I don't know. Is it illegal to have a gun, I guess, for a car?

I think some... Not... Not registered. And not put away? It was not registered? I think his brother might have been in the car, and his brother had a gun that was registered to him, but then there might have been another gun in the car. Got it. And the cop was like, oh, yeah, you're Jameson Williams from the Lions. And his iPhone screensaver thing on his lock screen was like a big Lions logo. Yeah. And he showed it to me. He's like, look, I'm a big fan of yours. So now they're doing an investigation on that cop for whether or not he should have arrested Jameson Williams. He's a Lions fan. Yeah.

Lions are 7-1. 7-1 is the first time since 1956. What's the point of being a pro sports player if you're not going to get off on stops? Right. That's a real – like a sports city that had recent success. They would know you've got to look the other way. Yeah. Part of the deal. Jordan Love is not healthy. I don't know why they played him this week when they have a bye week coming up, but it felt dangerous to play him in this weather. There were a couple – And he looked not healthy. I'm hoping –

Look, I know Jordan Love's good. I'm just hoping that he just keeps throwing dumb interceptions because that's kind of all I have at this point. Yeah, there were a couple steps that he made on that slick turf where it was like, this guy should not be out here trying to cut on that with an injured groin.

And then Malik Willis, he's good. He's good. Let him play. And I know the Packers are not a bad team, but it did help me a little that they lost this game. The Bears, the Packers are on a bye, and then the next game they play is the Bears. They'll kill us by 100, and I'll have to fucking deal with that, and that will suck really, really bad. But maybe Jordan Love will keep throwing interceptions at really bad times. That's basically all I've got. Yeah.

It's fun to root for. Yeah. I don't think that the Detroit Lions necessarily need a pass rusher. They still probably would want one. I know everyone's like, they're going to get one. Yeah. I think at the end of... Think about it. What I'm saying is I don't think that they're going to overpay for a pass rusher. I agree with that. I think they're going to get someone because you do need at least an insurance plan, especially when it comes down to a playoff football game. The margins are so...

thin, that having a guy who can win a one-on-one battle in the fourth quarter can be the difference between going to the Super Bowl and not. Yeah, I mean, it'd be awesome if they got Max Crosby. Yeah, I don't think he's going to. Mark Davis loves him. Apparently they just reached out about him today or maybe yesterday. Mark Davis did say untouchable. They're still thinking about that. And I actually... Mark Davis might be the one guy that I think he might be just telling the truth. Yeah. Because he's...

Mark Davis doesn't feel like he's playing a game of poker. You don't think he's a shrewd negotiator? When it comes to it, it's just a business, and they don't take it personal. He's taking it personal. He's like, Max Crosby is like a son to me. Yeah. But then Tom Brady might pick up the phone and make a call and be like, hey, you got to do this. Oh, speaking of Tom Brady in this game, he got mad because Brian Branch got ejected for that helmet-to-helmet hit. Remember that one? Seemed like a pretty dirty hit. Pretty bad.

Pretty bad hit. Yeah. I like Brian Branch too, by the way. I think he's one of the most entertaining players in the secondary in the NFL right now. But he got ejected for that helmet-to-helmet hit, and then Brady started to say how that call makes no sense to eject him for it. Like, throw the flag, give it 15 yards, don't kick him out of the game. And then all the Twitter narcs out there

Mike Florio's of the world, various other aggregators out there, started pointing out that Tom Brady is technically not allowed to criticize officiating as an announcer. Florio. So what's the NFL going to do about that? It's funny because Tom Brady's gotten himself into a situation which is basically impossible, where he's not allowed to criticize the officiating as an analyst during a game. Or talk to the teams beforehand. Yeah.

Yeah, there's really no sense. Tom Brady's just hoping that nobody calls him out on it, and Florio's not one to keep his mouth shut about that. Yeah, I also like Brian Branch got a double penalty. Because he flipped the crowd off. He was flipping off the crowd on the way out and got another penalty, which is great. But yeah, the Lions are the best team in the NFL...

No, I'll say it. The Chiefs are undefeated, but the Lions are the best team in the NFL right now. Yeah, I agree. Like, the Chiefs haven't been winning like the Lions have been winning. Do I think that if the Chiefs played the Lions in the Super Bowl, would I take the Lions? No, because it's Patrick Holmes, and he would just figure out a way to do it. But, like, if they were playing next week...

You would? Yeah. If they were playing next week, I would take the Lions. Yeah. I think the Lions are definitely, without a doubt, the best team in the NFC, and I think you could make a great case that they're the best team in football. Yeah. Okay. Last two games. Max, Eagles 28, Jaguars 23. You guys almost blew this game. Yep. Also, you had two of the coolest plays ever. Saquon hurtling a guy backwards, and then Devontae Smith's touchdown in the end zone, which was incredible.

