THOUGHTCRIME DEBATE NIGHT SPECIAL — LIVE
02:25:06 Share

Trump v. Biden. Who won the debate? Listen to the instant coverage and breakdown with clips, reaction, and more. Become a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. That is members.CharlieKirk.com. This is the big one. Our analysis. We guide you through the entire thing. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here.

Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com. That is noblegoldinvestments.com. It's where I buy all of my gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com.

Okay, that was a full-spectrum victory by Donald J. Trump. Especially the first quarter.

It's for real, for real. Blake, you are the most independent-minded, black-pilled. What is your analysis here? I was very impressed throughout everything that happened. I thought Trump avoided any of the mistakes I was worried he'd make. I think he followed the strategy that I hoped he would. I think the strategy you hoped he would. And basically all the things that we hoped might happen for Biden that would be negative, that he would look confused, that he would look really feeble, that he would lose his train of thought.

that he would have some bad exchange with Trump. All of those things happened. And on top of that, CNN, I guess to their credit, they weren't rigging it. If they were rigging it, they would have not showed Biden's face on screen as much as they did because he looked bad. Yeah, and so just to understand, the viewing numbers are going to come in. Presidential debates are the opposite of football games, where in football games, viewership goes up in the third and fourth quarter. Presidential debates spike at the beginning because all the drama, what are they going to come out? And then people kind of get bored

especially as the bickering goes and it just kind of flatlines trump had his best and biden was at his worst in what is the sweet spot the prime time of the debate my phone was lighting up with put him in a home he can't speak this is unbelievable and cnn might not have realized it but cnn did trump a huge service they didn't have to do this they went split screen on the entire debate

They didn't have to do that. Right, Tyler? Instead, they could have went full screen, the split screen, the contrast. Trump looked better just by contrast. Most people were watching not what Trump was saying, but how Biden was just he would like stare off to the side. It's a coup. It's a coup.

I'm telling you, this is a Democrat coup where people are saying there was a theory. Wow, CNN. I got to interrupt. I got to interrupt. Right now, immediate spin. CNN just said they're talking about him stepping down because the debate was so terrible within two minutes. Oh, so now you want to hear what CNN says? CNN is talking about this? Yes, yes. John King and Anderson Cooper are debating that right now. I got people. Wow. John King just said that. The instant analysis on CNN. So that was probably 20 million people.

You can't blame me for not wanting to watch CNN on our, you know, CNN just said moment of panic for the Democrats. Five minutes is a debate. There's this is the coverage right now. Not Anderson Cooper, but it's John King. The panic on the Democrats is wild and it should be full throttle, full acceleration, baby. This we are not letting up.

Tyler, your reaction here. This was a disaster for the Democrats. Trump was consistent and he kept calm. It was it reminded me of remember Trump's announcement at Mar-a-Lago.

when he announced that he was running again. And if you watched it, what Trump did was different from the previous Trump. He was calm. He was collected. He spoke very... And even the times throughout this debate where Biden came at him, he was angry. Watch back...

there's gonna be screenshots we're gonna see for the next five days ten days yes of angry biden like turning to uh to trump and trump didn't respond back he didn't uh get out of sorts he was very calm he was super self-controlled i have a quote from cnn just now i don't know who said it this is just shared by someone the panic i am hearing from democrats okay it's not like anything i have ever heard before

Joe Biden on predicted just went down to 37 cents. So he was he was hovering around there all night. Well, he he started at 46, 47 or somewhere in there. And now he's down. He was down to around 40. Can we get these clips from CNN, by the way?

And by the way, I made the right call. Now you got some woman talking about how Trump lied a lot. I don't need to hear that. But we're getting the clips immediately. But this is full freakout mode. And here's what I have from a reporter. He's not a Democrat, but he is a Democrat. Reporter, he says, there is no way to pull Biden unless he releases. Is that correct, Blake? Yeah, I mean, Biden, he won the nomination. He basically...

he has the delegates, they're pledged to Biden. That is the weak spot is Biden has to himself decide to step down. Yes. And so if Biden believes in himself and sort of Biden's inner cabal, you could have, I mean, you have to think what would they do to force it? You could have the cabinet try to force him out, which would be incredibly extreme. Uh,

Maybe the DNC tries to rewrite its own rules on the fly, but I think legally that you wouldn't be able to do that and it would just be such a suicidal party civil war. That is the thing. Biden does have to agree to drop out for this to happen. So Fox, of course, is saying it's a train wreck for Biden, but CNN, and this is what's so important, those first impressions right after the debate then kind of have a top-down tributary effect of narrative. John King is well-respected amongst regime circles. John King saying as the first response,

that we want to remove Biden. David Axelrod said, we should judge this on policy, but there's a feeling and sense of shock how he came out at the beginning of the debate. He seemed disoriented. He got stronger, but the panic has set in. Jack, what are you hearing or seeing, especially amongst moderate voices? I'm hearing the same thing. I'm hearing this. Look, ABC, I've got people texting me. I've got...

Let me just say people who I know who are in communication with people on the other side in D.C. Look, D.C. is the the the biggest little town in America. Right. So everybody knows people on the other side. There are some people on the other side. They're all talking about what do we do now? They're all saying we were pretty sure we just watched our front page of the presidency. And I want to just say, yeah, front page of Drudge. I just posted it. Did you guys see what we got right now? Drudge. Operation Replace Biden. Dems scrambled 130 days to go. Debate catastrophe.

That is Drudge. That definitely supports that Bloomberg bought Drudge secretly because you might be thinking, like, this is how I can get in. This is my chance. I just got to say, I'm just going to say CNN. This debate was an unmitigated disaster for Joe Biden. Sorry, go ahead.

Man, think about where we were three years ago, January 7th, 2021. And they said Donald Trump was done. They said that he was over. They said that he should call it quits. Everyone said when he announced he was running for election again, that said there's no chance. It's not possible. He had hundreds of millions against him in the primary. Sorry, Jack, to cut you off. And here we are. One sec. Let's play cut 120.

Don't think Donald Trump had a great night. Donald Trump broke the fact check machine more than I can count tonight. That will be on the record as we go forward. He refused to answer some very specific and direct questions about his conduct, about January 6th and what all. So that will be dealt with out there. And sometimes there's a parallel universe between the political elites and the American people. Be nice to see what the voters say. But I can tell you it started minutes in. It started with the first couple of answers.

And it has continued throughout the night from a, oh, my God, oh, my God, oh, my God, to what do we do about this? And it involves very senior people in the Democratic Party, including elected officials, saying we have a problem. Andrew, tweet that out immediately. Blake, I mean, you look like you just saw a ghost. That's unbelievable. How do you come back from that? I mean, you tell me, man. No one's talking about the debate. The details of the debate are gone. Trump did exactly what he had to do. Can they remove him, Blake?

I don't think they can. You'd have to basically say, we're going to blow this up. He'd have to agree to step aside. Guys, everything's about to change. Well, I mean, technically the convention hasn't happened yet.

Van Jones just said, I'm sorry to keep interrupting. This was painful. I love Joe Biden. I work for Joe Biden. This was a disaster for Joe Biden. Look, this is why two things. There were two stories that happened in the past week. Earlier this week, everyone saw Hillary Clinton has all of a sudden started making public appearances.

appearances again. Hillary Clinton's got a new book coming out. Hillary Clinton's kind of raising her hand saying, hey, guys, remember me? And then what do we see in Axios this morning? Michelle Obama calls up Axios. And I talked about this on War Room this morning. Michelle Obama calls up Axios and drops a dagger on Joe Biden on the day of the debate. So even Michelle Obama is starting to get her name back out there again. The sharks are circling. Oh, no, I got to play another tape here. We're doing this live. Play cut 123.

...minutes into the debate, and it continues right now. It involves party strategists, it involves elected officials, it involves fundraisers. And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations about what they should do about it. Some of those conversations include, should we go to the White House and ask the president to step aside? Others are, other of the conversations are about, should prominent Democrats go public with that call? Because

because they feel this debate was so terrible. I mean, I'm kind of thinking here live on air, Blake, this is a complete... They're talking about lawmakers going... This is a complete implosion at this point. Lawmakers going to the White House to do an intervention. That's how Nixon left office. Barry Goldwater and a few other Senate Republicans went to Nixon and said, you are going to be impeached and removed. You don't have the votes. 124, CNN. Okay, I almost am at the place now where I think this is an op.

I think CNN got the green light from Schumer, Pelosi, Obama, and they said go because this is not spin. This is this is indecipherable from Bannon's war room. Play cut 124. And just to co-sign what John is saying, I mean, the panic that I am hearing from Democrats is not like anything that I have heard in this campaign so far. And a lot of it has to do with, first of all, there was a deep frustration about Trump's lies. I mean, he lied a lot tonight. But the problem for Biden was that Trump was able to take action.

Some sometimes incredible falsehoods and turn them into some kind of argument, whereas Biden's answers were in a lot of cases not coherent. I think that some of you see the New York Times. Go ahead, please. I keep I keep interrupting you. Do you see that? Do you see the New York Post headline? Mumble in the jungle. The mumble in the jungle. I mean, Andrew, we got to be tweeting these clips out.

If you're the DNC, if you're the fund, imagine the super bundlers right now for the Biden campaign, for the DNC. Imagine there's someone who's like the Silicon Valley types who has sat there and gone, oh, just spend all your money going on. There are going to be a lot of phone calls right now, a lot of very angry phone calls right now. Get my money out of that cheap folding suit. So guys, get the clip right here. John King, quote, I've been in politics for 30 years.

I've never seen so many text messages from people criticizing their candidate. Everyone is leaving this debate panicked. They decided they want a summer debate. They decided they want a summer date because they were behind in the polls. Trump said any time, any place. And they said, OK, we'll set it up this way. Huge chance blew up in their face. But I mean, so let's let's by the way, I mean, Joe Biden's going to have real quick. Yes. Go ahead, Jack. Real quick.

Shout out to all the people who said Trump was making a mistake for going into this. Shout out to all the people who said Trump shouldn't be here tonight.

I don't think they're going to pull Biden tonight, but this is too coordinated from CNN. Someone gave them the green light, a producer on high and said, go. There's no spin. This is a complete firing squad right now on CNN. Right, Tyler? Well, like I said, Trump put so much pressure on the DNC superdelegates. Can you imagine going to the DNC convention as a superdelegate and with a straight face being like,

I am casting my vote for that guy. Like, this is going to be a disaster of an entire. A contact of mine just said something absolutely hilarious, which is you're going to be able to eat off the San Francisco sidewalks for the next three months because Gavin Newsom. Oh, that's hilarious. We're fixing all of it. No problems. Clean it up. When Xi Jinping came. Guys, I mean, so let's go through the technical side intervention. Charlie, Charlie, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah.

Please. No, no. I want to make sure I understand this. He's going to take it out. So they have a late convention, which is not great for them because let's say that Biden drops out now. They technically can't nominate till the convention because they can't just like, no, they're bound, right? It could be up in the air at the convention. They have to do it. They have to do it. So they chose a late convention. They have to do it. The convention. They chosen a mid August convention after the RNC and Paris Olympics. Wait, hold on. They cannot do it before then. Because didn't they do that crap where they were like formally nominating Biden and

No, that's because of Ohio. So is he already the nominee? Go check it out right now. I have to check that. Because if he is the nominee, then it's like a Democrat. He's not the nominee until the convention. No, no, no. There's a presumptive nominee. He's a presumptive nominee. To get him on the ballot in Ohio. I understand. But he's the presumptive nominee. That's the rule. So he's the presumptive nominee. They can still change everything. There's plenty of time. But here's the deal. The problem is now, think about this, the complex political scenario that's going to play out in Chicago.

where the DNC convention is going to be held. Not everyone's going to agree on one candidate. By the way, so even if they do a smoke-filled room... They're all going to have a fight on the floor. Well, if they do a smoke-filled room, Schumer, Pelosi, et cetera, et cetera, who do they pick? How do they pick them? They cannot do it beforehand. Now, Biden can choose his successor...

But if he chooses Kamala Harris, she's worse than Joe Biden in the tracking poll. By the way, you want to talk about chasing Rust Belt men and their ballots? Easy. The ballots will come to us if Kamala Harris is the nominee. What's fascinating, if Kamala Harris is the nominee, this is what's going to happen.

What they would do then, Charlie, is that would be them essentially, we talked about this a couple weeks ago when this came up, what they would be doing then is they would be downshifting resources away from the presidential race, realizing that they don't have the ability to have someone who's going to beat Trump, so they're going to shift it away to the Senate and to the House swing races. That would be the move. That would be the only move available.

Sorry, you have a thought, Blake? I just had the thought about the replacement process because it isn't Chuck and Nancy and all those who pick it or Hakeem Jeffries or anything. It really is if you dig into the rules. It's basically there's a kind of rules committee at the DNC, and they have a huge power in this situation if they need to replace someone who's already the nominee. And that is...

it's kind of not famous people who are on the committee. It's like a lot of people picked by Biden. It's a lot of people who are picked by Biden in response to that deal he made in 2020 to get the endorsement from Clyburn and all of that. And you might suddenly have these people. I think one of them is like FDR is great, like grandson or something bizarre. I mean, this is no, this is open season. Yeah. And you have to wonder, did they walk Joe Biden into the ambush? We had that idea, but it felt too fringy conspiracy. Um,

And like this is this is open season. I think rather than that, it was an op. I think what you have is you have a party that's very nervous because Biden looks weak and all of them are thinking he's weak and the knives are out because they know he's not going to last. So I want to welcome our almost 20,000 on YouTube, our huge audience on Rumble. We're about to get real America's voice. You guys can email us freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. I want to know you. Who do you think they're going to pull Joe Biden with? I'm now anchoring more towards they're pulling Biden. I'm scared of a Whitmer conversation.

Shapiro direction. We are going to be choosing some of your emails tonight and you guys get free signed copies of my book, right wing revolution. Uh, that is right wing revolution right here. Uh, we can send you signed copies, um, right now and also make sure you guys subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show podcast. Okay. Uh, let's go to another, um, piece of tape here. Okay. We're going to real America's voice in four minutes. Um, my good, I am, my phone is lighting up right now. Do we have more tape from CNN? Uh, I can quote CNN here.

Quote, my friend who maxed out to Biden's campaign said she'll never forgive Biden or the campaign for lying. Quote, we have been told for weeks that Joe Biden can do cartwheels and handstands. We now know that every single American that has said that has been lying to American people. It is a full narrative. No one's talking about Trump right now. The full narrative is pulling Biden. And so if they do a smoke-filled room and they have an heir apparent,

And they say, we want Newsom. We want Gretchen Whitmer. We want Shapiro. The delegates, by the way, Tyler, the delegates of the Democrat Party, some of these people are insane. They're going to nominate Bernie Sanders. Or they're going to nominate the fringe wing of the Democrat Party. Remember, politics is who shows up. So this is what's going to play out. Because remember the entire Hillary superdelegate issue? Bernie, Hillary, Hillary.

We remember all this. Oh, yeah. Bernie Hillary superdelegates. They added more regular delegates to offset the superdelegates. So the superdelegates are generally famous people, powerful people, donors, all of that. They're typically and this is how most of the parties work. They have a person picked out the grassroots like someone else. Who do you think the grassroots is going to like?

