Pop Culture Power Hour: Joe Burrow's Surprise Houseguest, Jay-Z's Abuse Allegations, Duke Lacrosse Accuser Recants
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I am joined this hour by resident talents, Blake Neff and Daisy Phelps, our resident culture expert, pop culture expert, I would say. Yeah, that's you. You're also our resident Swifty. We try not to judge her too harshly for that. Andrew, I've got to say, she was totally correct yesterday.

on Taylor Swift's impact on the presidential election. There was a lot of stuff where people were thinking Taylor Swift is their secret weapon. They have this whole plan for her to make it Kamala. And Daisy just said she's going to do some like one off endorsement and it's not going to matter and she's not going to talk about it again. And she was right. And that she did it then like second the debate ended. So then no one talked about it. It wasn't in the news at all. Yeah, I've got to give her credit where credit's due. She that she nailed that one.

I don't feel as obligated to give her credit, but I will say I actually had this. I had the same instinct. I feel like the blowback on Taylor Swift in 2020 was, um,

I would say pretty harsh from half the country. And therefore she wanted to find a way to sort of thread the needle, do what she felt like she'd check the box and move on. And you were right, Daisy. You were right. Thank you. All right. So, but that is not where we're starting. If anywhere, we're starting on the other pop culture icon, female singer, more, more, more with the Beyonce side, because she,

some massive massive i would say revelations but allegations have come out that involving jay-z now so we all know about what's going on with puff daddy all right uh p diddy is diddy we use the puff anymore has he used sean i don combs i've never heard anyone refer to him as that like it's only diddy i don't know if it's like a generational thing or what i think it's

obsolete. I think Andrew might be showing his generation here. Yes, I am. I'm very millennial in this conversation. So here's but I was I was planning on going down the list. I actually think that the waterfall of names is a pretty funny thing. I mean, you've got something similar with with who am I thinking of?

We'll skip that, I guess. But there's name. See, this is how bad I am at pop culture, which is why you're here, Daisy. So here's the point. Oh, it's like Lion, right? What's the guy's name? I'm really lost now. You have Blake who doesn't know anything about pop culture and me who wasn't conscious for any pop culture until like 2010. So...

So Snoop Dogg, Snoop Lion, there was like stuff like anyways. My only knowledge of Snoop Dogg is when he like came back for his like second or third career with Martha Stewart and now does all those like random collabs with her. I know. He's so like establishment and brand vibe now. He's doing like this guy who was literally in gangs. Anyways, that's another story. So, okay. So Diddy...

A very high profile case against him, freak offs. He was recording people doing terrible things, inviting them. Underage women have come out and sued him. Allegations of rape, very disturbing things. Now, which is interesting because there's a lawyer named Tony Busby who's been on this show when he was defending Ken Paxton from impeachment in Texas.

He is now representing many of these accusers, and he sent a letter that I believe we have a copy of, 135. Actually, he sent a letter making these allegations, and then Jay-Z replied back with this. This is a wild letter that Jay-Z wrote back. Daisy, tell us more about this letter. I mean, it seems like he wrote it. Yeah, it's...

Like he to write this letter, you almost think someone like has to be innocent because it's going to like this is even worse if it comes out that this stuff is true. And he wrote this entire letter. One weird thing I did find about this letter is that he writes that he is just a young man from the Bronx or from from Brooklyn, from the project out of Brooklyn. Jay-Z is like almost 60. So I don't know why he's referring to himself as a as a young man. But basically he.

Diddy was already in this lawsuit from Busby with a 13-year-old girl who said she was raped in 2000 at an after party, a VMA after party. And there was a male celebrity and an unnamed celebrity, female celebrity there. And then they named the male celebrity as Jay-Z, which Jay-Z and Beyonce are very publicly friends with Diddy. They've always been friends with Diddy.

