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He Poisoned Her Cereal With WHAT?! The Murder of Christina Harris

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hello everyone and welcome back to true crime with kendall ray thank you for joining me once again and if you are new then welcome so happy to have you so today we are talking about a case that man really pissed me off and even though it is incredibly sad and frustrating and all the things i wanted to talk about it because this family did such an amazing job they knew

that what happened to Christina Harris, the victim in this case, absolutely could not have been an accident as it was originally ruled. And they did not give up and fought for justice and ended up getting it. And I'm sure I sound like a broken record when I say that fighting for justice should not be the responsibility of the family. However, with our justice system, oftentimes it falls on them. And I am always just so...

impressed and truly amazed at the strength that some people have. That when they are trying to grieve the loss of a loved one, they're able to somehow muster up enough strength to fight for justice at the same time. And for all the times that I talk about cases where families are still in that fight and working their way towards justice and needing help from all of you, it's nice to talk about a case where all of that effort that they put in has already paid off and

And justice has been served. And if you're anything like me, when I start going through the details of this case and how everything happened, your jaw is going to be on the floor. And there's a lot to go over. So let's just jump right in by starting to talk about Christina or Christy.

Christina Ann Thompson, or Christy as she's known, was born on January 16th, 1978 in Flint, Michigan to her parents Kathy and Harvey. Although I believe she was primarily raised by her mom and her stepfather Jim, she also had two sisters, two really amazing sisters I should say. And unfortunately I don't have a ton of information about her super early life, but I can tell you that Christy was an amazing person.

When I looked at who she was, it was clear that she was a really good soul and the life of the party, just a fun, outgoing, outspoken individual who so many people loved. She really liked to be sort of the center of attention, make other people smile and laugh. And if there was an opportunity for the spotlight to be on her, that girl definitely took it.

she loved game nights with her family scrapbooking swimming and above all else she loved her two beautiful daughters in 1997 christie met jason harris the two of them met at a party and to say that they hit it off instantly would really be an understatement and the two of them were very different truly a case of opposites attract i mean she was quiet

shy than he was more reserved but at first they really seemed like a great match they got married in 2003 which was a night that her sisters say christy absolutely shined and in 2009 they welcomed their first daughter hallie now being a mother was something that christy was not only good at but truly great at and i really want to give her all the flowers here because when you become a mother it can be so shocking and such a massive adjustment

It can be very difficult. I know from my own personal experience that it's not always the easiest transition, but for Christy, it was just something that came naturally to her. From the day she became a mother, her daughter was her world. She was willing to make all the sacrifices in her life that she needed to to ensure the well-being of her child and that she had the best life and care possible. And this was not only true the first time around, but it was...

true again in May of 2014 when Christy and Jason welcomed their second daughter, Kayleanne. And if there's one thing that I think Christy should be honored for, remembered for, it was her dedication to her daughters. Christy loved those girls with everything she had. And it turns out that her dedication and effort to caring for her newborn ended up being a huge

huge piece of key evidence in this case, but I will explain more about that later. So fast forwarding a few months to September of 2014, Christy was four months postpartum. She had given birth to her daughter via C-section and she was already back at work. And of course, she was breastfeeding, so she needed to pump and store a ton of breast milk

So that whoever was watching her daughter could feed her while she was at work. And this is a process that can be very difficult, very challenging, and you really have to be dedicated to it. And from what I've learned, Christy absolutely was. She was super regimented with her pumping schedule and super, super meticulous about making labels for when the milk was pumped. And this is a really key detail to...

Her loved one said that she was very, very careful to make really healthy choices in her own life because she knew that it would directly affect her milk supply and the health of her baby. And if any of this seems like random information to you, I promise it's not. It's very vital to understanding this case. I'm Victoria Cash, and I want to invite you to a place called Lucky Land.

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So again, it's September 2014, and specifically it was September 29th, 2014. And it seemed like a normal morning by all accounts. Jason drops his two girls off at daycare and Christy is supposed to be at home.

getting ready for work. But the thing is, she wasn't. And Jason knew that, but he didn't want other people to know that he knew that. So then a little bit of time passes and then Jason kicks off his plan, which is to text a neighbor so that they can go to his house immediately.

and find his wife's body. Which, I think we can all agree, is so incredibly fucked up. And, I mean, if you're willing to commit a murder, obviously you're not going to care much about other people's well-being and would be perfectly fine with someone going through the trauma of finding a body, but I'm getting ahead of myself. But anyway, this neighbor gets a text from Jason where he appears to be concerned about his wife. He tells her that he's been trying to get a hold of her all morning without any luck, and he's

and he is worried that maybe she slept through her alarm. A real stand-up guy. So this neighbor, like any good neighbor, asks him if...

