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Go vote today. Today is the first day of early voting in Georgia. So go out and vote today. I want to take the lead and focus on a Democrat party that no longer exists. There is a relic from a time long past when the Democrat party actually used to love America. Now, mind you, this person I don't consider to be of upstanding moral character. In fact, if the accusations are true about what he may or may not have done, such, of course, as cheating on his wife, we know that, but also the Epstein Island stuff,
Not good. However, he is a relic of a Democrat that used to love the country. And I think that's what's so important and why we feel as if this election is the most important election in American history is because we are up against a Democrat party that hates the country. Kamala Harris hates the country. The current Democrat regime does not love America from keeping the borders wide open to deteriorating our currency to declaring democracy.
war against the American people with lawfare to taking away our constitutional rights, Second Amendment rights and First Amendment rights, to the lawfare against political dissidents. Kamala Harris represents a war on the soul of America, a war on the fabric of this country. But at times there are these...
moments where you realize the Democrat Party was not always this way. Yes, the Democrat Party used to have elements of this. The Democrat Party used to have some uniparty components. But the Democrat Party, 20 or 30 years ago especially, would have thought that open borders, mass migration, hyperinflation was just outrageous.
And at times you see kind of examples of this and you say, what happened to that Democrat party? That's why our elections used to not feel as if the sense of urgency was so high, as if it was shaking the country. Now it feels as if if we don't win, the country is over. And to be perfectly honest and candid with you, I wish it didn't feel that way. I wish that our elections were
We're not up or down votes of survival of the nation. I wish that both sides could agree on the big stuff. We're going to have a border. We're not going to borrow trillions of dollars we don't have. We're not going to declare stupid endless wars. And you could disagree on tax policy or domestic spending. Fine.
Instead, what we are seeing is two completely different views of civilization. Kamala Harris wants America to be raped, looted, plundered, and stolen. That is her belief. Keep it open for the third world. Donald Trump, a completely different viewpoint. And so they decided because they're losing traditional old school Democrats, Kamala Harris is losing men, and they're losing in the rules. Let's deploy someone who is a Southern Democrat, Bubba.
Let's go deploy the comeback kid, Bill Clinton himself. Now, amazingly, Bill Clinton is four years younger than Joe Biden. Let me say that again. Bill Clinton is four years younger than Joe Biden. But Bill Clinton is so much spiritually older than Joe Biden because Bill Clinton has not spent a lot of time around the new Democrats.
Bill Clinton has not been influenced by the AOCs or the Rashida Talibs or the trans jihadis that are filling the White House. Bill Clinton still has the muscle memory of how he used to talk about immigration back in 1997. So Bill Clinton has been deployed to the front lines of this campaign to try to help Kamala Harris. He's not exactly helping. You could argue that Bill Clinton is sabotaging the effort a little bit. So Bill Clinton in this clip
He broke one of the big rules of the new Democrat Party. Whatever you do, do not ever mention that we have a declining birth rate because the goal of the Democrat Party is to continue the declining birth rate. More abortions, more contraception, more corporate slavery, that having children is a form of abortion.
slavery to yourself. Do not do that. When we as conservatives mention the declining birth rate, we get written up in the Atlantic, in the New York Times. In fact, there was an article, if you guys could find it, which is why is the American right so obsessed with the birth rate? That sounds fascist. 30 years ago, Bill Clinton got a standing ovation at the State of the Union by promising to secure the border. Now you're not even allowed to talk about that.
So Bill Clinton makes an argument for mass migration by saying that we need vetted immigrants because we have a declining birth rate. You're not supposed to mention the birth rate. In fact, the environmentalists and the abortionists, they want a declining birth rate. They're happy that we are having less children. They look at human beings differently.
As a parasite on the American body politic. The same people shaming you for caring about the birth rate. Say we need unlimited immigration to make up for a failing birth rate. And also say that the great replacement theory is a conspiracy. Here is Bill Clinton, which is just an amazing example of the Democrat party that used to exist. But also he is undermining daily immigration.
As he's on the, I don't think they're going to keep him on the campaign trail for much longer. He is undermining the Kamala Harris campaign. Let's play cut. Well, there's two of them. Let's play cut 41, please. They recognize, at least most people do, we got the lowest birth rate we've had in well over 100 years. We're not at replacement level, which means...
We got to have somebody come here if we want to keep growing the economy. Well, hold on. You know, in the Democrat Party, it is verboten to mention the declining birth rate. Again, that's a very pragmatic view. I don't share that view and said we should increase our own birth rate. But could you imagine if Donald Trump said that at a rally? At least the first part. We need to have more kids. Our birth rate is down. The media would lose it. And they have. In fact, we have the articles to show it. But Bill Clinton hasn't been updated with the recent the recent news.
