32: Tana and James Charles Coachella Reunion Ep. 32
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Hello and welcome back to episode 4 of season 2 of the cancelled podcast Hi, Brooke. Hi, Tana. It feels so good to be home. Oh, I'm so happy to have you back today I was reviewing episode 3 of cancelled and I was like watching that last episode and that was like day 75 like I drank for the first time, you know, like life was good and

And the way I have ruined my life in the past week and a half. Did you crash and burn? No. No.

I just, I think I went back to the lifestyle I lived before 75 hard. Okay. Well, at least you're consistent. For, yeah. That's about all I can give. And I was just watching that episode and I was like, God, I love that girl. And I'm excited to be her again. I loved that. Like, it's a lapse in the time. I haven't seen you since you started drinking again hardly at all. So it's like, in my head, you're still sober. I mean, minus the glass of wine in your hand. Awesome for you. There is a glass of wine in my hand. But...

Oh my god Brooke I just can't even I'm like totally fine with you being a drinker as long as like everybody else suffers you know

Honestly, I don't really think I'm not at the point of my drinking yet where like everyone else is suffering. Like I've been good these past like these past two weekends where I drank and like did shit to everyone self like I'm the one who suffered. So we shot that episode and I immediately went to Vegas, which is just like and I had to go for Easter and I get it.

And it's beautiful Easter. The thing is, I love Omari's family and I love the holidays and everything that happens within that home is, you know, beautiful cooked food, family love, whole nine, you know, shit I never got as a child. But the second I put my foot on the pavement outside of their house,

every decision I make in that city is so sad. Yeah. Vegas is just hard. I feel like you can't go there and not kind of go crazy. Exactly. And I think after 75 days of being so good and then being immediately put in the Vegas environment. Yeah. You probably should have like dipped your toes in the water, maybe drank a little more around LA before you just jumped right to Vegas. Like right, right, right into Vegas. And Easter Sunday was great. I had an awful,

encounter with my ex-boyfriend in Las Vegas. Uh-oh. I spent the entire week before Coachella crying about it and then went directly into Coachella. Now I'm like, it's just nothing has been healthy. Wait, so what? Did you see him? Did you not see him? What's the drama? Okay. And I have to, here's the thing. I feel like you almost right now because it's like, I want to protect this person. Oh.

Oh, like I feel guilty like saying these bad things. A wise person once told me that it is not your job to protect another person who did unto themselves. Exactly right. Yeah. And I don't know why I feel so bad saying this because it is literally the truth. You know, let me just give you a little backstory. Okay.

Okay. And I might cry when I talk about it. I mean, it's fine. It happens to the best of us. I can make jokes now. I can make jokes now. So we break up. And you know how our breakup was? We've talked about this. Long distance didn't work. It was very amicable. Yeah, it was so easy. I'm pretty sure you just called him and you were like, maybe we should break up. And he was like, okay, chill. It was like I was ordering pizza, bro. Like it was like the easiest thing in the world. And we were so good. And his energy was very much unbearable.

I'm still going to marry you. I still want to be with you. Next time I see you, I can't wait to see you. It's up and it's stuck. We'll pick up where we left off, blah, blah, blah. Okay. So obviously like a month goes by after our breakup and it starts nearing the time that I'm going to Vegas. I'm not like trying to hook up with him or get back together or anything like that. I'm just excited to be like,

good and I miss him the last time I saw him was Valentine's Day we were together we were happy like you know what I mean so I'm excited to just hang and he's texting me like every day before Vegas being like three more days two more days one more day what should we do this weekend I can't wait to see you FaceTiming me whole night yeah so you're excited to go see it yeah the morning I'm about to leave for Vegas was the night before we had our canceled lunch dinner okay that was that was a time too we should definitely talk about that

And we really, we could, we could go into that right now if you want. Let's go into that before Vegas. I can circle back. The canceled lunch dinner was insane. That was, I guess I'm wrong. I did experience you drinking a little bit before you went to Vegas. Yeah. Because that...

You definitely were drinking that night. I was so, because that was my first like real night out after 75 hard, you know? I mean, you weren't horrible. I mean, you were pretty horrible. I got a little horrible after, but you left when I was like horrible. No, that's not true. Oh no. I told everyone, I was like, I'm not leaving her like this because I would never ever want her to leave me. No, not at Boa. I'm saying here at the house. In my house. I was still here for a long time too, but you disappeared. But no, but then by that time you were already like just with one person.

Being awful to them. Okay, but that's fine. I was just trying to make sure you weren't publicly embarrassing yourself. That's very true. I kept tabs on that. You and I have this like serious thing where we love, especially when it's like our successes, we love to like invite people we want to like see it. Oh, for sure. And people involved, you know, Pool Boy pulled up. Like we didn't even invite him. He was just in the same restaurant.

We're like, get in here. Yeah. Bryce Hall, same thing. Like all these people just started coming in like whole nine. So we just, it was very much a conglomerate cesspool of a lot of our different dramas and intricacies of our lives coming together. That was crazy. You just sounded like brilliant to me. Thank you. Cause I think I'm slurring. Yeah. If you think Tana Mongeau sounds smart and seriously, that's a you issue. You have a college. If I don't know the word, I don't know if you're misusing it. That's so true. And that's why you're my favorite person to talk to.

And so we just had a night that night. I won't even get into my actions that night. Like, I think that I'm really trying to stop saying things on this podcast. I know I'm going to cut out later in the edit. We have had an issue with this. I don't know if you guys have noticed in the past couple episodes, like all of a sudden I'll be talking about something. You're like, how?

How did she get on that topic? Or like vice versa. And it's because we keep having to cut stories that we're like a little scared to keep. Well, because we just we haven't done this in a while and I think we're excited to do it again. And we really sit down with the rogue shit that happens and air it out. And then it's like, wait, I literally can't. Yeah. We still have to live a personal life. Yeah. And like exactly people like us. So I don't know. I'm not as scared.

Really? As I used to be, like, I feel like the last time around. But I told Tana today, I got a couple comments on the last one that were like, Brooke's being so sus and secretive. She's trying to keep everyone's identities under wraps. I'm like, I literally told you guys I suck dick behind a dumpster. I know.

And like, what more do you want from me? Like, I'm not giving you enough personal information. And then of course, Tana posts him on her Snapchat face and all that. I was drunk still the next day. Oh yes. I was actually drunk still the next day. And I was like, this will be so funny to post pool boy three days later after Vegas. I was like, that was a bad idea. It's like fun and fresh for you. Cause it's like, Oh,

up with this guy I said I sucked his dick behind the dumpster I've said the most awful things I've done with pool boy that you can now trace back like yeah that's so true like pool boy he's a he's just collateral I saw him at Coachella actually I'll get into that later but I saw him at Coachella my whole interaction was like yo my bad about the podcast not even podcast podcasts like

Like he's a main character and we never even see him ever. Oh, I don't know. I see him. And then I just apologize and we move on. I think we're out of our having sex. It sounds like he's like such a main character in both of our lives. And I literally see him like twice a year. I'm not kidding. She was just at his house. Can it just as pushing it?

So yeah, I'm trying to not say things that I'm going to cut out. So I'm going to leave out the things I did after the canceled podcast that night because I think they'll end up being cut. Probably for the best. But I wake up the next day, you know, looking at my bed like, who's here? I'm just kidding. And I have to go to Vegas. And that morning my ex calls me and he's like, I can't wait to see you tonight. Like you land tonight, blah, blah, blah. Yay. And I'm just resending. I'm hungover wildly. So I'm like, let me take a shot. Wild. Again, point being that's, we don't know if, you know, she wasn't good there.

and i go to vegas and i land and we all were supposed to go out that night like his friend group and i like isabella like like hangs out with his best friend as well it's been like a double date sitch for a long time so we're like all trying to link up go to the club like whole nine and i'm texting him and i'm like hey i landed blah blah blah and early in the day he's like let me know like i'll pick you up like what time like we're that cool and then he just goes completely ghost the second i get in vegas that whole night and i'm like this is weird it's

It's hurting my feelings a little bit. It's a little strange. But also, my hangover from the canceled night before and then continuing through the day had finally hit. So I was like, it's fine. I'll stay in tonight. Tomorrow's Easter Sunday. I'll let everyone else go to the club. My ex isn't going to be there. Why would I go? Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely. Which is a terribly toxic mindset, but it's true. And I wake up the next day and it's Easter Sunday. It's so sweet, whatever. And I'm vibing Easter baskets all night. My ex texts me. He says, sorry, I fell asleep last night, blah, blah, blah.

don't believe it first of all second of all happy easter sunday i'm about to wrap up with my family let's link up and we always would link up on holidays like he would come over to amari's house and like say hi to like my family you know what i mean like whole nine like that's kind of what i expected the vibe to be at least from like how he said whatever i respond like an hour and a half later i'm like perfect like let me know when you're done like come by no response for like six hours

And I'm like, this is weird. I'm also leaving. I'm also leaving the next day. You know, so it's like minimal time. And it's so weird if we had just broken up. And then the next time I'm in Vegas, you don't like make the time to see me. Like it like weirded me out, you know, hours and hours go by. And finally I text him. I'm like, OK, like word. Like I'm going to go do shit with my friends then. Like if you're not going to answer, whatever. He FaceTimes me in his bed and he's like, sorry, I just woke up from a nap. Come link up with me. I don't like how many times he said link.

