Inside the Transition + What WON’T Go Into Women's Restrooms
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Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show, what is a transition? Now, I'm not talking about a transition from a male to female. What's a transition team? We go through the details of things that I'm involved in, and I think you'll learn a lot. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Become a member today at members.charliekirk.com, members.charliekirk.com. Get involved with Turning Point USA at tpusa.com. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky today.

to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here.

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We are here in sunny Palm Beach, really the center of the universe right now, the center of the political universe. I got to tell you, we're still on this high and it's not it's not it's not planning to go anywhere. And it's just amazing to think we were so engaged in campaign mode, campaign mode, campaign mode. And think about how we ramped it up. I said, guys, you got to find new voters and you got to register new voters and you got to get low props. And then it happened and we won.

And we are on pace to have our civilization back. Now, there are a lot of threats still on the horizon, especially considering that Joe Biden is potentially going to hand Donald Trump World War III on the way up. But I want to emphasize something that I'm spending some of my time on and kind of give you guys an idea of what is a presidential transition. Now, mind you, I'm not going to share anything confidential. I'm not going to share anything that is

private. However, I get a lot of questions. Charlie, what is a transition team? And by the way, this is one transition we can get behind. It's actually a very real transition. Unlike the fake transition of that man from Delaware, of which we will discuss with Nancy Mace. This is a transition that actually is a metamorphosis. So a transition team, you're going to keep on hearing that in the news.

is very simple. You have one administration, you have the Biden administration, that has a thing called Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 candidates or jobs. Tier 1 is all of your cabinet positions. It's people that are quote-unquote in charge. Those are people like Lee Zeldin at the EPA, like Bobby Kennedy at HHS, like Pete Hegseth at the Department of Defense, like Matt Gaetz at the Department of Justice. Tier 1 individuals are ones that are Senate-confirmed and they report directly to the president.

Now, there's about 38 tier one, maybe 40. I could be wrong, but these are people that will run direct agencies that the president manages. When he has a cabinet meeting, that is tier one. And there's a couple more on top of it. Small Business Association, for example, administration, I'm sorry, SBA, Department of Labor, Department of Interior, Department of Energy. So that is tier one. But then it starts to get very interesting at tier two.

Tier two has over 800 positions that are, of course, also presidentially appointed. But the president and not just President Trump, but other administrations, you just don't have time to be able for the president to be able to look eye to eye at every single deputy. Now, mind you, Deputy Attorney General, Deputy Secretary of Defense, Deputy to CIA, the president is going to be involved in. But if you're talking about the Department of Education,

the deputy of the deputy is not necessarily going to get a face-to-face interview with the president of the United States. So there are over 850, just approximating, tier two positions. The tier two positions are actually what runs the government. The tier two positions are the ones that do 80 to 90% of the work. That is your upper mid-level management, if you will.

Those people are all presidentially appointed. Joe Biden will have no hangovers from that. And then you get down to tier three. There are 5,000 tier three positions. And back in 2016 and 2017, tier three is where we just got slaughtered. Tier three are the people that are usually 24, 25, 26 years old.

People that are going to be assistant comms director or undersecretary to the chief of staff. These are not Senate-confirmed. Some of tier two is, but tier three are all of the ground workers. And then after tier three, you have the careers.

People that are very difficult to remove. I'm sure that President Trump working with Vivek and Elon Musk are going to try to get rid of some of the careers, considering that they work at home and they are not always there and they have second or third jobs. The careers are a separate issue and more legally difficult to remove. However, if you count tier three plus tier two plus tier one, that's almost 6,000 positions that President Trump can fill on day one. Those 6,000 people

will determine the structure, the form, the tone, the tempo of the federal government. These are the people that when President Trump says, I want to

be the most pro-crypto president in history, the tier two and tier three people at Treasury are actually going to get that done. When President Trump, for example, says that he wants to hold off on new regulation, that has to go through the Office of Management and Budget, which I hope is Russ' vote, by the way, he's terrific. And then it has to kind of go through the grinder of the bureaucracy. Now, let me give you an example. Cut 55 ready. This is the military PSA. We play this clip a lot, but it's worthy of repeating.