And so people have been like talking about their connection with Diddy ever since this grand jury indictment stuff came down on Diddy. He was arrested, everything like that. And this was the first person that was actually named, which Tony Busby did say a couple of weeks ago when Diddy was first arrested. He said like names will be coming out. It's people that you would have never expected. Everyone is involved in this. And I think that people in just like everyone online is

kind of saw it as like an Epstein thing. Like everyone's really excited to get the list, but no one actually believes that we're going to get the list. It's just one of those things that people, it's going to live on in conspiracy theories. And then we got this Jay-Z name and people were like, oh my gosh, we might actually be getting more names. And Tony Busby says that he's not back.

backing down from this he's going to keep naming names um but jay-z jay-z's letter is very very intense he like released it on his business brand instagram account and he's he's very adamant that he did not do this and he calls out tony busby and says like you're a marine you're supposed to know what honor is and you messed with the wrong person and tony busby said that he's not backing down and this is still an ongoing case like

Yeah, Blake, he makes a point in this letter where he says, if you believe all this stuff is true, why don't you, why is this not a criminal case? Which I actually thought was an interesting point. He said, you know, if you believe that a minor is getting raped and you say I did it, why are you, why is this a civil case? Explain that. Well, so keep in mind, it is a lower burden of proof. And a lot of these cases, they are

old and hearsay. And this will just be me controversial. These sorts of sorted cases, they do get a lot of their mileage out of just how incredibly scandalous it is. And let's be honest, a lot of the time people are, they're looking for a payout. They're looking for some way. Yeah, they're looking for a settlement. And that doesn't necessarily mean it didn't happen. But I think there are certainly plenty of cases where

where they play up minor behavior to make it seem much more severe or they invent stuff out of whole cloth and i'm just going to be controversial and say i think people have learned the script at this point where if you come forward at the right time because he's already someone who's vulnerable because the diddy thing is happening there's a bit of a feeding frenzy so i mean it

These allegations, what year did they happen in? 2000. 2000. That is 24 years ago. That's before everyone has a smartphone in their pocket. That's before there's cameras showing where everyone is at all times. So you could very plausibly... You can basically just make whatever allegation you want. And could it ever be proven? I don't think so. This girl is still remaining anonymous. She goes by Jane Doe in the lawsuit. So they're...

I don't know. There's a lot that goes into the Beyonce. I mean, Diddy's stuff is very provable. Everyone knows he's a horrible person. So I think it does play into the whole Me Too thing. There's an element of a girl can say this. And Jay-Z, who has a net worth of like $2.5 billion or something like that, could be like, okay, I'll give you a million dollars. That's without even other possibilities. Sometimes people are just nuts. There's a person I know who was...

basically being... It didn't even end up getting filed, but they were, like, privately accused by someone. And it seemed like there were all these signs. Oh, this would be... This, like, could be real. This person, like, has, you know, is a respected member of the community. And, like, it just turned out the person was actually mentally... Had, like, mental problems. And, like, they were just targeting a famous person. Well, and, I mean, we've seen... We had...

I think we have that guy on the show, but we've seen this ruin people's lives. Yes. That Jay-Z wouldn't have as big of an impact as it would have on a C-list celebrity. This is their entire reputation, but...

I don't know. There's like, I feel like there's equal opportunity. The most interesting aspect of this that we haven't hit on yet is it's caused people to finally ask like, wait, how did Jay-Z actually meet Beyonce? Because now people are saying, were they, were they a couple when she was 16 instead of when she was 19? I have seen this, but there's a lot there. Well, yeah, put up 142, the B roll there. This is like, so Beyonce was born in 1981 and Jay-Z was born in 19,

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So we just finished talking about Jay-Z and Diddy. Jay-Z is married to Beyonce. Beyonce is also close with Diddy. When Diddy got arrested, it started this whole firestorm on the internet, TikTok, X, Instagram, that basically people on the internet are believing that Jay-Z and Beyonce have killed people. How many people?

There's three that are specific. That's a lot of people. So one of these people is Michael Jackson. Not that they've like specifically killed them, but that there is some sort of high up power ring in Hollywood. People have always been discussing this and that it has had some sort of hand in their deaths. So Michael Jackson. I do want to hear the rest. I just want to make very clear. These are allegations. These are Internet rumors. Continue. People on the Internet are believing this.

