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Hello and welcome back to the Canceled Podcast. I am so excited for today. We have Bunny and Jelly Roll. This is an iconic duo. This is really cool. I think this is only the second time we've ever done one together. Really? Yeah. I told you we don't do them together a lot. He'll come on my podcast, but he's like a podcast host, so he goes on everybody's podcast, so it's not special anymore. Do you get tired of it? No, because I kind of have a rule. I only do it with friends.
Or like people that I'm like super a fan of. So we're kind of doing that, which is why I was waiting till the cameras rolling to give you all y'all's flowers. We're huge fans of the pod. I see all my feet all the time. The biggest thing I want to tell you first was I was telling my wife this story that you posted my song Son of a Sinner like 18 months ago. It is my favorite song. It just came out. It hadn't been out a long time. And all you said was, I don't know what era it is, but I'm glad I'm in this one or something really cool.
And full disclosure, I wasn't fully hip to the Tana train yet. We're still trying to figure out how to pronounce your name. I say Mongeau. Oh, it's Mojo. But you can say whatever the fuck you want. What were you saying last night? Monagie. That's how catchy I am. I was like, babe, it's not Monagie. Because I was all excited. I was like, some girl named Tana Monagie posted my stuff. But the thank you is because people post your stuff and it means a lot. It's always flattering.
But every now and then somebody posted and you feel a wave and you're like, I don't know who the fuck follows this person, but I just got a whole new influx. And I felt that the day you posted that, like so many people showed up on my shit out of nowhere. That's how I heard it for the first time too. That's really cool. I don't know if you know the power you have, but even something that simple, like-
- That is so sweet. - Especially at that point of where that record was in my career, it was an extra little push I needed and I appreciate that. - I listen to it all the time. It's such a fucking great song. - I listened to it on the way here. I was like, "Aww." - It's funny 'cause my ex-boyfriend actually put me onto your music and I had to do a whole thing where I had to listen again. - Which ex, we gotta ask. - And not associate your music with him. - Aw, yes, thank you. - He was like, "You can't ruin 'Jelly Roll' for me." - Yes, thank you. - Wait, which ex was it? - He lives in Vegas. - Okay. - And I dated him a year ago. You guys live in Vegas too. - Yeah, we have a house out in Vegas. - You said your house flooded? - Yeah.
we're at the fucking Grammys and I get this phone call from one of our security that goes and checks our houses out there and fucking he's like, buddy, something really bad is happening right now. And I'm like, what the fuck's going on? And I'm literally like in here and makeup getting ready for the Grammys. He's like, the house is flooding. And I'm like, I'm thinking like, okay, maybe like a room second story down to the fucking kitchen downstairs, the entire kitchen pantry, everything just flooded. Is it unlivable now on that side of
the house yes it's so funny because it's like you think that you know when shit blows up that life is just gonna be like easy different and it's like that is just such a true testament like you're getting ready for the grammys and your house is fucking bloody like yeah and he's like so out of it like he's like i don't care just whatever handle it you know and then so finally i just passed it off to mimi i'm like i can't handle this shit i'm like you just fucking handle it for me completely what made
you guys want to live in Vegas? Well, I grew up in Vegas. I'm from Vegas. So I moved to Vegas when I was five and grew up there from Houston. Oh, okay. So here I am looking like a fake fan, fucking stupid asshole. I didn't know that. I thought you guys, I thought you grew up in Tennessee. No, that's him. Oh, no, I didn't know that. I'm a West Coast girl. Where in Vegas? We drafted her. You know what I'm saying? We drafted her. She's in Tennessee now.
Yeah, I'm playing for the team now. I like that, though. You're wholesome over there. I grew up on the east side. Really? East side, yeah. We literally are twins. Did you grow up on the east side? No, I grew up in Henderson. Oh, okay, okay. But, I mean, still. You were slightly privileged. I was.
I was slumming it with all the in the hood down there with the stage streets that were in the fucking like the names. What is it like the alphabet streets? You know, I've noticed that every city has a neighborhood like that. Yeah. It's something different. Alphabet street in West Nashville. We call it the nations. Yeah. We lived out there. It's like Tennessee drive. Why did we live out there?
It's like all named after states. Why didn't we move to the hood? Kentucky court. So white trash. It's so crazy though. Do you guys think you're going to get a place anywhere else? Or do you like the Nashville and Vegas combo? I,
I love, we're down. I love Austin. Yeah, we're down for whatever. I love Austin. We were just there. I love the culture that Rogan and them have built at the Mothership. It's my favorite bar in America now. It's at Mitzi's, I swear it's the spot. And I was telling her we're heading to Austin this weekend. I think we're spending like six days there. We're going to watch the eclipse out there together. Oh, how cool. So excited. Like the moon? Yeah. Yeah.
I love Tiana. I love Tiana. She's like dumbass. That's cool. The last eclipse we were together. This is our second eclipse together. But they say for relationships to survive eclipses is like profound. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm scared. Dude, I'm so excited for you. What's his name? Makoa. Makoa. You guys are so cute. It's so nice. I feel like I've been saying this all week. You can
Join us. That's the dream. I'm not kidding. Right before you guys got here, I was like going through your whole TikTok and I saw your post about how you guys had broken up in 2018 or whatever. And I'm like, if they can, I'm like, I have all this false hope now about like breakups that I've had. I'm like, that's just not the same thing. You guys have survived everything though. And it's so fucking cool to see. How long have you been together? Almost eight, nine years now.
God, you guys are the couple. We're creeping on a decade by you. I love you guys. But honestly, that's why I'm honest about the hardships that we've had. It's not to bring stuff up or resurface shit. It's to tell people, dude, real relationships take fucking work, dude. Everything's not fucking butterflies and rainbows all the fucking time. That shit takes work. It's grit. You're going to fight. You're going to hate each other. There's some days we wake up and we don't even want to talk to each other. I'm like, that's how our relationship is.
You guys bring out the best in each other. So how did you guys meet? Oh, dude. Old school. Chippin' Wales. At a bar? Chippin' Wales? Chippin' Wales. I thought you were going to do the Chippin' Wales. Oh, yeah. Should I do my Chippin' Wales? Yeah, I think so. I always tell people we met at a male strip club. It was a gentleman's club. Yes. But it was for fat people. Oh, my God. So it was called Chippin' Wales. It was called Chippin' Wales. And we worked in reverse. We came out ass naked. For $50, we're put on a sock. Oh, my God.
$100, I'll put it in a box. That's a really genius business proposal. I love it. I think we need to open a Chippin' Wheels. We'll put stock in it if you guys do it. I'm not fucking kidding. And so, tell me about the first night you met. Tell me. I just want to know. I want to know everything. I was doing a show at a place called the Las Vegas Country Saloon. Have you heard of that old spot? It was like an old second level bar on Fremont. Okay. She was there with her dude at the time. Boo.
We don't even need to give him notoriety at all. Some dude I was banging. It was just an instant connection. Really? Yeah, like instantness. And it was such a connection that I knew somebody that knew them. And after the show, they was like, hey, man, they invited us back to their house. And I was like, I think that could only be trouble for me. You know what I mean? I was like, I don't think that's a...
But that's putting me in a compromising place. And then that guy ended up going to jail or whatever. And she reached out. I have a type. Did you call the cops on him? I have a type. No, but when I met him, it was so weird because I'm not his type. He's not my type. And you always say he's like a Swifty or some shit. He is. And he likes Little Burnettes. He likes Little Burnettes. And he likes Taylor Swift. Fucking. And I'm somewhere in the middle of the spectrum, you know? But it was like, literally, I felt like, and I've said this forever since we met 2016, like our souls are,
really just recognized each other it was like there you are it was like at peace and it was weird I have a video of the first time I met Jay just recording him like a fucking weirdo like I've never done that with anybody ever like I've never I'm way cooler than that you know like I would
just so I can record somebody and be creepy and I did and I have the video and I'm literally next to the dude that I'm with recording him and the dude's looking at me like you know that's literally how I feel with Makoa that's so funny like I remember I was literally recording him like a freak like so funny he you can tell that he brings you such a peace it's so as compared to your other relationships because I've
I don't know a lot of your story. I don't know any of the drama. Despite what anybody thinks, I'm never in the drama, but I'm in the drama somehow. Me. Story of my fucking life. Story of my fucking life. Story of my... I get dragged into everything. I don't understand. I just don't understand it. But I don't know, like, the drama part of you, but I've always kind of followed, like, just you as a person. And, like, you seem, with Makoa, you seem so much more at peace. Yeah, and I've been... Lately, it's like you almost have to, like...
Cause innately you want to fight that. You know what I mean? Like if you, you've always grown up in chaos, like for sure inside of you, you want to fight that. And it's like, I noticed that it's like a battle. I was just saying that to them. Like, I want to go fucking be reckless right now. And it's like, no, it's because you're not used to feeling saboteur. That's in this stuff. We're not used to being happy. You're not used to being happy moment. You think something bad's around the corner. So the little saboteur and you wants to get ahead of it. That's exactly how I feel. That's a trauma trigger. So you're like, you know what, before this goes South, I'm just going to blow it the fuck up. Yeah.
That's exactly how I like, even just with touring and everything being so good for us right now, it's like, I have this feeling that like something horrible is wrong. Yeah. It feels too good to be true. But it's not, it's not real. This is your opportunity and your test that the universe is giving you is to break a generational curse. For sure. Due to the complete opposite of what you normally would do. You know, you just want to. So, so, so true. Yeah.
Like I was, I was posting yesterday talking about how, like, I just went home and had like a wholesome Easter. Like my best friend's family adopted me. And like, I'm so grateful for that. And it's like, it really does feel like I'm breaking generations of fucked up holidays and trauma and shit. And it's like, I don't think you realize how, but sorry to cut you off, but just remember that you deserve to be happy. That's what I was about to say. And that is such a hard concept to wrap your head around. So when you start feeling happy and you've lived a life that's been
so fucked up for so long. And as soon as you start to get happy, you don't, you got to remember that. Like it takes us, we had, it took us forever to just understand that we could just, we deserved each other. The first three years of our relationship were toxic as fuck. Really? Literally fought like cats and dogs. Like we loved each other. We knew the love was there, but we didn't know how to love each other correctly. Yeah. You know? And it was like, we'd never seen an example. Yeah. Like we'd never seen a healthy relationship or affection in a household.
or you know what I mean? Yeah. You grow up around violence and don't see clear affection. You don't know how to show it to each other. So sometimes you show it in the way that you think is the right way and it's fucked up. Yeah. It's fucked up because as humans, we are literally correcting trauma that we didn't cause.
You know, so fucking our entire lives are trying to fix shit that we didn't fucking do to ourselves. Yeah. But that our parents did us because they didn't want to fix their trauma. You know, 100 percent. You got a story, too, though, right? Your mom was pretty. Yeah, she still is. But what you're doing. Look at you. Like both of you guys. I don't think you guys give yourselves enough credit. Like one, you guys are leading a whole generation of girls that have eyes on you. And you guys are setting such amazing examples for these girls to look up to. Thank you. I don't feel like it all the time. No.
I was on the podcast yesterday talking about how conjoined twins have sex and shit. And I was like, Tana, stop. No, but I want to know. But that's the kind of shit people talk about at their kitchen table anyway. That's why y'all are so relatable. No, but I want to know how they have sex. Like, who's looking at who? Did y'all figure it out? Did you give it a goop?
Dude. They helped us out. I made a TikTok about it because one of the famous ones, the famous set. The ones who just got married. Yeah. And so I stitched it on TikTok and I was like, someone just take it for the team. Take one for the team. Just let us know. And then 24 hours later, they tweeted. I think I did this. Okay. I,
I know you did. I'm not a narcissist. It means like, no, I did this. No, I didn't. But they tweeted all about their, yeah, like apparently the other one just like listens to podcasts. Get the fuck out of here. It's books. No way. But they like both experienced the pleasure at the same time. So it's like literally like what she said, like what if you're reading a book and all of a sudden you're having an orgasm? Like, yeah, she's just busting in a low key. Why not just join in? I know that's the thing. At what,
- At some point is it just a throuple? Like it has to have some element of that. - But then what if the other one wanted to get in a relationship, then what happens? - Why is nobody talking about the dude? - Yeah, well that's what we're concerned about his intentions a little. - Right, like what are you into? What's really going on? - For sure. Then we have this whole breakdown of like we were conjoined twins. - It's one. - That would be hot. - Yeah, that would be hot. But like two lungs and shit. - Four lungs. - Oh, we got four lungs.