This was likely this policy was almost assuredly not created by the secretary of defense.

It was almost certainly crafted and developed by these tier two type individuals, the undersecretary of whatever. And again, I'm in some of these transition meetings, these titles, we got it. We got to do away with some of these titles. They are so long. They're so bureaucratic. You're like, what exactly is this job? Well, I'm the undersecretary assistant to Northern Eurasian affairs. Turns out super important job, like incredibly important job. Just the title will make you dizzy. You can't remember it. And then,

By the way, Foster Freeze, may he rest in peace. One of our original donor and great mentor. Foster Freeze is rolling in his grave right now. Because one of Foster's rules for life was that you never say an acronym without first explaining the acronym.

So I'm in this meeting and they're like, oh yeah, the ORIRA is going to talk to the USCEF and that will be able to go with the codec and the AFIL will go to the ACWA. I said, what in the, what are you talking? I need an org chart and an explanation. The, I think that people in government use acronyms to either make themselves feel more important or it's some sort of special code that civilians don't know what they're always talking about. Anyway,

Once you Google it, you can obviously figure it out. So cut 55 is very interesting. This is the United States military more interested in how to use pronouns than actually creating a, the lethality of the United States military or to kill our enemies and protect the American people. This is why presidential personnel is so important. And I have to tell you, this transition is going incredibly well.

The team that is behind it, I've mentioned those names before. Susie's doing an amazing job at chief of staff. The whole team on there, Sergio, my friend at PPO is doing a great job. And the vetting is far better than anything in 2016, 2017. However, it's important to understand that so much of the things that we find objectionable happen below the cabinet level. It happened at that upper middle tier, that middle bureaucracy cut 55 shows the importance of,

of presidential personnel, which is unfolding in real time. Play cut 55. Hi, my name is Johnny and I use he/him pronouns. Using the right pronouns is a really simple way to affirm someone's identity. It is a signal of acceptance and respect. If it's a signal of acceptance and respect, how do we go about creating a safe space for everybody?

That's a good question. A really good way to do that is to use inclusive language. Instead of saying something like, "Hey guys," you can say, "Hey everyone." Another way that we could show that we're allies and that we accept everybody is to maybe include our pronouns in our emails or, like we just did, introduce ourselves using our pronouns. Now that is an official broadcast of the U.S. military. This is almost certainly third tier plus careers.

I highly doubt the Joint Chiefs of Staff were involved in creating that. Are they okay with it? Yeah, somebody probably came up to him and said, you know, sir, you know, General Smith or whatever, you know, we need to have an inclusive fighting force. You know, we're just going to do that. Okay, fine. And it was written by the lower presidential personnel. And next thing you know, we have a military broadcast about what pronouns you have to use. Personnel is policy, as the great Morton Blackwell would say.

Now, of course, Milley was okay with it. Milley wasn't the one actually crafting it or writing it. Being okay with something is something completely different with actually doing the policy. And then to what gradation of the extreme is it? Again, the way that some of these careers or tier three probably pitched it is, oh, we're just going to do a PSA about acceptance so that we're able to have our military force together. Okay, sure, whatever. And next thing you know, you have PSAs about what pronouns you use. If President Trump used to take back this government,

It is tier three careers and tier two. The sausage is made in these lower tiers. And that vetting and those interviews are happening right now as we speak.

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I want to remind you guys to get tickets to America Fest. It's December 19, 20, 21, 22. By the way, tickets are running thin. We are way ahead of last year, like way ahead of last year. And I'm sure there will be tickets available towards the end, but they won't be good tickets. You'll end up getting cheap seats. You know, let's play Cut 41. This is America Fest. Biggest speakers you can imagine, Tucker Carlson, Ben Carson, Matt Gaetz. Let's play Cut 41. What you represent, your presence here,

That the largest multi-day event in conservative grassroots history is a message that will be heard by these people. Phoenix, Arizona, people from all over the country. It's remarkable because it brings everybody together. One of my favorite LBs. The energy of the leftist watching is here. The stakes are high. Begun to fight. In honor of Dennis Prager, one of my favorite words, I got this from him in the English language, is earn to earn. And you guys earned to earn.