She wants her to go over and check on Christy. And he, of course, says yes. And so she does. And what she didn't realize is when she went over there, she was going to find a really gruesome scene. She found Christy in her bed, cold to the touch and foaming at the mouth. And I've watched interviews of this neighbor talking about this experience, and you can tell that it was truly traumatic for her, as it would be for anyone, right? I mean, it was a truly...

horrific discovery and so she did what anyone else would do and immediately called 911. She also ended up calling another neighbor who is a registered nurse and unfortunately she didn't have anything to tell her that she didn't already know. Christy was gone and no life-saving measures would bring her back.

And that's exactly the conclusion that first responders came to as soon as they got to the house as well. I mean, it was very obvious. So they pronounced her dead and did a very brief and lackluster investigation. Now at the scene, it didn't seem like there was anything that really stood out as being a potential cause for Christy's death. There was no sign of a struggle, no kind of weapon laying around.

besides a few pain pills that she had been given from her c-section there was really nothing to point to anything to explain this and quite frankly it looked like christie a perfectly healthy 36 year old woman had just died in her sleep which of course does happen but it's very rare the only small clue there may have been which i don't think was considered a clue at first was the fact that she died with foam in her mouth

The implication being that maybe she had overdosed. But like I said, the belief, at least at first, was that she had just died in her sleep. So if she had overdosed, that wouldn't have been determined until after the autopsy was performed. So while her body was being taken away and sent off for a medical evaluation, family and friends were left at the scene to grieve ever.

And question, what exactly happened here? Many of them were just trying to, you know, wrap their minds around this. It just was so out of nowhere, made no sense, and was incredibly shocking to all of them, as it would be for anybody. Like I said, Christy was only 36 years old. She was generally pretty healthy and had no pre-existing conditions or anything like that. Nothing to explain this sudden death. But Jason...

told police something different. At the scene, he was asked about his wife's behavior the night before, and he specifically mentioned that she'd been acting sort of strange. He told them that he'd made her a bowl of cereal late at night after she complained about being hungry, but said that she was...

practically falling asleep at the table while having her cereal. And when she could hardly stay awake at the table, he said he needed to carry her into bed, which is where she fell asleep for the rest of the night. And according to his story, he was under the impression that she was completely fine when he left for work that morning. But guys, this was the extent of his conversation with the police. He wasn't

brought in for further questioning, a more, you know, formal questioning, and he was never followed up with absolutely nothing. And honestly, had investigators done their due diligence and really spoke to him or spoke to other neighbors, they would have seen this for what it actually was.

which was a homicide investigation. They may have been able to collect evidence, particularly that cereal bowl, or done a sweep of the house. Really anything would have been good, but they just...

took Jason at his word. But his word to them and his word to his neighbors were very different. Because it turns out that very morning, Jason was going around talking to his neighbors saying that Christy wasn't the angel her parents thought she was and other defamatory statements like that, which is pretty bold and disrespectful if you ask me. I mean, I think we can all agree that that's just a huge red flag that the morning your wife dies,

and you know what actually happened, that you're going around saying things like that about her...

But here's the thing about Jason. His ego is astronomical. I genuinely believe that he genuinely believed he was going to get away with this. That's why he was so comfortable talking smack about her right off the bat. And not just after her death, but also before, which I will get more into that. But first, let's talk about those autopsy reports. On October 22nd, Davison PD received the results of the autopsy, and it showed that Christy died as the result of...

The drug that starts with H and ends with N. Toxicity. And I know I don't normally censor words like that. I feel like especially with true crime, it's important to just say the details as they are. But YouTube has been weirdly cracking down on certain things lately. And so to be safe, I'm just going to...

refer to it as that or I will probably just say the drugs going forward or the drug but that is what I mean and I'm sure most of you know what I mean when I say the drug that starts with H and ends with N okay and not just that but they found that the drug was consumed orally now I personally didn't know this because I don't have a lot of familiarity with that drug but that drug is just a

not consumed orally. It's just not a thing. Which, if that is true, and again, I'm not an expert, but you would think that the medical examiner would take that into consideration.