I don't even I might that might be like a team Bryce on God thing like I where I'm just saying the word link too much like the same same energy which is feels very impersonal like if my anyone I physically dated yeah I don't let's link I don't think I would think I would die I don't think those were like his specific okay that's good he's like I just woke up from an app let's do something night blah blah blah so I get

Because I'm like so I'm like you know I have to look so good Spend hours getting ready whatever Not answering me again His best friend texts Ashley Because Ashley was kind of vibing with his best friend And was like hey Sends a photo of my ex and him So he's with Like

Like they're all best friends. Yeah. Sends a photo of my ex with him and was like, hey, Ashley, come hang out. Like Tana's ex is here. Like let's all link. Let's all hang out. And I'm like, did I really just catch a third party invite? Yeah. And that's the worst. You never want to go if like that person in particular didn't invite you. 100%. And it's just like, it's so weird how you've been like so excited to see me. And then the second I get there, it's like.

weird you know yeah and all of a sudden you're overthinking probably like do i like does he want me there yeah and then so i'm like hitting all my friends i'm being like do i even go like does he want me there what do i do and of course my friends like go go and like i love his friends so i was like i'll just go like i'll just whatever but in my head the entire and it's an like it's like an hour car ride like basically his entire friend group is in like summerlin in las vegas and we're in henderson which means it takes it's across the city the strip is in the middle

Like it takes so fucking long to get there. It's not my side of town. I'm only going to like see this man. We drive like 55 minutes to his side of town, to his friend's house for my third party invite to go see him to like whatever. You know what I mean? And the whole car ride. I'm like, should I even be doing this? This is ridiculous. But you've said you wanted to. And I want to talk like I want to. Yeah.

You know, whatever. I get there and I see him and we're drinking and he's like not really drinking and also every day of 75 Hard, he's like day 76 with me, like with me, make promise babe, like blah, blah, blah, promise you're drinking with me. So then the second I see you, you don't want to drink that much with me and you're being kind of like,

weird and his energy is just weird and off like he keeps like pretending to like fake fight me and shit and he's like you can tell he's like a little annoyed and then he has this bright idea that we all should go gamble at this casino called the Red Rock in Vegas I don't go to the Red Rock I'm

I'm not a Summerlin girl. I'm a Henderson girl. I go to Green Valley Parkway or I go to the Strip. I go to the Palms. I go wherever. I have been to the Red Rock like four times. I don't go there. I can't stress it enough that I don't go there. And he's like, let's go.

So my ex wants to go gamble at the Red Rock and it's like 3 a.m. at this point as well. And I'm like, OK, I'm only going there to see you. Right. So then everyone piles into this one car and it's just me and my ex standing in the street and we're like, OK, we're not going to pile on this car. So we order an SUV and it's just us two. We get in the SUV. We're like playing old songs. He's like, I miss you. I love you. How are you? I miss you. It's this whole moment. I cry. I cry. Maybe I'm drunk.

But I cry nonetheless, you know, I'm just I'm just saying and in the car. He's like, let's hang out later. Let's actually talk later. I missed you like I want to catch up, you know, and I'm like happy because I'm like, okay, then I can go home later. Like did you mean like the next day or no like to 6 a.m. But I'm like he's like I have an early morning but like I want to talk to you. I know you leave tomorrow and in my head. I'm like, this is good. I came here obviously for Easter Sunday, but

But we broke up over the phone. The last time I was here was for Valentine's Day and we were like perfectly happy. I'm excited. Yeah, you need like some sense of like closure. And like, you know what I mean? You can still do your whole like I'm going to marry you a bit, but like at least we're on cool terms and we can hang out and you want to. And like even though you suck the whole weekend, like whatever, blah, blah, blah. So I'm going to the Red Rock for you and then we're going to hang out after, right? I get to the Red Rock.

And we're gambling And then this is just Where the dumb decisions Come in I probably blow Like a thousand dollars Just like Off rip at the table Ridiculous Like I'm just being dumb But I'm like I want to gamble Next to my ex Who's like Spending money And I want to like Keep up And like You know what I mean I'm not going to ask him For money Because we're not dating Like to gamble So I'm just going to like Match his energy Like whatever We're vibing He's like I'm excited To hang out later He's talking to me He's being like Do I come to Coachella Like

Blah, blah, blah. And it's exciting me because I'm like, I missed you. Like, it's not like we broke up because you suck. Yeah, that's it's a different kind of breakup because you didn't really want to break up. It was just like, how are you going to make it work? Exactly. So I'm like excited. We could still be friends and like hang out and whatever. We're gambling. I get up and I'm like, I'm going to go to the bathroom. Right. I go to the bathroom. Did he escape? Ten minutes in the bathroom. Ten minutes. However fucking long. Oh.

In the bathroom. I come back out with Ashley Schwann. She went with me. All of his friends are there. Standing there in a circle like this at me. He left at.

At the Red Rock. He left. And all of his friends have no explanation. They're like, we have no idea why he left. We have no idea. He just stormed out of here. He just ran out. Blah, blah, blah. I don't know why. All of his friends are being like, he's such a fucking asshole. Like, I'm so sorry. Like, why the fuck would he do that? Like, I don't know why he did that. There's no explanation. He just left. Everyone's blowing him up. He's not answering at all. I tried to text. Phone's off.

shut left me at the red rock and shut his phone off horrible that's really horrible do you think he like literally the second she got in the bathroom or like the second he got in the bathroom he ran or do you think that he waited a few minutes and then he was like hmm I won I have never had so many fucked up things happen to me that I've aired out on the canceled podcast I have never been like left at the blank let the red rock

You're kidding me. Oh my, I start scream crying. In the Red Rock, I start, obviously I'm fucked up. Rightfully so. It's 5 a.m. I don't want to be there. His friends are all around me. You never wanted to be there. I never wanted to be there. His friends are all around me. It's so goddamn embarrassing in my opinion. It's ridiculous. I would have been in bed asleep. Well, because now you're sobbing at the Red Rock and all his friends can see you. Wait, sorry. I know.

I know. So I just leave. I leave sobbing tail between my legs. My friends take me. I go home, whatever. I text him. I say, you're dead to me. I literally, I wish you the fucking worst. You're dead to me. Blah, blah, blah. Doesn't deliver. Obviously his phone's off. I wake up the next day to a novella three part series on how he's not sure what this is anymore because I can't stop posting this boy on my Snapchat about how you don't leave at the Red Rock. Don't even sit there and justify that. It's

It's so fine if you feel that way Communicate that to me Even don't Don't count down me Like it's New Year's Eve Three more days Two more days One more day Tell me you're fucking mad Forever ago Or that you don't want to be with me Or that you don't want to be cool with me Forever ago Don't invite me to like hang out and talk And have closure and be cool That night Yeah I agree I think that you should have I think you should have led with that Because I mean Devil's advocate Listen I'm always in your corner I'm always going to be on your team No one should be left at the Red Rock No one should be

But I will say like before you guys had even broken up, you were talking about being single on podcasts and stuff. And then now you have like, I'm not saying we should be together. I know, but I'm just, I'm just saying like maybe from his, his end, he was like, she kind of played me. I'm going to,

I'm going to do a little in a reverse. And little does he know, I'm just a codependent piece of shit, you know? I understand completely the frustration, like the things he was saying in his message were like valid, you know? But be consistent. If you're mad about that and you're already like feeling some type of way about it, lead with that. Don't get all the way to the red rock before you decide that that's a deal breaker. And don't make me drive all the way to some... I guess he didn't make me drive all the way to some... I actually stalked him down there. But like, don't... You understand what I'm trying to say. I totally do. He was completely in the wrong and you did nothing. I'm...

I'm not saying that. No, I'm serious. It was just the way it was handled. And whatever. I don't even know. So I sobbed the whole day. So did you like, would you respond like, it's nothing with the guy on Snapchat or what? No, no. I was just like, I feel you completely. But there's no fucking way in the world you should handle that. Like a fucking child like that. Like you're awful. That's so embarrassing. And then he's like, you don't deserve this, Jenna. I love you. I still want to marry you.

Suck my fucking dick. Sent me a country song like two nights ago all about like the love of his life. I was like, you left me at the Red Rock. You left me at the Red Rock. It's really bad. Yeah, so that was the start. What was the country song? The country song was. I'm really eager to know. Do you remember when the guy sent me a B.O.B. song? Yeah. Dude. I'm not fucking kidding. A man sent me a song one time and said that this reminds me of you and it was a B.O.B. song. And this was a month ago. Oh.

