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On today's part of my take, we have Coach John Gruden on the show. Awesome, awesome interview with Coach Gruden. We're also going to do our Week 8 Preview Picks. Every single game we're going to talk about. We're going to talk a little Thursday night football. I'm going to talk a little bit about the game.

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Today is Friday, October 25th, and the Los Angeles Rams could potentially be back, but we also hit on the trend finally. The Vikings playing off a game against the Lions go against any team that just played the Lions. The Rams win 30-20 because we had the most face masks that's ever face masked to end the game. The most face mask that's ever face masked? Yeah, it was a ridiculous face mask.

It was right in front of the ref, too. Yeah. And it was a very bizarre way to end the game. So much so that the guy that grabbed Sam Donald by the face mask immediately put his hands on his head. Yep. In the, oh, fuck, I can't believe I just did that. What a dumb boneheaded play move. That's international sign language for bonehead. Yeah. I'm a bonehead. He was just waiting for the call to happen, and it just never happened. It never happened. This is why...

there was a rule in the UFL that there was such a thing as a super challenge, which is a cool name. You know what super challenge is? No, it sounds awesome. It is. It's very awesome. You can challenge anything you want and coaches get to do it once a game. So you can be like, go look at this. Even if it's not technically quote a reviewable call, uh,

and a ref can go over to a screen, look at it, and be like, yeah, that's a fucking face mask. Easy call. The super challenge fixes that. Super challenge would have fixed this. So, yeah, I mean, I think the Rams probably would have won anyway, but it still sucked just because it was directly in the line of sight of the ref. He was maybe two feet away from a face mask that every single person knew. He literally got tackled by his face mask. Yeah. But now we have the Rams...

Kind of looking frisky at 3-4 with Puka and Cooper Cup back. Did the Rams just become buyers? I mean, all week we heard that the Rams were maybe shopping Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup.

Now they win this game. They've won two games in a row. They've got guys healthy. They look competent. I don't know. Well, the crazy part leading into this game was there were floating rumors out there about Matt Stafford being traded for Sam Darnold. Yeah. Which would have been insane if that had happened. As a fan of chaos, I was hoping that that would happen before the game because we'll never see that again. Yeah. And honestly, I think that the Rams would win that trade. I think the Rams would win.

No, I don't think the Rams would win that trade. It'd be very funny, though, if... You almost got me. It...

You don't think like Sam Darnold? Sam Darnold's good. He's just good now. Matthew Stafford's really good. Matthew Stafford's also pretty old. That's true. And Sam Darnold's pretty young. But the Vikings are trying to win right now, maybe? It would have been very... I don't know, trading Matthew Stafford to a different team and thinking he's going to win a Super Bowl. I don't know if that's going to happen. Well, and also the Vikings have J.J. McCarthy. So you're like, hey, we'll have Matthew Stafford for two years. J.J. McCarthy, back him up. It would have been very funny, though, to trade Matthew Stafford to another team. He wins a Super Bowl there. And then the Rams have a good quarterback that...

they can build with again. Yes. Again. But yeah, the Rams, I don't know, man. They next week they played at the Seahawks. That will be a massive, massive game because as crazy as the Rams are, as bad as the Rams start to the season looked and they had so many injuries, they're three and four right now. And the Cardinals are three and four and the Niners are three and four. And the Seahawks are at the top of the NFC West at four and three. Like, I don't know. I,

They're my pinky team. They're at the Seahawks, Dolphins at home, and then at the Patriots. They could win all three of those. That could be 2-1. That could be 3-0. Like, that's... I don't know. They just look different. When you have those two guys out there, Puka was everywhere tonight. I feel like Cooper Cupp didn't even really get going. Of course, he made... We were sitting there watching the game, and they were trying to, you know, salt the game away, and...

It was run, run, and then I said out loud in the gambling cave, I'm like, this is just going to be a perfect pass that's ridiculous to Cooper Cupp somewhere on the field, and that's exactly what happened. And right after that pass, I don't know if you saw this, but Matthew Stafford gave him a point, and it looked to me like Matthew Stafford was saying –

That was awesome. I got you, buddy. Almost like that's our last one that we're going to have to get. Oh, that's what it, that's what it looked like. That's your reading. The body language is like me and you, we did it again, but why would they sell if they're with a ride? If, if they're, I mean, I guess you got to see what happens next week with the Seahawks game, but why, why would they, they're in it? Yeah. Now they're in it. They're tied for second right now in the NFC. They're definitely in it. Like they are right in the thick of it. And, uh, yeah, with those three games coming up, they could be six and four. Yeah. And, uh, as for the Vikings, uh,

And also, maybe it's good that they got injured early. Yeah. They get healthy, like the Ravens used to do. Free agent signings. You get banged up, and then you get all your guys back. And, I mean, Stafford is still incredible. I mean, he missed that one throw to Tutu at well, but then he just followed up with a dime to Jamarcus Robinson. He had four touchdowns tonight. He's just, he's still got it. As good as the Vikings receivers are, I think that the Rams, their receivers are...

are that good in terms of how fun their names are to say. Yeah. Puka Nakua, Cooper Cup, 2-2 at will. Even to Marcus Robinson, because Marcus Robinson would be a very like, eh, that's the norm. But he threw on a D in front. Yep. As for the Vikings, 5-0 to 5-2. Not a panic, but especially because they have the Colts and the Jaguars coming up. Feels like those are get-right games for them. And the Titans. Oh, wow.

They play the Colts, Jaguars, and Titans. They play the best parts of the AFC South to play. That's pretty crazy. So it's not a panic. It's just you played the Lions last week, and then you're slotted to lose after that. The only panic is that their tackles hurt. Yeah. So Derrissaw went out. I think it was a knee injury. It didn't look good. No, it did not. And it also was in those situations where you don't want to second guess.

but you're on your own five-yard line with 30 seconds left in the half. Yeah. Maybe just kneel it out. I know that you can never be like hindsight's 20-20 there, obviously, but I think we should completely flip to being hindsight guys. Yeah. Todd Bowles is an idiot. That was egregious by Kevin O'Connell to not kneel the ball. Him and Todd Bowles should be banished to the fifth circle of hell. Yeah. We're just always right. Yeah.

Everybody knew he should be out. They should have taken that knee. Me, I never would have done that. No. Also, Justin Jefferson just continues to be the most ridiculous receiver ever because that catch he made along the sidelines was... I don't... I still... You said it exactly what we all were thinking. It was like, I wish the Rams had challenged it just so we could watch it more.

Yeah, yeah. Sean McVay, come on. Do us all a favor. We would have been able to see that replay probably four more times on TV in real time. Also, credit to the Vikings for getting their asses up to the line. Because I feel like McVay would have challenged it. Yeah. But that was the fastest I've ever seen a team get up to the line and snap the next ball. Yeah. But that was a ridiculous catch. Jefferson had a million catches, no matter if you had...

one guy on him or if you were double teaming him, he just gets open. Yeah. He's just always, he is always open. Yeah. And he's always open wearing that sick ass chain that he's got. That's probably worth like a million dollars. Yeah. And he brings it on the field. I, yeah. I mean, I think the one thing, yeah, the, the injury, obviously the offensive line, but the Vikings couldn't run the ball tonight. That was kind of their, like the death of them. Yeah. They just couldn't get a consistent run going. It felt like all night and they, they kind of need that. And, and,

We did find out the answer. The Vikings, I guess we found it out last week, too. No, yeah, we found it out last week, too, but they got to play from ahead. Yeah. Play for ahead. All right, anything else before we get into our week eight picks and preview? I got one thing. Hank, are you going to go undefeated as the Celtics? You're thinking that. 74-8. 74-8 is what you're calling it? Anything from Banner Knight? Are the Celtics good, or did they just play the Wizards? Hmm.

I mean, two games, two blows. Starters having to play in the fourth quarter, basically. Anything from Banner Night? Because obviously we taped early on Tuesday. Banner Night was a dream. So you were asleep? No, it was a lot of fun. Tears were shed. Very emotional. You cried? I shed a tear. I love that. All the other players, I think Tatum and... All the other guys on the team? Well, they were crying. It's like you see other people crying. You're like, damn, that's awesome. Yeah. You're like, damn, I got to go back to work tomorrow. Yeah.

So that's it? Did you get to see Coach? No, I was across. We didn't really cross paths. Did you lock eyes? No, he didn't. He didn't see me. Not even eyes? Not even eyes. Did Dave get a good pop when he was on the Jumbotron? Dave did get a good pop. Kai Sinat was there. There was some fake news out there. I heard different on TikTok. Yeah, they said he was boom. They definitely didn't boom. They showed Kai Sinat, who's like a biggest...

Twitch streamer and it was like kind of a and I guess he's a Knicks fan but it was like real life versus internet life like no one even reacted and they showed day right after and everyone started cheering I'm gonna say that I don't believe that woman who made one TikTok was like we booed Dave Portnoy yeah in Boston it's Boston yeah I don't think that's that happened they were saying pizza review

All right. So what was your one other thing, PFT? There's a new study that came out. I don't know if you saw this on The Athletic. Okay. A nutrition study in the NFL. Okay. They did a survey to find out which teams ate the most Uncrustables. Oh, yeah. I did see this. Because every team... Apparently, the NFL goes through at least 80,000 Uncrustables per year. That's incredible. Giving them to teams, which...

I mean, Uncrustable, it is the perfect snack. We might be up there. Yeah. Our office goes through... We go through, like... How many are in a box? 20? I think eight. No, we get the big boxes. The big ones? I don't know how many are in that one, but... I still think it's eight. There's...

They'll be opened and then on fresh Uncrustable Day, and they're gone in an hour. For a while, I probably ate two a day for lunch. It's just the perfect snack. It's awesome. So what was the record? All right, so teams eat 80,000 in total per year, and then they broke it down weekly by the teams that eat the most and the teams that eat the least. A team that eats the least amount of Uncrustables

New Orleans Saints. Oh, wow. That checks out. Yep. Team that eats the most. And by the way, the Saints eat 50 Uncrustables a week. So that's not even one per person. Yeah, that's lightweight. That's the ramifications being Cap Hell. Okay. And then the team that eats the most, the Denver Broncos. Okay. They eat 700 Uncrustables a week. And how many weeks? The whole season? 700 per week. For the season or the year?

I don't know where they eat. I think for the season. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Not 52 weeks, but. Right. Because I think the facility is probably shut down at times. But 700 a week is a lot. And maybe that's why they're playing so well. I'm asking that because I kind of want to see if we can break the record. I think that we go through. The only thing that's stopping us is that we just run out of them.

If I was like, we will never run out of Uncrustables, how many Uncrustables do you think this office would eat a week? I personally would put away, I'd say 20 a week. Okay. I mean, there's like, what? I could do 20. There's 70 people here? I think we could easily put away like 400, 500 a week. So that would put us in second place in the NFL. That's how much the Denver Broncos love Uncrustables. Second place is the Seahawks, and they're down at 320. All right, so next week...

Starting on Monday, I will make sure that we do not run out of Uncrustables at all for the week and we'll keep track. Yeah. For this office. I'll send out an email. I'll be like, we're doing a study. Eat as many Uncrustables as you want. We will not run out and we'll just see where we land. I predict we're going to be in the like thousand range. No joke. I actually do.

It's so good. Because I go look for them, and the only reason I don't eat them is because they're not there. Like, we'll run out all the time. Yeah, but when they're there, and I'm in the kitchen, I'm about to order lunch, and I see them, I'm like, fuck, I'm just going to have two Uncrustables. All right, so yeah, that will be my promise to this office next week, starting Monday. We're going to do just Uncrustable week, where it's like, eat as many as you want, don't feel bad. Don't force yourself to eat them. Don't take any home, although they probably take some home. You think so? They probably take some on the-

in the car ride. You think Bo Nix is like putting them in his backpack? Yeah, for sure. They do love white corners. That's what the bread is. Do you think, well, no corners. But it's white. Yeah, yeah. White edges. Yeah, yeah. Do you think that maybe that's what

Sean Payton fell in love with when Bo Nix opened up his backpack. That's what's full of Uncrustables. You ever seen Pulp Fiction with a briefcase? Yeah. That's Bo Nix's backpack. Yeah. It was just filled with Uncrustables. He probably takes them home. Payton. I can imagine Payton is a guy that like during football season, he doesn't eat any actual meals. Yeah. He just snacks. He just eats Uncrustables all day. Do you have to refrigerate Uncrustables or we just do that? You probably should. Definitely have to. And I also, I've already texted our office manager and said, we're going to need all of the Uncrustables.

Yeah, I mean, I'll go to Costco. I'll just buy myself. I'll bring the boo. Boo!

I think it's going to be easily 1,000 Uncrustables. Oh, I'm excited for Uncrustables. But we need to make it clear that this is not... Don't try to gorge yourself on Uncrustables. Yeah, yeah. Eat what... Just if you are hungry and you're like, what am I going to eat? And there's an Uncrustable there, eat the Uncrustable. But don't be like, I have to try to break a record. And I actually think you could lose weight eating Uncrustables. I agree. I agree. Peanut butter's got tons of protein in it. Yep. Bread is the biggest part of the food pyramid, which is really, really healthy and scientific.

Do you know what we need to get? Because here's the other thing. Grape holding us down. Vegetables probably. I think part of it is that our refrigerators in the kitchen. Not big enough. They're not big enough. And they're also like you have to look underneath. We need to get an uncrustable refrigerator that's just sitting on top of the counter. That's just stacked with uncrustables. Yeah.

Or you just get rid of Hank's pinball machine and just make that the uncrossable. Oh, yeah. That's a good call. I'm looking at my pinball machine. I was hoping that the weather was going to be a little bit colder next week because we could just leave them outside. Yeah, but no. What we'll do is we'll just take them out of the box and we'll just be like, this is the uncrossable fridge.

And it just has only Uncrustables in it. And just eat as many as you want. We're going for records. They had a great quote from the inventor of the Uncrustable. His name's Len Kretschman. Okay. He said, we're not recreating the atomic bomb here. We're trying to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Love it. Fucking nailed it. Love it. Like, that guy knows his product. He did it. He did it. All right. Let's get to our week eight picks and preview. And then we have an incredible interview with John Gruden.

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Week 8, no buys. No buys at all. That's a weird time to not have buys. I remember distinctly over the course of my many years playing fantasy football that I would always draft players like everyone would have a buy in week 8. Yeah. Everyone. Why do you not have a buy in week 8 this year? I don't know. It kind of pisses me off. Not that I'm upset about more football, but the amount of games. I'm mad because they did the two Monday night games last week. Yeah.

This would be the perfect week to do two Monday night games. Agreed. You now have given us, I think it's, what's the split this week? Is it eight and five? I'm not sure what the split is. I think it's eight and five. We don't have international games either. Right. So I think it's eight early, five late, which it's going to be a chaotic day. You're going to have to lock in. You're going to have to make sure you get some sleep on Saturday night. Eight and five is a lot. But.

We got some great games, and we're going to get through our Week 8 picks and preview. Let's start with the Philadelphia Eagles going to the Cincinnati Bengals. We mentioned this earlier.

on Monday's show, but it's a very weird scheduling quirk that both these teams played the Browns and the Giants as their last two opponents. And the Eagles are now going to Cincinnati. The Bengals, I believe, are still in must-win territory. They have to win everything. They're in must-win season. Must-win season. Fun, weird stat by the Eagles. The Eagles have not scored a single point in the first quarter yet.

this season yeah they don't get off to good starts i got i got a fun fact maybe the fun fact of the week for this game okay uh two out of the last four times these two teams have played each other they've tied tied the donovan mcnab yeah it's what that's one of them where he didn't know that the game could end in a tie this is big tie energy this yeah i would agree with that what are the odds if you bet a tie uh usually pretty high yeah 10 to 1 might have to spread 15 to 1 yeah but this one this one should probably be like 2 to 1

Yeah. On DraftKings because it's got big tie energy. They also Cincinnati hasn't won at home this year. That's crazy. Yeah. We also have Joe Burrow. We talked about Lamar Jackson versus the NFC. Joe Burrow sneaky putting together a nice resume against the NFC. So in his last 11 games against the NFC, he's 10 and one straight up.

Pretty nice. It's pretty good, yeah. He's 10-1 straight up in his last 11 games versus the NFC. I have a question for you, Max. First, let's vibe check. Must win? Three-way money line is a draw. That's a tie, right? Yeah. 60-1. 60-1? Plus 6,000. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Plus six. Yeah. 61. Okay. I was way off. Yeah. That's the best value on the board. I think halftime ties usually tend to. Oh, that's what it is. Okay. And overtime is a different one too, right? Yeah. That's what I was thinking about. Max, general vibe check. You know, we beat the Giants. So I'm a little bit more excited than I was the week before, but it's still the Giants. Yeah.

If we win this one, though, I'm all the way back. Okay. If we win this one, I'm thinking soupy. And you got... Oh, we're back in soupy. I love that. But if we lose this... Max, did you hear that? Hank just laughed at you. I know he doesn't think that. Hank, the Eagles are a good team. Why are you laughing at me? Because he doesn't think that. Yeah, he doesn't think that. He's just trying to...

He's trying to boast himself up. That was fake. That was fake as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, no, that was fake. You're not thinking soupy. No, I still have my doubts with this team. Last week, they looked really good. If they looked really good again this week.

I could see myself getting excited. But right now, I'm still not excited for this team, which is kind of like they're 4-2, coming off a big win. They beat the Packers, who everyone says is a Super Bowl contender. I should be more...

but I'm not. And I kind of feel like that's the way that most of Philadelphia feels about this team. And if they lose to the Bengals, it's right back to fire Sirianni, I think, in the Philly fans. If they beat the Bengals, I think most fans will be like,

All right, maybe this Sirianni guy is figuring it out. Yeah, maybe this is actually going to work out this week or this season. Yeah, I mean, that's just kind of how – it's a week-to-week league. Yeah, you're game-to-game status in terms of confidence in the Eagles. Yeah. Well, you've won back-to-back games, which is good. That's the first step. Correct. Against the Browns and the Giants. And it's been a long time since you guys have done that. Same with the Bengals. Yeah, so, I mean, it could be worse. It could be the Cardinals.

And I guess we'll get to them later. You know how long it's been now since the Cardinals have won back-to-back games? Forever. It's now three years. Damn. Yeah, it's been three years. So as long as we think that it is for the Eagles, it was November. And that feels like an eternity. Yeah. No, it's not good. But it could be good. But it could be good. It could be good. It could be good. It could be bad. So it's not good, but it could be good. It could be really bad. Yeah. That's high-level analysis. I have a question for you, Max. I saw an insane stat on X. Yeah.

from Brendan Deig. He said, Lane Johnson's the only offensive tackle in the league with a minimum of 100 pass-blocking snaps to allow less than five pressures this season. So of all the offensive tackles who've had 100 pass-blocking snaps, he's the only one to allow less than five pressures this season. He's only allowed one single pressure. And it got me thinking, is Lane Johnson on the Mount Rushmore of Eagles?