And like, what if the marriage, she's like, oh my God, let's do anal. And the other one's like, yo, like, no. That is hilarious. I can't like, I can't wrap my fucking head around it. I need details. We need to invite them on the podcast.
Can I be here whenever they're here? Yes, please. I'm not even kidding. So many questions. It's funny because I was just about to segue back to some normal shit, but it just doesn't feel right. We're talking about all those things yesterday and we're like, yeah, maybe we aren't setting a very good example now, but I
I mean, you guys still have to have fun. Just because you guys aren't role models for little girls doesn't mean that you guys aren't human. And that doesn't mean that we all have a fucking dark sense of humor and are morbid, you know, like want to know weird shit. I think that's it, though. That's always kind of been my thing is it's like, listen, I'm not here to be your like Betsy Ross. Absolutely. You know, be yourself. If you want the girl next door, go next door. Yeah.
I don't say that enough. Yeah. That's a good catchphrase. I think I stole it from somebody. I think it was on a meme. Literally, like seriously, like you guys are role models in your own way. And I think that's what makes you guys perfect to
to four little girls and like teenage girls and girls in their 20s who are growing up and you know you guys are raising a fucking generation so are the both of you in like so many ways and all the things that you talk about I didn't know that you didn't drink no and you don't drink no she did and that I did yeah and that was a good time I mean she drank
I'm in an era right now where I'm not drinking and it is, it's such a battle for me. How long? I'm two months sober right now. Almost like a hundred days, I think. And I've done a lot of stints like that, but I, I can't get to the point where I really want to accept that I like
shouldn't drink forever. Why can't you drink for forever? Do you have a problem where you binge? I think, yeah, I think I'm very much all or nothing. Yeah. And like, I just want to go crazy balls to the wall. And it's like, I just wish I could take like a blue pill that gives me moderation because I just don't have as much fun. No, I get it. And it's hard. Yeah. No, I'm a binge drinker too. Yeah. So I just, um, I think the last time I drank, I got drugged. I'm not 100% positive, but I mean, I was on all fours in our bed.
fucking puking. I mean, how attractive is that naked? I mean, just butthole in the air, barfing in front of this guy. I thought it was hot. No, you didn't. This dude was so worried about me. Okay? Like literally, he slept on the floor while I slept on the couch because he was afraid I was going to stop breathing. You know? Oh my God.
on. I just woke up and I had already started my spiritual journey. I had stopped doing like blowing pills the year before and I just didn't want to be like my parents. My dad was an alcoholic. My mom was a fucking drug addict, you know, and you just get to a point I think in your life where you're like does this benefit me? Yeah. What am I getting from this? You know, that's exactly how I feel. I and I think in every way it doesn't I just struggle with being able to have as much fun as I feel like I used to have.
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So it's taken me a really long time. I went to the bar last night for the first time, Rainbow, with him. I love Rainbow. I had a fucking blast sober. You kind of have to learn how to be human again without substances. I took fucking Xanax for so long. And let me tell you, I was Xana Nicole. All right.
right? Oh my God, that's so funny. I used to always say that. Dude, really? I love that. Or Zanny Bonaduce. Yes. I can just be Zanna. Zanna. Oh my God, I'm going to use that if I ever do Xanax again. But yeah, literally, I swear to God, I would fucking take a Xanax and I couldn't do anything without having something in my system, you know? And you have to,
really get to know yourself again and it's a lot of shadow work and it takes time dude yeah I've been sober since 2018 off everything and it's a battle you know you're gonna it's just something you're always gonna have to fight but you gotta always know that you're doing it for the right reasons you know she also is like her approach and everybody's different is she doesn't take it like an abstinent model so she doesn't look at it like she can't drink right yeah even last night she was like if I didn't have that pod tomorrow I might actually have a drink with you tonight you
Yeah. Really? She gives herself that space. She's never done it, but she at least allows herself to think she can. And I think it makes her feel more in control of it. I honestly, even dieting and stuff, I have that same mindset where it's like, if I feel like I can't have something, I end up just going crazy and eating everything. Whereas if I'm like, I could, but I won't. Yeah.
yeah because we're fucking we're rep we're rebellious by nature so you tell us we can't do something what are we gonna do we're gonna fucking do it and we're gonna do it great yeah you just have to kind of like have that in the back of your brain like i can drink but i'm just choosing not to because i want to be in a better place it's so true that's actually such a like awesome mindset i'm just yeah i'm still in a place where i'm using like alcohol so much as an aid and i know that's horrible but like a social aid and just like like
for touring and stuff especially i can't do it sober she amazes me she can like yeah go out there and have her full personality i am petrified what do you think about touring and drinking depends on the pace y'all tour pretty heavy on the weekends right y'all doing like three a days like three three shows a weekend right more we're doing two shows a night usually yeah yeah we're doing three or four days right yeah we did like we were doing five day runs yeah one
My thing is, just remember, there's an old country phrase that says, what don't get you in the wash will get you in the rinse. Right? So just remember, while you're young, enjoy it. Yeah. But it's going to catch up. Yeah, I get afraid of that. Just stay hydrated, sleep.
Yeah. The good thing is y'all aren't singing. If you were singing, I'd have a totally different advice. Yeah. Because you work that vocal cord so much. I wouldn't want you to lose your voice. Yeah. That would be my fear. You know what I mean? Is that y'all sauce too much and dehydrate your voice down and get into show number eight of the weekend. Y'all are up there fucking sounding like y'all just left a football game. You know what I mean? Yeah. Right. How old are you guys? I'm 25. I'm 27. Yeah. You guys have a little bit of ways to go. I'm telling you. I feel 80 though. No, I get that. I feel like,
Well, no, actually, daddy's going through it, too. So I'm older than God. I love you guys. I'm older than him. So I kind of went on my started going on my spiritual journey in my late 30s. And I was just like, you know, I wanted to change everything about my life. And he didn't understand it because he was still doing his thug fizzle, you know. And he was just like, come on, bitch, drink with me. And I'm like, no, you know, like, but now he's almost 40 and he's like, oh,
I'm probably as sober as I'm ever going to be right now. Yeah. Really? Yeah. As far as like from... You get to a point. Yeah. Because I probably drink... I mean, I used to... Man.
When we first met, I drank probably 300 some days a year. I probably drink 10, 12 a year now. Really? Only celebrations. Like last night, I was just like, I just never would have dreamed I was going to win the Best New Pop Artist. You won Best New Pop Artist last night? I won Best New Pop Artist. I didn't know that. That is so amazing. Congratulations. I won both. I won Best New Country and Best New Pop. And I'm the first time that's happened. It's just a really big deal. And I left like
I'm going to the fucking rainbow room. You know what I mean? Absolutely. You deserved it. This is one of those celebratory kind of things. Yes, congratulations. And he always ends up in a fucking fountain. Oh my God, really? I haven't posted that clip yet, but yeah. He's in there with his eyes open.
words just swimming around in the fountain. That's incredible though. If I was a guy, I would do that. It's like I they could easily do that. I feel like the witch of the West. I'd be like, I'm melting. But I was just saying like when you get to a certain age and I don't mean to throw the age card out there. You want something different and you
something inside of you clicks and you want to change your life. And I think that's, you guys have plenty of time. You guys are still really young. Yeah. Have fucking fun, but be responsible about it. As long as your relationship with alcohol is okay. Yeah. Don't be so hard on yourself. I was just thinking to myself like that really is where I would love to be where it's like when I could celebrate. Like, you know what I mean? I have a really like,
I don't really have an issue with it at all. I have like a few drinks a night and I never really take it too far. You're just taking the edge off. She's golden. She has to like drag me out by my hair. I'm like naked and fucking being crazy or some shit. Wait, what happened with the fucking, the person who ran up on stage and Brooke's just chilling and Tana fucking takes off? I don't know if I, I have like no survival instincts. I think I just haven't.
I'm not kidding because she ran for the hill. She left me for dead. Can we show him this clip? Yeah, a girl stormed the stage. Actually, we had a few stage stormers. We've had a few stage stormers. Do you guys have security? Yeah, and one of them was playing Call of Duty on his iPad. Like during the fire in New Orleans. It wasn't my personal security. It was venue security. Now we've gotten to a point where it's like,
Because we were touring at a much smaller scale. And I think that this time, like anything bad that happened was a learning curve for us. Yeah. We didn't understand what this one was going to be like, I don't think. And we were like, what the fuck is this? This girl was in my lap before anyone even got to her. And Brooke, you were so calm. I thought she was just like. I thought she had to. Yeah. She's just walking up. Yeah. And then Tanner runs off. Babe, look at this. Watch. Brooke is sitting on me. Hold it.
She sprinted. And it wasn't that I was trying to leave you, I swear to God. I wouldn't have wanted you to come back for me. Two friends with trauma with two different reactions. So many people were like psychoanalyzing it, like fight or flight. Or freeze. Yeah, fight, flight, or freeze. But I'm like, God, I would have been dead on the street.
Oh my God. I know. I couldn't believe that. I would never want anything to happen to you. What are your fans like, like on tour? Like, like do you have any crazy experiences? Like how are they crazy? Like we've always just had, like, I call it the mighty 300, man. I didn't get here by having like the biggest fan base. I got here by having the fucking loudest. That's I feel the exact same way. I want y'all to come to a show, man. It's like church. It's so different. Yeah. Tour. I think we have one in LA. I'll let you guys know. Love.
Oh, wow. Yeah, it's a big deal. I'm super excited. But yeah, you'll see it. It's like church. So it's really more of like a spiritual experience. Everything you do to me is like spiritual. Like I've watched that speech you did.
like maybe a thousand times the fentanyl. Yeah. It's the best thing you ever did. That was like, made me absolutely sob. I love what you do with your platform in reference to addiction because I think I'm so passionate about it too. You made me really want to do more. Like I've just lost a lot of people to, you know, things like that. And it's,
It's so true. People don't talk about it enough. How did you get into that? Like what did you, you definitely didn't just wake up one day at the Supreme court. You know, it's even, I didn't know what we were really doing. Okay. So they called and a CAA called and they're political people. They like CAA has a political department and they called him. It's like, I seen, I was like, this is weird. And they were like, would you be willing to go address Senate for a bipartisan agreement about offending off fentanyl? I don't think I've talked about this. This is kind of cool, but.
I looked at it. I didn't even, I didn't read the bill until we were already on the way. Right. Because in my mind, I didn't give a fuck about the bill. I thought about it. Like,
somebody needs to go tell these people what's happening in America because I'd like to think they don't know. Yeah. Cause there's no way they could know that 200 people are dying a day in this country from this. And they're sitting up here, not fucking talking about it. So I kind of went there on some, to a degree, a little bit of confrontational shit. Yeah. Just on some like, yo, I'm kind of here to let y'all know. I'm the guy to be here to be like, yo, in case y'all are fucking missing it. Cause you know what I mean? Look at that big crow mama.
I know. One landed whenever we parked. My wife loves crows. Really? I call myself the crow mother. Every time I pop up, they pop up, dude. Really? That's cool as fuck. You need a little crow tattoo for her. That's her fucking, she loves crow. I'm petrified. I love ugly animals that people don't like. I do too. I get that completely. That bled over into your other satellite. This is my pound puppy. I call him my pound
puppy no my god you two killers yeah but they called and it was an opportunity i didn't want to miss it yeah i don't want to miss it do you think you'll do more yeah oh yeah for sure man i'm i um we do a lot of stuff in our city anyways for like a lot of rehabs our philanthropic stuff is like millions of dollars a year i built a music program in the juvenile i was incarcerated in as a youth that is so cool we're looking we're building a detox center
We're looking to build group homes. Congratulations. I would love to, if you ever need anyone to be a part of that, I would love to. You know, you were saying you felt called to action when we're on the road. Um, we play. So when I tour, I do four or five shows a week, kind of the way I tour rock and roll style. My deal is if I do five shows, I do three days where we stop and go speak at a rehab or a jail. So over the course of this, yeah, it's super awesome. And we built so many relationships with like women's centers and when
women's rehab dude if y'all was fucking somewhere and y'all wanted to stop in and say hi they'd lose their shit I would fucking love to we I'm gonna actually like reach out to like I would love to do that that would like be the best it's such a good feeling to give back and I feel like it just it makes sense for us I feel like yeah I think that it's also like
When you come from the walks of life that we have and you start to receive good, I don't want to call it guilt, but like you, you start to feel like I, you know what I mean? Like I have to go help. Like, it's like, you know what I mean? Like I just, you know what it is. You, I tell people this, I do it because I know how it feels. Yeah. Yeah.