She played it. It was the most embarrassing. It was such a sweet song. It was In Case You Didn't Know by Brett Young. That's cute. In case you didn't know. It's not cute when you got left at the Red Rock. Baby, I'm crazy about you.

At all. I just can't even actually believe it. Yeah, I don't think I would handle being left at the Red Rock very well either. I really think that you were completely justified in your reaction. I think maybe that's just the closure you needed. He's just, he's, you know. Yeah. And now I'm going to Vegas this Saturday. I don't think you're ready to go back there. I don't think you should be going there again. I know. I'm just in my watching the fights era. I want to go to Ryan Garcia's fight. I'm so embarrassing. Seriously, stop. I know, I know.

But I'm debating and he won't see this because he doesn't use social media. So I can. Do you ever like pre-plan being a psycho cunt? Or is it just me? I do. I do. For sure. Like I put on my Google Cal like this Wednesday at three. Premeditated. Yeah. Like this Wednesday at three, I'm going to be a fucking psycho bitch. When I get to Vegas, I'm going to text him and be like, you know, I can't wait to see you. Meet me here for drinks, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to send him. Have him meet you at the Red Rock. I'm going to send him the Red Rock and I'm going to have him come.

Not going to show up Because I will Until I get comeuppance Until I get Like until I just I won't be okay That's the only way To even the score 100% He has to meet me At the Red Rock And I have to not come And then all will be right No I think I think you show up And then leave That's the That's what you do

Right. Oh, they show up, give him like false hope. Maybe give him a little smooch, go to the bathroom and then just never come back. Either way, something like that will happen if I go to Vegas just because I'm insane. You know what I mean? I just you can't just leave me at the Red Rock and think I'm not going to like premeditate some shit. That is horrible. I was like, I mean, that is pretty bad. I don't know why I pictured something so much worse the way that you were reacting to it, because you really were sobbing the whole time.

Like on a jet sobbing. Well, I think it's because I never really cried about like our breakup. Like I don't even I texted you this the other day. I don't think I've ever seen you cry, which I think is just Brooke. I get drunk. I cry all you've seen me cry. I don't I've never seen it. I don't think every just because I'm always crying. I just assume that everyone should be crying. You should only care about yourself. No, I don't remember what I cried.

Well, I can't think of a time that you've like really just like gotten sad and cried. I could, I could think of times that you've like left yourself into like a little bit of a tear. Chris Miles. And you never saw me cry. That's I don't, I don't count like you're like belligerent, like self where you can't speak words and you're just like,

I guess that's true. It's more rare that I cry that's, like, for real. I've never seen you, like, just get, like, choked up talking about something. I do that. I just compartmentalize my emotions very weird. Like, I'll go home and cry. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're a lot better about that, for sure. I think I just never really, like, processed our breakup because it was so nice. And I'd never, like, in all the time I've known him, I'd never seen him capable to be that type of person to, like, leave me at the Red Rock. That's the worst when, like, curtain comes down and all of a sudden they're just, like, not the super nice person because...

they're not yeah dating you anymore and i could maybe yeah and i can maybe write it off as like always being like an emotional little boy and like just handled it wrong but still i'd never seen him in that light so i was very much like shook by it all week if that makes sense yeah i understand and then we had to come home and prepare for coachella which is dark oh no oh yeah i didn't go this is my first year in like five years not going and i was so afraid of having FOMO

And then I didn't. Which is, I, yeah, I would say like if I was watching Coachella from an outsider standpoint, I would have had no FOMO. I'm so jealous of you. I decided last year like in full, like I made a full written mental decision with myself. Like I'm never going there again. Mm.

And then like work opportunities happen to where there's, I'm not Jeff Bezos. There's a price to get me at Coachella and it happened. So I was like, okay, I'll go. And that's the thing all year this year. I'm just like praying that there's like next year, there's no price to get me there because my entire demeanor this weekend was like, I don't want to be here. Yeah. I have a feeling they're going to have to like do a major rebrand or something. Cause I think they're going to, they're going to have a couple like, um,

flop years where people just don't want to go at all well people were speculating that that's even kind of why the lineup this year was like a little more like Bjork and like Blackpink and like Bad Bunny like a little more like people would that draw in different audiences from okay because yeah because they're not trying to appeal to like like to sell more tickets though because since like COVID it's like gone down yeah I just kept hearing that dude that's true I'm on Blackpink talk and I'm not kidding

i can't that's that actually i do did have fomo about that because i feel like mario i'm like they are the most they're everything they are everything you missed them huh do you know that the only set i saw at all of coachella was frank ocean that had to be disappointed like i almost saw metro boomin which according to everyone was like one of the best sets of the weekend i was there front row artist like ready to watch it and my toes hurt so i left

I'm really weird with foot pain. I can do a lot of pain, but if my feet hurt, I'm out. Yeah, I understand that, but you got to be careful. These girls are getting canceled for complaining about Coachella. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Fucking cry me a river. This was like my ninth Coachella. I like...

I'm obviously grateful to be there and I'm sitting here like bitching about it. Like it's cool and I had a lot of amazing moments and like it's so fun and I was with like all my best friends so I had a great time. Coachella, even when it was like five years ago, it's so different now. And I like...

I've always been like the influencer Olympics, you know, like people always say that. And like people always say it's like L.A. in the desert and whatever. But like now it's just that to the point that there's nothing else. But I don't agree with that. I think that I mean, that's how I felt about it last year. And I left Coachella last year thinking like I just stood at the VIP bar for three years.

Days straight And I could have just Gone to an LA party And had the same experience And I hated that At any point I could have chosen To go you know To any set With any of Yeah that was the problem But in years past I'd always gone with Like my friends from college And stuff And it wasn't the Influencer scene and stuff And that was when Coachella was most valuable To me Because it was so fun To like actually

Actually go see like All the artists that we loved And like be with our friends And stuff But now It's just not that And I mean all my friends Are influencers I fully agree with that Like I had so much more fun Going to Coachella's When I could just Bop around with my friends And see all the sets I also think that like I would have so much more fun Not in Tana Mongeau's body Which is I know is like

No that isn't I mean it's a really important factor Because it's not something you can really avoid It's not like you can just randomly like jump into the do lab And like hope that no one Yeah and obviously again wipe your tears with your Like I'm not bitching about it like that I'm just saying like I'm taking mushrooms And like Molly and shit trying to like vibe out And be a weirdo like licking the grass And then someone's like filming me for their TikTok And I have to be like yes slay Like if I could just actually be a fucking

and like bop around it. I know I would have so much more fun than like I do. And I have to understand that I am just like a participant in the Influencer Olympics. And that's kind of my role there. Yeah. We were talking about this on the last podcast, but standing at the VIP bar and someone's coming up to me like, how's your merch doing? Like, do you need a new merch provider? Like, I'm on Molly. Like literally, this is not a business. Yeah.

Yeah, it's 100%. But even just beyond that, I feel 80. Like my bones don't have it in me. My feet don't have it. Like I can't. Well, I think it's your choice of shoes. I do think it's your choice of shoes. I wore sneakers and boots. Like I just like I need to wear things. I need to wear like the running shoe I wear to the gym every week. I need to wear something. You need to wear like some Toms or something. Sincerely. Like what happened to Toms? Don't they like help a kidney? Yeah. One pair to you. One pair to Marianne.

I was, I would have had like bobs. I was, that's, you literally just read my mind. Like in school, do you remember growing up and your friends had like toms and bobs and you had like uggs and, or, or bear paws. Or toms and uggs and you had bobs and bear paws. Yeah. Like,

I would never even have vans I would have like Walmart vans Like do you know what I mean Oh my god like a pair of vans They might as well bought me a fucking golden lottery ticket Yeah I was an only child to like splurge Who did I just see wearing Tom's the other day I think Zac Efron I kind of believe that

You would be a Tom's wearer. I appreciate Coachella for what it is, but I think it's become, at least from the influencer side, so much of just like a show and no longer like people actually having fun. We're going to talk about Lauren Gray made this TikTok. I, for some reason, just like assumed that this was common ass public knowledge. Yeah, I did too, but it's not. I guess maybe because we see it all the time, but basically her TikTok, she was just saying like half the influencers that you're watching and like being jealous of that are going to Coachella.

Are not going to Coachella They do not have wristbands They do not go to the festival And they just take photos And they're in the desert And like you think They're at Coachella And they're not Yeah they drive down To Palm Springs They like bum it On an air mattress Which those people Might be having A better experience Than the people Who are actually At the festival Who knows But it is kind of I find that insane though Like I just To me that's not worth it Like the whole fun Of it all Really

Is to three day Like 12 concerts a day It's really fun If you do it like that But people have always done that For even just like Since the beginning of time Of me going to Coachella I remember that people Drive down to Palm Springs And they just take photos And videos and shit Like they're going to Coachella Well you could also go to the parties And stuff Yeah So I get that But

Yeah, and they just, like, pretend like they're going for maximum clout possible. And it's always been just, like, a funny joke that you, like, say within your friends. I can't lie. You kind of make fun of the people who do that. Like, not because it's like, oh, you're poor. You can't afford a Coachella wristband. More so, like, I can't believe you drove. You care so much to show people that you're a Coachella that you'll, like, fake it. Yeah, that you'll drive. Exactly. That you'll, like, drive down. But I never realized that no one has, like, publicly talked about that. And I thought Lauren Gray was a goat for, like, doing that. Yeah. Because it really is, like...