People on the internet have long believed there's like a Hollywood power ring that controls things. It's all very conspiratorial. And after the Diddy stuff, people started to put together the deaths of Michael Jackson, Aaliyah, who I don't know who that is, but at one point was very famous, and Lisa Lopez, also known as Left Eye. Andrew, do you know who that is? Blake doesn't know who that is. I don't know who that is, but she was a famous singer.

From TLC. You were saying they all have the same birthday? Yeah, so... That's part of the... Well, so Jay-Z, Beyonce, and Diddy were all born on the 4th. And then they all have, like, album titles that have the number 4 in there. Just the 4th of a month? The 4th. And then Lisa Lopez, Michael Jackson, and Aaliyah all died on the 25th. Okay. So... Why would they want that pattern? I don't know.

I don't know, but people have started to put this together. And then there's a song called She Knows by J. Cole. We can't play it on the radio, obviously. But J. Cole mentions in this song all three of their deaths and said, like, the whole song is like, she knows. She knows. We all know that she knows. And then all these award shows, people winning Grammys, video awards, and...

um, they all thank Beyonce when they win. So we have a couple of those. We have a couple of those clips. Let me, let me pull it up. So 136 is Lizzo thanking Beyonce when she wins her Grammy. Beyonce, you changed my life. You sang that gospel medley and the way you made me feel, I was like, I want to make people feel this way with my music. So thank you so much.

And then 137 is Adele thanking Beyonce for her Grammy in 2017. Tonight winning this kind of fills full circle and I'm very humbled and I'm very grateful and gracious. My artist of my life is Beyonce and this album for me. The Lemonade album was just so monumental, Beyonce, and so well thought out and so beautiful and soul bearing. We f***ing adore you. You are...

black friends feel is empowering and you make them stand up for themselves. And I love you. I always have. And then I think probably everyone remembers. I don't know if you remember this, but it clip one 41 Kanye West interrupting Taylor Swift at the VMAs. And this clip has kind of lived in infamy. Everyone's talked about it, but it got resurfaced because after all these Beyonce conspiracy theories started happening, um,

Everyone was like, wait, maybe Kanye West was trying to save her life. Taylor Swift. If you don't thank her, if you don't thank her, then who knows what's going to happen? Allegedly. This is like the plot of like a horror movie or something. I think if this I mean, obviously, this is all alleged. I think Ryan Murphy can make a really cool TV show. You don't say Beyonce three times to the mirror. Yeah. Like appear with like a kitchen knife. Yeah. So we have we have 141 of Kanye interrupting Taylor if we if we want to play it for the throwback.

I sing country music, so thank you so much for giving me a chance to win a VMA award. Yo, Taylor, I'm really happy for you. I'm going to let you finish. But Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time. One of the best videos of all time.

He was just trying to save her life. Maybe. I think that was like 2008? 2010, I think. Yeah. I think it happened when I was just starting college. Maybe 09. Maybe 09. I remember it. Also, Angelo, very helpful, sent me a note that Lisa Lopez is from TLC. They sing the Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls song. I don't know that song. I know that song, but I know it from, they sing it in We're the Millers. So I don't really know it.

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All right. So before we leave this, this Jay-Z thing and this Diddy thing, I do, I do want to bring up the LeBron James angle. This is something, you know, maybe, maybe I forgot, you know, Snoop line, Snoop Dogg or whatever, but I, I do follow sports closely and LeBron James has for, you know, many years, basically 20 years in the league, been the best player in the league, uh,

essentially, you know, if you take it by average, yeah, there's been years where some other players would come up and take him. But here's what I will say. 20, 22 years in the league, he's been basically the best player. He has taken time away from the game. And he is now, for personal reasons, he missed, like,

23 pointers in a row, something that has never happened in his career. He's saying he's gassed. He's tired. He's saying, you know, he may not play in the league that much longer. So there's a lot of rumors going on about LeBron. Is he going to get traded? Is there something else going on? So all of this kind of overlaps with the Jay-Z Diddy scandal that's going on.