Like I know what it's like to be in the darkest moment of your life, trying to change your life alone. Yeah. And that's what's happening in rehab and jail right now. Yeah. And I don't want to sound like super hyper spiritual, but I'm obviously a man of faith. Yeah. But I kind of grew up old school Christian in the way of like, you show your faith. You don't talk about your faith. Yeah. Like I cuss, I drink, I fuck off. But at the end of the day, I try to do what I thought Jesus would do. Yeah. Jesus fucking hung out with whores.
Jesus fucking, you know what I mean? Straight up. I'm like, sorry. I'm like, here we go. No, I love it. I love it. The pastor's on TikTok. We're about to get wild. There he goes. And he's canceled again. No, I know. We are all canceled. This is canceled. I get canceled by the church every time I talk about this. All the time. Every time we talk about this. That's so sad. How is that even possible? You can't cancel someone because his preacher's name is Hughes. To something I don't even go to. I think so many more people who need it are going to fucking listen to people like us. Mm-hmm.
then you know what i mean people coming from a place where they said love your neighbor feed the homeless and visit people in jail he had like really it was like the most simple rules ever yeah he just said the most simple stuff that was just so real so like to me that's just kind of how we live yeah we go visit jails we go to rehab i fucking absolutely love that take care of the elderly just do the fucking good person shit you also get to a point where you've made you know
something of yourself and you have money to give back and it gets to a point where it's like what do i do do i fucking hoard all this shit or do i yeah it feels gross give it back to the universe yeah you know so it's like you just want us you just want to give how do you feel about having money anyway does it not feel a little gross just in general it it feels mind-blowing i mean first of all i think that i like will always have a big imposter syndrome towards everything that happens where i'm like
how the fuck did this happen? You know what I mean? And 100%, I think that even just on less of a giving back level, I very much am like that with like my friends and everyone around me. Like if I'm eating, I want everyone else to eat too. Cause what the fuck I'm going to sit here and have all this. That's no fun. That's like, you know what I mean? Like she's amazing about that too. She's put everybody on, you know what I mean? Like all of us came from her, you know what I mean? But I mean, you deserve everything.
Well, I don't think that, but like, that's what we've done too. Yeah. Giving heart and a giving spirit. I love everything that you post about his daughter and who's now your daughter. Like, you know, I cry frequently because it's like, obviously I was texting you about this the other day. It's like, I feel like we might've wished we had that. Hmm.
growing up so to get to do that is probably the most fulfilling thing in the world oh yeah it's like i just thought what you did for her with her birthday shoot recently like was so fucking cute i don't know if you saw that but it was um their daughter's birthday and she just like did this whole photo shoot for her like got her glam on it like had me in tears i was like no it must be so amazing for you to see that too because when you had her
Like this, I don't know if you pictured this. No, no. This hooker coming in and taking over. You are me. I thank God because if I didn't have Bunnyman, that poor kid would be running around in sweatpants and hoodies. She dressed like me. You know what I mean? I'd be that dad that just wouldn't know what to do. So I'd be like, here's some Jordans and some jeans and a hoodie. You know what I'm saying?
running around a Tennessee volunteer shit. Yeah. It's been such a saving grace and their relationship has been so special because I've got to watch it really blossom. And I had to watch them, but each other's heads a little bit, figure out who each other were and kind of, you know, kind of get through some real, real stuff together. And it's helped me as a single father, because I hate that word because I have money because I don't have to get involved in none of the
woman stuff yeah you know what i mean i'm always fucking out of that dude so come to me and i'll be like why are you even coming to me about this this is totally sometimes i do it just a weird amount i'm like hey you want to know what the kid's doing it's so hard though i grew up like basically with only my grandpa and i'm like oh my gosh like when i started my period and stuff i'm like
- Yeah. - And he probably tried the best he could. - Oh, he was traumatized. But luckily, it was like right at the time because-- - Traumatized. - No, oh my God, he had no idea what to do with me at all. I'm like, "I'm depressed." He's like, "Okay." - He's like, "Here's a shot of bourbon, honey." - Right. - But I had like, so my grandma has dementia and she like, but she, it was kind of like slowly onset. So she was like just slowly starting to get like a little strange.
And she had bought me like all the things like tampons, pads, everything beforehand. So it was already at my house. Thank God. She's cool. Yeah, she's talked me up. That's real. I love that. That is great. How old is your daughter now? How old is she? We're about to celebrate her sweet 16th.
So we've been planning. That's what the photo shoot was for. It was for her sweet 16. So she's really excited about it. What a fun age. To be 16 again, does it scare you at all? Like boys? Like what is that? What is that like too? And it's like jelly rolls your dad. I'd be terrified of you as like if I like came home. He's fun, dad. He's fun. Everybody's scared of me. I'm scared of Bunny. I walk that house, dinner. Yeah.
Even if Tana came, she said, where's your wife? I said, Hefe's in the truck. Stop, I love that. No, she's about to be 16. And it's been a journey. People don't realize how hard it is to come into a family and to try to take on a mother role, which I never have tried to take on the mother role. For one, I've always been like, I'm just Bunny. And...
You know, I'm here for you if you need me. I don't ever try to like force anything on her because I had a crazy stepmom who fucking always tried to force shit on me. Really? And it was just so uncomfortable. Yeah. So I've tried to kind of like redo everything that she that my stepmom did to me. And I think the sweetest thing is that she called me today and she was like, mommy. And I was like, oh, like literally like I got like this lump in my throat and I'm like, but I can't show it to her, you know? So I'm just like, what?
just holding it in and she's like look at my prom dress and I'm just like oh my god that was so it makes me want to tear up now I never thought I'd be such a fucking pussy for somebody no but I love it literally pussy describing like literally literally I can't I feel like I'm looking into
You're my daughter. Every time I post something, I thought this was Tana. I thought this was Tana. I think that's what drew me to you. I'm like, that's just my type of person. Absolutely. It's so great. It's funny because at one point I was in a relationship with a guy who had a bunch of face tattoos. Same cross situation, whole thing, and everyone would call us Bunny and Jelly Rucks. Bunny and Jelly Rucks.
Except he's killing it. It's so nice to you. I think I know which one we're talking about. We won't mention names. That's the one. I love that I'm genuinely lost. Yeah, he has no idea.
I love that you were willing to come on because I know that it's not like he's watching. We keep up with the girl stuff, but I know you're not just tuning in to the cancel. Y'all's clips come on my FYP a lot though. Really? That's so crazy. I can't imagine Jelly Rolls for you having anything to do with us. And it's funny. Y'all are fucking hilarious. He pays attention to pop culture and you guys are pop culture. I'm in it, Tana. Y'all's fans. I can name three or four times that somebody posted me that you feel
like it hits like new people are in your comments there's a new wave my heart the day you posted that record i didn't know who you were i ran upstairs all excited oh my god i was like yo tanamoniki my wife's like that's not how you say it i don't think that's how you say her last name we really were saying yesterday because it's like
it's the name of the podcast first of all just being cancelled I think automatically steers away 70% of anyone in mainstream media that's gonna come on so it like means so fucking like you're winning iHeartRadio awards last night and you're coming on it means so much we support the underdogs and you're not an underdog anymore but we support you know the people that I just appreciate it so much have to struggle how does it do you how did you feel like at the Grammys like how do you feel like winning all of these awards and being in the mainstream I saw a TikTok
the other day that was people conspiring if you are in the Illuminati now. I was like, there's no fucking way. I'm fucking tired of this shit. I want to be in the Illuminati. He thinks it's hilarious. I get mad because I'm like, he has worked his ass off for almost 20 fucking years. He didn't just pop up on the scene. People are like, he shot to fame so fast. And it's like, no, dude. He's been really planting these seeds for fucking 20 years. When I partnered with a record label in 2010,
21, 22. My YouTube channel is already at 1.6 or 7 billion views. We were already selling out 5,000 seat theaters everywhere in America almost. You know what I mean? So it wasn't like
It was just such an underground cult thing, which is why I relate to what y'all do though. When you talked about your fans being that way, y'all seen this, right? A lot of people, a lot of people had a little hit podcast. They went out toward it one time in comedy clubs and couldn't go back again because it was a novelty. It was, I seen her. I just, I just wanted to see the person. It wasn't, they want to be entertained by the person. They just wanted to say, okay, I went, I seen that person. I checked the list. Why would I go see him again? And y'all built an entire touring business. Yeah. It's just hard to do. So cool to watch. It is like,
so different and I related to it on the music end. Cause that's what we did. Yeah. We built an old school, hard ticket touring business. You know what I mean? So by the time this shit popped, but I wasn't even, I just, this is what I think about the Illuminati one, six years ago, I'd have said, fuck you. I wouldn't hesitate. Yeah. You know what I mean? It was like, no brainer, but I know this might sound cliche, but I think that people understand that you don't just make deals with
with the devil. I had to deal with the highest authority. And I said, if you ever give us this opportunity, we'll share our platform and make sure that your name is spoken.
You know what I mean? Like, how can you say I'm Illuminati? I'm the only person at the iHeartRadio Awards last night that said Jesus on stage. That's crazy. I'm the only artist at the CMT Country Awards last year that said the name God. I'm the only artist at the CMA Awards last year that said thank God. I'm the only artist that said, and country music, by the way. Yeah, that's fine. Where Jesus is still socially accepted. You know what I mean? It's like, that's why I laugh at it.
I love my wife though. She's my greatest defender. Yeah. People say shit about me and I get tickled. I'm like, I think it's so funny. She's already distal on TikTok. Yeah.
you can say what you want about me don't talk about daddy i'm going upstairs excited like did you see where such and such said something he's like yeah i ripped him a new asshole i'm all like oh that's fucking gold i was like we should be mad you guys are my fucking relationship goals until the day i die i'm just so protective of him and his heart because he is such a special human dude like he's
I always tell everybody he's an earth angel. I've said it a million times and we don't deserve him. Like he really is. What you see is what you get with him and it's not a fucking show. You know, like he really is. You're going to make me cry and I'm hungover. Come on. Don't start the crying shit. Salty tequila tears. Salty tequila tears.
No, but it's real. And so that's why when anybody comes for him, like the whole Illuminati thing started from a video that he didn't release from a song that he did with fucking Coe Wetzel. Yeah. What is it? Cocaine song that he never released. And the reason why he won't release it is because why, baby? I don't want people to.
feel like I'm promoting cocaine use. Yeah, it's fair. It's like a responsibility I have now where I feel really connected. My music has helped so many people get off cocaine that I feel like I would be doing them an injustice to come back and write a song that promoted it. Even though when I wrote the song, I was in my cocaine era. It was super honest and I
I keep, everybody tries to tell all those. I have a ton of records like that from that era that I want to drop. And maybe one day I'll do like a side project, like a theme project, but I just never wanted to promote that.
So that's why I get so irate because they took a picture that Haley had done the makeup on and was like, he's in the fucking black eye club. And I'm like, no, actually. And he's not putting out the, there's no video that he really shot. And I'm like, no, actually he's not putting it out for fucking reasons because he's a good fucking human. Yeah. You know, but I can't keep, my wife loves this song by the
She's asked me to put it out once a month. She's like, you should put it out. I need it. I really do. I keep seeing all the black guy stuff. Is it just the other girl that was yesterday? I never knew what it was. It also has to do with sexual predators and shit like that too, which is another reason why I get offended. Because I'm like...
Yeah, what? What is it? I don't know. I saw someone saying, because Dixie D'Amelio has one. They're like, oh, there she goes. She's got a fucking shiner. She said she fell into a door. I don't know what happened to her. It's horrible, but I'm like, I didn't know what it was. And I started reading the comments and everyone's like, yeah, when you have a black eye, I guess. Yeah, don't ever get work done. I got work done and they were like...
Bunny joined the black eye club too after my nose job. Yeah. Two black eyes. Oh, those will resurface later on. They'll say you got in the Illuminati in Albania. I hope so. I felt like, to me, that was kind of like the sign of success. I was just going to say that. I'm like, no one
one's accusing me of being a little naughty. They will now, Brooke. They will now. Maybe soon. It's fucking so wild, though. It is. I mean, I just I really appreciate everything that you just said. And I love you are just so on the side of God. So it is crazy to me that people are
You know what I mean? And I'm so honest about it. I guess I thought I would miss the Illuminati talk just because of the fucking cross on my face alone, maybe. You know what I'm saying? Maybe they thought you were trying to throw them off. That's what they say. I'm like, you guys will fucking come back.