It's so true how often that happens. Yeah. I feel like I would do Coachella again, but if I were to do it again, I would probably go with like randoms, like friends from home or like not random, but like even just beyond me sincerely feeling like it's the influencer Olympics. I don't think my body has it like made out for me anymore. Like even just the dust I'm still hacking. No, you don't. You don't really give me like agile wants to be at a festival for 12 hours. Exactly. Like, and I'm like, it's three days later. I'm like,

like hawking up like loogies of dust. Originally, I used to get to Coachella at like noon. And I would be there until it ended. Like that's insane.

I would that would kill me now for sure. Like my my calves or something. I can't even go to the grow for that long. Like at all. I can't stand for that long. I kept having to just like sit and sit and sit and sit. Day three, I was about to pay Ty a thousand dollars to switch shoes with me. I told him I would. We need to work on your financial decision making. I mean, I guess I don't get to talk. We know what happened with Marianne. Yeah. How are you doing? I'm doing a lot better, everybody. I realized last episode that I made it sound like I like really am struggling, but I'm not really convincing. Yeah.

her gofundme is below i had a period of time where i didn't work very much because i was going through it a bit and that caught up with me several months later so that was the episode that i was in that's when marianne had a little bit of a hiccup but now she's taking care of her and her family and so we're thirty dollars a month i saw a reddit thread tana knows right now i'm obsessed with reddit i don't even know if i should say that they don't want the people to know that i see what they're saying on reddit but there is a reddit thread where everyone's like i think she

Brooke might be a sugar baby. Like there's no way she could afford her lifestyle. She doesn't do any brand deals. I'm like, first of all, tell Natalie that. Yeah. No, you do a lot of brand deals. You, I feel like I spend at least once a week, like envious of a brand deal you got that I like could never get. Cause I'm not brand safe enough. I don't think that's true, but the Reddit threads are wild though, but it's so fun to see like what, a lot of, a lot of things on Reddit about all of us are very correct, which is fun.

fun i'm worried i'm about to be i posted a photo today what was it i really shouldn't have okay well here's the thing i show up to coachella i'm trying to be a little more low-key with my fits this year i'm trying to just not care as much like just like whatever and my day one fit i was super stoked on and it is very basic like i know it's a basic ass fit and you wore the same outfit as yeah like it was a little diesel denim fit and i was like stoked on whatever and i show up and i'm walking around i'm like

wow i'm kind of like no one else is wearing diesel as much as i thought at least it's like the it brand right now like no one has like full diesel logos like i'm i'm doing good i'm stoked on this like no one's really wearing it i'm at the vip bar the infamous vip bar that everyone spends all of their coachella at and i turn around and it's just james charles in the exact same outfit literally like you guys might have what might as like or might as well have might as well have been a couple

Fully head to toe matching with James Charles. And it looks like you're like your denim look with Jake. And you know, that was unnecessary and mean. Sorry. But no.

it did two years ago too i would have been so fucking pissed like fucking so pissed like go walk in the corner you would have had to go home and face the no one i would have like traded outfits with someone probably like i was i would have been i was but what are the odds like i'm not matching anyone else and i'm just it's hilarious and my whole twitter too all my instagram tag like the first thing i noticed i saw your thing the second he posted i go

There's no fucking way they're wearing the same outfit. It's hilarious. And it's just like the odds of it all as well. Like I almost wore that day three, you know, like just same time, same everything. I'm glad you were at day one because I saw some other people wearing it day two. So it's like happy. It looked like they copied you. That's good. Thank you. Obviously now James and I are like, we're civil or we're chill. And I...

I talked about that on a podcast where I said something and then one of the tea spill pages on YouTube made this whole fucking video like spill sesh probably one of those like saying like Tana's such a fucking sheep like everything she says and it sucks those tea spill videos the way they work because it's like whatever they say in the video all the comments are going to like identically match specifically those so it's just all these comments like

a friend to all is a friend to none, a friend to this. As I'm like very much, I ride for my friends and I hate the people who wrong them. So it just like annoyed me that that was kind of the, what people took away from that. When in reality, all I was ever saying is like, I spent a lot of time really harboring a lot of hatred for this person and being so

angry about our falling out and being so angry about who I felt like this person was at the time that I walked out of their life. And then obviously, let's say I moved to Utah or James moved to Utah or some shit like that. Like, I would have been able to just be like, okay, I fucking hate him, whatever. Like, we're in the same

We see each other and have a lot of the same friends. And James is like, has become in the past, like six months to a year, like pretty close with like the people that I'm close with. And so it started to kind of be like, Oh my God, Amari, what are you doing today? I'm going to James's. Oh my God. It's like divorced parents. Can you glam me? Oh, I'm going to, I'm going to go paint James's painting. Uh, like nothing in specifics, but our shit just started like running very similarly to where I would see him all

all the time or like Paris Hilton she loves me she also loves James so anything Paris does like he's you know it just like started kind of happening like that so eventually we were at a Paris thing and he like pulled me aside and we had this whole convo and like we're cool now and I hate that people take that and like

like run with it so crazy it's just like sometimes it's nice to be civil with someone that you once like harbored so much hatred for I don't like the concept of like you have to stick to one thing that you've said for like the rest of your life like you you did feel that way in the moment and that was like a very real falling out that you guys had and stuff but that's not to say that like you can't eventually be like civil with one another I don't think that that's right especially like

When it does affect the people around you, you guys share so many of the same friends. And I think I was so angry for so long and I also like very much only saw one side. I never gave James a chance to, I guess, humanize himself or learn more details or whatever. I still don't know the whole situation. I'm not going to be the person to like whatever, but I can say like,

At least when I see him now, the few words that we say or the things I hear from my friends, I do think he's grown a lot as a human being from the person I once ended my friendship with and hated so much. I think I have as well. Like just time has gone on. So now it can be like, hey, hey. Yeah. And like we agree with that. I don't think that's so crazy, but I get where you would see or you'd be worried that people are going to have a negative reaction to it. I feel like. Yeah. Rightfully so. Whatever. But.

It's I mean At the end of the day It's your business It's your relationships I think it's just being like Cool with someone Is a good thing Yeah that's not to say You're gonna be at his house Hey sister every day No no no Just like when I see him It's not like we have to Avoid each other across the room And that's a grown thing For you to do too It's not You don't wanna At this age

We should not be going to parties and having to like stay in the opposite side of the house. I feel too like old for all of that and feel like we are too old. And obviously even when I saw him at Coachella, I was like, oh my God, we're matching. Ha ha, funny. Let's take a photo. Fuck this. Like it was like a decent conversation, you know, like you can, when you see someone in such a small space,

percentile like that like it can just be like funny haha goodbye you know yeah and i think that's a good thing i haven't seen anything negative about it on reddit so far and i'm pretty on top of it so i love your reddit obsession right now so it's probably gonna be so bad for me because it is like it's very horrible it's like no one has anything nice to say on reddit yeah you're obsessed with the side of reddit that's like talking about you no not about me well you and your world well it's about like all these people i know and it's it's funny because it's

a lot of it is like people speculating about stories I know about. And so it's funny to see like what people's assumptions are. Like when I really know like the tea, you know what I mean? Like if there's a breakup that happened that I know what happened, like it's so fun for me to see like what's going on. Absolutely. And like with my own breakup too, like people were speculating and it's like, God, you guys are like, honestly, right.

Like it's so fun. Like it, and people put so much time into it. They do. Speaking of a breakup that happened that people are speculating about that has to kind of do with Coachella, Sean and Camila Cabello back together, spotted kissing. So I didn't know that Jeff and Sean Mendez were like bros.

like i didn't jeff would always say that like oh yeah like sean's my friend and i'd be like haha you're so because everything's just like a bit with us i never like yeah read too much into things and i know they go to the same gym and like say hi and shit but we're standing at the vip bar i'm like talking to jeff and whatever and then i start talking to someone else i think it was pool boy and sean just approaches jeff and they have like a 30 minute conversation and i'm standing there just staring at this happen and i'm like

How strange. How strange. How hot. Honestly, how hot of Jeff. How hot of just everything. Everyone involved. That's hot. That's iconic and hot. And I just couldn't take my eyes away from it. And then finally, I noticed Camilla's just standing there. Arms wrapped around Sean's arm.

They I love that they weren't even trying to hide it. See, I'm all for I mean, not not myself personally, but I love to see like exes get back together and just give no fucks about what anyone else thinks. 100 percent. Like just roaming around like doing their thing. And, you know, also like again, I feel like that they're not in the artist section. That's very much bar like VIP bars. That's very much like influencer networking central. Like you are probably going to get paparazzi here and fans are probably going to take like you don't give a fuck.