And a lot of people are bringing up the fact that Jay-Z just got looped into this. And is there going to be something with LeBron? Now, this is all internet rumor, obviously unsubstantiated. We have no reason to believe this is true. But I will say there is this one clip that is circulating. Remember, the freak-offs are the big story with Diddy and all of the mishaps that happened there, the criminality, allegations of rape.

Let's go ahead and play cut 124. This is a, a, from a sort of like a, I guess it was an Instagram stream. Daisy, maybe, you know, where, you know, LeBron joined Diddy and he's got, he's got his friends or maybe even his son behind him. And they're, they're talking about Diddy's parties. 124.

Hey, everybody know ain't no party like a Diddy party, so. Yeah, that's what's up. Not a good look. Yeah, and we were throwing that B-roll up there, too, of them together, which I hope we can still play. But so now there's all this speculation with Jay-Z getting wrapped up into it. Maybe LeBron is having, knows something's coming down the pike.

But again, internet rumors, speculation. I'm sure Blake will tell me there's nothing to this story. I think LeBron, the thing about LeBron, like super villainous stuff with LeBron is LeBron is sort of, like when he's annoying, it's almost in this like childish way, if that makes any sense. Like one thing that never got investigated, at like the peak of the, you know, kind of like,

I don't think it was during Floyd. It might have been slightly before it. But, like, he very obviously faked... Someone faked a hate crime against LeBron's front door where they were, like, someone graffitied hateful stuff. And, like, considering it's LeBron James, a very famous person, this got...

No one was talking about it very soon after and they've never spoken of it since. I think it's very obvious something suspicious happened there. And then like the things where he'll try to be a thought leader and he'll just be reading the first page of every book. Like there's no evidence LeBron James has ever read past the second page of any book ever. And...

Like, and obviously the decision, like, he's always just, like, corny. And then, you know, he won't say anything bad about China because, like, that's the brand. And I just, I find it hard to believe a guy who, like, goofs up in all of these funny ways would be involved in anything super sinister with Diddy. Like...

Is LeBron even rumored to cheat on his wife? All of these guys are really bad. And then he's just a family guy. He wants to be a dad. He wants his son to be in the NBA, even though he's not that good at basketball. Well, he does know about Diddy parties, apparently. And I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I think the two things can be true. I think if we do end up getting lists of names from these Diddy parties as people talk about it, I think there's probably a lot of people that were just...

Happen to be invited happen to be there and I think they were more likely they were like secondary parties happening like downstairs outside who knows where where the real shady stuff went down and they were probably like are you good are you going to tell anyone NDAs that kind of thing.

How many people would just get invited to a billionaire rapper's party and be like, yeah, he's a billionaire rapper. I'm going to go. And then they go and they're like, that was kind of weird. I'm sure that there are a lot of people that are probably really scared right now because they might be in photographs or someone might mention them that they were at a Diddy party. And they're just like normal people that were there. I think that a lot of times people can get really riled up about...

like the the power ring of hollywood when it's like i do think there are normal people in hollywood still but there also might be something crazy happening they have money well i think you're right daisy because there there's a lot of photographs of like ellen degeneres with you know she was really close to diddy and she had the the tweet about cuddling diddy or something anyways she's now uh in great britain and we don't have to deal with ellen degeneres anymore

Yeah, her house flooded immediately upon going. It's almost like karma. So, hey, Blake, you really want to hit this story about Joe Burrow. So take it away. I know nothing about it. It's great. Daisy knows a lot about this, too. It perfectly overlaps. And, you know, it's a better sport than the NBA, in my opinion. So Joe Burrow is the quarterback of the Cincinnati Bengals. He is very good. The Bengals –

Are not so good. It's been a weird season. He's having one of the best seasons ever for a guy on a losing team. But they were on Monday Night Football this week, and I can't remember. Did they win this time, or did they lose in another back-breaking fashion? They lost to the Cowboys, I think.