They took a lot of work to get everybody across the finish line to all get on Biden's side. Remember? Huge. No, it was a lot of. It was gamesmanship for years to do that. They don't have enough time to get everybody on one side.

So we're about to welcome Rav in, and when we do, we're going to kind of go back through so many of these elements here. And Rav is just finishing here. I want to say hello to all the audience here. Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com, who you think they're going to replace him with. The smart money right now, the betting markets are who, Blake? They like Gavin Newsom? I still think that's bizarre. I think that's just a meme. I would rather run against Gavin Newsom than Gretchen Whitmer in Pennsylvania. Do you agree, Tyler? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I here's what's going to here's what's going to be really interesting. I don't think they're going to put I don't think they're going to put a female up against Trump. I just don't. So you think they're going to. But hold on. Let's let's play this out. Who are the high priestesses of the Democrat Party, Blake?

Like who would be able to make this choice? No, the high priestess, meaning the most. By the way, I want to welcome Real America's voice here. Yes. Hi, Real America's voice. We are recapping right now. I want to just play the CNN tape one more time as we now welcome Real America's voice here. It is a bloodbath. It is open season. Every person on the CNN panel, every person out there in the Democrat Party, Joy Reid, John King, they are saying it is time to pull Joe Biden. The betting markets are reflecting that this was the Hindenburg Pearl Harbor election.

Hiroshima Nagasaki moment for the Biden campaign. It is Dresden over there. Let's play cut 123.

Minutes into the debate and it continues right now. It involves party strategists. It involves elected officials. It involves fundraisers. And they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people down the party in the ticket. And they're having conversations about what they should do about it. Some of those conversations include should we go to the White House and ask the president to step aside? Others are other of the conversations are about should prominent Democrats go public with

With that call, because they feel this debate was so terrible. And let's play another one here. Let's play cut 127. I've been in this for 30 years. So for those of you just tuning in right now, we are seeing the full force to pull Joe Biden. Play cut 127.

I'm just telling you, to Abby's point, I've been doing this for 30-something years, going on 40 years, and I have never, ever had what happened on this thing tonight happen in the middle of the debate. It started early and it continued. And to Van's point, Van made a very important point. These are people who love Joe Biden.

Who credit Joe Biden for kicking Donald Trump out of the White House? They're Democrats. The Democratic Party is a very diverse party. It fights about a lot of things. It has generational issues. It's had regional issues and everything else. The thing that unites the Democratic Party is trying to keep Donald Trump from getting back into the White House. They love Joe Biden for kicking him out. They don't want him back. They came into this debate nervous that Biden was in a weak position. They leave this debate panicked.

This is a complete bloodbath for Joe Biden. And I believe that there was a green light given. There was a thumbs up saying, hey, you are allowed to now go after Biden. The coup is underway. Blake.

Whether it was explicit permission or just everyone, we even saw this signaling. There was that Axios article last week that was outer Democrats saying they don't like Biden's campaign policy. They don't think he has a strategy to win. There's been this isolation. It's Biden and then it's Ron Klain. It's a few other guys like his old advisors who've just always been around him. They're kind of the cabal running the White House.

And you just sense there's more and more Democrats who feel outside this process, who feel they're on like this doomed sinking ship. And they see their chance and all of them are just whipping the knives out and they're like, let's go. This is our chance to stick the knife in first. Maybe you can get in good with the next person. Maybe you can convince somebody.

I think what they really need is they need some big Democrat to come out and publicly say, we have talking heads on CNN. We have journalists. We have people on Twitter. What they need is they need a major Democrat, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, major governors who will say it is time for Biden to step aside. And Jack, I want to get your thoughts here. What is the chatter amongst the online universe of the people that really matter, that are opinion shapers? What are you seeing?

Look, I've been saying for a long time and full credit to Stephen K. Bannon for cluing me in on this. He said, don't, he said, CNN is one thing, but look at MSNBC because MSNBC is actually the engine room. And on MSNBC, I think it's even worse than CNN right now. Look, they're all.

calling for this to come out. And I had talked before, by the way, about the shade war. I reported this for years on human events daily and, and folks and the real America's voice audience knows that we've been talking about this, how Kamala Harris was attempting to set herself up as the heir apparent and how you called it team B and team K. And it was team K that was always blocked out by team B and, and Blake was just referencing all of those members. Jen Psaki was a huge part of that. Now she's over at MSNBC, uh,

Ron Klain, Steve Ruschetti, all of these guys who went around and they've been a Tony Blinken. They've been with Biden for a really long time. And now all of a sudden the bloom is completely off the rose. And I'm just going to say it. Everyone can see now that the emperor has returned.

no close. You are going to see a Democrat. We are watching a Democrat coup against Joe Biden and his entire administration. It's happening in real time. Everybody welcome. We are live on Real America's Voice. I'm curious who you think they are going to pull Joe Biden with. Freedom at CharlieKirk.com. The chatter, it is open season. It is a bloodbath. And Kamala Harris is about to come on CNN to do damage control. But what I was asking, Blake, is who is the most sacred element of the Democrat Party is who?

Black women. Can they jump over Kamala Harris? You know, it's going to be really hard. That's what makes it so hard to pull Biden is you can't do it without you either have to stick in Kamala Harris, who is a huge political liability. Nobody likes her. But as you say, if you pull her, you're basically saying like, yeah, you go back on all of these things you said in 2020 and

It just looks you rip the coalition apart. It's a bad look. Tons of bad blood. This is MSNBC. This is real. We're clipping this real time. Quote, conversations will take place about whether or not to replace Joe Biden tomorrow morning. MSNBC is the tip of the spear of Democrat regime change.

information warfare. Nicole Wallace and John King saying this, this is not like random Twitter oddies. This is approved now messaging. The coup is underway. The same way they did a coup to remove the duly elected president of Ukraine in the Maidan revolution, right? Porchenko, is that right? Yep. Something like that. The same way that we did a coup in Haiti, they are now executing a domestic coup against Joe Biden. It is underway. Play cut 128.

And there is a conversation happening inside Biden's circle and certainly a much more frank conversation happening inside the Democratic coalition. And I think there will be stories of a lot of concern about the performance tonight. And I think what you say conversations happening, what do you mean? I think people are talking. I think the conversations range from whether he should be in this race tomorrow morning to what was wrong with him.

CNN just says Chris Wallace, quote, Biden just sunk his campaign tonight. Joy Reid just tweets out, there's a lot of panic going on right now. The cover of Huffington Post, by the way, this is the tell. There is no spin. Blake, I have not seen...

since trump went down the golden escalator or no i'll go to you tyler have you seen the media actually be gloves off towards their own have you seen this i've not seen this since the escalator i haven't we haven't seen this since mitt romney obama debate john kerry we have not seen the media beat like turn on their own this the cnn just said it was a car accident in slow motion yeah this is the huffpo the debate from hell biden replacement talks quote happening

And now Biden is doing a rally. He's Biden is speaking after his first presidential debate. So they carted him off to some sort of supporter thing. Little does he. Yeah, go ahead, Blake. I'm just thinking about HuffPost used to be like they wouldn't even report on Trump except in their entertainment section. Because like he and they'd put that thing like Donald Trump is a racist fascist who's promised to do all this stuff. And they put it at the end of every article. And that's HuffPost now.

A lot happens in eight years. So, look, someone got a call. Someone on high. That right there, Huffington Post. This has, at the top level, information warfare. Jack, your thoughts?

Like I my my my White House official source just texted me. Jeff Zane's closest friends are telling him to consider suggesting a replacement to Biden. Senior advisers are having open discussions about it as we speak. And I do mean open right outside the Oval Office inside the White House right now. They're having these discussions. Let's play cut one thirty here. This is Joy Reid, the race lady getting freaked out. Play cut one thirty.

I, too, was on the phone throughout much of the debate with Obama, world people, with Democrats, with people who are political operatives, with campaign operatives. My phone really never stopped buzzing throughout. And the universal reaction was somewhere approaching panic. The people who were texting with me were very concerned.

about President Biden seeming extremely feeble, seeming extremely weak.

I mean, this is MSNBC. This is the home team. They are going all in on here. Washington Post says Biden struggles. Trump deflects questions. That basically is like a 10 out of 10 headline, to be perfectly honest. So, Jack, what is the path forward here? Joe Biden is meandering on a stage right now at some sort of post-event debate, a debate event. Jack, what is the path forward? There is full freakout mode on the Democrat side right now. He's not even saying hi to people.

Look, at this point, they're going to be calling for a direct replacement. So they're probably, if I'm the Democrats right now, they're not going to be talking about putting Kamala Harris in there. That's why, by the way, Kamala Harris is rushing to CNN right now.

She's trying desperately to grab onto the limelight. But I think if you're the Democrats, you want a fresh start. You don't want anyone with the taint of this administration on them. You don't want anyone with the taint of Joe Biden on them. And yes, the taint of Joe Biden is on Kamala Harris. And so they are going to look for a fresh start. I think I agree with what Charlie, what you were saying earlier. They're going to look to the governors.

They're going to look potentially to some of the senators, though I really do think it's going to be that governor bench. So people like Newsom, people like Josh Shapiro, people, by the way, possibly cabinet members. Pete Buttigieg probably, I'm sure, by the way, Pete Buttigieg will be throwing his name in as a VP. Let me tell you what I think. I think Jack just hit the nail on the head. Shapiro is really close to the front of the line. Yep. For a lot of different reasons, Charlie, some that we've discussed that

Pennsylvania is becoming extraordinarily... Pennsylvania is the pivot point. It's the absolute necessary component for them to win this presidential election. And so you don't have many choices at this point. You just hit them. But Josh Shapiro is now moving towards... A Shapiro-Whitmer ticket. But again, Kamala Harris is not... She's been planning her whole life to become president. She's not going to all of a sudden allow herself to be leapfrogged at all. That's...

That's the thing. The idea of them just casually replacing. This is a war. Everyone wants to be president. Yes, Game of Thrones is on. The Red Wedding was tonight. Total feeding frenzy. Total wipeout. The idea that they'll just consensus agree on someone is a fantasy. What do you got, Jack?

Alexander Vindman. Alexander Vindman just tweeted, if Americans were to vote tomorrow, Biden would lose. I hope Biden can recover. Not sure he can. And Vindman, by the way, this is like whistleblower Vindman tied into the CIA Vindman. If Vindman's involved, you know it's a coup. Well, how do we know this? Because he was the one that was behind the last coup. Yeah.

By the way, I want to remind the audience, if you guys want to get a signed copy of my book tonight, for anyone that becomes a member, special deal tonight. It's members.charliekirk.com. You can listen to all of our content, advertise your freeway to support our stream. The hardest working team in politics, right, Tyler? The hardest working. No question. We had a whole war room tonight. Members.charliekirk.com. I will be personalizing and signing books for anyone that becomes a member tonight. Members.charliekirk.com. This is the clip of the year. Let's play cut 132.

That the two of them decided after November of 2022 that he was going to seek the presidency when there were so many people who thought he should have turned it over to a new generation. And this has been, quite frankly, a car accident in slow motion that we've seen over and building and questioning it and.

You know, as has been pointed out, Joe Biden sought this debate at this remarkably early time because he knew he was losing and he needed to change the narrative. And he did change the narrative. He sunk his campaign tonight. He has sunk his campaign. I mean, that's definitive. This is coordinated. That man, David Plouffe, he said they are three years apart in age. They seemed 30 years apart in age.

That's David Plouffe, who is the senior advisor, wrote Audacity to Win. No, that's right. He wrote Audacity to Win under Barack Obama. The Democrat Party may need to be think even beyond 2024. Their entire party could be on the line. I mean, they might be on the verge of an extermination event right now. I'm just being honest. What? No, I mean, think the way. Have you ever seen after a presidential debate? One owns party say that we need to find a new candidate. Have you lived through something like that?

I think a lot of Republicans wanted to throw Trump out of the course. Hold on. Different thing, of course. That was because they were the establishment. An incumbent president? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just... Yeah, no, this is crazy. This is crazy. They're falling apart. They're flailing.

But unfortunately, you know how the thing with politics is. They always come back. They're already – they're freaking out so much. They're laying the groundwork for that inevitable comeback thing where they're like, we've got our new candidate. Everyone's talking all positively about them. They gave this great speech at the DNC. They were way better in the debate with Trump in September. They've got all of their narratives ready to go here. So we celebrate when we actually win, January 20th, once the oath of office is taken.

I'm going to be signing books here throughout the evening. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Jack, this is information warfare at this time. We've never seen anything like this. The unrestrained response from Democrat on Democrat friendly fire. Oh.

Well, Charlie, I mean, this certainly isn't the first time that you've seen commies turn on other commies. We've got a whole book out on humansbook.com. People can check it out. Steve Bannon was signing copies earlier. We've got special editions up there. You're seeing communists turn on another communist. You're seeing the Bolsheviks take out the Mensheviks at this point. You are seeing one side of the revolution. The younger side of the revolution is taking out Charlie. This is darkness at noon, man. This is darkness at noon. It is the

younger revolutionaries who take out the older revolutionaries the first time they've seen a sign of weakness the first time they miss a step that's exactly what we're seeing right here this is this is the same thing stalin did the minute that lenin was gone stalin was like all the trotsky's are out you are and the trotskyites are completely out trotsky himself flees to mexico uh takes an ice pick to the head he's out look this is what they're doing to biden and all the older members of the dnc were watching it happen in real time

So Chris Wallace was the one, remember, who gave Trump the hardest time in the 2020 debates. Newsom is doing a press conference like he's the one running for president right now. And it's Game of Thrones. It is Red Wedding time. That man wants to be president so bad. His whole life has been charting a course about trying to become president. And the entire Democrat Party right now is in disarray.

And they're not there. There is no guiding force here. My question, Tyler, is why is this a shock to them? Do they really think Biden was going to be able to perform that again? That chemist needs to be fired. Whoever put together his drug mixture. So who's going to be Trotsky or who's Stalin? Chuck Todd says to watch for if Pelosi or Obama. Yeah, I think that that makes sense. Like if Barack Obama says he needs to drop, he needs to drop. He's not going to do that publicly, though.

Now, if Obama all of a sudden visits the White House or he goes to Camp David, something is afoot. And he'll be like, Joe, I made you. I run this party. You don't. I will un-make you. You can have a lot of ice cream for the rest of your life. We're done. I'm seeing, by the way...

Just one statement that's really sticking that Biden said, and it's getting fact-checked everywhere. He said, I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any, this decade, troops dying anywhere in the world. Like, Biden claimed that. And that's just something where...

You're giving now free ammunition to every single attack ad because now you take him saying that. And you as we were talking in the thought crime just one week ago, one week ago tonight that they want. They're going to play that with the Afghanistan promos. I'm just getting a text here that Kamala Harris is calling in all hands at 900 tomorrow at the observatory. She's doing what?

Calling it all hands. So she's gathering her staff together tomorrow. Oh, so Kamala Harris is going for the coup. By the way, I just wrote a book out to Aaron. I'm doing one for Lawrence. It is members.charliekirk.com if you guys want to get a signed book tonight and help support the program. It's a good book. It's a great book, right, Blake? Helped extensively with it. So, Tyler, I want to ask politically here, what do we want?