All of you in the audience, a chance to celebrate, to recharge, to enjoy each other's company, to find friends for a lifetime or a future wife or husband, and then get to work to get to work. So the transition is incredibly important. And again, this is a transition I can get behind. Because if you keep your guard down, again, this is why I'm living in Palm Beach, helping the way I possibly can, at least for the time being.

I'll be back in Scottsdale in due time, is that it's possible and conceivable that you win the election and you lose the White House. You win the election and you lose the government. You win the election and you lose the bureaucracy. And so all of the personnel selection and the fights around personnel are incredibly important so that the president fulfills his mandate. Let me give you an example. Do you remember Miles Taylor? Anyone remember that name? Miles Taylor?

Miles Taylor was one of the guys that would brag in the book Anonymous, and remember the book A Warning, that he would keep papers off of the president's desk. Miles Taylor, he was appointed by President Trump, ungrateful individual, to serve in DHS. He was the chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security, and he was first recruited by John Kelly.

He then wrote the op-ed in the New York Times under the pen name Anonymous saying, I am part of the resistance inside the Trump administration. This might be coming back in your memory logs. Nameless, but incredibly influential. So every one of the personnel people that are chosen and selected could be someone that is bragging about undercutting the president's policy.

Now, how this is even remotely acceptable in the chain of command that someone is bragging about keeping papers off of the president's desk. This is why you can't keep your guard down. That is why the personnel that are brought into the government is more important than ever. And it's actually quite interesting. The president is getting criticism by some. Oh, he's just picking people that are loyal to him on TV. Well, actually think about it.

That is the best, most transparent body of work that he has in front of him right now of whether or not these people share his worldview. From Pete Hegseth to Sean Duffy, have these people actually had my back? There's a lot of evidence that yes, they have. By the way, every good CEO makes sure the people around them are loyal to him or her and share the worldview.

And just to be clear, Miles Taylor, who bragged about undermining Donald Trump, I don't want to use the T word too generously, but somebody tell me how that is not treason. Somebody tell me how that is not undermining a president to keep papers off of a president's desk. I would love to have somebody explain that to me. So in the presidential transition, which is occurring right now, the entire future of the government is being put together.

And I'm very, very optimistic. But we must keep our guard up. And that is what is happening. A 5,000-person force, for better or for worse, and right now it's trending for better, is going to hit the beaches on January 20th. The beachhead operation. And that will determine the entire future of our government and with it our country.

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Nancy Mays, emphasis on the woman. Congresswoman, great to see you. I have to ask you a very simple question. What is a woman? Someone born with ovaries. It's science, right, Charlie? We should trust the science. That's what it is. Why is that? So just let's take a step back. Great answer, by the way. Thank you. You have more moral and biological clarity than your average college professor. And certainly in the Democrat Party. What is going on here with Mr. McBride in Congress?

Well, we have a member-elect who's a man who dresses as a woman and believes he should be able to force his way into women's private space, that people are on the Hill at the Capitol, whether it's our bathrooms, dressing rooms, changing rooms, locker rooms, et cetera. And, you know, he called me an extremist this week, so if protecting women makes me a bigot and an extremist,

I'm totally here for it. Guilty as charged. Sign me up. Because this crazy insanity, this political ideology of gender has got to stop. And women and girls are fighting this in their towns and their counties and their communities and their states across the country. And we've got to show them that we also have the courage and the bravery to say no. And I'm hoping that this is going to start a movement across the country to give women the courage to say no.

You're okay. You're allowed to have private spaces. Men and their penises should not be in the locker room with you. We've had Riley Gaines and many athletes over the years speaking up and speaking out. Now that this is on the front door of the Capitol, while I'm laying down the gauntlet and I'm saying hell no.