For sure. Because you won a Super Bowl. So who's on the Mount Rushmore of Eagles? Westbrook? No. We had this discussion yesterday. Reggie White? Reggie White, for sure. Kelsey? Brian Dawkins. Yeah. T.O.? Not T.O. McNabb? Freddie Mitchell. McNabb, maybe. But Lane Johnson deserves more credit for being maybe the best right tackle of all time. He's the best right tackle in football right now. What?

Kelsey. Kelsey. Kelsey, maybe. If I had to pick, I would say Reggie White, Brian Dawkins, Lane Johnson, Jason Kelsey. Okay. If I were able to pick my guys. Would that be the only franchise that wouldn't have a single quarterback on there?

I mean, I probably would put Nick Foles ahead of Donovan McNabb. You look like that little meme baby. Yeah. You don't think McVay is in there? No. Okay. I mean, it would be like Buckus, Walter Payton, Urlacher, Dick, I mean, Gale Sayers. No, there's no quarterbacks. We've had some decent quarterbacks, but I just like the other guy.

Those other guys are just legends. Yeah. Yeah. I was just thinking about it. That stat is insane that there's been no offensive tackle in the league that has allowed less than five pressures, and he's only allowed one. He has just been so consistently incredible at his job for such a long time now that I think it's because he plays right tackle and not left tackle that people don't give him credit. But he is a Hall of Famer, and he is just –

It's crazy. The job of an offensive lineman, if you're a peak great offensive lineman, the job is that you just never talk about them. But we should talk more about Lane Johnson because he is so great. And he's so instrumental in determining whether or not you guys win. Yeah. That's the thing about him. His win-loss record is incredible.

Yeah. I mean, Jason Kelsey was great. Jason Kelsey would probably tell you that Lane Johnson was more important than Jason Kelsey. I think he has said that before. Yeah, right. So that tells you everything. He's incredible. Who are you more nervous about, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, or Yoshi? I think Jamar Chase. Okay. It could have been Yoshi. I like Yoshi. Yoshi's a beast. If Yoshi's name wasn't Yoshi, would...

Would we be having this? Probably not. I'll be honest. He was born in Japan. That's kind of cool. The thing is, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation, but we should be having this conversation if his name wasn't Yoshi. Yeah. Here's the thing. Because he is playing really well. And you will know, like, he's had a couple games. He has Yoshi games where he just has two touchdowns. You're like, God damn it. I can deal with Jamar Chase beating me, but Yoshi beating me. Yeah, no, the Eagles are going to have to score a lot of points in this game, I think. And probably hold them to less points.

Yeah, but I think they're also going to score a lot of points. So if we are able to figure out a way that we can score more points than them, then I think that we're in a pretty good spot. So just limiting how many points they do score. And maximizing it as much as we can. How do you plan on doing that? Wanting it more. Yep. A.J. Brown, I guess just...

When in doubt, just throw a deep ball to A.J. Brown and just pound the rock with Saquon. Okay. Last question for you. How much does Joel Embiid being investigated affect the Eagles? That means nothing. What do you mean? It's an investigation. The Sixers are being—you said this to me. The Sixers are being investigated. Joel Embiid's being investigated. Is he on the Sixers? The Sixers management is being investigated. Okay.

About Joel Embiid. He's going to have to be deposed. Because they are trying to stop load management in the NBA, and the Sixers are just saying, fuck it, we'll pay the fine. We're still going to do load management. I love that the first game of the season for you guys, it's like investigation. Joel Embiid is missing a game. There must be something weird going on. The NBA is obsessed with the Sixers. Because Joel Embiid doesn't miss games. Where is your heart? Where is my heart? Where is the Sixers' heart?

Where is the Sixers heart? Is it in New Jersey? Is it in Philadelphia? Is their heart in the games? How would you like me to answer this question? They just want to pay the fines. How about you just have some heart and play the games? It's true. We're trying to be healthy for the postseason. What about the kids, though, Max? What about the kids that spent their hard-earned allowance money to go see their favorite player, Joel Embiid, play on opening night? What about just resting during the offseason like most professionals? They wanted to represent his country. Mm-hmm.

He wanted to represent his country. He wanted to represent his country of the U.S. of A. I just think it's interesting. Hank hates America. That's fine. I mean, that was two weeks. It's a long offseason. They had a long offseason. They lose the first round. U.S. of A, baby. I'd like to say something that's going to probably end up on the bonk list, but I just want to say it because it's ended up in my algorithm, which...

X. Hot tip to X. X.com, the everything app. It's fucking crazy. I'm curious how we're going to a bonk from here. Well, because I thought of load management and then there's this woman. Yeah, yeah. So it's not me that's just horny. Everyone's got it in their algorithm. There's this woman who everyone's trying to shame online because she basically did a video where it's like, hey,

Remember me? I'm the one who just did a video where I had like 23 dudes run train on me. I'm actually going to up it and I'm going to do 100. So if you want to run train on me, I'm doing 100 guys in a day. And I just wanted to say...

Hat tip to that woman for raising the bar. I've not seen this. You guys have seen it? How many replies are there? The British woman? Yeah. She's just like, hey, guys, it's me, the 23, whatever it was, however many. She's like, if you want to be part of the next one, I'm doing 100 dudes in a day. Do you remember that? And it's just like, reach for the stars. Do you remember that? I took down like...

40 students and 40 young men, and now I'm going to take down the dads. Yeah. You remember that one woman during the World Cup a few years ago that said she'll suck off everybody that replies to this tweet if England wins the World Cup? Yeah. Okay, so I'm seeing her right now. I went viral for letting 23 guys run a train on me. Next feat, 100 men in a row. Yeah, and everyone's shaming her. It's like, what? We can't just be ambitious anymore? Are we just stopping ambition in this world? It's sad.

Yeah, find it. Find it, Max. Oh, the first reply, Tiffany Gomas. Oh, what'd she say? She said, what in the entire, and I can't emphasize this enough, fuck, and then a gross face. Come on. Let's not slut shame here. No, she's just, she's upping the game. She, I'll tell you what.

If Joel Embiid had half the heart of this woman, he'd be a champion. That's a fact. That's a fact. This is a great Eagles-Bengals preview. That's just a fact. Let's talk about this girl who's getting fucked. And how it relates to Joel Embiid. Yes. And which then relates to the Eagles. Correct. Yeah, it's literally load management. It's load management. Where is she putting all this sperm? That's what I said. Yeah. That's why it popped in my head. But either way, I just...

Yeah, maybe Joel Embiid needs to take a page out of this woman's book and just think about, hey, I'm going to keep pushing the limit. Joel Embiid complains about playing back-to-backs. He complains about going a mile high. Yeah, go ahead, play the video. It's PG. The explanation is PG.

I went viral for letting 23 guys run a train on me with my friend Bonnie. I didn't expect her to look like this, honestly. If you want to check that out, you know where to go. But if you want to be part of the next one, I'm actually doing 100 guys in one day. So head on over to my Twitter to find out how to apply.

Putting your hard hat on, going to work. I appreciate that. That's a woman that's making 100 guys' days better. Joe Embiid, take notes, bro. When you say going viral for having 20 guys fuck me, I instantly just think STD. Yeah, I don't know if I thought STD. I just was like, whoa, that's a lot. The viral part. I think you just assumed, yeah. The viral part is what did it for me. Okay, so that was Bengals-Eagles. Let's do Ravens-Browns.

We have 16 games to get through, or 15 games to get through. Speaking of load management, Deshaun Watson's not playing this weekend. Deshaun Watson's not playing. Jameis is in. I'm so excited. This is a PSA to everyone out there. You do not know how many Jameis starts we'll get for the rest of our lives, so you embrace the ones that we do have. Listen, the vibes couldn't be better.

Just I have no idea. I'm just speaking on knowing Jameis and not knowing Deshaun Watson, thankfully. But that locker room has to be so pumped. I feel like they have a chance because Jameis is going to take a chance. Yeah. And also just you mentioned the vibes like Deshaun Watson, all time bad vibes this year. All time. He never smiled. They never had any fun on the field with Jameis. You're going to be having fun. It's going to be crazy. You don't know what to expect.

I don't know what it's like to root for a team where Jameis is the quarterback of that team, but I think that he is the best player in the NFL to be playing for a different team that you don't root for because he makes any game that much more exciting. Yes. And I had a thought about Jimmy Haslam earlier. He is probably the worst owner in the NFL right now. It's like him and Tepper fighting for the crown. Is there any chance that the NFL steps in and makes Jimmy Haslam sell the team? He should sell that team. Yeah.

He should sell the franchise. And I'm not saying that because of Deshaun Watson and all his legal investigations and all that. That sucked. But we know that the NFL will turn a blind eye to pretty much anything that a player does. And it won't punish an owner for employing a shitty human being. Yeah. Right? That's pretty common in the NFL. The one thing that owners do not like is when you fuck with their money. Right? And Jimmy Haslam giving Deshaun that guaranteed contract...

pissed everybody off in the NFL. Like Dan Snyder was a world-class scumbag. They didn't do shit about it until they thought he was withholding money from them. And then they're like, oh, now all of a sudden we care about all this other stuff off the field.

I think that there's a chance. I'm not saying it's a high chance, but there is a chance that the other owners turn on Haslam because of what he did with the contract and set that precedent. And I hope for Cleveland fans that they get to experience that. He should sell the team as just a fan of the sport. He's fucked everything up in that town. So I'm rooting for the owners to turn on him and to kick him out and to get somebody else in there that will actually take care of the franchise. It's tough, though. Think about how hard it was to get to.

Dan Snyder out. Yeah, but when you fuck with their money, that's when they start caring. I know, but they just... Rich guys just like other rich guys, and if he has friends that are other rich guys, I don't know. I mean, I agree with you, but I just... It's harder than... But you know what we could do? Have you guys seen... This is the new...

Remember it used to be the Bucks won the NFC North slash Central more recently than the Lions until the Lions. Wait, the Lions won it last year? Yeah, the Lions won it last year. That was always the meme. The Browns, I think it's the Jaguars, the Titans, the

And the Oilers have all won it more recently than the Browns. The Oilers. The AFC North slash Central because it was the Central and then the North. Yeah, it's bad. So start memeing that. Start memeing that all the time. Put some pressure on this Haslam guy. Get him out of there. Yeah, we've got to put some pressure on him. For the good of the league. And we've got Ken Dorsey taking over play calling this week. Ken Dorsey. I guess he just vibes better with Jameis. Yeah, I think...

I think the Browns are going to be live in this game. I mean, the Ravens are a wagon. The Ravens have looked really unstoppable, their offense at least. Their defense is still not the best. And Marlon Humphrey, I think, is out for at least a couple weeks. But, yeah, I think the Browns are going to get like it's almost like a one interim head coach bump. They're going to get a quarterback bump here.

By the way, I have a couple stats for you. First one is Derrick Henry ranks this season. He's first in rushing, first in rushing yards, first in rush TDs, first in yards per rush, first in rush first downs, first in longest rush, first in scrimmage yards, first in scrimmage TDs.

Still very, very good. That's pretty crazy. Yeah. He's first in everything. Also, Mark Andrews scoring two touchdowns on Monday night became the all-time leader in reception touchdowns for the Ravens, which I was like, damn, that's kind of sad that a tight end with 43 touchdown receptions is the all-time receiver in franchise history. And then kind of similar to the quarterback conversation we just had with the Bears, I was like...

Let me look this up, and it was very sad. It's very bad. And the Giants, too. The Giants, Imani Toomer. So who did he pass? Did he pass Corey Smith? Todd Heap, yeah. He would be the next guy up. If you look at what the Ravens have done with their wide receivers for the last 15 years, they've just been committed to not ever having a good wide receiver. Yeah. Trey Flowers, he is very good. He is very good. Zay Flowers. Sorry, Zay Flowers, yeah. And then the last stat I had, this is a reminder. Who's going to be in charge of reminders now? I have the reminder in the—oh, no.

Never mind. I will. What was that? I had the reminder in today for the Hammer the Rams. Oh, okay. Are we hammering the Rams? So you're the reminder guy? Are you the reminder guy? I will be. Okay, so it sounds like you're the reminder guy. Lamar Jackson in eight career games on Monday Night Football is 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions, 1,700 passing yards, 681 rushing yards. 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions. They play Monday Night Football November 25th at the Chargers.

The Harbaugh Bowl. Just take all the overs for Lamar, everything. That's a pretty insane stat. Yeah. 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions on Monday Night Football. Yeah. I'm just excited about Jameis. I'm so pumped. So pumped for Jameis. Since 2013, this will be the 64th game played by a backup quarterback for the Browns.

The most in the NFL over that span by over 15 games. That's crazy. It's insane. Those poor fans. Insane. I feel like Browns fans are going to be excited again. Yeah. For at least a game. Yeah, for at least a game. You're going to get drunk and be happy before the game as opposed to just getting drunk and feeling like you're walking on the green mile to your execution going to the stadium. Is Myles Garrett going to get traded? I don't know.

I don't know. I feel like Garrett and Crosby are the two names. Last night. They probably should. Last night, I went to the Out of Order show because I was emceeing it, and a guy sitting next to me just was like, hey, Big Cat, have you heard anything about Miles Garrett to the Packers? And my heart dropped for a second. That'd be tough. Yeah. It'd be also very mean to trade him this close to Halloween because he's probably got his lawn set up with everything, and he's gone all out. He's going to have to take those decorations down. The trade deadline, I think, is next week, though.

Yeah. I think it might be on Halloween or it might be the day before. I thought it was on election day. Oh, is it? Yeah, I think trade deadline might be on election day. NFL trade deadline. Oh, yeah, you're right. November 5th, 4 p.m. Eastern. Okay, so yeah, trade them after Halloween. Oh, in the past, it was October 31st. Yeah. Last thing about the Ravens, as good as they've been and they've been incredible-

Keaton Mitchell just started returning to practice. Remember him? Yeah. So that adds another weapon for that offense that has just been rolling over people. Yeah. Marlon Humphrey. He had, didn't he have two picks? He had two picks and then hurt himself. Yeah.

I thought that Marlon Humphrey, like in every off season, I assume that he's retired just because of his Twitter account. He tweets like, or excuse me, X.com. He X is like a retired guy. He's like promoting Ethereum and like all this weird shit. He's out of pocket on, on Twitter. And I absolutely love the guy, but he's the guy that psychs me out. And I'm like, wait, did he retire or not? Yeah. Uh, what, what do you got Hank? You had something. Oh, uh, what'd you have? Max, did you lean in? Okay. I read that wrong. All right. Uh, Titans at lions. Uh,

I'm going to fucking do it again. I'm going to bet the Titans. You're addicted. I didn't last week. I didn't last week. Did you think that they got better by getting rid of Hopkins? No, I saw a stat. Well, no, I think it's just neutral.

I think DeAndre Hopkins is going to be good for the Chiefs, but it was just neutral. That's like the classic Titans move too, isn't it? They love old wide receivers. They love old wide receivers that were very, very good for other teams. So if you look at their history, they've signed at the end of their careers Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, Decker. T.O.?

I don't think he played for the Titans, but it fits that vibe, right? T.O. definitely played for the Titans in my brain. Randy Moss played for the Titans. I said Randy Moss, yeah. Eric Moulds, they love getting old wide receivers that don't do shit for them. They never, never learn their lesson. You know what? Let me be the first to report. Amari Cooper will play for the Titans at some point at the end of his career. Yeah, but that's like 10 years from now. He's still sneaky, kind of young. Yeah, I don't...

All right, so here's the case, and I don't know if I'm actually going to do it, but here's just at least the case. The Lions, for the first time in franchise history, are now the odds-on favorites to win the NFC. The Lions are also, this is the first time that they are a double-digit favorite under Dan Campbell. They just came off a very emotional two weeks where they killed the Cowboys, beat the Vikings in a back-and-forth shootout. They are now number one in the NFC North.

They can beat the Titans with their hand behind their back. I'm not saying that the Lions are going to lose this game. I'm just saying 11 and a half is a lot of points because they pay those guys too. Titans run defense is pretty good, and that's kind of where – and then I just fall off a cliff because then if you ask me, like, name one other nice thing about the Titans, I'm like, can't.

I can name one. Adam Schefter is very close to their general manager because he's starting to just gas up their transactions online. So he's giving credit to them for, I guess they've traded a linebacker and some draft picks and ended up with more draft picks and a better linebacker. So he's like, look between the lines. This is how you build a team right now. They're building a team the right way. They might have started tanking. This might be if you're a Titans fan. Oh, they definitely have. I think Brian Callahan said our roster is going to be...

picked over yeah so they're gonna build for the future i i do agree with you that it is a lot of points it's just a letdown spot of letdown spots and again i think the lions will win the game i just don't know like if they start a little slow who knows 11 and a half points i this is stupid i'm i i'm gonna do it and i'm gonna hate myself for doing it because the lines are gonna be up 14 nothing and then we'll just be like okay now that's over it feels like tim patrick season right

Yeah. Tim Patrick, Allen Robinson. So Jamison Williams suspended, but also was at practice. Yeah. They're letting the rope down for him is what Dan Campbell said. He's got to pull back up. Yeah. He lost grip of the rope. He had worked his way back up, but we're going to wait here and that rope's going to be waiting for him. Yeah. So I don't know if he's playing or not because I think then there was an idea that he was appealing. I don't think that he was appealing. But he was at practice. I think he's going to start his suspension this week, I think.

Although, you made a good point that if he really wants to return fast, the two games would be the ones Thursday night. Is there anything about an appeal, Max? Okay, so they're prepared to not have him. It feels like the suspension was announced and then it was...

by ESPN, but then the NFL didn't announce it. And it was just, the whole thing was kind of weird. I think he's going to, he's going to sit out this week. All right. I'm assuming he's going to be out. Uh, all right. Next up Cardinals dolphins. Tua is back. We think, uh, Tyree kill said that it, he wanted to cry. Uh,

He said he looked great, felt like old times. Me and him connected on a few deep shots today, and that kind of got me feeling good today. I missed that. I missed him. I told him I got to take him and his wife to dinner because I missed him so much. Shit was so beautiful. That shit almost made me cry today. Like just having him in the lineup, having him call the plays, having him direct the offense, like just hearing his voice.