Do we want Biden to hold this out? Let's say in the perfect world, we want Trump to become president. What do we want to have happen here? There's arguments for both. I think the best thing for America is, and keep in mind, if there's a disaster and a huge divide in the Democrat Party and infighting that happens in the Democrat Party, that's

Good for us for the presidential election. Bad for the world because, you know, we could have a lot of things go wrong between now and January in the world. So I would love and bad for America, obviously. So here's what I hope happens is that they go, well, we blew it. Well, there's not a whole lot we can do here. We go through the DNC convention. It just becomes that continued slow train wreck. That's what I would like to see because this isn't turning around. It's going to get worse and worse unless they pull.

That's what I'm saying. You asked what I want. I want Biden to stay in and they have nothing because everybody's too gun shy to actually take over because you also keep in mind the politics of this art. You don't want to jump in and lose too because then your career potentially is over. You lose the Trump as a Democrat.

You're not. Look at what happened to Hillary. She is discarded to the side. No one takes her seriously anymore. She is done. So if you're if you're Gavin Newsom, are you taking this risk? Are you saying, you know what? You guys created this mess. I'm sitting aside in 2028. It's going to roll around here soon. Blake, what do you think? What do we want? It's so hard because I do think you just you want Biden in for two reasons. One,

As weird as it is to say, he probably is... He's less bad than Kamala would be, honestly. He's probably less bad than Newsom or a lot of these other Democrats. They'd be more effective Democrats. You mean as president? Yeah, as president. Well, I'm talking about as a candidate. And as a candidate, man, just... Yeah, I think we want him in. I think we want a feeble guy that we can beat. I think we're at the position where...

What we know we're facing with Biden is something we know we can beat. If you introduce a new candidate, you introduce chaos. You introduce unpredictability. You introduce new dynamics that might not work as well. And so we're in favor of change the race as little as possible at this point because it is a race we know we are favored in. And Trump's never had that before. However, let's not make any – let's not confuse this. If they pull, it is a complete –

No one knows what that looks like. They look like the unstable party. Here's an obvious question. Even if Biden announces he's not running anymore, after that, and if you say he's not good enough to run for another term, how do you justify him staying in office? He kind of has to resign, doesn't he? Can I make a quick point to that, though, Charlie? We watched up close the...

COVID slash DNC fake convention that they held in Delaware last time. Yes, we saw up close. We were there. Remember, we had all our staff there. And I see here's the problem is no matter what kind of chaos that ensues, the media and the Democrat Party is more likely to cover it up than anything else. What they cannot cover up is Joe Biden now because everybody now they've shined a spotlight on it.

And so that's part of the reason why it's like, hey, yeah, could it be fun to watch some chaos? I think from a health of America standpoint, you're going to risk a lot. But more importantly, like the media is just going to lie about it. They're just going to make up stuff and then they're going to do something crazy against Trump or do something crazy, like pull some kind of lever against us to help distract. We know that's what they do all the time. And does it change, Jack, if they sentence Trump to jail on July 11th?

That's exactly what I was going to say. So the one lever that they have left, we're all talking about the DNC right now, but there is actually something that happens prior to the RNC. So prior to the RNC, just days before the start of the RNC, RNC starts, I believe it was July 14th.

Pull it up right here. July 15th. So it starts July 15th, the Thursday prior to the start of the RNC, July 11th, Donald J. Trump in New York City will face sentencing. And Steve Bannon said at the Turning Point action event in Detroit that he predicts that they will deliver, that Judge Juan Merchan will deliver a multi-year sentence to

to Donald Trump. Now, the question then would be, so let's say that happens, the question then would be, number one,

I don't think Republicans could try to get Trump away from the nomination after a performance like that. I just don't think it's possible. So the question is, what day would he have to report? And how crazy would it be, if you follow the math on this, that if Trump had to report on like November 4th or November 5th or even November 6th, so ballots are still coming in. I mean, just imagine the scenarios. Ballots are still coming in. Mail-in ballots are still being counted. And President Trump has to surrender –

This is complete insanity. And I don't want look, this was a good night for MAGA. This was a very good night for MAGA. But you have to remember, we are up against the unhuman system and they will throw everything they can at us. Now, there's gonna be a lot of pressure on Judge Wommershaw to throw Trump behind bars after tonight. Yeah. By the way, can we just appreciate how well Trump handled the abortion?

Yes, that was an amazing answer. That deflated any... CNN set up Biden for a win. That was the kicker right there, right? And that right there was the ability to do it. By the way, I'm signing books. We have 73 new books already together. 73 new members just since I've announced it. That's amazing. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Leanne gets a signed book. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Remember to tune in on Fridays. We take

questions. Yeah, now that you're a member, that's right. You get so many benefits as a member. You guys get exclusive content. All of our episodes advertise for you. You can ask me questions directly every Friday and Blake questions as well. So members.charliekirk.com. Leanne, God bless you. And I'm signing a book for you right now. I want to kind of go through the debate itself. We have been so on the debate reaction because this is so unbelievable.

Senior Democrats panic and openly discuss Biden stepping down. Front page of Drudge. Front page of HuffPost. Front page of every single news article, news station. They are saying this is an unmitigated. Hey, can we have a tape of the Hindenburg? That's exactly what happened. Oh, the humanity. Exactly. And the question is, who's going to tell Joe Biden? Does Joe Biden know yet he lost? Have they notified him that? I mean, at what point does somebody say, Mr. President?

You realize that the narrative on CNN moments after, not some fringe thing, is they're calling for you to get pulled. Let's play cut. Oh, let's put 134 up on screen. By the way, money talks, money walks. What does this show right here? Boom. What does that say, Tyler? That shows that Gavin Newsom has a 17% chance becoming president. They say that Joe Biden has a 32% chance. I think he started at like 3% or something today. Yes, that's right. 17 cents.

So these are the betting. You can see Newsom pass Joe Biden by the end of the night, which might be a little bit inflated. I think it's so inflated because I just there's a million options. This is like this is like cryptocurrency. Just so we're clear. Yeah. Newsom is like the stand in for all people who are not Kamala.

Well, Kamala went up to eight. Yes. So he was at three. She was at four. You know who didn't go up was RFK, which is really interesting. He did this fake weird debate. He went up a little bit during it, and then he went back down. Joe Biden's now down to hanging around $0.31 a month.

and Trump hasn't moved at all. So he was right at 60, 61 cents pretty much the whole night. So, Jack, I want to throw to you here the narrative. I want to repeat this for the audience. Actually, this is Kristen Welker, I believe, MSNBC. Total bloodbath in the Democrat Party. Play cut 133.

Absolutely. It could be frozen in time. And I think this goes to the disparity of the lawmaker who I heard from saying this is effectively over some even starting to question what happens moving forward. Thank you. Effectively over is Joe Biden's life over. I mean, this is how they're talking like this is a few. This is it. They on MSNBC and CNN. They are delivering the Biden campaign eulogy.

Instead of a celebratory or an analysis, they are eulogizing the Joe Biden campaign. Cheryl, you got a book. What were your thoughts? Blake, in the beginning, we were like, okay, we'd hope for a tie.

but i was the most black i was just like it'll probably be trench warfare yeah you know it's kind of like a little win here but i have to go back to something where trump won the debate where he was able to do it was when he was able to navigate out of the difficult thicket of abortion he kept his pro-life brona fides he was able to demonstrate that the radicals joe biden is a liar late-term abortion happens all across the country i thought that was trump's best debate moment in the history of his candidacy do you guys both agree 100 it was a

tough question on a tough issue that we are in the minority. We are in the minority. And he's always been in this tough spot because there are people saying you should just be pro-abortion. People are saying, no, you have to live. And it's a very tough thing for him to navigate. And he comes out and he explains why the court ruling that he brought about was a good one that was good for the country. He comes out and says,

I'm pro-democracy. I want states to have the laws that they vote on. And some will have this policy. Some will have that. The ones who are radical are Democrats who want excellent answer. Do we have some procedure everywhere in the way he pivoted? And he said, listen, I want these exceptions, which I'm not for those, but I'm not running for president.

Right? But I think you have to do that if you're running for president. And he says, we leave it to the states. You know what I loved? He didn't apologize for the reversal Roe versus Wade. He was able to say, I own it. It was the right thing. States, they're the radicals. Tyler, that was a master class in debating. Well, and most importantly for the pro-life community...

he highlighted what the Democrats really want. The Democrats want to allow abortion up until and after a baby's born. And the way he mentioned the governor of Virginia, by the way, we need to tweet out Norman. I think that's actually smart war room response to prove what he's talking about. Totally. And this is the most important point, though, is that

He is so sharp on this, which is that there's almost no American you'll find that's like, I agree with abortion up until the day of the baby. Unless you are the most. Unless you're just a sick, terrible, twisted, horrible human being. And those are so few and far between.

So this is Biden's former comms director. But in the meantime, I have to sign a book to Antonio. By the way, it's members.charliekirk.com. Joe Biden's comms director. It was a really disappointing debate performance for Joe Biden. I don't think there's any other way to slice it. His biggest issue was to prove the American people that he had energy, stamina, and he didn't do that. I mean, this is a bloodbath right now. So this is Donald Trump handling the abortion issue correctly and navigating it. Play cut 135.

So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth because some states, Democrat run, take it after birth. Again, the governor, former governor of Virginia, put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it. So he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby. Nobody wants that to happen, Democrat or Republican. Nobody wants it to happen. That is simply not true.

The Roe v. Wade does not provide for that. That's not the circumstance. Only if a woman's life is in danger, she's going to die. That's the only circumstance in which that can happen. But we are not for late-term abortion, period, period, period. Well, he just— The Roe v. Wade, you have late-term abortion. You can do whatever you want, depending on the state. You can do whatever you want. We don't think that's a good thing. We think it's a radical thing. We think the Democrats are the radicals, not the Republicans.

Do you notice how good that answer was? He made it about we, not I, the Republican Party, right? Brilliant. Pro-life party. Joe Biden is a liar. And Joe Biden saying we're not for late term abortion. He's going to have a coup from Planned Parenthood.

Yeah. If he stays in that position, he will have Cecile Richards and all those people, they will call and they'll be like, no, no, no, we're for letting his, the answer, he went off script. The answer is, I trust women and doctors to make their own medical decisions, right? Yes. That is the script. He says, we're not for late-term abortion. Trump played offense on that. That was, again, if you look at the polling, that's one of the only issues where, quote, Biden-

wins on and Trump won that exchange. Well, and now we have a clip of him saying we're not for late term abortion. And now the commercial plays for itself against the base in Georgia. So that go vote for RFK, crazy abortion person in Georgia and other places like in Texas, by the way, that for the future. Oh, yeah. We have Biden say we're not for late term abortion. And then we have immediate clips of

Of all the late-term warships. It was so good. It was Trump. Pivot, fire. Pivot, fire. It was terrific. Okay, to recap, just the headlines here, Jack, I think Dresden had a better afternoon than the Biden campaign. Jack Posobiec.

Look, when you walk through the series of Democrat missteps over the last century or so, at least LBJ had the self-dignity or at least the people around him had the self-dignity to realize that he should pull the plug long before it ever got to this point. This was hubris. This was the Biden family. And I'm just going to say it. They're a trash family. They've treated the

Their own family members like trash. They treat each other like trash. And there's no question. Look, go look at Joe Biden up there. They're holding a celebration. And Joe Biden's not even speaking. Who's got the microphone? It's Joe Biden has got the microphone. And Joe Biden is saying, Joe, you did such a great job. You answered all the questions.

He answered all the questions. Biden doesn't even know what's been going on. And I think this actually goes to a bigger level of what's happening here, because we knew that this is the same thing that happened between Eleanor Roosevelt and FDR. We talk about this in Unhumans, unhumansbook.com.

where it was Eleanor Roosevelt and a series, by the way, of Soviet spies that were all working in concert around FDR because he was catatonic by the end at Yalta. Who is running our country? This is actually a national security issue. This isn't just a guy making a buffoon full of himself on a debate stage. This is the guy in the Situation Room. This is the guy with his finger on the nuclear codes. This is the guy who was supposed to be negotiating with Putin.

This is the guy who's very cavalierly talking about invoking Article 5 against the largest nuclear state in the world, Russia. This is the person in charge. Well, I don't care about taking him out on the on the ballot. They should be talking about taking him out right now. Jack, also, I want to make sure you plug your book, too, on humans. And we have a new podcast, which everyone should subscribe to the Charlie Kirk show podcast. Take out your phone and do that all about. It's one of the best podcasts we've done together. Jack, plug your book on humans really quick.

Charlie, I hope that people get to hear that podcast. I know you're doing the member side of it. We sat down. We had probably the most in-depth conversation about this ever. This is all about how what we're viewing right now is a typical leftist uprising following the same playbook that's run for 250 years.

And when you read this thing, Unhumans, which you can purchase at unhumansbook.com, it's available at Amazon, Books A Million, everywhere, you will learn that the system that we've put together, that they put together, I should say, that we've systemized how they subvert, how they infiltrate, and how they overturn societies. They've been doing this since France in the 1790s. They're doing the same exact thing today. We go through Russia. We go through Spain. We go through China. We go through Africa. We go through South Africa. We go through...

Cuba and we go through South America, Latin America. And what people need to understand is that it can be defeated. And the inflection point we are at right now shows how important this is. That's why I was there in the war room, Stephen K. Bannon earlier today, signing hundreds of books on air with Stephen. And if you want one of those copies,

They're flying right now. But Steve was gracious enough to sign a few copies. He wrote the foreword to it. And, of course, we're calling that the political prisoner edition. Okay, everybody, email us, freedom at charliekirk.com, and subscribe to our podcast. Open up your podcast application and type in charliekirk.com.

Okay, I want to continue with the tape here. And for those of you that have just started to tune in, it is a bloodbath over there at the Democrat Party. It is a bloodbath. What is the best tape? Get the best one. Oh, there's another one on MSNBC right now. And by the way, I have to sign right now one to adammembers.charliekirk.com. And you guys can listen to all of our content, including the Jack Posobiec interview that he just talked about, is only on MSNBC.

the member site, members.charliekirk.com. That is members.charliekirk.com. And it's a way to support our show, get all of our content advertiser-free. So what is the best tape here to play? Let's go back here. I want to replay this one here. Oh, by the way, this is a little bit of a spin. They're saying that Joe Biden had a cold. This is their new spin. Joe Biden had a cold, everybody. Play cut 137.

This is my tenth one of these, and when the incumbent is running, the American people are being asked, keep what you got. Do you like what you got? Stay the course.

That was not a state of course performance from a president who, when he walked on stage, knew the fundamentals of this race were already bent against him. They had a 38% approval rating. 60 plus percent of the country thinks we're on the wrong track. And as Abby noted earlier, there were already significant doubts about, can you do this for four more years? It's the toughest job in the world. And so even in the middle of the debate saying he had a cold,

I have a cold. I get it. I get it. That sucks. But he's the president of the United States. When the phone rings at 3 o'clock in the morning, the world doesn't matter if you have a cold or not.

John King, gloves off. By the way, Daisy, you've got to print this. I just sent this to you. The front page of Politico.com. I really wish these modern websites had newspapers we could just print out because I want the newspaper. Can we just say, I don't know if we're going to win. I'm going to enjoy tonight because we have not had a night this good since 2016. We haven't won anything. I haven't felt this good in a while. I think we deserve these bad people to suffer for a night.

I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it out loud because the front page of Politico.com is Biden is toast. That is the front page of Politico.com. Wow.