Windows 7.3 of the Democrat Party. Bill Clinton has not been up. He has not received the latest software upload. Bill Clinton is still a couple decades old. Here is Bill Clinton saying.
that Lake and Riley, again, this is totally off the cuff. Remember, he is four years younger than the current president of the United States, that he is four years younger than Joe Biden. Can I also say something? Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are like identical ages. Who's acting younger? I mean, it's just amazing. Bill Clinton is identical ages with Donald Trump. So here is Bill Clinton.
making the MAGA argument. Here is Bill Clinton saying that Lakin Riley, the poor girl that was hunted down by the once peeping Tom illegal immigrant who then raped her and murdered her in Athens, Georgia, that wouldn't have happened if we would have vetted our immigrants. Is this sabotage? What is Bill Clinton doing here? Well, Bill Clinton is
is probably not intentionally sabotaging the Kamala campaign. It's just he has not received the software upload. He doesn't understand why you can't talk about this stuff because he won two elections in the 1990s being honest and pragmatic and somewhat center-right. In fact, you could make an argument, and I know that this is very controversial in some ways, but some of what Bill Clinton did
because of Newt Gingrich's Congress, was far more conservative than most of what George W. Bush did. And that is a fact. Bill Clinton balanced the budget. Bill Clinton did not invade a sovereign country. Yes, he did the bombings in Serbia, Bosnia, and the Balkan Peninsula. He did not pass the Patriot Act. He did not pass Medicare Part D, Part B, D or B. Bill Clinton was actually more conservative in some ways than George W. Bush.
Bill Clinton was the last Democrat, and now they've decided to deploy the last Democrat who doesn't understand the new Democrat Party. You can't talk like this. And he says the argument. If you are trying to make up your vote, Bill Clinton tells you that the daughters that have been murdered by illegals would still be alive if Kamala wasn't president. Listen carefully. Play cut 30. You had a case in Georgia not very long ago, didn't you? They made an ad about a young woman who'd been killed by an immigrant.
Yeah, well, if they'd all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't have happened. But if they all properly vetted and that doesn't happen and America is not having enough babies to keep our populations up. So we need immigrants that have been vetted to do work. There wouldn't be a problem. And he couldn't keep people all torn up and upset. So, Bill Clinton, who's not doing the vetting exactly?
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Very excited about the progress that we are making, but we are behind right now. We need to go chase more ballots. The Democrats, they have a force in the streets. We need to go chase ballots every single day. In fact, I want to shout out some of my friends here. They are great friends in Yavapai County.
Charlie, the KDARs just banked their vote yesterday. I voted in Yavapai. Again, these are very high propensity voters. Dwight and Andrew are great people. But now they can use their time, now that they voted, to go get other people to vote. They got it out of the way. Good job, guys. And we have to run up the score in Yavapai County to deliver Arizona. We got to run up the score. I want to play a piece of tape of Nancy Pelosi from 2005.
This shows the old Democrat software that Bill Clinton is still running on. Nancy Pelosi used to sound somewhat sane, but the Democrat Party, as it elected Barack Obama and then Donald Trump, forced them into such radical positions that they are now prisoners of their ideology.
They have moved so far to the left. And I pray that this election is a referendum on the current state of the Democrat Party. I pray that this election is partially a referendum on what the Democrat Party has become against the family, against our faith, against borders. I know so many traditional liberals that are wonderful people.
They're great people. And they look at the Democrat Party and they say, I haven't moved. You left me. I didn't leave you. You left me. And they never even thought of the question of, of course, I want a border. Of course, I want free speech.
And the Democrat Party has now evolved into something that is against the core values of the country. And I don't say that in an exaggerating way. I don't say that with hyperbole. And I don't say that with delight. I wish the Democrat Party was filled of people that love the country as much as you do and I do. The election wouldn't matter as much.
We'd agree to disagree. If the other side won, then we'd cut a deal and we could enjoy some of the other deeper, more beautiful things in life. Instead, we are in this tense struggle to save the republic because we are up against an insurgent occupying force named the American Democrat Party. OK, here's cut 47 of Nancy Pelosi sounding almost sane when it comes to immigration. Play cut 47. Broken borders. That's an oxymoron.
something we can't tolerate. Borders of their nature, our definition as a nation and our protection as a country.
broken borders that doesn't, they don't exist. We can't tolerate them. So let's stay safe from the start that we all in this body, and I know I can speak very firmly for the Democrats, support strong border control. And it must be part and the first part of any comprehensive immigration reform.
