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A survivor's perspective: unabridged interview with Jordyn Hope

2023/12/28
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Jordyn Hope: 本人作为代理型孟乔森综合征的幸存者,分享了其在童年时期被诊断出各种疾病的经历,以及在成年后才意识到自己遭受虐待的过程。作者详细描述了母亲如何夸大或编造其疾病症状,以及这种行为对其心理健康和人际关系造成的长期影响。作者还讨论了在医院环境中感受到的复杂情绪,既有对医生的不信任,也有在医院获得关注和安全的舒适感。作者还谈到了与心理健康症状相关的身体症状,以及在成年后努力区分真实疾病和虐待造成的症状的挑战。 Andrea Dunlop: 主持人与Jordyn Hope讨论了玛雅·科瓦尔斯基案,以及围绕该案产生的关于医疗儿童虐待过度诊断的争议。主持人探讨了父母与孩子之间复杂的关系,包括纠缠、缺乏界限和父母化,这些在虐待情况下经常出现。主持人还探讨了玛雅继续为母亲辩护的复杂情感,以及幸存者听到他们的虐待被否认和抹杀的痛苦感受。 Andrea Dunlop: 本人与Jordyn Hope探讨了在玛雅·科瓦尔斯基案中,关于医疗儿童虐待被过度诊断的论点。主持人质疑了这一论点,并指出如果过度诊断确实存在,那么许多幸存者应该能够更早地摆脱虐待环境。主持人还讨论了儿童保护服务机构(DCF)和家庭分离方面的相关问题,指出许多家庭分离案例并非与虐待有关,而是与贫困和药物滥用等问题有关。主持人还强调了那些声称自己是系统受害者,但实际上并非如此的人,他们占据了本应属于真正受害者的资源和关注。 Jordyn Hope: 作者认为,关于医疗儿童虐待被过度诊断的说法与现实情况不符,因为即使有大量证据,许多受害者也无法摆脱虐待环境。作者还谈到了医疗系统和社会工作领域存在的问题,以及在玛雅·科瓦尔斯基案中,一些专家否认医疗儿童虐待现象存在的观点。作者对这些观点表示强烈反对,认为这等同于否认受害者的经历和痛苦。作者还谈到了自己作为幸存者,以及与其他幸存者交流时,对自身经历真实性的质疑,以及这种质疑对心理健康的影响。

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In this bonus episode, host Andrea interviews regular guest and friend of the show Jordyn Hope, a survivor of Munchausen by proxy abuse. Jo shares their personal story of revelations of abuse and recounts the emotional toll of constantly having to prove their own sickness. 

Andrea and Jo discuss the Maya Kowalski case and Jo provides insight into the parent-child dynamics, including the enmeshment, lack of boundaries, and parentification often seen in abusive situations. Andrea and Jo grapple with the complicated feelings around Maya's continued defense of her mother.  

Jo also opens up about how painful it is for survivors to hear their abuse erased and denied. They offer a message of validation and fight to other survivors struggling with self-doubt in the wake of this high-profile case. This is a thoughtful, nuanced discussion around the themes of voice, compassion, and the ripple effects of denying abuse. 


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