This is motivation, by the way, to fight even harder. That's right there. The front page of Politico. Biden is toast. And we're going to enjoy this for tonight. And then we get back to work tomorrow. We're going to chase ballots. Right, Tyler? We need to use this as a reason to go register more voters. This is a reason to go out. By the way, download the Turning Point Action app, which Tyler walked them through how to do that just really quick and become a one-stop shop force multiplier. Tyler, super quick. And by the way, I have to sign. Oh, thank you, Daisy. Look at that. Amazing. This is looking. We zoom in really quick.

I'm going to frame this. Biden is toast. I don't know if they can see this. Biden is toast. And by the way, the election is not over. We're going to enjoy tonight because I think we deserve it after January 6th, disappointing midterms. It's been a real sucky political couple of years for us. I mean, it's just been Joe Biden's America, right? I think tonight we all deserve kind of like a, you

you know, there can be, but it's not, we want election night to be the final judgment, 30 seconds, turning point action app to become a force multiplier. You got to go to wherever you get your applications from the Apple app store, Google play store, TP action.com. Uh, download the application. It's TP action, not TP USA. That's for our high school and college kids. Yep. TP action. That's where you're going to be able to go. Top left hand corner, tap the arrow. You can start knocking doors, making phone calls. Uh,

texting your neighbors, uploading your contacts, going through it. It'll tell you exactly who's Republican and who's an independent in your neighborhood. Go through it and we need your help. We're going to be doing ballot chasing events all across Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada. We have some big announcements next week. We're putting a lot more full-time jobs. We're hiring literally hundreds of people in Arizona, Wisconsin. We are...

So serious. It doesn't matter how weak Joe Biden is. That's the stronger that we have to be. And so we need you and need everybody out there to help us download the turning point action app right now. This night, by the way, I just I want to say, Jack, we we deserve all of you in the audience right now that have been kicked and spit on said that Joe Biden is fully mentally acute. It's a cheap fake. By the way, we have the Chuck Todd clip that says all the things that the right wing were saying was correct. Can we get that Chuck Todd clip?

clip you deserve tonight you deserve just to be able to say one for the good guys and then we get back to work I just want to say that because it has been very difficult I got to sign a book right here for Brian who just became a member members that Charlie Kirk calm we are about to connect back to real America's voice but when you become a member you guys get a signed book oh this one is also to Jason and the next one is to Sarah so

Jason, you got a book. Jason, God bless. I'm going to send you a book. And you get so many other benefits, too, at members.charliekirk.com. Okay, do we have the sleepy Todd? Okay, hello to Real America's Voice. I just want to say, Real America's Voice.

To our amazing audience that Jack and I talked every day, and Jack, I'm going to throw back to you in a sec. You guys deserve tonight. This is not a victory in a political sense. Electorally, I mean. But this is a victory for the good guys. For those of you in this audience that took out your shovels and you dug out of the ditch that was January 6th when Donald Trump was politically dead by the media—

You deserve tonight. For those of you that took out your wallet and your limited budget and gave 30 bucks to Donald Trump when he got convicted a year and a half ago, you deserve tonight. And I hope you enjoy it because tonight,

Far too often do we just pass by the victories, and I'm not one to be like, okay, no, you tonight should be able to smile and say yes, because you all played a role in this. This is a morale boost. This is us finally saying we can win. We can overcome that. And every single one of you in this audience, God bless you, because you had Trump's back.

when everyone, the knives were out to get rid of Trump after the second impeachment, when they were talking about trying to have a bloody primary. And you guys said, no, we're going to stand with the true president. We're going to stand with the duly elected president. And tonight, that is a, one sec, Jack, that is a vindication of your resolute loyalty to the MAGA agenda. So I just want to say you guys should enjoy it. We're going to go through it. And also I'm signing books for those that become members, members.charliekirk.com. Jack, continue.

So Kamala Harris is up. She's on CNN and she's carrying the water. She doesn't she doesn't have the stones for it. She doesn't have the spine. She's not she's not dropping the knife in. So Kamala Harris could have taken the mantle of the Democrat Party tonight and become the heir apparent. But apparently she's up there. We'll get the clips in a second. But she's up there carrying water. And Anderson Cooper is just giving it to her.

absolutely giving it to her, trying to fight for her future, trying to say that that it wasn't a terrible performance. This is bad. This is just really, really bad. And what Kamala Harris, what can I say? Some people got it. Some people have that dong in them. You never really did. You were always someone who piggybacked on the accomplishments of others. You're honestly not even a good Democrat. And I just one sec, Tyler, and I just want to reiterate this for everybody in the audience. What you have been up against

the smearing and the slandering even from fellow Republicans when people said, oh, he's an insurrectionist, we have to turn the page on Trump. Tonight, he showed at the highest level the self-control. Show me a Republican that could have navigated the abortion question as well as Trump did tonight. He talked about the border. He talked about immigration. He talked about the economy. And...

For those of you that have flown those MAGA flags high and proudly, I see you guys. You watch our show every day on RAV. You are in the grassroots. Those of you that are precinct committeemen, those of you that show up to our Turning Point Action events in Detroit, tonight you could say...

I was right. And we're going to prove everyone even more right in November. OK, I got to write a book right now to Amanda because they did become a member. Members dot Charlie Kirk dot com. Tyler, I was going to say there's there's homework that we all have to do tomorrow. And tomorrow is going to be one of the most important days of the election cycle. Every person here has friends who are Democrats. They have family members who are Democrats. If they're not voting for Trump because they can't bring themselves to it. Tell all your friends to be voting, pulling the lever for RFK.

Tell them tomorrow you've got options to jump, jump the ship. The Democrats are jumping while they're jumping tomorrow. Get them in the resolve portion right now to say, I'm a Democrat. I have a Democrat option. His name is RFK. That's right. So, and by the way, we just hit three million on Twitter. And so pretty awesome. So breaking news, Donald Trump just got indicted for murdering an elderly man. Yeah, that's a bad.

It's good. So I want to just play one more here on Real America's Voice as we have them. Just as a recap of the vibe, the rats are jumping the ship on the Democrat Party. This is the clip of the year. Chris Wallace, who is a snake and a serpent. He has the green light from the oligarchs. Play cut 132.

That the two of them decided after November of 2022 that he was going to seek the presidency when there were so many people who thought he should have turned it over to a new generation. And this has been, quite frankly, a car accident in slow motion that we've seen over and building and questioning it and questioning.

You know, as has been pointed out, Joe Biden sought this debate at this remarkably early time because he knew he was losing and he needed to change the narrative. And he did change the narrative. He sunk his campaign today. He changed the narrative. All right. And you believed your you understand without Donald Trump's base, without you that stood by Donald Trump at those darkest moments when it looked like there was no political future.

then Donald Trump would not have been able to navigate this. But those of you that stood by him, this tonight is vindication. It is full spectrum. And by the way, imagine how bad those Robert Hurt tapes must have been, is what Laura Ingram says. I want to get the Chuck Todd here. But Jack, final thoughts here as we are still on Real America's Voice. I've got to sign more books for our members, members.charliekirk.com. This one is going to Teresa. Jack.

Look, folks, we got to remember tonight's a good night, but they are going to try to find a way to fire back at us. I think you're going to see a more unleashed Merrick Garland come up here. If you thought that Merrick Garland was off the chain here, he now knows that he's only got six months left.

What does a desperate Merrick Garland look like? What does a Merrick Garland who knows he has nothing to lose look like? What do the unhumans running the show who realize that they're up against the ropes, that the American people have completely turned against them, what would they be willing to do? And I keep coming back to this, and I just have this, I have this feeling in my gut, guys, when all the times that Joe Biden kept mentioning Article 5, Article 5, Russia, Article 5, Russia,

There's something going on there. I want to play Chuck Todd, who vindicates all of us. Play cut 138.

You know, one of the things was, would either candidate look like the caricature that the other campaign has been trying to paint of him? And at the end of the day, Joe Biden looks like the caricature that that conservative media has been painting. And there were no clips tonight. Right. This was you saw it before your eyes. Look, I don't want to just tell you what I think here, Tom. I've been talking to a lot of leaders in the Democratic Party electeds.

coalition leaders, there's a full-on panic about this performance. Not like, oh, this is recoverable. It is more of a, okay, he's got to step aside. There's a lot of that chatter. This is about as bad of a performance in order to, that Biden could have delivered if his goal was to try to sort of calm the waters among Democrats. I mean, look, there were

It's as bad as it gets, everybody. And Trump deserves credit because here's the thing. If Trump would have there was one moment where if Trump would interjected, it might have changed the entire narrative. Remember that when Joe Biden was prodding him and he was like, hey, hey, pal, you're a loser. You know, my son didn't die. All these were rehearsed, nonsensical stuff. And Trump just went like this.

And CNN said, let's go to commercial break. And at that moment, it was over. Joe Biden was counting on Donald Trump's backlash and him kind of speaking out there, and it did not happen. I've got to write another members.charliekirk.com. But, yes, Blake. It's just everything about this. It's remarkable, right? This is a night that will be remembered. Yeah. This is incredible.

Honestly, this is like the strongest Trump has ever looked. And relatively then especially impressive about it is it's not for anything that you'd usually highlight as a Trump strength. Beforehand, all these people talked about the best Trump debate moments are when he has, you know, those quips that he intrudes in on. And nope, turns out he didn't need any of those. Turns out he could do great just looking distinguished on TV. Turns out Trump is good at being on TV almost regardless of the rules. Who knew?

I got to play this tape here. Do we have the Kamala Harris tape? She says it was a slow start. I'm not going to debate that. She says it was a slow start. I'm not going to. You think it was a slow start? By the way, Kamala Harris, I agree with you, Jack. She would have went for the kill. She could have went for the kill, right? Kamala Harris could have been like right there. She could have been like, maybe we need to have an open convention. By the way, don't be surprised if the crime families, the Democrat Party assemble soon. Here is Kamala Harris. By the way, make no mistake.

Look at the aesthetics here. Look at the optics. Her team knows what's going on here. She looks very female presidential here. I just got to be honest. The way they set up this, look at the aesthetics here. Look at the lean in the chair that she has. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I agree with Charlie. Charlie's right. I'm going to be vindicated. The way that they set this up, they said, this is your moment. You can't throw Joe under the bus. Let's play cut 141. She should have. And I have to sign a book to Kirby who just became a member. 141.

Listen, first of all, what we saw tonight is the president making a very clear contrast with Donald Trump on all of the issues that matter to the American people. Yes, there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish. And what became very clear through the course of the night is that Joe Biden is fighting on behalf of the American people on substance, on policy, on performance.

Joe Biden is extraordinarily strong. And I'm sorry, on substance and policy and performance tonight. I mean, the president's performance tonight clearly was disappointing for his supporters.

I mean, thank you, Anderson Cooper, for doing. I mean, this is the rules have changed, Tyler. I love. Actually, I just recalled the end of the debate. Remember when it was like Trump went through all of it. He was very patient. He was excellent. He was excellent. His tone was consistent. He didn't get out. He was like this. He was like, wave like we've seen Donald Trump and debate situations go like this. Right. And he was like, baby.

And at the end, remember, he kind of got a little bit like calmly frustrated. He said, we're wasting a whole lot of time up here while Joe's destroying the country. I just went through this whole debate. I'm up against, you know, I feel bad debating you because you're so out of your mind and we're wasting all this time. Who's really running the country and destroying it? And I need to get back in there and help save it. And so I thought that was actually a really strong moment.

where people are going to probably gloss over it and not talk about it enough. But I thought it was really important and really impactful for Trump to say, this is a waste. Debating someone as incompetent as you is a waste. And we've got to do this, what, three or four more times? No, there's only one more. And by the way, Trump should say I'm done. I thought there was three. You think one more? Why would you not want to do more? One in the meantime, until the next one, meaning they want to do an August one.

I would say debate anytime you want. Whatever Joe Biden in because that's the other thing. If Joe Biden's supposed to debate and they can't replace him in the meantime. This is I'm trying to understand the path forward here, Jack. So, Jack, if you were to say nominee, not nominee, what I think Kamala Harris like that looks like a presidential type thing. That's all. She's not there doing a gaggle. Look at that. She's not there supporting her boy.

She's not there doing live hits. She may be their only option, Charlie. Like I said, why would you waste? Why would you throw your chances for 2028 out the window? If you're Gavin Newsom, Shapiro, anyone else, this is a real bad situation for the Democrat party. Kamala is the one you throw out there. Kamala also understands that she's the right. So she's kind of the one where she understand her team at least understands. And they clearly understand that she's,

She's got the best inside track right now because she's already vice president. She's already got the trappings of the office. She has the incumbency. She has somewhat of a bully pulpit. And this was a moment. So what she's trying to do here is now there is a much more aggressive move that she could have made to actually call for an open convention. She could have called for an open convention right now and said, let's let the people decide. Well, of course, trying to work it. So that tells me, by the way, she doesn't have it locked up.

Behind the scenes, Kamala Harris does not have this locked up. So she's trying to look like a team player, you know, act like a team player, but look like someone who wants the presidency. That's why you saw the poise. That's why you saw the staging. That's why you saw all the trappings of the office. Even the way that she was talking, taking on this, you know, almost using the royal we there. This is somebody who...

who desperately wants the presidency and knows that she's got to show up. I want to play another Kamala Harris. Can we just have a screenshot of Kamala Harris up on screen? That looks like someone who knows what they're doing as someone who's trying to address the nation. If she was truly the number two and not someone who's waiting in the wings, she would have been at the debate doing a press gaggle like Gavin Newsom. That looks like somebody that is...

Right there. Thank you. Blake, look at the optics of that. Look at the aesthetics. That is not like a good partner right there. That is single solo shot, not overly emphasizing Biden. Do you disagree? I think it could be easy to overanalyze this. I think...

If you're Kamala and you want to be president, still the best way to be president is to get Biden's like shambling corpse through November. He wins. And then they're like, okay, yeah, Biden can't be president. And you shove him aside. You're president now. That's her best odds. She definitely doesn't want an open convention. Then that's how you get replaced. How does he win now? Yeah, by the way. No, but how does he win after a big performance like that? If he wins, I don't know.

I don't know. People have short memories. You get lucky. You can always get lucky. This is in video games, by the way. This is called what Democrats are about to do over the next, what, three months is in video games what they call mashing the keyboard.

They're just going to mash the keyboard, press every single button that they can think of. They're going to fire Kamala Harris button. They're going to fire the World War Three is around the corner. And unfortunately, we're going to see escalation. Now we're going to see escalation in the Middle East. We're going to see escalation in Asia with vis-a-vis Taiwan. We're going to see escalation with Russia because and by the way, Biden's going to want the escalation because Biden is now desperate to prove himself to prove himself.