Again, we'll say it seems like a really nice guy, but that's a Tim Boyle effect. Tim Boyle's making grown men cry. Yeah, it feels like it's back to having a semblance of an actual offense right now. Yeah. Which I'm happy for Dolphins fans that you get to watch maybe a more entertaining game. It's going to feel weird seeing Tua out there, though. Every time he gets sacked, I'm going to be like, every time he tucks and runs with the ball, I'm going to be like, be careful, Tua. Be careful, Tua. Yeah. It's because we've seen...

All of his concussions have come in like standalone games. Yeah, so he should be good, knock on wood, for this game. Yeah, because all eyes aren't on him right now. No, no. I like the Dolphins in this game. I think short week for the Cardinals, cross country. You mentioned it. Cardinals haven't won back-to-back games. So they haven't won two weeks in a row in three years. They did win technically back-to-back games in like November of that season. Yeah.

But there was a bye week in between. Oh, that's a good call. So like two weeks in a row. It's been November 24th, 2021. That's crazy. So Dolphins would be, if we're going on history here, that would be a smart pick. Also, did you notice on Monday Night Football, they had Kyler run the tush push twice in a row? Is he the worst quarterback to do a tush push with?

Because their play caller was defending that. He was like, we like that play. We're going to keep running it. It didn't work either time. Yeah, he probably is. Unless you do... Yeah, Bryce Young. Bryce Young would just get... I think he would... There's a chance if he did the tush-push...

they would, the rest would come and do the pile and he'd just be dust underneath. He just crumples into his shoes. Like when an anvil drops on a cartoon character, he's in the ground and then he starts standing up and makes the accordion sound. Yeah. Yeah. They could have Marvin Harrison jr. Just pick up Kyler and throw him over the line of scrimmage. That'd be sick. That would be the better play to run. Yeah. Uh, I liked the dolphins in this game though. Uh,

My friends at Sports Info Solutions, they have the Dolphins as the second best in terms of pass blocking. The Cardinals are 25th in terms of D-line. And they got injuries. So I think the Dolphins are going to be back. I think this is the week we're going to be like, Dolphins back? So you remember when they scored 70 points against the Broncos? Yes. Last year? Yes. Okay, so the Dolphins now have 70 points through their first six games.

Six games, 70 points. Last year they did that in one game. Tim Boyle. Tim Boyle effect. Tim Boyle effect. Okay, next game. Wait, I lost my notes. I got it. Jets and Patriots. Memes, I'll start with you. Which story do you want to start with? Aaron Rodgers getting another injury added to him in his body or Aaron Rodgers eating his own boogers?

Uh, we'll go injury. Okay. So Aaron Rogers has a hamstring injury that has been added to his ankle and knee injuries. I'm going to say it. He might be getting old. You think he's injury prone? I think he might be getting old. PFT. Every injuries happen. He's not that old. Okay. He's pretty old. He, he literally added a hamstring injury to his ankle and knee injury.

Yeah, he might be old. But would you have the same leg, have all those injuries or have them like sprinkled around like right hamstring, left ankle, right knee? I think you need him sprinkled. Also, he is that old. He's going to be 41 in a month. Quarterbacks don't. Tom Brady fucked everyone's brain up.

Yeah, I saw Jules say that. He's right. He said that about he's he said it about Tom Brady going to the Bucks and Matthew Stiver going to the Rams and being like instant Super Bowl. He fucked up teams being like we're a quarterback away. We can get the old quarterback. But just the age thing is what has fucked everyone up. Like 40 41 is an old quarterback.

Yes, he's old. Okay. He's old. I can't believe we had to drop stats on you of his age. He's old. But let's talk about the booger thing because the Jets have come a long way. Back in the day, they'd have Mark Sanchez and he would take the boogers out of his nose and then wipe them on Mark Brunel's jacket. Now you've got their quarterback taking his boogers out of his own nose and then swallowing them. What did you think when you saw that?

Aaron said he did not eat it. Okay. I saw him eat the booger. He said the other angle will show you that he did not. Deep fake? It's a deep fake. Can I half defend Aaron Rodgers in this? Don't eat your boogers.

I don't like when people shame for picking your nose. Everyone picks the fucking nose. Picking your nose is fine. Everyone in the world picks their nose. If you say you don't pick your nose, you're a fucking liar. It's the same thing as people who pee in pools. Like, oh, I don't pee in pools. No, you're a liar. Yeah, picking your nose is fine. But the conversation is like the eating the booger is the part that concerns me. Yeah, he shouldn't have eaten his booger. He said he has never eaten a booger.

But we saw him. We didn't. It's on camera. Never has to be a lie. Yeah, never is a lie. When you're a kid, everyone has tried a booger. Yeah, hand up. I ate a booger when I was like five. Yeah, for sure. I've eaten. But whatever. The worst thing I'm dealing with now is my son picks his nose and then he just turns to me and says, where should I put this? And I'm like, what do you mean? It's your booger, dude. You fucking figure it out. I'm not taking it.

He'll just try to hand me his booger. That is a valid question because you never really know where to put it. I just flick it. You flick it and then it becomes someone else's problem. It is what it is. I get yelled at for that a lot in my household. Oh, no. I flick a lot of boogers.

It just ends up on the carpet. Your girlfriend's getting her feet stuck in the meat. Get a napkin. You need Aaron Rodgers to come clean it up with his mouth. Lord Taylor used to eat boogers on the sub, but for him it was like taking an Adderall. He would get amped up when Aaron Rodgers eats a booger. There's nothing there. If anything, he's got hallucinogens in there. Yeah, Lord Taylor just didn't want to waste any. So you fired Robert Salah. You added Devontae Adams.

Yeah, it's on Redick. So this is every week we got to do something for the Jets to be like, hey, it's not the problem. I have a new thing, too. Aaron Rodgers said after the loss to the Steelers that there was a major moment in the team culture finally evolving because Devontae Adams gave a speech that he said was the realist speech he'd heard in a locker room in 20 years.

Yeah, Devontae Adams is now also the coach. Okay. Co-coaches. Okay. Player, owner, coach, Devontae Adams. You have to win this game, memes. I'm with you. If we win, I'm thinking soupy. I love that. What does the new guy, though? What does Devontae Adams say that makes it the realest speech ever that Aaron Rodgers has ever heard in his first week with the team? He probably was like, I heard a lot about how this Jets organization sucked, but now that I'm here, oh, my God. Yeah.

you guys weren't lying. Yeah, like the realist speech. We got no help here. We have to do it. Just players. Yeah. The organization is going to do shit. Yeah. They've raised ticket prices, season ticket prices. Woody Johnson this past week. Perfect timing.

Yeah, I think it was 23% last year and now 25% next year. Yeah, they're in high demand. People just keep going. Devontae Adams is like, I want to see more Fireman Ed on the Jumbotron. What the fuck is going on with Fireman Ed? Rodgers did back Fireman Ed, which I respect because I do think the ecosystem needs the superfan. The ecosystem needs a superfan, Max. Fireman Ed's kind of a fraud. He walked away. Yeah, no, I know he did. I think he was fighting people because they'd be like, the Jets suck, and then he was just

He was just fighting everyone. And then he was like, I just need to step away from this. No, he stepped away after the butt fumble. He gave up on the franchise. I heard a story that it was fist fight. People were like, the Jets suck. He's like, nuh-uh. Yeah, pretty much.

I think he gave a statement after the butt fumble. He's like, I'm not coming back. This team is a disgrace. I agree, though. Like the NFL ecosystem. I do love the super fan. The super fan is important, especially the ones that think they're a part of the team. Yeah. I love that about the NFL. I just think that in this case, Fireman Ed kind of a fraud. You can't just quit and then come back. Memes. I have something positive. Memes is right. Memes is right. Oh, he got in a fight.

According to Wikipedia, which is fact, he retired as a self-proclaimed mascot of the New York Jets, stating he would attend games but not in character. He later explained that confrontations with a small number of Jets fans had ruined the experience for him. Actually, that doesn't necessarily mean fight. But he also chose the game after the butt fumble to do it. The question is, did he still go to the games? If he just didn't go in character, I think he's okay. Okay.

But you could just, he could just say that. Yeah. He could just say that I was going to the games when he wasn't. True. We're going to see if we can find him at the games. Um,

Quits is just unofficial. I love that he quit, too, just because, again, he's unofficial. So he didn't have to quit to anyone. Yeah, he gave up his salary of $0. Yeah. Memes, I have some positive things for you. You ready for it? Ready. The Jets' last four games, they have played the second. It is all EPA per play.

Second best defense, the first best defense, the 11th best defense, the sixth best defense. So they have had a mini gauntlet here in terms of playing against really tough defenses. The Patriots defense is quote unquote soft. They don't have soft players. Do you think that there will be a bounce off of soft games?

It's either it's going to be a bounce. I just don't know which way it's going to go. It's either going to be, you know, a locker room comes together or the dissension is everywhere and team gives up and they get blown out. There was a rumor going around. So it's either going to be a win or a loss. No, but like what's your prediction? A winner or loss?

I lean towards 20-point loss. Okay. There was a rumor this week that Jared Mayo was going to be one and done. Yeah, I've heard that. That's picking up steam. Incredible sources. Picking up a lot of steam, yeah. Yes. Yeah, so there was a rumor he was going to get fired this week. Yeah, this week. I'm hearing Vrabes. Hot seat. Yeah. Hot seat, Jared Mayo. Would you like to see that?

Not this week. I think you got to give him the season, but I think reading the comments, by the way, under like anyone who reports what Kirk says is so funny. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. Kirk Manahan reported that they were getting rid of him. I believe the report. I believe the report. No, he said 48 hours, I believe. Right. It's imminent. I believe they're going to fire him right before the game. Yeah.

It could happen at any moment within these 48 hours. I think that's unfair to Coach Mayo to do this year, but I think it's probably smart to move on after the season. Someone else had a clip. I saw maybe it was Simmons posted a clip that was like it was a clip from five years ago that was Kraft being like, yeah, Gerard Mayo is our coach in waiting. That feels like it explains a lot from the last five years. Yeah.

You had a guy who was in the building on Belichick's staff who was like, oh, yeah, he's anointed. I mean, the wheels have fallen off. Kraft did the interview with the Breakfast Club. I don't know if we talked about this on Wednesday, but Kraft did the interview with the Breakfast Club. He said that he was the one that fired Belichick. Before that, it had been basically, you know,

said to the public that it was a mutual parting of ways. It never is. And that's what opened the floodgates for Belichick to go in on Kraft. And, you know, the first four weeks he didn't say much about the Patriots or negative. And then after Kraft said that is when Belichick said it on McAfee show. He went on Brady's podcast to show that it's not a him and Brady thing. So I think the wheels have completely fallen off. I think Belichick is going to keep, you know, keep leaning on giving his honest opinion on the Patriots and

It's probably going to get bad before it's going to get worse before it gets better. So I lean towards 20 point blow up. What did the Breakfast Club ask him about getting jerked off? I don't know. I didn't watch the full interview. I want to know that answer. I'm sure they do. They had to. I doubt it. Based off the fact that.

They were saying everything on the roast of Brady, and once they mentioned that once, that was the only time someone got shut down. Yeah, but you can't tell Charlemagne not to ask about the Jackoff thing. No. I bet you they did. He would say no deal on the interview. They definitely talked about it off air. Yeah, probably. They probably, yeah. We're like, what's your favorite spots? This is the first time since 2001-02 season that the Jets have been favored against the Patriots in consecutive games.

That's pretty crazy. Yeah. That's how long it's been. It means you have to win this game. It might be the most must-win game of your life. It is the most must-win, and for a regular team, we would easily win this because the past two games we've played the Patriots, we've had, I think, seven-plus sacks each time, and now there's no David Andrews. But it's the Jets, so I have no idea. Realistically, all this hype going into it, as the Jets, we lose this game by, like,

Greg's airline, Greg's airline, miss field goal. And then that's it. All this hype going into it. Yeah. There's so much hype into this matchup. Now I do have a stat. This is the, this is the game of the week. I do have a stat in terms of the, the over under the under is 11 and two out of the last 13 times that the jets have played against AFC East opponents. And the under is five and Oh, the last five times that the jets and Patriots have played. I love the over. Okay.

I just think the Patriots are an over team now because of Drake may and their defense is terrible. Yeah, like they flip to an over team and it's it's slowly catching up, but it hasn't all the way caught up. We're going to find out if calling your team soft works though. True. That might be a variable in this. It's like they they just called the s-word. Yeah, so they might go out there and be like fuck that we're hard. Drake may is going to give him a shot Hank. You could win this game or lose.

You sure? Yeah, I think so. We could tie. No, you're not going to. This is not a tie yet. Not a tie yet. No. We already have one tie this weekend. All right. Next game, Falcons and Bucs. The Bucs are in their Creamskull jerseys. The Bucs have lost everyone. So they have no Godwin, no Mike Evans. That's not everyone, but it feels like everyone because those guys basically amount.

For all their catches. Bucky time. They're going to go full-time Bucky. Sterling Shepard time? I don't know. I don't know who they're going to pass to. I feel like Baker has played on teams that have been utterly deserted of wide receivers in the past. So I feel like he will – it's not going to be super ugly for the Bucks, but they've been a pretty good offense with their wide receivers playing. They're going to fall back to middle of the road. Yeah. I –

I mean, this is a huge game. This is a huge game for the division. This is a huge game. These two teams, it does feel like our game, PFT, and this game, that's... You guys could obviously still win your division, but that's going to be kind of the mix-up race for a wildcard spot. Yeah. They're important, impactful games. Yeah, so I...

I would say that there are going to be three teams from the NFC North that get into the playoffs. Correct. And there could even – there could be four. Yes, basically if the Bucs – Because the West sucks. If someone runs away from the NFC East, if the Eagles or Commanders just like rip off a bunch of wins and the other team dies –

and then the Bucs die, then it could feasibly be all four teams. Yeah, which would be wild. So Tampa, they are one and four in the creamsicles when they wear those. It still looks cool. It does look cool, but it also, that's not great. That's not great. And not having Mike Evans for the creamsicles feels... Yeah, when you do a throwback...

I mean, the jersey itself is going to be cool to look at. I like it when the Bucs wear the creamsicles. But they're throwing back to, like, the worst era of football ever. Yeah. When the Bucs actually wore those week in, week out, they were a very, very bad football team with the exception of 1979. Yeah. But besides that, it's like we're doing a throwback to celebrate our worst years as a franchise. Yeah. I think I lean the Falcons in this game, but I also... I don't know. This...

I can't decide if this is one of those games where it's going to be so easy because it's like, hey, the Bucs have no offense or everyone thinks that and the Bucs are like, how'd they do that? Oh, they threw, you know,

15 screen passes to Bucky Irving. Yeah. Bucky's going to eat and they're going to fire that fucking cannon a few times, which is so funny that the NFL is cracking down on the gun celebrations. Yeah. Like you can't pull out a fake shotgun and blast a guy in the face five times after sacking him. But then every time you score a touchdown, Raymond James Stadium just lights up like an armory. Yeah. You can't even flash your gun. Patriots too. Yeah. Patriots. That's right. They actually have guns. Yeah. Guns in the end zone.

But if Drake May pulls out, if he just shows a simulated gun in his waistband, Roger Goodell is going to come at that ass. What about the Shooter McGat? Probably can't do that. I don't think so. You can't even do a bow and arrow celebration. No guns. Can't do it. What if you say it was a squirt gun? What if you pump it and you demonstrate it's a super soaker? That could be a shotgun.

What if you, like Joe Horn, when he pulled the cell phone out of the goalpost, what if underneath the goalpost you keep a little orange cap and you put it on the top of your finger so it's clear that it's like a cap gun and it's not real? I think that could work, too. I think that works. That's what they got to do. Yeah.

Just save a little orange cap and just put it on right after you score. Yeah, I like that idea a lot. What if you line up your offensive linemen? I feel like they've probably done this before, but you throw a grenade, fake throw it, and then they all fall. Grenades are fine. Grenades are totally fine. Yeah, grenades are good. Drones are fine, too. You can't do a gun. Yeah, what if you do a drone? Yeah, what if Joe Horn pulled out that cell phone and he dialed the number and he was simulating that there were pagers on all the opponent's belts that blew up?

Or he pulls out the cell phone. He just shows the camera a video of like a Russian soldier getting drone killed as he gives up, which I somehow see five times a day. Yeah, it's insane, isn't it? That's like the scariest thing ever. A dude just like standing in the middle of the field. And just be like, please don't kill me. And then the drone just kills him. The drone's like, sorry, you're dead. Yeah, you're dead, buddy. Okay. Packers at Jaguars. Robert Salah has found a temporary home. He is...

the offense from a defensive perspective. I love that. And so he's on the sidelines there, which is like taking a picture of your ex's ex on

on Instagram and posting it just to get, I feel like that was directed at Aaron Rogers. Yes. I, I, that's why Robert Salah is in green Bay. Yes. That, that's why probably Matt LaFleur was like, Hey, come here. I, I know exactly what you went through. Yeah. We can just talk about it. Yeah. We can just, yeah, we can just talk shit together. So it's also a Doug Peterson kind of revenge game because he was a backup quarterback. Yeah. Green Bay Packers for sure. The Jaguars, I think you're going to get lit up by Jordan love.

You think so? Yeah. I kind of like the Jags this weekend. Yeah, this is... Not to win. I'm just not going to overthink it. Yeah, I'm not going to overthink it. I'm not going to overthink it. I think the Packers, their offenses looked good. They're a much better team. It's in Jacksonville. They're on a kind of winning streak. The Jaguars? Yeah. Yeah, they've won one game. One game. Yeah. They could make it a winning streak. Yeah, they could make it a big winning streak. Okay, Colts at Texans.

I don't want to pick on Anthony Richardson, but I have to just share a stat. Anthony Richardson completion percentage this year is 48.5%. What do you think the second worst quarterback? So that's last in the NFL. 48.5% of his passes are being completed. Who's the second worst quarterback and what's their completion percentage? Deshaun? Nope. Gardner? Nope. It's Jacoby Brissett. Oof.

And his completion percentage was 58.5%. So the second worst is 10% better than the worst in Anthony Richardson. And among players with 150 plus attempts in their first two seasons in the NFL, these are the lowest completion percentages over the last decade. Bryce Petty, 53.1%. Deshaun Kaiser, 53.1%. Anthony Richardson, 53.5%. It's not good company to be in. No. Deshaun Kaiser and Bryce Petty.

I feel like they're going to just, they're going to run him until he gets hurt. I think that's the plan for the Colts. It's like, we're not going to tell him to slide. We're not going to call plays to protect him. We're going to let him do what he does the best, which is throw it deep and then sometimes run into people. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Jonathan Taylor will be back too. That will help. That's a big one. Yeah. I, the Texans are weird. The Texans are good, but their offense is not good. They're not, they don't feel like they're as dominant as they were in stretches last year. Right? Yeah. No, their offense is like hard to watch.