We have it is an obligation as elected officials to keep the American people safe. And our borders are our first line of defense, one of our early lines of defense to do that. This is like watching clips from another dimension. Let's play cut 49. Nancy Pelosi continuing again. This is the old software.
This is before the update. And this is what the Democrat Party used to be. And the reason I'm emphasizing this is that this is so important to tell Democrats in your life that still might be leaning against it. You're not voting for a party that exists anymore. You are voting for a relic. You are voting for something that is gone, is destroyed. This is like the old AOL dial-up version. That's what you're voting for.
You're voting for something that is been obliterated. Placut 49 enforcing laws, current laws against those who came here illegally and those who hire illegal immigrants. Yet the Bush administration has refused to do just this. Imagine that for all of this talk about illegal immigration to the United States,
and going after those workers who are working here illegally, and we should. But we also must have employer sanctions. Where are these people working? Why are we not enforcing the law against employers who hire illegal, undocumented people here? The Bush administration has prosecuted only three people
employer sanctioned cases in the last fiscal year. Only three cases. When, yes, when are we going to take this issue seriously? Nancy Pelosi was ridiculing George Bush for being two open borders.
This was from 20 years ago. That's what the Democrat Party used to be. Now they're a party of open borders. The only solution is Donald Trump. If we just vote on one issue, it's the border. That's the only issue you vote on. You have to vote for Trump or else you do not have a country, period. You do not have a border. You do not have a country. You do not have Trump. You do not have a country. Very simple.
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Joining us now is Sean Davis, who is terrific. And he had a tweet that went very viral yesterday, CEO and co-founder of The Federalist. Sean, tell us about your Michigan observation and what started as seemingly gloomy news actually is rather a motivating factor showing that we can win Michigan. Sean, please explain.
Yeah, so yesterday a left-wing account in Michigan that allegedly specializes in vote stats put out a bunch of data from Michigan focused on specific counties and cities looking at how many absentee ballots had been requested so far and how many had been returned. And the number that caught my eye initially was a number in Detroit out of Wayne County that said of I think 103,000 absentee
absentee ballots that had been requested, already 40% had been turned in, you know, and we're still three weeks out from the election. So I found that number kind of alarming. So I gave it to our elections team over at the Federalist, our election integrity team, which is spectacular. And they looked into it. They ran it into ground to the ground. And what they found was Democrats are actually a lot
a lot more behind than they were in 2020. I think at this point in 2020, they had requested 400,000 ballots in Wayne County. Within two weeks, they had had a 70% return. Right now, it looks like on just requests,
they're down 70, 80% compared to where they were. So maybe the yield is up a little bit, but the fact that those numbers are down so much in total numbers compared to 2020, uh, the people on the ground we talked to, uh, were very cautiously optimistic, cautiously, uh,
which I take is a good sign. Yeah. So let's kind of take a step back here, Sean. What does your election integrity team say about not just early vote requests and returns? Because those are very deceiving. We're still only a week into this. So a lot of people still haven't gotten their ballots. Next week, we'll have a lot of clarity. But what are they saying about the ballot security measures? Have there been meaningful and impactful changes in
whether in the courts or in legislation, to make this a more secure election in the states that matter? Oh, I think it's definitely more secure compared to 2020. Is it where we would like it to be, ideally? Of course not, because unfortunately, we don't control all the state legislatures. We don't control all the governorships. But compared to 2020, I think we have made
huge progress. The problem that happened in 2020 is in dozens of states, they changed the rules in the middle of the election. Courts refused to take an honest look at whether the rule changes were legal or constitutional. And it just created a total chaotic scenario where Democrats were effectively able to control the entire process. That's not the the
lay of the land that we have this year. So it's not perfect, but I think in state after state after state, we've seen significant improvements in election security and integrity measures.
So, yeah, and let's just keep on focusing on Michigan here. They are down, but also the widespread turnout will be down. So we need to make sure we're comparing apples to apples. They might be down, but turnout generally might be down. This should be a shot in the arm to drive turnout and to get our side to say, hey, we can win, but we need to work our tail off. Is that correct?
Yeah, absolutely. Like people don't need to be black billing. They don't need to be doomers. We've got three weeks and we're effectively, you know, we've just finished the second quarter. We have a whole half left to go. You don't walk out on the football field and kick yourself and say, oh man, this thing's over.