Why was this drug consumed orally? Does that make any sense? Shouldn't that send off some type of alarm bells to them? But it didn't, and Christy's death was ruled an accidental overdose. That's right, you guys, the medical examiner just assumed that Christy knowingly orally consumed drugs.

Even after her family went to the police to tell them that she was in no way, shape, or form a drug user, never had been, they didn't do anything about it, at least not right away. The ruling was accidental overdose and it stayed that way for years, meaning that the investigation into her death was not a high priority. And it also meant that Jason was free to live his life and he absolutely did so. It turns out that less than a month

After his wife died, Jason moved a new woman into the home to live with him and his children. And I didn't mention this before, but Jason actually had been married before Christy and had two children from that relationship. So he had partial custody of them in addition to full custody of his daughters from his marriage to Christy.

And his life didn't just go back to normal after Christy's death. It actually significantly improved and it seemed like he was doing better than ever. Jason collected more than $120,000 in life insurance policies, paid off some debt, bought a few cars for him and for his new girlfriend, and even bought a brand new home.

And as you can imagine, this absolutely horrified and infuriated Christy's entire family. They just knew in their gut that he had something to do with her death. I mean, her death made zero sense to them. And here he is living this brand new life with a bunch of cash, his new girlfriend acting like he never even cared about Christy at all. And they were all aware, which we haven't really gone into, that he and Christy's marriage was bad.

on the rocks. And for her to just die so suddenly, not to mention in the way that she died, made no sense to them. And the way he was acting now told them everything they needed to know. And what I haven't mentioned yet is Christy was open with them about the fact that Jason was cheating on her. In fact, if you didn't already think this guy was a scumbag, which I am sure you already do, turns out this motherfucker was texting another woman

in the delivery room while his wife is being cut open and giving birth to his child via c-section that part just blew my mind the audacity the sacrifice that she is making for you i mean a c-section is no joke it is major surgery the recovery is extremely painful from what i've heard and she is giving you a child and you have the nerve to be texting up your other side girl what the fuck

Plus, and this tells me everything I personally need to know, Christy had told a co-worker that if she turned up dead, that they needed to look inside.

into her husband. And how many times have we heard this story before? Oh, and remember how I said his ego was absolutely through the roof and he seemed to have no problem just running around blabbing his mouth about Christy to everyone? Well, it turns out that before she died, he openly went to his brother and asked him to pay for a plane ticket for him to go visit the woman that he was talking to. So just was...

perfectly comfortable talking openly about cheating on the mother of his children, who he was still married to.

Yeah, he's that dude. Now, his brother actually did book the flight for him and paid for it. But I do want to give him credit here because he completely ends up turning on Jason over time. And he did end up canceling that flight after he realized how fucked up the whole thing was. But overall, it sounds to me like he would talk to just about anyone who would listen about how much he disliked his wife. And this will come up again later on. But just to give you another example, Jason...

openly talked to his co-workers about how he wanted his wife dead. One co-worker even said that Jason had asked him for a tasteless, odorless drug that would knock her out. And that person actually sold Jason 10 Klonopin, which is a sedative, but he told another co-worker that when he tried putting them in his wife's water, she detected them. So his plan didn't work. Which, side note, who are these people that are...

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And then it gets even worse because he tells someone that he paid a hitman $5,000 to get the job done for him. And then it didn't work out because that hitman was arrested and obviously wasn't able to do the job.

And because the hitman now wasn't able to kill her, he was now asking a co-worker if they would do it for $10,000. And he literally told them, I will be getting $100,000 from her life insurance policy and I will pay you out as soon as I get that. In fact, that very morning that Christy was found dead, he called up her employer and said,

and was asking about the life insurance money right away. What more of a red flag could you possibly put up? And then a week later, he goes to her office to ask again.

I'm honestly speechless. I mean, how stupid can you get? Although I'm thankful that he is so stupid because it was his stupidity that helped this case to get solved. Anyways, though, let's talk about the why, or at least the why that Jason was telling his co-workers. Jason's whole issue, or so he claimed, was the fact that he was a victim of a crime.

was that Christy was lazy, not hardworking, and that she was constantly nagging him. He said he even questioned whether he was the father of their second daughter. And this is so frustrating to me because how obvious can it be that this guy was serious? But none of these co-workers thought he actually was, so no one went to the police. Or at least that's what they're saying. I mean, he was giving like direct examples of what he was going to do, asking people for things. No one went to the police.

