Why America Needs a Right Wing Revolution
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My good friend, Turning Point USA founder, host of The Charlie Kirk Show and author of the new book, Right Wing Revolution, the one and only Charlie Kirk. What's happening, buddy?

Don, great to see you. Don, if there's one person who could take a lot of credit, in fact, the most credit for Turning Point success and everything, it's you. You've always believed in us from the very beginning. You know, there's a lot of people that say I was there when, but Don, I was, you believed in me and our movement when I was wearing oversized suits and, you know, traveling across the country. I was yelling at you. You can't go to a donor meeting with that belt. It's falling apart. You look like a schmuck.

And I'm not one for high fashion, so that's saying something. And you've always believed in us, and now you're publishing my book, which is just so cool, and it's doing really well. So, Don, you've been a great friend, and it seems like the revolution that you and I have been part of, it just doesn't stop. It's been, what, nine years now, and it's not going to slow down anytime soon. That's for sure. No, and I think so much of it was underway for so long, actually, Charlie. I mean, I think it was there. It was sort of the phenomenon of Trump that really...

got the other side to expose themselves. I mean, I think we've been under attack for decades. It wasn't just the last eight years, nine years that that's been going on, but it's accelerated so quickly. So the new book is about how to save the West, which I legitimately think like our civilization is at threat. The leftists, they're not even pretending anymore. How do we save it?

Yeah, that's right. And Don, I mean, like you 15 years ago, would you have ever said that? Of course not. I mean, the stakes are higher than ever. And they've done a methodical takeover of our institutions. So we talk about in the book a couple things. The first and foremost, we must be we must care less about what they call us. And this is what we call the big Trump lesson.

that DJT and yourself, it does not matter what names they call you. It does not because they use name calling as a weaponized tactic to try to get you into a place of paralysis and to try to get you into a place of submission. They want you to bend the knee. They want to call you all the worst names that they could call you. So there's a whole chapter of

my life story on how it used to impact me when the New York Times would call me a racist. Now, I literally couldn't care less. It's like, oh, it's a day that ends in Y. You call me a racist or you call me a misogynist, could not care less. Then we also, the way that we beat the woke is we also have to have a legitimate opposition party. You know this, John, I am highly critical of the Republican Party.

because they deserve it. The Republican Party does not fight to win. The Republican Party is like the Vichy French. They are the moderate wing of the Democrat Party. We must understand that, that most Republicans are actually part of the Democrat Party when it comes to sending money to Ukraine or allowing our borders wide open. And so one of the chapters we have here in Right-Wing Revolution is curiosity.

Curing Red State Laziness. Again, there's so much information in this book. I encourage the audience to get it. But one of the things we talk about is how many red states we control. And let's just apply it. I know, Don, you might not be able to comment on this, but you could talk more broadly. Why is it that red states have not used their prosecutorial or investigative authority to indict the left?

You look at what Letitia James has done to your family. Letitia James did to the NRA. Why do we not have Attorney General Marshall in Alabama? Very sweet guy, very pleasant. But why is he not using his office to go after the Southern Poverty Law Center? Why are we not investigating BLM? There's a whole chapter in this book that if we're serious about beating the woke, we must recognize we actually control more of this country than we realize. We control 29 governor's mansions,

31 Attorney General's office. Think about that. This is a majority right-wing country. And that's the whole point. Only three of them are weaponized against their political opposition. They all happen to be Democrats. It's amazing. But you see that. You're right. I mean, in the comments on here, so much of it is like, well, we're all complaining. We're all bitching about it. But what do we actually do? And I think you're right. That apathy. Some of the most conservative states

in the entire union have literally the weakest conservative leadership at their helm. And I never figured that out. I don't understand it. You could run a great America first patriot, someone that, and you know, the Washington DC pseudo Democrat that just has an R next to his name, but is functioning like a Democrat seems to always pull it off.

So I have a theory about this. I talk about it in the book, which is if your state is too red, Democrats that like actual Democrats, not right, like actual Democrats, then they run as Republicans. There's no chance that Democrats get elected.