Especially without Nico Collins. And then some of the weird stuff with time management at the end of games. I know that everyone picked the Texans to go far in the postseason this year, but I haven't seen them stand out. I mean, their record is very good, but I haven't seen them stand out as being like, this is an incredible team that's all put together. Agreed. Agreed. Okay, next game. I'm going to probably end up. Oh, they got Devin White, though.

They got Devin White. Devin White, Eagles legend. The Colts also got DeForest Buckner back, which should... That's big. His practice window opened. I don't know if he's going to play, but that should be huge for the Colts. Saints at Chargers. Alvin Kamara is playing with a broken hand.

And also he got a new contract, which is perfectly Saints. That's really good. So, I mean, the Saints are your choices right now. If you're in the Saints front office, it's like keep restructuring the guys that you have and giving them like longer terms on their contract and keep kicking the can down the road, which has worked for them in the past. But the difference is right now, those guys are,

already old. Yeah. And so now you're just extending them and making your team older in like two years. Yeah. I think the move they made with Camara is it saved them $18 million, which I don't really understand how that works. They signed him to do a new contract, but they saved money doing it. But yeah, I think that's their only solution now is to just keep doing new contracts to save money and push it down. On your current players. Yeah. So what the Saints might end up doing is just in the next like 10 years,

have the exact same roster, and they're a team of 45-year-old guys. Yeah. And they lose every game, but you're not in cap hell. Right. That's how they slowly climb out of cap hell. Which is very relatable. Yeah. Which is like, I'll just deal with this problem in two years. Yeah. Two years might not even happen. The Chargers have to win this game. They have to win this game.

Yeah, they have to win this game. I do think they will win this game. I think they can run the ball. Saints defense is very, very bad. They're worst in the league in terms of yards per carry against 5.4 yards per carry. So I feel like the Chargers are going to be just be like, we're going to smash this down your throat. But at least the Saints, it does feel like the Saints will be a little bit. They'll look better than they did last Thursday because they're going to get a lot of a back. They got some offensive linemen back.

I just want it to be better. The Saints are such a bummer to watch. Be a little competitive. Yeah. Spencer Rattler had some of the most hilarious turnover plays last week. Yeah. I hope we get more of those. The Chargers, they have not scored an offensive touchdown in the second half since week one. Week one was the only time they did that. They need a wide receiver. They need somebody that can catch the ball. They need ball catchers. Yeah. Bad. Bad.

Bills at Seahawks. DK Metcalf. If he doesn't play, I like the Bills. I would guess that he's not going to play. I think he's out. He is officially out. It's a grade one MCL. That sounds bad. That does sound bad. I'm going to guess that he's not playing. I know it's questionable. We got to have DK back on sometime. I'll say it. And we could even tweet this at him. I think DK uses the cart too much.

Well, it's because he did it that one time when he had to shit. Yeah. Every time he goes on the cart is like season-ending injury. Yeah. That's what it feels like. So when you see someone, it's... I understand, DK, you don't want to walk and you want to get a ride, but you make everyone who's a Seahawks fan, who's a fan of you, which we include everyone in this room, very nervous whenever you get in the cart. Yeah, I...

I think that it really does go back to the time where he used it when he didn't need to use it. Yeah. Unless he had already shit his pants. Right. If there was like a brown stain, then I understand that. Or you could just wrap a towel around your waist and duck waddle to the bathroom. That would have been fine too. But since then, it's the boy who cried wolf with the cart. I think in this case, he's probably out. He's week to week, grade one MCL sprain. I'm going to guess that he's not playing. He's missing the next two practices. Then we'll have his sprain MCL evaluated on Friday.

He also could be a guy who just regenerates. He's in that good of shape if you look at DK Metcalf where it's like he can just sit and focus really hard on his knee on Friday afternoon and be like, okay, I'm better now. Bobo time. Bobo. Bobo. Bobo. JSN. Bobo. Yeah, this is going to be a fun game. This is a very fun game in the afternoon. Yeah. I'm excited for it. Panthers and Broncos. Bryce Young.

He's back, baby. Back. Andy Dalton got into a car accident, hurt his thumb. Yeah. Kind of a weird injury to have in a car accident, but I'm glad that that's all that it was. But this is bad. This is bad for the Panthers for two reasons. One...

Bryce Young's going to play quarterback for you. And two, whatever trade value you think you have for Bryce Young is now up in the air because he could get injured or it's just going to remind everybody how bad Bryce Young is. So the longer you go without having to watch Bryce Young, like NFL GMs, they're just like us. If you spend two months and you haven't seen Bryce Young play football, you're like, maybe that guy's not that bad. But now you're going to be reminded about how bad he is. Yeah, and it's going to be bad because...

According to Sports Info Solutions, Panthers are the worst team versus the Blitz, and the Broncos blitz the second most in the NFL. And also the Panthers have the 31st ranked rushing defense in terms of DVOA. So it's going to be the Broncos running the ball down their throat and then blitzing the fuck out of them. I know this is a big line. I don't know how you could possibly take the Panthers.

They're irredeemable. I don't know either. They're an irredeemable thing. I think it went nine and a half points. Yeah, irredeemable. Yeah, I still like the Broncos. Yeah. I think you could probably make it 13 and a half. The defense last week was just so, so bad. So bad. And their offense, which had been at times not as bad as their defense, was as bad, if not worse, than their defense was. Yes, yes. But what I respect about them...

in the game against the commanders, you're getting the shit kicked out of you by Marcus Mariota and starting in like the second quarter, you just start running the football. Yeah. And you're like, we're just going to, we're going to make this game end as fast as we can. Running clock. Yeah. Uh, okay. Chiefs wrapping up. We got a couple more chiefs at Raiders. I wanted to take the Raiders, but then I remembered, uh,

Do you guys remember over the summer training camp when the Raiders had that video of Kermit the Frog dresses Patrick Mahomes? And Patrick Mahomes' quote after that was, stuff like that happens. It will get handled when it gets handled. That feels like it's going to get handled this week. But the Raiders are also a team that will not let Patrick Mahomes tiptoe along the sidelines and let up on them. True. They're going to finish those plays. I do agree, though. That was...

That was a crazy move for the Raiders to play. Crazy. Crazy with like a new coaching staff coming in, your quarterbacks or Gardner Minshew and AOC. Why are you doing that? I guess the one thing you can say about the Raiders is they can lean into their team identity being we're the one team that will beat the fuck out of Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. That's really all they have going for them because, I mean, they are a weird team. They beat the Ravens.

they lost to the Panthers. Oh, I have it for you. That's how strange the Raiders are. You ready for this? So this is from Josh Dubow AP. The Raiders are the last team to beat the Chiefs. Yeah. Christmas 2023. The last team to beat the Ravens week two. The

The only team to lose to the 2024 Panthers week three and the only team to lose a team to a team coached by Jeff Saturday week 10, 2022. Yeah. There's such a weird. They're the weirdest team. They're so weird. I mean, looking back at that Ravens win, it's like, what the fuck happened in that fourth quarter? Yeah, it was crazy. But I think that was actually good for the Ravens. Yeah. See that happen to them. Yeah. DeAndre Hopkins is going to be good for the Chiefs. I know that he has not been great this year. Yeah.

But it doesn't matter. He's still got the hands. He's still got the hands and it doesn't really matter. It's just like...

This is where the Chiefs are at. They're going to add him. He's going to be great. He doesn't have the explosion that he used to have, beating people deep. But it doesn't matter. You have Xavier Worthy on the outside. DeAndre Hopkins can just catch everything. He will catch everything. He's still very good. I think we predicted that DeAndre Hopkins would be on the Chiefs in week two. And it's going to work. It's his destiny to stay in shape.

By playing on the Titans. Yeah. You're still practicing football and catching balls. You're not really competing that much, but you are going to be a chief and you're going to win the Super Bowl with the Chiefs. Yes. By the way, Patrick Mahomes has the most interceptions of any QB in the NFL since the start of last season. That's pretty crazy. That is wild. 22. Sam Howell, 21. Jordan Love, 19. Jalen Hurts, 19. Do you know what's going on with Max Crosby?

Yeah, well, he's like maybe getting traded. He said, yeah, he might get traded. And then he said, I'm a Raider. Let me make this pretty fucking clear. I am a Raider. I want to be a Raider. And his name keeps getting brought up. And they were doing an interview with him the other day. And they said, like, what if Antonio Pierce called you guys soft?

and he's kind of like mumbled through it. And then he was like, wait, did he call us soft? And the interviewer was like, yeah, he called you guys soft. And then his reaction, his quote was, I would have a major issue if I was a player, especially another man calling you soft. I mean, those are fighting words.

Maybe it worked by Antonio Pierce. Yeah. Like if your reaction is that's fighting words, maybe that's the right word to say to you to make you want to fight. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, Max Crosby, if he gets traded, that would be someone would get really, really good. Meme just saying that he backtracked that. Oh, he backtracked. Yeah. It was on Jim Gray's podcast. Okay. Afterwards. Jim Gray. Again, we've said this before. How the fuck does that guy just have all these shows? How does he have a show with Tom Brady?

He's just a secret commissioner. They're just boys. But Jim Gray hasn't done anything in like 20 years. He still gets like the biggest. Didn't he do the decision? Yeah. I feel like it's crazy. And they're talking about it on the podcast. He was the one that interviewed Tyson. Like the back is broken. Yeah. Jim Gray might be secretly super, super wealthy.

Did you guys know... This is unrelated. Did you know that Joe Buck has been calling NFL games since 1994? No. No.

Isn't that crazy? One of the first Fox guys. So I saw a clip. It was the 30th anniversary of the longest punt return in NFL history, 103 yards, because the rule used to not be if it goes in the end zone, it's not immediately dead. So it was a Saints Oilers game, I want to say, and the ball hit the

back basically the back part of the end zone and then bounced forward and the Oilers guy just picked it up and ran it so he picked it up in the end zone and ran it and I was listening I was like is this Joe Buck and it was Joe Buck from 1994 and that's a play that will never be that record won't be broken because of the way that the correct was written right now yes could you can you play it I know we can't well no you could play it the audio of it

Say this again. I was looking at Jim Gray, everything Jim Gray's done. He's done insane things. It's nuts. And he's got like, I don't know what his personality is. He's just Jim Gray. It was the longest punt return in NFL history. 1994 Saints Oilers. I was shocked. I mean, I felt a little bad that I didn't know that fact. But when I heard it, I was like, is this Jack Buck? How could this be Jack Buck? No, it's Joe Buck. Let's see. Is this it? Yeah. Tommy Barnhart.

That...

That is one of the most unbelievable plays I've ever seen. They never downed the ball. It was sitting in the end zone, and the Rams picked it up and scored.

Buck kind of got owned on that play call, didn't he? Yeah. Like, the analyst just took over for him. Yeah, he took over. Joe was just probably confused. Probably pissing. Yeah. Pissing in the beer bottle. It's crazy, though. 25 years old, calling NFL games. Very cool. Nuts. Also, shout out Jake, who's going to be doing some college basketball stuff, right? Yes. Very cool, Jake. Feast week. CBS, feast week. Yes. I love feast week so much. I love feast week so much. Bears and Commanders.

The game. Is he going to play? I reported on Monday that he was going to play. So he's guaranteed play. So what can people do if he doesn't play to you? I stand by my reporting. So if he doesn't play, what can people do to you? There could be a material change, but I stand by my reporting. He has to play. He has to play, right? You can find me. You can find me. I don't think he's playing. Yeah. Why? I don't think he's playing either. Why not? I just think it's just our luck. But he knows how much this game means to us.

I don't know if he does. He does. Because he would have already been practicing. He's doing a little rope-a-dope. The ribs are fine. Look, your ribs are a long way from your heart. That's actually not that true. No, they're very close. They're very close to each other. They actually protect your heart. But he's going to play. Yes, Max. I have a question. Yeah. Max.

Did you say anything at the out of order live show last night? I forgot that Max was there. Did you say anything at the out of order live show last night? I did not. Sounds like he did. What did he say, Max? It was a comedy show. I'm confused. Was he talking shit? It was a comedy show. Is he afraid to repeat it on the podcast? Is Big Cat a studio gangster? This is maybe why I texted you guys and asked if you were coming to the show. And then I forgot Max was there. Remember, I texted you guys.

I went up... Nick, our good friend Nick... I knew he was going to do this to me. I thought of it... As I was walking out, I was like, fuck, Max was there. As I was walking... Or sorry, Nick...

Was saying some unkind things to Caleb Williams. I was emceeing, so fights went first. Introduced fights. Introduced Nick. Nick said some unkind things to Caleb Williams. I went up and I was like, hey guys, Caleb Williams is so fucking good. He's going to change all of our lives. And then I might have said, because PFT's not here, I think Caleb Williams is way better than Jaden Daniels.

Daniels but that was off that was I'm just there I'm just curious off air yeah delete this part yeah so I'm declaring this is off air too how many uh how many rookie of the weeks has killed I don't listen I didn't I I just said how many I said can we look that up yeah rookie of the week is an award I do not care about I'm just curious uh off air I just I I had to say what I thought

Well, we'll find out, won't we? Yeah, I don't care about Rookie of the Weeks. How many touchdown throws does Jaden Daniels have? No, I'm saying we'll find out. How many overall touchdowns does Caleb have? I think more than Jaden Daniels. Well, he played against the Jaguars. Oh, he played against the Panthers.

Oh, he got hurt because he can't stay in the game. No, he didn't get any touchdowns in that game. Yeah, because he got hurt. So actually, Caleb's played more games than Jaden. Five? The best ability is availability. Well, he's also... How many is more? Wait, we're counting. One, two, three...

He only has three? I thought he had more than that. Oh. How has he played? Does he have five Rookie of the Weeks? I have a question. How has... That's pretty good. How has Caleb Williams played more games than Jayden Daniels when the Commanders haven't had a bye? Oh, we did last week against the... So they played the exact same amount of games. Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. But Jayden's different.

That's fine. I love my guy. Jaden's different. Monday night. I also knew Max was in the crowd and I knew he was going to bring this up. But it's good for the show. What's his record in primetime? 0-1, I don't care. I don't give a fuck about Rookie of the Week. I don't give a fuck about record in primetime. I give a fuck about how I feel.

I think Caleb Williams is really good. Record in primetime is pretty important. One game? You're going to make it to the playoffs. That's a one-game sample size? We actually don't have a lot of primetime games. Who did you bet on to be MVP this year?

I didn't actually make the bet because remember he went from 22 to one to 10 to one to then 18 to one and they lost. And I was like, well, I missed that. All right. So it was Joe Burrow. I was, I was saying at the time that if you want, if you thought the Bengals could beat the Ravens, you should bet on Joe Burrow to be MVP. They didn't beat the Ravens.

But you've been saying he's been playing at an MVP level. He was, yeah. So when Jaden, when he beat him in his own house... Does Jaden Daniels play against Joe Burrow? He did.

Joe Burrow was playing cornerback against Jaden Daniels. He outscored Joe Burrow. The 24th defense in the league. Well, we didn't really have a defense out there, and the Bengals didn't really have a defense out there, but Jaden had more points than Joe Burrow. Right, but Joe Burrow was playing defense against Jaden Daniels. Basically, yeah. If Joe Burrow had scored more points than Jaden, that would be kind of playing defense against him. I hope Jaden Daniels plays. I hope he's not a pussy about it. I hope he plays, too.

He better. You said he was going to play. I reported. I didn't say. I reported that Jaden Daniels, which is more than saying it. I want him to play. So it's a tattoo bet. Yeah. If Jaden plays. No, I think no matter what.

So when we talked about like what the most hilarious outcome in terms of last year was the worst game ever in terms of ratings for the podcast, which is why we want if you lose a Marcus Mariota, you need to get like a lay. That's what I'm saying. If you should get no, you should get the Polynesian like shoulder tattoo. No, I choose. If I lose, I'm going to choose my own tattoo, but I'll honor it.

With or without Jaden Daniels, if you want it. It's your... Because you're the one who got the tattoo last year because the Bears beat the Commanders, so I... Beat the fuck out of him, yeah. I will... Whatever the... If you want to call it off for Marcus Mariota, I'm happy to do that. No. I don't care. I'm not going to call it off. Okay. Because I believe in my guys.

Okay. I believe in my guys. Now, you don't. Dick Buck has passed away like right before the game last year. Mike Dick is pretty old. That felt. Oh, my God. I didn't even think about Mike Dick. I did. Okay. The bets off. No. That's my one stipulation. If he passes away within one hour of kickoff. All right. One hour.

Like Sunday morning, whatever. It's between 10 and 12. No, no, no. His kickoff is 325 Central Time. If he passes away during the early slate of games. Second half. That's like an hour and a half, two hour window. Second quarter counts. No. Under the two minute warning. There has to be at least one game over the two minute warning. Okay, deal. Deal. Then the bet's off. Every game, it starts when every game is...

Under the two-minute warning. Yeah. Listen, last year I bet on Sam Howell. Yeah, if there's one. I will honor the bet. On Justin Fields. I will honor the bet with Marcus Mariota. The Bears were 1-0-4, I believe, at the time. 1-3? Yeah.

bad it was a bad game you guys played really well um but yeah me and big cat will have we'll have marks it's like i'll have a tapestry that's what they used to do back in medieval times to like uh commemorate everything that happened in their history it's like oh here's a here's a painting of uh us losing this one battle yeah that's what our tell the story that's what our bodies the story of this rivalry that everyone talks about

This famous Bears-Commanders rivalry. Yeah. Are you feeling good? I think it's hard to judge this game because we just don't know if he's playing. I want you to be happy, Big Cat. I want Caleb Williams to be a good quarterback. But to say that he's had a better year than James Daniels. That's not what I said. That's not what I said. He was just a little boy. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. That is not.

It's not what I said. It's not what I said. It's not what I said. Well, bro, you're going to be good. That's not what I said. You're changing. And that makes me think that you're scared that you're saying you're changing the words to this year. That's not what I said. I did not say Caleb Williams played better than Jaden Daniels this year. That is unequivocally not what I said. What did you say? I said, I think Caleb Williams is better than Jaden Daniels going forward. But how can you say that when Jaden is clearly a better player? Because that's just what I think going forward.

forward. I think if you're what that's not that's not a crazy thing to say you're saying I hope that one day Kayla will be better. I think that Kayla Williams going forward is going to be the better quarterback. I did not say anything about this year. So you could do the rookie of the weeks, but that is irrelevant to me because I'm talking about the future. You're talking about what hasn't happened yet. I'm talking about the future. You're talking about what you what you hope is going to happen. What do we do on this show? Talk about what hasn't happened. I like the whole preview. There's one thing about me. I like to live in reality. I

Yeah. Jaden Daniels. Max is trying to change what I said. I never said that. Actually, PFT is. He's the one who changed it. Because you want to go with the Rookie of the Week. I wasn't there. I don't know what you said. No, I never said that. I never said he's better than him this year.