Oh, wait. No, the Cowboys lost because it was really – Oh, yeah, yeah. The Cowboys – It was close, though. Wacky punt. Well, the Cowboys blocked that punt. Yeah. And then it was recovered by the Bengals. So, like, they should have had a good play. 27-20. Big disaster. The Bengals won. They won. But anyway – But they're both 5-8. The downside here is some organized burglars, you know, they knew Joe Burrow was going to be on Monday Night Football. So they went and they burgled his house –

while he was on you know while he was at the stadium and it turns out the house was not empty and I had never heard of the person who was there but Daisy had heard of the person who was there so Daisy how about you explain what they found there so

Olivia Ponton, she is a Sports Illustrated model, an influencer, TikToker. And she's the one. So the story goes that she got to Joe Burrow's house and she called her mom and told her mom that someone robbed his house and that there was a broken window and a bunch of stuff was taken. And her mom called the police and said, my daughter, Olivia Ponton, is at Joe Burrow's house.

There was a burglary. She didn't want to call it in. Olivia ends up calling the police and the police ask her why she's there. And she says that she is an employee of

of Joe Burrows, which makes no sense because she, I mean, she's extremely famous. And I don't, she also like, she lives in LA. Joe Burrow lives in Cleveland. I don't also, at what point, like when you're playing Monday night football, would your employee just be at your house unless they're like your housekeeper or something. And she was able to give the police that she was able to give a detailed description of everything that was missing in the house.

Where this gets even more interesting is that Joe Burrow has had a longtime girlfriend who's a normal girl. He went to college in Ohio, right? I can't remember where, but yes. Yes, Ohio State. Louisiana, LSU. He went to Ohio State, then LSU. So they met at Ohio State.

Back before he was like the Joe Burrow that everyone knew, they met like their freshman year at Ohio State and have been dating ever since they've been dating for like almost eight years. And...

Joe Burrow gave a statement in his press conference and he was like, clearly a lot of my personal life was already outed already. I don't really want to talk about it anymore. So no one said anything, but it's a very, very interesting story. It's like, but then it does seem that people have discussed like there hasn't been a photo of him with this long term girlfriend for like a year. But they were already pretty private. Yeah. And I don't.

I don't know. It's weird. But then also the NFL sent out a memo to everyone that said this has been happening more than once. People during their games, their houses are getting robbed. You might not remember this because you've been young, but have you ever heard of Sean Taylor?

I don't know. Sean Taylor was a player for the Washington Redskins who they were doing that. They were trying to break into his home during the game. He had been injured and they didn't realize that. So he was not at the game. He was at home with his family and then they shot and killed him.

I was seven. Yes. So this is it's a crazy thing. And I'm just going to come out and say it. It's probably going to be more common now because we have let organized burglary rings into the United States under Joe Biden's illustrious border policies. So overlapping story here. Didn't LeBron James's house get burgled as well in L.A.? I believe it did.

And I think, you know, and we have these, like, Chilean gangs, like, all over the state of California. Huh.

Yeah, like, there are just professional rings at this. And that's a much bigger problem in Latin America. Like, in Latin America, you have, you know, rich people will have family members kidnapped for ransom. Like, kidnapping people for ransom, like, is a TV show plot here. But it happens in other countries quite often. Well, I mean, it is a very interesting thing that these are some of the most famous people in the world, and their schedules are just, like, fantastic.

fully on blast. Like, they know that... Because Patrick Mahomes' house was robbed. I think Travis Kelsey's house was robbed. There was another, like, Vikings linebacker's house was robbed. They know these people are not going to be at their houses. And most people don't have, like, 24-7 security. If you were an organized robber. Most people don't have...

Yeah. Instagram models or whatever she is. I don't know if Olivia Ponton is like moonlighting as a housekeeper. But maybe maybe we need to pay for people to have Instagrams.

Instagram housekeepers because that's how they were able to catch it and know what was going on. So this would be like a security issue. So hold on, what's the conclusion of this story? Is it like out and out that they have an affair and has Joe Burrow broken up with his long-term girlfriend? Neither of them have said anything. I think the conclusion as of right now is that if you're an NFL player, watch out for your house and also don't cheat on your girlfriends or your wives.

then you won't have these kinds of problems. But if he hadn't been cheating, no one would have caught the burglary at the time. Well, we don't know. She could have been a housekeeper. Or she could have been broken up with his girlfriend. We don't know. I wish someone would say something. It could have been on a break. It could have been the Ross and Rachel thing where they were on a break. And by the way, happy 35th birthday to Taylor Swift. My girl. That's for you, Daisy. Taylor.

