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By all of you in the audience, and it's just amazing how pastors are not talking about this, but two young men who attended a Kamala Harris rally and said that Jesus is Lord. And they are right. Jesus is Lord. But Kamala Harris doesn't agree.

And here to talk about the story and the separate fact from fiction of exactly what happened is Luke Pulaski, a UW-La Crosse college student, and also Grant Beth from UW-La Crosse. Good to see you both, guys. Thank you for joining the program. Luke, I'll start with you. Luke, tell us what happened at the Kamala Harris event. Charlie, it's great to be here. Thanks for having us. So, yeah, last Thursday we were at the Kamala Harris rally in La Crosse. It was held in our school gymnasium.

And we went there. We had really good conversations with a lot of people. But when she was talking about abortion and, you know, her policies and views on abortion, she was getting a loud uproar with the crowd, with the audience. And this is actually off camera. Something else I said, I started with saying I told her that abortion was the sacrament of Satan. And there's about 10 seconds after that that go by when somebody starts recording abortion.

And between us saying that, we were getting screamed at, yelled at. Grant was pushed on video. And then I guess, yeah, like I said, 10 seconds after that, we were saying Christ is Lord. Jesus loves you. Jesus is King. And that's when Kamala decided to, I guess, respond to us. And as I was walking away, there's a lot of people saying she wasn't talking to us. She was 1000% talking to us. I pulled this cross off my neck and

And I put it in the sky like this and I pointed to her and I kind of waved like this to her. She waved back to me. And that's when she said we should go to the smaller rally down the street. And then after after that, we got escorted out as well. I mean, we kind of had to leave. We were getting like I said, we were getting hate like hate speech thrown at us. Grant was assaulted. And then three people came over that we were unwelcome. We were unwelcome to the event and needed to leave.

So, yeah, I just want to make sure this is we're all very clear here. And Grant, welcome also to the program. Grant, is there any is there any mystery or ambiguity that what you said is Jesus is Lord and that she heard that and understood that? And so did the audience. Grant, tell us your version of events.

Thank you for having us, Charlie. Obviously, thank you for being a bastion of hope for young people in this country as well. What you do around the country on college campuses is extremely important for the future of this nation and the people in it. First of all, I want to say there's been a lot of words online saying that

We weren't telling our story correctly. We were yelling lies, lies, lies. I will say the only person that I ever said, oh, he's lying, is actually Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban was speaking and I said, oh, he's definitely lying. It's Mark Cuban. He's definitely paid to be up there on that stage right now and be on the trail with Kamal Harris. We know that as Mark Cuban has done before.

But there's a very good view from behind where we were standing. We were probably...

I would say 20 to 30 yards in front of Kamala Harris, a little to the left. And when she started talking about abortion, Luke mentioned that abortion is a sacrament of Satan. And then I followed that with Christ is King, Jesus is Lord. And people proceeded to start booing us. Kamala Harris realized this was happening and she responded to us.

And a lot of people saw Kamala HQ had posted us the best clap back. Kamala claps back in a rally when in reality she was attacking our faith and she was attacking, you know, a majority of people in this country. And that's a scary part of this situation. You know, not, you know, not us being, you know,

You know, shunned and yelled at and cursed at. And I was pushed by an elderly woman, so assaulted for our actions, but more so the implications of what this has on a country that is deeply rooted in faith.

and, uh, was built on religion. Um, obviously we have the first amendment right in this country to, um, practice and, um, protest of faith to people around the world. And I want people around the country and around the world to understand what something like this does. Um, if Kamala becomes president, she is now publicly against religion in this country. And, you know,

Kamala has pandered to people in this country for the last couple of weeks and, you know, on her in the campaign trail over the last couple of months. And I think it's important for my fellow college students, men and women alike, to understand that no matter if you are religious, you can come to God and, you know,

Having faith is a step to having a relationship with God and to have that wiped away by a president, to have that denounced by a president is extremely, I want to say violent in a way. And it is a scary thing to happen so publicly. That's the reason I'm speaking here to you today, Charlie. And that's the reason we want on Fox News is we're,

We need to stand up to the powers that be in this country. I totally agree. And I just want to play the clip here. So again, there's no, she could have heard something differently. There's none of that. Okay, so these are the two young men who say Jesus is Lord. And here is how Jezebel responds. Play cut 13. With the intention that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade, and they did as he intended.

Oh, you guys are at the wrong rally. So just to be very clear, you guys are not you guys are not heckling. You're saying Jesus is Lord, which again, she could have very let's just say politely said, OK, guys, this is not you know, let's not interrupt. You have your views. Instead, she tried to get a viral moment. So am I missing something in that summary of events, Luke?

