THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 65 — CEO Assassins? Best Christmas Movies?
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Thought Prime Thursday. I'm here, Jack Posobiec, coming to you remote this evening. I'm down here in Palm Beach, Florida. I've been conducting a number of

Let's just say activities inside and outside of the transition team also doing the show from down here watching as the greatest government that the United States has ever seen is being put together before our very eyes. Charlie Kirk, welcome.

also intimately involved in said activities. And in fact, one of those activities is currently taking up a little bit of his time tonight. And so we're actually sure if Charlie is going to be joining us. He was supposed to be here, but he may be flying in if he's able to do so. But do not worry. Do not fear because we've got a fantastic thought crime lineup for

for you tonight and a list of fascinating and wonderful crimes of thought to commit. And joining us as well is Blake Neff. What's up, Blake? Howdy, Jack. Good to have you. You look like you are inside the sun right now, but I'm sure it's all for the best. And...

I've got like a light. I've got like a light on my thing. I could turn it down. Am I still inside the sun? How's that? You're still somewhat inside the sun. As opposed to you, who looks like you've never seen the sun. Yeah, you know, it's just part of the color, as it were, or the lack of color, we might say. We have a special guest today because...

I think Andrew's on a plane, and I think Tyler was like, I have to help some Republicans or some lame excuse like that. Whatever. We have one of the men who made our victory in this election possible. This is Matthew Martinez. He is with Chase the Vote over at Turning Point Action. I would visit him every day before the election. I would go in, and I would say –

Are we going to win? And he would be like, 110%, Blake, we're going to win. And look at what happened. And we won. So if we'd lost, we might have thrown him off the building. But we won so he doesn't have to get thrown off the building. And instead, he's the hero. That's the stakes of winning and losing. Thanks, Blake. Thanks for the introduction. And you know what? I do have a little bit more sun. We're calling here at sunny Phoenix, Arizona. Spent a lot of time outside of my life.

Um, you know, and, uh, actually when I, before I got into politics, I actually did a lot of, um, AC work on roofs and attics. Right. So let's spend a lot of sun. So that gave me, you know, a little bit more of my complexion, right. Being here in Arizona, but, um, yeah, welcome. Thanks for having me on the show. Of course. Of course. Thank you. Thank you for stepping in. Uh,

Well, the first topic we have, I think we were all in agreement we had to hit this. We have armed lunatics murdering CEOs in the streets of America. The CEO of UnitedHealthcare, that's one of the nation's largest health insurers, was

You would say gunned down in the streets of New York, but that's kind of selling it short. He was basically assassinated. A guy came up, pulled a suppressed pistol, shot him, made a planned getaway, it seems. It seems police are closing in. They have a photo of him. They seem to even know where the suspect, kind of how he traveled up to New York.

Central Park. Yeah, he traveled there on a bus from Atlanta by the sounds of it. Now, they haven't released a name for the person, so my guess is maybe they were able to use security. I think they have

Have they released a name yet? I have to imagine they have a name by now. If you've got that much information, you know which bus he took, you know which... They're talking about the hostel that he stayed at. They have that. The bicycle he took, too. Well, I guess... I'm sure they would... I guarantee they have a photo. I'm surprised they wouldn't give out the name then so people could ask for information, potentially, if they know who they're looking for. But I guess...

Now that I think about it, they don't seem to do that in a lot of other cases. Well, Blake, you know, one of the things was that apparently the guy was traveling with a fake ID. So it could be that the name they currently have is the fake name that he used to check into the hostel. And then if he was traveling on the bus, then potentially, yeah, he wouldn't need...

You know, wouldn't really need to buy a ticket in name if you, you know, if you paid cash, if you did it in a smart way. So it's possible that they have a name, but it's just a fake name and they're just kind of, you know, whittling down. I mean, either way, here's what I want to say. So I understand we probably can't. Can we play the video or, you know, we're on Rumble, right? I don't know if that's...

if that's uh if that's doable or not but um the the question is though the first thing i want to say is that when this video first dropped i remember it was going viral people were looking at it charlie was looking at it he was asking me about it and people kept saying oh this thing is so professional it's a professional hit this is the real deal this is what it really looks like and i remember watching it going this is a joke

This guy's a LARPer. This is a guy who's just like watched too many Liam Neeson movies and like too many Jack Reacher episodes, Jack Ryan, and thinks he knows, you know, what he's supposed to do. And it was hilariously sloppy, hilariously bad. And I think that the more, it's like his gun jams at one point and then he slaps it. Oh, we're playing the video. All right, here it is. I mean, this is just despicable stuff. Just straight up despicable, evil,

disgusting. I've stayed at that hotel. You know, this is the Midtown Hilton. This is where Trump had his first victory speech in 2016. This is where Trump's victory party was. It was the same. If it's the same Midtown Hilton, which I think it is, this is where Trump held his 2016 victory, was in that very same hotel. I stayed at that hotel. I was there then. I was standing right

I remember at one point standing right there as Trump was walking in down that very same sidewalk. One was that November 3rd of 2016. And we're still fourth, you know, like three in the morning and I'm walking by and I watched there was a fire truck there. And I watched John Podesta's speech like on this like little TV that was in the side of the fire truck. And sorry. Yeah, no, I mean, it doesn't it's not connected to what what happened. It's just my memory of that.

That very same stretch of sidewalk is so vivid. And then to think that there was this murder that took place there was crazy. But what was the late, Blake, there's another piece of it where we also apparently found out how it is that this guy slipped his mask.

Oh, yeah. So just breaking now, we were seeing this. We have a photo of the shooter where his mask is down. And apparently the way they got this was a woman was flirting with him at the hostel that he stayed at. I called it. I called it. And asked him to pull down his mask while she was flirting with him. And then you can see there he's got his mask pulled down and is smiling at her. Wow. He's got that Macan face. He's got that face like a Macan face.

You know, I'm something of an assassin myself. Yeah. You can see it. A pure, like, you know, hideous incel shooter would have never made that mistake. He would still be on the run, like, no clues left behind. But...

There were some clues that were left behind, and this was, you know, apparently was done. So I remember one of the first things I said was, you know, why leave shells? You're leaving shell casings everywhere. They're going to be able to identify the gun. And it turns out that the shell casings were left on purpose with a sort of message. Do you have that?