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There are two stories that actually kind of work together. And I have to hit this, Blake. This is Crystal Mangum, the woman who falsely accused the Duke lacrosse players. And then I guess she killed somebody who's been in prison. She has come out and she basically, she's still in prison. She has come out and has apologized to,

for lying. And Blake, you can expound upon the ramifications that this story had nationwide after this clip, but let's go ahead and play it, 147. I testified falsely against them by saying that they raped me when they didn't, and that was wrong. And I betrayed the trust of a lot of other people who believed in me

and made up a story that wasn't true because I wanted validation from people and not from God. And that was wrong. And I hope that they can forgive me.

I mean, it's it's crazy, actually, like the butterfly effect of this case. Like a lot of people don't know. Stephen Miller, currently deputy White House chief of staff, one of the smartest guys in the administration. He was a Duke student at the time. This was all going down. He was he made a name for himself opposing the the lynch mob that they whipped up against these lacrosse players.

And, you know, he's a talented guy. I think he would have followed a similar course anyway. But we can think that's the first time America saw Stephen Miller in any capacity. I know of other... And also that, you know, was probably important to his ideological formation that he went through this, that he saw how the left operated up close. And it's...

It's so telling, like it's such a perfect microcosm of so many of the forces we would see in the coming years that people assumed these guys were guilty because basically they looked a certain way. They were just like these these everyone knows that these white frat bros just are raping people constantly. And that was somehow considered a valid argument.

Blake, this also had legislative and bureaucratic agencies got involved and they started changing the way universities had to deal with these sexual assault allegations nationwide. Yeah, so we're going to have to get rid of this with the new Trump administration because the Obama administration came up with these rules where they said to adhere to Title IX, you actually have to have

kangaroo courts like your threshold for considering someone guilty of uh or responsible for sexual assault it has to just be preponderance of the evidence which is you have to evaluate as 50 likely or or more

And they would say, yeah, you actually have to have hearings that don't follow, you know, you don't have to confront your accusers. You don't even necessarily get to know who your accusers are. And they would say, you have to do this or you violate Title IX. And Trump got rid of that in his first term. And then Biden, there were so many things going bad with Biden that didn't get a lot of attention, but he brought that back and made it worse. And we need to throw that out immediately and try to give that teeth because we're

It's almost forgotten now, but a lot of the 2010s, you have these shrill claims. They would say, like, one in four. Did you ever hear that number when you were in school, Daisy? Yeah, we all had to take a Title IX class our first week at college. They would claim, like, one in four women are raped on college campuses. Those are numbers that you get during a civil war in Central Africa. It is not what is going on on an Ivy League campus. Yeah.

You would get these deranged things. Yes? Oh, go ahead. Oh, I was just going to say, we've created this problem for ourselves where now when women are actually raped or when anyone is sexually assaulted, it immediately makes you be like, wait, are you telling the truth? Because we wanted to do this whole believe women, believe women, but then we've seen multiple cases where women are not telling the truth. So it makes it harder to believe people that are actually telling the truth, and it's sad. It's really sad. Yeah.

Well, everything that the left does and they sort of put out into the universe as their source of compassion, that they're the nice people and that conservatives are bad,

ultimately has this boomerang effect, this backfire effect. Me Too had this backfire effect where now we just sort of assume that many of these such cases are trumped up that they, you know, pun intended. And, you know, I think you see that at the border. We have the humane border policy. Oh, well, tell that to Lake and Riley's family that your policies are humane. Tell that to the hundred thousand fentanyl deaths every year because you think you're

immigration policies are humane. You're killing people. You're sowing chaos and distrust. I don't know if this was a pop culture topic or not, but it certainly, I think, was worth covering. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. We'll talk to you soon.