No, that's exactly what happened. And I want the audience to know that this venue is only about 2000 people and it was a small gymnasium. He 100% heard us.

He was 100 percent talking to us. Wait, hold on. Kamala Harris can only draw a crowd of 2000 people in Wisconsin. That's that's actually the buried lead. But Grant, is that the correct summary of events that the current vice president hears you say Jesus is Lord and she wants to kick you out saying that you're at the wrong rally? Go to another rally. Is that correct? And the mocking of God, is that right?

Yes, that is correct, Charlie. I was clearly walking away in the video and I shouted Jesus is Lord. And then she proceeded to say we were at the wrong rally, yada, yada, yada. Yes, that is the correct sequence of events. And that did happen. She did denounce our faith live in her event.

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Kamala Harris is wired to be repulsed by the name of God. She mocks God. Again, everything Democrats love, God hates. Let me say that again. Everything that Democrats love, God hates. And if you're a Christian that votes for the Democrat Party, you are voting for things that God hates. That's between you and God. Think about it. If you're voting for the Democrat Party, you're voting for stuff that God hates. This is a different political instinct. Our reflex is pro-God, pro-worship of the divine, that there is a God, it is not him. Play cut 16, J.D. Vance.

Anti-Christian rhetoric and anti-Christian approach to public policy. I don't think we've I don't think that we've that's right. Jesus is king. And I don't think that we've seen I don't think that we've seen anything like this in modern American politics. So, Grant.

totally different political instincts. I want to kind of broaden this a little bit. Give us a summary of what you're seeing on campus amongst your colleagues, young men, young women. You could differentiate between the two. What are you seeing on the ground when it comes to selection in Wisconsin? Well, you know, I've received a lot of good messages from people that I haven't talked to in a long time. People who see our interview on Fox News and how much, uh,

you know, how big this has gotten. And that's the biggest thing. Um, you know, we are at a critical point in this country's history, um, where our young people are being exposed to so much in the schools and so much, um, online, um, good and bad, um,

It's important for students to understand. And in my personal experience, you know, even my experience at the rally, I saw many young people, people who are trying to understand, you know, who should I vote for? The clarity in understanding that Kamala is against religion is

This country was founded on religion, and we need to understand that Kamala Harris is against a majority of the people in the United States. She is not a good person.

And not someone fit to run this country. But, you know, my personal experience with other students and talking to other students in the last few days, people are sick of what is happening in this country. And this is not this is not my dad. This is not, you know, adults telling me I can't vote for Kamala Harris. You know, all this stuff. No, this is the truth.

And, you know, there is going to be a spiritual uprising in this country. We need to bring faith back to this country. And many of my fellow classmates agree with me, including Luke. You know, that is how me and Luke connected through our faith and through our love of God. And I hope that as a young man in this country, that we can expand faith in this country and bring faith back into this country.

I love it. Luke, final thoughts. You're about a minute and a half remaining. Yeah, I guess the message to Kamala is that she, I guess, disrespected our entire religion and everything we stand for. And I feel it's kind of shocking that she hasn't come out. And I don't find it shocking, but I feel like she does respect

or should comment on the issue. I just saw JD Vance. He just showed the clip last night. He handled the situation like an adult. And all I do is I encourage everybody to vote. But for those that do, I encourage the Christian family to not compromise our faith and morals for a woman who clearly does not care about our faith and morals in this country. Very good, guys. Thank you so much. Luke and Grant, God bless you. Hope to meet you soon. Thank you for your moral clarity. Thank you. Thanks, Charlie.

And let's just think about this, guys. Those two young men have more courage than most pastors in America right now. They're willing to speak out. They're willing to tell you what is right. And yet one out of three Christians will not vote in this election. One out of three Christians. If we lose this election, it will be because of the silence and the consent of the church.

According to George Barna, we have a 13 point decrease in Christian enthusiasm this election cycle versus prior election cycles. We're getting tons of emails of people, pastors that are doing nothing, nothing. Would you be willing to say out loud that abortion is the sacrament of Satan? These young men did, but most pastors are trembling. They're quivering like a leaf. These young men are an inspiration. Go vote in their name. Go vote right now and say, because of Grant and Luke, I'm going to go vote. Get a friend to do the same.

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She does an amazing job and she is on the front lines making sure this election is secure. We drive turnout. Laura, welcome back to the program. How are you doing? Thank you. Well, I'm honored. Thank you. An important guest. I'll take it, Charlie. Thanks so much. Very much so. So, Laura, give an update of what we're seeing on the ground, especially out of your home state of North Carolina.