Well, did you see Camila respond to, I think it was Hollywood Fix guy? He says, are you guys back together? She goes, yeah. Swear. She goes, yeah. Me drunk with someone that I'm not back together with at all. And then she like passes the Uber and Sean's like, come on.

Yo, I never want to be like she's just like me for real, but like me. No, it is. I wonder if Sabrina's like sick. Oh, yeah. Because Shawn Mendes was talking to Sabrina. Sabrina Carpenter. No. Yeah. I saw them together at a friend's birthday party recently and they seemed pretty together to me.

is she sick i'd be sick i mean maybe she was just having fun like she's hot she could date whoever she wants i don't think she really is too impressed about it just been like a hookup moment i got invited to her show this week serena carpenter she's so like a little dinner i kind of want to go i'm not sure the pornhub awards are that night i love the pornhub awards i've never been there it's the most fun night ever i love the pornhub awards so much because it's like

If a regular award show could be just unhinged as fuck. Like everyone there just doesn't give a fuck in the after parties and everyone's having sex. I would feel like so like ugly or like for sure. It's like the hottest girls in the world. And just like the most like confident. Like I just I don't know if I would belong there, but it would be fun. Yeah.

so brooke you sent me a tiktok today basically it's just this girl the sound is like you got to get on your zoom every day at 10 a.m you got to get on your zoom and it's like telling tana that she has responsibilities after coachella because you're so known for your fashion reviews after coachella which is it's so crazy that those ended up being one of the like pivotal videos of my career like the 10 millions you know like the ones that like people love seeing so much because it's like

Who the fuck is Tana Mongeau to review fashion? I think that's why it's so fun. And some of my biggest scandals like to date. The Nina Dobrev one. Nina Dobrev. I actually want to start off this segment apologizing once again to Nina Dobrev. I filmed a video with James Charles where we reviewed Coachella fashion and I was like cooking Nina Dobrev's outfit. And to this day, I get tweets of people being like. Didn't you say like who's Nina or something like along those lines? I probably said so many off.

things I remember I said something about Zoe Kravitz I was like who is that people are like literally you're Tana Mongeau like who are you to like say that about and it's such a good point yeah like it's you wore a dollar bill I wore a dollar bill insert pic and a red ball gown to the Oscars

Something like that. Needless to say, even though who is Tana Mongeau to review Coachella fashion, the people have asked me to come back and deliver my duty. And obviously Brooke is joining me. We decided it'd be a perfect thing for canceled. Ari's pretty known over here for reviewing fashion with me. Specifically his negative takes on...

Supposedly, I'm just a very negative person that people invite me on their podcast to be negative towards. No, you're here to review fashion. You're here because you're the most honest out of all of us. I feel like I'll be like, oh, I think she looks cute. And you'll be like, she looks fucking horrible. If she looks horrible only. Yeah, normally they always do. Let's start with Charli D'Amelio. I'm going to go with her. She never disappoints me. I wish we would have had the moment that she had the blonde hair. I think she killed it in front of Revolve with Landon. They looked hotter than I think ever.

and fucking MGK. And if you have something to beef with me about, let's beef. Go. OK, I think Charlie looks amazing. But not in this. Sorry. Oh, is this this is what day one or what? I don't

know but i'm talking about so we're just gonna jump into reviewing fashion honestly this was charlie's day one fit i liked this because i feel like it gives innocent charlie domilio vibes yeah it gives how old is she like she's like 19 that's what i wore to coachella well i mean it's definitely not what i wore when i was 19 but you know it's expensive it's on brand it's it's wholesome it's sweet it's innocent it's nice i love her she's perfect she looks gorgeous wrong

She looks gorgeous. The long black hair. Like, she looks amazing. And it's sweet. I would give it an 8.5 out of 10. I'm giving her a 10 out of 10 because all her fits was amazing. Did you see her one at Revolve? I haven't seen it. What do you give this? I give this an 8 out of 10 as well. This was her next fit. I appreciate the daringness of the blonde wig. Like, I appreciate a wig. I have questions. So, we just saw the last one. Do you think that was extensions in her hair? Like, the...

She did nothing wrong. No, I'm asking you. It has to be extensions in order. But I'm saying like, do you think they took that heavy? Because I'm wondering like, did she have to face tune this wig in? No, I saw her. I saw her in person. I think in order to put a wig on, you can't have 24 inch extensions. That's what I was wondering. Take them out. So I'm assuming they were clipping or she had a crazy hair team taking out like beat in, take in whatever sleep.

Just to like slick her shit and give her a wig. Well, she's eating with the blonde. I love that for her. But this is like such a funny example of like, you know, the joke that it's like if Dixie does it, Charlie's going to do it too. Like Dixie has the platinum blonde hair. So Charlie had to step out with the platinum blonde hair. Love you, Charlie. So much. Literally so much. I love the belt. Belt. Yeah.

I think she looks flawless. Even if Charli D'Amelio literally wore like a paper bag, like I could never, I'd be like, she ate up that paper bag. Because I'd be like, how dare you? That's perfect angel. Like there's something about her that's so exempt from the rule for me that I can't criticize anything she does because she's so perfect. Okay, well then we need to get to someone we can criticize because honestly, love you. We can't be too nice. I thought it was great. Zoe.

Fish. Incredible. She's in my Coachella best dress. I don't mean to like give it away immediately off rip, but my Coachella best dress in my head are Dixie D'Amelio and Zoe. Well, that you just gave it away off rip. I did. I think she's just killing it in general. I think anyone that's like, I think she's just changing the game for all the regular degular influencers. Like, I feel like she's turning into someone like way more lit. I don't know. Her fits are getting so crazy. To be honest with you. She's giving like,

Like, fashion girly on TikTok. I feel that. Even, like, today I was tweeting asking, like, who should review... Whose fashion should I review? And all the responses were, like, Zoe. And normally when I ask things like that, people don't always say that. Like, I feel like she's really putting her fashion foot forward. And you could tell, like, she, like, did, like, half of it by herself. Like, she put all the effort into it by herself. Do we have her other three fits, too? Like, they all were just...

And look at that face. And look at that waist. Face and waist and face and waist. I think a lot of people were trying to give a different theme every single day. Do you know what I mean? Like, I was at least. Like, I was like, oh, I want to be denim girl this day. And then I want to be, like, cutie cargo girl this day. And then maybe I want to do cowboy chic here. I think those all run in the same. But they're different. Like, one was, like, denim street wear. The next was, like, leather cowboy. Like, she very much gave the same vibe.

Across three But different ways I feel like this is The most common aesthetic I saw this year And it kind of brought me back To like A few years prior I feel like that was like 2018 vibes Was like this exactly Like very Like the belts And the crochet Yeah Crochet I saw your TikTok about that I agree Because this I wore almost like

I mean, obviously I did not look like this at Coachella in 2018, but like that was the vibe I was on. Like turquoise, white, like very like accessorized. Like that was the vibe. For me, it's nice to have that back. Yeah. I think so too. That's what happens. You cycle through and it comes back.

Because there were the years where it was like, oh my God, you need like 3D, like Tomb Raider looks. I'm really glad we got out of like the space cowboy era of Coachella. Yeah, like I like seeing like Coachella desert cowgirl chic a lot. Like I think it's nice. And it's like, it's more timeless because that's how Coachella is always, but like that's, it's always going to make sense for Coachella. Yeah.

See, like she did the same aesthetic across it and they like all match so well to me. It's giving what Kendall Jenner wish she would have done if she actually did it. Yeah. I don't know. I think she's like honestly just I think she's killing it in general. I think every single fit. I feel like she gave what Coachella was supposed to give, though I've never been there. I feel like this is what I would envision Coachella would be. But like now, like, I don't know what I would wear is probably like a chrome hearts hoodie and like some, you know, chrome denim.

Thanks for sharing. I don't know. I'm saying it's so different. I feel like she killed it. I feel like she like, you know. She made me hate my outfits for sure. Yeah, for sure. She made me like. No, I think you killed it. You killed it. You were in my top 15. 16. Kylie. Okay. Why are her legs off? No, no, no. I screenshot of this and I don't see anyone's legs. I'm in like the weird beta where you don't see people's legs. I have been for like three years. Scared me a little. That sucks.

I feel like we have to put Kylie and Hailey and Kendall in the same category that they, and I love this. I'm going to go on a whole tangent about it. Don't put Kylie in the same category as Hailey when Hailey looked like she was going to a fucking street performance in Tennessee when Kylie looks like a million bajillion dollars.

In Justin Bieber's tour bus. Thank you. I'm saying I like that Kylie, Hailey, and Kendall kind of were like too cool for Coachella. Like their fits could have been worn to like Bootsy Bellos. Vons. Yeah. I saw a lot of TikToks about this, so tell me how you feel. But I mean like they're setting themselves apart from the influencers by literally no longer trying. They have to do that because it gets like you do have to separate. I feel like influencer is very costumey. I mean, not so much this year, but like.