And so let's, you know, you take states where they are, where you should have great representation like Kentucky or Texas or Idaho, and you get some of the most moderate senators that you could imagine that are effectively Democrats. However, when states are not that right wing and you have to compete, you actually get better representatives. For example,

Wisconsin, Ron Johnson is amazing. And Ron Johnson has been a great fighter for the America First agenda. And he's been a great fighter for your father. J.D. Vance in Ohio. Ohio is a red state, but it's nowhere. It's not like Oklahoma. So you actually get better representatives when you have to earn your voters and you get better Republicans when there's actually a Democrat party around. And I know that might sound like a little weird, but when...

when there's only one show in town in Idaho, in Oklahoma, where do the Democrats go? They're still there. They run as Republicans, not as Democrats. And so curing that red state laziness, and we need to, as America first Patriots,

as those of us that are part of the MAGA movement, we must hold our Republicans to a higher standard. In this book, I go into detail. Everyone complains about CRT, right? Everyone complains about diversity, equity, inclusion. Got it. Why is it then that $120 million a year in Oklahoma is spent on schools that have LGBT centers, Q plus centers that have DEI and critical race theory? It shouldn't happen. The 77 counties in Oklahoma voted for Donald Trump, every single county.

And yet they have some of the wokest left wing schools in the country. That's just one example of hundreds that we have in the book. And curing that red state laziness is so important. And then finally, it needs to be an attitude shift. Far too often, I run into Republicans that say, well, we want to save the country, but we do not want to stoop down to the level of the Democrats. Honestly, Don, I used to believe that. I used to be like way more like principled. We've thought about that a couple of times.

I know. No, of course. I mean, that was like 2017 Charlie Kirk or 2018. And like, I kind of like cringe at myself back then, but honestly, that's it. I talk about in the book, that kind of development of that I've went through was a really necessary one because I used to believe in our institutions. I used to believe that like the winner is the one that has the better argument. No, no.

The winner is the one that is willing to use political power when necessary. That is a brutal truth, Don. I don't like that. I wish it was a coffee shop debate. I wish we were fighting Democrats that cared about who actually had the better argument. So again, don't mean to go on too long about that, but we must be willing to use political power to reciprocate because if we don't, we are going to have great ideas in jail.

Yeah, no, I agree with you. And I've been saying it for a while. We can't play t-ball while they're playing hardball. It doesn't work. And they're more than happy to let us play t-ball. And it's an easy existence if you're a Washington, D.C., sort of weak Republican. You know, you can be Republican 90, 85 percent of the time. But, you know, as long as you fold when it actually matters, you have that easy existence. But, you know, I will say when we look at what's going on right now, you know, you joke about being carted off to the gulags like,

I don't actually think it's a joke. I legitimately think that's on the table. I can see that based on what they've tried to do to me over the last eight years, what they're trying to do to my father, what they did to, you know, Jay Sixers and even incredibly peaceful people taking selfies inside the velvet ropes. And, you know, it's a disparate treatment. Every time, every election cycle, everyone's always said, well, this one's the most important ever. I mean, this time it actually...

Really feels like it used to be a cliche. But when you look at what they're actually doing, not what they're saying anymore or what they're perhaps alluding to a little bit, but what they're actually doing.

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Does it become too late at a certain point? Is there a point where, you know, the pendulum just swings so far that it can never get back to center or certainly to the right? How long can we withstand, you know, millions of illegal immigrants coming here that are purely designed? I mean, they're saying it out loud. It says, hey, we're losing those demographic. We're losing African-Americans. We're losing Hispanics. So let's bring in people that will be permanent dependents and will vote for us.