I don't know if we have photos of it, but the actual words were it was delay, defend and depose. I think depose probably referring to like depositions that you would do in a legal case. And so that gets into the second part of this, which is so interesting, is he was he's a health insurance CEO. Health insurance companies are not super popular in America because they're the ones you have to interact with in our very expensive health care system.

healthcare costs a lot. They sometimes deny claims or contest claims. And, you know, the claim is especially that this company in particular allegedly is maybe more aggressive in contesting claims and

And so what you have on the internet, if you check Twitter or if you check the liberal haven of blue sky, you have people just overtly celebrating this murder. They're saying this is great. He got what he deserved. I hope this guy makes it out. Those words apparently are reference to a title of a book.

Right. This this book that was written, Jay Fineman, Delay, Deny, Defend, which is it's exactly what you're talking about. It's a book that was written about insurance companies who don't pay the claims, what you can do about it. So it was this whole like.

The famous, you know, in those circles, you know, cut up of the insurance agency, a real grievance, by the way, a true grievance. I'm not saying it's not a true grievance, but apparently the writing of the words on the bullet casings were a direct reference to this book, you know, that was anti-insurance companies. Yeah, precisely. And so it's a valid reference.

It's a valid critique to say that these companies deny too many claims, but it's very dark that you're seeing this pivot towards people just overtly celebrating a... what is an appalling murder in the streets. And...

I'll be honest, I'm a little upset. I think even on the right, I don't see people quite as opposed to this as they should be. You're young. You might have a good... I feel like there's a lot of pro... There's a lot of sympathy towards underdogs, however defined, even if they're criminals. Or just this sort of chaotic element among young people where they think America's a scam or America is rigged. And it makes them inclined to...

cheer for people who are violent criminals? It depends on the side of my generation, right? For these younger people, amongst students, if you're attending all these woke colleges, they're probably going to be parading a little bit more about this shooting, unfortunately. Sickening. It really is. It's a gross mindset to have. And this is, it could be anybody, right? These are the same people that were parading when President Trump got shot, right? Who, they were just all excited, right? This is disgusting.

Right. And these are also the same people who are against all these gun control or for all this gun control people. So it doesn't make any sense. It's an oxymoron, frankly, amongst these people. But there's also another factor or I guess set of people my age who who are.

recognizing what's going on, right? And they're seeing that this is sickening, regardless of political size or whomever it is, even if it's the most... Although he is the CEO of the eighth largest company in the world, I believe. Maybe the eighth largest health... Health, yeah, something like that. It's probably not the eighth largest overall. Now, I don't know. I don't know my companies. But regardless, even if the Robin Hood idea, right, what we care about, and a lot of my generation is...

is justice. I think my generation is probably one of the largest, has this mindset of justice needs to be served with whomever, right? That's why you see my generation protest at the drop of a pen sometimes, right? Because they want to see justice.

So it is we're seeing a mix in my generation. But I have also seen some things to some. I think I saw it on Blue Skies, the Democrat little organization, the Twitter of Democrats, Democrats and pedophiles. Yeah. Yeah. Well, two groups on Blue Sky.

You know what? Make sure to say right there. Maps, minor attracted persons, Blake. We don't want you mis- What do you even call that? Misorienting. Misorienting the pedos. No, we can't have that. This is thought crime after all. This is a very classy production. No, but here's the thing. With what's going on, this is- So, Blake, you and I did Chronicles of the Revolution last year.

the podcast series, which then we turned into the book Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them. And this is specifically the ideology that we wrote about in the book with Joshua Lysak came in and was the co-author of it. And we talked exactly about the ideology of communists and how this stuff spreads. They take grievances and then they decide that they can just kill people

maim, steal anyone who is on the other side of the grievance, whether perceived or not. So either a perceived false grievance or a real grievance. And sure, these are real grievances. I'm not saying they're not. We've all had all sorts of issues with health insurance companies. But that doesn't mean you can just pick up a gun and go start murdering people on the street. And the problem is that

when I see conservatives going in and saying, oh yeah, you know, take it to the elites, you know, take it to, take it to the man, et cetera. Guess what? They view you as the man too. They view you and Donald Trump and your family and anyone else's this because they see you as unhuman. They see you as an invasive species. They see you as standing in the way of their utopia. And ultimately,

It's not about justice and social justice and equity and all these fancy window dressing words that they use to kind of, you know, church it up to try to dress it up. No, it's about envy. It's about grievance. It's about petty resentment and hatred. And so rather than do something to fix the situation, they just want to

rob, kill, and destroy. And guess what? If these things are allowed to continue, they will rob, kill, and destroy everyone until they are the only ones left standing. And look, you know, I hate to say it, but, you know, we took a lot of crap when we put that book out, and it did very, very well.

And look, we saw this coming and it actually doesn't surprise me at all. And Taylor Lorenz, by the way, is someone else who she posted, I don't know what they call them on Blue Sky, but she posted it, made a post on Blue Sky where she was saying that, oh, and they wonder why we want to kill healthcare CEOs the day after, I guess the day of an assassination, cold blood like this.

And so people saying, well, wait a minute, isn't this Miss, you know, Covidian Taylor Lorenz? And she's so, so worried about Covid and she spent months planning this like book launch. So it would be Covid friendly and Covid safe. And we say, wait a minute, how could she be so worried about that?

and about getting one person sick, but she's totally cool with cold-blooded murder. Again, it's because they don't view you as human. They view you as something that is sub, something that is lesser, and they want you out of

away. And their reasons for it at that point actually don't matter because they will condone any level of violence in order to achieve their ends. It's all based in resentment. And by the way, it's the same thing that's been going back since the French Revolution.

Yeah. You know, you mentioned the Taylor Lorenz thing. I think we should highlight what she actually said since a lot of people can't actually see it. So like first, right after this happened, there was a news story with a separate healthcare company, Blue Cross Blue Shield. There was a dispute. I don't know the full details on it, but I guess Blue Cross was saying they were not going to pay for like the full cost of anesthesia in some surgeries and

And they backtracked on this because there was a lot of backlash to it.

All I would say is I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out there's like scumbag doctors out there who keep you under too long because then they can bilk insurer. There's a shocking amount of medical fraud in America. But whatever that case, even if they're really bad. And she replies to this. This is right after the shooting. And people wonder why we want these executives dead. And then she does various tweets. She like does all these various other posts on Blue Sky.