It's like it almost gets worse every year. You have to come like to next year. It's going to be like straight up pajamas if you're a real celebrity because you have to make sure everybody knows you do not care as much as other people. It's another Tuesday. Exactly. And I respected that energy and liked it. I love this top under her shit. But I feel like it could be done differently. Like I think Emma did it perfectly. Like Emma did it in a way that like it was still an outfit that she couldn't wear to her local grocery store, which I don't know if I agree with that with Kylie. Is that you guys downplaying her insane fucking phenomenal white leather outfit? Yeah.

I'm just embarrassed by the both of you

It's honestly insane. You can't compare her look to fucking Hailey's. Hailey wore a diesel buckle and thought she was killing it. Was it? She's wearing some, you know, insane top. Probably from Margiela. Something giving mummy. And I know someone wore that to the mat. And then the insane leather. Look at her face. Look at her hair. You're right. Kylie eats over everyone. I agree. So now we have Hailey. She looks like you on a regular Tuesday filming Jeff FM. I love it.

I love her. I literally love her outfit. You look like shit. I love it. Okay. I get plagued by the thing and I'm going to ask you guys both this. If that wasn't Hailey Bieber, what would you think of it? Like if it was like a girl who was a five. I think she was Tana Mongeau at We Hope Bistro. Because I love like that's

My favorite vibe is like you just didn't care about it, but she has the good jewelry. She's bare like her makeup is like she just looks great. I agree with you, but I understand where he's coming from that we're like out of touch to be gassing it. Maybe she's wearing literally fucking Brandy Melville hoodie white thing from. I don't know. I feel like, you know, I talked to him like shit. I don't agree at all. I agree with Ari that it might be taking the regular thing a little.

little well Kendall did the same thing no Kendall wore a t-shirt Kendall looked horrible yeah I mean it's definitely like president of the the regular I'm too cool for this like type of fit I I don't hate it I think being too cool for Coachella with your fits right now is like my obsession I think if we're talking too far I think we talk about Kendall but I think I think Haley was fine listen she had a cowboy boot on this girl couldn't even put a chrome fucking hoodie on listen it's brandy Melville you need to relax with the chrome hoodie thing like that's what I

Emma Chamberlain. She's one of my favorites. She's in my top three. She looks perfect. Is that Diesel? I don't know what it is, but I like the denim matching. I think the loafer is very her. I didn't see a loafer at Coachella other than really her. Like, you know. I love her like little mullet situation she has going on right now. She's a supermodel and has an unlimited budget from Louis Vuitton. No one can say shit to her. She looks fabulous.

I appreciate when someone takes their day-to-day fashion and elevates it. Like, it's still so Emma, but it's, like, elevated Coachella Emma. Yeah, she's very... I feel like it's still very casual, but it's not, like, so casual, again, that, like, you could just wear it to any... And she did the same thing here. Like, it's cute. Like, I liked...

I don't know what the bag is. I don't know what the bag stitch is. It looks like you could put a vacuum in there. I was just going to say like my MacBook Pro would fit in there. It is big. But it's sick. I like it. I like that she elevated her style. I agree. She kept it her and she kept it cute. And she's also in the middle of like, I'm not an influencer and I'm not trying too hard. And I'm not a celebrity who doesn't completely give a fuck. She's an influencer. I think that everybody believes deserves to be a celebrity. I think everyone can agree on that. She should be in the same category as like a...

Kendall Jenner. Dixie D'Amelio. Flawless. My Coachella's best dressed. Best dressed. Number one. She's my coach. I was by far. I have this whole way out in my head was like today. Like if she wasn't this skinny, would I still like this fit that much? Because people always say that, you know, but it's her. It's not. And the answer was, yeah, it's her. Like, she's cool as fuck. Like, and these you can't see it in this photo, but these are like cut off shorts and not pants. Are they? Yeah.

They're cut off shorts. She looks insane. The small top, she killed it. The diamond, she killed it. The hair, she killed it. The hair, she bodied. If she wore no bag, she would have killed it 10 times more. The Diablo comment is hilarious. That's all I have to say. She literally killed Coachella. Every outfit, even her in the pool, made me literally straight. I know. I loved her little buns. And with her Heineken. Like, come on. It doesn't get more...

Regular than that. I'm telling you, she's cool. Killed it, killed it, killed it, killed it, killed it. Exactly the same thing. Like the fact that her hair had the black in it and was like a little head. And then like the shorts. I loved all the shorts. She was my favorite trend right now is like long shorts and just giving abs, like giving abs all of Coachella. Like it's giving very 80s and I'm living for it. The shorts, the jean, like the denim shorts, big jacket. Like Brightbrook Schofield. Yes, it was. You killed it.

Horrible. Let's talk about it. Oh, no, no, no. So I've seen these tops before. Which one's Madison Martina and which one's Lele Pons? Neither of those are Madison Martina. At all. One of those is Hannah Stocking. That's Lele Pons and Hannah Stocking. Brooke just clowned me off camera. She said, Tana, that's your best friend. Yeah, because Tana one time ditched me to go to Lele Pons' wedding.

You can't take out like a dupe of a fab fucking like piece and put it with a fucking jean short, you piece of shit. That's what really sends me. The tops are, they're pretty bad, but honestly, without the black strap, they wouldn't be that bad. I'm just worried about how sweaty they are in there. Really? Honestly, I don't hate the tops at all.

The strap is scary. The strap is fucking horrible. If those tops were worn with dope-ass low-rise pants, I'm not mad at the top. No, I don't think so either, but the black strap is the problem. If the top was worn with a fucking sheer skirt that went down your ankles with a fucking insane shoe on with the most insane diamonds on, I would understand. They have black straps and jean shorts on with shit on their eyes. I'm over it.

The shorts, the shorts, and I mean, at least lately went for like a belt. The shorts. No, the belt made it worse. The shorts with the top like killed me because I'm not against the shorts and I'm not against the top in their own regard. Styled out perfectly. Okay. I'm not. They killed the Coachella. Like,

No, it reminds me of those like the clear shoes you can wear where it like gets all foggy in there. Like I know that's happening in their top. But sometimes suffering is... Oh no, Ari's crying because of their outfits. Sometimes a look, you have to suffer. You have to suffer for the look. You know what I mean? But where's the look? That's my point. The shorts with the tops...

It's the different colors. They could have matched. I know they could have at least agreed on a wash. And both wore at least the same hair, the same denim. You know, you kill the denim. You know about that. I like the tops. That's all I know to say. Their tits look great. Body, skin. Tits, tits. They're beautiful, beautiful icons. And I love the tops. I just, everything surrounding the top really hurts me. Sincere, like three.

Out of 10. And I love them. I don't think this is on my scale. Her wedding dress looked amazing. Yeah, like, I'm not... Nothing... I love the top. The three is for the... Maybe a five, because I love the top and I love their faces. I...

Maybe unpopular opinion, but I love this. Oh this look on Alex Earl. Oh my god Is in one of my like top fives? I was looking at the girl on the right Well and this dress is like 3m like it doesn't shine like that normally was gray yeah, it's a gray dress But it's reflective so it's like shining we wait Alex Earl is Khloe Kardashian and

oh my goodness she's fab she looks amazing she killed it she so killed it and but the other one didn't I am utterly utterly obsessed with this look of Alex Rowe I would give it an absolute 10 out of 10 like I love the way it's accessorized I love this dress I love that it's 3M I love it my favorite honestly top three oh my gosh the slick Rick hair half up half down with the you know vintage Chanel with the

Sorry. No, no, no. You kill it. She posted the funniest video of her coming home after this night and you will never believe what her... She's hilarious. She's so relatable. She was at Neon Carnival killing it. She kills the game. No one kills it harder. Killing it. What'd I say? This one's fun. Is that a belt? Is that a thick belt? It's giving... I'm trying to be Zoe Fish, but I can't. I'm almost there. Couple years off. I'm a couple years off. She's killing it though. The boots, I think they're Prada. Prada.

Everything else, Fashion Nova. She's killing it, though. She kills everything. The other one put me over in a chokehold, and I like this one. You can't have three slays in a row. You have to have one main and then a couple side slays. I totally like this one. I like this fit. I think the pants fit was my least favorite. The other one was just like, I'm Alex Earl, and you're going to fucking look at me, and I'm fucking Alex Earl. That's my number one. But everyone has the best one of three fits. Love. Love.

Oh, my God. Noah, I love you so much. Your outfit looks like shit, but you're so hot. What's on the vest? You're the hottest person on the planet. I think if it's on air, first of all, it's on brand. Notice how he tagged Empire Polo Club.

Oh, it is. I know. I thought about that today. I was like, I shouldn't make my location Coachella because the cool people make it. No, Daily Stardust did that, though. Oh, well, maybe because they saw the horses. I personally think that Noah, I mean, he could have done better, but I think clothes just look like so good on him. But I don't think that that vest looked good on him. I think I think he looks better. I think he would just look better with no clothes on. But sometimes when you're. Yeah, I think that's it. When you're sexy, you could just wear whatever. Yeah.