Who are these fucking people? And even his own sister didn't immediately report him to the police when he told her a year before everything happened that he felt the only way out of his marriage was murder. Jason told her that he didn't want to pay child support because he was already divorced from another woman and paying child support to her and so he didn't want to have to do that again. And

Truly unbelievable, but he actually gave her a step-by-step plan of how he would kill Christy if he were to kill her. And it was exactly how he ended up doing it. And she never reported this to the police. No one said anything to anybody. And with how many people were aware of how he's feeling, what he's saying, what he's talking about doing, it just truly blows my mind and infuriates me that no one said anything. I mean...

It's stuff like this that just really makes you lose faith in humanity. And it's also just wild to me that the reason he did this was because he didn't want to have to pay child support.

Listen, Jason, you big dumb dumb, just because you kill your wife doesn't mean you're off the hook for supporting your kids. And now you're doing it on a single income. Genius. Even with the 100,000 life insurance policy that he got through her employers and an additional 20,000 that he got through his employers, that still equates to like...

to maybe three years of someone's salary. So they would have made more money as a family in the long run if Christy was still alive, but considering how stupid Jason is, I'm sure math isn't a strong suit of his either. Now, obviously, I've been very vocally frustrated about how horrible it is that no one went to the police about the very whack and threatening things Jason was saying leading up to Christy's murder, but...

His brother Jeff and his sister Rachel did end up going to the police two days after she was murdered, which obviously isn't very helpful at that point, but at least they ended up doing that. But to make another long story short, Rachel ended up telling Jeff everything that Jason had said to her, and Jeff was...

obviously super concerned. But she called him back like a day later to say that Jason told her that he was kidding and thought that he would just get a divorce. So Jeff pretty much forgot about it. That is until Christy was actually found dead.

And he was suddenly reminded of everything Jason had said he was going to do. So they did go to the police and report this. However, not much was done because even if it was true, that information is technically hearsay. They didn't have actual proof that Jason killed Christy. And investigators said that they didn't want to

you know, ruin their only shot at a conviction based on hearsay. They needed more evidence, they need more information. So what does that mean? It means that unless something else fell into their laps, Jason was a free man just living his best life with his new woman. So Jason was not going to be prosecuted, which brings me back to what I said at the beginning of this episode, that

that Christy's family was relentless in their pursuit of justice. From the day she died and into the weeks, months, and years that followed, her mom, dad, and sisters did everything in their power to keep Hope alive. And one thing I learned that just

really impressed me, really blew my mind that they were able to do this, but they decided to keep up a relationship with Jason because he had custody of the girls and they were terrified of what he could possibly do to them. I mean, he... Who knows what this guy is capable of? So they kind of just

put on a front, put on a smile so that they could remain as close to the situation as possible. They had to just pretend to be okay with him for years. They had to not let him know that they were onto him when meanwhile, they were in contact with the police emailing them every single day.

And I mean that truly. Christy's mom, Kathy, didn't miss a single day when it came to advocating for her daughter. She didn't let anyone at the police department forget that her daughter still needed justice and that it was their responsibility to make that happen. And like I said, though, investigators said there wasn't enough evidence for an arrest. And so who got them that evidence?

Their family did. It turns out that Jim, Christy's dad, was really good with computers. And one time when Jason was complaining about his computer not working, Jim, of course, told him he would help him. And so because he now has access to his computer, he pulls his hard drive and he uncovered a huge piece of evidence.

an image. An image that was crucial to solving this case. And it was an image of Jason holding what appears to be a straw with a tray on his lap. And on that tray are lines of a white powdery substance. And if it's not already obvious, this image is highly incriminating because it shows that Jason was not only a drug user, but also someone who would have had access to the type of drug that

that was found in Christy's system. So as you can imagine, their family brings this evidence right into the police who had just uncovered some very interesting information themselves. And that was that just a few months after Christy's death,

Jason had been fired from his job for failing a drug test. And not only that, they also learned about Jason's other conversations with his coworkers about wanting his wife dead, about hiring someone to kill her and about getting pills to do so. So obviously the evidence is really starting to stack up here and it's not looking good.