No, he just said that I think he's a better quarterback. He's going to be a better quarterback. Yeah. I think he's going to be a better quarterback. Did he say going to be? I think I said going to be. Or did he say is better? Because I said he's going to be awesome. He's going to be. He's going to change our lives. He's going to be a better quarterback. There's tapes. We could check the tapes. Yeah, we could check the tapes. We could check the tapes. Going to be is different than is better. I did not say. I did not talk about this year. I said I was talking future. I was saying this is going to change our lives. Put a poll out. I could actually put it. I could text.

and try and get the actual clip. All right, so if I said, I don't think I said this year, but my whole point was that he's going to be better because that's what I've been saying the whole time is that I'm very confident in Cale Williams. I think he's going to be a very good quarterback. I think that Jaden Daniels is different.

He is awesome. I love him. So you think Jayden Daniels is that much better than Caleb Williams in everything? Because I also... I don't think Jayden Daniels is very, very good. I just think I like Caleb Williams more going forward. But you think Jayden Daniels is going to be the best quarterback ever? I think he's going to be... If he stays healthy...

I think Jane Daniels is going to be the best quarterback in the history of the Redskins or Commanders. I think he's going to be the best quarterback in the NFC. He might already be the best quarterback in the NFC. What about all-time? Probably top two. All-time? No. That's too far for me to project, but probably top five. Okay. Yeah, I think Caleb Williams is going to have a really strong career and win a Super Bowl. That's all I'll say. Just one? I wouldn't doubt that. I'm going to say one.

Yeah, I'm not going to say he's top 10, top 5. That was me and Hank. Yes, with the Bears. I'm not going to say he's top 10, top 5, any of this stuff because it's still too early, but I'm very confident in what I've seen and the progression that he's made. I think it'll be good for the league. Yeah, tattoo bats every year. It'll be good for the league to have this rivalry. Every year. All right, last game.

Cowboys at Niners. Let's get that footage. Yeah, that's fine. I want to see the footage. I knew Max was there. I knew he was going to bring this up. You think I'm an idiot? Max was... I saw him before the show. He came in and said hello to me. I don't think I said this year, but my... And if it's this year, no. Jayden Daniels played better than Caleb Williams so far. Caleb Williams, I think about his future higher. Hank, who do you think's better?

Jayden Daniels. He's played better this so far. I think Caleb Williams is better. Thank you, Max. I think that's fair to say. I think it's fair to say that so far Jayden Daniels has played better, but you think that your ceiling is higher. Yes, and I also think that Caleb Williams gets criticized for playing bad defenses, and Jayden Daniels has also played bad defenses. That's true. Yeah.

I just want both to play Sunday. Yeah, I do too. Then I can decide. Very badly. Very badly. Are you guys going to compliment my jersey? I did. That was the first thing I said to you. Oh, I'm sorry. It's a great jersey. Is it McCaffrey? It's a Luke McCaffrey salute to service Arctic camo jersey. Hell yes. Shipped directly from China. I love the fact that China is making our pro-American military jerseys. That is nice. Also, this is just a knockoff, and I feel like I'm the only person in the world that owns it, but fuck it. We ball. Nice. Where'd Max go?

Probably to retrieve the footage. Footage or bathroom. I did say, I do remember saying, oh, because we don't have any...

No one can take video of this. And then I looked at the camera. Yeah. I knew the camera was there. Also, the Rookie of the Week thing is hilarious because there are two weeks that you could definitely say Caleb deserved to win. Don't want it. Those two weeks. Don't want it. Want to stay hungry. Don't want it. Okay. Breaking Moose. Breaking Moose. Max has got the video from Laugh Factory. I'm very interested to see this. So according to Big Cat, he said that...

Caleb Williams is going to be better than Jaden Daniels. Or he might have said he's better, but I didn't say he's playing better right now or he's had better games this year. Have you seen this? I have not. I have not either. He lived it. I did live it, but I don't remember anything that happens ever because my brain's turning to mush and I don't sleep.

I've been trying to stay reserved with what I'm about to say because we're in a place where we can't have cameras and people aren't recording. I knew the cameras were recording me. I'm just saying to you guys, Cale Williams is so fun. He has been the team all of our lives. I honestly think that we're all going to become winners. And I'm going to say one other thing because I don't think PFT is here.

He's so much better than Jaden Daniels. He's so much better than Jaden Daniels. I have no problem with people. He's so much better than Jaden Daniels. I mean, why can't I say that? Wait, wait, wait. I want to hear the rest of it.

I won't say it to his face. I'm going to wait. I'm going to play some long games. I knew the cameras were everywhere. Yeah, I have no problem with what I said. I have one problem with what you said. What? That he's so much better than Jane Daniels. I vehemently disagree. I think anybody that's watched the games this season, and I'm a big Caleb Williams fan. I've been very polite myself. You don't have to fake it. I've been rooting for the guy. I want him to be a great quarterback. You don't have to fake it. I don't know.

I think you have to be insane to say that Caleb Williams has been a better quarterback. I didn't say he's been a better quarterback. I said he's so much better. I didn't say he's a better quarterback. He's been a better quarterback. I said he's so much better. I think we're splitting hairs right now. No, I didn't say Caleb Williams has played so much better. Big cat's backed into a corner. No, I'm not. You have talked reckless about Jaden Daniels. I have been very reserved.

Caleb Williams has played better every week, and people wanted this to happen for this week. They wanted us to finally take the gloves off. Max was just so happy. He's like, we needed this. We needed this. I've been reckless about Jayden Daniels because I'm looking at the hardware, and he's got five rookie of the week. For me to say that I think my quarterback is so much better, you have said some shit that is crazy. No, I said Super Bowl window. You did.

You just said he's going to be one of the top two quarterbacks of all time. I said top five. You started with top two. I think I said not saying top. Maybe I said top two. I feel like I've been very reserved, and I still think that Cale Williams got – there's going to be some bumps in the path this season for Cale Williams. He's going to have some bad games. He's got a tough schedule.

I'm just talking. I'm looking forward. I think what I've seen forward, he's going to be awesome. I think right now as it stands, we both have our lines. Yeah. I mean, this is what we always thought. So it's not like a secret. Yeah. I did have Jaden as number one on my big board before the draft. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted him. Listen. There is an update, by the way, about Jaden Daniels from Adam Schefter. Okay. So he tweeted out earlier today, Washington plans to attempt to...

To try to practice Jaden Daniels on Friday. Okay. So we plan to attempt. We plan to attempt. That doesn't sound great. Plan to attempt to try to practice Jaden on Friday. That doesn't sound great. I still think he's going to play. But plan to attempt to try to practice. We plan to attempt to try.

That's a great update from Schefter. Are you mad at me that I think my quarterback's better than yours? No, no. I just, I would have rather had this conversation on the podcast. Well, I knew. I mean, it's sad that we're having it. It's sad that it had to come. It's sad that it had to come after a video where you said, I'll say this because PFD is not here. Well, you don't think there was three cameras pointing at my face and Max was in the crowd. I saw Max before the show. Listen, we just might have. And I knew he was sitting right there. We might have just reached supreme debate. Yeah, that was supreme debate. I,

Listen, people have been waiting for me to say it because I've been taking a lot of shit. I get it. You know, the Bengals game, obviously, my mentions were just, holy shit, your guy stinks. Jaden Daniels is awesome. I think Jaden Daniels is awesome. I think Caleb Williams is super duper awesome. I think Jaden Daniels is like absolutely the best quarterback that I've ever watched in my entire life. He's the top two quarterback of all time. He might be. When it all is said and done.

We're both confident in our guys. Yeah, I just want Cale Williams to keep getting better.

And like I said, it's his rookie season. There's going to be some bumps in the road. I know that there's, I think we play the Vikings on Monday night football. I already have that circled as a game that everyone's going to shit on me. I have it just in my mind of like, that's going to suck for me, but I don't care. The nice thing is right now I don't have any more primetime games I have to worry about. Or I guess the Eagles. Yeah, there's the Eagles on Thursday night. That will be a big game. We're going to stream that game. Be a big game. You know what? The real perverts out there, you're, it's actually just memes.

It's actually just memes. No, Max loves this. Memes is being a big pervert right now. Max is so happy. This is good promo for the stream and for Monday's show. Yes, absolutely. People wanted this. They didn't want us to sit here and be like, oh, I hope we have a good game. I hope you have a good game. I hope we have a good game. Back and forth. No, I know. I know what this is. Memes said, ask him if it's a must-win or can't-lose. I think you care more about the quarterback play. No, no, no, no. The Bears, because of the Bears' schedule, I've already called it a must-win.

The bear, I, this stretch has been nothing but must wins. The Panthers game is a must win. The Jaguars games must win. This is a must win. They, I've said it a million times, but all bears fans listening right now know it starting in week 10, we have the most difficult schedule possible and it's going to be fucking torture and kill. Wasn't going to have games. He looks bad. We must win these games.

We must win them. We knew going into the season, when you looked at the schedule, it's like if we don't start the season 6-3 or 7-2, we have no chance at the playoffs. I think this is a must play for Jaden. Yeah, I want him to play. I'm not going to get into Max's little must win, can't lose, because at the end of the day, those don't mean anything. And I figured that out, Max, when you asked me that.

But I think Jaden must play this weekend. I'll also remember when he said that. I'll say this, PFT. I did. I went on one on Sylvie. You're not going to remember that at all. You're going to fall right back into that trap. I went on one on Sylvie. I do every Wednesday. Those are my guys. And they were kind of making fun of me because I said that I wanted Jaden Daniels to play. And they were like, what?

don't we want the path of least resistance? I was like, no, no, I want Jaden Daniels. I genuinely want Jaden Daniels to play.

I want to see this. So do I. It's the best for this show. Yep. It's 100% the best for this show, and I want to see it happen. So I'll be bummed out if it doesn't. Listen, am I overcompensating because of all my doubt via watching so much bad quarterback play my entire life as a Commanders Redskins football team fan? 100%, absolutely. But do I also think that Jaden is...

I'd say top two in the NFC right now. Yes, I do think he is. The only time I thought your recklessness was a little crazy was when you genuinely laughed at Max, and it was very similar to when Billy had two good weeks for the Jets, and he was like, you guys don't understand. And I was like, PFD, we're still far away from...

The finish line here. So the reason I laughed at Max was actually because Max had just gotten done saying the Eagles season is completely over. And then he said Eagles to win the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's why that was like the 10th team pick, though. Yeah. At that point, like you have. But it was a genuine laugh. Yeah. Yeah. And you were kind of looking at him like you sad sack of shit. You don't know what it's like.

And I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. No, no. I would never say that I feel bad for Max because the Eagles, I've said this, they have a top-to-bottom much better roster than the Commanders do. No, don't do this now. It's true. No, don't do this. You can't take back the laugh. Don't do this now. Okay. I think it's true, though. Would you agree? The laugh was the true reaction. I'm not going to answer that question. Hank? It's learning by me. Anything? Anything?

I need Jane Daniels to play. Okay. We all do. This podcast needs Jane Daniels to play. I'll be very bummed out if it happens on Sunday morning. He plans to attempt to try to practice to play. Wait, didn't you say you'd do something if he doesn't play?

I think there was discussion of me getting fined for the... Oh, yeah, we're going to fine you. Yes. No, we're fining you. Yeah, because I said... We are fining you. Sunday, I was like, he's playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're fining you. A hundred bucks a person. No. A hundred bucks next lottery ball winner gets it. Okay. Yeah. Put in free parking. Yeah, free parking in the lottery ball. That's good. We should just have... We should do fines for that. We should have a free parking. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We should. Yeah, yeah. We should have a jar for it. Memes will never get it.

I'll never get it. No, you're going to get it. Memes is never going to get it. All right. Well, that was the breaking news. Back to regular scheduled programming. All right. Last game, Cowboys at Niners. This is just the injury bowl. Jennings, Debo, Ayuk all out. Or Debo probably out. Kittle maybe out. McCaffrey, Hank? He's out. Okay. All right.

And yeah, I don't know. All I have for this is Jerry Jones is doing weird shit again. He said that Mike McCarthy's designing bad plays and bad concepts on offense. Saying that he's got bad plays is such a mean, funny thing to say. And then also said Derrick Henry wasn't a fit for their offense. And then I don't know if you guys saw the story on ESPN where it was basically a deep dive into the fact that the Cowboys facility...

uh does tours every single day that just basically has the players like zoo animals yeah yeah you get to walk through and just see the players at work and then the players are just like oh there's people behind glass like tapping on it and taking pictures they're tapping on the glass when you're like trying to get a workout yeah it's it's insane but that's jerry jones yeah jerry jones is like yeah go go go look at my boys out there that's that one that one boy he's got a big penis yeah try to see that yeah uh

There's a very funny tweet speaking of the 49ers. This is from Matt Ford. He pointed out after Debo Samuel had pneumonia and he was sent to the hospital, Matt Ford said, the 49ers' healthiest receiver right now was shot in the chest two months ago. Yeah. Which is true. That's true. And it's crazy. Ricky Pearsall. And so he played last weekend. And it's insane the bad injury luck that the 49ers have had this season. I...

I don't think that things are going to turn around for the Niners. No, I like the Cowboys in this game. I feel like, yeah, it could be a good week for the Cowboys. Although Brandon Aubrey missed practice because he's doing jury duty. Jury duty. Which is a very strange reason. Like back in the day...

if you were missing practice for court on the Cowboys, you were having a lot more fun. Yeah, yeah. That's very true. You weren't on that side of the box. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, I like the Cowboys. Mike McCarthy off the bye is pretty good too. Yeah, he is. As fat as he is. He is 12-5 all-time after bye, and he's 3-1 as the Cowboys coach.

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Touchdown parlay. We hit it. Who was in it? Saquon was mine. No, it was the three of us. Yeah. All right. So we need to do it again. We hit it again. I like Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon. I like that pick too. Good job. That's a good pick. Great pick. I will do J.K. Dobbins. Should I go running back or wide receiver? Do whatever you feel, buddy. Follow your heart. Devontae Adams.

Oh, against the Patriots. The best speech of all time. The realest speech of all time. Best speech of all time. Patriots D is not good. If there was going to be like a let's get on the right page. It would be this. Yeah. Memes, what do you think? I love it. Three touchdown game. Three for Devonta? Yeah. Three touchdown. Two plus TD is plus 650. All right. Three plus TD is 30 to one. What is...

What's the standings for our... So we'll have the DraftKings. In DraftKings Sportsbook, we'll have the TD Parlay. We're 1-0 in our last one. What are the standings for the season-long competition? I'm in last. Oh, no.

The season-long competition, Big Cat 8-6, myself 8-6, PFT and Hank 6-8, Max 4-9-1. Max PFT went 0-2 last week. The rest of us won 1. 4-9-1, Max. Yeah, no, I haven't got a total right once all year. I haven't got one total right. And you've been taking unders. I was doing mostly unders. Last week I did an over to try and combat all of my bad unders. I've been terrible.

In your own head. Yep, all over my own head. Okay, who's up first? Mr. Commenter. I will take the Denver Broncos minus 9.5 at home against the Carolina Panthers. Okay, I will take the Miami Dolphins minus 3.5 at home against the Arizona Cardinals. I will take the Kansas City Chiefs minus 9.5 against the Raiders.

I know the Chiefs don't have a great record. I might be making this up. Do they not have a good record when they have big spreads? Big spreads, but the business. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes taking care of business, coming with the Frog. Yeah, we're going to handle it when we handle it. I'm going to take the Bills minus three. I am going to take the Browns plus eight and a half. I like that. I like that pick a lot, Max. And Jets Patriots over 41. Ah, I wanted that one. Fuck. Sunday night football under 46 and a half.

Part of my take bowl, let's have some fun. Over 43 and a half in the Bears Commanders. I like that. Okay. I'll do over 40 and a half Saints Chargers. I'm going to go under 41 Jets Patriots. Three touchdowns for Devontae. No scores for the Patriots. Should we do three touchdowns in the TD program? That would be wild. That would be wild. Okay. Those were all of our picks.

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brawny james yeah you got your photo op you didn't even tap up brawny lebron on the way in yeah yeah left him hanging you got your picture you never playing again bud would have been great though if you had stepped in knocked down one three and the crowd goes nuts you check yourself out get ready to learn pine buddy i i saw a stat he had a better plus minus than his dad though oh shit

He almost had that. He had one offensive rebound, I think. Skip Bayless said Michael Jordan would out intangible Bronny in one-on-one. I tend to believe it.

My sleeper, Jake Bobo. Bobo. Bobo the clown. Bobo. You're Bobosexual. Bobo's gonna score. No DK. Bobo's gonna step in on the depth shot. I like it. Put him in your lineup. Put him to score. Bobo time. Bobo time. Bobo. Bobo. Bobo T. What's up, Dickheads? It's Gucci Danucci. What's up, Gucci? This week, I'm starting Eli Manning.

Eli Manning is starting for me. He's on the short list of 50 guys for the Hall of Fame. Eli's getting closer to the Hall of Fame. I just want to see the bust that they designed of Eli Manning. He's got to have the mouth open. He's got to have the hair all messed up. We need the Manning face. Fly catcher. I'm sitting Cardi B. I'm not talking about Tank Bigsby, Cartavious Bigsby. I'm talking about the singer Cardi B. She's being investigated by the SEC for crypto fraud. Oh, shit. Thoughts and prayers.

I thought that was going to be the one that made us rich. It probably was. It was Wapcoin. Yeah, Wapcoin. I liquidated all my Wapcoin at the wrong time. They tried to do a pump and dump, and I'm not talking about that chick that got boned by 20 guys. My sleeper this weekend is going to be Joe Mixon. I feel like Joe Mixon goes off and...

As inaccurately reported on part of my take on Monday, the individual at Lambeau Field was not kicked out. He was kicked out momentarily. They brought him back. They said, you didn't do anything wrong. You were protecting your house. You were standing your ground. You're welcome back in the front row. Congrats to that guy. All right. What's up, you fuckers? My name's Frankie Roast Beef. Hey, Frankie. My stardom is Bryce Maximus James.