Yeah, those were both very high moments. They're a very good football team. Questionable coaching decisions up and down the board. Tell us about them. Tell us about them. What were the most questionable? Both of the two-point conversions, I'm actually fine with. Well, you got a penalty on one of them, right? We got a penalty on both of them. Yeah. They were both at the 1, which you just do that. Like, you get a ball at the 1, especially...

The tush push didn't look good today. We have a lot of linemen that are hurt. It does feel like Sirianni fell in love with the idea that he discovered where if you have a timeout in your pocket during the first half and you line up to go for two, just try to get them to commit a penalty. And if they don't, then call a timeout and kick the extra point. If they do commit a penalty, then guess what? You get to run the two-point conversion from the one-yard line. Yeah, no, he does love to do that.

He also, I feel like you guys need a new two point play. Yeah. Like a variation off the touch push. Well, he tried to do that. Yeah. And it didn't work. Yeah, that's true. The field goal at the end. The field goal at the end made zero sense. There were three options. It was fourth and two up five with, I think it was just over the two minute. Yep. There's three options.

Go for it on fourth and two. Win the game. Kick a punt. Make Trevor Lawrence go the entire distance of the field. Still up one score. Or kick a 57-yard field goal.

To make a one score game a one score game. And give him a short field. And give him a short field if you don't get it. Yeah. It's the same probability that he kicks that field goal that he does of picking up the fourth and two. But the fourth and two wins the game. And the field goal makes a one score game a one score game. Right. It makes it made no sense. Yeah. That decision made zero sense.

Yeah, the only really decision there is, no, you just go for it there. Yeah. I mean, you could punt it, but you just go for it. End the game. But the punt is... Field goal shouldn't even be an option. The field goal should not be an option. Correct. The decision should be go for it or punt it. Yeah. The field goal makes zero sense. Yes, agreed. But he won the game, and you got to give him credit. The team has looked a lot better at it.

coming off the bye. Yep. So he's got the guys in a position to win, but his in-game decision-making is...

every single week it's just the same discussion of like he makes the wrong decision every single time. There just needs to be someone. Big Dom needs to be in his fucking ear after every fourth down and be like, are you sure that's what you want to do here, Nick? You sure this is what you want to do here, Nick? Do you know what he needs? I've said that I need to create this software where when I put in my bets, it just reverses it for me without telling me.

and I never can figure it out, but I just somehow just win all my bets because I'm just reversing it. He needs to say something into the headset and have it just automatically be reversed.

Yeah, that would be great. Yeah. Where he thinks he's in control. You have his headset connect directly to Big Dom. Right. And then he makes his final call, and then Big Dom changes it. Or it's just some software that just translates it so his voice comes in with saying the exact opposite thing. Yeah. Yeah. The players on the Eagles were fantastic today. Yeah. They were fantastic. Your first half was incredible. Is A.J. Brown okay? Uh...

To be determined. That's very important. To be determined. That's very important. Also, the scoop and score is one of the craziest things I've ever seen on a football field. You mean when Saquon just fell? He got tackled and was down for five seconds.

and they did a scoop and score. They reviewed it and still gave them the touchdown. Saquon gets tackled. He falls on the ground. The ground forces the ball out. The refs rule in real time that he has not been touched down. The Jaguars pick the ball up, return it for a touchdown. Then they look at it like five times. It felt like the longest review ever. And then they just ignored the fact that Saquon's foot got hit out from under him, which made him stumble forward into his lineman and fall down.

And they didn't... Max, if they had fucked you guys over and you lost that game, you should have gone to drastic measures to protest that. Philadelphia should have. I wanted you to lose that game so bad to take heat off me. It would have been great. It made no sense. Like, we were watching it in the cave with no sound, and they kept showing the play, and we were like, oh, okay. Oh, okay, that's fine. That's just going to... They're going to... And then...

The Jags just started kicking the extra point, and then I just started freaking out because I couldn't hear what was going on. So I was like, why are they kicking the extra point? Why are they kicking the extra point? Did they do a pool report about it? Did the refs talk about the call? Because they have to answer for that, right? Yeah. So did they ever answer to it, Max? I think that they said because he hit the linemen, but that happens all the time.

Yeah, that was weird. It was very weird. They just made up a rule in the middle of, I think they just fucked up, and then they were like, yeah, well, here's something. That's what I think they did. They were like, here's something. But whatever, they won the game. Max, I was rooting for the Jaguars to win that game because I just wanted to see you go absolute nuclear. I wanted to see you at your maddest. Because of that goal. I was so close. I was so close. Steven Che was egging me on.

Which is one of the worst feelings in the world. Yeah. So state of the union for the Eagles, they're 5-2. 6-2? 6-2. 6-2. Cowboys and Commanders coming up. I'll ask you this. If you go 2-0, are you thinking we're the second best team in the NFC?