If I understand correctly, North Carolina terribly just ravaged by these storms was awful and then had some historic early voting numbers out of Western North Carolina. Tell us about your home state of North Carolina.

Yeah, well, obviously, I'm sure I don't have to tell your audience. North Carolina is a must-win state. If you remember back to 2016, Hillary Clinton famously called North Carolina her firewall, said that that was a must-win state. Obviously, Donald Trump won it in 2016. He won it in 2020, maybe by a thinner margin. And there are certainly many people who've moved to North Carolina from the Northeast. And so it is a very purple state, Charlie.

That said, I think the messaging that we have tried to send out there from the RNC and the Trump campaign of voting early has really resonated with people in my home state. The first two days of early voting were last Thursday and last Friday in North Carolina. And traditionally, you see with early in-person voting, Democrats often

Always have a lead. It's like 20, 80 in the Democrats favor. 80% of early vote totals always favor the Democrats. What we've seen in North Carolina is honestly historic because right now we are actually up by over a thousand ballots

in North Carolina on the Republican side for early in-person vote totals. Never seen it before, Charlie. And if you talk about the hurricane hit areas, this is the western part of the state. Obviously, people have been very concerned. Will these people have an opportunity to vote? What's the RNC doing? How are we assisting anybody there? We actually took a 10-point plan to Governor Roy Cooper

and to the General Assembly there in North Carolina about 10 days ago, and we said, we want to make sure that everybody in North Carolina has an opportunity to vote in this election. They took into consideration all of our points. They actually implemented all of them. And if you look at some of those Western counties, these are very red counties on the outskirts of Asheville, and they're important because they offset places like Asheville, which obviously we know is a very blue area. They have seen historic progress

vote totals in early voting. So the whole point I'm trying to make is things look incredible right now on the Republican side of the aisle. Now, I'm going to say that with this caveat. Nobody get relaxed. Nobody take your foot off the gas. We certainly are not going to do that. But if we see this trend continue over the next 15 days, Charlie, it is going to be a blowout win for Donald Trump. So we feel very good about North Carolina. We've also seen

These early vote totals in many other states like Georgia, I was in Georgia on Saturday, lines wrapped around the block and all these early vote locations. We've seen historic turnout there in Georgia. Similarly, in Nevada, we've seen that Republicans are coming out in droves to vote early in person. So everybody get out there and vote. We have to continue to do this the next 15 days.

I love it. We're seeing that consistent in Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, in the battleground states. We're seeing that early voting surge. But Laura, talk about also the data shows that it is low propensity voters. We're doing much better low propensity voters than the Democrats. It's not just that we are eating into our election day voters. There's a little bit of that, but it's mainly first time voters or lower propensity voters that are engaging in the system early. Ryan Gerduski, in fact, tweeted over the weekend. Pretty amazing.

In Clark County, Nevada, Democrats are cannibalizing their high propensity voters at a much greater frequency than Republicans. Republicans are doing a better job at getting low propensity voters than Democrats. Laura, keep going, please.

Oh, yeah. And this is so important. Charlie, this is how we're going to win this election. It's with those low propensity voters. Obviously, we know the base is very enthusiastic about Donald Trump. But who are the low propensity voters? These are people who always vote Republican, but they may not have turned out the past three, four, five election cycles even. But we know when they vote, they will always vote Republican.

For us, we've used our data at the Trump campaign to identify who these people are. And we've mobilized our troops on the ground. This is our Trump Force 47 team. These people have identified via our data who these folks are, where they live,

what their phone number is, they've called them or they've knocked on their door and they've said, will you get out and vote? Now, here's what we've promised our Trump Force 47 captains. We've said, if you convince 100 of these low propensity voters to get out and vote for Donald Trump in this election, then you're going to come celebrate with us at Mar-a-Lago on election night. So everybody's very encouraged to

to continue signing people up and getting people out to vote. But you're right. That is how we are going to win this election. And so we're seeing huge movement with these low propensity voters and the beauty of everybody out there voting early. I know we send a lot of text.