Because guess what? He's going to be in the NBA at some point. I'm going to call my shot right now. Good for him. Feels like he's going to get drafted and get in the NBA. I don't know. I just got a feeling about this one. The kid's earned it. The kid's earned it. My sit-em is Zach Eadie. He fouled out in 15 minutes. That's tough. So everyone who watched Zach Eadie and the Big Ten said they fucking don't call fouls. He went one game in the NBA and he finally called a fucking foul. It's very interesting. Feels good. It's very interesting. Feels real fucking good.

My sleeper is J.K. Dobbins. He's going to score. The Chargers, all the Chargers offense is going to score, score, score, score, score, score, score. I love that. Charge up, J.K. Rowling. The Bronny stuff was ridiculous. So...

It was a cool moment for LeBron. Like, it was a good family moment. For LeBron. But then everyone else had to participate in LeBron James' awesome family moment. Which is fine. He's earned the right to basically tell the Lakers what to do. Yes. Because he's been arguably the best player of all time. And you've got to see Bronny grow up from the time that LeBron was starting in the league. So it's a cool story.

but to act like it's a great moment that Bronny made it to the NBA. And there is obviously also the health scare thing with Bronny last year where his heart stopped. And so it does add to it being a cool moment for LeBron. For LeBron. For LeBron. But we don't have to act like Bronny is an actual NBA player. That's the big part. It's all for LeBron. None of this was for Bronny. I feel bad for Bronny in a weird way because he knows it. But anyone who was saying this was the coolest thing they've ever seen. I thought...

So when he got drafted, I was like, oh, that's a cool moment. You know, that's, that's fun. And I was not, I wasn't totally against all of this. I thought that Bronny stupidly thought that Bronny would start the G league and would be in the G league for a while.

Where it flipped for me where I was like, this is fucking ridiculous. Everyone just stopped sucking LeBron's dick here and pretending like this is a monumental thing is that they put him in in the first game. That was like, come on. First fucking game. Do you think that the original plan was send him to the G League and then after he has one really good game, bring him up and act like he earned the right to be on the roster? If Bronny had gone to the G League and worked on his game and...

He's probably not talented enough to be in the NBA regardless, but say he works on his game for a year, two years. LeBron says, I'm going to retire LeBron's last game in the NBA. He's like, Hey, I would like my son to be on the court with me. That's an awesome moment. And that's a great moment. I actually think that even, even the biggest haters amongst us, right? If,

If Bronny had gotten into the game, gets one shot, and he hits it, that would have been awesome, right? That's an awesome moment. That would have been a very cool moment. It's like the student manager getting in in the last game of a high school game and just heating up from three for no reason. Yeah, but this was just so manufactured and not real that it just, I don't know. First game was just so weird to me. But it is a cool moment for LeBron. For LeBron. It's an insanely cool moment for that family.

I think it's better that he played in his first game. Well, I don't think he should have been on the roster in the first game. But you can just get it out of the way because if he was in the G League, then that would be the whole story for like a while, which would be like, when is Bronny going to get called up? When is he going to get that game with LeBron? Like, when are we going to have that moment? Now that it's out of the way, now he can like,

Yeah, maybe if you're a Bronny, like I know you can't do this, but I would have said, hey, dad, don't make me get drafted to your team. Let me go be in the G League on another team. I agree with Max, though. If you're going to do it better to get it out of the way. It just seems so weird. It already happened. Like the moment is already there. We would be talking all the time. Like when is it? Bronny has one good game and they're like, oh, they're going to bring him up now. It was very funny watching him check into the game to seeing that Bronny is like probably nine inches shorter. Yeah, it just seems so fake. That's all.

All right. I like JJ, though, pretending that he didn't know that Bronnie was going to check. Yeah. That was funny. Yeah. All right. Let's get to our great interview with John Gruden. Before we do that, you got a quick ad. Yeah. Before we get to John Gruden, he's brought to you by Chevy. Chevy trucks are the best. And there's a reason why we've never done a Mount Rushmore pickup trucks before.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is Super Bowl champion head coach, John Gruden. Coach Gruden, thank you for joining us. Let's start with this. Can I still call you coach? Is that still okay for us to call you coach during this interview?

That's perfectly fine. Yes, sir. Okay. All right. So you, we have a ton of questions. Very excited to have you on. Let's start with this. You're, you're, you're zooming in right now from the fired. What do we call it? The fired football coaches Institute. Yeah.

It's the association. It's the FFCA. Don't you know, man? Okay, so the FFCA. So for people who don't know, you have set up basically a facility that looks almost like a coach's facility at a team where there's offices and different rooms. So what exactly made you decide to start this, and what does a day-to-day look like in the FFCA?

Well, when I got fired by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I got into Monday night football. I needed a place to go and study and put all my game plans and my servers and memorabilia. So I bought a building and it's kind of taken off from there, but we bring in a lot of coaches, players, college players, pro players. We collaborate on football, study football, and

During the season, we have a routine during the off season. We have a routine and right now we're just grinding, getting ready for next week's games. So I love that. So, yeah. So you're basically not coaching, but you're going through the motions of what a coach would do every single week. I that's, that's perfect.

that's exactly right i have two servers i think i'm the only human being that has these servers where you can put cut-ups from years past you can continue to make cut-ups from last week's games

offensive cut-ups defensive cut-ups blocking scheme red zone you name it and uh when the players start coming in in the offseason i have everything ready to go and we can start analyzing and studying things specifically that's so cool that's that sounds like a great setup that you guys have down there so you're grinding the tape you're going through it like you would uh an actual coach do you have like a staff is there a hierarchy of like who's the head fired football coach

Well, I'm the head man here. I pay the bills. So if you pay the electricity, you know, you get the big desk. I got the big room here, but I have my assistant, Jeff Leonardo, who was with me at Monday night with me with the Raiders.

He's my only full-time employee. I can't afford a full staff right now, but we're working hard, man. We're on our way back, and we're eager for that next opportunity down the road. So your YouTube channel, Gruden Loves Football, I love it because it's you talking into the camera and getting sweaty, getting really intense. And I don't know how much of it you put on as an act, but I choose to believe that it's 100% authentic that you're sitting there

in the dark watching quarterback film, and you're just sweating thinking about how good they are. Is that fair? It's pretty much accurate. I love to do three or four games a week. And I think to do a decent job, you've got to study –

Every team's offense and every team's defense. You got to study the matchups. You got to look at the red zone, short yardage, goal line, two minute drill. You got to look at the rotation of players, the injury list. And what it does is it keeps me on schedule, keeps me up to breast as to who's doing what in the NFL, where personnel is going, who's emerging, who's declining, etc.

and it's stimulating. I love it. And the channel's name, Gruden Loves Football, is about as accurate as you can call it. I'd say so. Because I still do love the game even though I don't have a team. Yeah, we love guys who love football. I mean, we love football too. Sometimes football doesn't love us back, but we absolutely love guys who love football, and I think you fit the bill more than anybody. Yeah.

Well, you guys do too. I love watching your show. You guys are a little bit more harsh, a little bit more critically honest than me, but I love it, man. I absolutely love it. Some of the things that you guys say, I kind of say behind closed doors sometimes, but

Yeah, I think it's I think it's mutual. We got a lot in common. So so you said something there that I want to go back to. You said next opportunity. Are you actively trying to get back into coaching? Because I would we would love to see you back on a sideline. How's that process going? And is it NFL? Is it college or is it whoever's going to give you that next opportunity?

Yeah, I try not to overanalyze it. I just try to stay ready and be ready to go. If that opportunity does arise, I know this, I'll be ready to go. But in the meantime, I'm having a blast. I really am. I enjoy what I'm doing. I've had a chance to spend some time with my wife, see a little bit of the sights. I've even got my golf game now where it's pretty competitive, so I like that. Okay. All right. Are you still waking up at 317 in the morning every day? No.

I'm a little bit later than that, but it's, it's four o'clock in the morning. I like to get in and get out. I like to have a day left when I get out of work. I like to come in here when there's nobody up, nobody's around. I can pound the film for four or five hours, get a workout and go do something else. That's great. So let's talk about the NFL right now. What are, what are some of the big picture trends that you're seeing? I know you're not a fan of the RPO game. Uh,

And the clapping cadence. I read that. What's your gripe with that? And what do you think is missing in today's NFL?

Well, I don't like passing plays with the offensive line run blocking. I don't like seeing quarterbacks getting their ass knocked off because of this ridiculous protection offense that I'm watching. That's what RPO stands for me. I mean, when you blitz a run play, the quarterback gets rocked. And some of these hits and some of these injuries that quarterbacks are getting running the ball, it makes me sick. I just saw another kid in Washington get hurt yesterday.

But anyways, I try to look at the RPO game. I don't want to see Friday night offense in high school all day Saturday and then see it on Sunday. I want to see these NFL quarterbacks drop back to pass, throw an array of routes with different route trees and audibles. I want to see a professional style of pass offense. I don't want to see the Friday, Saturday night football. Yeah. So which quarterback right now do you think fits that mold the best? Who's playing at the top of their game?

Man, I don't even think it's close. I did a thing with the Detroit Lions last week. I think Jared Goff is starting to look like Joe Montana to me. He plays with continuous movement. He completes almost every single pass. He's tough as hell. He has continuity in the same system. He knows and anticipates what plays are going to be called.

They move the ball around, man. They throw it to the tight end, both backs. They throw it to all these different receivers. They have a real impressive balanced offense, but I don't even think it's close. I got Goff way up there on my list. Yeah, he's been on fire. And he's interesting because he was okay in L.A. He was not a bad quarterback for the Rams. And then you've seen that they kind of cast him aside. They said they wanted somebody who can win them a Super Bowl. They got Stafford.

Goff goes up to Detroit, kind of forgotten about, and then he gets better and better as the years go on. And it's just kind of a reminder that not always, you know, you can't take a 23 year old and say like, this is the peak of their ability. They're going to continue to improve. So how do you do that? How do you weigh that as a coach and,

saying we've got this guy who's supposed to be really good, all the physical tools, but he's just not getting it done when he's 23, 24 years old. How do you get through that spot and give that guy another chance or a chance to improve until like their late 20s, early 30s?

Well, I was shocked that they traded Goff personally. I wasn't on board with that trade. I mean, not only did they trade Goff, they traded three first-rounders with Goff. And I see where the Lions are now, and I see where the Rams are now. And right now, I'd rather be with Detroit. But, you know, Goff did take them to the Super Bowl. And Bill Belichick and the Patriot defense did a great job playing that 4-3 defense, what they hadn't shown a lot during the season. And they stymied the Rams there.

And I know Matt Stafford's got a cannon and I love watching him wing it. But obviously the longevity, the mobility of Stafford now isn't what it was three years ago. But I would have hung in there with Goff personally. He's a grade A guy. He's smart as hell. He's a great competitor and he's young.

and it's hard to depart with a quarterback that has that much upside and future, in my opinion. Yeah, so it's a good point. Obviously, the Rams won a Super Bowl, but they did trade a lot of first-round picks and mortgage a little bit of the future. You, for people who don't know, because we have fans that maybe were very young at the time, you were traded from the Raiders to the Bucs.

for a haul. Like, it's actually shocking to look at because I don't think that would happen in today's NFL. When you got traded, what was it? It was two first round picks, right? And it was some more picks on top of that. Did you, when that happened, when that all went down, was there a part of you like,

This might bite me in the ass going down the line because I'm going to Tampa, which is a great team, won a Super Bowl, but I'm also hurting myself four or five years down the line because we're giving up all these picks to the Raiders where I'm leaving.

Yeah, I mean, that was brutal. I mean, we won the Super Bowl our first year. We had a hell of a defense. Our offense came around. But, you know, when the season is over and you got to get ready for the draft and you don't have a first round pick and then whoops, you don't have a second round pick and then you don't have a first round pick or a second round pick the next year.

that's tough when you see the saints bringing in drew breeze and Jeremy Shockey and the Falcons are bringing in Michael Turner and Tony Gonzalez and John Abram. And people forget at that time, Carolina was a pain in the ass, man. They had Julius peppers and Mike Rucker and Steve Smith and Moose and Muhammad, two great backs. They represented the NFC and the super bowl. So yeah, you're right. That was a, that was a tough time when you sacrifice that much, uh,

draft capital, it can come back and bite you pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty shocking to look back at it. It was two first rounds, two second rounds, and $8 million. That wouldn't happen in today's NFL. I feel like teams are a lot more protective of their picks, and the way to get better is through the draft.

Um, but that defense and that Superbowl team was incredible and flags fly forever. Uh, where would you rank that your bucks defense in terms of all time defenses? Because you guys were an absolute wrecking crew for hall of famers, maybe a fifth. If you want to say Simeon rice, uh, could, could eventually end up there. Uh, where do you rank them though? In all time defenses?

Well, selfishly, I'd rank them very high. I try not to get into all the nostalgia. I mean, I don't know the 75 Steelers, the Dolphins, the 17 and 0 Dolphins. I mean, you don't know those teams, the Chicago Bears, the 85 Bears. Unbelievable. We lost to the Ravens in the AFC championship game when I was with Oakland. They were really good teams.

But what we did with that defense, guys, is we scored touchdowns on defense. I knew we had a hell of a defense. We didn't have a hell of a team when I got to Tampa. We had a hell of a defense. And we challenged the defense, if you're that good, why don't you start scoring touchdowns? I mean –

Pick up the ball and run it back for a touchdown. Don't just intercept the ball. Get a block and score. And I challenged them. This is no kidding. I said, hey, I want nine touchdowns. And it really pissed them off. They're like, who the hell is this guy coming in here telling us to score nine touchdowns? And I'll never forget this. When Dwight Smith intercepted Gannon for the last time in the Super Bowl and ran it back,

Warren Sapp grabbed me and he said, you want nine touchdowns? There's number nine. They scored nine touchdowns. I think that's what really separated us from other defenses is not only did we stop the run and we're really tough against the pass, but we scored touchdowns. Yeah, I love that. You spoke it into existence. You said, I believe you can get nine. And in the back of their head, they might have subconsciously believed you the entire time. That's pretty crazy. So when you were on the Bucs,

Yeah.

Yeah, I tried to make sure those two guys didn't hit each other because I wanted to save those hits for Sunday. But we had a lot of etiquette rules and we tried to enforce them probably harder than I ever had done before because it was so competitive. This was an this was an alpha defensive team who had taken great pride in punishing the offense twice a day in training camp.

and throughout the off season. But when I got there, we had to make sure they stay away from the quarterback and we try to protect each other. And that's pretty common around the league. Yeah. Yeah. I got a, this is a question from our, our friend, Steven Chase, a diehard Bucks fan who loves you. He wanted, he wanted me to have you, I'm going to read a play call out to you and he wants you to, to explain exactly what it means. Some real football nitty gritty stuff.

Green, right, X, shift to Viper, 382, X, stick, Lukey. It's X, stick, Lukey. Lukey, Lukey, Lukey. Green, right, X. X was a tag that switched.

the Z and the X. So McArdle and Keyshawn Johnson would switch sides. So green was the backfield set. It was an I formation green, right? X are two receivers switched. When we shifted the Viper, right? Viper are empty backfield sets were named after snakes at that time. So we had Cobra Viper Python. We had a lot of different reptiles and snakes you see, but it was green, right? X shift to Viper, right?

And it was 380 or 382 at that time, which was the protection. And X stick was on one side and look, he was on the other.

It was a pick a side play for the quarterback, but Greenwright X shipped a Viper right. 382 X Dick. Lookie. The only guy that ever had a hard time calling that play was Chris Sims. And unfortunately they caught me on video getting ticked off about it. Yeah. You basically, you basically reinvented algebra just in, in the name of football plays. They get, they get like so long, but you are a math guy. I remember I saw a video. You can count backwards by threes from any number. No,

I can go forward better than backward. But I don't have a lot of intelligence. I will say this. When I did Monday Night Football for nine years, I studied different terminologies. I grew up in Bill Walsh and Mike Holmgren's 49er West Coast system, which is very wordy at times. But for the six or seven years, the last six or seven years, I started studying different

New terminologies, new ways to streamline it so we could get out of the huddle and be quicker. And our new terminology that we had with the Raiders those last couple years, if you get with Darren Waller or

Hunter Renfro or Derek Carr, it was a lot easier to say, I do believe. Yeah. Yeah. Because sometimes they do, it sounds like they go on for like five seconds of the play clock. I'm like, we need to shorten this down a little bit, get up to the line of scrimmage. You were talking about the RPOs, how you don't like that new evolution of the game. Is there something in the game, like a new wrinkle that you're looking at and you're saying, hey, this is actually really cool. I think that this actually has a future. Yeah.

Well, don't get me wrong. I think the RPOs are great until you see a lot of man coverage or you start seeing some blitzing because your quarterback has to hold the ball and sometimes the protection breaks down. But, um,

I like tempo. I like changing of speeds. I like the no huddle offense. Don't get me wrong. And I do like having three different tempo speeds where you have maybe 15 or 20 words in every game plan, or you say the word, man, you say Tina Turner, or you say Bruce Springsteen. And that means everything formation play everything. And we're gone, man, before you could even say PTI, it's gone. I

And then we get up there and we might slow the tempo down, use a dummy count and try to read the defense's mail a little bit. And then we might use some motions, maybe two or three motions and milk it all the way down to six seconds to try to get into the perfect play and take advantage of that coach to quarterback walkie talkie. But I'm not going to do that.

But I love the teams that change speeds. I'm very interested in Seattle with this Grubbs cat from Washington. I think they're doing some of this. And they tore Atlanta up the other day. And I think they're kind of on the cutting edge of what I'm talking about in terms of changing up the speeds to keeping these defensive coordinators off balance. You know, these defensive guys, they have a hard time calling plays until they know what personnel is on the field.

And I give the defensive guys a hard time because they're not as smart and intelligent as us offensive guys. So the more we can screw with these guys in terms of changing speeds and changing personnel, the more you can have success. So you mentioned Seattle.

Is there another offense that you've watched the tape of and you're like, they're doing something different and special and watch out for these guys? Because I love whenever a coach comes on and tells us that, like, hey, this is what we're not seeing right now. They may not be the best team in the league, but what they're doing is something that's different that everyone's going to eventually probably copy.

Well, I went up to Kansas City and spent five or six days with the Chiefs in training camp. Andy's a good friend of mine, and they afforded me that opportunity. I just think the way that they practice, the way that they work behind the scenes, they're on the cutting edge.

And they have been able to adapt to so many incredible, I mean, incredible changes on their offense. Left tackle, they're playing a rookie. They lose Pacheco. They lose their receivers. I mean, it's amazing what they've been able to accomplish as they reinvent their offense. But I always love watching them.