I'm a real leader. I'm a wartime leader. I'm going to stand up to Russia. I'm going to stand up to China. And I'm going to stand up to Iran. And I'm going to stand up to Hamas. And he's going to call for increasingly reckless military action that would in and of itself trigger a third world war. All right. I have to sign some books here. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Chase, who just became a member. That's Members.CharlieKirk.com. And understand, everybody.

the chances are we are not running against Joe Biden. And so we need to enjoy tonight. We need to stay and understand that tonight is a long overdue victory for all of you that have had Trump's back. And then we get to work. We get to work. Gavin Newsom said, quote, we've got to have the back of this president. You don't turn your back on

on somebody just because of one performance. So the surrogates don't yet have the green light that the CNN folks yet have, but they are inches away, inches away from being able to jump into that position right there. And so, Tyler, from a political standpoint, who is easier to beat, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris? I mean, like I said, after a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, right? Right now, today, after what you just saw, let's just keep

feeling this one out down the track here, right? Like, I don't think we need to throw any other wrenches into this, to the system. Everyone already hates Kamala. She's already on the ticket, so she's not going anywhere. So it's, you know, I think Biden weakens everybody. And after today's debate performance, uh,

You just let this thing feel its way down the road here, and you're going to win. And we just have to do the work. Because keep in mind, again, nobody thought John Fetterman had the brain cells to be able to win Pennsylvania.

And time kept going and time kept passing and the polls kept not changing. And people were like, wait, how are the polls? I mean, even to this point with Joe Biden, we've looked at the polls and gone, how is it possible that he's getting 46, 47 percent of these polls? So you have to keep in mind that nothing is is a for sure thing. Kamala is equally as competent or incompetent, as you could say, as John Fetterman, as Joe Biden, as Katie Hobbs.

The Democrats have the systems in place to win elections. So let's stick with what is not working for them right now, which is Joe Biden and build the infrastructure that we need to win, which is exactly what we're doing here at Turning Point Action. Every single day. OK, I want to get to this. I think we have the tape here. Do we have the black voter panel from MSNBC? By the way, have we seen any flash polls or are they suppressing the flash polls, Jack?

Rush Limbaugh taught us this. When they do not show flash polls, they're not good for their selected candidate. That's a classic Russian. That is a classic Russian. Flash polls are the first thing you see, but then if they don't go away, rushism. Yes, rushism. El Rushbo taught all of us that if there is not instant data, the data is no good. Okay, let's play cut 143. Black voters weigh in on the debate. In the meantime, I have to sign another book who just became a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Play cut 143.

Raise your hand for me if you voted for Biden in 2020 and keep your hand up if you're still with him this time around after that debate. Slowly going down.

By the way, I love how they only have three people. They don't have to do like this hand up, hand down thing. It's just three people. You almost wonder if they just went outside, like outside CNN's HQ. If you scale that, Joe Biden has lost 66% of the black vote based on that little sample size. You know, blacks, it's happening. By the way, Jack, what was going on? I'm signing a book right now to Liz, members.charliekirk.com on black Twitter tonight. What was going on?

You know, Charlie, there's a word that... Don't say... Jack, tonight's a great night. Don't even joke about it. What's going on? Yeah, no, I know, but I'm not going to joke about it, but people are like, I rock with Trump. Okay, thank you. I rock with Trump. Trump is my guy. I rock with that guy. That this... You know, I rock with Trump. He's hilarious. This guy, I don't know what he's about, but people said they don't like him, but I think he's hilarious. People...

And by the way, yeah, they were making fun of Biden, but I would also point out that there were so many people on Black Twitter, and you'd see there's lots of screenshots about this, where they were like, I really like the way Trump is coming across. And I think, by the way, that this is a time where people really tuned in and gave Trump a fair shake. He hasn't been around in four years, so we haven't had the four years of everything bad is Trump's fault, everything bad is Trump's fault.

So people tuned in and for a lot of people, they were listening to Trump for the very first time and saying, I like this guy. He comes across as funny. He's light. He's serious where he needs to be. But then he goes back to to keeping it real. And I think Trump kept it real tonight. I think he was chill when he needed to be.

I think that the golf thing was really humanizing. I thought it was funny. I thought it was, you know, it's like an alpha male talking to another male saying, you know, I've seen your stroke, you know, your stroke. There's a lot of people who can just relate to that type of talk. That's, by the way, actual locker room talk. And everyone saw that Biden cowered. He shrunk away from it and he lost. And I think that Trump won a lot of support tonight, a lot of community. So I want to bring up an interesting topic.

point here but first I have to sign more books in a second but so I want to bring up an interesting question here do you think Democrats are afraid to want to jump into the fray that yes like they don't want to jump into the chainsaw you can't you can't I mean think about it just just put yourself in this position so if there was a person that this was their only shot was right now that would be the case right so Kamala you can make the argument this is her only shot right

Kamala is never going to have a chance to become president ever again outside of being VP. This is her shot. This is her one shot. So she's probably willing to jump into the fray. Gavin Newsom, probably not. He's really young. He has a lot of opportunity ahead of him. This will not be the last chance he has to run for president. I think that's really smart. Who wants to actually? Do you agree? Well, I think what you'll see is the thing that you have to know is, above all, these guys don't want Trump to be president again.

Yes, but they also don't want to lose to him. They don't want to lose. He'd become irrelevant to Hillary. The thing is, if you actually watch, we saw Biden at that event with Jill Biden looking silly, but that was a supportive crowd. He is still in a bubble that will tell him, I did great and people like me. And Biden's a stubborn guy. The media has always disliked Biden. They didn't like him in 2020. They didn't really like that he pulled it all together and was the guy who got the nomination. They wanted basically anyone else. They were always cycling through different stars.

And what's going to happen here is if Biden digs in his heels and says, I'm not leaving, they basically have like a day to force this through. And if they don't get it, they're just going to realize if we keep attacking, we're just undermining our cause and we're making it more likely that Trump wins. And Biden says he's not leaving. And it's almost like Biden can just force them to get back on side by saying, I'm not leaving tough. Yeah.

So really, really quick, Tyler, I just need to say Cooper, thank you for becoming a member. Members got Charlie Kirk dot com. I want to just talk about members really quick. You guys can call in every Friday. There's so many benefits. There's an online community. You guys get every episode that we do on the Charlie Kirk show advertiser free. You guys get a signed book of my new book, Right Wing Revolution, that I will personalize just to you. And they can call in every Friday.

sometimes email, but almost every Friday. Our schedule's been so crazy and everything. But once we get back to regular standard time and regular standard order, you guys can call in every Friday and ask me questions directly. That is a perk for members only and exclusive member-only questions.

You guys can also email us whenever you want. I respond to a lot of those emails personally. You can talk to Blake, talk to the entire team. So it's members.charliekirk.com. And get exclusive interviews as well that are not posted. My interview with Candace Owens, Vivek Ramaswamy, Jack Posobiec. That's all there, members.charliekirk.com. I want to play a piece of tape here. 145, Democrat donors, Democrat voters are very upset with Biden's performance. Play cut 145.

And Biden is like, oh, no, he is really in a bad shape. And can he can he even run in the rest of the election or take the White House again? I just don't see how that would work. So, yeah, maybe an open convention is open convention.

Blake, can you read this tweet? This is just a random tweet from someone called Cold Healing. Genuinely pretty funny that the most well-funded political group on the planet can't find anyone cool to be their public face, so they have to run the corpse of the friend of the single last cool person that they found, who they found in 2005. It is remarkable. And there's a lot of Democrats asking, like, why didn't we pull this guy earlier?

Well, yeah, I mean, this is what we've been hearing all year long, though, right? We were expecting it. We've been anticipating it. And like we said, okay, all of a sudden these states are marching forward and these delegates are pledging themselves. The key thing is... We thought, remember back in January, February, that was going to happen. Every party thinks the opponents are more centrally organized than they really are. And so we think, oh, they're going to pull them because that would make sense. And the real truth is it's fact.

thousands of people all with their own agendas and concerted action is difficult. The best proof you have of that is in 2016, they, like the entire Republican establishment, could not stop Donald Trump from winning the Republican nomination when none of them wanted him to do it. Just the voters wanted him to do it. No, that's exactly right. Tyler, you got a thought?

We have a, did we read this from Andy Calvert? Chat here, I paid chat. It's Charlie. Noah's talking about the fact that Joe Biden used the term illegal immigrant. He also said that Hamas needs to be destroyed. He just lost his base. So he said that the Democrats don't stand for late term abortion and

He's right. You use the term illegal immigrant. You're not supposed to use that. We prefer illegal aliens. So he's going to have a base problem, too. Oh, yeah. There's things that are here, and this is really smart from Andy, that are going to spin out. By the way, Joe Biden voluntarily brings up migrant crime when talking about abortion. Yeah.

Is that like one of the dumbest political things ever? Dude, when he brought it up before Trump did. It was unbelievable. It blew my mind. So here we are. We're talking about it. And there was a woman who was raped by an illegal, which is a separate issue. Wait, so let me get this straight. So we need abortions because open border?

And then he said, by the way, I don't think we've said this. I don't think we've actually said this, but he had this phrase, and this is trending on Twitter, so I'm going to say it. He had this phrase. He said, people are raped by their spouses. They're raped by their brothers and sisters. What is going on? Oh, yeah. That was... Joe, like...

By the way, the clips from this stuff is going to live forever. I guess men can be pregnant now. So if men can be pregnant, I mean, this is insane. I want to get to some of this tape here. So this is this is Caitlin Collins. They're fact checking. They are brutalizing Joe Biden, brutalizing him, calling him a liar, misleading. I mean, again, you have to wonder CNN. Just let's take a step back, everybody.

Jake Tapper and Dana Bash were unusually fair. CNN cut to a commercial right before Donald Trump was going to respond to something with Joe Biden. Right after the debate, the CNN panel takes out their AR-15s and start unloading rounds in the Biden campaign. You wonder if the green light of CNN on high from Schumer Pelosi said, go hard. It is over. Play cut 147. This does not sound like CNN.

Some of them, he said, he's the only president in a while who didn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world. Troops have, of course, died on his watch. He said he's put in a $15 per shot cap on insulin and Medicare. It's a $35 a month cap. He said it's a $200 cap on overall drug spending and Medicare. It's

$2,000 a year. He said the border now has fewer crossings than when Trump was in office. That's generally not true. He said, or at least strongly suggested, unemployment was at 15% when he took office. It was actually 6.4%. He said Trump wants to get rid of Social Security. Trump doesn't. He said billionaires pay 8.2% in taxes. It's much higher. He said Trump told Americans to inject

bleach amid COVID. We know Trump made foolish comments about scientists studying disinfectant injection, but didn't frame it as advice to people. And Biden said the border patrol endorsed him. No, it's union supported the border bill. He'd supported never endorsed him himself. And is this Steve Bannon's war room or CNN? Yeah,

Am I living in an alternate universe? I'm telling you. I'm telling you. That's why I say this is a coup. It is a green light. I totally agree. Jack, I'm going to throw it to you uninterrupted here. But first, I have to sign a book to Andrew, members.charliekirk.com that just signed up. Andrew Colvett, he finally became a supporter? Finally became a supporter. New book, Right Wing Revolution. Jack, talk about your foreign intelligence expert. Why does this have all the hallmarks of a CIA regime change operation?

- Look, so earlier today on War Room, I detailed how the CIA got involved in our previous elections in 2016 and 2020 through the Steele dossier and then through the letter of 51 signed by the Intel officials against Hunter Biden.

which was quarterbacked by Tony Blinken and was signed off on by none other than James Clapper. And people can read Paul Sperry's piece in Real Clear Investigations earlier today. But people also have to understand that in a foreign, in a color revolution, the first thing that you do

is you have all of the media, you take control of the media, you give them your talking points, you have all your apparatchiks, and then you have them pump this out. So in the third world, in the Middle East, by the way, or in different parts of Eurasia, you'll have different outlets, different media outlets, and you'll say, okay, well, this outlet is controlled by this oligarch, this outlet is controlled by the intelligence sector,

This outlet is controlled by the military. And you just sort of know that. You sort of understand that. And so you know when there's a coup activity going on, you'll say, OK, well, this is the military. This is this one. Prokosin was in Russia, for example. He had this attempted coup about, I think, just exactly one year ago. And people were kind of questioning who was exactly pulling the strings. But it was very clear that this was an open coup against Putin. And so, you know, he got what happens to people.

who launch coups against Putin when they don't have the pieces against them. On this time around, there's a coup being launched against a weak leader by their own side to try to take, to try to prevent a strong opponent from coming in. This is something you see again and again in leftist uprisings, as I said before, in

Spain. You saw this in Russia when the Russian provincial government wasn't doing well enough. And so Lenin and his merry band of misfits decided to launch a coup on the Winter Palace in the second November revolution. Charlie, you and I have a great discussion coming up about this. The people, when they join Charlie's members program, will be able to have access to very soon here that this is what they do. When you are perceived as weak,

You are taken out. It's as simple as that. That's leftist politics. That's been their power politics for 250 years. Well, it's not going to be a metaphorical clean kill, right, Jack? I mean, what does this look like? I mean, what is it, Kamala Harris, who calls the shots? The ticket I think they're angling for you heard it here first is if Kamala if Kamala goes up at the convention, Pete Buttigieg, number two.

Harris Buttigieg. Buttigieg has been a really loyal automaton in the waiting. Or they go Harris Whitmer. But I don't think they go two women. I don't. I don't think they go two women. I think Harris Buttigieg. Now, I want to ask another serious question here as I sign another book, by the way, for one of our members. Members.CharlieKirk.com to Annette is the sentencing. Blake, do you now think it is more likely Donald Trump gets prison time on July 11th? And if you say the politics don't impact it, come on.

Judge Mershon is all that now stands between Donald Trump's movement that is unstoppable and ascendant. What does Judge Mershon now do on July 11th? Blake Neff. I think, well, I think he'll get prison time in his sentence. The big question is, is he ordered to serve it immediately? I still lean towards it won't happen. Let me ask you it differently. Does the intensity and the ferocity of the punishment increase or decrease after tonight?

Do you think it goes down? This is the judge. You think he's worried? Oh, you have to be. Well, tell me why you have it out. You have to be because look, judges don't have Supreme Court justices don't have like full time protection. OK, there are people there are judges that are very scared of public opinion. They're very scared of the media. They're very scared of what they're what's going to be written history books about them.

And, uh, Marshawn has jumped the shark a little bit here. And there is an opportunity now after seeing this disaster of saying, I'm not going to participate with this anymore. And so I think there's going to be a little bit of a, we have a pull backpedaling. What number did I tell you guys outside that Trump was going to win by?

It was 60. Did you say 60 something? 65? Final poll. Donald Trump, 67%. Joe Biden, 33%. Do I not know the pulse? That's gruesome. Do I not know the pulse of the American body politic? That's gruesome given like... Did I not call that Tyler? You said 65. I always said 65. So it's off by two points. I can sense how people view things. Why? Because I text all day long.

No, literally. And Freedom at Charlie Kirk. And Freedom at CharlieKirk.com. So anyway, breaking news. Let's get this up on stage. Sorry to interrupt, Tyler. And we're live on Real America's Voice. CNN post-debate poll. Who won the debate? Donald Trump, 67%. Joe Biden, 33%. Which means one out of three thought Joe Biden did well, which is like your ultra-partisan blue. That's just like one third is locked in no matter what. So that means that like every – look at the screen right there, guys. Look at that. They lost every independent.

That is unbelievable. You know, I'm thinking about it harder. It definitely increases the risk that the judge throws him in jail. I don't know if it will happen, but there is a type of liberal out there, and it's a common type, and I don't know for sure if Judge Marchand is one of them, but he could be, where they'll just think, it's all down to me. Only I can save democracy now.