And you certainly don't walk out there and say, this thing's done. We can just mail it in for the next two quarters. You go out there and you work your butt off. You do every play to the best of your ability. And the people that we've talked to on the ground that are doing ballot chase, they've seen since July doing ballot chase and doing door-to-door. They seem pretty optimistic. And so the time now, it's not the time for being super rah-rah, we've got it in the bag,
or saying, oh, we don't have a chance. The time now is to work your butts off, work as hard as you can and get to the finish line. So just repeat this for the sake of memory, though, which is that Democrats had a 70% advantage in Detroit two weeks out in 2020. They're only at 40% now with four weeks to go. Overall numbers are down huge. Can you just repeat that for the sake of memory?
Yeah. So what we were told by our folks on the ground is that with two weeks left to go in the election, and we're three weeks out now, Democrats in Detroit had 70% of their absentee ballot requests turned in. Right now, we're three weeks out. They're at 40%. 2020 to me was such an odd year. I actually am in benchmarking compared to 2016. I think it's a lot more analogous. And across the board, Kamala Harris is doing worse than Hillary Clinton was.
across the board, in every battleground state, in national numbers. And I think that's, you know, if we're looking at polls, if we're looking at macroeconomic signs and just big macroelection signs, to me, 2016 is the comparison. And this feels like 2016 to me, with the vibe, with the energy, with the people wanting change, with the failure in government. It feels to me like we're looking at 2016, not 2020.
Yeah, and understand over 400,000 in 2020 were requested, only 103 requested in 2024. Just the raw material is not there to be able to do it. I want to shift gears here, Sean, and talk about Joe Rogan. I would love to see Kamala Harris's internal numbers, wouldn't you, Sean? I want to see what her team is looking at because now she's sitting down with Brett Baer, which I hope that they'll release an unedited episode.
interview, Fox News will, because they're not doing it live. I think that's very important. And I trust Brett Baer to do a great job, but I want to make sure that there's full transparency here. That's number one. And then she's thinking about sitting down with Joe Rogan, which just to be clear, even if you're good at this, like you and I, Sean, we do this for a living. Joe Rogan is not an easy interview. It's not.
It is long. It is deep. It is detailed. It is unpredictable. It is goofy. She will be asked about psychedelics, aliens, whether or not she worked at McDonald's.
and whatever else comes to Joe Rogan's mind. Joe Rogan can be best kind of compared to just kind of the random chieftain 500 years ago. Tell me about why sun goes up. And just like he just asks random questions of people that come to him. Not exactly what Kamala Harris is good at. Let's play cut 50.
There's also some discussion we're hearing that she may do the Joe Rogan podcast, the most popular podcast in the country. But if she does Joe Rogan and then this if she does Joe Rogan, that's an exact she's aiming right at young men. Right. Which is a constituency that polls show that not just her, but the Democratic Party is getting a little shaky on. And those men are more interested and seem interested in Donald Trump.
And so basically she and the campaign are trying to say we're not scared to go in front of what folks might think is unfriendly waters or enemy territory. Not scared, Sean. Well, she's welcome on The Charlie Kirk Show anytime. But, Sean, your reaction on Kamala Harris thinking about doing Joe Rogan?
I'm actually super curious. I'm getting a whiff of her team lying to everyone during the convention, telling them Beyonce was going to come play the convention so they would tune in and watch her. And it was a total lie. We saw Trump say he's probably going on Rogan. Rogan's people are hinting at it. We know Trump loves these long-form podcasts. He can talk about anything. My guess is that what Harris is doing is she wants people to think that she wants to go on Rogan.
And then I also suspect that her people are trying to bully Rogan into letting her only go on for 15 or 20 minutes on a very narrow set of topics rather than having to sit for three hours. If she goes on there for two or three hours, she's cooked. That woman is an inch wide and an inch deep. There is no possible way she can go on there for that long and not look like a total moron.
I totally agree. Look, I happen to be a big fan of Joe Rogan. I listen to a lot of his stuff. I think he's way smarter than people give him credit for. He's incredibly entertaining and he's a pioneer. He is to podcasting what Rush Limbaugh was to the AM dial. That is what he will go down as. He reinvented it. He pioneered it. We are all following kind of in the footsteps of how Joe Rogan invented a medium. And you don't have to like him. You just have to respect the game the same way that Rush Limbaugh resurrected
AM radio back in the 90s and early 2000s and created it talk radio to be a thing. And again, Joe Rogan, he's not going to put up with that. I mean, again, Joe Rogan is the guy that defied the public health authorities when it came to CDC and ivermectin. He's not going to put up with it. In fact, Joe Rogan, when he gets a little ticked, he's good. Remember, he is a comedian. Kamala Harris is not. And by definition, if you are a comedian,
You're very good on your feet because you have to be able to deal with hecklers and be able to make jokes off the cuff. I sure hope she does it. And I don't think in any world would Joe Rogan allow her just a 15-minute drive-by. He doesn't need the ratings that bad. Sean Davis, thank you so much. Thanks, Charlie.