Have you had any, and you don't have to share this. It's just my favorite fucking question. You can tell me to shut the fuck up immediately. But have you met any celebrities that in this, because obviously right now it's like all the mainstream stuff. You know what I mean? Have you met any celebrities that you feel like,
Either A, you just had a bad interaction with, or B, like they were giving Illuminati your dark side. I genuinely don't think there's a fucking Illuminati. I don't, I was going to say, do you guys believe in the Illuminati? And I'm a conspiracy theorist. Yeah. I fucking believed all that shit before we got into this whole industry. Yeah. You know, like I don't believe it. Nobody trying to touch my butt. You know what I'm saying? That's what I thought as well.
Maybe I'm not their type. You know what I'm saying? I will tell this story and I'll probably get in trouble for it. And it's not, not harping on it because it's a hot topic, but I did Kimmel. Okay. The day Diddy did Kimmel. Did you? Oh yeah, that's right. And it's the first time, this is, this is the first time in my career where ever, where they said, do you want to meet such and such? And I said, yeah. And I started walking that way. And as I was getting down the hallway, this is a true story. I said, nah, no,
Better not. And went and got back in the car. Really? Swear. I don't know what it was. And I made a joke at first. I was like, who don't want to meet the guy that got Tupac killed? And nobody thought that was funny. So I was like, oh, that's a bomb. Maybe I shouldn't go do this anyway. So I was already skeptical because I thought I had a funny one.
And they were like, I probably wouldn't say that. You know what I mean? Yeah. And we were walking. I was just like, I don't know. It is just like very seldom does things rub me in a way where I was like, I don't even know if that's a picture I want. To have. Yeah. To exist. Yeah. Because I've been in situations where, and I won't say this, this stuff where I've like ended up in pictures with people I didn't want to be with. Just like, just because, you know, motherfuckers will walk a carpet around the same time. Yeah. And they'll be like, let's get a photo. They'll be like, hey, y'all get together. And you're like, yo, I don't really even.
know who this human is kind of, you know what I'm saying? So like she said, I've never really felt like the Illuminati thing or the, and I've negotiated big deals and stuff. So, I mean, I've been around it cause I, I came in because I came in independent, uh,
We still own our masters. Yeah, that's amazing. So we still own all of our publishing. We own the lion's share of our streaming revenue. He's rewriting history for independent artists. Which I fucking love to see. That's right. I used to love, like, even like Chance the Rapper. Yes. Like people who like. Yeah. I love to see that so much. Even Macklemore. Just anytime I see somebody. We're taking a. Have y'all heard of Alexander Kay? Mm.
You got to check her out. She's a country artist. She is so awesome. And me and my wife were picking our tour people. We took this guy named Warren Zyders who y'all love. Haley's trying to bang him. Yeah, Haley just loves some Warren Zyders. Warren, she's coming for you. She's already pre-shooting her shot before tour starts.
But and we took this girl named Alexandra K because she's independent. Yeah. And she's selling like a thousand tickets by herself. Which y'all know this is Indies. That's fucking a lot of tickets to sell, dude. That's a real business. Yeah, it is. And because she's doing an independent me and my it was the only one we totally agreed on together. We were like, yo, her take the independent girl. Yeah. Just because like I want to do anything I can to get because I remember how dude, I never got a good look when I was an independent.
Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like, try to get as many of those things. Cause I think hit the music business is fixing to rewrite itself. I don't say this to sound cocky, but that deal that Meg the stallion announced, it was like,
the groundbreaking deal y'all remember when they announced this big partnership with her and warner brothers recently oh yes okay i signed that same deal four years ago you know what i mean like it's like i just didn't make a headline about it yes you know which i'm glad she did because it shows people that it can be done and that's what i want artists to see i think artists should own art yeah i don't think anybody should ever own the fucking canceled podcast but y'all
Ever. I love that. Under any circumstance, whether ABC calls you or not, y'all built this, you did this. We had a situation before this season where we had to get out of some murky water and we realized what we wanted to do.
do and i fully fully fucking agree it's it's just the feeling is so much better knowing that you own your stuff like the fact that taylor ever had to do taylor's version and stuff like that like the fact that that's like it really is so crazy she's a boss though for how she handled that yeah she handled it with grace but the other side of it is the sadder part is why her label wouldn't sell her her masters yeah why that's the well like the scooter i don't know why but that's the question is like why would you not
You sold them anyway. Yeah. She offered market money. Yeah. It's not like she tried to get it cheap. She said, what's the market? Yeah. Okay. That's what market's willing to pay. I'll pay it. Like it just, it becomes so spiteful and vindictive. It seems malicious. And you're playing with my soul.
Like, I don't, I like, dude, I'll get emotional. Like I write my soul in these songs. Like I, every dark thought I've ever had, every bad experience I've ever seen, every person that's ever cried on my arms at a show because they lost somebody they loved to drug addiction. I'm writing, this is like, and I'm sure that's how Taylor feels. That's how I feel about these words. You know what I mean? It's like, I feel like my wife, her podcast is her legacy that my, our daughter's daughter will get to find out how great of a human she was.
because of 10 years of the dumb blonde episodes. That made me want to cry. That actually made me almost cry. That's so beautiful. And it's so true. This is y'all's legacy. And the cool thing is y'all are even cooler because y'all got to do it so young. Y'all will move on to have families. The whole world will watch and grow with y'all. And y'all will be able to go back and archive
you remember that time that fucking Tana left Brooke to get killed on stage it's funny people ask all the time if I journal or like have a diary or whatever and I'm like we record literally every single week like what happened this week this is what like is going on in our lives and it's so cool because we're going to be able to watch that back in like 10 years time be like oh my god you remember that guy like 100% I think that I my frontal lobe had to have just fully developed
because I just started looking at this shit like that. Like I used to just be like, oh, silly little podcast. Who cares? Like or freak out about my digital footprint. But like over time, I think it's it's really fucking cool. You have created a legacy just even before the podcast. I mean, your name is a brand. So yeah, no, but it's real. And you got it. You need to realize how special you are. I really relate to you on so many things in the regard of saying like,
I could go sell all these tickets, but never was getting the mainstream recognition. And for so long, I think I put way too much worth into that. Like, it's like, this is the first time in my life I've been signed to an agency or mainstream people care about what we're doing and whatever. And it like, now it's like, I'm like, fuck that. Like I've been doing it for all these years. I can finally like understand that. But for so long, it's like, I was so shunned by like 80% of the other influencers or 80% of the industry or whatever that it like,
fucked with your head a little bit. And I look back and it's like, you were fucking 17 making a life for yourself and like, you should be able to recognize that, you know? Every single person who comes to the meet and greet, like they're crying, like saying she raised them. Literally. It's so cool to see too because I'm like newer to it too. I like-
I didn't even get to see a lot of that. So it's like special for me to see them. And they're like, I've been watching you for 10 years. I'm like, yeah, like, wow. No, and I mean, you are mainstream now. That's the cool part is like, to me, this podcast is a mainstream podcast. Like what I know. I might say it one more time for the people. I don't want to get in trouble for this. So I'll try not to say it fucked up.
I would pick this podcast over 75% of television programming. Yeah. Like if I'm on an album cycle, like if I'm on an album cycle, this is one of those things that was in my calendar because the wife put it in there. And even my publicist was like, good luck. Hmm.
And she hates when I do podcasts because I always say shit that gets me in trouble. That's fucking awesome, though. Like, that means the world to us and I just appreciate it so motherfucking much. We just want to give you guys your flowers, man, because you guys deserve it. We talked about that last night. We were like, we really just came to give y'all flowers. We were like, we feel like nobody praises y'all enough to y'all really own what y'all want. You guys are really working your asses off. And you're doing it together, man, because there's another famous quote my cousin says all the time. Life's not about what you do, it's who you do it with. Who you do it with.
And y'all are getting to do it with your friends and all boats are floating. It is. Same with y'all. It's like, it is so nice to, it's funny. I was sitting here with her talking and I was like, it's like we have a trauma bond, but just without the trauma, I was like, that's literally just a bond. It's just having someone to share it with. Yeah.
I was like, this is crazy. I know that's the thing. For some reason, we have to associate like trauma with it somehow. I love it that we're all so unhealthy. It was like, we have a trauma bond without trauma. And then you were like, it's just, we can be bonded like normal people. It felt so crazy to me. And I love that you guys have that. And it's, yeah.
It is interesting now getting all the recognition, even just from other influencers and stuff. I'm like, you fucking hated me until... You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you feel that way ever? Like with these celebrities or people where it's like, oh, now you want to... No. Now you want to... I get that a lot with the podcast now. Yeah. Yeah, she does. And I'm the opposite. I'm just so fucking...
I think that I look at the message I'm trying to bring and anybody who's willing to get behind it in any way is helping what I know is for the greater cause. So I'm just like,
If you fucked me, I don't care. Yeah, it doesn't matter how you got here. I'm glad you're here now. Yeah, it's like, I'm glad you're here now. And it's still, I still, talking about the Grammys, I still feel like the fish out of water a little bit. Really? Tell me more about that. We're obviously a couple of yellow ducks in a white duck pond. You know what I mean? It's fucking, we don't got a quack or flap for people to recognize us. And we're standing in the back and I'm looking around and it was the coolest thing where the way they, we were at the Grammys, but for the safety of being honest,
Barely. I mean, the table behind us was general admission. We were as far as you could go. It's funny because every time I saw you on the screen, I was screaming. That's all I wanted to see. It feels like it's for the people. Like seeing you guys at the Grammys, I'm like, fuck yes. You know what I mean? I'm like, yeah.
I need that clip. That's how I feel. Listen, have you ever seen a movie called Cinderella Man? No. Yes. I thought about, yes. The boxing movie, right? Yes. I thought about naming my album this, but not enough people got the reference. But it's this old retired boxer in the Great Depression that goes back for a title run because he can't afford to feed his family. There's a moment where it's so the saddest scene I've ever seen in a movie where they're eating an imaginary sandwich because they couldn't afford any food that night.
And this father's like coaching him through. It's like such a, just a dramatic scene. And he goes and ends up winning a title at like 40 something years old. It was like,
biggest underdog in boxing history to win a title. And there's a moment in the movie where he's running through and all these like layman's layman workers are like cheering for him. He's like, he looks at his manager because he's so confused. He goes, why are they cheering for me? He goes, because you're fighting for them. Wow. You have to see it's such a special movie. It's a really good movie. He made me watch it the other night. I'm going to watch it. I mean, I literally get teary eyed saying that line because it's like,
That's who we are. We're fighting for them. You know what I mean? Like, so when you see that, I'm like, that's how I feel when I'm there. I'm looking around like, yo, I'm here. Me and my wife are here representing an entire group of people that have never been properly represented at critical mass.
right on the biggest platform of the whole world and they're cutting cameras to me after the biggest celebrities on earth and they know that i'm here on some fucking wild shit you know what i'm saying that is so awesome i thought it was so funny because after the grammys we were made into a gif and i was like is that how you pronounce it a gif i thought it was a gif oh yeah i think but i also thought she was monogamous and i was like babe we're finally a gif like i was so happy about it i was like we made it
- Stop. - After the Grammys, it was so funny. - I really like the way I feel seeing the two of you anywhere and just succeeding in representing is, I don't think I've ever felt it about any other duo, any other celebrities, any like, I don't know. I almost just cried listening to you. - 'Cause it's special to see people that you relate to. I feel like that's what made me gravitate toward you also is like, I don't wanna see, I mean, of course I wanna see everybody be successful, but I wanna see people who deserve it be successful. - How did you guys meet?
We don't know. At a bar. Honestly, at a Chip and Wales. Yeah. I love that place. I love that place. I swear to God, it's like, to be fair, I was on the Zannies and I was in a dark place. We just like basically just ended up together all the time. Yeah, one day she was just there and I don't remember. I love that. And I...