Where someone said, like, you're posting your own sentiment. She tries to backtrack later. He says, don't backtrack. People shouldn't celebrate murder. And she replies, murder? Like what happens every year to thousands of innocent Americans killed by greedy insurance executives denying their coverage? You should probably understand this because Taylor Lorenz is approximately your age, I believe. She's somewhere between 18 and 50.

These people are the same people who say, eat the rich. They've been saying this for many, many, many years, and it's been subliminal. This is absolutely subliminal. So when you have that same mindset, that same campaign of attack the rich, eat the rich, despise those who make more, right? It's going to cause motivation, and this is what we're seeing in New York. This is what happened just a few days ago. Yeah, and...

Hey, do you remember that movie Parasite?

Did you ever see the movie Parasite, the Korean movie, years ago? Yeah. Yeah. So that movie is... And it won, like, the Academy Award or something. And that was a movie where the left was loving this thing. They thought it was so wonderful. It was like, oh, it's this great, you know, this great film, blah, blah, blah. And that's exactly what it was about. It was about a...

group of people who go to work for a family

And yeah, it won Best Picture at the Academy Award. So it won the Oscar for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, Best International Feature Film. It won a ton of things. And it was the first non-English film to win the Best Picture at the Academy Award. So the first foreign film to win a non-English foreign film to win the Academy Award for Best Picture, this movie Parasite. And what was it about? It was about a family

that essentially hires a rich family that hires a working class family to go and work for them. And the working class family eventually just murders everyone in the rich family and ruins their lives. And it's...

the rich family doesn't actually do anything wrong to the working class family, but we're told that like the working class family are the heroes because they rose up and killed the rich people who like hired them. And I remember sitting, watching this movie, getting all these accolades saying, what's going on? Why are we supposed to hate these, these people who, okay. Yeah, sure. They, maybe they, they have this, you know, privileged life in terms of, uh,

wealth and in terms of how well they've done for themselves in their lives, and yet they don't really get into how hard they worked or any of the sacrifices they had to make to be able to get to that level, et cetera. We're just told that you're supposed to hate them because they're rich, and therefore the working class family is justified in killing the rich family because of the wealth disparity.

And it was crazy. And this won the Academy Award literally like five years ago. And I remember sitting there watching this going, why is nobody else talking about it? You're right. It's this eat the rich mentality. And yet it's totally been mainstreamed. Yeah. I mean, even I'm looking at our comments on the stream and, you know, we have Purple Daffodil saying it's like when people aren't sad when child murderers get murdered in prison. Well,

Okay, but a guy who runs an insurance company is not a child murderer. They are a person who runs a controversial business, and that may require a policy action. But what I've been warning, because I've talked to people relatively on our side who didn't care about this, were blasé about it, thought, oh, it seems like this guy deserves it. And all I have to say is the people who are defending this would defend –

Any other like...

un-famous white guy CEO getting shot. They would find a reason to justify it. They'd say, he pays a low wage. He doesn't pay workers enough. There was a sexual harassment lawsuit at his company. His company is racist. They don't hire enough divers. They would find the outsources to this or that country. That's bad. They would find a reason to hate this person because what this is really rooted in is a fundamental resentment. They are being

They're basically happy that a white male CEO got shot. Yeah. And they would find a reason to celebrate this because white male, not famous CEO is a kulak class to reference that. If you're familiar with it, the kulaks, we've talked about it on the show, they were the targets of the Bolsheviks. It was like the prosperous peasants of early Soviet Russia. And that's kind of what...

The Antifa wing of America wants to expropriate and it's they're not just focused on billionaires. They're very much focused on anyone who owns a company is the head of a company is conventionally successful in America who doesn't entire who isn't entirely subsumed into this left wing apparatus and.

uh purple daffodils fighting back he says that has nothing to do with him being a white male well yes it does it absolutely does for a lot of it really does maybe not you specifically but for the bulk of people celebrating this absolutely absolutely and i i'm not seeing the chat i don't have it up but but look here's here's the issue right is if you think oh it's not that big of a deal you know it was just this one guy well guess what

Guess what? If you don't crack down on things like this, guess who they're going to come for next? And they're going to keep going. And then they'll go and then they'll go for what else? The Trump family. They've already taken, what, two shots at Donald Trump or, you know, the guy tried to in over here in West Palm a couple of weeks, literally a couple of weeks ago, Donald Trump.

almost was killed. And then a couple of weeks before that, his head was almost blown off on stage. Do you think, oh, he deserved that too? No, you have to crack down on this stuff in every single instance that it takes place, because if you

ever open it up it doesn't stop and you hear this all the time i hear people on the right they say although you know like they'll say the the romanov family well they deserved it you know they did world war one and that was stupid and you know the czar was was committing troops against the kaiser and it was you know it was just really bad and you know who cares and and and he forced people to be served even though serfdom had actually already been uh outlawed at that

point but they'll just we'll just go in on all this stuff and we'll never actually consider the consequences of where it leads it always leads to piles of skulls and guess what you think oh I'm cool I supported it I went in on your little you know anti-elite venture well guess what that's not going to save you when you get lined up at the trench with your family and you get the bullet uh you get the the muzzle of the gun pointed at the back of your head sorry oh

well, you know, it's just another white CEO. No, like you, you really need to stop and you really need to wake up and grow up right now because this stuff is incredibly serious. Yeah. It's just, I, and another thing pointed out is just someone says, it's just surprising the guy didn't have security. And,

I would like to fight back against that, too. I don't think we should consider it normal for everyone in America. They did say apparently that there had been some like I don't know all the details yet. It's still shaking out. We're in the fog of crime on this. But they said that he did actually have home security because I think there had been some threatening messages or something that had come out. And so he had home security. But for some reason, they weren't with him at this hotel.

even that like i just i don't want us to turn into south africa where every person who has a net worth over a million dollars needs like a special dedicated full-time private security person i think that's deranged i don't think that's a good way to live and as i've warned people if that is the way of life people end up having to live in that is what will make people pro-gun control if they feel i need to be armed at all times because it is like

constant threat of violence against me, that is what is going to make people say, screw it, police state, take away everyone's guns. It's not good if tons of people are living in constant terror that they will be assassinated. That is a path of decline. I think we're all in agreement on this, but I would encourage everyone who's watching who disagrees to change their minds because...