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They are seeing the data collapse. You forget what candidates say. Instead, look at what candidates do. And Kamala Harris wanting to go do potentially a Joe Rogan interview and also Brett Baier after she did this failed media circuit last week. They are seeing their numbers start to nosedive and they want to bring them back. Does that mean we're going to win if the election was held today? I still give us a 50-50 shot. I still think it's a 50-50 chance today.
I think Donald Trump has the momentum. I think we're starting to get into gear with ballot chasing. But understand, the Democrats have thousands of people ballot chasing right now. We are outmanned, outgunned, outspent. Outmanned, outgunned, outspent. But will we be outworked? That is the question.
Let's play cut for ABC News says the economy is getting worse with more Americans trusting Trump to handle the economy. Now, if you guys want some encouragement, why you should work harder and why I think we can run to the finish line and we have a reasonable chance at winning here is because late breakers are going in Donald Trump's direction. Understand, everybody, we've already won the debate. I've said this before. The debate is over.
We are the winner of the debate. There are four major issues in every election that you could break it down as four major issues. We have one convincingly on three out of four, and one of them we're only losing now by 10 points, which is abortion. I wish the country was pro-life. That is 2025 stuff that we can work on the culture persuasion. We have won an economy. We've won an immigration, foreign policy slash competency to serve.
They've won on one issue, which is abortion. So we went on three out of four. They went on one out of four. And the one out of four that they're winning on is a very micro issue in the sense that it is ranked low on importance for voters. It is less than 10% of voters are only voting on the abortion issue. So we have three out of four. This was not the case in COVID in 2020. We lost on COVID in 2020. We lost on competency to serve. We lost on quote unquote integrity. And we even lost, we barely won on the economy in 2020.
We didn't even win on immigration in 2020. We lost on almost every major issue in 2020. And with all the nonsense still only fell 42,000 ballots short in three states. This is not about the debate. It's about machine time, baby. It's about who is going to be able to chase the ballots and do the work. Who has the better plumbing? Who has the better mechanics of get out the vote? Policies are basically now baked into the equation. Who can do the work?
And this audience needs to keep on doing the work because look right here. Americans are tilting towards Donald Trump when it comes to the issues they care about most. Play cut four. Some 59% of Americans say they believe the economy is getting worse compared to just 23% who say it's getting better. With more Americans trusting Trump to handle the economy if he wins a second term. I mean, look, I'm not going to make any predictions, but this, the table has set everybody for us to chase to win.
The table is set. You could not ask for a better set of circumstances. And...
Young black men, which is traditionally the base of the Democrat Party, is defecting. Play cut 42. And sometimes there's a trend line that I never noticed before and make me go, whoa, this is one of them. All right. This is the Democratic margin among black men under the age of 45 in presidential elections. You go back to November of 2012. What do you see? You see Obama by 81. Clinton only won him by 63. Then we're all the way down to Biden last time around by 53.
A tremendous drop already. And then you take a look at the average of the most recent polls and Kamala Harris is up by only 41 points. That is about half the margin that Obama won them by back in November of 2012. And this, I think, is, you know, when Barack Obama goes in last week when he was in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, essentially talking to young black men, he made it seem like it was a Kamala Harris specific problem.
This is part of a longstanding trend of young black men moving away from the Democratic Party. And Kamala Harris is just the latest to face that magnitude of black, younger black men going towards the Republic. That was what Blake's Dartmouth classmate there is spot on. I mean, that that is a collapse, 40 point collapse of black men. And I see it on campus. It's so amazing. It never you see the case. If a black man will come up to a turning point table, he's now more likely a MAGA supporter than he is on the left.
By the way, just a man in general, Hispanic man, Asian man. That is the distinction here. If it ends up being a 40 point collapse, then they have big problems. So what do we have to do? The table is set for us to work harder than ever before. Everybody, it is 21 days to the last day of voting. 21 days to the last day of voting. We have 21 days left. Cammy peaked a little while ago. Trump has not peaked yet. Let me say that again. Trump has not peaked. No one runs the two minute drill like Donald Trump.
We are tied. It's fourth quarter. We have the ball on our own 40 and is one minute and 42 seconds to go. We have Tom Brady and we are the offensive line. You are the offensive line. Go do the work. Chase the ballots. Give our candidate a chance to go win the game. We have the best closer in the history of politics. Go chase ballots. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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