It was just special to me. One day she was just there and I swear it was like, even with this podcast, I, I thought about everyone in my life and who I wanted to do it with. And it was just like, I knew it was her and I saw this and it's beautiful. And it's like, I'm just seeing everyone like freak out over her. Yeah. You're becoming the ick all right now. I'm like,
But it makes me like, because I've just always known. And it like makes me so fucking happy. You know what I mean? I love it. I keep seeing TikToks on my For You page. And it can be the most random shit. It's like a fucking cat like eating some shit. And all the comments, top comments are Brooke reposted. And I'm like, yeah. No, I get so much shit on my FYP about her too. And it's just like, it's really cute to see that, you know, they're like, Brooke's the new it girl.
and they just love it and then seeing you guys together i think you know everybody wants a best friend duo and you got we got a brunette and a blonde and it's like an inseparable literally it checks all the boxes and it's just like you know you guys are like i said you're just representing i just love to see good real people yeah yeah for sure like you were saying we show the toxic parts of our relationship too and i think that that people yeah it speaks to people because i feel like
Well, the clips of y'all that come across my FYP is y'all vulnerability is y'all superpower. It's kind of what ours is. It's like our... That's why I love you guys. It makes conversation so much cooler. If you just come in and lay the vulnerable stuff out first, you kind of let the room relax. And man, conversations start getting meaningful. 100%. You know what I mean? And it's just so different when it starts like...
as we've gotten older, this is when I knew I was getting old. When I started searching and craving meaningful conversations. Yeah. 100%. Something with substance for sure. Yeah. And vulnerability is the fastest way there. Yeah. I've always felt that way. I feel like I go on a lot of podcasts where the topics of conversation are just like, so how much did you make on OnlyFans? Yeah. And I'm like, oh,
Oh, come on. Not this again. Like it is nice. I feel like when we sit on this couch, like we are down to fucking put it all out there with people, without people, whatever it is. And it's like, we've got nothing to lose. I'll talk about anything. I will say though, back to the Grammys. They, uh,
I felt so loved, though. For us to be as far away as we was. Yeah. I mean, Taylor came over to talk to us. Jay-Z came over and talked to us. Really? It was really cool. What did they say? Jay was just like, yo, man, I'm hip. I knew he was hip, but he was just showering me with love, telling me he loves the way I'm doing it. You know what I mean? Taylor literally made it a point to come over to just say hey. Did you freak out? Yeah, for sure. He was fucking...
I would lose my mind. That makes me giddy to even think about. I got so nervous, I didn't remember the name of the park. But that's how nervous I was. But she's from a little town called Hendersonville, which is right outside of Nashville. And it's where my daughter lived with her mother before we got custody of her. And Taylor Swift built a, what do they call it?
She was just a park, right? A playground. A huge playground for kids out there. I'm like, I'm not from Tennessee. And I took my kid there for her whole younger life. You know what I mean? Oh, that's special because now. So I'm telling her that and she's like, really? And I was like, yeah, the one in fucking, I couldn't remember the name of the city. And I was just sitting there like, but it was really cool. But it was cool to me that they, even last night, SZA.
I was certain. I love the fuck out of SZA. She's so fucking pretty, dude. She's perfect. She's on. I was just like, bro. So I just kind of like politely, she's going by a big entourage. They're clear, secure. I mean, you know, it's fucking SZA. It's a big deal. So I'm kind of like a fan. I'm kind of jumping in out of the shadows. Like, hey, SZA, my name's Jelly. I wanted to say hi, and she stopped. And I told my wife, she poured a word into me, man. I mean, man, she...
She just like prophesied it over me. She was like, you don't know how much we're cheering for you. You don't know how much you mean to the world, how much you're changing people. I was sitting there like getting teary eyed and she's like, she's putting her finger on my chest every time going, God, I got a plan for you. I heard your wife's the greatest human ever. I want to meet her. I go tell my wife. She don't believe me. I'm like, SZA fucks with us. She wants to meet you. We should go over there right now. And she was like, I was like, I'm telling you, dude, SZA. Because, you know, Bunny thinks sometimes
This is where I have to gas her up too. Poor mama. Her imposter syndrome is, I'll meet people and be like, yo, they fuck with you. And she'll think that I'm just being like the husband, keeping the wife involved. I'm like, nah, bitch. They fuck with you. And then she sees Sizzlin'. You can feel your love through a screen unlike anyone ever. I really do mean that. And you're just real as fuck. You know what's funny is we were sitting here before and
just discussing what we wanted to talk to you about. And we were talking about all this meaningful stuff we want to talk to you about. But then Brooke's like, I'm like, I heard she dermaplained her pussy. I'm like, I want to hear about her cutting her vagina off with the dermaplaning tool. Well, now I just have to know before I continue my praises, but I just, in my head, I was like, fuck, I love her so much. How did we get there? So, God,
That's a canceled topic right there. I literally need to tell them the story. I was like, when I told it on the podcast, I was like, this is going to fucking go viral. And what y'all don't know is, you know when you hear a noise that makes you go like this? Yeah. Every time she talks about this, I'm just like, ooh. I told them after I did it. I'm clenching everything right now. It's so just pretty and it's just hard to believe she just acts all Jim Duggan. You know what I'm saying? It's just.
crazy. So I inspect my hootenanny all the time as every girl should, right? Absolutely. You know, like you got to get in the mirror. You got to spread your leg. You got to see what angles look good and what don't. You know, because, you know, we just want to look good for our man. Yeah. And any
I had a labiaplasty done in when baby right before I got with you right yeah you were stitched up I've never told this story yeah so that's crazy you know we really talk a lot about outies on this podcast yeah yeah so I had an outie and it was cute she had like little butterfly wings but I just didn't I just didn't like the aesthetic it wasn't for me girls who have outies I love them on them and they look so good on them but just on me I just didn't want it
So I ended up getting a labiaplasty and it was actually right whenever Jay and I first got together. And I remember I just wanted to have sex with him with the stitches and he ended up ripping one of my stitches. So I had like a little lip that hung and I had to, you know, like, Oh my God. Back in there to heal together. It was the whole thing.
But anyways. Getting off the crazy blue and shit. It's so uncomfortable. I knew this was going to happen here today. The transition of this conversation in just five minutes is so crazy. I love this shit. No, literally. So I was inspecting one night, as one does. And you know like a scar tissue when it grows out? I don't know if you've ever. I've never really had scar tissue. But on my...
lip like actual lip not the fucking the skin ones but the vagina lips thank you for the detail it just literally came out like a little it looked like a little piece of rice but it wasn't hard it was the same yeah she said it's like a skin tag yeah but it wasn't a skin tag it was like just a like you know like you know like jaggedness from being cut yeah and it just kind of came out a little too far I don't know and it just kind of came out a little too far and I was just like
I took a deep breath and I was like, I'm either going to fucking have to go and make an appointment and fucking pay $10,000 to get my fucking vagina. And when they give you a labiaplasty, let me tell you something. They pump it up to where your pussy is like, have you ever seen one of those suction things that you put on? Pump it up. Okay, and it makes your pussy all fat. That's what it looks like. They lidocaine it up and like pump it full of all this fluid and your pussy like is huge. You know, like it's the craziest thing you've ever seen. And that is not her pussy.
for the record. She was a little mousy. No, literally, right? So I'm like, I can go and have to deal with this or I can just fucking take care of it myself. So I rummaged around my fucking, you know, bathroom and I was like, what can I chop this off with? Because it was like a
little you know like I didn't think anything of it this is so crazy and I all I had was a little fucking dermaplane things and I was like all right this will do so I sat there and I did the first slice and I realized it was more than I had the knife I should have just had like a real razor blade so I literally had to sit there and just kind of saw through it giving ham sandwich that's the thing a dermaplane
leaning to it's not like a super sharp I realize that now like I thought they were hella sharp because you know they're scraping skin off your face I think a steak knife might have been better or a butter knife at this point some kitchen scissors literally something scissors would have been way quicker thanks Brooke
I'm so sorry. I don't know why I had to know about this, but I just really did. I'm traumatized. It was so small that literally the healing was like 24 hours and it was gone. Like it was done. Oh my God. Perfect. So we have this podcast episode where she talked about how when she can't get her fake tan off, she would use a magic eraser like for the kitchen. You know what I mean? Do not take...
medical advice or any advice from the canceled podcast. Yeah, please say no. Please not eat chemical burns. Yeah, and I gave a bunch of girls chemical burns. Oh, no. But like, all right, please do not sell your ass.
Please. All right. Or do it at your own risk. Go to a doctor, pay the money. It's way worth it. We are not WebMD. We cannot stress that enough. No, for sure. Or not well either. Oh my God. That's some shit I would do though, for real. I'm always in like the magnifying mirror just doing some shit I shouldn't be doing. No, I mean, I'm just poking around, just looking around, you know. I knew we weren't going to get out of here without f***ing.
lips being talked about at some point. I think that the dichotomy, you know, of just a little God talk, a little pussy lip talk, all of it together. That's literally our whole brand. Yeah. I really want to come on your podcast too. I'm ready. I'm so ready. Come on. Yeah, let's do it. It's next season. She should be one of your first guests at the new spot.
Next season is fucking wild. Do you shoot in Vegas? Yeah, we have a studio in Vegas and then we just bought a whole compound. We're moving from a like thousand square foot studio to a six thousand square foot house that is just for. In Vegas? No, in Nashville. So I have a studio in Nashville and I have a studio in
Vegas. When did y'all play Nashville? Do y'all know? We just did. What? Yeah. Yeah. We wanted you guys to come, but I forget you were doing something crazy. You were doing the onsite stuff, baby. Oh yeah. I was out. Yeah. Yeah. It was so much fun. We had a few days in Nashville too. It was great. What venue did we play in Nashville? Next time we'll come see you. I want to come see one of your guys' shows. I would love for you guys to come. Cause I thought,
for a minute I thought you were going to come and then I know you guys got busy and whatever but there was a couple days where we didn't know we were trying to plan it and I was like if Jelly Roll was at this show I have to kill myself I was like Jelly Roll cannot come to our fucking show I would have loved it I know now that you're more because I know that you're like with it like all of it like I never thought we'd have you on this couch discussing the pussy lip with the razor you know what I mean like
I love that. He always, he's, he supports whatever I support. So he's like, you want me to go? I'll go. I was like, you're going like, that's why we didn't do it. Um, whenever you guys came to Nashville, cause I wanted to get him on the pod with you guys. I think it's, this duo is just unmatched. It really is. And I love you guys. We support you guys, man. We're cheering you guys on. I feel the, we're going to make it back to Nashville. I love it.
And I'm trying to find me a country guy. We're about to be on tour, too. So, I mean, we'll link up because you guys are going back out, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're going back out now in the fall, I think. Okay, yeah. So we start August, right, baby? Uh-huh. Yeah, so we'll be on tour August and maybe, like, we can meet up in whatever city. Yeah, I know. I wonder if we're going to have any crossover.
Yeah, I really hope. That's the coolest thing. When you're touring and the homies have a day off or something. Do you enjoy touring? Oh, listen. It is my purpose. It is what I do. I call him a rambling man. Man, she knows from day one. I'm a shaker, dude. I've got it.
And I love it. Do you have any like touring rituals or things that you guys love to do on the road or things that make it easier? Just anything. Now I'm obsessed with knowing that. Yeah. Well, we, we have like pre-show rituals. We do me and the band get together. We say a prayer and have a thing we do. But as you get older, you'll see that I just focus on man, that hour and a half is all that matters that day to me. I
I try to, I feel like a professional fighter on show days. I try to stay off my feet. I try to make sure I slept good. Like I'm the guy that'll sleep for seven hours on that buzz. Yep. Wake up, take another melatonin, go back for four more. Absolutely. As much as possible. Cause I was like, if I don't get this sleep, no one's going to be happy. It's like, and the only way that your voice recovers, the body recovers is when it's asleep. Mm hmm.
It's the when your body heals itself. So it's like Brent Smith from a band called Shinedown taught me that. Yeah. He said the key to singing five nights a week is two gallons of water a day and no less than eight hours of sleep a night under any circumstance. Man, I live by it. Yep. And I won't drink. I won't drink if I have a show the next day. Yeah. That's my rule too is like if we do have a drink, it's got to be like no, I won't butt nothing up against it. I just.