Our democracy is in peril. I must save it. You're giving them too much credit. On Judge Mershon, we have to throw this out there because this is something a lot of people didn't pick up on this. But Steve Bannon was originally supposed to be up with Judge Mershon in his September case on We Build the Wall. Judge Mershon was recently switched out of that case. That means –

So he's reassigned. That means he's got an even freer hand to take a shot on gold here on July 11th.

I totally agree. By the way, I have to write another book. We're running. We got Daisy. I need more books, by the way. Look at this book pile I have here. Can we get that in the shot where we are signing books live of our new book? Members dot Charlie Kirk dot com members dot Charlie Charlie Kirk dot com. So the question is, so that's an interesting question. More or less likely judgment. All eyes on Judge Mershon. When you have a presidential debate, do we have any initial ratings numbers, by the way?

No idea. That'll come out. That'll come out. That 67%. Blake, have we ever seen a delta like that in modern? I mean... I don't think so. Even when Trump did not do well with the debate back in 2020, it wasn't that bad. A bad debate is, yeah, like 55-45, something like that. Is usually 67% of people that watch thought Donald Trump won? That's crazy. And there are a lot of people watching today. I mean, I think... I can't wait to see the numbers. I'm going to look up the 2020 numbers. Minimum 70 million. So... Yeah, I mean, it's...

We're talking tens of millions of people. If you don't think that this is going to have some kind of massive negative impact here on the Biden campaign, I mean, this is the next 10 days are going to be historical in the amount of running around

that the Democrat Party is going to be doing. No, I mean the maneuvering and the question not only is who, but it is how. It is how are they going to recover on this, right? So let me throw out another scenario that we haven't talked about that could happen.

So we talked about the people who probably won't stick their necks out because they have a political future. So, you know, Gretchen Whitmer. This is a smart point. What you're saying for people just tuning in is that they don't want to run into the buzzsaw this late in the game. So who will? So we have to look at this from a political context of like who has is willing to risk everything because their career is largely dying or dead anyways. So you've got Kamala Harris.

You've got a couple other options too, Charlie, and this is something worth thinking about. There are some retiring moderate Democrat type U.S. Senators who

There are former governors that are in that camp. There are so. Oh, I see. So can I interrupt? So you're talking about a admirable sacrificial lamb. So kind of like we know we're behind. So an example would be John Kerry. That's a crazy example. But or Hillary, who would take it? I'll give you an example. Hillary, an example. John McCain.

He's dead. John McCain was an example on our side. No, he wasn't. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's a great point. That's a smart point. No, no, no, no, no. That's very smart. You're right. I'm talking about in who's alive and sentient right now. But you have like. Because the Obama buzzsaw was there. They said, put up the neocon. Give him his chance. You've got people who've sold their souls to the Democrat Party, like Jeff Flake, for example, who is the ambassador to Turkey right now, has completely abandoned the Republican Party. He's not going to run.

I understand. But what I'm saying is, is like there's people out there that will be willing to just like throw their body to be into the business of running for president because they their their trajectory is upward. I think it would be more loyal Democrats that would do that. So let's think about who that would be. It'd be a mixture of like old bull, new bull, new bull.

The DNC is not going to take a Republican. But people that have long-term ambitions, they're not going to want to get into the buzzsaw called the MAGA movement. That's right. But it might be somebody who is kind of neoconservative, who can limit the losses. Is that right? By the way, I want to read one of our super chats. Charlie and team Bearded Viking here. I'm up to 68 registered voters. You know this guy's trying to get to 250. We do it on our show every day. We love Bearded Viking.

He's amazing. 68 registered voters. Bearded Viking. If I haven't sent you... Look at his books. If I haven't sent you a book yet, Bearded Viking, I will. And you get a free membership. Members.CharlieKirk.com. You register. 100 voters. You get a free membership. We're going to fly him out to Phoenix. I love that guy. Tyler, I want to keep on playing around with this, though. I think it's important. Blake, I want you to think of some names. If they determine...

It's so late in the game. Newsom's out. Kamala Harris is out. They want to go to the kind of stoic, old-school Democrat, kind of like Gore Lieberman. Who in the Democrat apparatus...

you know, would do that or could do that. What if you grabbed Joe Manchin? He's like, he's an independent now, right? He's an independent now, but they might be really desperate. Let me give you an example. Let me give you a really good example, close to home here, unfortunately. Janet Napolitano.

Yeah, because she has some border kudos. She's on her way out the door. She comes in as like a hero on a white knight, former Arizona governor hero. I'm just saying there's just people. No, no, I hear you. How about somebody? Jerry Brown, California. Oh, Jerry Brown's interesting. Or someone who is so politically ambitious like Beto O'Rourke who will just do it anyway. I know that's like a crazy name. Yeah, he's not likable. Their bench is so lacking. But they want someone likable. So they want like a...

They want somebody like a Jerry Brown or a, you know what I mean? Somebody that just doesn't care where they just go to him and they go, Hey, you're, you know, you're likable. Like you can't, like they don't have that much. They've Andrew Cuomo, Elliot Spitzer, you know, John Corzine. I mean, you got people who are like that are, you know, prison sentences. So I want everybody to email us freedom at charliekirk.com who I'm missing somebody who would the Democrats put in into the buzzsaw and

That that would be able to not win, but lower the loss and be able to mitigate the damage. Does that make sense? Tim Cain, Tim Cain, who was a previous VP, kind of an old bull in the Democrat Party. Elizabeth Warren might take it. She might never have another shot, though. She thinks she has another shot.

Bernie Sanders. Bernie Bernie Bernie would be dangerous by the way. Bernie doesn't. I think we would win against Bernie because the boomers hate Bernie but Bernie would be so interesting right. That's right. Warner Mark Warner like kind of on Chris Murphy. That's right. Hickenlooper from Colorado would be interesting. He would do it. Hickenlooper Hickenlooper has kind of that mainstream because

Here's the thing. If they feel as if they're going to lose by seven, they say, we want someone to lose by four. Maybe like J.B. Pritzker from Illinois who doesn't have much of a future. Just stick him in. Right? Who is from Illinois. Stick him in. I bet Pritzker thinks he's a future VP. Email me, but also become a member. If you guys have thoughts all the time, you have a way to now connect with me directly. It's numbers.charliekirk.com. You guys get a signed book of Right Wing Revolution. You guys can ask questions.

Any question you want to us, you have a hotline to us, to Blake, to the whole team. You are part of the Charlie Kirk family when you go to members.charliekirk.com. Somebody just emailed us, this debate was a huge plan for Democrats to be like, we need to replace him. CNN didn't hesitate to throw him under the bus. The first thing they said is replacing him. That is from Marina, who worked for Fox News before. She's our CMO at TPSA. I think that's very smart. Kamala Harris' dress...

Her entire choices, that setting that she was in, the lighting, the fact that you had Michelle Obama drop that story to Axios earlier today and throwing the dagger in Joe Biden and Jill Biden's backs, by the way. Hillary Clinton making doing the book tour, announcing that she's going public. All of the signs have changed.

been there already that this was leading the lamb to the sacrificial slaughter or essentially it's it's the old cow theory and the old cow theory is that when you need to get the cows across the river filled with uh you know snakes and piranha whatever it is it's like a you know um

European thing that they'll say, put the old cow downstream, let the piranhas go after him and bring the herd across the other way. Jack. And I, I know we said this name and I passed over it. I think Hillary would do it. Hillary doesn't think she has a future. Hillary could be a consensus candidate, right? And you know, she would give a convention speech and you, and Michigan, I will campaign in your state this time.

It has a big benefit. It would be funny. I think it would be hilarious. And by the way, I think Hillary Clinton, we would beat Hillary Clinton. Let me be perfectly clear. She's so hated, but she would do it. She would do it. Her whole life has been about, by the way, she has a new book coming out. Are they going to pull the Hilldog? Email us freedom at charliekirk.com. I have to write a book here to Amy and who just became a member. Yes. By the way, Matt Gates. By the way, by the way. Yes. Go ahead.

We were saying, so if this is a communist coup, so Lenin dies, there's a power vacuum, who rises to the highest? Well, Stalin comes up. Why? Because he's the most ruthless. He's the most brutal. He's got the most willingness to do whatever it takes to win. Who on the Democrat side is more ruthless and brutal than Hillary Rodham Clinton?

They don't exist. It's not Newsom. It's not anyone in the Obama camp. If there's anyone who doesn't matter where the bodies are buried, it's Hillary Clinton. Does anyone even have a body count within 20 of hers? But, I mean, we brought up – Bill Clinton does. I'm going through the list. A different type of body count. Jeffrey Epstein. Is it a different type? That's the question. Oh, I just got that. I saw what you did there.

There's not many people for them to dig into, but if they grab somebody, they do it. I can tell you I know who's probably kicking themselves right now.

is Kyrsten Sinema. I mean, Kyrsten Sinema... Yeah, this whole unity ticket thing, it's dead. If she would have... She was just still a Democrat. If she would have remained a Democrat and just said, I'm not running for re-election, but I'm considering running for president. A lot of people have approached me, and she just kept her options open, didn't really do anything. She could be in the moment right now where...

She's the go-to. This is really important. Can I interrupt? So this is what's important, everybody. Let's say that the masters at B say we want Michelle Obama, and she would have to want it.

They have to wait till August. They can't just usher it on high. Now, Joe Biden can choose himself, but it has to go through the performance and the convention. And all it takes is what, Tyler? One third of delegates to be like, no, we're going to make we're going to go floor fight, floor fight, 1976 style floor fight. Yeah, I mean, this is part of it, too. So Reagan Ford, when you get into all this, like there's rules and convention.

So all of the party apparatus is run by Robert's Rules of Order. You have all the stuff. You have people who are not going to agree. It's really hard to herd cats.

And it doesn't matter what party you're part of. Like, trust me, ask all our libertarian friends. Hard to hurt cats, right? You can't. It's hard to run a party. Well, they run it like a Politburo, a Democrat party. Yeah, but I mean, more so than us. I know. But still, it's hard. I mean, you still have to get everybody on board for under under one consistent candidate. And like I just said, for all the reasons that we provided, it's going to be really tough to recruit anyone that's competent.

You're either going to have somebody that's an old bull. I think it's one of two things. You have Kamala or you have an old guard, old bull type person. That's like a,

Oh my gosh, come in and just swoop in and try to save us and cross our fingers. So Douglas says this, and he's becoming a member, members.charliekirk.com, but he says, why are you guys pretending Gavin Newsom isn't the one? He will win without a doubt. You all know that. Why am I watching all this banter? Well, hold on a second. Gavin might not want it if the polling is so bad and so insurmountable. He's not going to want to go in front of a buzzsaw, right, Blake? And even if you do want it, it helps to think through the process.

No one in the White House is like one of Gavin's people. They're Biden's people. No one on the DNC is one of Gavin's people. They're Biden's people. So it's really who does Biden want? Does Biden like Gavin Newsom? He might hate Gavin Newsom. I bet a lot of Democrats hate Gavin Newsom because he so badly wants to be president. Yeah. Why does this guy get it? He didn't earn it. He didn't win any states. Yeah. He's yeah. It's he's one of the most famous Democrats. So it makes sense. His name comes up.

but if they view this as anything other than a total suicide mission, I think the attitude of other Democrats is going to be, why do you get it? Why don't I get it? Like your state is the one that everyone hates. I have to put it back up on screen. Guys, can we put the CNN poll please up on screen? CNN post debate poll, Donald Trump, 67% believe that Donald Trump won tonight. And remember,

Donald Trump was up in every poll going into tonight. Just so you understand, on electionbettingodds.com, they have Joe Biden at 22.6% of becoming president. They have Gavin Newsom at 9.9% and Kamala Harris at 4.7% and Michelle Obama at 4.5%. Said differently, Newsom, Harris, and Michelle Obama combined have a greater odds on this betting market than Joe Biden becoming president. The betting markets are saying it's going to be somebody other than Joe Biden.

So you have this other, this third category. So we'd said, you know, Kamala old guard, old bulls. And then again, if these other people are like, I'm not taking the risk, I'm not wasting my chance. And it has to be someone that's going to go out. It could be a current Senator, uh,

They just don't have that much talent. Well, we talked about Hickenlooper. So you brought up Hickenlooper, who's the current senator. Oh, you know who another one? Raphael Warnock would be interesting. Yeah, Kirsten Gillibrand. But she's too... She's awful. She's too young, I think. I don't think anyone would go for that. You'd have to pull someone like a Dick Durbin. He's terrible. Or somebody that was going to agree, like, I'm just doing this now. I'm going to step down. Like a Cortez Masto. Yeah.

Or, you know, you know, I just don't know if you, you know, Mark Kelly from from Arizona. I mean, you've got but like this is the political struggle. They don't want somebody that's going to stick around. Right. They want somebody that would be like, hey, you're in for this. You're probably going to lose. Right.

and it would have to be someone that's on their way out the door and just wanting to quit politics. I'm going to sign a book here for one of our members, members.charliekirk.com. Mark, who just became a member, you're seeing history unravel in real time, play out in real time. This will be one of the days we remember most in the entire history of our career politics. You're going to remember where you were because this just wasn't debate. This is a complete seismic change. And Blake, you're not one to get ahead of yourself. The chatter you're seeing, if you were to say you're big into statistics...

The percentage chance that Joe Biden remains the nominee until November. Give us the odds. The Blake Neff, Blackpill Blake odds. 60%. Okay, so you think Joe Biden remains 60%. A little over half. Therefore, let me ask you a different question. 40% chance they replace him. With tonight's debate performance, what now is Joe Biden's chance of getting another term if he remains? Assuming he sticks around 30%. So Donald Trump's 70% chance. I would say he was favored, he was favored, and this was a big blow. Who was favored?

I think Trump was favored already. I would have probably said 60-40, and I think he boosted himself a solid 10%, which is a ton for one night's events. And by the way, we have July 11th coming up for sentencing with Trump, and then we have the RNC, which your numbers always go up during your convention. They always go up. And so what else do they do besides throwing political opponents in jail? They have nothing else that they can do. They have DNC. They have people's forgetful memories. Maybe they just blow off the second debate. Hold on. I want just everyone to appreciate this.

Planning an event's hard, right, Tyler? We plan our events six or nine months out. If you don't know who your nominee's going to be, how the heck are you going to do conscripted programming? Conscripted programming. Oh, it changes everything. Right? Because when you know a nominee, you bring in your friends, you bring in the stories, the videos. I mean, if you don't know your nominee, you're going to be like,

And it's Tim Kaine. And we found a picture of him on Shutterstock from 1997. Someone take out the watermark. Exactly. And no one could probably pick up Tim Kaine walking through an airport, right? We learned this. Again, I learned this when I saw the governor of Iowa, Kim Reynolds, walking through...

the middle of the Iowa State Fair and nobody was saying hi to her. People can't pick it. People don't know these people. And that's a big part of winning the presidential elections. People need to know who you are. They got to be able to pick you out of a crowd. So the problem that the Democrats have too with that go with somebody that's just like a rando is that they're almost assuredly going to lose. Yes, that's right. They're almost assuredly going to lose. Can we

Can I flip this around a little bit? Can I flip this around a little bit? Because there's something that we've all sort of been saying without saying it, is that coming out of this, the reason they're terrified, the reason they're willing to do something so desperate and so ridiculous as change out their candidate this late in the game is because everyone knows that as of this moment, Biden is going to be the one

Barring some crazy act, Donald Trump is going to be the next president of the United States. He's campaigned on issues that the American people want. They want lower inflation. They want mass deportation of illegals. They want him back in office because they're sick and tired of Joe Biden. They've seen the best that you have to offer, and they're done with it. Trump is coming back.