It can get too late. I mean, and the United Kingdom, I think, is like 10 years ahead of us. I don't think the UK can be saved in its current form. I'm sorry. I mean, you were just there. It's a husk of its former self. And it's a really sad country. And it's too bad because it used to be a really great country. Of course, there is a breaking point. I don't think we've reached that breaking point. I think there are more decent Americans than indecent Americans. And to your point here, that's why we need the right wing revolution now.

now. And it ties in perfectly with the MAGA movement. And let me be very clear, right-wing revolution sounds like really radical. Do you know what I argue for in this book? You know this, Don. Getting married, having children, turning off your phone, spending time outdoors, going hunting like you would enjoy, right? Or I would enjoy more like going for a hike, right? Like getting away from your devices. Actually, an ordinary, boring, simple way of life is what I argue for in the book.

And here's the best analogy that I could give is that if you're trying to go north from Washington, D.C. to northeast to New York, and you look at your GPS and all of a sudden you're in West Virginia, you're way off course. And in order to even get back on course, you need to go east before you can go north. That's very similar to the American political context. We've gone so far to the left that what is right wing is now actually very moderate, that what is considered right wing –

So you get everything that's not the radical left is right wing at this point. If you don't, you know, if you don't subscribe to, you know, a three year old should be able to, without parental consent, go through life altering sex change operations. You are a right wing extremist. You are a fascist, Charlie Kirk. So you're right that if you took the bell curve and this used to be center, literally, and this is a far left, anything,

Out of the second standard deviation is extreme right wing. And I'd argue that today's conservative movement would be quite left of center compared to historically. We keep moving left being reasonable, but I think our reasonableness, unfortunately, is eating us alive because they just chip away at it each and every day. It's always a death by a thousand cuts.

Oh yeah. I mean, JFK would be considered a far right extremist in today's American political system. They'd be like, JFK is a fascist because he's asking not what the government can do for you, but what you can do for the government. How dare he say that? JFK believes, you know,

that there's a God, I mean, like this, you know, they would, they would be slandering him. And so that's why that's the book. In some ways, the title is provocative intentionally. So to get attention and to try to get people to read it. And it's true though, we want to write a revolution, but we're not asking for anything that is that dramatic. What we want is to understand that we want the country we grew up in. And you more than me, Don, you remember the country. And I lived in it for a poor,

period of time, it was a darn great country. It really was. This is a new phenomenon. I feel so bad for your kids. I just saw them. They're looking great in Detroit. And I feel bad for the younger generation. They really have no grasp of what America used to be. And I know that we sound kind of like boomers when we say that, but we're not. I mean, it was the country of like- Well, I'm getting close. I'm getting close. I know, but- I'm desperately trying to hang on to my youth, but man-

I'm 30 years old, so I'm kind of like in the middle. I'm youngish, but father of two. Like 15 years ago, when I was 15 years old, this was a great country, right? And we didn't talk about race all the time. There was no drag queens. There was not Pride Month. July 4th was like the greatest weekend of the year. And I'm afraid we lost that. We can get it back. And I believe Americans want to get it back, but it's going to take a revolutionary spirit and mindset.

Yeah, I'm old enough to remember when Easter Sunday was Easter Sunday and not Transgender Day of Olderness. Which, again, like...

It's not like they're not aware that they did that. Oh, it magically happened on Easter Sunday. They knew, and they're so radical, the left that's in charge in Washington, D.C., that it became okay. But I will say this. I don't think we're beyond saving it. I saw that this weekend when I was at the Turning Point Conference in Detroit. I mean, Detroit, Michigan. We had, what, 6,000, 7,000? I don't know what the final number was, but it was a big crowd when I spoke. It was 8,700.

Yeah, it was huge.

lost me. So, you know, what you guys are doing there, and for those of you who are watching, who have young kids, you know, check out a Turning Point chapter, you know, if they're in college or in high school, you know, get them involved in all of this. There is a momentum, and we're breaking through that, the stigma of being a conservative.