But unfortunately, just when things felt like they might be moving in the right direction, Jason lured up and refused to speak. Yes, that picture was incriminating and the co-worker's possible testimony was damning, but apparently it wasn't enough. So then nothing happened for another two days.

painful years. And in that time, Christy's mother, Kathy, went hard looking for ways to get justice for her daughter, ways to hold Jason accountable in some way. And

And it was during her research that she figured out exactly what they needed to do. Rather than go after Jason criminally, they were going to go after him civilly through a wrongful death lawsuit. Kathy and Jim decided that a wrongful death lawsuit would be the only way to bring attention to the case and to help their family get some sort of action taken against their daughter's killer, even if it was just monetarily.

So they hired an attorney and once he heard the details of this case, he thought what we are all thinking. And that is why has this man not already been arrested? I mean, there are a million reasons why this should have been investigated immediately. But the biggest glaringly obvious reason is that

the drug was ingested orally and that is just not how it's done. Luckily though, this lawyer was like a dog with a bone and this lawsuit really ended up helping them move things in the right direction. Because even though Jason could lawyer up and not speak when it came to the criminal investigation, he did have to speak under oath during a deposition for the civil investigation. And through this, he had to answer the questions that he was originally asked the day his wife died.

among many other questions. Questions like if he cheated on his wife or was a drug user, and his story was questionable at best. For example, he was asked if he texted his wife that morning after he left the house, which he, of course, answered, yes, yes I did. He told him exactly what he told the neighbor, that he had texted her to make sure that she had woken up because he was worried when he hadn't heard from her. And then he was asked

if it was normal for him to text his wife in the morning to make sure she had woken up on time, to which he also said yes. But the thing is, that wasn't true. Jason never normally texted his wife any other time asking if she had woken up, being concerned if she had slept in. I mean, that was just...

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Another lie that they think he told was about whether or not he had slept in bed with her that night. He told them that he did, but when investigators looked at the bed initially, it didn't look like anyone had slept on his side of the bed. It looked completely undisturbed. And it was little discrepancies like this that made investigators question him more and more. But at the end of the day, they weren't really looking for little discrepancies. They were looking for little discrepancies.

So they brought out the big smoking gun that they had, which was the photo that was found on his computer. The photo of him doing drugs. Typically, I'm just going to say math. I'm sure you know what I mean by that, but got to be careful these days, I guess. But his excuse for this, which is honestly just so stupid that it's kind of funny, was that he was only doing it so that he could show his daughters not to use drugs.

Make it make sense, come on. Have you used drugs? Just prescribed. What are you holding in your right hand, do you know?

A straw. And what is that? There's a tray that's situated in front of you. What is the substance on the tray? Methamphetamine. And the bag that's in front of you that contains white powder, is that also methamphetamine? Yes. And I wish I could show you more video from his deposition, but unfortunately a lot of it is copyrighted.

But if you look it up yourself, you can see. But I can just tell you overall, he was not doing well during this. I think he knew the walls were caving in big time. His body language just really says it all. He went from sitting straight up to bent over, covering his face with his hands. I mean, it was just, it was a bad look. And everyone saw straight through the lies, including a jury. And finally, Jason Harris was fired.

Ultimately found responsible for Christy's murder in the wrongful death lawsuit in order to pay her family $2 million. But it wasn't the deposition alone that led them to that verdict. It was the other smoking gun they had, which I mentioned vaguely earlier, and that was Christy's breast milk. That's right, you guys, Christy's breast milk.

was the saving grace in this case. Thanks to the hours that she spent pumping and freezing her breast milk, and thanks to her family who had the foresight to save it, they were able to solve this case. When Christy died, there were upwards of 50 bags of her breast milk frozen. And her family saved it because they knew that testing that milk should show that Christy was not a drug user. And if they could show that Christy was not a drug user...

that would show that she didn't intentionally consume this drug. And I mean, I think anyone can see that. Going from no history of drug use at all to eating it out of nowhere, it was just a huge stretch that made no sense. And just a side note, that's another thing that really pisses me off about Jason is that he was willing to disparage

the mother of his children that way who was working that hard to provide her children with breast milk. I mean, breastfeeding is not easy. Pumping is not easy. I know from experience. I didn't last long without myself. It's really hard. I mean, I did have a breast reduction and that's part of the issue I had. That's totally besides the point. But I know from other people's experience in the short

that I did it, that pumping is really difficult. And for her to have put in all that effort to feed your child and then you disparage her that way and say that she was consuming drugs that she knew would harm her baby, it's just...

ugh, makes me so angry. It's so fucked up. And if you're thinking, why wasn't it tested right away if it was such a crucial piece of evidence? Well, it was tested right away. But even though it showed no traces of the drug, nothing was done about it. An investigator with Davis NPD was supposedly working the case, but this was the first homicide case that he had been on. And