I'm thinking if we go 2-0 these next two. If we go 2-0, I'm thinking there's no reason we can't beat the Lions. Yeah. I love that. What if you go 0-2? Then we're in big trouble. Sirianni gone. Yeah. I mean, no. I don't want to... If they lost that game, the city of Philadelphia would have...

gone nuclear on Sirianni, and I would have probably done the same. He has got them playing much better football right now. The decision-making has to be better. The in-game decision-making has to be better. Yeah, I think that's fair. That's a fair thing to say. They're playing really hard, though. Yeah. The first half, I think the Jaguars had one first down in the first half. Yeah, the defense was humming. And then, I mean, still, even if you take away that...

The defense didn't give up a lot of points, and even on that last drive, they were working on a short field, and then N'Kobe Dean makes a huge play to win the game.

So the defense made big plays when they needed to make big plays. The secondary has been awesome, which I haven't been able to say about the Eagles for a really long time. Yeah, your guy from Toledo is awesome. Quinian Mitchell is so good. It's turning into he's a rookie and just he gets no targets. I think he had one target today the entire game. The quarterbacks are just going away from him. I got a question for you. A rowback question.

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It's full. He's been awesome, right? He's been awesome. Yeah. Since the bye, I think he has like 130 quarterback rating, 12 touchdowns, zero interceptions. Follow-up rowback question. RHOBACK.com. Use promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Do you think you wasted the Kelly Green jerseys on the Jaguars? Because I do. Yeah, I said that before the game started. Okay, all right. So that was a joke. Yeah. Those jerseys are incredible. Yeah. Why wear them against the Jaguars? I don't know, but...

counterpoint

That screenshot of Saquon lives forever, and it's so much thicker than Kelly Green. Yeah, good point. Good point. And Devontae Smith's catch. I didn't even know that it was possible to back hurdle a guy. It's so dangerous. He should not do that again. No. If anyone lined him up perfectly, he just gets rocked. It's like jumping over a car. It was crazy. He found himself. He didn't even think about it. He just found his feet in that position. He goes, I guess I'm jumping.

And to go backwards over another dude, I've never seen that before. And the craziest part is the spin move before that was incredible. It's going to be the least talked about spin move of all time. That was so sick. So sick. Yeah, it was just an incredible highlight.

He's so good. He's like, I think it's fair to say that he's on the McCaffrey level of like he's a running back that can actually make a difference in your offense. As long as he doesn't drop the pass like the Falcons game. Correct. But yes, other than that, no, I agree. Saquon is, yeah, you have to be ready for him. He is in that, it's McCaffrey-

It's Bijan. Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry is different, though, because Derrick Henry will just run over people and run past people. I'm saying McCaffrey, Saquon, Bijan, those three guys, if they're in space, you're fucked. If you're one-on-one in space. Gibbs might be like that, too. Gibbs as well, yes. Those guys are so special that when you just get them in space, the defense can't do anything. You can't tackle them one-on-one.

Yeah, he's been incredible this year. How many yards does Saquon have this year? I think 960. Holy shit. So he's also— 925. And he already had his bye. So he's on the same as Derrick Henry 2K watch. Who did you guys play last week of the season? The Giants?

That would be awesome. Because I think it's Cowboys-Commanders last week, I think. So that would make it... That would be awesome if Saquon... Yeah, so it's Giants at Philly. If Saquon gets 2,000 yards against the Giants, that would be special. You just got to stay healthy. Yeah. Pray for health. Pray for health. Yeah. Okay. Good for you, Max. I'm happy you won. No, you're not. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm not. It just would have been great because it would have just been...

It would have been a really good friend move. Yep. For you to take some heat off me. Sorry. Because, like, PFT's team is awesome. Your team is awesome. Even memes won. And then the one other guy who lost here just doesn't even give a fuck. That's not true. He lost Marvin Harrison, though. Yeah, he did. He lost Marvin Harrison. I was more locked into my game than probably anyone was on anyone's game today. You were locked into the football game. To the game? You were locked into the player. Yeah.

Yeah, the Marvin Harrison thing. I'm sorry, Hank. It's all right. That was tough. All right. Rams 26, Seahawks 20. To wrap it up, this one team had Geno Smith and one team had Matthew Stafford. Yeah, Geno Smith with a couple bad picks. He threw a great... He had a great drive to end the game, to tie it up. Yeah. What is it with the Seahawks? And I don't know if this is... Because this is one thing that, you know, we obviously are watching all the games, but every single week...

Without fail, you look up and the Seahawks entire team is chasing after a snap that's gone over Gina Smith's head or through his hands. What is that? The rain. Every week though. Yeah, it's weird. It's definitely strange. It happened twice this week, I want to say. This is a big win for the Rams. Huge. Pukunikua getting ejected in the first half. For nothing. We talked about Pukunikua is the funnest guy to watch without the ball in his hands sometimes. Yeah.