You'll appreciate this. I was fighting off conservatives back in the day. They took issue with me talking about vaccines, HPV vaccine. They took issue with me advocating for morning after contraception and things. They took issue with us having conversations about the kinds of things we were talking about on Loveline back in the day. So I was always batting that off. And I wasn't sure where I was politically, but I always kind of assumed I was like a classical liberal. Now,

Now it's getting confusing to know what anyone is anymore. And I want to ask you, what is conservatism? What is that now? It's a great question. Very simply, it's about protecting the best we have to offer so our kids and grandkids can enjoy it. That's it. It's protecting the best. It's conserving. Interject, please. Well, the best as laid down in the Constitution, best according to whom?

Sure, exactly. What is objectively best? For example, so having children, which we're not doing a good job of conserving, that's an objective good for the species. So let's just, one thing we talk about in the book is the birth rate is plummeting. The fertility rates are the lowest they've ever been in American history. And the idea of having children is now a luxury item for those that can afford it.

the idea of homeownership. So I think that's an objective good that helped build Western society. You have your land, you're able to caretake for it. This is my place. I'm going to steward it. Well, homeownership is now at record lows for young people. So we are, we are increasingly losing that under Joe Biden, under Donald Trump, we're

required about $71,000 a year in annual income to purchase a home according to Zillow.com. And now with Joe Biden, it requires about $125,000 a year to purchase a home. So the best is also, that's why it's such an interesting statement, my answer, Dr. Drew, because we could spend two hours of what is the best by what standard by whom? Well, the agreed upon way in the West of how we have experienced

explored and defined the answer is those things that are good for their own sake. And that is an Aristotelian answer. It's awfully philosophical, but you don't have to dwell on it too much to say that children is good for society. Marriage is good for society. When drug addiction goes up, that's a bad thing. You've been a hero on that topic. So happy to throw it back to you. But conservatism is about protecting the best we have to offer so that young people and future generations can enjoy it like we have.

So you're saying something that is a good with essentially a capital G in and for itself, right? That's how you sort of would define that. But embedded in what you say was a deep pragmatism and objectivity about what's good for people.

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If I pulled out and just said, you know what? I'm into pragmatism. I thought we have become ideologues and pragmatism has been lost. Would I be still a conservative?

Yeah, absolutely. And so I think we must understand that abstractions have probably hurt the West in the last 20 or 30 years. I'll give you one example where I have gone to war within the conservative circles. This idea that we need to be the world's policemen and that we need to spread democracy abroad. I think it's an insane idea. I think it's caused a lot of human carnage and suffering. That is an abstraction, meaning it sounds good in a talking point or how about this one? We need to fight the terrorists there so we don't fight them here.

In reality, has that actually been the case? Have we actually seen a decrease in global terror? Is our country safer? Has it been a good thing that we tried to spread democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan? So if you actually, if you read Russell Kirk, who I share a name of no relation and Edmund Burke, they actually were anti ideological and anti abstractions. And it was about things that are good for their own sake. As I mentioned previously, that all people can enjoy front, for example, finding your soulmate, having children, uh,

having strong communities and not necessarily always relying on the state or centralized corporate power. And I think as conservatives, we lost the plot. And I talk about this in the book, Right-Wing Revolution, in recent times where we're only skeptical of government power, but we're not skeptical of corporate power.

The blend or the flavor of conservatism that I advance in this book, and I'm not alone, there's many other people, J.D. Vance and Tucker Carlson who agree, is that we should be skeptical of Pfizer as much as we are skeptical of the FDA. It's not okay to say that, okay, just big government is bad. It's also that which is,

probably true in most cases, but also we must understand that big corporations can sometimes do even more damage to us than the federal government. They can poison us, they can censor us, they can lie to us. And so to answer your question, yes, pragmatism, and there's a better word for it. We use the word prudence. That is an ancient Greek word, which means prudence.

practical knowledge. People, you could spend years thinking about what does prudence actually mean. Two leaders in the last couple hundred years embodied prudence better than anybody else. Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill. There was no necessary blueprint or game plan for how to handle the stresses or the consequences of what their decisions meant, but both were great men because they were able to step up in times of

of unbelievable pressure and high consequence and face evil and be able to come out victorious. So yes, I actually think an anti-ideological, anti-abstraction movement is one that can unite the country and one that can defeat some of the more radical, let's just say, idea toxins that have been infecting the West. All right, we want to bring in Charlie Kirk now, the author of the new book, Right-Wing Revolution. Charlie?

