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How the UnitedHealth CEO Killer Was Caught... In a McDonald's

2024/12/10
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Charlie Kirk对联合健康公司CEO Brian Thompson被杀案进行了详细的分析,案件的离奇之处在于嫌犯Luigi Mangione来自富裕家庭,就读于常青藤大学,与受害者Brian Thompson的背景形成鲜明对比。嫌犯留下的简短宣言,类似于"优纳轰炸机"宣言,攻击那些"继续剥削我们国家以获取巨额利润"的公司。Charlie Kirk推测嫌犯的性格转变可能与背部手术和吸食迷幻药物有关,并分析了嫌犯阅读清单中《山区悲歌》和《优纳轰炸机宣言》等书籍对其行为的影响。此外,Charlie Kirk还关注到公众对该事件的反应,许多人对CEO被杀事件缺乏悔恨,这反映了美国医疗保险体系的缺陷以及社会对医疗保险公司的不满情绪。他认为,这不仅仅是一个个案,更反映出美国社会更深层次的问题。

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Why did Luigi Mangione allegedly kill UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson?

The motive remains unclear, but Mangione left a 262-word note resembling a manifesto, criticizing companies for exploiting the country for profit. His social media and reading list, including the Unabomber Manifesto, suggest a growing radicalization possibly influenced by psychedelic drugs and a personality change after back surgery.

What was found on Luigi Mangione when he was arrested?

Police found a silenced pistol described as a ghost gun, assembled from parts purchased online, and a fake ID matching the one used by the shooter. He also had a short manifesto-like note criticizing corporate profit.

What is the significance of the Unabomber Manifesto in this case?

Mangione's reading list included the Unabomber Manifesto, which attacks modern industrial society and big business, accusing them of destroying human relationships and the environment. This suggests a possible ideological connection to Ted Kaczynski's radical views.

How did Luigi Mangione's background contrast with Brian Thompson's?

Mangione came from a well-off family in Maryland, attended the University of Pennsylvania, and had a promising career in computer science. In contrast, Thompson was the son of a farm worker and attended Iowa State University, highlighting a stark socioeconomic difference between the two.

What role might psychedelic drugs have played in Mangione's actions?

Mangione reportedly experimented with psychedelic drugs, which he may have used to manage pain after back surgery. His friends noted a dramatic personality change after the surgery, suggesting that the drugs could have contributed to a psychotic break leading to the murder.

What is the public reaction to Brian Thompson's murder?

Some people on the internet are celebrating Thompson's death, with thousands expressing a lack of remorse. This reaction highlights a deeper frustration with the health insurance industry and perceived injustices, though vigilante justice is widely condemned.

What is the significance of Mangione's arrest at a McDonald's?

Mangione was arrested at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania, after being spotted using a fake ID. The location became a point of interest, with some people even review-bombing the restaurant, claiming it was full of rats.

What is the current status of Daniel Penny's legal case?

Daniel Penny has been cleared of criminal charges, but he still faces potential civil charges. This means he is not entirely out of legal trouble despite the criminal victory.

What is the NDAA, and why is it significant in the context of Trump's cabinet?

The NDAA, or National Defense Authorization Act, is an annual bill that authorizes defense spending and outlines priorities for national security. It is significant because it could potentially tie the hands of Trump's cabinet picks, such as Pete Hegseth, if passed in its current form.

What is the current momentum for confirming Trump's cabinet picks?

There is growing momentum to confirm Trump's cabinet picks, with many senators expressing support for his nominees, including Pete Hegseth. The Senate is aiming to hold hearings and votes as early as January to ensure Trump's team is in place quickly.

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The podcast discusses the arrest of Luigi Mangione, the suspected shooter of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Mangione's background, potential motives, and the public's reaction to the murder are explored, highlighting the unusual circumstances and disturbing societal implications.
  • Luigi Mangione, the suspected shooter, was apprehended at a McDonald's.
  • Mangione's background includes an Ivy League education and a seemingly centrist political leaning.
  • The public's reaction to the murder is noted as disturbing, with many expressing a lack of remorse.

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Hey everybody, it's time for the Charlie Kirk Show. The strange case of the killing of the United CEO, the United Healthcare CEO, very, very bizarre and strange.

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Yesterday we were in Washington, D.C., and we missed some major news, the Daniel Penny news in particular. Blake, thank you for filling in. You did a great job at that breaking news hour. I have a lot to say about that, but I need to really kind of combine my thoughts. I'm going to get to the more breaking news, though, but it is phenomenal news that Daniel Penny walks free. They're still going to go after him, by the way. They're still going to go after him on civil charges. So he's not completely out of the woods.