This shouldn't be controversial at all. And so here's what I understand is that why can't Mr. McBride dress as he chooses? Okay, fine. It's a free society. I think it's delusional. And then still go in the male bathroom. Why is it? And this is the core of the trans community.

the trans movement, I'm going to be kind here, but I shouldn't be, but of the whole trans project, let's put it that way, is that we must accommodate them when in reality, why don't they just

Go with how they were born. Does that make sense, Congresswoman? Why is it that we have to – why do you have to be uncomfortable for his mental illness? Yeah, why do they have to take away, strip away, and erase the rights of women for one-half of 1% of the population who have mental illness and mental health issues? It's clearly not normal and not natural.

to do this to yourself physically. And so, you know, we have to say absolutely no to the insanity. I mean, AOC was on TV yesterday saying, I was going to inspect genital parts and force people to drop trash.

I mean, this is, they are absolutely raging mad lunatics. Like I'm a rape survivor. I'm not going to be looking at anyone's private parts, but we all know like this stuff, this stuff goes on. We know who you are because you're posting about it and bragging about your mental health issues on social media. You make it really obvious, uh,

who you are. And we have to say absolutely no, but it can't stop at the Capitol. I've heard from women all across the country, Democrat, independent, Republican, gay, straight, lesbian, you name it, who aren't on with it. They aren't on board with this. And they want to see it taken out of their schools. They want to see it taken out of public restrooms, public facilities. And so I filed another bill yesterday that would put the same protections for women in all

federal property all across the country. My next bill is going to apply to educational institutions and schools that get any sort of federal funding. You're next. So when we come back in December, that bill is drafted. I'll be filing it then. So first of all, just thank you for your moral clarity on this. More...

Women need to stand up for women. So many questions here, honestly, and I think this is way more important than people realize. It's not some sort of silly thing. This is fundamental natural law and biological truth and the distinctions of which I believe God granted us, but at least...

people could say nature has birthed, right? That this is the natural established order, that there are distinctions between man and woman, and they are beautiful, and we must understand them and protect them and keep men and women, especially in private spaces, separate. Let's play cut 46. The press is obsessed with this because the media, of course, is on the side of the purple-haired jihadis. Play cut 46. With your piece of legislation...

about banning women from using... 100% yes. I'm not going to allow biological men into women's private spaces. I will stand in the brink and stand in the way of anyone on the radical left who thinks that it's okay for a penis to be in a women's locker room or a bathroom or a changing room.

Hell no. I am not going to stand for it. And the Speaker said it would be in the House rules package. If it's not, I'll be ready with a motion, a privileged motion, to force a vote on this. This is not okay. I'm a survivor of rape. I'm a survivor of sexual abuse. And I'm not going to allow any man in any female private space. Now, Speaker... End of story. And by the way, I'm getting death threats from men pretending to be women. Why is it that these crazy people, the insanity, the radical left, are willing to kill...

women over a man's right to be in a women's restroom. I just, please keep on going, Nancy. It's just so great. Well, no, I took his man card and he's not getting it back. These reporters, I had Manu Raju the other night too from CNN, tried to call me a bigot live on air too. And it's just, you know, these people are out of their mind. They're out of control. And we have to push back.

harder than ever before. I had a confrontation with a female member, Democrat member yesterday on the oversight committee who came and wanted to have a gentle private conversation about how trans are scared. You know what scares me? Is a sexual predator being in a locker room, a man watching me undress. Like I'm the last person in the world, a rape survivor who's ever going to allow

a guy in my private space watching me change clothes. That is never going to happen. And I'm going to protect other women who are vulnerable, girls who are vulnerable. And I'm proud there was a case this week in California where high school girls are pushing back and suing the California school district because they were banned from wearing a shirt that said, save girls sports. I want to follow the science. Let's follow biology. Let's follow real science. Let's

and let's protect them. And I'm hearing from women all over the world, like this is a fight that's happening now. And I never thought in my right mind, I'm someone who's broken a lot of glass ceilings, was the first woman to graduate from the Military College of South Carolina to Citadel. I'm the first Republican woman ever elected to Congress from the state of South Carolina. And here I am trying to protect women, and I'm the bigot, I'm the monster.