He's coming back, and no matter what they've tried, they can't stop it from happening. Oh, they're so scared. The freakout is real. By the way, I hope the Secret Service protection is legit on him. Yes, for sure. I want to get two paid comments because people made them. So we have Dhammies or Dammies.

Sorry if I say that wrong. I think we said that one. Did we say that one? The bearded bike one? Okay. We have two of them. And then he suggested Hakeem Jeffries could maybe be the candidate. Did we get that? Yeah. No, Hakeem. He's got too much to lose. That would be interesting, but he may just want to be speaker. By the way, this is what you know. Bob Casey tonight texted a guy on CNN and says, I don't think I can win in Pennsylvania with this debate performance.

This now has downstream. You're looking at potential. Casey said that? Yes. You potentially Senator Kerry Lake. You're looking at potential Senator Hovda, Senator Sam Brown. I mean, this is so bad that when your party collapses and disintegrates, it is dog eat dog all the way down. Yeah, we could see a Eric Hovde in Wisconsin out of this.

Yes. I mean, Tammy Duckworth is Tammy Baldwin. Baldwin. Sorry. Duckworth is only Tammy. Sorry. Tammy Baldwin. I was just looking at Duckworth. Tammy Baldwin is a terrible, terrible candidate. Won't even leave her basement. She's out hiding from the entire general public. Hovde is self self-funding. Nobody wanted to basically run for Senate in Wisconsin. And Wisconsin is on the map for Trump to win. And after today, you know, Trump's got a really solid shot across the blue wall.

So we don't want to be again. Tonight is about enjoying and analyzing. Tomorrow we go to work. Well, you got to go to work, right? You got to plan ahead and fight the good fight. But this is a good reason why. Breaking news. What do we have here? By the way, I'm signing more books. I got this one. I just signed members. Charlie Kirk dot com to grant. And Parker, I'm watching you from Rav. I'm signing a book. And whoever you want. Thank you guys for taking us. Blake, we have a statement from the Biden Harris campaign chair, General Malley Dillon.

Tonight, President Biden presented a positive and winning vision for the future of America, one in which every American has a fair shot at the American dream, where every one of our rights are protected, and where our president fights to strengthen our democracy, not to tear it down.

On the other side of the stage was Donald Trump, who offered a dark and backwards window into what America will look like if he steps foot back in the White House. A country where women are forced to beg for the health care they need to stay alive. A country that puts the interests of billionaires over working people. And a former president who not once, not twice,

but three times failed to promise he would accept the results of a free and fair election this November. He was really good on that question. Trump's performance tonight reminded the American people why they fired him four years ago and reinforced how high the stakes are this November for the future of our country. I don't think Biden's just going to step aside.

This is so again, we have an email from a member here, members dot Charlie Kirk dot com. They say they think that this is all a shtick. Biden knows that he's done that. It wasn't necessarily like throwing it, but he is ready to hand it off, basically. Maybe. And I just have to write this one members dot Charlie Kirk dot com to Lauren. So, yeah. But, Jack, what is your opinion on that Biden statement?

I mean, this is delusional. It's great for us. This is a group of people who refuse to walk. They haven't realized that they've hit rock bottom yet. They say that addicts need to hit rock bottom before it is that they can get out of there. And so for them, rock bottom will be on the evening of November 5th, 2024, when the polls results...

of not the opinion polls, but the real polls come in and Donald J. Trump destroys the blue wall. When Donald J. Trump flips the rust belt, when Donald J. Trump takes the sunbelt and every single one of them realize that no, it wasn't just people in the media who didn't like you, Joe. No, it wasn't just Republican spin, Joe. It was the truth. It was the truth all along that you suck,

that your candidate sucks, that he's completely shot. Whatever kind of person he was before is completely gone. And Donald J. Trump will be the next president of the United States. One second, guys. I want to play this piece of tape here. Oh, by the way, 84% of people say that they disapproved of Joe Biden's

performance there. Okay, let's go to this is Senator Care McCaskill who knows something about running even though she knows she's going to lose when she continued to run in the 2018 midterms when Josh Hawley displaced her from power. This is Senator Claire McCaskill very honest about Joe Biden's take. I'm going to keep on signing books as you listen to this. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Cut 152. My job now is to be really honest. Joe Biden had one thing he had to do tonight and he didn't do it.

He had one thing he had to accomplish, and that was reassure America that he was up to the job at his age. And he failed at that tonight. Now, does that mean that my phone blowing up with senators and campaign operatives and donors, big donors from all over the country, does that mean that Joe Biden is not going to be the candidate? I don't know that.

I think we'll know a lot more in a few weeks how this plays out. You know, you have to ask, how did we get here? How did we get to the point that we're spending a whole lot of time talking about the vice president tonight instead of talking about the president? And I don't know how the rest of this story is written. I don't know if things can be done to fix this.

I mean, that's as bad as it gets. She spent a whole minute. You see, usual spin is, look, started, didn't start great, but let's get to the issues. Let's go to one, two, three, four. That's how I would do it, right? Say, okay, enough chatter about this. He's stronger on the issues. Not as crisp. He's been too busy running the country. Like, that's how you'd spin it, right? Oh, sorry, he's been too busy running the country to prepare for debates all day long. And, you know, Donald Trump's had a lot of time on his hands being in a courtroom or something smart. This is like a, this is a lamentation, Blake. It was, it was almost like she just kept going on and on and on.

You know what I think would be a fun thought exercise? What's that? If the election were held tomorrow, what would the electoral map be? Was it a fair and free election without really voting? Free and fair election, and we just – One day, one vote. One day, one vote, no ballot chase. I mean, we win for it. Let's imagine all the early votes that they would normally get, but they're all voting tomorrow in some encapsulation of the events that occurred tonight. I think if it's fair and free and no widespread fraud, which we've seen, I think that we win.

For sure, but could we flip Minnesota? I have no idea. I don't want to speculate that. I think potentially. Fair, fair, fair. I want to say, though, one thing. Do we have more tapes from the actual debate? Because we've been so... Just, guys, send me the sheet. Donald Trump did phenomenal with one specific group of voters. Boomers.

He was great on Social Security. He was great on stability. The Afghanistan thing. Jack, we were on Afghanistan, weren't we? Afghanistan, Afghanistan. Donald Trump brought it up four times. You didn't like it? No, let me make a point with the boomers, okay?

Every boomer watching this, they liked Trump. They liked him, and here's the reason why. They looked at him and they said, okay, how old is Donald Trump? 78. 78. So they immediately compared him to every 78-year-old friend that they have. And they said, is Donald Trump significantly more competent, well-handled, understands the issues, I trust him more than my other 78-year-old friends? Yes.

And the answer across the board, if you're answering that question honestly, is yes, he appears much younger and sharper than my other 78-year-old friends. I totally agree. And what are the attack factors that Joe Biden has been doing? Social security. So let's go to cut 105. This is Trump on social security. And I...

He was brilliant. He connected the border to Social Security. He connected his winning issue. Inflation and border are Donald Trump's sweet spots, and he brought these fringe issues back into his sweet spots. I don't think people understand the brilliance that he pulled off there. Oh, you want to talk about child care? They're raping women all the time. Oh, you want to talk about climate change? Do you know the border is wide open? Oh, you want to talk about Israel-Gaza? Why the heck do we have people from Tajikistan coming across the border? Cut 105. But Social Security...

He's destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they're putting them onto Social Security. They're putting them onto Medicare, Medicaid. They're putting them in our hospitals. They're taking the place of our citizens there. What they're doing to the VA, to our veterans is unbelievable. Our veterans are living in the street and these people are living in luxury hotels. He doesn't know what he's doing. And it's really coming back. I've never seen such anger in our country before.

I thought that was a great answer. I mean, because the Social Security thing, he immediately connects it to immigration and the border. I want to play another piece of tape here, though, and then I want to have, again, we've been so ahead on the Gretchen Whitmer thing, Jack. Have we not? Jack, have I not been playing the Gretchen Whitmer guitar for a couple weeks? I said it from Detroit.

Look, Michael, Michael Luo, the editor of The New Yorker, just said, oh, I'm posting this profile we just did of Gretchen Whitmer in case anyone wants to read. And people are now starting to share that. So not only are the knives out, of course, the search is already underway. And you've got the editor of The New Yorker is suddenly starting to say Gretchen Whitmer, thinking about Michigan, thinking about the Rust Belt. And

Funny enough, I seem to remember there's a certain organization that just held a massive event in Gretchen Whitmer's own backyard. And understand, they thought that the right, the American right in June of 2024 would never be more fissured and fractured and divided. In reality, we have never been more united in the last couple of years. Even people that don't like Trump are like, fine, just put him back in. You know, it's like it's one way to get rid of them is make them president again. Right. They're like, whatever. Fine. Like they just kind of roll their eyes.

And I'm not kidding. And so one of our members has this point, members.charliekirk.com, was how Donald Trump was able to navigate this particular question. I'm trying to find it. This right here. I think this was all of a sudden when...

This was at when I want to repeat something I said earlier, NFL football games. The viewership goes up as the game progresses, especially if the game is close presidential debates. Viewership goes down like dramatically after 20 minutes. People lose interest because people are not politics obsessed. They want to see the visual. They want to get the vibe. They want to get the attitude. I'm done. I'm going to go watch. I don't know. Better call Saul on Netflix or whatever people watch. And so this was at the beginning of,

So important. Donald Trump's handling of this was boomer victory. And it shows Joe Biden has no business being president. Play cut 97. Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID. Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with. Look, if.

We finally beat Medicare. Thank you, President Biden. President Trump? He was right. He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death. That right there was in the window where the viewership was the highest.

And that was the perfect case of how he didn't need the whole, you know, the mics being cut off didn't stop him from being effective. Do not interrupt your enemy while they're destroying himself. You can imagine Trump, he's like, oh, keep going. By the way, he was talking about something and we did beat Medicare. It was a full-on glitch. You want to get to two of our... I just want to hit these because these people did pay. So Scott AJR, he asked, you probably know the answer to this, Tyler. What happens to the Ohio ballot in November with the changes they made recently? Do you know...

I'm not sure exactly what... What changes? Did they make changes? Are they just talking about whether they weren't going to keep Biden on the ballot? Well, they changed it because, remember, Biden screwed up and wasn't going to be on the ballot, and the Republicans helped get him on the ballot. Because we think it'll help us to have Biden on the ballot. It'll help even more now. And then the second one, this is easier to answer from NRA7. Why did they go through with Biden at all?

Well, that's the question of the night, truly. That's the $6 trillion question. Yeah. They could have done this back in January, February, January. They could have done it right before Iowa. To be honest, I think there's one reason. Jill Biden.

I think Jill Biden built a fortress around him. And Jack, I want your theory on this. I think that she dug in similar to Woodrow Wilson's wife and was like, you know, allied with Ron Klain. We have full control of the federal government. He's not as bad as you say he is. We're going to raise a bunch of money. Trump will implode. Indictments are coming. Trust the process. We have a superior apparatus and machine. I think Jill Biden was the reason. And she was like, we have power. Why would we give it up?

Joe is kind of probably indifferent. Like, oh, I guess we could just, you know, eat ice cream for the rest of our life in Delaware. The people around Joe Biden...

Joe refused to give up power and pride goeth before the fall. What a beautiful end to pride. You know, it also, I think their attitude was like, we beat him in 2020 and you guys didn't beat him. Why can you judge us? And then the midterms gave them another lease on life. I think if the red wave we wanted had happened in 22, I bet we would be against a different candidate right now. Yeah, they did okay. And they could say, old Joe's got it. You know, that is a phenomenal point.

The Lord always having a plan. If we end up winning in November, a subpar performance in November of 2022 might have kept Joe Biden alive.

Yeah. Well, not well, maybe physically alive, politically speaking. Right. Because they say, look, we can win on row. We haven't won anything yet. So you're saying this Kevin McCarthy drafted this all out. Yeah. Yeah. This is going exactly as planned. I was going to lose that. So here's Donald Trump. Here's the CNN flash poll after tonight. After watching tonight, would you consider voting for only Trump, only Biden, both or neither?

48% only Trump, 40% only Biden. 11% neither. So Cornell, West, Stein, RFK, 2% both. So essentially, Donald Trump, the margin of error is plus or minus five and a half points. That's an eight-point win of translating the debate into votes. If you believe that poll, it's Trump is up six, even if Biden wins every undecided voter between Trump and Biden. And that doesn't count...

The MAGA enthusiasm that's hard to track and the low prop voters. So, so Jack president Jill Biden, I, they should blame her. I think she built a castle of the white house and was like, we beat them once we can chase balance. I've been,

I've been saying this for two full years now on Human Events Daily, practically since episode one, numero uno of the show, that it's been Jill Biden. It was at the time Ron Klain. It is now Jeff Zents.

It was Tony Blinken. It was people like Gary Gensler. It was people like Victoria Newland. These were the people running the administration, Team B. And Jen Psaki, when Jen Psaki was there.

So these were the people who were actually calling the shots. Joe Biden's role was to sort of be the guy on TV every once in a while, give a perfunctory speech, sort of show up and be there, but not actually make any of decisions or do much of anything. Lloyd Austin nominally at the military. And obviously we know Merrick Garland and Chris Wray at DOJ and FBI, respectively. And so, and Mayorkas, I mean, he just said open the border. He doesn't really care about any of that.

So it's really been, look, this is the empire, the empire. This tonight was the emperor has no clothes. Jill Biden, clearly the one in charge. Jill Biden, who has always been, for anyone who knows, I can't get over this because it was yesterday that,

interviewed London Roberts, and I briefly, very briefly got to say hi to Navy Joe. It was clearly Jill Biden who's driving the train of non-recognition for that granddaughter that tells you everything you need to know about how the Biden family is run, about how their relationship is.

I knew these guys when they hung out back in Philadelphia, when he was the vice president. And then before then, when he claimed that he was, "Oh, I'm the third senator from Pennsylvania. I'm the third senator from Pennsylvania. I take the train on a cell every day down to DC. And then I come home to my family." He was hanging out at the University of Pennsylvania all the time. Jill Biden was there. She was rocking and rolling. And Joe Biden was her arm candy at every single one of those events. And I know, 'cause I was there too in Philadelphia, Jill. I was there watching you from across the room.

We know that it's been you pushing and prodding him along all the time. But at the end of the day, Jill, at the end of the day, you're just a Jersey girl. You're just a Jersey girl whose greatest goal in life was to die in New Jersey. And now you found your way into the White House and you have no idea what you're doing. This is a national security nightmare that we are all living through. And it's your fault. Speaking of which, here's the true president talking about how well Joe did tonight. Play cut 148.

You heard Joe's heart tonight on the debate stage. He wakes up every morning thinking about how he can make the lives of Americans better. He's the president we need, the president you deserve.

well that was a lie he wakes up every day thinking imagine imagine right now you're some poor ukrainian kid who's been pressed into service and you're sitting in some muddy ditch right now with russian artillery and russian drones raining down on you and then you you happen to catch if you've got you know some kind of wi-fi or whatever some some image of oh these are the americans and and they promised to help us and let's just see them on tv

And you see this and you say, wait a minute, these are the guys who have our back. We're done. We're done. We're totally done for. And President Trump, at least, actually talked about the human toll of the Ukraine war, which Joe Biden has been prolonging. And Joe Biden, I keep coming back to this, Joe Biden promised he would prolong this war, even if it meant going into World War III. Joe Biden actually promised that tonight.