However, criminally, it is a major win for justice and the American way of life. The suspected UnitedHealthcare CEO shooter has been apprehended after a week-long manhunt. This is one of the weirdest stories that we've seen in quite some time and one of the saddest. The suspected shooter, Luigi Mangione, was spotted at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Police arrived and they found he was using the same fake ID that was used by the shooter.

They also found a silenced pistol with him, which they described as a ghost gun, a gun assembled from parts purchased online. Mangione had a short 262-word note similar to a brief manifesto. Reminds you almost of the Unabomber manifesto, which attacked companies that, quote, continue to abuse our country for immense, immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it, unquote.

The fact pattern of the story is really remarkable. Mangione, the supposed downtrodden hero of the working class, is from a very well-off family in Maryland and attended an Ivy League school, the University of Pennsylvania. Brian Thompson, the man he murdered in cold blood, was the son of a farm worker and went to Iowa State. So why did he do it? Why did he kill this CEO in cold blood?

We're sure to learn a lot more, but from scouring Mangione's social media profile, we've learned a lot. Mangione appears to have been a person of immense promise. He was a high school valedictorian and had an Ivy League degree in computer science. As a young man, he doesn't seem to have been that far left of a radical. In fact, he seems to have been politically centrist. But then something went terribly wrong.

Mangione was supposed to participate in a friend's wedding this fall when he suddenly vanished and stopped speaking even to his family and friends. According to his friends, Mangione had a dramatic personality change after undergoing back surgery.

He also posted about experimenting with psychedelic drugs. Really a bad idea. This whole new rise of ketamine and LSD-laced psychedelics is a bad, bad trend in our country. I do not support it. All of a sudden, the street drugs in the 1960s are considered to be legitimate prescriptions and alternatives. It's a bad idea.

So one possibility is that he underwent surgery and used psychedelic drugs to try and manage the pain and instead had a psychotic break that ended in murder. Internet users have also read through his Goodreads page, which lists hundreds of books that he's read over the years. One of those, by the way, was Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance. But the more interesting one was the one by the Unabomber.

Ted Kaczynski, otherwise known as the Unabomber Manifesto. Now, interestingly, if it's true that Mangione was poisoning himself with psychedelics, he had a lot in common with Ted Kaczynski. Ted Kaczynski was also a victim of...

of poisoning, of course, by the Central Intelligence Agency. The Unabomber's Manifesto is famous on the American right because it sends quite a bit of time attacking modern liberals. It accuses them of hating the West. Remember, Kaczynski was also a genius as well.

and justifying all kinds of evils as a result. We've certainly seen that to be true. But the manifesto also attacking modern big business and industrial society in general, accusing it of breaking down human relationships, alienating us from one another, and wrecking the environment, and so on. Ultimately, the Unabomber believed that tearing down all of modern society was needed to save humanity. It's a radical work and one that, if taken seriously, could lead a person to commit terrorism.

In this case, at least, it seemed to have actually happened. Now, the deeper we dive into this, the more dark we see the picture of Mangione. What would lead him to do something like this? Well, it could be an insurance claim. It could be this belief that the insurance industry is inherently awful or evil. However, allow me to mention something that I've seen from the outside, which I am simply a...

reporter on this and i find it to be very disturbing the widespread internet reaction of the lack of remorse for the death of this ceo is very noteworthy this ceo brian thompson did not deserve to be murdered in the street at all not everyone necessarily agrees with that

There has been, there are thousands, if not tens of thousands of people that are celebrating the death of Brian Thompson. The death penalty with no pre-trial due process. Now, vigilante justice in this way is completely wrong. However, let's just take a step back and say, what is it that would drive the American people to do this?

to believe that Brian Thompson, not the American people, but some people, enough where it's noteworthy, okay? Not some fringe on the internet. To believe that a CEO and a father of two who's doing his job deserves to be murdered. And it is a deeper and darker picture into how broken health insurance is in this country. In some ways, of course, this is a mental health issue. This guy's obviously been all psychedelic-ed up. Very, very high IQ and...

with an altered brain could be very, very evil. But I'm just struck by how many people aren't upset and not sad that this CEO was murdered. That this CEO, because they say that, well, my claim was not filled. My claim was not taken. And that's another very difficult takeaway from this entire saga.

People are even review bombing the McDonald's where Mangione was arrested, saying that it was full of rats. So what does this mean for our culture, our society? It will go down as one of the most perplexing stories in 2024. The CEO goes to a shareholder meeting and Mangione, who obviously did his research, he assumed he was going to be there. And we still don't yet know how he knew he was going to be there at that very specific time.