Yeah, sometimes he throws a little baby punch and the refs were staring too closely at him. He was not the instigator in that. He got shoved. I don't think it was a punch. I think it was one of those open-handed face shoves. Crazy ejection. Which is, yeah. If you're going to tell your player to hit somebody in the face, you want them to do the open-handed one and not the fist. Yeah. Smarter to go open-handed. I guess the one good thing is he couldn't get banged up.

Yep. Yeah, he was saved. They put him in preservative for this game. Yeah. Yeah, Geno had some bad picks today. And Matthew Stafford's overtime was just perfect football. Yeah. He played perfect football in the overtime. And the Rams, they looked deader than dead at halftime. What? Well, the Seahawks could have kicked a field goal in overtime to take a lead and went for it on fourth down. But it wouldn't have mattered. I don't have that much of a problem with that. Because if you kick a field goal... It wouldn't matter because they scored a touchdown, but still...

But they would have lost no matter what. Yeah, I just think it was – I didn't like that move. I have no problem with that move. I guess you could make the argument that the Seahawks offensive line has not been great, so it's like maybe getting one yard is not the easiest. But, yeah, I mean, you can end the game with a touchdown, right? And it was, what, fourth and two? It was fourth and one. Fourth and one? Yeah. Yeah, I don't have a problem with them going for it. It was like 50-50 coin flip to kick a field goal. I could see a lot of coaches kicking that field goal, but –

I just don't think you want to give it. Go for it. Yeah, you don't want to give the ball to Matthew Stafford. He's going to go score a touchdown. Trust your defense. Yeah, but it's Matthew Stafford, and he's really fucking good. I would like to try to end the game without giving the ball back to Matthew Stafford, and that was the way you could do it. Otherwise, you're just hoping he doesn't score a touchdown, which he then did no matter what. Personally. Also, your defense isn't particularly great.

Jackson Smith Najigma was awesome. Yeah, would he have like 150? He made just every big catch and then, what, Cooper Carver had 11 catches. But yeah, the Rams, I'm worried about my pinky. The Rams, Matthew Stafford gives you a chance in any game. Yeah, they unlocked Demarcus Robinson. Yep. The Rams do next man up at wide receiver better than anybody. It's a combo of coaching and Matthew Stafford. Yeah. Where it's just like, those guys, if you put...

Those guys on any other team, I don't think they'd be nearly as good, but because they're schemed open by Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford's throwing them the ball, they played to the best of their abilities. Yeah. But yeah, the Rams are now very much... I mean, it was two weeks ago that they were basically deader than dead.

And they beat the Vikings. They beat the Seahawks. And now they're 4-4 and in second place in the NFC West. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, let's see. What's the Rams schedule coming up? They play the Dolphins, the Patriots. So that's going to be probably 6-4. I'm going to be nervous about this. Oh, my God. They have the Saints still. They do have a tough end of the season. At the end of the season, they play the Bills, the

49ers, Jets, Cardinals, Seahawks. That could be tough. All potential playoff teams. All potential playoff teams. Right, Memes? Memes, today, without your team playing, because they played on Thursday, did you think that you got... Did you win today? No. Oh. We didn't because of Chargers. Chargers. Chargers. Yeah, but what about the Colts and the Broncos? Colts and Broncos both lost. Yeah, that was a win. That's big. That was big. Yeah. You can't think about the Chargers. You've got to think about...

You had three teams that you're... Or the Bengals, I guess, won two, so that's bad. But I have looked into it. Okay. The Broncos have a gauntlet. The Steelers also have a gauntlet. Steelers have the hardest schedule. You have to stop thinking Steelers. Yeah, don't think about the Steelers. He keeps saying Steelers back here. The Steelers are 6-2. Well, all the AFC North teams have to play each other still. Right. And that's going to eliminate...

That's going to get some losses there. Right. Two of them. I mean, we're not going to win. You're not going to catch. I don't think you're going to catch the Steelers. They could just fall off a cliff. Yeah, but you would have to climb an even bigger cliff. We might never lose a game again. Okay. All right. Yeah. All right. You play the Cardinals next week. The Cardinals are hot. They could look ahead past us. They could look ahead past you. Playing three and six Jets team. They just won four out of five. That's the beauty of playing possum memes.

They think that you're dead. I'm looking at it right now. Memes might not be wrong because if the Bills in week 17 have it all the way wrapped up, they might already be sitting starters. Yeah.

Oh, man. I mean, all the playoff probabilities on this website is a joke. The Vikings did win. It felt like they were sleepwalking the start of the game, but their defense looked back because they held the Colts. The Colts did not get into the end zone on offense.