and one of the smartest young people in this country. Charlie, it's good to have you back on the show. I want to ask you the same question I gave to the governor. Facing these horrific poll numbers, you've got Joe Biden seeming to go further left on immigration. What's your explanation of that? You

You know, you wonder if he's actually running to be the nominee. And you have to wonder that if you were trying to do radical stuff out of harmony with the voters, do you have some sort of plan that you're going to step aside, do the most radical stuff, and then kind of just no longer be the nominee? I don't know. That's just speculation. However, it is a theme, and it's a suspicious theme. Joe Biden's poll numbers are abysmal right now, down 18 points in Iowa, according to the latest poll. And yet Joe Biden keeps on doing things that are so radical, so out of harmony,

the mainstream of this country from Title IX to his immigration policies to the trans stuff, what he has been doing in this country has no resonance with voters. In fact, it is further disenfranchising voters. And it surely seems that Joe Biden is playing a longer term plan to destroy the country instead of actually trying to communicate with swing voters in these necessary states. It's something I talk about in my book, Right-Wing Revolution, which is how the Democrats

have been more and more concerned about pandering to ideological abstractions from the elites rather than everyday concerns from voters in this country.

The disconnect, you know, it's terrifying and it reminds you of a disconnect that you see in countries where there really isn't a free choice for the power, right? Where the power is perpetual. What the people want, what the people think doesn't really matter anymore. You see moves like this that are just, they have no regard for.

for the populace of the country that they're supposed to represent. And that's what's so scary to me. When you watch the power begin to just ignore the sensible things that people want, you wonder how much longer do you have a country where we actually get a choice in who runs this thing.

That's a very smart point. We talk about this in the book. What is the form and the structure of government that we have? You know, we're told that it's a democracy when in reality it should be a republic. But in actuality, we argue that it's an oligarchy, that we have a small group of powerful people that are disconnected with the wants and the needs and the concerns of the everyday American that truly

don't even care. In fact, they have disgust for the American people. They'll keep on sending money to Ukraine, even though it's not popular. They'll keep the border open despite us being invaded. They'll do the Title IX stuff and allow men in women's locker rooms and men in female sports

And it's because their incentive structure is they don't care about public opinion or popular opinion. Instead, they care about whether or not the graft continues and if the kingdom of Washington, D.C. is protected. This election, and we detail it in this book in high specificity, is going to be about what is the form and the structure

of the United States government? Do we want to go towards a representative government, consent of the governed, one where the people are put first and we the people are sovereign, or the oligarchy is protected, the one of the Bidens and the Pelosi's and the Schumer's and the Obama's? That is what is on the ballot this November. We detail it in the book to a great extent. And I want to live in a constitutional republic, not an oligarchic dictatorship.

Turning Point USA, a massive, very successful event in Detroit this weekend and beyond. Charlie Kirk, of course, is the guy who made Turning Point USA, Turning Point USA, a political dynamo, a force, and he's changing the world. Pretty amazing. Donald Trump is totally on his side. Of course, he was at Turning Point USA this weekend and had a few things to say about Charlie. So how that turned out, this is his guy, Charlie Kirk.

I want to thank you all. And I want to thank Charlie Kirk for everything he's done and turning point action for making this event possible. What a great thing. And Donald Trump has actually, I guess, kind of published Charlie's book. It's from Winning Team Publishing, which is affiliated with Trump. Right Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke and Save the West. Charlie Kirk, welcome back. How are you? Congratulations on everything. Great.

Thank you. Praise God. It's been an amazing couple of weeks. The best news, though, is that we welcome the new baby to the family a month ago. So it's been a wild month in the Kirk household. So we host the Trump in twice in 10 days. Welcome the baby. Young Women's Leadership Summit. New book. We couldn't have planned it better. So thanks, Greg. Praise God. Things are going well.