Yeah, clearly. I showed up today. Yeah, this is why I don't do that because I blew a meeting today. Yeah. Oh, fuck it. I'll announce it here. Yeah, I don't care. I mean, we can always believe it. Yeah, we're partnering with
I'm with a record label called Stony Creek Records, which is Jason Aldean, Lainey Wilson and myself. That's amazing. It's a line up right there. It's incredible. We love Lainey. Shout out Lainey. Because we've been having success on the pop side now. Yeah. We're partnering that label with a label called Republic Records. Yep. Which is the home of Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Post Malone. Yep. That partnership happened today. Oh,
Oh, wow. Really? Yeah, it's a really big deal. It should be in the news cycle in the next couple days. I was supposed to go down there and play the album for both labels. And I was supposed to take a picture, like, you know, like the trade shot for the, you know, this is the biggest. This is Monty and Avery Lipman and John Lowe. Two biggest presidents in music. Yes. Three biggest presidents in music. And I fucking blew it.
blew it. Oh my God. I was so hungover. But he got up for the canceled podcast. I did make it here though. Such an honor. That might be the wrong setup. Like I think you might have should have bailed on us. No, no, no. Oh my, congratulations. That is so amazing. And you know what?
you'll be back there you will definitely that's how i felt i get to hang out with a few of them all night and then i heart radio like the night before i heard it's so fun i've been to a few and it's they're so fun man they do it it was the best award show we've been to really yeah because it feels really young and fun yeah exactly like yeah they know what they're doing man they get you in there they put you on the carpet you're on the carpet for like fucking 20 30 minutes and then you go straight to the show the show's two hours and you go home
- Yeah, just perform like a gospel structure. - We got song carpets that are like two hours. - Yeah. - Yeah, we performed, me and Lainey did "Save Me." - Yeah. - It was really, really cool. - Oh my God, I need to go watch immediately. - It was, you gotta, it's really, we've done a lot of song, that thing together a lot. Last night was the best version of it we've ever done. - Really? - It was special, dude. - No, it was really good. Hey, you fucking killed it. - I've gotta see it. - When you were real last night.
It was awesome. It was really, really special. And then I won those two awards and Shinedown gave it to me, which are like mentors of mine. Yeah. That's amazing. At that point, that was the moment I was like, oh yeah, tonight is one of the celebratory nights. Yeah. For sure. To the rainbow room we go. Yeah. I love that. It is. Next thing I know, I'm shooting shots with Flavor Flay Award. Fucking Flavor Flay Award.
I love him. And he's a Vegas icon. I love him. Do you ever just see him roaming around Vegas randomly too? I see him at every fucking award show now. Does he stop the clock? He's the sweetest man. And his wife is so fucking cool, man. She's this hot fucking bodacious blonde.
I love that. Yeah. A Flavor Flavor is 65 and he still has so much fucking energy. Yeah. And he's so nice and he's so welcoming. And the cool thing about him is he cheers everybody the fuck on. He really does. He really, he like gives everybody their flowers. He's so happy. What are you smiling about? Just flavor. I'm just thinking. I know. Right.
I have so many videos of my phone last night of him. He's just so happy. The best part last night was when Beyonce was up there. She goes up and everybody quits clapping for a second. And right before she goes to speak, you just hear Flavor Flav go. Yeah. What do you guys think about Beyonce's country album? Love it. I'm here for it. I want everybody to go country. Yeah. Listen, as somebody who is in the country music space,
Post Malone doing a country album, great for us. Lana Del Rey doing a country album, great for us. Let's go. I'm ready for that one. Me too. Beyonce doing a country album, great. Like all of this is like,
It's just, it's blurring the lines of music a little more. I am, this country is so divided right now. Yeah. And we have created systems to divide America, right? We have a two party political system. That's the stupidest shit ever. It's like going to a fucking football game. Somebody's going to cheer for this guy and against this guy. It's fucking up. It's immediately made to split us. Wow. I think genres are too. Yeah. Because they become such a thing where you start to pride yourself on them. Like, Oh, I don't listen to country or I don't listen to pop or
or I don't listen to rock. And it's like, man, but what if it's good music? Yeah. What if they put it in a rock category? And country has always been so far away from everything else. And it is people like, I don't listen to country. It's so nice. And that's the only thing people say. No one ever says like, Oh, I don't listen to pop. I feel like everyone wants to like boast about not listening to country. I'm like,
like it's a brag i don't listen but it's like it's country music cooler than it's ever been i know and it's it's my favorite i fucking i love it so much and i think it's so sick and i think it's i say it all the time i give the flowers immediately it's it's zach bryan and morgan wallen i mean you know what i mean they took country music to a complete to a critical mass scale morgan wallen's yeah we got a stream him and zach bryan outstream every pop artist on earth but a big three
But Taylor or The Weeknd or one of, you know what I mean? Besides that, they are Beyonce. They're out streaming. Dude, we went to see Zach Bryan. He's my favorite. She was like, do you want to go with me to see Zach Bryan in LA? I thought we were going to be in a car to the motherfucking Roxy. And we show up at the forum and I was like, oh shit. Like I didn't realize. And it was like night one of four.
It almost feels like, I know he's been around, I think, too, but it does feel like he just came out of nowhere and got so successful so quickly. TikTok blows people up. You don't get to see all the hard work that they did before. I was thinking Noah Kahn. He got Best New Artist or something, and it's like he's been making music forever. Kind of like my story. He's also Hillman and Zach are salt of the fucking earth. They're great humans. Love that.
them. So awesome. The best, all best new artists at the Grammy this, this year, I feel like it was just, it was so different than it's ever been. Like, I feel like a lot of the year's best new artists to me felt like it was just a bunch of like industry plant vibes. Like, you know what I mean? Like this year really felt like all these fucking real people who did it and make amazing music. Like this shift is like, even Victoria, I'm, I
I stand up for her winning that award. What people don't know about Victoria, y'all probably do, is that Victoria wrote hits for everybody. Yeah. You've listened to so many Victoria songs that you didn't know because Ariana sung them or Miley sung them or whoever. But like that girl has been writing hit songs for everybody but herself for the last decade. Yeah. So it's like to watch her get that. Now it's her time. Yeah. It was cool this year to look around. I felt the same way you felt. I looked around like,
All of these new artists category are like celebrities. Yeah. Like normally they're not like you'll have like one stand, like Olivia, the year she won. But traditionally it's like you said, it's just kind of the newer industry people. Like I looked around, like Noah sells out arenas. Yep. Victoria's wrote dozens of hits. I sell out arenas. I just remember looking, uh, Fred again, the DJ. Yeah. Huge.
You know what I mean? Like even the guy that you knew the least there can go sell out bread rocks. You know what I'm saying? And have cult fans. Like real fucking fans. Not just like some ghost streams. For sure. It was like a cool...
I don't think they'll ever have it that stacked again. That category won't ever be that stacked again. When that shit got announced, I was like, oh my God. Because I love you. I love Noah. I was like, oh my God, I don't even know what to do. I thought Noah deserved it too. I did. I was cheering for Noah. But I also lose my mind every time. I love her, my baby.
but it's the season that sticks and grinds. That's my favorite fucking song ever. When I see it live, I'm going to croak. I need to so bad. We've tried so many times and we just keep missing him because we're either all gone. Same with you though. I can't wait to see you live. It'll catch each other. We're talking about bumping into each other. But y'all know Burt Kreischer? Yes. Have y'all ever met Burt?
I haven't but I wish Burt is the man he would love Burt yes him and his wife they're all man such a fucking boss but so funny I think we bumped into Burt four times this year on the road really it was just like we toured the same cycle and the same amount of shows yeah so like
I swear it's five different times I got to go see Burt because it was an off night or he'd be an hour away. Yeah. So we played Dallas the same night. Really? Yeah, I pulled up to the arena so fucking mad. I played the amphitheater and I couldn't get the arena and I walked in the arena. I was like, you're why I couldn't get this fucking arena, Burt? That just happened to us in Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah. Was he still touring? Yes. It was so fucking funny to see the line of canceled fans next to the line of Jerry fans talking to each other. So it was like two theaters in the same place.
like place. So like, um, where were we? Got into my head. I couldn't tell you. No, we were in San Antonio, Texas. Basically we shared the same like little area and whatever, but like they had to walk in at the same time. So it was like a bunch of like middle-aged people in like gowns and then the canceled fans and shirts that say like,
I do anal. That's hilarious. Yes. That is hilarious. It was so funny. You could tell the Jerry fans were scared shitless. I love that. But you know what? I bet you guys converted some of them too. I hope so. It piqued their interest. I just, if nothing else, I hope they were curious about what was going on. It's like cross pollination. Yeah, absolutely. All boats float, dude. Who do you watch on TikTok? Like who are some of your favorite TikTokers?
Starzy. I love Starzy. He's one of my favorites. A lot of people don't know about him, but he's this kid who like, I don't really know much about him, but he's so fucking hilarious. He carries around a doll and he swims in creeks all the time and he finds shit. You know what I'm talking about? You
You know what I'm talking about? I fucking love him because he's feel good content. Yeah. You know, like I can't follow like drama and like people that are beefing with each other and shit like that. Like that shit makes me feel icky. When I follow people, I want to laugh or I want to smile or I want to feel good. And literally that kid, just all he does is just make people smile. Stop. I can't wait. You got to go check him out. He is the sweetest little angel ever. What's on your for you page? I'm still on the mama tot train.
Yes. That's your favorite, right? I love Mama Tide. I love Mama Tide, babe. Something about Mama Tide just does it for me. She's everything. She's feel good. She's country. She's such a sweet human too, but she's just country enough that I get it. So like the first time I seen it, I was like, oh, I grew up with her. That's my aunt.
Yep. You know what I mean? I was like, I've got like four aunts and an uncle that are just like her. Yeah. Oh my God. If I'm having a bad day and I get one of those mama top videos where she sits down and she's like, Oh my God, it's sending me every time. I'm like, I need a sandwich. Yes. Right now. Have you got, have you got to meet her?
No, I haven't. She's so sweet. You got to meet her. You'll love her. She is everything. Yeah, she came on the podcast a couple years ago. Papa Tots the dude, too. He's a hoot and a half, too. Yeah, Papa Tots is a sweet guy. I love hoot and a half. I love all of your country phrases you've said. If you said something tickled you. I'm borrowing everything you guys have said. No, it's fine. Take it. You have so many funny little phrases. Growing up, my parents would ship me to Texas if I was bad with my grandma. So I have some country roots in me and certain things like that. I love it.
I love that. I can see myself living in the country at some point. It's peaceful. You come to Tennessee? Yeah. I want to go to Tennessee so bad. We'll find you a country boy. That's easy. I need it so bad. And now Matt Rife's in Nashville. Yes. Did you hear what she did with Matt's exes? Oh, yeah. I've seen this. I can't help it. It's the funniest thing ever. It's so honest. I was like...
go Brooke go she got on a lot of the group chat I'm usually not so messy but I was having a moment oh dude it's iconic it was so good I was just sitting there watching it all but now I'm reformed and now I need a nice country boy there you go I'm excited to see what you do in Nashville for fun because Nashville for me it's kind of like I experience it with a lot of people who want to go out and drink and it's
it's kind of like a country Vegas if you're literally I mean it's called Nash Vegas yeah and so I would love to see what you do there I do nothing I do nothing at all I work I love doing nothing literally well it's just uh Nashville has become my peace my safe space and when I want chaos I go to Vegas yep and I'll go fucking gamble with the crew or you know we'll fucking go run around there and do shit and then I go home and everything's just what do you play when you gamble
Blackjack. Oh my God. I see you're playing poker. Yes, it's my favorite thing. I love that about you. I just got back from Vegas yesterday. I was gambling my whole heart away. It's my favorite. Do you have a gambling problem? No. However, I'm trading one vice for another. Yes, however, I'm having to...
you know, be aware of. You guys saw that stuff where people were saying that Bruno Mars was $50 million in debt from gambling. Yeah, I saw that. But then apparently he's not. Yeah, he got a marker probably and it's like working it off or something. Yeah, he, I don't think he actually is, but it scared me for a second. I was like, listen, this can, if it can happen to Bruno, it can for sure fucking happen to Tambo. Okay, so I'm, yeah, I'm chilling with it.
When I used to work in Vegas and I was doing my other profession, I used to... Which was? The call girl. I was a high-priced call girl, yeah. So fun. I'm kidding. Sorry. But I would sit at the poker tables all the time and watch all the whales fucking just play like, you know, fucking 200, 500 grand a hand. And I just used to watch it like just sick to my stomach. Like, how do you do that? Taking a couple chips, hopefully, for the road. You've been so open about...
everything like you're you know what I mean like obviously stopping doing that but also even OS and everything like you quit yeah what what did you just wake up one day and you're like this isn't me anymore I'm so glad we get to talk about this you get to a point where you just have to like
I was making I'm I've built so much with the podcast now that it's like I'm making more money now with my clothes on. Why am I going to have this over here on the side where I'm taking my clothes off and literally showing everything? But I'm also at home raising a little girl who's trying to teach her self-worth and, you know, that she doesn't need to use her body to do things and stuff like that. So my priorities kind of changed because I was just like.