And I like watching Kyle Shanahan's stuff on first and second down. I think their run and play action pass marries together really good. I enjoy watching that. And I like LeFleur, honestly, up in Green Bay. And I've been keeping some tabs on Houston a little bit too here lately, although they kind of disappointed me yesterday late in the game. Yeah. So about that, Houston, they have all the talent in the world. C.J. Stroud is a very good quarterback.

but it has looked clunky at times. Offensive line has not been great. Let me actually ask you this. What do you do when your offensive line is not great? How do you fix it in season knowing you can't get help from free agency, you can't probably get a trade because offensive linemen don't get traded like that? What is a fix from a coaching perspective for an offensive line that's getting your quarterback killed?

Man, it's hard. You know, it's very hard when you lose some linemen. I'm watching the New Orleans Saints. They've lost four or five linemen. Yeah. It's hard to call plays, hard to run, hard to run block, hard to pass protect. And the way we have to practice, guys, that's what ticks me off as a coach. I fought a little bit with people behind the scenes about not being able to wear pads during training camp or not being able to pad it up

twice a week during practice. I'm not talking about every period, but being able to go out there and work on some stunt pickups and one-on-one pickup with pass protection. You know, when you just think you're going to go out there in shorts and have a walkthrough and have eight or nine, you know, stunts in shorts pickup, and then go out there and pick up Micah Parsons screaming in the A-gap, you're whistling Zippity-Doo-Dah out your butt. You know what I mean? So pass protection is falling apart right now, I think.

because of the way we're practicing and the injuries that are occurring. Now, I've never seen before. I've never seen so many big guys miss time. I remember certain seasons where Lyman never missed a snap. Yeah. Yeah. So when you're watching this tape, obviously you're an offensive guy and your eye goes to the offense. I like to also think that you still have that football coach mentality where you see a great defensive player and you actually get scared watching him. You're like, oh, shit, this guy's –

This guy's going to give me nightmares. I'm going to wake up tomorrow and think about Micah Parsons. Is there anybody else in the NFL right now that has that effect on you, where you watch them and you're like, I'm really glad I don't have to coach against this guy? Well, my favorite players, I don't know.

I love Micah Parsons when he plays. I mean, his motor's insane. You know, I really like guys like Fred Warner of the 49ers. I got a lot of respect for him, how he plays the game. Chris Jones, Bosa. I'm talking about Nick Bosa in San Francisco. Those guys are incredible players.

And I do like the two inside linebackers of the Chiefs. If you ever get a chance to watch Tranquil and Bolton, they'll kick your ass, man. And they know what they're doing, and they cover for each other. They're great communicators. And right now, they just don't make any missed tackles. They're sure tackling guys. But Buda Baker in Arizona is one of my favorite players. I love watching him play. I like this Mafi guy, Mafi out in Seattle. I didn't know much about him until I started studying these Seahawks.

Dexter Lawrence is the one guy though, I would say that is probably the one, one guy we would struggle with the most. If you don't have a guard, if you don't have a center, you're in trouble against the giants because that guy's pretty good, man. Yeah. And what about Gruden grinders? Are you still awarding Gruden grinders? Yeah. Yeah, we do. We try to pick five Gruden grinders in college and five or six in the pros every week. And,

we try to pick, you know, the Gruden grinder criteria. You gotta be a off the radar kind of guy. You gotta be a, a teamwork kind of guy, versatile, smart, tough, mentally tough guy. That's clutch. So we're always looking for Gruden grinders. Do you have, do you have like a number one Gruden grinder in the NFL right now? Well, right now it'd be hard to say it's only seven games into the season, but, um,

You know, the little running back in Tampa, this Bucky Irving. He's starting to really fire me up. This guy, he's starting to catch the ball better. He's picking up blitzes a little bit better. And if he hangs on to the ball, I know he had that big fumble against Atlanta, but if he hangs on to the rock, he's going to be on my old Gruden grinder team. It's also fun to say Bucky Irving. It's just a good name. Yeah, it's a great name. It is.

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We got to get you. So we give out a yearly trophy award to the fullback of the year in college football. If you'd like, we'd love to have you be a voter on the award. It's called the Low Man Trophy. And we've got some guys who are playing the NFL now. Hunter Lepke won it. He's on the Cowboys. Alec Ingold on the Dolphins. So we're trying to shine some lights on the guys that probably aren't getting a lot of publicity.

Well, we had Alec Engel. I coached Alec in the senior bowl when he was coming out of Wisconsin. We signed Alec, and I don't know why the Raiders let him go, but he's a poor man's use check. Use check is my favorite fullback of all. The things that he does in San Francisco, it's insane, man. He's whamming the nose tackle.

He's reaching a defensive end. I like him. I like the big guy in Baltimore, too, this Patrick Ricard. Yeah, yeah. And I know Harbaugh down in Los Angeles, Charger land, is trying to duplicate it with that Maddock guy they got out of Boise State. Yeah.

Alec Engold is certainly pretty good. I think he'll benefit when Tua comes back to play quarterback so they can become a little bit more pro-style. Yeah, probably. So you mentioned the Harbaughs. Is there any sibling rivalry between the Grudens and the Harbaughs? No, not really. I don't think so. We never really crossed paths much with the Harbaughs. Coach Harbaugh came to the Raiders after I left.

And I did get a chance to spend some time with John Harbaugh and Todd Monk in this offseason here at the FFCA. So if you get those guys on your show, you can even ask them. They were here representing the Ravens. Yeah, the Harbaughs, they're good friends of ours. I was wondering who would win in a fight between the two sets of brothers. I'm not messing with Jim Harbaugh. John Harbaugh.

You've seen that guy lately. He looks like he lives in a weight room. I'm good friends with Tom Crean also, and Tom Crean, the great basketball coach. Now, I think he's at ESPN still, but he married Harbaugh's sister. So it's quite a coaching relationship.

family that they have. And I'm really, I'm excited to watch the Harbaugh Raven team come in here tonight. They play the Bucks here in Tampa. What about the Ryan brothers? Do we have any beef with the Ryan brothers? Because we just love, we love just making up beef where it's brothers, coaching brother duos going up against each other.

No, not really. You know, Rex kicked my ass when he was with the Baltimore Ravens in the AFC championship game. He had, they had quite a defense, but I never really got to coach against Rex more than that. I think that one time and Rob is still with the Raiders. My son Deuce is still with the Raiders. He's one of the strength coaches down there. And if you know,

Rex or Rob Ryan, you know, those guys are great, man. They are fun. I got to go visit the jets when Rex was the head coach. He let me come out there when I was doing Monday night football. We spent about three days out there. What a staff they had with Mike West off and Mike Pettin and, you know, just a heck of a group of guys. We really enjoyed that. Yeah. We're, we're big fans of your son deuce. We've met him a couple of times, uh,

he just, whenever, you know, we'd see him, I mean, he's a, he's an accomplished weightlifter. What is he, what's his weightlifting routine these days? I mean, he's just, he, he feels like he just loves football as much as you, and he just found a way into the game through the strength and conditioning. Well, he played football at Lafayette in Pennsylvania and he's a running back and he wanted to be a strength coach. He won the world champion powerlifting meet. My wife and I flew to Belarus. If you can believe that he won the,

strongest man in the world, 180-pound guy with the bench press, the squat, and the deadlift, but he still lifts. I remember one time I was down there with the Raiders, and Richie Incognito was our strongest player, and Richie had a hard time getting the 455 pounds off his chest because in powerlifting, it's by commands. It's down. I don't know what the commands are. They say press, so you have to do it from a complete negative perspective.

And I remember Deuce knocking up about 455 and incognito struggling and all the players giving Richie a hard time. It was it was pretty cool. But he still lifts. He still trains. And I think he's hoping to get back into the competitive part of it. Yeah, we saw him out in L.A. this year and he looks just as strong as ever. So his name's not Deuce, though. It's John. And you called him Deuce because he's John the second?

Well, that was, that was what everybody thinks. When I was coaching for the Green Bay Packers, Sterling Sharp was our best player. He was our receiver. I coached the receivers and Sterling wore number two at South Carolina. Everybody called him deuce. I said, that's a pretty cool name. So I started thinking, you know, John David, the second Sterling Sharp, I really named him after Sterling Sharp, to be honest with you. Um,

He was a hell of a player. You guys should help get him in the Hall of Fame. It's too bad he got hurt. Yeah, yeah. No, he was incredible in his career cut short. Speaking of your time in Green Bay and all your travels, you were on part of that coaching staff that had a bunch of head coaches come out of that in the mid-'90s Packers.

In terms of your coaching tree, you got, you know, guys like Mike Tomlin, Raheem Morris, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan. Do you find yourself rooting extra hard for guys that you are under your tree, so to speak?

Pretty much. I mean, if it's one of the guys I know against one of the guys that you know, I'm rooting for my guy. What is it about Mike Tomlin? I have a question about him because he just – it's so consistent, and every year it feels like the Steelers are in the same spot where –

You know, teams discount them and say they got no chance. And then he always just he has a competitive team year in, year out. What is it with Mike Tomlin that has that special sauce that he's always able to get the most out of his team?

I think number one, he's a great communicator. He's a great motivator and he's very consistent and he's not a basket case. He doesn't come in different one day and different than next people believe in them. They trust them. And, um, he knows what he's talking about. He's also in a superior organization. You know, they have had a great organization from top to bottom. And I think he really allows people to do their thing. And, um,

He's not one of these abrasive guys. He's just a great communicator. He's a very smart football guy. He knows how to use people.

people and their talents. And he's been very good at delegating when he has to delegate. And he's been very good at taking the chalk and saying, here's what we're doing. And there's a fine line to that, I think, being a great coach. He's overcome the loss of a lot of different offensive coordinators. And now he's putting it together without Ben Roethlisberger, which a lot of people thought he would struggle doing. But it's a great

I think it's a credit to his imagination, his creativity, his people skills, and nobody's a better competitor than Tomlin. He is a, he's a guy that'll fight you till the end, whether you want to fight or not. Yeah. He, and it does feel like, uh, history has been,

been kind to Mike Tomlin in the fact that he's had locker rooms with some big personalities that have gone other places and you're like, how did Tomlin keep that together? Was there, did you call Coach Tomlin when Antonio Brown came to your team and you're like, hey, what do I do here? Because it did feel like he was able to push the right buttons with AB and maybe teams after that weren't able to find all the right buttons.

Well, you know what? That was probably one of the more disappointing things that I had to go through as a coach. I studied Antonio when I went and watched the Steelers practice when I was doing Monday Night Football. I knew Butch Jones. I know Butch Jones, who coached Antonio in college. And the work ethic, the practice etiquette, the conditioning of this man, the route running, good God.

He came to our mini camp and he put on a display when he was on the grass for us. I really thought we were going to win every game. I thought we were going to complete every pass. He is a certified badass when it comes to running routes. I just think he got later in life and he found some different interests and, uh,

I don't know what happened, but I did have some brief conversations with Mike, obviously, along the way. And, you know, I just had hope that putting him in our locker room with some of the veteran leadership that we had, I thought maybe we could –

we could really help him take off and take his game to even another level. But you got to put that on me. It just didn't work out. What were the updates like for you during that? It felt like two weeks of just chaos. Was there somebody that would come in your office and say, sir, Antonio Brown has just arrived in the hot air balloon. He's frozen his foot off. Sir, Antonio Brown doesn't like his helmet, sir. Uh,

you know what? The NFL was so, the NFL was so kind. They put us on hard knocks. So, you know, we had some characters on that team. We had Richie Incognito and Antonio and Vontaze Burfecht and, and,

we really had a great group of guys, but I'd never heard of cryotherapy. I don't know if you guys have heard of it, but evidently he burned his feet doing cryotherapy. And I'd never had a player show up on a hot air balloon before. I was excited about that, but everything was different. You know, the helmet we had an issue with. And unfortunately it just did not work out. We never really got to spend enough time together to build a relationship with

And that's what I regret the most. I felt had we been able to be around each other, maybe a little bit more, perhaps it would have worked out. Yeah. You were talking about good organizations like the sealers. You've coached for some good organizations, your brother, Jay, I'll just say he hasn't been as lucky with some of the organizations that he's worked for in the past and the leadership. But from the top down, like, what does that look like if you're a head coach and you're

the difference between just a good organization with stable ownership and a bad organization. Like what are the day-to-day implications and things that come up when you have to deal with just a team that might not have it all together?

Well, I think that's a great question. I think it all starts with communication and knowledge. You know, I think the owner that really, or the owner that hires people that really are on top of the league, the matchups, the rules, you know, the playing rules, the scheduling, there's so many details. The financial piece of this and hiring a staff,

the facilities. There's a million things that you need to address. And to have an owner who's around perhaps enough to stay on top of all these issues and really have a competitive edge about it, if you know what I mean, I think those are the places that really...

are a cut above. Yeah. In the like 2010s, early 2010s, the NFL Network did a top 100 NFL players of all time. You had Jerry Rice's number one of all time. Is that still the case?

Yeah, that would be for me. I mean, I was telling somebody the other day that the thing that Jerry Rice, you know, you hear about some of these receivers now, you know, their stats and all this. Jerry Rice never caught a bubble screen. I don't know if Jerry Rice caught three quick screens either. He didn't want those routes. He was running patterns, man. And the greatest thing about Jerry Rice is I really believe he loved the misery.

37, 38 years old, whenever it was when he came to the Raiders to play opposite Tim Brown, his body didn't feel good. He was sore as hell. He was tired. He was beat up. We were behind. We weren't getting in the ball enough. They were rotating coverage to him. And that's when he kicked your ass. That's when he played his best. When he was miserable, that's when Jerry Rice was the hardest to stop.

And I think that's what separates the great ones from the really good ones is their ability to go out there and just lay it down, man, when they're not at their best. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a great pick for, for best player of all time. It was incredible. And you've been around enough football. I mean, you love football so much. You created like a synthetic football team in South Florida that you guys can study tape on. You clearly love football. You're a football guy through and through. You've been around so many great coaches. Who is the top football guy?

And he might not be the best coach. Might not be the best coach that you would think of. But one guy that just eats, breathes, and shits football. You're talking about living? Yeah. Man, that's a good question. Good question. I'm going to Bloomington, Indiana this week.

to find out what the hell's going on with the best story in all of football. That's the Indiana Hoosiers. This Cignetti guy. Cignetti, he takes James Madison. He's undefeated at James Madison, 12-1. Indiana's 7-0, man. They just beat Nebraska 56-7. I heard this guy absolutely loves it. I'm going to try to sneak into practice or sneak around to walk through and find out

But there's so many guys that love it. You know, to try to rank them right now, I would say that would be tough. Sean McVay, I think, loves it. Just after working with Sean, I know how hard he works. Mike Tomlin's one of the guys that loves it. I think Tomlin would do it for free, to be honest with you. But I can't say. I think Bill Walsh was the number one guy I was ever around. Al Davis would be right up there.

because of their 24 seven year round the clock passion for it. Yeah. Do you ever give Sean McVay shit? Because over the years he's changed his voice a little bit to try to sound more like you. No, they just, they got to start winning some games because since that Superbowl, I know people quote my one loss record after we won the Superbowl. Ah, it ain't worth a shit. You know, they gotta, they gotta get back in gear and get back to that Superbowl and win it. Do you, do you think Sean has gotten a little too pretty? Uh,

with the facial hair being perfect and the perfect hair, and he looks like he put on some muscle. Do you think he's gotten too pretty?

Probably. You know, all these guys nowadays, they have beards. I couldn't grow. I still can't grow a beard. But all these coaches, I saw Shanahan on TV the other day. He had a beard. Tomlin's got a big old beard down there on the field. I like to clean shave. When I was Bobby Knight's ball boy when I was a kid, you had to have hair above the ear. You had to have clean facial hair above.

I don't like all these beards. Even Mike McCarthy, Mike and I worked together at the University of Pittsburgh. Even he's got a big old beard now, so...

I don't know what the hell kind of style is going on with these coaches. What are they trying to hide with that beard? Wait, you were Bobby Knight's ball boy? I was. My dad coached at Indiana for Lee Corso when I was a kid, and Bobby Knight's son Tim and I were best friends. So I was one of the ball boys for the Hoosiers. We were 33-0, by the way, 32-1. Quinn Buckner, Scotty May, Kent Benson. I got to be –

The ball boy for the red team. I love it. The backup players. And Tim was the, he was the ball boy for the starters and they would kick the red team's ass. So coach Knight would come in and he would lay some, um,

down that I had never heard before. Wait, how old were you when this was happening? Dude, I was 11 years old, 12 years old. 10, 11, and 12. That's incredible. Would Bobby Knight ever get mad at you for your ball boy technique? Would he ever be like, what the hell are you doing over there, Gruden? He might get mad at me.

You know, my hair was probably over my ears for one of the bus trips. I think that's the only time he got on my case. So, so what point in, when you were growing up, did you know that you wanted to be a coach? Was it, was it as early as, you know, 10, 11, 12? You're like, this is for me. I love this.

I pretty much knew in high school, my dad was coaching at Notre Dame. Joe Montana was our quarterback and we were beating people, man. And that fight song and going to those Notre Dame games was great. And I kind of realized, you know what? I'm not going to be an NFL player. I'm not good enough. I was a backup quarterback at University of Dayton.

And being around that Notre Dame locker room, those kids, the kind of guys that they had, the fact they were winning the tradition. I knew I wanted to do it when I was a junior in high school. And that's probably why I wasn't a great student. And yeah,

But at least I found my passion and my mom and dad encouraged me to go for it. Wait, so at Dayton, what was your record? What was your team's record against San Diego? We know that that's a big rivalry. We were with Coach Harbaugh during training camp, and there's a story that he created a rivalry flag for

without even telling Dayton that he was doing it. And so after they beat him one year, they were just like, this is our flag now. And the Dayton coach was like, what do you mean? You just created that? And he wanted to juice up the rivalry. But how did you guys do against San Diego? Well, that was before we were in that conference. We did not play San Diego. But the funny thing about San Diego is when I was coaching for the Bucs, there was a quarterback at San Diego I kind of liked.

So I called Harbaugh. He said, hell yeah, he's pretty good. So we drafted him Tampa Bay in the fifth round, and the sucker's still playing. His name is Josh Johnson. He's played for about 25 years. I think he's played for every team in the league now. And that's unbelievable, isn't it? Yeah, that is. What is it, though? I love Josh Johnson. He seems like a good guy. You wouldn't get all these jobs if you were a bad dude. He's obviously a professional. Coaches like him. Teammates like him. Why hasn't a guy like that been able to stick around with one team?