Right, they had that fumble in the first quarter, right? Yeah. And then after that, not a lot. I'll be honest, I didn't watch most of this game because we were podcasting while it was going on after halftime. So up until halftime, I was thoroughly unimpressed with both teams. Yes, but I'll say this. Sam Darnold started...

I think he played very well in the second half and his numbers ended up looking pretty good and he was finding Justin Jefferson and the Sam Darnold might be a pumpkin. We can put that off for a week. Well, every time I looked up, Justin Jefferson was making a catch downfield. That's a good strategy if you feel like you're turning into a pumpkin. Just remember, oh yeah, I've got maybe the best receiver. Yeah, 137 yards. Okay. Okay.

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We got to get on this. Yeah, so this is a problem. So there is a TikToker in New York who found an injured squirrel. Peanut. Named him Peanut. He took him in. He brought him back to full health. It's a adorable name. And then, you know, by that... Great squirrel. At that point, it had been domesticated. So if you let him back out in the wild, then he's going to die. So he just kept him in his apartment, posted videos and stuff. Some hater...

reported the accounts to the authorities and the authorities showed up to his house unannounced like with a warrant and stuff took the squirrel took a bunch of documents and then

euthanized Peanut the squirrel. How? Memes has his hand up. Memes has his hand up. And Fred the raccoon. And Fred the raccoon. Don't forget about Fred the raccoon. I was saying earlier that raccoons have a terrible, terrible PR team because they're like the cutest animal ever and everyone treats them like they are actual garbage. Well, it's rabies.

Yeah, it's rabies. Rabies is what kills the cuteness of raccoons. But they're so cute. I agree. But that's the bad PR getting into your head that the first thing you think of when you think of raccoons is rabies when you should be just thinking, oh, they're adorable little animals. I think of Rocky. Yeah. I think of that old guy YouTube video in the snow just feeding the raccoons. Yeah. They're your best friends. Hank, how can you go into someone's house and kill their animals?

They confiscated the animal and they just said, we're going to kill this animal.

They confiscated it, and then in order, I guess, to check if it had rabies, they had to euthanize it. That is true. It's the most ass-backwards part about checking to see. Is that like the Salem witch trial? Yeah. Like, we got to throw them in the water, and if they come up, they're a witch? Like, being accused of having rabies as an animal is more deadly than having rabies. Yeah. It's 100% death rate. All right. So here's why I asked how, is because I saw this story, and I was like, there's got to be something I'm missing.

Because otherwise, this is the biggest tragedy, travesty of all time. I think it's just a Karen hater. So this woman is the worst. Like, the guy has a TikTok account and posts the videos. So someone with a stick up their ass is like, this can't be allowed. Oh, my God. This is the worst person ever. Yeah. Is his neighbor. Do they also have a TikTok account?

It might not be a neighbor. It might just be a follower that... It could be anyone. Oh, it could be somebody online that saw the video and they're like, I'm going to report you. They swatted a squirrel. Pretty much. That's fucked up. Yeah. That's so fucked up. So I hate this woman. Woman? I think I saw a picture. Something like... They doxed her. I didn't see that part. I saw that it was an anonymous reporter. All right. So whoever this person is...

You should get rabies. Somebody should call the Department of Animal Services on you. Yeah. This is crazy. So justice for Peanut. Man, I feel bad. And Fred. And Fred. I forgot about Fred. Damn. And who was the guy? Mr. Longo. And did he have kids or anything? Could they make the argument that the squirrel was endangering the kids? I just can't understand this.

Jesus Christ. This is horrendous. Justice for Peanut. If we have to make a shirt and profit off it to get the word out there, we will.

They got a search warrant for departments and a judge signed off on a search warrant for a squirrel and a raccoon and they took them and killed them. I don't want to say that we've got bigger problems as a nation, but if you are spending your time writing up a search warrant for a squirrel, you should be called a pussy by that judge. Yeah. All right. So we got to get on this case. I don't know. We're late to it, but we got to do everything we can and buy everything we can. I mean, I'm just going to tweet out justice for peanut.

Yeah, like... It won't bring Peanut back. They're dead. The animals are dead. What? Plot twist. Oh. Peanut was a Yankees fan. Oh! There's a picture I'm looking at right now of Peanut wearing a Yankees cap. Do you think there's a chance that Peanut asked to be killed? Peanut was like, take me out. Yeah. I can't watch this bum Aaron Judge strike out at the plate anymore. It's a fucking end it right now. Let me call the feds. Yeah, I'll call the feds on myself.

I want to memes myself. Yeah. There's this adorable little squirrel. He's waiting by the front door for you. Go pick him up. When was Peanut killed? Before or after the Yankees lost? Did Peanut have to watch that fifth inning? I think it was on Thursday night. Oh, my God. Peanut, that's the last Yankees game. Peanut watches that fifth inning. Oh, my God. This is now the ultimate tragedy. That is animal cruelty if you have a pet and you force it to be a Yankees fan. Yeah.