I tell everybody I married a rapper. Everybody's like, you don't dress like a country singer's wife. And I'm like, because I married a fucking rapper. You know, that's why I don't. She's got the denim boots on. I don't wear that. You guys have some country in you. Yeah, for sure. It's country but C-U-N-T. Right, exactly.
I love that. Yes. And I just got, you know, my husband was switching over to country and Jay has never asked me to not do anything. He's never asked me to be not be in the sex industry. He's always been like, baby, whatever fills your cup and makes you feel independent. Cause I am always like, I have to be independent. I have to pay my own way and blah, blah, blah. So he's never asked me to stop. But when he switched over to country, I was just like, I don't want to be the only country music
Star's wife who has their butthole on the internet. Yeah, you know and I was just like I don't want to do this for the our kid and I don't want to do this for him anymore. So I was just like, you know, it was scary because I was gonna lose a huge chunk of my income but at the same time I was like, I just got to trust God and trust the universe. And yeah, I'm so glad I did because he gave it back to me tenfold. Yeah.
Yeah. And I'm sure the podcast is a lot more like fulfilling. It is. I love it. The podcast. Yeah. I'm in a similar boat right now. Like I I've been doing it for years and years and I loved it when it started. Like, cause it was so fun and yeah. You know what I mean? But now it's like, we do this all the time. Like the other day I shot for it and I was like, I don't, I don't know if this is me anymore, but I'm in this weird battle where it's like, I was sexualized for so long and I loved the idea of, of,
flipping it, you know what I mean? And getting to make the money and be like, fuck you. You know what I mean? But I just, I'm battling with like, not like putting the check down. You know what I mean? It's like, do it because God's going to bless you in other ways. I promise you. And what's taking your time to focus on that, you're going to be able to pour it into something else and it's going to come
it's literally just going to come back tenfold I promise you we could be in our no OF era I love that let's go baby we get to be part of the ushering in of that era I love that and I love my girls who do OF you know like fucking go babies go get that fucking bag do whatever you gotta do but when you're ready to hang it up hang it up and it's not like you can't ever go back it's so true literally and I even told Jay that and I tell everybody I'm like listen if we ever come up on hard times you know I'm fucking OF
it up again, you know? But for right now, it just doesn't serve a purpose in my life. I hate to always drop a quote, but my father used to always say... No, I'm loving it. He's literally like this all the time. My father used to always say, you can always go back, but you can't always go forward. And that's like a philosophy in life. If you start walking into the forest, you can always turn around and walk back out of the forest. There might not always be the chance to go forward. So if you've got a chance to go forward,
go forward damn do it damn never stop dropping quotes first are you kidding that's a buddy before quote is my father talking about that that's awesome rest in peace buddy and you guys are just such good parents now and everything i do want to touch on something about the of thing because it was she posted about getting off of a year or two ago and it was kind of there was a little context missing yeah because of course all these articles everything i post now turns into a fucking headline but uh
She had quit shooting content for OF a year before she got off OF. Two years. I hadn't made a new video. I was literally recycling and fucking making so much money off of it. It was wild. The headline looks like
Daily Wire posted yesterday, jelly plant smoosh on like recently retired sex worker wife. And I'm like, I just went and sucked a dick. Like what the fuck? No, it was the Daily Mail, not the Daily Wire. It was the Daily Mail. But I was like, maybe we'll just give a little context here. You know what I'm saying? She wasn't popping pussy for 30 months before that either. You know what I mean? It's like, you know.
They hold on to everything. The Daily Mail has been it. And my thing is, I just want to support her in whatever she wants to do. I mean, she's a beautiful woman. I wanted her to feel beautiful above everything. And if that makes her feel beautiful and seen, I was always with that. There's another old quote that says, there's a guy in a hole and I can go by and
try to pull them out can't get them out somebody drops a ladder and can't get them out and then somebody jumps in the hole yep and the guy look you really you know this story right and the guy goes oh we're fucked now both of us are in the hole and the guy goes no i know the way out you know what i mean and that's our relationship we're in the hole together you know what i'm saying that's it i'm beside you i'm not in front of you i'm not behind you i'm beside you i feel you guys so much and it just shows it just how authentic your relationship i think it's one of the most authentic relationships like
for the that the public is seeing like right now and today i love when people compare us to sharon and ozzy oh come on i'm like okay i'll take it i will too actually i'm a little aloof yeah it's valid though if you ever see him drunk i got a video on my phone right now of him walking naked down the hallway i'm trying to figure out how i can post it on tiktok when she said i was naked running down the hallway i thought like
shirt off or something you know yeah i mean i didn't have a pair of socks he had no skivvies on oh my god i was crazy i mean i'm ass naked she's trying like don't do it i was like fuck yeah he's like i think you don't know who you married bunny i was like okay i was like go ahead then go off king keeping it fun keeping it yeah i want to know one thing yeah is there will you ever have any more kids no
You know, we talk about this a lot. And I actually, the other day, right before we got into bed, I was like, do you regret us not having kids? And he's like, this is a really deep fucking question while we're getting into bed. Right. He was like, it's two 15 in the morning. My wife goes, do you think we're making a mistake by not having more kids? And I'm like,
She goes, do you think we should have a kid? And I was like, bunny, that's a really heavy topic at 3 a.m. I was like, and when I come to bed, I'm a cannabis user. And by the time I come to bed, I'm about as high as you can be. You know, that's about when I know I'm going to sleep is when I reached where I'm smoking as a formality. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? And he takes melatonin. I popped a melatonin. I might have been on a muscle relaxer or something. My teeth were getting fixed. And she's like, should we have a baby? And I was like, whoa. I was over here thinking about aliens. He's like, right now? I was over here like, how did the pyramids get built?
So we have Bailey, you know, he's 16, who's literally about to leave for college. And then we have Noah, who's seven, seven or eight. I always get it wrong. Which is from one of his exes. When him and I first got together, he was getting out of a like 10 year off and on relationship and she was already pregnant and they decided to just have the, you know, she was nine months pregnant. So it was like, you know, we're having this kid and we're raising the baby.
And when we first got together, like I was kind of in like I I never really desired to have children. Even growing up. She's so maternal. It's so crazy how much of a mother instinct she is. She's such a nurturer. Yeah, I love that. But I just really was always like, I want to be a boss. I want to have my own business. And, you know, never thought about having kids. That could be your baby. Yeah. Yeah.
When we decided we were going to try to have kids, we started to go get IVF. And this was probably in like, what, 2017, 2018, 2018, 2019.
I went and I did the test. I don't know what the name of the test is, but it's where you get your tube. They push through to see if you can get an egg down your tube. I've had two ectopic pregnancies, so I have a lot of scar tissue in there. And when they did this fucking test, I went by myself because I'm like, oh, I got this. You don't need to come to this, whatever. I'm going to go. It was the most excruciating, painful thing I've ever fucking been through in my life. And they said, this is what childbirth feels like.
Oh, no. And so I'm literally walking to the car, like, don't even know how I'm going to fucking drive home. And I'm just hurting so bad. And I was just like, you know, maybe I don't want to do IVF because I was like, this is fucking horrific. Pregnancy scares the shit out of me. For sure. Me too. Your situation is ideal to me. Literally. Like, I'm not kidding. Like, give me a lot. I love it. I'm like,
I'm like, give me all the babies if they're not mine. You know, like I'm totally fine with that. But yeah. And then so I think we kind of revisited the idea. And I was just like, do we really want to have kids right now? And, you know, Jay was like, maybe I'll do whatever you want to do. You know, and I was just like. Because I feel like she came in and raised my children. Like if my wife wants a kid, I wouldn't hesitate. I'd go right now.
You know, practicing is a lot of fun. All right. Who wants to be our surrogate? Right. Surrogate every time. So if we did have a kid and if we did it, I would do it out of the public eye. I would like be, I'd do some Kylie Jenner type shit. Like we didn't announce it until the baby was born and stuff like that. Cause the world is so intrusive. What are you guys eyeballing each other for? Who's got a surrogate? No, it's a secret pregnancy. We'll tell you after. Okay. They probably know. I'm sure they know. Oh, I don't know. Maybe not. Yeah.
So, you know, if we do go that route, it's going to be with a surrogate. And I've been tossing it back and forth a little bit more now that we're like more secure to like in our relationship and in our family. And like, you know, when we first got together, neither one of us had a pot to piss in. You know, I was making so much fucking money, but had nothing to show for it. Yeah. I didn't know how to fucking save money. I didn't know fucking, you know, I didn't. I was just like, well, you're never taught that. It's like you don't look at money the way that. Right. Yeah.
you know, maybe I don't want to say a sane person, but you know what I mean? Like I definitely, like I dealt with a lot of that where it's like, just not having anybody to guide you. Like, yeah. Like who's going to tell you what to do with your money when nobody's ever made any money. Yeah. We have no frame of reference of what success looks like at all. Yeah. And then you end up with it and then you're kind of, I think there's a thing that we were so afraid of this thing disappearing. Hmm.
You know how that feels. I still deal with that. I think too a lot when I'm just like, man, I'm off the, uh, I'm off social media right now. Yeah. I took March off and did a wellness month for me. I love that. I got my teeth fixed. This shit I've been avoiding doing for 20 years. I went to a place called onsite, which is a mental wellness resort. Hmm.
And I stayed in the cabin with no phone for like two weeks and just did some heavy work. Making sure that I was getting my head straight with a guy named Miles Adcox. Who's here with us. Yeah, who's here with us now. He's like a mental health guy that's just really kind of making sure. Oh, wow. I started realizing that as the public attention was coming in,
that I knew that I have a higher purpose and I was like man I just want to make sure I'm thinking about this right it goes back to talking to people like I never had a real mentor I was like I just want to talk to people that know more than me yep you know what I mean like I just need to start getting around like I realized that I was having all these conversations about God and I don't even know one pastor yeah so like I met a pastor yeah a really cool guy named Pastor Judah yeah and uh Smith and he's been pastoring me this month but it's been like
so therapeutic and the whole process of everything. I don't even know how I got on that tangent really. I think I was just excited to talk about my growth. I think I was talking about my growth. I was excited. I've lost like 60, 70 pounds this year. Really? Yeah, I saw that you want to do a marathon. Yeah, I'm doing the 5K with Bert Kreischer and Tom Segura. Are you? If y'all are in town, you should come support me. It's big deal. I fucking absolutely will. We're doing it here. I think it's a little farther from here. I'm such a Bert fan too. I'm like, oh, you guys will love it. You guys got to swap on
pot on if y'all got on on the Burt cast that'd be so fucking I would absolutely love to I would absolutely love to I love that for you though I'm just like oh but the social media things what I was thinking but I'm sorry and I'm sober rarely I mean normally it's high but I haven't been on social media and today was a day where like I keep asking my wife like hey is
everything going okay over there? Yeah, right. Because you know, we had a big moment last night and I'm like, your speech is going viral. And you have moments where you're like, I hope today's not the day that people quit caring. Yeah. I still have that fear. Like I woke up after such a great night and just a little, the kid in me, that insecure kid was still like, I wonder if anybody cares or do this today or the day?
I couldn't relate to that more. I think that I, I've spent all of my career, the last 10 years at least where people are like, you're so driven. You're always working. And like you, you know what I mean? You want this, you're going to, you're going to make it work one way or another. And I, I don't think that I realized for a long time that the only thing that was driving that was fear. Like was complete. It wasn't just like, Oh, I love to, it was fear. Like, like I know if this goes away tomorrow, I have nothing to fall back on. So it's like,
And it's a, I don't know if it ever goes away. I don't think so. Cause I'm the same way. Yeah. You know, leaving home at 14 and not never having help from anybody and like building what, you know, I've built by myself and with my husband is like, if I can, you just get to a point where you're like,
Like I even told him last night, we were talking about being off of social media. And I was like, I wish I could get off social media sometimes, but I can't. I feel the same way. Because that's how I built my business, you know. I feel the same way. Yeah. So I totally relate to what you just said about, you know, doing that out of fear. Because you're just like, okay, well, if I log off for a month, how are my fucking numbers going to look? I had to though, man. It was starting to affect my mental health. I was catching myself.