Hey, that's beautiful. By the way, now that you are a family man, do you feel even added pressure? You were a patriot when you were a bachelor, but now that you've got more of a stake in this, not that you didn't before, do you feel it? Is it different a little bit? Oh, yeah.

Absolutely. I mean, we have two under two right now, so it's wild. But I'll tell you that the stakes are higher and it is now my why. It is I look around at the decline of this beautiful nation in this country, and I'm not comfortable with what we're handing down to my daughter and my son. What are we doing to ourselves? We're handing an indebted nation, a country that's being invaded, a country where we have a leader that can't even speak in sentences. And boy, do we need Donald Trump more than ever. He was super,

so gracious at the turning point event. Uh, he's terrific. We're behind him a hundred percent. We're doing ballot chasing for him in Arizona, Wisconsin. And I talk about in the book, Greg, in great detail, the stakes of what we're up against and what every individual can actually do to save the country. The president has endorsed this book. It's called right-wing revolution. Uh, people can find it on Amazon or wherever books are sold 45 books.com as well. Um,

And I'll tell you, Greg, the stakes have never been higher. And we talk about the micro and the macro of what every individual can do to retake this country and to fight for better days ahead. It starts with identifying the threat, who are the woke, what do they believe, fighting it, confronting it, and then launching a counter-revolution, which we call the right-wing revolution.

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Well, okay, the right-wing revolution, that's on the macro, I guess. So people watching, they're going to get the book. And it's important to support you and Turning Point USA and conservatives. Liberals are always, they're writing each other big fat checks.

They've got some sort of system over there, you know, with the whistleblowers, January 6th. It's kind of gross what they're doing. This is truly on the merits. What are some basic things, though, that folks can do now, tonight, right now to, you know, save the West and beat the woke?

The number one thing, obviously tell the truth in every capacity always, but let me tell you an action item for your audience right now. This election, which obviously in order to beat the woke, we must win this election, will be determined by low propensity voters. Everybody in the audience should go and try to register low propensity voters and to find them. A low propensity voter is just someone I just saw in Scottsdale walking the streets, comes up, Charlie, big fan, just bought your book. He bought my book, Greg, and I said, are you registered to vote? No, no, no, I don't vote. I said,

so you will buy a book and you will not register to vote. He said, yeah, I don't believe it. It's all whatever, rigged or whatever. I said, no, no, no. I confronted him. We got him registered to vote, got him on the early voting list right there, Greg. We need every American patriot and citizen to take the election into their own hands. This is not a spectator sport. It is a participant sport. November will be won or lost based on the grit and the hustle of

the determination and the energy we put in in this summer. We call it low prop summer. The work that we do this summer to find the low engaged voters, the disengaged voters, the people on the fringes. Do you know Donald Trump is winning by nearly 30 points based on people that have not voted in the last three election cycles? Let me say that again, Greg Kelly, 30 points.

That means that if we find these people, the Uber drivers, the taxi cabs, the waiters, the waitresses, that Trump is not going to tax your tips. We write on the checks. We do that. We're going to have an expanded base coming in November. If we fail to do that, we are going to be in a dire situation where we might win in the polls and lose with the ballots. Charlie, welcome back. Hi, Eric. Look, you are.

one of the few people in the world that gives me real hope. I have joy just to know that you're doing what you're doing. You're doing a lot to save America. And you've got a new book out called Right-Wing Revolution, How to Beat the Woke and Save the West.

Charlie, where are we right now? Your team is working hard to make sure that Americans' votes actually count. Just the fact that you're willing even to talk about that. A lot in the Republican establishment, they won't even talk about the fact that the last election was stolen and that we need to fix this most fundamental of problems.