I'm the one that's irrational and I'm the one that's unsafe. But this man, Congressman-elect McBride, wants to create a hostile work environment for women. And we just need to push back harder than we've ever had before. We need to be screaming it, shouting it from the rooftops and let men know that we are never going to allow this to happen on our watch.

By the way, the only way you defeat this is you have to be disagreeable. And this is the issue is that some women and they feel as if they have to be agreeable with whatever the latest phenomenon is. And you must be sympathetic with people's feelings. You have to be disagreeable. You cannot agree with biological biological confusion, insanity or for the erasure of womanhood, which is really what we're looking at here. But.

I mean, I just I want to just, you know, emphasize this for a second and just ask a question. The Democrats, they act as if they have a monopoly on the female vote, all because of one issue, the abortion issue. I'm pro-life. I want a lot of people in the audience are. That's not what we're talking about today. However, there's a more fundamental issue with womanhood is that they can't even tell you what a woman is and it is the ratio of woman identity.

Are you getting any sympathy from the feminists in the Democrat Party? I mean, these these old, you know, feminists like Nancy Pelosi, who was like part of the third wave feminism movement, is are any other females on the Democrat side is

being sympathetic with your cause? On the Hill, no. And when I started sharing some of the death threats I've received this week, you know, they just doubled down. And, you know, they're silent. I mean, people, there are men dressed as women literally out there threatening to kill me because I don't want a man watching me undress. And these women are cowards, the Democrats, these far left women up here on the Hill, some of my colleagues who are

doubling down on their rhetoric and abusing women and wanting to erase women. This is a hostile work environment. It's abusive. And I'm just going to stand in the brink. I'm going to stand in their way. I will solidly stand in their way. And the only way you can handle a bully on this and just about any other issue is by punching them back in the face.

And I'm just, you know, I'm going to be bold about it. I don't care if I hurt their feelings. I'm about facts over feelings because this is the fight now. But what are they going to do down the road? It's a slippery slope. We have to protect our daughters. We have to protect biology, protect civilization in a culture that respects women and respects men. And this ain't it. And this is

is a fight that I'm willing to die on the hill for. And this is one of the reasons that Kamala didn't win as many women voters as Biden did four years ago. Women's issues were on the ballot, but it's not just about abortion, as you said. There are a lot of suburban women out there that are okay with Johnny and his willy-nilly being in the locker room with his girl. It's sick. It's twisted. I've heard

I've heard from a lot of lesbians this week. They're like, we don't want this. This is not okay. It's not safe. I don't feel safe. And we're not in on the trans movement. I want to get in on that really quick. We only have a minute remaining. Again, I'm a believer in traditional marriage.

And again, that's not we're here. But however, can you please make a distinction that this is a completely different issue than lesbian or gay? Can you please just emphasize that? I think it's incredibly important. Yeah, no, it is. I mean, I've heard from gays and lesbians, you know, who have a same sex partner, but they're not down with homosexuality.

like men being in women's spaces or men being in women's spaces. It's a totally, the trans movement is a totally different thing. They, the gays and lesbians I've talked to feel like the trans have hijacked, uh,

what they feel their rights should be. Should the government be telling people who to love? I mean, that's a freedom thing, a freedom issue. But when you're changing your gender, when you're forcing your penis into women's private spaces, they're not okay. And they feel just as violated. And it's so interesting to me that I'm getting a lot of support from those communities because they are not down with the TQ+++, because they say it's a mental health issue issue.

And it jeopardizes the safety of women. You know, and so that's a really important distinction. I'm glad that I'm hearing from these folks. I think it's really important for them to chime in as well, make that distinction and show people that this is not okay for a lot of people, Democrats, independents and Republicans. It's also a winning issue for us. And we're not going to stop at the Hill. I've had women write in and say, why?