Everybody email us freedom at charliekirk.com and become a member. I'm signing your books right now. Members.charliekirk.com. That is members.charliekirk.com. Blake, what is the chatter that you are seeing amongst the intelligentsia? Uh,

Certainly the ones I am talking to, the big debate is, can they actually force Joe Biden out? They all think they probably should, but can they actually do it? And a lot of people, they're going... There was initially, the initial response was, oh man, he's done. And then people catch their breath over the next hour while we've been on the air here. And they've been saying, you know, Biden could just say no. You see that rally, you see Jill leading him around. And if...

Joe and Jill say they're going to stick around. Nobody can really like they can't like point a gun at them and make them leave. And so that was kind of the initial response. But certainly all the jokes, all the memes, everyone's responses, huge Trump victory, huge disaster for the Democrats. People who are liberals are freaking out. People who are conservatives are celebrating. People who are in the middle are moving towards Trump even faster than they were before.

Members.CharlieKirk.com. I got to name some of these folks here that are getting books. Thomas gets a book here. Thomas, that is thank you for being a member. And when you are a member, you also get exclusive content. You guys can communicate with us directly without any intermediary. It is Members.CharlieKirk.com. That is Members.CharlieKirk.

I'm going to keep on signing books here tonight as we continue to go. Boy, the spin continues for the Democrat Party or they're trying to. Charlie, can I? Yeah, go ahead, Jack. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, this is a question for Charlie, because you mentioned something before in passing, and I think it's important. I want to hear you expound on it. That.

You said the right has never been more united. What did you mean by that? And how how was it that Trump was able to accomplish? I think part of it is just because of the threat of the woke and the left. I think that Trump being able to consolidate the primary early and decisively shut up a lot of naysayers and even people that hate Trump. If you get them in private conversations, they're like, yo, 2020 was effed up.

You know what I mean? Like they like that's the vibe that I get from even people that don't like Trump. They're like, yeah, 2020 was not good. So there is kind of this tacit this guy earns and has deserved a legit chance to not be sideswiped to try to get another term in the Oval Office. And so, yeah, by the way, Joe Biden just visited a Waffle House and he says, I think we did well. It's hard to debate a liar.

Look at the faces around him. Look at the faces. Oh my goodness. Everyone knows. These people are like... Everyone knows. They're not even looking at him. They're like... Oh, you gotta get this clip. Look at the body language. Oh yeah. Just look at the body language. This woman is kind of like... Who does this guy think he is? She's trying to like... Oh, this is bad. Avoid him? No.

By the way, is that Kareem Jean-Pierre's first time in a Waffle House? Is that KJP? Yeah, that's KJP. Oh, man. She's like trying to gingerly help him through. Like, these are waffles, Joe. You eat them. Remember, Joe? Waffles. And they're just... Look at how they're just gingerly handling him. But you could tell this was all pre-planned. And now she's... This is...

Look at the hand on the back. Look at the hand on the back. Get this clip up. This was preplanned by them. They're like, we're going to show the world that not only can he do a debate, but he could do a post-debate event and also go to Waffle House. He looks so much older even than six months ago. Oh, no, he's fading. Anyone who's known a person who's gotten older and has started to lose it, you know how fast it can suddenly hit you. Look at this video. It's hitting Biden.

Yes. Oh, look at the article. Here it is. Here is the race lady. Race lady and Chris Hayes or Rachel Maddow. I get them both confused. Play cut 154. New York Times pointed out he made a lie 26 times. Big lies. You can't tell. Are you suffering from a cold? Your campaign comes out your shit? I'm not a cool person. I'm here to talk to you. We've got some people squeezing me hard. Great job. Great job.

Great job! Louisiana. Make poverty free for us.

what is going on in this video

All right, we're good. We can cut that. By the way, can we appreciate that Donald Trump called Joe Biden a Palestinian? Yeah. And he's like, by the way, we knock on wood where we can find wood. It's like his one-liners are just so... He's a legitimately hilarious politician. Funniest man to ever live. That's what I said. Repeat that, Patriot Takes. So, yeah, that's right. By the way, they're in a...

state of denial right now and how they consolidate this we're going to see there's going to be angry people no matter what um no matter what happens here so i got to keep on signing books here let's get to another piece of tape here from the actual debate uh which did you think that after the debate anybody think that we'd be playing debate coverage more than the debate itself

Did anyone have that on your bingo card for tonight? No. That we'd be like playing the fallout and the coverage. And Jack's instincts, I got to give Jack credit. I'm glad we didn't take it live. But Jack's instincts were 100% right. Okay, I want to go here. I thought Trump was excellent on the Russian-Ukrainian stuff. This is 113. Every time Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away $60 billion. He's the greatest salesman ever. Play cut 113.

This is a war that never should have started. If we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along. He's given $200 billion now or more to Ukraine. He's given $200 billion. That's a lot of money. I don't think there's ever been anything like it. Every time that Zelensky comes to this country, he walks away with $60 billion. He's the greatest salesman ever. Jack, I thought on all the foreign policy stuff, Afghanistan, Russia, Ukraine, Trump was excellent. Sharp.

He played it just right because there's a lot of people who say we don't like the Ukraine war. We don't agree with what Russia did. But at the same time, we feel like this thing is dragged on. Ukraine has fought a noble fight, but we want to find a way to wind this thing down. But also, more importantly, why are we undersigning and underwriting everything there? I think Trump was...

in the same way he was able to do, by the way, on Roe v. Wade or the aftermath of the loss of Roe v. Wade, that he was able to balance all of those competing sides, the political, the financial, maybe not financial, but the political at least, and the emotional and the moral to say, I think at this point it's time to stop the killing, which had echoes of

of what he talked about in 2015 with ending the global war on terror and being the first Republican to stand in a Republican environment and take the booze of saying George W. Bush lied about Iraq. That moment was something that really created the MAGA movement, showed that the MAGA movement is something that's

pro-America, is anti-war, and that's something that Trump is absolutely consistent on. Even if you go back to interviews far before he was running for office or even had ideas or designs of running for office, he always talked this way. And so coming up, he uses that same lens when it comes to

Israel-Gaza. He's that same lens when it comes to Iran. He's that same lens when it comes. And by the way, has the record on North Korea. That's why it's kind of silly to say Donald Trump is going to get us into World War Three because he just was president. And if I remember correctly, things were a lot better on the world stage than they are now. The Mediate has an article which is look and sounds ancient. Biden's appearance roasted minutes into CNN debate with Trump. They didn't give him the State of the Union drugs.

They didn't give the State of the Union drugs. He didn't come out swinging. They screwed up the chemistry, Blake. Yeah, or maybe there's limits to what chemistry can accomplish. Sometimes we have to accept. Biohackers. There's only so far we can do. People want to live forever. They can't live forever, and Joe Biden is proving it. All right, this is...

Donald Trump saying, I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows either. Beautiful. These kind of little nudges reminding the audience that they're seeing. And if there is one organization that the Biden campaign can blame for the fact that they lost the debate 67-33, which is mercy rules, is CNN.

CNN going double set, double shot, not single shot, hurt Joe Biden. I'm telling you from an aesthetic standpoint, when Donald Trump was talking, you were looking more at Joe Biden than at Donald Trump. OK, let's go to 116 on the total initiative relative to what we can do with more border patrol and more asylum officers.

President Trump? I really don't know what he said at the end of this. I don't think he knows what he said either. Look, we had the safest border in the history of our country. All he had to do was leave it. All he had to do was leave it.

That's beautiful, man. That was the nicest way he could have said it. And that was one of our keys to the debate ahead of time was he can't attack him too fervently. It was so gentle. It was so like, I really don't know what this guy's talking about. I don't know what he's saying. And I was like, you have to address crazy, right? Like you have to like when you ignore crazy, you look crazy.

But you don't want to look like you're just mean, which is what they always say. And he didn't play into that. The only time Trump almost got off of vibe was about his trial and the golf game. And the 19 generals, the suckers and losers thing. Yeah. We took on him yellow. When he gets in the specifics, that was way, that was way. In my opinion, that was only time when it was like, I don't think it was a loss. It was always briefly. He, and then he got back on. He brought it back later. Yeah. I want to respond to something 30 minutes ago. Well,

What's the one we mentioned most of the we mentioned how there's a lot of clips the night of and you get the vibe and then there's a few clips a week later and maybe one clip from a debate. I think that's the correct way. Do you think that's the video that. Well, first of all, remember, people will not remember details of the debate. They'll remember how they felt. And they because of the spin at the correct spin after and the reality of it, people will remember. Holy crow. Biden is not capable of running this country.

And that actually supersedes policy. Now, Trump is better on policy and now Trump is better on the person, which he's never better on the person, right? They might be like, okay, Trump is a jerk. Honestly, you know, I got some texts from people that are like, honestly, Trump deserves points for self-control. He's better than I thought he would be. Like you said that, right? Yeah. Because you could see he was holding back and holding back and holding back and kind of holding back. And so, look, I'll say this, that

The what what is the one that lives forever? I think that when he says that we're going to beat Medicare or something or that. Yeah, that really confused one. Like you'll get you might even just get a super cut version where it's that. And I don't know what he was saying. Oh, the memers are going to have some Biden walking out really slowly. And then that like that first 10 seconds of him talking where you realize. And the cover of CNN, Biden's poor showing and Trump's repeated falsehoods.

Trump's quip on that would, by the way, the Medicare, it was so fast and it, it, that contrasted his sharpness with, yeah, he beat Medicare, beat it to death. It, it almost sounded like something from a Hollywood movie script, but he did that live.

He did that immediately. He spun it right around. He caught the gap. He was able to respond, send it right back to him in a way that with Biden up there and trying to make this contrast on age. I'm sorry. You can see that. You can see that in the quickness of his replies. You can see that in his high verbal IQ. You can see that in the skills that he clearly demonstrated on stage. And he did so, as you say, without being nasty.

Yeah, and it's just, I don't think, it's hard to, this performance is so bad, you must understand, they think Trump is Hitler. For them to say that somebody who went up against Hitler did poorly, it's even worse than they're telling you, is what I'm saying. It was even worse. Well, that's their new thing, right? Their new thing, I think, their new spin that we're going to see next week is, what can we cook up? I think their new spin is, Trump is such a mastermind that he's manipulating you like a true fascist leader.

Oh, they're going to dig in on some of this. That's going to be their entire, I think, approach this next week is that, you know, you're getting mind controlled by MAGA. You're getting MAGA mind controlled. So I want to just end with, we're going to wrap in a second here. Members.CharlieKirk.com. I'm still going to sign a couple more books here. Tyler, what then is, we've enjoyed it.

Now, what does the work look like? We have an opportunity to increase voter registration margins to more ballot chasers. Now should be the time where we go harder than ever before. Right, Tyler? Victory is more likely, but that only if we do the work. Yeah. And look, and what comes with this? I mean, we I've been seeing this everywhere. And what concerns me is that we have people that are going to do one of two things coming out of this one. They're both bad. One, they're going to focus on all the wrong things.

I mean, we're still in states that have Democrats who are going to try to cover themselves in every way possible because they have been playing this dangerous game of Russian roulette where they've been trying to thump political enemies. So you have to realize we're still playing against extraordinarily evil people.

Regardless of if Joe Biden wins or loses, you still have evil people in Michigan. You still have really evil people in Nevada and Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania. So you've got to realize that. Number two is you're going to have people that are going to sit back and get lazy. They're going to go, oh, my gosh, this thing is in the bag. Which we will not allow to happen. And that's part of our role. There's a happy medium here, right? Which is don't wear yourself out fighting the evil people who we have eyes on.

The one thing that they don't want you to do is to get more people out to vote. How do we know this? What just happened to Pennsylvania? Yes. I mean, they're literally running suppression. Advertisement running suppression as it say Joe or president Trump doesn't want you to vote early. Why would they do that? If it didn't work, why would they spend thousands, tens of thousands of dollars on suppression advertising, potentially millions. If it didn't work, why would they put $50 million worth of bodies and ballot chasers in your home state? If it didn't work,

It is a big piece of the manipulation is they're manipulating low, what we call low IQ, low information, information voters is what Rush used to call them. Low propensity voters, people who just really don't even care about voting.

It's members.charliekirk.com. And keep on signing a couple more books here. Jack, closing thoughts here as we bring this triumphant night to a conclusion and we go through the marching orders of how we now use this as an accelerant to take back our country in November, take back the White House, take back the Senate. It is a movement versus a machine. Jack.

Look, Charlie, people need to understand that this is going to be the Democrats off the leash. They're going to let John one, Rashawn off the leash. They're going to let Merrick Arland off the leash. They're going to let Jack Smith off the leash. Matt Graves, the U.S. attorney. They know that it's six months or by the way, they're all going to be on the list. And Andrew McCabe is up there on CNN whining and complaining. And he's telling the truth because he knows that justice is finally coming for them and the things that they've done to the American people.

So you're going to see that number one, you're going to see by the immense pressure on one Mershon to put Trump behind bars or some kind of house arrest thing. That's definitely going to happen now on July 11th. And so this is what people must prepare for and why you have to steal yourselves for the fight to come. That being said.

You also have to look, by the way, and I've been saying this all night, escalation on the world front. And unfortunately, the number one candidate for that is Russia. Number two, possibly, I would say, is Taiwan. Look for Biden to try to attempt some... By the way, and we just saw...

America, this was earlier before the debate came up, but breaking news from human events, that we have the story up that Biden is now launching an American evacuation from Lebanon because it looks like Israel Hezbollah is about to kick off there. So LH, Lebanese Hezbollah, and Israel, U.S. troops getting involved. Again, you're going to be in a situation where they feel so desperate that they have to push some kind of Hail Mary play, and that

almost certainly, to my mind, will include military activity against one of our adversaries. Blake, final thoughts? It was a good night. I would enjoy it. I would remember the winning attitude is you use successes as a drive to seek out more successes. Yes, that's right, as an accelerant. Yep.

winners work harder because they realize the amount of victory that is now attainable because of what happened tonight. It was an awful night for Joe Biden across the board. It was a great night for us. But hey, the empire is going to strike back. The machine is not done. They are not going to give the keys to the White House.

just because one guy had a bad debate. You guys can support this program directly. It's members.charliekirk.com. We've been streaming for like four or five hours. We did three hours earlier today. We're the hardest working team out there. You guys can communicate with us directly. You get a signed book personalized to you at members.charliekirk.com. That is members.charliekirk.com. And Daisy, we have this whole...

pile of books that we're going to send out that people can't look at that pile of personalized books that we have for you guys. It's members.charliekirk.com. You guys can listen to all of our content advertiser free, including content that is only found by being a member. So it's members.charliekirk.com.

We continue. We're going to be up early tomorrow, broadcasting, live streaming at our usual time. Tonight was a victory, but it's not the big one. It is a step forward. Those of you that had Donald Trump's back, you are part of the movement, and we are up against the machine. And the movement must be successful this November. It's going to require all of us together to win. Enjoy tonight, and tomorrow we get back to work. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.