I guess we have to wait for all the facts to come out. Oh, it was on Wednesday. So it was before. So Peanut didn't see the fifth inning. He did not see the fifth inning. Oh, thank God. So Peanut actually died not knowing who won the World Series. Yes. Okay. And didn't know that Dak got hurt. The last memory that Peanut had was the Capo Bianco brothers. Which I'm sure Peanut was a big fan of. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Damn, that's depressing. Okay. Who's your who's back? Hank, anything else?

I like your pants. Thanks. They're velour. Yeah, I know. I was going to say, are they velour? Did you buy them? Why did you say that in a way that I'm missing something? I don't think you are missing anything. I was wondering if you bought them or if they were stolen velour. No. It came off the back of a truck. I've had these for a long time.

PFT, your Who's Back of the Week. My Who's Back of the Week is college basketball. Yeah. College hoops tonight. Big slate tonight. Yeah. I think almost every ranked team is playing, right? A lot of them are, yeah. A lot of them are. The big one's going to be Baylor-Gonzaga late night. But yes, college basketball is back big time. Maine and Duke, the Cooper flag game. Wow. It's going to be bad blood out there.

It's good to have different sports on. Oh, I love college basketball. The college basketball feast week is one of my favorite weeks of the year. And I lose everything, but I love it. I love it. All right, my who's back of the week is Philadelphia sports figures getting into fights. With various people. So we had two.

And I actually think, as a podcast, I think we take the side of both the Philadelphia sports figures. I think one's definitely cut and dry, the Kelsey one. So if people missed it, there was a – I think, was he at the Penn State game? Penn State game, correct. Yeah, he was just – why doesn't Jason – I guess he doesn't need security, but also, like, why was he walking with, like, beers in his hand? Like –

He's just a man of the people. All right, so the thought occurred to me after, I'd say, like six hours of just heavy discourse online about Jason Kelsey. You had some people saying, like, most people, I'd say 95% of people were like, Jason Kelsey did nothing wrong. Let the man go ahead. So to set the scene, he was walking, and there was a Penn State kid walking with his phone out, being a piece of shit, and he was like, your brother is a F-bomb for dating Taylor Swift.

And Jason Kelsey turned around, grabbed his phone, smashed it through the crust of the earth. Awesome spike. And then there was another clip after that he walked off with the phone and the kid was like, give me my phone back. Give my phone back. And Jason Kelly, Kelsey said, who's the F word now? Uh,

Which, again, I have no – like, that guy brought the F word into it. Yeah, fair play. He wasn't saying it's rock and roll. He was just saying, like, you brought this into this. Why would you be such a loser to, like, make fun of my brother and stick a phone in my face? So I stand with Jason Kelsey. Yeah, I think he was in the right. The guy had the phone, and he was, like, screaming at him and very clearly, like, harassing him and foaming around. So what was the thought that occurred to you? The thought that occurred to me was –

Was there any chance that was a viral ad for garage beer that just got way out of hand? Oh, maybe. The garage beer was prominently featured in every angle of every video that I saw. Interesting. And maybe it got out of hand and somebody posted it and then it was like, oh shit. Oh.

Oh, we've really lost the narrative on this one. Oh, because he was holding the he was holding the case. And I mean, this is I tweeted this out. But the first thing I noticed was him holding the case of beer with like his pinky finger and then also holding a beer in that same hand, which is not a guy that you want to fuck with. The guy that just walking around casually drinking out of his 12 ounce can while also raising the entire case up to his mouth. Yeah, that's probably a guy that can kick a lot of ass.

But yeah, the beer was prominently displayed in all angles. I don't think it was fake, but I'm very woke when it comes to stuff like that where it's like we've seen a lot of stuff online. It was. Yeah. I mean, I was just confused why Jason Kelsey was walking by himself in that situation. Like not again. I get he's a man of the people. What Hank? I think it's that crazy. We walk through. I guess so. Crowds. Yeah. And tailgates. Maybe he has security. He doesn't need security.

This kid was a piece of shit. There's no other way to put it. Kid was a piece of shit. Jason Kelsey was in the right. Also, Jason Kelsey is just like not someone you want to fuck with in general. I think he's just a pretty normal dude. Yeah, who just wants to be left alone. And drink beer. Yeah, drink beer. So respect to him. I did see people being like, do you not know what the First Amendment is?

The First Amendment, like Jason Kelsey, it doesn't protect you from Jason Kelsey smashing your phone. Yeah, and you deserve your phone smashed. So, Max, you're good with all this. Yeah, of course. The other funniest part is that the guy tried to fake step to him for maybe a half of a second. He was like, this is a really bad idea. This is like...