I know we send a lot of emails. I'm sorry, but what we do when we know you have voted, we actually know about that. And so we leave you alone and we don't pull our resources into the people who we know have already cast their ballots. It allows us to get more of those low propensity voters out over the next 15 days and on election day. And that's how we're going to make it too big to rig and make sure Donald Trump is the 47th president.

uh laura i love that and that's also the emphasis what we're doing at turning point action too drive out low propensity voters specifically in arizona and wisconsin okay so laura i want to just kind of get to some things that people have a concern about these uakava votes uh the overseas ballots i know you guys have an entire operation at the rnc uh it's important to know that oversee ballot requests actually down by half since 2020 um and that there is a get out the vote operation that

the RNC is doing to try to get Republicans abroad in Israel, for example. What are the facts here? Because there's been a fair amount of chatter here. The news is actually much better about overseas votes, which is a very flawed system, we just have to acknowledge. But it's actually we're in a much better place when it comes to overseas balloting than we were in 2020. Laura, please educate our audience on this.

Yeah, you're right. It's a flawed system. But I think, Charlie, that's the overarching theme for our elections right now. And I think we all want to get back to one day of voting, voter ID and paper ballots across America. And we can see that day. But we've got to get through this system right now. We've got to get Donald Trump back in that White House. We have to have the House and the Senate. And then we can make actual change in this space.

and make it a really great system that really works for this country that doesn't leave sweeping questions and that's what we've tried to do at the RNC until we get back to that that moment we're going to tackle everything we possibly can ourselves so you have a couple of

states, for example, like North Carolina and Michigan, who were actually allowing people to possibly fill out these overseas ballots who were not residents of the state. The law stipulates that you have to be a resident of the states in order to actually cast a ballot. Anywhere we've seen any nefarious activity like that, we have sued and we've actually won. And so they're not able to cast those ballots in those two states.

But you're right to point out that the numbers are actually much lower than what we've seen in traditional elections. In 2020 election, for example, the numbers are much lower for these requested ballots. Now, we have put a big push out to try and recruit Republicans from across the world. These are American citizens who have the ability to vote. And we know they're Republicans and we want them to vote in this election. But any

concerned about this, believe me, we have eyes on it. And look, I think whether you're talking about the overseas voting, whether you're talking about illegals voting in this election, whether you're talking about making sure that we're requiring signature verification for the absentee ballots here in America, we at the RNC have really

really done everything possible and we have our eyes on everything. I think the problem the Democrats are running into right now, Charlie, is that they're truly finding it very hard to cheat. They're finding it very hard to cut corners because they know we are watching. They know how smart the American people are. And by the way, people send me things all the time and they say, can you check this out? The second you send it to me,

I'm going to check it out. I'll give you an example. Scott Pressler flagged a couple of weeks ago before the Butler rally where Donald Trump returned to Butler, Pennsylvania, that the state of Pennsylvania was for some reason going to conduct a revamp of their voter registration site.

The very hours that Donald Trump was going to be in Butler, Pennsylvania, what do we do at these Trump rallies? We say, are you registered to vote? If not, get registered right now. Go online right now and sign up. It was really a bit egregious that they decided to do it on October 5th when Donald Trump was there from the hours of I believe it was 5 p.m. to midnight.

So as soon as we saw that, the RNC tackled it, we addressed it, and they shifted those hours to be overnight hours so that it wouldn't interfere with our ability to ask people to get registered to vote in Pennsylvania. My point is, with all of these things, and especially with these overseas ballots, I know it's sort of the buzz of the moment that everyone is concerned about. I can tell you we're watching it all. I can tell you when we see problems, we address them immediately. But to what you just said, and I'll repeat it for the audience right now,

These numbers are actually down from what we have seen in the past. And so we have our eyes on it. We want to make sure every legal vote is cast and counted, but only legal votes are cast and counted. So we're watching this like a hawk as well. I know you guys are, and you have a much more sophisticated voter integrity app,

an election-integra operation than anything we had in 2020. About two minutes remaining here, Laura, can we just go through some of the states that are the high emphasis? Obviously, it looks like Pennsylvania. And there's also this news about Michigan as well. Can you just help us understand? Jocelyn Benson says that there's disinformation, but it seems as if 500,000 more people are registered to vote in Michigan than those old enough to vote. What is the fact of what's happening in Michigan?

Yeah, look, we're looking into all of this right now. Jocelyn Benson, by the way, Charlie, the fact that I know some of these secretaries of state by their names, it's very upsetting to me, but this is how often we've had to sue them and go after them because they're not doing the right thing. Michigan is a state that Donald Trump intends to win. And I think if you look at the numbers right now, you'll see it's trending very much in his favor in the state of Michigan. We're looking into this and anywhere that we're

We see anything that might be illegal. We're going to tackle it. We're going to request a full audit of what they have going on there. We've already had them clean their voter rolls. We cleaned 92,000 inactive voters off the Michigan voter rolls several months ago already. So we're looking into this.