What else are they saying? What else are the disagreeers saying? Oh, they're just going – yeah, I'm just – I like that we can respond to the comments today. Obviously, a lot of people are – Yeah, we're live, by the way, so if you want to comment, please do. Just a lot of people are saying insurers ruin people's lives. What I will also say here – okay, I'm not –

It feels awkward to do this, but within the grand scheme of the American healthcare system... We're not defending them. Within the grand scheme of the American healthcare system, insurers are the meat shield. They exist to take the hate of everyone for a system that is created by a lot of people. Like, hospitals inflate healthcare costs. Doctors inflate healthcare costs. The government inflates healthcare costs. Pharmaceutical companies inflate healthcare costs. Everyone inflates healthcare costs. And...

if you completely got rid of the cut taken by insurance companies, took them out of the picture, and we just imagined there was a 0% profit on all health insurance, and that was what it was, we would still have the most expensive healthcare system in the world, and all those procedures that you want to get would still be monstrously expensive. And it's not that healthcare insurance companies are always great, because they do have this sinister incentive to try to deny care when they can, but...

The system itself is enormously messed up, and you would still be having to pay way too much for tons of procedures if the insurance companies didn't exist. And I think people are afraid to confront this because they want to imagine that the American health care system is easy to fix. And unfortunately, it's such a calamity that it is almost impossible to fix. It would be like popping the world's largest...

tumor or something. Can you pop a tumor? I guess I'll just say, look, this came up when we were doing the Unhumans book so many times and you see communists and far leftists using actual grievances over and over and

in order to fuel this type of revolutionary violence. And unfortunately, you get a lot of people who will start saying, oh, well, he deserved it. And, you know, don't worry that it's happening to that guy. And, you know, I see people in the chat right now saying, you know, it's, you know, it's their fault. You know, they chose to be victims. Someone is saying people are treated badly and it shouldn't have happened. You know, he shouldn't have done that. Let's see, you know, the corruption, helplessness. Look, look,

But number one, number one, it is absolutely sinful. It is completely sinful. It is a direct violation of the Ten Commandments, and it's unquestionably, unquestionably breaking one of God's commandments to do this type of activity, as is all communism, by the way.

Then when you go beyond that, if you're condoning it, that means you're actually condoning the breaking of the commandments. So it's completely anti-Christian to support any of this type of activity. That's a huge, just basic, like one-on-one level thing. Number two, though, for people who say, okay, this is legitimate grievance, it is. And that's why you have to, as a government, you have to come in and find ways to...

meet that grievance, find some kind of compromise to bring down whatever. Look, we didn't have a revolution in the United States when there were communist revolutions all over the world. Why? Because the government did come in and institute reforms for the working class. They introduced the weekend. They introduced the 40-hour work week. There were so many things.

fringe benefits, which became benefits of which, by the way, health insurance was one of the things that was interesting. I mean, Blake, from a historical perspective, you're talking about insurance companies. The idea that your job gave you insurance is actually like in the grand scheme of things, a fairly new type of, um, uh,

just this facet of having employment because this was never originally considered something, you know, a job was here's your wage and have fun, you know, go to a hospital if there's some issue with you. So, you know, even that, that has,

The whole system of health insurance and tying of that to the employment system was something that was brought in as one of these compromises, historically speaking, you know, going back about 100 years ago or 80 years ago in, you know, the progressive era and then in the 1930s as well. And again, I'm not defaming.

fending any of it. Obviously, like I stand for all sorts of government reform. Look what we just spent the entire last year doing. You know, this is the populist movement after all. But I'm saying what I'm very, very emphatically saying is you cannot condone wanton leftist revolutionary violence, which is what it does seem like this was. Yeah. In the end, violence is

chaotic violence always favors the left. There, there is a reason the left has used it throughout its entire history. Uh, Jack, you want to read our, uh, our ad? Yes, I do. I do. This is a great discussion though. This is really, really good. Um,

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So we can keep on this, Jack, or we could go to one of the second topics. We could talk about what we want to do on day one of Doge, or we could talk about Bitcoin hitting 100,000. Oh, my gosh. Look at this. It's not a thought crime to not be sad when evil people are murdered. Oh, my gosh. Look at this. Look at this. I'm not defending a murder, but...

This is like a revolt in the chat. The chat's like rising up against us. It's thought crime versus the thought chat. Oh, man. I've got – This is great. People are sharing their stories, which I don't want to discount any of those things, saying insurance refusers. TexasCat117, he's saying –

Insurance refused $3,000 of anesthesia on his knee. I refused after paying $20,000 in premium and deductible. It's a scam or a crime. And I think, you know, big picture what you can say is it's definitely worrisome whenever you have a system that is making a lot of people defend violent murders and murder.

It's sort of – it's what Tucker would say on his show. He would talk a lot about – and in his book Ship of Fools, he would say you have – as a leader, you have a responsibility to not let the system go until it sparks a revolution. And so –

So we've very much set our piece on that murder is bad, but you definitely have to think it is a red flag if there are all these people online who are celebrating it or defending it or justifying it or at least indifferent to it. For me, this goes back to – I was talking to Matthew before. He had never heard of Occupy Wall Street, Jack. I had to look it up. He had to look up what Occupy Wall Street was.

Oh, never heard of it? I was in elementary school when this was going on. I was in elementary school. I didn't watch the news. I watched the news when I was in elementary school. I always do this. So have you heard of Star Wars? Yeah, of course. All right. I see where you're going. And how old were you when Star Wars came out? I wasn't even I wasn't born. I wasn't born. I mean, so that's not actually an argument. OK, go ahead.

But yeah, so you do have – this is what I – so the thing about Occupy Wall Street was it was very cringe. It was very bad. It actually was a proto-element for so many very annoying things in what would be the politics of the 2010s. But it was also just an ominous sign generally for America that you have this level of populist anger against –

a relative engine of American prosperity. And similar to that, like the anger at the American health insurance system is not just, it'd be one thing if it was just a threat to the healthcare system, which is frankly, mostly bad, I think. But I think it's the sort of thing that if it,

If it's not ultimately solved, it will be what justifies just abolishing everything that makes America successful. Like healthcare is their Trojan horse to just say, we're going to do socialism on the entire economy. We're going to do leveling on the entire economy. We're going to go full Bernie Sanders, full AOC, full green, no deal. And the justification is going to be that your health insurance company sometimes, you know, screwed you on fees, right?