One of the worst people on the planet that you should be trying to start anything with. Correct. I think Jason Kelsey should be commended for not beating the fuck out of this guy. Yes. Yes, for sure. Showing restraint. He's literally just in his face saying that about his brother. The worst reasoning of all time, by the way, that his brother dates one of the most beautiful pop stars in the world. She's one of the most popular pop stars in the world.

Okay. She is. We don't want to make comments about her looks. I don't want to talk about her looks. Let's not reduce her. I don't see looks. Okay. I don't see... We don't see sight. I don't see looks. I don't see... I don't see gross revenue ticket sales. Yeah. I'm not... I don't... I don't...

I don't boil down Taylor Swift to looks like you. Also, Max, by saying she's one of the most beautiful pop stars in the world, that's going to have Taylor Swift fans mad at you. One, for commenting on her looks. Two, for not saying the most beautiful pop star. Yeah, whereas me, a guy like me, I don't see looks. All right. Disavow my comment. Okay, thank you. I admire her brains. Yep, me too. And then the other one was Joel Embiid shoved a reporter. Now, this one...

You could make an argument against Joel Embiid, but I am not because I am on Joel Embiid's side. This reporter, Marcus Hayes, wrote an article basically calling Joel Embiid. So this is what he said. Joel Embiid consistently points to the birth of his son, Arthur, as a major inflection point in his basketball career. He often says that he wants to be great to leave a legacy for the boy named after his little brother who tragically died in an automobile accident when Embiid was in his first year as a 76er.

Well, in order to be great at your job, you first have to show up for work and then goes on to talk about how he hasn't played and all that stuff. This guy's a piece of shit because you can write an article about Joel Embiid not playing, load management, being injured, and never bring up his son or his dead brother. Yeah, so the second part of that, saying in order to be great at your job, you have to show up for work, you can just take all the context of...

the family out of it. Correct. Joel Embiid wants to be great about it. He says he wants to be great at basketball. To be great, you have to show up. You can do that and do the hot take column where you're like, Joel Embiid is soft for not playing more. He's disappointing the city. You can say all that stuff, but then to just tie it into your family. And I haven't seen the video of Joel. Is there a video of Joel? How is there not video? There's definitely video. What's his name? What's his name? TikToks. Huh? What's his name? TikToks.

Oh, Jerry McCain. Jerry McCain was definitely doing a TikTok. He was probably dancing with Joel Embiid, shoving someone in the background. No, I find it very hard to believe that there's no video, but I think that everyone is on. Everyone outside of Marcus Hayes is on Joel Embiid's side of this in the locker room. So I'm pretty confident that everyone just was like, hey,

let's not release this because this guy deserves it the argument against Joel Embiid here is like you just shouldn't shove a reporter but again I'm not going to make that argument because this guy's a piece of shit you don't have to bring up Joel Embiid's family also fuck Keith Pompey for initially saying that he

punched is a punch yeah a shove and a punch well that's what makes it really different that's what makes me think it was like maybe closer to a punch than it was i that's why i want to see the video but there's a lot of people that were also in there that says that it it was like barely a show well they could just put the video out and put this case to rest no i don't i don't have the video we need the video yeah i gotta talk dm jeremy but once you agree that them not putting the video out leads to the conclusion that it was probably more likely worse than than just a shove

No, I think it was a light show. Now, I will say that Marcus Hayes could get me back on his side if he shows up to the next press conference with a neck brace on.

That would be funny. That would be funny. I just know that when Hank says, wouldn't you say, it's about to be a fucking banger after that. That's when Hank's deep in his bag of troll shit. Yeah, wouldn't you say? Wouldn't you agree that? Wouldn't you say? We need to see the video. And we are on Joel Embiid's side. Yeah, I think if he shoved him and it wasn't anything particularly violent, like there was no chance of him getting injured, if it was just a shove like, fuck you, buddy, if it was one of those, that's well within his rights. It was a big weekend for Philly sports stars, Philly.

following up like talk shit get hit yeah yeah and those are like our two guys yeah and like i have no problem with either because these guys are talking massive amounts of shit for no reason just being shitty people and joel and beads back it up everything he's done for the city he deserves a break max yeah i i agree everything agree yes and what exactly has he done for the city

He puts his body on the line and plays. Well, not if Jokic. Not if it's Jokic in Denver. In the playoffs. The whole Jokic in Denver. Joel Embiid fucking eats Jokic for lunch every time they play. Not in Denver. The fact that people nitpick that just because it's not on the road. Ducked him. Their numbers. Embiid dominates it. In Denver? Yeah.

Yeah, that's what the... All the fucking Embiid haters, in which there are plentiful, love to nitpick every little thing and find one re... Whatever. So what does he do...