When I found myself arguing with a dude whose profile picture was Woody Harrelson. You know what I mean? I struggle with that a lot. There's so many fucking trolls, though. Seven thread argument with him. And that's not even my style. My style is like not to argue anyway about anything. You know what I mean? I kind of I grew up in and out of the system. So yeah, before I get mad enough to argue with you, I'll just get physical. Yeah. Yeah.
You know what I mean? It's like, we'll just fucking fight. You know what I mean? We'll skip all the talking and just fist fight. You know? 100%. So it's like, and I find myself, and I was just like, man, I was hitting back people in DMs. Yeah. I struggle with that too because it's so hard for me to see something and not have a reaction or like response. And I was placing so much value in it and she's like, you cannot do that. Yeah, I can't. You gotta get off her ass.
You need to bleep that. You guys got to stop giving that website so much free press. Like for real, they don't deserve it. Fuck them. Like for real. Just from now on, bleep that out of your podcast because you guys are so powerful. You drive more people to it. You know? So don't even, we don't, on my podcast, literally on my podcast, we bleep it. I do not, because they love that. They relish in that.
She talked about it. She said our name on there, you know, and it's just like, fuck. Yeah, it's not a troll. The threads are it's so nutty. The other day, my best friend came and showed me that there was like this whole thread of like hundreds of people arguing for days on if my boyfriend was black or not. And I was like,
First of all, he is. But I was just like, dude, this guy has a private social media. Like it is so crazy that someone just dedicated like 18 hours of their 24 hour day to do this. But it is like and you want to like chime in and shit because it's like
It's so weird to fall into a world where all these people are perceiving you. Yeah. It's so harmful. It's harmful what they're doing to themselves. So malicious. To spend that much time obsessing over people that you've never met. So toxic for them. But also it's toxic for us to have to read lies about ourselves and misbehave.
And like when when I first started blowing up, that shit would bother me to like to the point where I would I threw a rock at every dog that barked. I fucking would argue and fight in the comments and stuff like that. And he would just tell me, baby, you got to let that shit go. You know, he's like people are going to talk about you no matter what. And I'm telling you, get off that website. The best thing I ever did was fucking delete that app from my phone. I am. I'm going to that wellness camp.
I didn't even go to that wellness camp but I'm telling you right now fucking just get off that app it's so detrimental to your health I'm telling everyone after today that y'all are our new mentors can I just say like sincerely in the history of the cancelled podcast this episode truly feels like so much more special than most we're choosy too like now because a lot of people don't even want us to have guests because it's just like
Yeah. But I really, this is like, we choose people who we love and who like, we think will be special on you guys. And I think that's really cool about your fans that that's a testament of what y'all built. Thank you. That they're just like, yeah, fuck a guest kind of, you know? Yeah. Sometimes they like it, but you know. I told Bunny this for years. We were talking about her going into this season. She's going to start shooting like for bigger guests. Mm-hmm.
Because I think to this point, I think to this point, bunnies, people just tune in because of bunny. You know what I mean? It's one of those things like people just, I've told bunny all the time, like you could sit there and talk for an hour by yourself and I don't think you would lose a single subscriber. 100%. I'm staying on the clips of just her every time. And then the guests too. I can't name a guest you've had and I've seen a million. I love you guys. I just care about what you're saying. I appreciate that. I just feel like I,
I love hearing people's story. I love stories. I love learning about what makes them tick. I love the psychology of it. Same. I love the emotion of the ride and listening to their story. So I don't think I could ever not have a guest. I mean, I do. We do like propaganda and I do like Q&A's and stuff like that on my Patreon, which is huge, too. You guys need to get a fucking podcast.
Patreon we've been talking about it I'm like I feel like we're missing out I didn't want to have too much paywall shit so now that maybe if I'm stopping no F it's yeah there you go I have 140,000 subscribers on Patreon if you guys got on Patreon you'd blow me out of the water literally and it's monthly right so even if it's a dollar it's literally just like O F hold on
I've been saying this to you. I'm telling you. Oh my God. That just made me sick to my stomach. Yeah. We, we, we definitely have to have a combo about that, but it's funny that you say that, that you, cause that's why I like to have on guests. It is selfish. It's like, I want to know that I, I saw this tick tock the other day. I was telling her about it, but it's like when you grow up in a,
turbulent household a lot of people manifest that trauma in wanting to know the psychology behind why their parents were the way they were and that's like why everybody is the way they are yeah and that's that's exactly where i'm at like i yeah you should consider going out to on-site oh for sure i would love to you would learn so much i learned so much really it's the best decision ever miles is here we'll give them you guys i would love to the guy who owns it it's but it's um
Man, we went when we had an issue with our daughter about 18 months ago is how we ended up there. Yeah. And right then I knew it was the real deal. And even then I was like, I'm coming back. And I set off March and went. Wait, it's so funny. Yesterday. I now understand things. I tell this story the most, but I'm sure she would still mind. But something I learned was I grew up in a house where my mother never left her bedroom. She struggled with mental health and drugs. She never came out of her room. My mother was similar. Yeah. Yeah.
My wife grew up in a household where the only place she felt safe was in her room. So imagine when she's going through something in life because of the way her stepmother was to her, the only place you could hide from her was a room. Mm-hmm.
bunny retracts back to the room yeah because of my childhood triggers yeah i take it triggers me like what am i doing wrong i'm trying to get my mom out of the bedroom again yeah so i would go into the bedroom early in our relationship and i would cause these fights that wasn't fights yeah injecting myself into her shit thinking i was trying to help her yeah and she just needed the space and then i took it personal yeah and it's like just little things that i learned
in that community at onsite. Now we never now it's like something that was a frequent issue in our relationship is now like if I see my wife, it's her back to the bedroom. You straight.
Yeah. You need me to sit with you? No. Cool. I'm downstairs smoking weed, hollering for you. You know what I'm saying? It's like instantly. I love that. It's like, and I've learned so many little things like that. It's so weird. We had this whole conversation yesterday where I was like, I really want to find a therapist or someone to help me. But I struggle with the fact that I'm so self-aware that a lot of times I go in and it's like, oh, you just need to hug your inner child. And it's like, well, no fucking shit. Yeah. You know, like you need someone. And I was like, I'm just going to wait for it to come to me. So it's funny that you...
You manifested it. You put it into the universe. Words are spells. So whatever you put into the universe is going to come back to you. I noticed that so heavily. I got a guy. I'll introduce you. He's the guy. No, they're amazing. Onsite has changed our lives. Yeah, it changed our life. And I went because I was in a place where I was like, one, I found myself having these arguments. And I realized I didn't know it then, but it's because I'm making a big change in my life with my obesity. Mm-hmm.
and I'm sensitive because anytime I've ever tried to change in my life because of the prison system, I was met with resistance. So when I'm trying to make these changes where normally I'd see a fan comment, I hope he doesn't die. Yeah. Soon. You know, I see that all the time and I'd just be like, whatever. But when you're actually trying to change it, you're more sensitive to it. So it hurts your feelings a little more because you're like, you're more sensitive to it. And I,
because I know how hard it is to make a big change in life. You know what I mean? This is a lifelong addiction I got with food that I'm fighting right now. You know what I mean? That I'm learning my way around. And that's another reason I got to get off social media because we're in the era where whoever can say the meanest comment wins. Yes. And it's I feel so sickened for my daughter.
I hate that she grew up, she's growing up in this era. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like first thing we had to deal with was a kid down the hallway talking behind your back. I talk about this all the fucking time that it's like, I cannot imagine what bullying in today's day and age feels like. Like back then it was like, okay, someone can say some shit or a group of people can get together. Like you square up, you know what I mean? Like now it's like,
The internet, like TikToks are going viral about like kids. Just being mean. People talking shit about other people. It's the fucking weirdest shit I've ever seen. We're in a place where it's cool to be mean. Yeah. It's just so fucking sad. It's cool to be a troll. It's weird. Yeah. It's just being mean. It's like, it was never cool to be mean. No. Yeah. I saw someone say like, back at like, if you were to be in person with somebody and you saw someone like bullying somebody, everybody's natural reaction would be to like,
you know yeah to defend them and online it's like your natural reaction is to join in on the bullying yeah it's so interesting to like the comment or to even watch yeah just to watch and it's like yeah it's it's fucking sad era man i was telling her that about um
we're talking about some shit we probably shouldn't today, but we let, we let Bailey, I let Bailey take the car the other day by herself to go pick something up for me. And I don't know if y'all remember when she has her permit, she's almost 16. I think every parent did that. I'm sure their parents like, Hey, I know you're not supposed to. And it kind of gives a little freedom and it's kind of exciting. Yeah. It's super. I know, I know how excited I was when I was that age. So I knew it was a big deal for her, but I told bunny, I was sad when she left because we, we all have life 360. Mm.
Best app ever. Yeah, it's the best app ever. But it was sad for me because I was like, the first thing I did when I got that car was went and picked up the friend they told me not to pick up. You can go to the store, but you better not go pick up John. And I went straight to John's house and peeped on her. Get in, motherfucker. And I was like, and she don't get to do that.
Yeah. But I also had to remind him that we don't live in the same world as we grew up in, you know, like fucking even the world 10 years ago was way cooler than it is now. The world is beautiful. Life is beautiful. But people are fucking way shittier now. It seems like that or we're just more aware to it. But yeah, you know, people kidnapping fucking all that shit. I was just at home in Vegas for Easter and we drove past my high school and I got in a conversation with my best friend about how our parents like, duh, you're walking home five miles from school alone. Fucking duh.
And now it's like, and she was like, I can't believe they let us do that. And I was like, it was just a different fucking time. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? What high school did you go to? I went to Green Valley High School. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Dropped out as a sophomore. Yeah. Same. Well, I went to Vegas High School, but yeah. Did you? That's...
that is so y'all's story is fucking weird it is it truly is like a mirror reflection yeah and i love it with your parents too it's fucking crazy i would love to like really sit with you i want to come on your pod dude i'm ready yeah just sit with you and compare next season we'll bring you guys on y'all should come to tennessee and we should do some country shit if you don't want to drink we'll go ride four wheelers yeah absolutely my dream that's like all i want to do right now every weekend i'm like
horseback riding. I don't know how serious this invite is, but I'm fucking serious. This is dead serious. We'll ride four wheelers. You want to ride horses? They have horses on onsite they ride. Oh my God. And four...
- I feel like I'm making a wish child today. - You really don't understand. - Thank you so much. - I love that. - I think it's cool that you think we're cool. - You do have imposter syndrome. - We feel the same way about you guys. - You guys are the fucking shit. And like this episode,
is exactly what I want out of an episode being so different. Even just everything that we've talked about. Like I said that to her, I was like, I just, I hope that we get into the shit with them because it's like, we don't get to do that a lot. And I think so much of what was said today is like so many people like really need to hear and coming from you guys. And it's just like, nah, I'm so happy. So much time tearing people down, tearing things down that we kind of, when we got together, it was to build.
Yeah. We were shitty humans. We were shitty humans before we got together. And we were shitty humans together the first few years of our relationship. And when we split in 2018 and we came back together, we were like, this is make or break. We're either going to fucking become better humans and better the world and people that we are around, or we're just not going to be together. But that recognition and ability to turn that around and the strength to turn that around and the drive to, because it takes work, you know what I mean? It is work.
is one percent of people like it's so i just commend you yeah i feel like you guys have made up for it 10 times over if you stopped right now i feel like you would have no and you're just getting started yeah i was like i feel like we're not we have so much to do still and i'm excited about it dreamers yeah we love to watch it it's so so cool and special to see and we're obsessed we just can't thank you enough for coming on the cancer thank you we'll come anytime
We're coming to Nashville. Tennessee, baby. Come on. Four wheelers and horse guys. You guys gotta come to the new studio. I would love to have you guys be my first guests in the new studio. I'm fucking there. And it's in Vegas. Come on. We'll go push some blackjack. Never mind. We will go to on-site and heal. We'll do an on-site week and we'll do a four wheeler week. It'll be great. She said, never mind. We'll go to on-site and heal. Yes, for real.
For real, which is a lot better than Vegas. I just, I fucking love you guys so fucking much. We love you guys. Thank you so much. I feel bad you guys are getting sunburned. No, you're fine. I feel bad because the sun's just on you guys. No, you're fine. I would literally do anything. We love you. Damn, we did a real pod. Y'all spent two fucking hours. Let's go. Yay! Thank y'all to all the canceled people. Thank you so much. For all the people that found Son of a Sinner because of Tana, I love y'all. Thank you so much. Stop it. That song has to go streaming now.