And it does, there is this nihilist impulse that we do have to worry about. So what was the goal of the Occupy Wall Street? That's a good question. We never found out. Really? Part of the gimmick of it was they showed up in Wall Street. They would say, what is our one demand? And they didn't know. The idea was they would gather in their sort of populist commune in Zuccotti Park.

And then they would decide what their one demand would be. And they didn't get around to figuring it out before they sent in the police and cleared them out. It was all very entertaining spectacle, which I remember because I was in college when it happened and you were in

Third grade or something. Somewhere around there. You were in fifth grade? I was in fifth grade when 9-11 happened. I noticed 9-11. I'm just saying. That's what separates... I'll tell you one, though. I was... Obviously a little bit older than that, but...

I was alive for the L.A. riots and I would have been, I guess, in second or third grade. And I didn't know anything about them until now. Keep in mind, this is a pre-Internet era. So it was hard to kind of like know about history unless you had books or books.

listen to conservative talk radio. This is why, by the way, the conservative talk radio was so subversive because they would just simply bring up things that you wouldn't hear anywhere else. And we still have that, but it's way more prevalent because of social media.

That back at the time, you know, there were no alternative forms of media that you would ever hear any of this stuff. And pre-internet, it was very hard. So I had never heard of the L.A. riots until I was like in college. I want to say until, yeah, it was definitely until I was in college that I heard about it. And I was like, I can't believe this all happened when I was a kid. And I had no idea that it even took place.

Let's see, have the masses yelled at us further. So do people understand what we're saying? Do people understand what we're saying is we agree. We totally agree that there are actual issues with the healthcare system. I'm not defending the healthcare system. I'm not defending rich people. I'm not defending any of those things necessarily. But I am, number one, saying that you can't just hate someone for being rich. And number two, I'm also saying that you can't just...

You can't just live in a society where you go in to wanton mass murder like this of people who are in cold blood because that is the path to absolute societal destruction.

It is absolute societal destruction to continue down one of these paths. Spanish Civil War. In the Spanish Civil War, when the revolutionaries got power, they killed 10% of the clergy. 10% of the priests and nuns in the entire country of Spain were massacred.

murder in the Spanish Civil War when the communists took over. So again, guys, this is where that stuff goes. It's Bolshevism. It's Chairman Mao. It's the Red Guards. And this is what they do. This was the metronome in our book.

This is what they do. They find someone who is an unsympathetic target and they say, oh, we're just going to go after them. We're just going to do this. But again, we're not going to use prosecution. We're not going to use FBI. By the way, Blake and Matthew, how funny is it? How ironic is it that the same people

Who say, oh, well, we can't let Kash Patel conduct an investigation into people who have committed government wrongdoing. But, oh, it's totally fine to just go and murder somebody on the street. Yeah, yeah. That's very much a real thing. The same people who will attack any organized use of justice that might be reasonable, that might be under control, are the ones – they will celebrate any –

unhinged form of violence a chaotic form of violence like the left is fundamentally the party of entropy they are they benefit from chaos that that's why 2020 worked the way it did that you would just start tearing away elements of civilization and let people just go maximal primal destructive urges and then they torch minneapolis they torch dc they torch the

America itself. This is right from the prince. Machiavelli writes, in order for you to be the prince or the ruler, you need to first burn the farms and then be the hero of the farms. This is exactly what we're seeing on the ground. We're seeing these, and you saw this in the BLM riots. You saw this with even the LA riots, right? I know that was before me, but I did do my research, right? That's where we get the, going back to the Korean stuff. Have you heard of the LA riots?

Yeah, I have. I have. Okay. I mean, we're being careful. I've read a few books. This guy helped us win the election. Did you know we had elections before you were born? You're telling me now for the very first time. Right. But going back to Machiavelli, he writes this, right? And we saw this in Minneapolis. You mentioned this, right? Where they started rioting.

They burned down their cities, and it just so happened that the social justice warriors of the BLM movement were also the heroes in that situation. This is straight from their playbook. This happens time after time, but we have to be aware. I mean, this goes back to George – sorry, go ahead. We have a guy in the comments, Mel6591, says he was there at the Watts riots.

Wow. Lots, man. One, that's a historically important riot. And two, that was a while ago. God bless you, man. The peaceful...

Like the peaceful 60s, right? The peaceful and the nonviolent 60s, the nonviolent movement of the 1960s. And you say, what about all this violence? No, no, no, no, no. That violence is separate. Those riots, the Watts riots or the Newark riots where they had snipers on the roof shooting people at random. I mean, no.

For people who think that it's okay to condone something like this, I'm just gonna say, you know, again and again, this is, it leads to, again, we wrote a whole book about it. You know, it's Christmas time, so yeah, you know, unhumansbook.com, go check it out, go read the book.

you will see. You will see that any time, you know, look at this. Oh, look at that. You're defending greed. You are defending greed, right? No, we're actually opposing murder and we're opposing chaos and we're opposing communism. It's possible to oppose greed without just murdering people wantonly in the streets, as it turns out. In fact, I don't recall...

any time where Jesus called for us to just go and rise up and start murdering people for being greedy. In fact, no, he requires us to go and try to pray for them, to try to work on them, to convert them,

them, to get them to see the error of their ways. Yeah, maybe drive them out of the temple or something like that. But you'd be hard-pressed to find any example of Jesus Christ condoning murder anywhere in the New Testament. It is simply, again, it's just completely unchristian. It is, in fact, the antithesis of Christianity.

I do, yeah.

Or you can pick something entirely unrelated. Or we can just keep arguing with the thought crime chat. I love this. The chat's going, man. The chat is going. Look at this. Read about the French Revolution, the murder of the Hawkeye 102. Read about the French Revolution, murder of aristocrats. Some of them for themselves was conducted gleefully. Yeah. Blake, you know, that's – for anyone who wants to read more, the book is Unhumans. Or you could go Blake and I did –

whole podcast series on this right around this time last year regarding, and we had a whole episode on the French Revolution, and it was horrific. The French Revolution and the reign of terror of Robespierre when the Jacobin Club basically took power of the state there, it didn't end with King Louis and Marie Antoinette. Remember, by the way, Marie Antoinette was murdered simply for being married to the king, and he was killed for the crime of being the king.