Quite frankly, Christy's family didn't feel like he or anyone at that police department was equipped to handle this investigation, which is why they spent two years investigating.

pushing them to bring in state authorities. Michigan State Police did end up picking up the case in 2016. However, they didn't make much progress until 2018 when the civil case was in full swing and when that breast milk came back into play. And once it was retested and showed that Christy was not using drugs in the days, weeks, or even months leading up to her death,

they had their slam dunk and won the civil case. But for as great as that win felt, at the end of the day, it wasn't enough because Jason was still free. Yes, of course, he is $2 million poorer, but who really cares because he's still a free man. But luckily, it wasn't like that for much longer because in 2019, the medical examiner changed his ruling on the manner of death from accidental overdose to homicide, which opened the doors for the criminal investigation to move forward.

When it came to the criminal investigation of Christy's murder, investigators knew they had probable cause to make an arrest. I mean, just between the breast milk, the photo of Jason, the testimony from friends, family, co-workers, they felt positive they had enough to get a conviction. And so, an arrest was made.

Genesee County Prosecutor David Layton said Christina Harris's husband, Jason Harris, had a history of seeing other women outside of their marriage. Harris even allegedly told his co-workers he wanted his wife gone. The prosecutor says he even hired a hitman. Jason Harris had paid $5,000 to a guy to kill Christina.

And while this particular alleged hitman was doing surveillance on her, the hitman was caught by police with a firearm. The alleged hitman was on parole and sent back to prison. So investigators say Harris took matters into his own hands. However, two years after the medical examiner ruled her death an accidental overdose, a key piece of evidence was found at her parents' house. Police were able to secure evidence.

three plastic packages of christina harris's frozen breast milk that were placed in a cooler all three of those were submitted to the michigan state police crime lab in each instance no controlled substance was detected we believe jason harris murdered his wife

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And he's wild. For a limited time, visit Miro.com slash brainstorm now and get a free business plan trial to unlock even more brainstorming tools like private mode and voting. That's M-I-R-O dot com slash brainstorm now. Pre-trial hearings took place in August of 2019, and during that time, the judge heard a lot of damning testimony. And this included testimony from Jason's own brother, Jeff, who was someone who supported Christie's family from day one. He said,

He knew with every fiber of his being that Jason was her killer, and he didn't let the fact that he was his brother stop him from sharing the truth. And we've got to give him major props for that. You're not a betting man, but if you are for this purpose, you had $1,000. How much would you bet that your brother, Jason Harris, killed his wife?

I would bet $1,000. His former co-worker also took the stand and talked about the hitman that Jason told him he hired and what he believed was Jason's motive. He was just saying that Christina wasn't wanting to go back to work, that he believed the child they had wasn't his.

and that she was just laying around the house not doing anything and he was just getting tired of it. Zachary Ashustok also testified Harris tried to hire him as a hitman. There was a situation where he had asked me if I would kill her for him. All of this was evidence in the prosecution's favor and their case only got stronger when the actual trial began. Jason's trial began in November of 2021 and he was facing a total of three charges. First degree murder,

solicitation of murder and delivery of a controlled substance causing death the defense would try to argue that christie was a drug user who knowingly ingested this drug but the evidence that disproved this was obviously way too strong not only was the breast milk solid proof that she wasn't doing drugs but even before that she had no history of drug use

And when you give birth, they give you a talk screen to determine if you had done drugs during your pregnancy, possibly putting your child's life at risk. And hers came back completely clean. And so did every drug test that she had ever done for work in her past. She literally had zero history of drug use at all.

So no matter how hard the defense tried, they could not paint Christy in a bad light. Jason, on the other hand, looked real bad, especially once the prosecution laid out his motive. And I know we've sort of gone over this before, but let's go over this motive in more detail now. It was really a combination of a few things, and this included the affairs, the fact he didn't want to get a divorce and have to pay child support for the second time, and to avoid that, he poisoned her cereal with alcohol.