Yeah, I like all the pieces as is. The fit overall is very much like a 6 out of 10 to me, but I do really like the vest. I just think it's Noah Beck and he can do whatever he wants. I take offense to the shark on his hat for sure. Ricky Thompson eats every time. Has never not eaten a day in his life. I wish he had bagpipes though. 10 out of 10 in my opinion. To the grocery store he hit that he just kills it. He kills everything. I love those boots too. That's a 10 to me. I think anyone with a fucking bald head like that

Denzel, same situation. Another sweaty one. I know that's sweaty. I think he killed it.

So fucking bad. Yeah, but that's like essentially like actually wearing a trash bag. Like the sweat that he had to have endured. He looked 10 out of 10 fabulous. No, he looks incredible. Let me be clear about that. But I just want to talk about comfort level at Coachella. Snatched. All leather's wild. But you know, that's something I would do. I did that to Life is Beautiful in September in Vegas. It's just, they kill it. If you wear leather in the heat, you kill it. I don't give a fuck what anyone says.

Shout out him. I appreciate people who will forsake their comfort for fashion. Yeah. Always. Again, Coachella's for fun. Oh, Alex Earl's third fit. I liked the other two a lot more than this one. I appreciate the boobage. I always love to see her boobs. For sure. Yeah. But I think this could have been... It just is too busy, I think. I think it's the vest to me gives like coquette. Yeah, she's giving like jury duty up top.

And then like, I don't know what's going on on bottom. Yeah, like cowgirl realness. This is my least favorite of her fits. Me too. But if I wore all three fits, I wouldn't be upset. I think she looked great all the days. I would wear that though. Like if my stylist put me in that was like, you look like cute. Like I would wear it. So it's like, you know, Stassi baby. She looked fabulous. 10 out of 10. Super hot.

She the metal top killed that. I don't know how much I like it. I love Stassi. I don't know how much I like that outfit. Her body killed the skirt killed it. OK, guys, if you want an actual Coachella in-depth outfit interview video, let me know. That was kind of us just giving our thoughts randomly on some bits. I don't think we we didn't put in any zeros.

I don't think we even rated half of them. I know, I know. But they were all like decent bits that we liked. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think we just skipped over a lot of ones that were really horrible. I skipped over all the fugly, awful ones. So if people really want that from us or like a TikTok or something like that, I'm down. I just... Yeah, something that you can like delete after. Even just a YouTube video where I'm dedicating my time to going into that, I like feel...

bad that's the thing I think people want that for me like the outfit review like Psycho Tana again but like I was just an unhinged asshole then and now I like scary now I don't like to say anything bad really I just saw a fit on the screen of a girl who I like love like she's an influencer I love and she's such a sweetheart and I would rate the fit a 2 out of 10 it was awful she looked awful but I felt terrible even including it or like saying that because it's like tough you know yeah you don't want to be mean

Speaking of festivals, we have a fun segment to end today's episode. I am so excited about this. I it is my dream to go to Fyre Festival. I don't know about me. I fully originally wanted him this guy who's about to come in and be a guest for the last like 20 minutes of the show. I wanted him to be like a full blown guest on canceled podcast. Come here, sit on the couch, talk or shit.

But he legally can't leave the state of New York. Very understandable after everything he's been through. Today we are having on Billy McFarland, the CEO of Fyre Festival. Is it a CEO? Yeah, it's his shit. He's the CEO. It just broke news worldwide. You can be the CEO of anything. I know, but is it a company like?

For sure. Well, she started Fyre Festival, right? Yeah. With who? Ja Rule? I should have educated myself. No, I think Ja Rule was just like someone there, someone performing, someone like being the face of something, like how Frank Ocean performed, but isn't Coachella like- Did he though? Yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, that's another topic. He's doing Fyre Festival, too, and it's been making the news worldwide. Like it's it was just on the cover of like Paper Magazine. I just saw that online. Like people are freaking out and I want to have him on and ask him a few questions as a fellow failed convention holder myself. You know, people often compare TanaCon to Fyre Festival. Really similar, honestly. I have some questions for him. Billy's ready and we're going to have him on and we're going to talk to him and we're going to see what's going on. It's the most canceled that shit to do.

Hello. What's up, guys? Hi. We're so excited to have you. Thank you so much for joining us on today's episode of Canceled. What's up, guys? Super late here in New York, but pumped to be here. What time is it in New York City?

It's like 12, 12, 20. Oh my God. Thank you for taking the time. Yeah. Let's do it. What's going on? Well, I just appreciate you in a way giving us kind of the exclusive on some things that are going on with Firefest. I had that same couch in my last apartment that I was arrested in. So it's bringing up all kinds of memories right now. Well, you and I have, you and I have done a lot of similar things. Apparently, you know, we're trying to bring you back.

It's actually funny. I mean, I'm just now meeting you right now for the first time. Hello. But in years of my life with having a maybe a convention that didn't go the way I planned, Tanacon, people have compared you and I and have said that we should link or work together a lot. So I'm happy we finally are.

Let's go. I hope my career trajectory looks like yours in the past five years. Oh, come on. You're you are doing the damn thing. So, I mean, can I just jump into we have so many rogue questions for you today. I just I want to know so many things. Yeah, let's do it. Fire Festival to.

Would you guys come? Of course. We were actually just talking about how funny it would be and iconic it would be to have a canceled episode live from Fyre Festival. It's my dream to go to Fyre Festival. I would go again, even if I knew it were going to fail, which I don't think, by the way.

But there is a lot of speculation and I can relate to you in the regard that after TanaCon kind of plummeted, I had a lot of offers and people kind of come reach back out to me like, do it again because there's so much hype around it, you know, and the pressure to prove yourself in something that you once like believed in so heavily.

Are you nervous towards the pressures and the public thoughts on Fyre Festival 2? I think it's like super interesting that people want to be as close to turbulence as they can get without risking getting hurt. So if the build up to Fyre Festival 2 could provide that turbulence, I think it has like the opportunity to just capture so much attention.

But at the same time, I saw what happens when you fuck up and just like cannot have that happen again because the second time there just is no coming back from. Absolutely. This one is kind of the final you swing and you hope you hit. Are you do you feel like this one will go without hiccup? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it has to. Did you do Tana Khan again or no? Sorry, I've been out of the loop, so I don't know. With similar, I guess, and forgive me if I'm overstepping, but likeness to you, there is a giant part of me that would love to do it again and come back and prove myself and allow people to want to attend and speculate, you know,

if it's going to be good or bad and so on and so forth. And I've had my offers and my moments of deciding if I want to do that. But the pressure of delivering that in a way that supersedes the past one so much does terrify me. So I guess that's why I'm asking you, do you feel that Fyre Festival 2 will go without Hiccup? Interesting. Like, no, there has to be Hiccup. I think that's part of the Fyre experience as well. But it's also like an interesting point where if it's like,

kind of good, it's almost worse than it being really bad, right? Because it's less memorable. So it's like this interesting thing where it either needs to be amazing or so terrible that it's worse than last time that makes it more memorable. And anything in the middle is just like a huge failure. Well, what do you plan for it to be? You plan for it to be... It has to be tropical again, right? Like we need to nail that first before moving on. Like that's a theme and like that needs to be delivered. Yeah.

Yeah, it needs to be like a year or so away though, right? I can't do it again in four or five months. Yeah, so when... Do you have a timeline that you're like thinking? No date yet. And I think like...

I've had offers as I'm sure you have had as well. And just vetting these partners now. And I really want to focus on like the wild shit and like do cool marketing. But more importantly, just like do more fun, adventurous stuff on this site. Whether it's like stuff with like flying, just scoop it out. And it's like focus more on that and find a great partner to like deal with all the logistics. And I'm not the guy to sell the tickets or give me the wristbands. But when you get there, we're going to have like the craziest fucking four days of your life. Wow. So is it still an idea right now? Or have you started like actually...

like planning it out. Yeah. There, there have been some tangible plans, so I can't, I can't give a date yet and like get totally fucked, but yeah, there are tangible plans. Sorry to cut you off. Has it been like harder to get people to get behind you this time after the first one? Like as far as like people who want to get on board with you to throw it? It's actually been a little bit easier. I think like the world has changed in the past six years. I think

i think if i was sitting in the same spot six years ago it would have been really hard but as you guys have totally mastered like attention is the reserve currency of the world right now so for everybody that says no there are you know massive brands and massive artists that

for that attention and like that is their currency. So they're kind of willing to take that risk. And I agree. Honestly, I always thought that the viability for TanaCon would be on zero after one. And if anything, like you said, people wanting to be as close to the turbulence as possible almost attracts more potential suitors in like a business regard. So I understand that. I just guess...