They decided that to be the king was a betrayal of the French people, and therefore he was murdered for being the king, and she was murdered for participating in that by being married to the king. And no, the quote about let them eat cake was never actually uttered by her. It was uttered by her people.

opponents. And this kept going, and the guillotine kept swinging down until the very last one was the nun, the Sisters of Copenhagen, this group of, I think, 12 nuns who lived in a cloister who refused to renounce their vows. And even they were executed right in the center of Paris, where, by the way, President Trump is going to be traveling this weekend, because that's another example of the French Revolution, by the way, because the Notre-Dame Cathedral

was, yeah, we know it was burned in 2019, but did you know that it was also raised during the French Revolution? And the 12 statues on the facade of it, the 12 kings of Israel were smashed by the revolutionaries, the stained glass windows, many of them were smashed as well. And in fact, the cathedral itself was

was deconsecrated and it was turned into a temple of reason by the cult of reason, this sort of atheist science-based ideology. But that doesn't sound like anything that's going on anywhere today, right guys? Jack, we have a very important counterpoint that was brought up by someone in the chat. Individual thinker mentions, why is it illegal to fly over North Pole or to go to Antarctica? Yeah.

What do you have to say to that, Jack? Look, I'm just going to say if there's any Santa deniers that want to step to me in the next 20 days, you're going to get the horns, right? There will be no Santa denial going on. It is illegal to fly over the North Pole specifically and Antarctica, which of course is part of his flight route, because you would be disrupting Santa Claus and his North Pole crew.

And if you were to do so, then then in that case, you know, I would support prosecution. Absolutely. And incarceration. Yeah. People, people attorney, you know, younger people, they aren't denying Santa over there, are they?

There are a few, unfortunately. There are a few. We need to talk to Tyler about this. This is a big problem. I brought this. This is actually a question that I've been asking candidates who come in through the transition process for the Trump administration. You know, what are your what are your thoughts on Santa Claus and Santa deniers? Straight, straight out the door, straight out the door. And it's a great limits test. Just out. Get them all out. Out the door, out the out the sleigh. They might.

I think Buddy the Elf said it the best. The best way to spread the Christmas cheer is to sing out loud for all to hear. Yeah, exactly. I actually only saw that movie for the first time recently. No way. But apparently it's like a big Christmas candle. Wait, I'm the same way, actually. I saw it for the first time last year. Is that the most recent Christmas movie that's like a canonical Christmas movie? Do you like Home Alone? Home Alone is my personal favorite.

Or Elf? Yeah, Home Alone's great. Home Alone's great. Home Alone's definitely better than Elf. Really? Elf is cute, but Home Alone has a lot of emotional oomph to it. You got President Trump in the Elf. By the way, my kids like Home Alone better, too.

The wet bandits would support CEO assassination. That's what our audience should keep in mind. And sticky bandits. People are voting Elf in the chat. I'm a little surprised. Home Alone's really good. I don't feel like Elf has anything comparable to... It's Sean Hughes. I'm sorry. Meeting the dad who's estranged from his son in the church, I don't think Elf has anything quite like that. By the way, Home Alone...

is one of the last movies that you can see, maybe not last, but it certainly is towards the end of movies that were huge tentpole mainstream movies that feature scenes inside a church and nativity scenes. And these were just inserted into movies that were non-religious movies, but the idea that a main character or a whole subplot, there's a whole subplot that revolves around the

the next door neighbor going to see his granddaughter who's estranged and well the son is estranged and he wants to go see her at the church and he goes there and this is just something that's been totally excised from from all of um mainstream media particularly hollywood media the idea of a character just going to church on a regular basis and don't tell me for a second that that hasn't had an effect on the broader society because i absolutely believe that it has

Absolutely. Absolutely. And John Hughes was just a great American. I think he's not, he's not fully appreciated for that. Just being like an earnest pro American, like all pro all of the good things in America. Yeah.

you know, civic Christianity, patriotism. I will never forget how in uncle Buck, you can tell that uncle Buck is a somewhat disreputable character because he comes home and he has a bag that's for the Chicago democratic party. That's how, you know, not everything is quite right. Great guy recommend all of his movies. But yeah, home, home alone is my, it's probably my personal favorite. Obviously there's the old classics, but,

You'll see people say Christmas Story a lot. I think I'm a bit over a Christmas Story. That might be because it's on 24 hours a day every Christmas. I love Christmas Story. That just gets really tedious after the third or fourth time. And the new one, they did a sequel to it. They did a sequel where Ralphie is grown up. And so he's the dad, and then it's with his kids. And almost the entire cast returns, at least the surviving cast. And they actually did...

For movies like that, which are usually horrible, this one was actually pretty good. Does your generation still watch A Christmas Story? Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's a Christmas classic. I was glad you weren't going, I've never heard of that one. What's a movie? I just think it's hilarious. I think it's so funny.

Is there any new Christmas movie that I'm not – is there something that's come out in the last 10 years that young people like? It's all secular, unfortunately, all the new Christmas movies. But the classics at least have that Christ element to things. They actually talk about why we celebrate Christmas, the purpose of it. Yeah. Right?

Man. And just remember, guys. Polar Express. Polar Express. Is that a box of movies? Polar Express, I kind of tried. That one was a little weird. That was like a – I'm looking at Christmas movies now. Actually, for anyone who's got kids or grandkids, there is a movie that came out. Yeah, I just found this for my kids.

a couple of years ago. It is an animated film and it's called The Star. And the main character is the donkey from the actual nativity story. So it's the donkey that Mary rides on to Bethlehem. And it's this animated film of the nativity story, but told from the perspective of the animals. And

And so it's like, it's kind of cool and it's great for little kids and it's just really well done. It's obviously full on Christian and it's, it's got a really randomly incredible cast. It's got like Kelly Clarkson, Keegan, Michael Key is in there from like, uh, uh, uh, Jordan Peele and, uh,

Who else? Zachary Levi is in there, who, by the way, just recently came out as a big Trump supporter. Chris Sunferson is in there. Mariah Carey's in there. Tyler Perry. Even Oprah is in there. So it's just Kristen Chenoweth from the original Wicked. It's so bizarre that this movie came out and is like unapologetically Christian. And it has a really strong Hollywood cast. And it's just a great movie.

Now we have all the people in the comments are saying that Die Hard is a Christmas movie. Did we debate this a week or two ago? I don't want to rehash it if we did. No, we mentioned it. And look, it's very played out as a meme. It's definitely a dead meme. It's very 2018. And honestly, it's like...