I don't think he throws it personally. I don't think he throws it consistently great. I think when you go watch him, you're like, what the hell's wrong with your, he has a nice throwing motion. He has a good arm. Don't get me wrong, but it's not a pretty smart spiral. It's not always accurate, but you know what? Every time I see him in a game,

The guy comes alive when the lights are on, man. He's really something. He's a gamer. I think he's a guy that can survive on a few reps. He probably just lacks the talent, the elite talent to be an everyday starter. Yeah, I just feel like a backup quarterback like that that's proven that they can be a good backup, even an emergency guy that you put in, that guy should have a job as a backup on a consistent team.

Yeah, he still has a job right now. I mean, he's still in the league. And matter of fact, when Jay was coaching, I think his last year in Washington, they got decimated. Alex Smith got hurt. Haskins got hurt. Colt McCoy got hurt. They brought in Sanchez, I think, and ended up signing Josh Johnson. And he played really good. The games he got in. Yeah. So what about you, coach? Do you have a coach? Are you have you been at the top of your own coaching hierarchy for a while and you don't have somebody that that's barking orders at you and screaming at you?

Well, my wife, you should see how that's going, fellas. I mean, she's tough. My wife, she cheered at Tennessee. That's where I met her. She's five feet tall. She's a cute little gal and she's running the show now. I'm just, I'm doing my best, man. I'm trying to reinvent myself as a more productive person.

you know, assistant around the house, but she's dancing. She's a ballroom dancer for Fred Astaire and she dances really well. And she dances with these really handsome guys. And I'm just kind of,

I'm just kind of over here cleaning the house. Jealous. Is there ever a moment when you're getting up at four in the morning to go into your facility where she has to be like, Hey, uh, John, you're not, you're not on a team right now. Like you don't have to go in at 4.00 AM. That happens a lot. It happens a lot. I'm in Butch Jones brought some of the Arkansas state guys down and, uh, Dow Loggins from South Carolina brought a couple of the game caught coaches over and,

I still look at it like it's the last thing in life, man. Just the opportunity to help somebody get better. That's what this game has always been for me. You just love bringing in a guy and have him play better for you than he did for the other guy. There's something that really fires me up about that. When you study something all offseason and you can help somebody and you see them use it in a game and have success with it,

That's awesome. Was Rich Gannon the quintessential guy that you just described? Because obviously he was not lighting the world on fire, and then you got your hands on him, and he had some great seasons. Yeah, Gannon was unbelievable, man. I mean, he...

He single-handedly, I think, turned that franchise around. I got a lot of credit for some of the good things that happened, but his attitude, his desire to be great, he'd walk in the office and say, what do you got for me? Coach me, give me something. I mean, he needed tip sheets. And the more control we gave him at the line of scrimmage, the more plays, the more personnel groupings, the better he played. The more we asked him to do...

I told him one day, I said, one of these days, Rich, you're going to get on the plane and you're going to hit me right in the chest and say, wait, do you see this film? We didn't waste one play. And I remember one year we played up in Kansas city and we got after their ass. I was sitting in the front of the plane, having a cold beer. I was so happy. Gannon walked back toward the plane. He bumped me right on a chest. He goes, take a look at that film. He relished, um,

I mean, he was so into that. And if he audibled to a play where we had four on three or we were on a fast break, we had numbers, or he audibled for Tim Brown against their weak link corner and we didn't get it done, he'd be pissed off for a week. You know what I mean? Yeah. He was just into that. He was anally competitive, and I absolutely loved every minute of coaching that guy.

Yeah. Is there a guy that you've had? I know, obviously, when you coach guys, you coach them hard. That's kind of your style. You're going to yell at everybody. You're going to get in everybody's face. How do you know when there's a guy that maybe can't take as much pushing as you want to give him? And then do you dial it back or are you just like, this guy can't play for me? Yeah, I really, I don't yell at everybody. I never yelled at Jerry Rice. I really didn't yell at Tim Brown. I'm not going to yell at Steve Wisniewski or

you know, Barrett Robbins or something. I don't yell a lot of these guys. A lot of it's encouraging sarcasm. Uh, I try to piss you off one day. I try to stir the pot. You know what I mean, guys? I try to make you guys laugh, say something that really make you laugh. Uh, and I'll try to tick you off the next, the next day. And then I might try to fire you up. I

Might even try to well you up one day with a teary-eyed little comment or something. You know, but I like guys that are emotionally into it, genuine enthusiasm, and consistently there while we're out there. I just can't stand going through the motions with these dull,

boring meetings and lackluster practices. They drove me nuts. Yeah. So how do you start up if you're going through a lackluster meeting, if you've been walking around the building, you know, things are just kind of boring. What's your plan? What's your go to? Do you have like a book that you look up? You're like football coach tricks. Do you get on the phone with somebody? Do you talk to another coach or do you just have like creative energy to come up with something weird?

Well, creativity has always, I think, been part of being a good teacher. You know, you don't just run the same play from the same formation with the same drills. You got to mix it up. And I believe in analogies a lot. I would make videos, you know, talking about competitiveness might have a, I don't know, I might have a leopard, I might have a leopard taking a drink out of a puddle of water and

and have some alligator come out of the corner and snatch that freaking alley and snatch that guy right there for a snack. You know, you're not competing for dinner, man. You ain't competing, but just stupid analogies, um, having fun with these guys, demonstrations, whatever it may be using the, uh,

social media world. There's some unbelievable things. If you have a video guy on your staff or you have somebody that's helping you put together analogies that are relative to the team you're playing or to the guy you're coaching, you're

The players loved it and they appreciated it, I think, deep down somewhere. Yeah. All right. So this has been awesome, Coach. I got a couple last questions for you. The first is, so I'm a Bears fan, PFT is a Commanders fan, and our producer Hank's a Patriots fan. What have you seen from the rookie quarterbacks through limited sample size, but how are you feeling about Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, and Drake May going forward? Did those franchises get the right guy?

I really like the kid in Chicago, Caleb Williams. I think they got to protect him better, you know, against good defenses and obvious passing situations. I'm hoping he starts to do a little bit more at the line of scrimmage, fixing protections, getting out of certain protections when he knows there's a blitz coming that they can't pick up. And I think that'll help him big time moving forward. But his ability to throw the ball from awkward deliveries, his accuracy, his

I want to see Williams when the weather gets shitty up there in Chicago, though. That, to me, is going to be really important because, you know, having coached for the Green Bay Packers, I'm telling you, it is cold, man. It's hard to throw a ball. I couldn't throw Sterling Sharp ball drills in pregame. It was too cold for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jaden Daniels, I like Daniels a lot. Obviously, he's electrifying.

But I saw him get hit again. I saw him carry the ball 18 times in that first game against Tampa. I don't want to see this guy running the ball unless he's scrambling. And I want to see him protect himself a lot better because he's not the biggest guy. But I'll say this. He has been very impressive throwing and passing and competing. He's just going to be his own worst enemy. I'd be pissed at him every time he took a hit.

You know what I mean, guys? Yeah, yeah. Because that quarterback, he's the only guy on the team that can't play with a sore right shoulder or a jammed left – or a jammed right thumb. So we got to be really careful with him. And, you know, when it comes to Drake May, I just –

I think they have a long way to go with their offense. They really don't have much firepower at receiver. They don't really have a great offensive line. And they're playing behind a little bit. But I thought he showed some poise and he showed some real progress in the last

game and a half against Houston and Jacksonville out there in London. Yeah. I had a last question for you, coach. And again, thank you very much for joining us. I hope we can talk to you in person at some point. Come watch some football. By the way, what is your setup like for NFL Sunday? Well, I have this YouTube channel. As you know, you can go, you get all the games, you can flick back and forth, or you can put four at a time on. So we here at the FFCA, we've got two TVs. We can put

the game we really want to watch on the big one and we can put four games on at the bottom

And then you can put a couple of your buddies over there in the other room to study the game that you can't study. So they can give you a report at halftime. It's a sick world that I live in. I love it. I love that. Do you still love Spider 2? Why Banana? Spider 2. If you have a fullback, that's why I should be on your fullback board. Yes. You know, I'm watching the Rams. No disrespect to the Rams. I've been watching them all morning. They're an 11 personnel the whole game. They never have a fullback. No two-back sets.

How the hell do you go through a game? Short yardage yesterday against the Raiders. They get smashed on third and one three straight times. Put the fullback in there and throw a wide banana, man. What is it about that play that just makes it unguardable? You know what's great about the play? It's the protection. Spider two is the protection. Spider two, the line slides to the left and the fullback goes to the right in spider two.

If we call spider three, the line slides to the right and the back goes to the left. But spider two is an aggressive protection. If you're the right tackle, the right guard or the center, you block your inside gap. That's it. And you come down pissed off and knock the crap out of that inside gap. The linemen love the protection and it's a safe gap protection.

And then you have, obviously, the fullback bluffing and catching the ball. We used to throw a banana just to get Mike Allstott the ball on the sidelines so I could see Ray Buchanan of the Falcons try to tackle him. I loved it. Making these corners tackle Mike Allstott.

Hell, I didn't want to get in my car and go home unless I had that image in my mind. Yeah, I love it. I love it. All right, so I have one last question. Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com, promo code TAKE. This has been so much fun, Coach, and we definitely want to have you back on talking football week to week here and there. But I had one last question. Will Compton, you coached him.

What do you think about him as a football player? Real football guy. He's a football guy. He was the original Gruden grinder. When I started doing that segment on Monday night football, football, well, Compton's exactly what I'm talking about. It's not going to be pretty. He's not going to be Luke. He's not Luke Heakley. He's not Fred Warner. He's just not, he's just will freaking Compton, but he gets the job done, man. The guy's productive.

productive in any situation, and he fights his ass. I love Will Compton. You tell him I said hello. Well, listen, like PFT said, we got to get you here to Chicago to our studio, do in-person, maybe watch some football together, and then you get to watch. We have a Will Compton museum in the bathroom here, so you can visit it. Maybe you have something that you could put in there. But, yeah, he's got a full handicap stall in the bathroom. It's got all his stats and his jerseys. It's a beautiful museum.

Why don't you tell Will Compton to put a picture of himself up throwing up after Indiana kicked their ass 56-7. Oh, no. He's in a bad spot right now. He's not. Tell him I said hello. I love your show, and thanks for having me on. I hope the ratings don't plummet. No, this is going to be great. And, yeah, we would love to have you come by sometime, and thank you so much, Coach. It was great talking football with you. Yeah, Coach, I'm going to get your info, and I'm going to send you a text about the college football low man trophy.

Because we got Lorenzo Neal on there, Mike Allstotz on the committee. We would love to have you on there and shine some light on the fullbacks. That would be an honor. Thank you, guys. Welcome back to another Fyre Fest of the Week brought to you by our friends over at Morgan & Morgan. You know what really sucks?

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Okay, let's wrap up. We have Firefest of the Week. Henry? Yes. Go ahead. Not too bad of a Firefest. Could have been worse. I had a 6 a.m. flight back from Boston yesterday. Oh, no. I was staying at my uncle has a place in Cambridge, so like not too far from the airport. I was sleeping on an air mattress at his place. I had an alarm set for 445. Didn't drink a single beer. I had one single beer was given to me. Would have been rude to turn it down, but.

One beer, not bad. Alarm set for 445. It was on vibrate mode, so I did not hear it. My uncle kind of shook me at 515 and was like, hey, it's 515. I had to just instantly wake up, call an Uber right away, run downstairs, get to the airport. The flight stopped boarding at 545. I got to the airport at 535, and then my fire fest was that I had to be that guy in the line at security. Oh, okay.

Hey, I'm really sorry. I have a flight at 6. Do you mind? Hey, I'm really sorry. Do you have a flight at 6? Do you mind? Hey, I'm really sorry. I have a flight at 6. Do you mind? You're the worst. And then I had to full sprint to the airport to make it with one minute to spare. Did anybody say, yes, I do mind? No. It was in the clear line, so it was only like 10, 15 people. But I felt...

doing it super awkward but also it was the only way that I was going to make my fight and I did so worth it awkward felt like an asshole but sometimes it's got to be done I feel like you you lead this podcast definitely and having other people wake you up as your alarm for you yeah probably yeah well who knows with you guys I just talk about it yeah good point so did what did the people say

In the line? Yeah, like, no problem. Good luck. And they said someone else just did this. They hated your guts. Yeah. That's the worst. Although there's no one else, like, it's the 6 a.m., I think, is, like, the earliest flight, so I think it wasn't as big of a deal because there was no way anyone else was in a rush. And 6 a.m.,

The very, very early is definitely a different vibe than running in at two in the afternoon and everyone being like, dude, you couldn't have planned for this. Right. Yeah. It's clear that you just slept in. Yeah. When you sat down on the plane, were you breathing hard? Sweating? Oh, yeah. Sweating? It wasn't too long of a run, so no. I also lost my AirPods in the... Oh, that's terrible. Yeah, so that was the other Fyre Fest. Like...

I put them in the thing, grabbed what I thought I grabbed them, and then I got to the plane and went to take them out. I was like, fuck. That is terrible. Yeah. So you had to raw dog it? Yeah, but I slept. There you go. That's our guy. Probably didn't snore or anything. That's our guy. Definitely snored. Definitely snored. Probably got a boner. He's a healthy man. Yeah. All right, PFT. My Fyre Fest is that I have a problem. I have a problem. It's been going on for a few years now, and it's gotten worse in the last, I'd say, six months.

I can't stop ordering food to the wrong address. Yeah. So I used to be good for this once every two months or so, but it's been like an avalanche recently. So a couple Saturdays ago, I ordered $100 worth of Thai food, accidentally sent it to the office when I was at home, and didn't realize it until I got out and there was no delivery guy there at my front door. And I was like, fuck, wrong address. Then two days later, I ordered Greek soup to the wrong address. And...

I resolved to myself at the moment, it's going to stop happening. And it was the opposite. I was at work. I ordered to my house. And then two days ago, I did it again. And I just can't stop feeling it. You just got to check at the top. At least... So the beef was over at my house a couple Saturdays ago. And the day that I forgot and ordered soup to my house by mistake and sent it to the office...

the beef hit me up and he was like, hey, just so a heads up, I ordered roast pork by accident to your house because it was still the most recent address. So then I got home and I had two meals waiting for me at my front door, which was kind of nice. But I don't know how to fix this because I've tried to remind myself, but every time I order on Uber Eats, I accidentally send it to the wrong place. And it's a real problem that I have. Look at the top. I've only done that once and it was after Beer Olympics.

We got back to Chicago like two days after or whatever, a day and a half after. And I ordered like three different things, three different times. I ordered something like back to back to back from CVS to the hotel room we were staying at. Yeah. Because CVS, like you don't think like it wasn't a restaurant because obviously it was a restaurant. You would be like.

That restaurant's not in Chicago. It doesn't exist there. Right, right. But I just kept on trying to get something ordered to the office, and it just was going to the hotel. I feel like there's no worse feeling than being super excited about a meal. Yes. And you wait for an hour for that meal, and then you just open up the app, and you're like, well, fuck, now I got to wait an extra hour for the meal because it got delivered to the wrong place. Max did that. You remember with Taco Bell? Yeah.

Oh yeah, yep, did that That was a nice anniversary gift Yeah, I've got a real problem with that I don't know how to fix it because I've tried everything I don't know what to do about it I want to find like a homeless guy in my neighborhood That I can call up and be like Hey, there's food at the house again if you just want to stop You just have to stop ordering food to the office

But what do I do for lunch? I'm about to do it. I'm going to do it in about 30 minutes. And I am, if I fuck up when it's this front of my mind, then there's a real issue. You need to tell. I need to have somebody else order my food for me. Order for you. Yeah, yeah. Or like, it's got to be a submarine where you turn two keys to make it happen. And then my other Fyre Fest is I've got a new whitest thing that I've ever done. I don't know. It might not be right now. The current whitest thing that I've ever done. Is wearing the Luke McCaffrey t-shirt.

That's actually in the top three too. Okay, so I'm thinking back because for a long time, the whitest thing I've ever done was I, at one point, took a Hamilton-themed Peloton ride, which is pretty white. It's tough to beat that amount. The Luke McCaffrey Salute to Service jersey. That's pretty high up there. Might be. I don't know what it is. I love counterfeit jerseys. They're the best. So that might be number two. And then my third is I ordered a Halloween costume for my dog. Okay.

I've done that. So Blake is getting dressed up this year as Willie Nelson. Yeah. And I got him like it's got overalls on the front and like a little ukulele for a guitar. And then it's got the braids in his head. I ordered the extra large because Blake's a big boy. He's about like 125 pounds right now.

and the extra large does not translate to Blake's size. It looks like a smaller medium. So I got Blake dressed up in this Halloween outfit the other day, and I just wasted my money on this outfit. I think that's okay. I've done that. It's like a little mini Willie Nelson. Yeah. Why not? It is kind of adorable, though. Of course it is. Yeah. It's a dog in a costume. It rules. But it's also very white. Yeah.

All right. Mine is just simple that I last week was on a. Oh, that's very cool. You think that's a good outfit for Blake? Yeah, that's a very good outfit. Mine is very simple. I just last week I was on by because the Bears run the by and Wisconsin played Northwestern. And this week I'm just like in it. It's going to change Penn State on Saturday night and then commanders on Sunday. My mood could be completely wrecked until like Thanksgiving. Yeah.

Yeah. Somebody's going to be very depressed on Sunday night. And I have the Penn State, like, that's a double whammy. So I could be, I'm staring down the barrel of a gun. Am I crazy to think, though, that Wisconsin's not as bad as they looked at the start of the year? No, they're definitely better. But Penn State's very good. I'm just hoping. The difference between playing at 11 o'clock in the morning and 630 at night at Camp Randall is night and day. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Literally. Things could get dicey for you. I predict a split for you this weekend. I'll be in the building for Penn State Wisconsin. That makes me feel good. You'd be happy with a split? No, I'm saying that makes me feel good that Max is going to be there in Penn State gear. He's a cool guy. People are not happy. Penn State fans were not happy when I tweeted that I was going to go. Oh, I love that. I love that. What's your record? What do you mean? Oh, they had the whiteout game against Minnesota.

What's my record? What's your record for Penn State games attended by Max? I think 3-0? No, 2-1. I went to Michigan last year. That was the worst game ever. That was really the worst football game in the history of football. Yeah. Michigan didn't throw the ball. Yeah. They didn't throw the ball one time in the second half. Bullied you. I went, yeah. Bullied you. Beat Washington. There was like no quarterback play in that game on either side.

Yeah. But Drew Roller's a lot better this year than he was last year. It's way different, way different, way different. It's going to be a tough game. All right. Good show, boys. Numbers. Three. Five. Eighteen. Eleven. Nine and nine, Pogue. Seventeen. Seventeen. Twenty-one. Twelve. Twelve. T-B? Twelve. Love you guys.

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