I've been seeing so much press around it lately. We were just talking like Paper Magazine did this whole thing and that's why we were excited to have you on. What kind of sparked that new press run? Like what made you decide to kind of go forward with saying you are doing a Fyre Festival too? - It's like starting to feel real in terms of who's coming around the table.

And there were a couple of like, So you've always been down, you've always been down to do Fyre Festival too. You've just been waiting for kind of the right time and people to do it. I was in my jail cell for four years trying to like draw out a roadmap for it. Four years? Yeah. They did you dirty. They did you dirty. It could have been worse. So you were actually in jail for four years, yeah? Yeah. So I missed Tana Khan and all the, all the. You didn't miss much. You didn't miss much. I just didn't miss much. It's,

In jail for direct correlation to Fyre Festival. Yeah, so basically lied to investors to raise money for the event and was charged for wire fraud for lying to them. Yeah, that'll get you. Wasn't actually charged. Yeah, wasn't charged for the festival itself. I think what people get wrong is literally

literally charged for how we where did you where did you serve time what where did you serve time at oh i just kept getting in trouble like getting sent to worse and worse jails but finished up at a jail like outside of detroit and michigan and i'm from new york so oh yeah so no rikers island no rikers island but no no i was in federal jail so yeah sorry isn't federal kind of like

My lawyer always tells me if I'm going to go to jail to go to federal jail because that's that's ideal that my mom went to federal prison and she said it's like I can't. Oh, really? Yeah. Like they have like room service. No. OK, not room service, but it's you don't want to go to state like prison. But federal is like, yeah, it's like not cool. It's not cool. You know what? I'll keep talking.

What kind of food are we serving at Fyre Fest? I think that's what the people want to know. So when I first got to jail, they served me a cheese sandwich, which I thought was pretty funny. That's hilarious. Whoever did that is hysterical.

I was like kind of mad. I'm like, are you not going to give me real food? They're like, no, this is how you get it. How do you do on food? Spread the word. Did you have a humble out-of-body experience like this may be what I accidentally did to the people? Yeah. They're just not a fun experience. No, understandably so. Well, you didn't answer me. What do you want to serve there? Are we serving prime rib or what? I just haven't gotten that far yet. Like,

That's fair I guess that's a little bit Further down the road And honestly One thing that you can't do When running back a festival For the second time Is over promise And under deliver So if you don't know What food you're serving That's true Honestly it's better To just say less And have more When everybody shows up Than to say everything That's going to be great About the festival And then

Rogue marketing idea Market it the identical same As Fire Festival 1 Like yo you're gonna come out here Figure the fuck out for yourself And I feel like so many people would attend It's like going on Survivor No offense Yeah

Like it would almost be funnier to just completely under promise and over deliver. And that's, that's a great marketing tactic towards it. Honestly, that's funny. So my idea we had is that like you arrive and it looks like a shit hole, like the first time. And you basically like go through some like secret, like portal or curtain and

And it's actually an amazing festival set up. Well, don't blow your secrets. No, we're not going to do that one. That was one of the ideas. Not to ask a quite outdated question, but I think it's something that I really don't know and should know as a fellow festival failure. I love that acronym.

But what went wrong? Like, I know what went wrong at Fyre Fest, but I mean, in your planning process, like I can, I can accredit like pivotal parts of my planning process to what kind of made TanaCon go wrong. You know, like I worked with the wrong person. We had so like this and this go wrong because we didn't oversee this and this. Like, can you look back and like identify what went wrong that made it go wrong? I think the biggest problem was time.

We dropped this trailer without knowing if we were even doing the festival and sold a bunch of tickets. And now we had four months to make the impossible reality. And then next is like, I was just like young and like totally acting like an idiot and just like lost in the sauce. And I think I was attracting a lot of people who wanted the fast road to like money and success and power and attention whenever it may have been. I'm like,

And I certainly was like one of the same, but like I think it's like attracting bad people was like being a bad person and it's like a recipe for disaster. Well, and I think that when you base any business decision based on the impulsivity and being obsessed with how it looks online and so on and so forth, though, there are negative forthcomings to come with that. So it's good that you can recognize that. I think that moving forward, you plan on kind of being the face of it, but allowing the

people who really specialize in this space to make sure that it's perfect, no? Yeah, for sure. I think the overall outlook and like jail in some weird way, like show you the value of relationships. And we are all so young. We all have so much time to like work and find success and to, you know, find friends. But it's like really about forming those deep relationships that we can like grow for the next 50, 60 years.

And not about like, hey, let's outdo last weekend or this weekend every single time and finding people who just kind of want that fast fix to just try and take a different approach. You think Kendall Jenner and the Hadids will co-sign this one? Or you think you're going to have Brooke and Tana as your main...

I think it's funny to just like have nothing right where it's like hey guys like this might be fucking terrible but if it's terrible you know join us yeah join us for the shit show and like spend zero hours in marketing and make it the point but yeah I feel like a lot of people are gonna wanna be a part of it I know us like

in particular, I feel like it's exciting to us to like see how it pans out the second time. It should be a part of the chaos for sure. Do you think that like ideally, obviously this is thinking far ahead, but would you want it to be something that happens like every year? Like a type of vibe? Yeah. So like the initial idea for fire was to have different themes, like have a water theme, like, like an earth theme, which could be a mountain or something else. Like try to find like the five, like natural elements and build a festival around all of them. And I still think that idea is pretty cool.

That is really cool. I love that. But we got to probably start with a successful fire. Yeah. And honestly, I mean, like, like I said, I hope we swing and we hit this time because there's something there, you know, like you said, spend zero dollars on marketing. You don't have to, you know, the marketing is done. The marketing is done. Millions of dollars have been spent on the marketing of that inadvertently, maybe negatively, but hopefully it can be spun in a positive way. No such thing as bad press.

Wow. And last, of course. Oh, my God. Billy, it's nice to meet you. And I appreciate you coming on Cancel to just talk to us a little bit about the upcoming Fyre Festival, too. And again, as a fellow failed festival finesser, I can't wait to see you.

I like how you own it. But I think you guys need to be like the ones to do the live podcast from the festival site. I think. Are you giving us permission? Because listen, I didn't get this in writing. No, I think we did just get it in writing that canceled podcast will host the entire live view from Fyre Festival. And we can't fucking wait, dude. I am so excited. Amazing. Thank you for it. Thank you for staying up so late on New York time, Billy. And we will talk very soon. All right, guys. I'll see you soon. Thank you. Good night. Thank you.

So funny. And I want to be a part of it so bad. Oh, no. I sincerely would actually like give a finger or a limb to be that to be the live correspondence at Fyre Festival. I love his blind delusion, though. That like really like is inspirational to me.

Like because he's been saying it online so much like it's been like not him directly but him in the press you know like fire festival. Yeah like you usually secure an actual location like a venue like you would decide that that's like for sure. Like I've made TanaCon 2 jokes but if I'm coming online saying TanaCon 2 is happening I at least like have some I know that there's a structure to it. Yes I know the company like the festival company is providing it I know who's doing the ticketing I know where it's at like I would have all that going just to say. Are we recording this on purpose?

yeah are we gonna keep this in the episode yes oh like i'm mind blown billy love you like i'm excited to be there and like host it and see it all going i think it's just he's gonna uninvite us no no it it just feels really reckless like he put his dick in just saying fire festival too and now it's happening i'll be there i'm just saying like that's hilarious really crazy

I love it though. Listen, I'm all for speaking things into existence. He just like threw an idea out there. Bro, that's so fucking insane. I'm like, I can't believe he actually went to jail for four years. I can. I mean, yes, yes, yes, yes. But I'm saying even that, like if you go to jail for four years for it. And then the first thing you want to do when you come out is do the exact same thing. There's got to be some boning and structure to it. Well, yeah.

I don't think he plans on like lying to investors and stuff this time. I do. I do hope to God that he has people in his corner that know, like you said, like that are, that are more well-versed in like the actual act of throwing a festival. I mean, I think I, what I said, I meant, I genuinely agree. Like even after TanaCon completely failed, um,

I had like Live Nation and like people like reaching out to me, like down to help on a TanaCon too that are like so established because they know there doesn't need to be a marketing budget. So many people will just like. Yeah. Attend. Now they know there's a demand. Because it's crazy. And I'm not against that. Again, like I said to him, it's like be the face of it, you know? And someone dope should run it. And I can't wait to be there. I just mean, I'm just like paying an homage, laughing at the back. Who would I make the face of my festival?

yeah dixie domelio well i think that i think it just you know the failed festivals don't come too often you know i think that we have a shoe in for being the face of it because there's not many other girl live hosts that have had a i think we're gonna kill it honestly amazing i agree everyone thought they were getting hayley and bella you got fuck and tana

Thank you so much for tuning into this festival slash festival outfit slash festival recap slash failed festival future. What's with me? I'm doing good with that. What, the alliteration? Yeah. Episode of Cancelled. We love you so much. And thank you for wanting our hot takes on everything that we know nothing on. He left me at the Red Rock. Stay tuned. Who left this bitch at the Red Rock? Stay tuned. Bye.