Now, personally, I was wondering about this, and I'm sure some of you may be asking yourselves this question, too, and that is,

if the drug was in the cereal, how did she not detect it? How did she not taste it? Well, apparently, the experts said that the milk would have masked the taste of it. And I don't really understand how that works. I don't know how strong it would taste. But that is what they said. They said she absolutely could have consumed it without even knowing at all. But one thing I couldn't find out was how Jason acquired the

the drug and maybe investigators couldn't figure that out either because that was never brought up in trial but i mean they were able to prove that he knew several people who could have gotten it for him of course there was that photo of him doing drugs himself but also the conversations he had with co-workers about acquiring pills

So, I mean, there obviously were plenty of ways he could have gotten a hold of it, especially when you think about how rampant drugs are in our country. But it's safe to say that all that evidence points in one direction. And on November 17th, 2021, Jason Harris was found guilty on all three charges by a unanimous jury. And I can't even imagine the relief that must have washed over this family when they finally got justice after all these years. I mean, I'm sure they had moments where they thought,

Is he truly going to get away with this? Are we ever going to get there? And to finally have that justice must have just felt, I mean, there are no words. It would feel incredible. Jason finally being seen for exactly who he is, which is a lying...

scumbag who is willing to kill the mother of his children must have just been worth all of the struggle that they had been through all of those years. And that's basically what the judge said to him during his sentencing. It feels so nice to say this, but Jason was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, and the judge did not hold back when it came to speaking his mind on everything.

Life in prison with no possibility of parole. That was the sentence handed down today to Jason Harris and the murder of his wife, Christy Thompson Harris. That happened seven years ago. I was in the courtroom this morning as the judge told Harris, justice may have been delayed, but it is not denied. The jury didn't believe your lies. And now we're finally exposed for the selfish, murdering, lying monster that you are. What you wanted, all the stuff, you sacrificed your daughters.

You took away their mother. That's the first thing you did. You took away their mother. And I really loved seeing this. I find it so...

to see a judge kind of break character and get to really say how they feel, really pack a punch to that criminal at the end. I mean, it's just satisfying to see. But at the end of the day, yes, justice was served, which is fantastic. I'm sure it was just such an amazing moment for this family. But justice does not bring Christy back. It doesn't give her poor daughters, their mother back, and her family, their daughter back or sister back or anything.

Anyone who loved Christy will forever have that pain. Yes, Jason will rot in prison until the day he dies, but their family will carry that pain forever. They have quite literally spent the last decade fighting for Christy, and that didn't end well.

when the trial ended. Because, of course, Jason appealed his conviction. However, that appeal was denied, thank God, and the conviction was upheld in January of 2024. But, unfortunately, it's possible that he keeps trying. I mean, likely, in my opinion. And if he does, and every time he does, it's going to re-traumatize this family. And the fact that they have to go through that just...

breaks my heart. Now, when learning about this case, obviously a lot of things came to mind when it comes to domestic violence in general. And it made me think of that saying that goes,

don't teach girls not to be victims, teach boys not to victimize. And I know that it goes both ways and men and boys can absolutely be victims of domestic violence as well. It happens very often. Women can certainly be the perpetrators as well. But when it comes to this case, Christy was the victim and Jason was the perpetrator. And so I started doing some research on different domestic violence organizations, which I have donated to a couple organizations

you know, over the years. And I found a new one that I thought was really cool. It's called A Call to Men. It's a nonprofit, and I think what they're doing is incredibly important work. And I'm going to just read a little blurb directly from their website because...

I think they put it best when describing their mission.

The messages that the media and culture bombard us with tell us that women are objects, property, and have less value than men. Our job is to raise men and boys' consciousness about their collective socialization so that they can think critically about how they might be reinforcing or passing on these harmful beliefs, and so they can challenge those beliefs in other men."

Because we address the root of these problems from domestic violence and sexual assault to sexual harassment and workplace discrimination, we are paving the way for gender equality. And I think this really embodies the idea of rather than teaching people not to be victims

Teach others not to victimize. Helping boys and men understand how to become allies rather than enemies is deeply important work, and I think this organization is doing something truly amazing. And that's why this week I want to make a donation to them in Kristi's name, and I will have their website linked below, of course, if you also would like to make a donation as well. I know I have a predominantly female audience, but I also have a lot of men in my audience as well, which...

I'm sure a lot of you are really amazing. I mean, there are so many, so many good men out there who are setting good examples for others, but we all probably have men in our lives that could benefit from something that this organization offers.

That is going to be it for me today, guys. Thank you for joining me for another episode and make sure you follow the show on Spotify and Apple podcasts. It really does help me out. If you want to watch the video version of this show, you can find it on my YouTube channel, which will be linked, or you can just search Kendall Ray. I will be back with another episode soon, but until then stay safe out there.

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