Why just stop at the Capitol? We need this everywhere. And so I'm doing it. Congresswoman Nancy Mace, thank you so much. Talk to you soon. She knows what a woman is and she's willing to defend womanhood. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you.

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is giving Trump his cabinet and the personnel so he can actually do what the voters want him to do. Then there's phase three, running the government. And that's a whole other part of fights. And they're going to leak and they're going to smear and they're going to slander. They're going to attack. They're going to criticize. They're going to cross-examine. They're going to undermine. They're going to subvert. They're going to spy. They're going to do everything you can imagine. However, all that will be limited, dependent on what happens in phase two. So phase two is securing our cabinet.

Donald Trump deserves his cabinet. Donald Trump has earned the right to have the cabinet of his choosing. Republicans agreed with that premise with Joe Biden. They gave Joe Biden Merrick Garland. Many Republicans gave Joe Biden the cabinet of his choosing, of their selection. Now, Donald Trump has announced the most ambitious cabinet in American history. This is not business as usual. If you want business as usual,

then you got the wrong administration. You got Pete Hegseth, Tulsi Gabbard, Bobby Kennedy. The change makers are a Senate. You got Vivek Ramaswamy, Elon Musk. And now the Senate must act to confirm the Republican Senate with a 53 seat majority, which is significant, must act to confirm Donald Trump's cabinet, must act to give Donald Trump and the voters what they wanted. And the voters,

wanted change. The voters did not want more of the same. Senator Tommy Tuberville defended by name Pete Hegseth and Bobby Kennedy from the Senate floor and highlighted the number of Democrats who voted against Biden's 21 cabinet nominees, zero. So we now have a new website where you got, and we're going to be keep on plugging it all the way. Phase two will culminate really everybody mid January to early February. So you are in phase two right now. Phase one is complete.

Phase two, well, it's not yet complete because we still have the electoral college, still have certification. Don't yet see any threats on the horizon, immediate threats there, but we're staying vigilant. Phase two is personnel, personnel, personnel. It's also me getting back to transition to making sure that good folks are being selected any way that I could possibly happen. Contributing all of our energy towards Donald Trump's cabinet. Donald Trump has earned his cabinet.

So we have a website coming up and it's going to be developed called confirmthemandate.com. Confirmthemandate.com. Let's play Cut 66. The other side wants to take away your freedom of speech. They want to take away your right to vote effectively. I could no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that's under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven by cowardly wokeness.

This is what starts on day one of the second Trump term, I believe, is the mass deportation of three million federal bureaucrats out of Washington, D.C. Democrats and a lot of Republicans in Washington don't like me very much. I don't take their bribes and I don't take their commands. Any general that was involved, general, admiral, whatever that was involved in any of the DEI will...

It's got to go. Don't you want a president of the United States who's going to make our country healthy again? That is confirmthemandate.com. Confirmthemandate.com. This is going to be...

one of the biggest projects we've ever embarked upon. It will be a beginning, just an encouragement campaign that will activate into a pressure campaign for red state senators. I never have known the grassroots activated like this for confirmations other than the Supreme Court picks. And we will bring this roadshow on the ground, by the way, potentially to Rapid City, South Dakota, to Sioux Falls, South Dakota, to Boise, Idaho, to Fayetteville, Arkansas, to Topeka, Kansas.

to Tupelo, Mississippi. You picking up what I'm throwing down? This is going to not be a swing state tour. This will be a red state tour. But it's going to start with an encouragement campaign. If you publicly come out and say that you're going to support President Trump's cabinet, then there's no reason for us to come to your home state. But if you are a red state senator that has been benefiting from the votes of Donald Trump's coattails for the last 10 years...

Well, then you're going to have to justify to your voters why you're voting against Tulsi Gabbard, why you're voting against Bobby Kennedy. ConfirmTheMandate.com brought to you by Turning Point Action will be the largest grassroots movement ever to make sure that a president gets his cabinet. We are leading the charge. Honored to be doing it. And it will be coming to a neighborhood potentially near you. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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