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Timothy Snyder: The Politics of Impotence

2024/10/8
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Timothy Snyder: 本期节目讨论了将特朗普与希特勒或法西斯主义进行比较的合理性。Snyder 认为,这种比较并非简单的比喻,而是基于对历史政治模式的观察。他指出,法西斯主义并非单一模式,其表现形式多样,但研究历史模式有助于预测和理解潜在的政治风险。他认为,将特朗普与希特勒进行比较,并非旨在断言两者完全相同,而是为了指出两者之间存在的相似之处,并以此为鉴,避免重蹈覆辙。他还分析了特朗普和JD Vance所代表的‘过度阳刚的政治无能’,指出其核心在于表演性而非实际行动,他们通过贬低他人来进行政治运作,这是一种‘无能政治’,其本质是将所有政治都简化为选择敌人,而非为公共利益服务,这是一种法西斯主义的表现形式。此外,他还分析了特朗普的反犹太主义言论,指出其关于基因的言论带有明显的纳粹色彩,体现了种族优越性和基因优越性的观念,并逐步将反犹太主义正常化,其对泽连斯基的评价也基于陈旧的反犹太刻板印象。 Tim Miller: Miller 更多地是就 Snyder 的观点进行提问和引导,并补充了一些相关的新闻事件和评论,例如 Sidney Blumenthal 的文章,以及对美国国内政治中反犹太主义现象的讨论,并就乌克兰战争的走向和美国对乌克兰的支持力度等问题与 Snyder 展开了讨论。

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The discussion centers around the concerning trend of performative masculinity in politics, particularly with figures like Donald Trump and J.D. Vance. This style prioritizes tearing down opponents over actual governance and policy, echoing historical patterns of fascism.
  • Trump and Vance exemplify a politics of impotence, focused on personal attacks rather than policy.
  • This approach undermines the concept of the common good and encourages division.
  • It mirrors aspects of fascism, where the focus shifts to enemy selection over state function.

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Trump and Vance are pioneering a form of politics where American power means nothing, everything is bad, and politicians focus on tearing people down—and getting other Americans to do the same. Plus, the challenge of defining freedom, why conservative Jews are giving Trump a pass on his antisemitism, and a good and insightful poll on the presidential race. 

Timothy Snyder joins Tim Miller.

show notes Snyder's new book, "On Freedom") Sidney Blumenthal's piece on Trump's Hitlerian logic )