Answer Hank's question. What has Jokic done in Philly? How about that question? What? No, the question... How about that question? No, the question was, what has Embiid done for Philly? He's probably won a couple games. He's probably gone out to eat. He's made the Philadelphia... They're on the road. He's made the Philadelphia 76ers a relevant basketball program. Did you say irrelevant? A relevant basketball program that when he... Program? Yes. Yes.

I always say program. You always get on me for this. Because I say every team's a program. The 76ers, a relevant basketball program. A relevant basketball program when they came from the bottom of the league. By choice. By choice. UPFT would love to be in the 76ers. But by choice. They did the process. I don't give a fuck. Every team does the process now. Every fucking team does the process. Since 2013, you think I've made the second round of the playoffs?

It doesn't matter, but they're still in the top half of the league every year. Where's Relevancy? They've made the second round. Yeah, same spot. Is Relevancy the second round? I mean, they went seven games with the Celtics. That's right. Yes. I mean, you're still contending. They're not good contenders. JLMB gets hurt every fucking year. Fuck you guys. I'm done with you. They actually had a 3-2 lead in that series, too. Game six at home.

I just want to know where relevancy is. Is it... It's definitely not the fucking Bulls. I know it's not. I never claimed they were. I would say that we probably talk about the Sixers the second most of all in the eight. I'm not even trolling. I'm just generally curious. Shut the fuck up. You're not trolling, you pussy. Of course you're trolling. It's the only thing you fucking do on that couch. When he says...

I've done so much for the city. You think Philly fans are thinking, yeah, you know what, Joel, you have. No, property taxes. He probably pays a lot. He's just saying he has done so much because he gets hurt every fucking year in the playoffs, and he plays hurt every fucking year, and I'm sure it's not good on his body long term. That's what he's saying. Got it.

He's a unicorn of a human that should not be playing as much basketball as he is, and he does it, and he's probably not going to be able to walk in 20 years because of it. So that's what he does for the city. But he doesn't have to play that much basketball. Yeah, well, now he's not doing it so that he can play in the playoffs and be healthy. Right, but he doesn't have to play that much in the playoffs either. We do make—what do you mean we don't make the playoffs? When was the last time we didn't make the playoffs, Hank? Tell me the last time we didn't make the playoffs. Well, I didn't ask that. I said, what if? He said, what if?

I can also barely hear what you're saying. Yeah, you took off your headphones. You said, what if you don't make the playoffs? They're going to make the playoffs. What's their record? Paul George is playing tonight. If the PFT, if you look it up, if the playoffs started today, would they make the playoffs? Okay, I'm looking it up right now. They're 1-4. Oh, 1-4. What are we going to do five games into the season? Well, it's going to be 1-5 because you're going to lose to the Suns tonight. Paul George is playing.

What's interesting is they are in second to last in the East. The Wizards would make the playoffs if they start tomorrow. Congrats. Hang a banner. Five games into the season, the Washington Wizards would make the playoffs. The Bulls would be the fifth seed. Wow. Congrats. Pretty crazy. Any more questions?

I just was wondering, like, he puts his body on the line, but he doesn't have to play that many playoff games. He also gets paid like a jazillion dollars. And he doesn't have to play that many playoff games. At max, he has to play 14 playoff games, right? We're done with this.

He does. Am I right? You said your piece. Am I right? He puts his body on the line for the city. He put his body on the line for the MVP and then he just stopped playing after that. That's not incorrect. It's like Joel Embiid and Cops both put their lives on the line for the city of Philadelphia. And he also doesn't put his body on the line in Denver.

USA though that was cool it was nice that his body was available to be on the line in the summer yeah it was nice for the team he actually he actually could have it would have been more apt for him to say I've done so much for this country yeah because he's won something for this country he's done yeah he's done just as much for me as he has for you Max more yeah it's true all right good show boys

But again, we stand by Joel Embiid. We stand by Joel Embiid. We 100% stand by Joel Embiid. I want that to be very clear. Yes, and Kelsey. We stand by both those guys. Also, the guy that... Maybe I'm being too woke about this. You know the guy that was talking shit to Kelsey? Hoodie, sunglasses, cap pulled real low. I'm just saying. What if it was a big viral ad? That would be the most ambitious, ambitious, ambitious ad ever.

to be like, just drop the F slur. Yeah. But also, it would have been a great ad. It worked. It was the talk of... Also, it could have also been a plant by James Franklin to be like, hey, can you get this video viral so no one can talk about me not beating Ohio State for the millionth year in a row? I think that was before the game. Yeah, but he knew. But he knew. Yeah, he knew. He did know. We are.

What was that? That's Penn State fans. We are. Numbers. 3. 5. Let's go 21. 4. 11. Oh, jeez. Hank just took Shane's number. Did Hank say 21? Yeah, he took 21. So it's true shit. It's Embiid's number. I wasn't... You're taking 21 for a year, man. You don't own a number. 15. Pug? 49. 49.

49. I love you guys.

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