It's just something that it's like, I don't know, like some people have found it recently and they're like, oh yeah, it's so cool. It was funny like the first time someone said like, actually Die Hard is a Christmas movie. And you're like, oh, it takes place on Christmas. But no, it is not a Christmas movie. It is a movie that takes place during Christmas. No, it's really not. Important distinction. It's really not.

It is. Is Batman Returns the Christmas movie? Yeah, like it didn't come out during Christmas. It doesn't have important Christmas themes. It's just a movie where Christmas is occurring in the background. Like it's just exciting. That's why there's a party at the building. That's the only reason for it. And then they play like, you know, let it snow at the end because it's funny.

It could be at any other time of year and still be the same exact story, and therefore it doesn't pass the Christmas text. Related to that, are we all taking part in Whamageddon this year? Whamageddon. Whamageddon is where you try to go all of December without hearing the song Last Christmas by Wham, which is a useful thing to do because Last Christmas isn't a Christmas song.

You could just change every use of the word Christmas in that song to Tuesday. It's a heartbreak song. You could just change the word Christmas to Tuesday, and it would be the same song. Like, last Tuesday I gave you my heart, and the very next day you gave it away. Same thing. No, no, no. No Christmas themes. No Christmas set at all. Last Christmas is definitely a Christmas song. No, it's a Christmas song because, number one, it has the word Christmas in there, and as a song, it is evoking the emotion of Christmas. Christmas is an incredibly emotional time.

And so, you know, last Christmas I gave you my heart for Christmas. That is the giving of gifts, gift giving, of course, an important Christian tradition to celebrate the birth of Christ. Is it in America? The very next day they gave it away, which means they gave it away on Boxing Day. Is it an anti-boxing day? Well, they were British, right? So it wasn't, George Michael's British, so I don't know if that's a, is he British Canadian? Australian. Australian.

boxing day is australian and british british definitely has boxing canada too i think all of the like limey countries have it was like a common well there you go then there is a line in here that says happy christmas happy christmas yeah happy christmas not merry christmas but happy christmas okay that's definitely pretty british and wait like like so here's so the the one the one interesting thing for me when it comes to um

The diehard debate is, so, you know, I was getting way down the weeds on this a couple years ago. And I was saying, look, it's not central to plot and it has all, you know, it's just right there. It just happens to take place around Christmas. And then someone threw back at me, they said, well, what about the movie White Christmas then?

Wouldn't the movie White Christmas also not actually fall into that as well? Because it has to do with a, you know, a hotel and some veterans, some World War, excuse me, yeah, World War II veterans. And, you know, all of this. World War II was a Korean War. What year was it? 50 to 53. Yeah, but it's when the movie was set.

That I don't know. That I don't know. And so anyway, point being is, you know, does that actually constitute a Christmas movie by that same test?

Yeah, you know, I know you have a hard out here, Jack. I want to just... Yeah, I just want to cite Michael Says. Michael Says, apparently, the hip new Christmas movie is Violent Night, which is John Wick with Santa, and the theme is getting home for Christmas. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen that either. I worry that after what we just said, it might be against the spirit of Christmas to watch, and...

to watch a Christmas movie about that. But yeah, there's a bunch of these, like, um, no, I do watch, like I watched the new crop crop of Christmas movies every year. And just cause there are popular Christmas movies that come out that don't necessarily make them, as you say, canonical Christmas movies. Uh, it's a wonderful life like that. That will be watched every year in my house. There's no question. Um, it is in my mind by far the best Christmas movie. Um,

and uh really really strikes a heart of what we were talking about earlier you know you know by the way i will also point out that in it's a wonderful life oh here we go like i just figured it out this is how i'm going to tie together the whole thing in it's a wonderful life well why doesn't jimmy stewart why doesn't george bailey just murder mr potter why doesn't he just shoot him in the street why doesn't he just take that wheelchair and

push him off the bridge into the water. Wouldn't Clarence the angel love that? Yeah. Right. So that's a good point. Would you want Billy to do that?

He would be screwed in England. Yeah, I bet he exploited at least as many people as the United Healthcare allegedly possibly did. And I don't think it would be –

drugs, alcohol, sex. And, uh, in the dystopian version, I'll never forget this, that, um,

Mary, who I believe is, I guess, you know, in her like 30s, right? If you understand, Blake, you know where I'm going with this. Mary is in her 30s in the dystopian version. And he says, where's Mary Clarence? Where's Mary? Show me Mary. And he goes, no, George, you don't want to see that. She's closing up the library, George. She never married. She's a spinster. She's a cat lady, George. Yeah.

He's an unmarried cat lady. And this is what causes him to psychologically break. Like his brother being dead didn't shatter him. His town looking like it's 2024 America didn't shatter him.

And the ship that his brother saved in the war, all the sailors were killed. None of that mattered nearly as much as, as his wife becoming a cat. Mary being at a library. And by the way, so in the 1940s, when that movie came out, everyone understood that that was, that there was something wrong with that. And that should not happen. Okay. Now we're getting real trouble right now, but I will say that JD Vance, if you look at the, at the exit polls, didn't have you, did you see that poll that was going around of, of, uh,

pet owners and it was like every single pet owner demographic went for uh trump except for one and which one was that i think we know jack i think we know godless cat ladies which did did he say that in an interview with charlie i feel like it was it was either charlie or tucker i can't i can't remember at this point i think it was charlie classic good times good times do you have a hard out jack

No, well, I thought I was, but I can do like 10 more minutes. All righty, all righty. Oh, this is great. Yeah, I'm loving this chat right now. People are men with turbans. Eww. Life of Brian is not a Christmas movie. Someone's saying Life of Brian is a Christmas movie. No, Life of Brian is hilarious. Life of Brian by Monty Python is amazing. I'm sure Matthew has no idea what that is. Matthew, do you know what Life of Brian is?

Love is Blind? I'm sorry. Life of Brian? Have you heard of that movie? No. He hasn't heard of Life of Brian. When did that come out? Here, I'll look it up. Before I was... Have you heard of Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Of course, of course. Okay, he's heard of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. So it's another Monty Python movie about...