When I get something to report back official, I'd be more than happy to come back on and notify your audience and let you guys know what's going on. But we can't have this. Look, we want free, fair, and transparent elections. And that has been our charge at the RNC. The irony, Charlie, is that we've reached across the aisle to our counterparts and

at the DNC and said, would you guys come be part of this election integrity push? Because we want every voter to feel great in America, that your vote matters and your vote counts. We have not yet heard back from the folks at the DNC. We'll let you know if we do. But truly, we're on top of all of it. And anytime anybody sees anything, send it our way because we have 15 days to victory. We're not going to let anything slide. We have a great legal team at the RNC and we have 500 lawyers in each battleground state

ready to go, ready to, at a moment's notice, tackle anything that they see that could be concerning. Everyone should check out Trump Force 47. Laura, great work. Keep on making sure the election is secure. Thank you so much. You got it. Thanks, Charlie. Hey, everybody. Charlie Kirk here. A large retail store just canceled a huge order, leaving my pillow with a ton of extra pillows.

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Kirk. All right, everybody, just a reminder, voting is available in every single battleground state right now. All set. Actually, Wisconsin, I think, starts tomorrow for in-person early voting. Now is the time to go make a plan to vote. This is really interesting. Actually, I think we played 14 already. But just to reiterate, we're seeing a much greater percentage of the electorate that's Republican than four years ago.

The electorate is becoming more Republican, not less Republican. And this is an amazing little sample size. And this should give you encouragement, everybody. I'm going to say this. We can win. Not that we will win. We can win. If you find every single low likely voter. And I want you to think about some person in your life.

Who's this? I don't know if I'm going to vote. You have to seize it. Get them there and tell me when you do it. Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. Do you want real evidence that we can win again? This is outside. Oh, Charlie, you know, the Venezuelan satellite companies are going to prevent us from enough of that there. We can win. Forget the polls. Even forget everything. Democrats would not all of a sudden be running advertisements showing that they agree with Donald Trump.

if Republicans and Donald Trump did not have a real chance of victory. Play cut 19. Dave McCormick and Eric Hovde, they're not running ads about how much they agree with Kamala Harris. It's the Democratic candidates who are running ads about how much they agree with Donald Trump. I think it suggests that what we've seen in our polling for weeks, what I think Kamala Harris has seen in her polling for weeks, is that Kamala Harris's policies just aren't popular. So people are trying to run away from it.

as much as they possibly can. This is a person, Kamala Harris, who cast the deciding vote on trillions of dollars in new spending, who signed on to the open border policies of the last three and a half years. Now she's trying to run as a change agent. Kamala Harris is more of the same. She governed that way. We will get even more of the bad policies in the last three and a half years if we promote her to president. It's why I think the American people are going to make Donald Trump the president of the United States.

Look, we are at a moment right now where it's all about turnout. That's right. This is a turnout game. This is a turnout game. And I'm looking at the early voting numbers right now on NBC News. Again, this is not totally updated, but they feed through L2, I think. In Georgia, Republicans up three points in early voting. Pennsylvania is a mess. You can't look at Pennsylvania. It's a lopsided deal right now. Arizona, Republicans up. Nevada. The question is, can we sustain this energy?

And Democrats are going to be in a state of panic. They are used to this major surge, and then it just kind of tapers down. The question is going to be whether or not we can find the voters that are less likely to vote. That's what it's all about. And right now, we are doing a much better job of finding our low propensity voters and getting them out to the polls. Who wants it more? Who wants it more? Democrats think they're going to win because of abortion, their ground game, the female vote, and Trump fatigue.

We can shock the world of all of a sudden you go bring an extra friend to the polls that has never been polled before. You go find an extra voter that has never voted before. Not just the high propensity voters, but the people that are a little shaky, the people that are a little uneasy. And this program right here, I could tell you, this program has been responsible for hundreds of thousands of votes already. Hundreds of thousands. It's a big deal. So to drain the swamp, we must swamp the vote. What if this program ends up being responsible for a million plus votes?

There are 15 days of voting remaining, 15 days. And I can tell you right now,

Kamala Harris is really panicky right now. They're really jittery. They don't know what to do. They feel as if something is happening. This country has become profoundly more conservative in the last four years. We are shedding the woke mind virus. We are resisting it. We internalized all this garbage during 2020. We brought in all of this crap of men can give birth and the BLM stuff and rioting in the streets and all that. And we're getting it out of our system. And now it's just going to be a matter of a numbers game.

Who can get more human beings to go vote? Who can get more pieces of paper in the ballot box? Who can get more people to actually participate in this election? Your task, your duty, and your purpose.

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