How do you deal with that, that there are people that won't even talk about this, whereas you're trying to fix the problem? Yeah, we talk about it in great detail in the book Rightwing Revolution. We talk about how we need an opposition party in this country, and we don't have an opposition party, and how there are tens of millions of people, upwards of 70, 80, 90 million people, who support Donald Trump and support our agenda and support the country course-correcting

But where is our voice? And outside of Donald Trump and outside of his movement, there is not an opposition party in this country at all, Eric. It is nowhere to be found. And so what we argue in the book is that we need to now build that opposition party. And revolution is a heavy term. It is a weighted term. And people say, oh, what do you mean, French Revolution, Russian Revolution? No, the spirit of the American Revolution, back to our roots, the spirit of 1776 revolutionized

We talk about in this book that the country will not be handed back to us on a silver platter if Donald Trump wins the election in November. Well, first, we have to force the issue to make sure Trump wins in November. But we kind of need that revolutionary type spirit. And, of course, I don't mean anything violent or any of that nonsense. That's how the media misrepresents stuff. I mean being revolutionary in our action, thinking offensively.

bigger, thinking more entrepreneurial, thinking more creative in our personal life, in the micro and the macro. So the book is Right Wing Revolution. It's doing very well. It's not doing as well as Letter to the American Church, but, you know, I'm not Eric Metaxas. But here's the book. Oh, oh, yeah. It's called Right Wing. Listen, by the way, who's the publisher of the book? Right Wing Revolution. Winning Team Publishing. OK, I'm not familiar with those guys, but let me tell you. They're Trump's imprint. They're great. Yeah.

Is that true? Yeah. I love it. Yeah. I love it. Winning team. Well, listen, the cover is awesome. You look great. The cover looks great. I want a copy of Right Wing Revolution. Charlie, congratulations on the book.

You know, you're someone, as I say, who you give me real hope. And I'm not joking. I tell people to throw money at you and TPUSA. If you care about this country, you care about the West. Because people say to me, what can I do? What can I do? You can sell your third home.

and give the money to people who are trying to save America. I'm not kidding, because if we do not win this election, and if we do not, and of course Trump is not enough, but if we do not do everything in our power to restore this nation to the founder's vision...

you're going to lose your third home. It's going to be taken away from you by the socialists who don't believe you deserve to have it. So I am very serious about this, folks, that we have a few months before the election. And if you have any money that you can put your hands on, give it to people who are trying to save America, because we don't deserve to have America. We're in a battle. We've let things slide for decades, and we're dealing with it right now.

Charlie's got like a hundred copies of his new book behind him, Right Wing Revolution, because, you know, this is how he built what he built. Charlie Kirk, Right Wing Revolution, how to beat the woke and save the West. All right. I've got so many questions to ask you, especially about what Turning Point Action's doing, the whole college scam thing. I've read a sample chapter of your new book about what is woke. So let's dive into that for a second.

Woke was meant to be like a cool thing, a good thing that the left said, I'm awake now. I know the reality about social injustice and what have you. It's kind of been flipped the way President Trump flipped the phrase fake news. So in a nutshell, tell us what woke is today and where it is. Are we winning? Are we losing? Is it 50-50? What's your analysis, Charlie?

Yeah, it's a great question. So we give a very simple definition of woke because some people stumble over themselves when they're asked the question, what is woke? Here it is. The woke complain until they control.

They complain about an injustice until they control an institution. It is a means to control society, a means to control the FBI, a means to control what they did not build. And that is critical. They do not build. And that is why when Elon Musk calls them a virus, it is a perfect term. They operate like a bacterial infection or a virus. They take over the host.

And they're very good at it. They're not good at running it because all they do is destroy similar to a virus or a bacterial infection, but they always look for another host once they've destroyed what they once previously infected. So to give a more philosophical answer, and we don't spend too much time on this, in the book, we describe it as a blend of three ideologies, really four, but it's three.

It's a blend of nihilism, postmodernism, and deconstructionism with a little taste, if you will, of Marxism. And Marxism is an important component, but it doesn't tell the entire picture. It is nihilistic because they believe that there's no purpose for existence. It is postmodern because they are trying to usher us into a post-truth era. And it is deconstruction because they believe anything that would once exist, that society or civilization was built upon, must be relentlessly challenged and deconstructed

to its core. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.