It's about a, yeah, exactly. Just lived a cloistered life. So, a shelter childhood. So, Life of Brian is a movie where this guy is born in a similar way to Jesus and in a similar place and time as Jesus, but is not actually Jesus and keeps getting accidentally mistaken for Jesus. Yeah.

Someone says their favorite Christmas movie of the last 10 years is Fat Man starring Mel Gibson, which I have never heard of, but it does...

honestly look pretty remarkable. Does it exist? It is an unorthodox slant on holiday traditions that follows a jaded, gritty Santa Claus, played by Mel Gibson, who struggles with ennui, production issues, government interference, and an embittered assassin sent by a vengeful, naughty child. The film received mixed reviews. I'm just seeing the cover of this. By the way, is Gremlins a Christmas movie?

He gets the gremlins for Christmas. Does it otherwise have Christmas theme? Okay, I'll confess I've never seen gremlins. No, it doesn't. But it is the beginning of the movie that he receives the first gremlin as a Christmas present. Someone says Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. That is a Thanksgiving movie, as we discussed. That's Thanksgiving. That's absolutely Thanksgiving. That's like the only Thanksgiving movie ever made, other than that crappy slasher movie. What about Charlie Brown?

That's not like a theatrical. It's a television special. It's totally different. There are a lot of television specials about Thanksgiving. By raw. Yeah. So in the last 10 years, you either get the last 10 years or so of

movies you either get like a hallmark kind of christmas movie or you get this like gritty kind of christmas movie by the way i will say that um i am unabashedly supportive of all hallmark movies i love hallmark movies i think they're fantastic i think they're wonderful i don't care that it's the same plot every time that's not the point the point is that's the world we're fighting for

That's the world that, you know, imagine if you could just live in one of those worlds where all you had to worry about was, oh, the town Christmas party needs a fundraiser to save the old inn or something. And you've got this wonderful community where people join together and then, you know, you

Sarah is back from the big city and she's she's still single because she's working so hard and then she meets the guy who runs the end and they fall in love if you go and it's like it's like that's the world we're fighting for and that's why I like what's what's the better Hallmark movie where the man from business city learns how to like let go and reacquaint himself with rural life or the woman who's gone to the big city because we have both versions and

Is it better when the woman learns to go small town life or when the guy is hooked by a cute girl next door type in the small town? City to rule. I think that's the better story. But who should be going from the city to the rural? Guy or girl? Which one has the...

Yeah, which one has the character art? I think the guy. The guy going to the role part, right? Because there's a sense of retaining all this masculinity kind of traits of helping out the city or the town, carrying trees, right? Chopping down trees. I like that sense of movies.

Bringing that back. I just don't like the softness.

and promotes the sex in the city lifestyle. And it's like the career woman, you've got to do this, and you've got to eschew childhood. And this is, by the way, where you get the childless cat ladies from. And instead, you have these great Hallmark movies that come out every year that are like, hey, there's more to life than that.

And there's good things that you're passing up on. And, you know, that doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with that. But but maybe, you know, maybe there maybe Christmas means just a little bit. But does it maybe set up a misleading expectation where you could be a girl boss and then you just go on a vacation and like swept off your feet and you still get your like whirlwind romance?

Whereas if it's the man in business city having that happen, it is mostly women who watch these movies. Then you are communicating really like this is actually what men find most desirable, like these traits of the girl next door, whatever.

Small town girl, you might be sending a more useful message to them, whereas if it's the like girl boss on girl bossing, it might sort of fly over their head and they'll just think, wow, I can I can hook this amazing small town guy after I've done my like career stint in the big city.

You can interpret it either way. That's like the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey thing, right? Like Taylor Swift is like, oh, I dated all these guys and, you know, I put off marriage, but I still ended up with, you know, Super Bowl champion. Yeah, we have Thor. Thor Colonel says girl boss returns to her hometown to take care of her sick father and falls in love and leaves her career behind is 75% of Hallmark movies.

Admittedly, I don't watch these movies. I love it. I hope they're actually like this. Once you've seen one, you don't need to see the others. They're all the same, just different names. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Over and over and over. By the way, they do have some that are actually kind of cool because they're like – they go and film on location, so they go show you like – we just watched one. We actually – literally, Tanya and I just watched one the other day.

where they were doing a river cruise down the Danube, which, Blake, you would like that. And they go and visit different cities and castles along the Danube. The only issue is that, so the guy, of course, is secretly a prince, of course, but it's like a fake country. It's sort of like a stand-in for LinkedIn stocking. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now we're going to have her as Mr. Danube.

Mr. The Cause of All the Problems in Europe for the Last 150 Years. Okay. Okay. No, those are cool. Someone just put it out in the chat. Royal Holiday. That's right. It's Royal Holiday. That's what it was. One Royal Holiday. The Netflix Hallmark knockoff A Christmas Prince was really funny because it takes place in an entire Christmas-themed country.

called like Aldovia. Look at this. Look at that. Look, Thor Colonel is with me. I'm with Jack on this. When I was caring for my grandma in hospice, she left it on Hallmark and all the movies were low key great. Yeah, they are. Because, because what it is, is like, yeah, it's tame. I get it. But it's like, there's so much garbage out there anymore that like you just turn on a Hallmark movie and you're like, Oh,

Oh, yeah. This is what life used to be like. Hey, I'm hitting my heart out, guys, so I do have to cut it short here. You guys can feel free to keep going, but I do have to bounce. No, I think we can just close it out now. But thanks for coming on. Thank you. We were shorthanded, and we'll see everyone. This is a fun episode. Do you have social – Matthew, do you have social –

Yeah, I do. I was going to say, do you have social media for people to go by? I do. It's universally on all platforms. MC Martinez, MC Martinez AZ as in Arizona.

And I also just downloaded Blue Sky, so you'll see me start ripping. I'm posting a lot of Republican stuff on there. I want to see how long I can stay on Blue Sky without being kicked off. I give it another one. By the way, guys, Matt did it.

Matthew did a ton of work with Turning Point Action. He really did. I remember going to visit over there when Tyler was, you know, just kind of cracking the whip. And he was like, Matthew, get back to work. Get back to the whiteboards. The whiteboards need updating. You're like, Tyler, please let me eat. Please. It's been days. And he's like, no, no.

No, but no, you did an incredible job over there and crunching all the numbers. I know we weren't really doing, you know, we'll have to do like a separate episode where we kind of like explain all of that. Thank you, Jack. No. No. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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