Mangione is likely going to spend the rest of his life in prison. And I mean, the CEO of United Healthcare had death threats. I get death threats all the time. Didn't have personal security with him. And that's too bad. But for millions of people to react, and of course, Mangione is innocent until proven guilty. He's a suspect, not convicted. All those proper prerequisites and important things to note.

If even a small portion of the population is thrilled that a CEO, I mean celebrating, saying the CEO deserved it, what does that mean? There's something else deeper going on here. Let me be perfectly clear. The CEO did not deserve it. This guy should go to jail for the rest of his life. I'm simply observing the reaction as a curious onlooker saying, what is this? This is strange. I mean, I think it's terrible. I think it's a tragedy that a father of two

And a guy in a replaceable CEO role just gets murdered in cold blood. I think it's awful. But we need to think about this and ask ourselves the question less about the Mangione, because I think we have a picture about that. It's psychedelics. It's the ayahuasca crowd. That stuff will drive you nuts. It's not good. I think there's a deeper thing at play here worth some examination.

Just understand that I believe in the book of Romans or Philippians, there is a prohibition on the Greek word called pharmakia, which is exactly what this guy used. And I believe it is a gateway to the demonic and the underworld. Do not play around with that stuff, everybody. It is bad across the board.

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Joining us now is an excellent man in the U.S. Senate, one of the few, Senator Eric Schmidt from the great state of Missouri. Senator, welcome to the program. There has been a lot of drama recently around Senate confirmations, including Pete Hegseth. What would you give Pete Hegseth's chances of now being confirmed? And walk us through some of the events of the last week. I think he's got a great chance.

And I think the vibes are strong. I met with him last week. I'm on the Armed Services Committee. Pete's a great pick. And you look at the sort of the electrical cord that runs across all of these picks, Charlie, you've talked about it a bunch, is that they're all disruptors. They're all reformers. President Trump ran on this. He talked about it for well over a year. He held rallies all across the country. He talked about disrupting the status quo in Washington. And that's exactly what he's doing with these picks.

Our conversation centered around reforms within the Pentagon. We've got to be nimbler. We got to be smarter. One of the big advantages we've always had against our adversaries like China is that we're innovators and China copies. Well, if you have a Pentagon that's completely, you know, this bureaucratic mess, we're not going to innovate very well moving forward. He talked about that eliminating DEI once and for all in the Pentagon. We've got some wins. I've sponsored, I had a hiring freeze, but you really need somebody at the top who's

to lead that cultural kind of change to get back to war fighting. And instead of all these social experiments, this racist DEI. So he's a smart guy. He's going to do a great job. And I think he's going to get through. I think, honestly, I think they're all going to get through because senators, I think, appreciate it. I hope they do. It's certainly something I talk about.

President Trump won with that mandate. He won the popular vote. He swept the battleground states. It's unprecedented. It's the greatest political comeback in American history, and he deserves to have a team around him that wants to execute on his vision. So, Senator, there's some whispers that the NDAA, which is this big bloated thing that gets passed, could potentially tie –

Pete Hegsets and Doge's hands. Educate our audience on what the NDAA is. Do you guys need to pass it as this monstrosity before we add a couple more Senate seats and take the majority? Please walk us through the details on the NDAA. Yeah, so the NDAA is the National Defense Authorization Act. It's passed every year and essentially authorizes how we allocate resources to protect our country, right? So, you know, what do you want to spend money on? Are you spending money on, you know, the Air Force for this or are you spending money for the Navy for that?

We have real challenges right now. I'll tell you, China has a bigger Navy than we have. It's not a better Navy, but it's a bigger Navy. We've got supply chain issues. We've got production problems. And so the NDA is sort of a statement on the things.

that we care about as relates to our national defense. It's about $800 billion a year. That's what it is this year. And so it's something we do. I think there's a lot of big wins in this NDAA as relates to DEI, getting rid of some of this censorship enterprise that was embedded by the Biden administration. But we're going to crack at this next year. And my hope is that

We have an administration and we will, that's very much reform minded. But the NDA is something that every year we sort of put our stamp on what are the, our priorities that relates to the national defense. And I did talk to Pete about that. I think he's coming in and what I would say is, and you know, this to be true, I'm into the audiences. We'll know this to be true. The legislative branch plays a very important role with appropriating and oversight, but you have to have,

True believers leading those organizations. It's the reason why we got into this goofy DEI stuff in the first place. It was political. It was meant to send some sort of virtue signal. It's hurt recruiting. The Navy's recruiting is down. They fired over 6,000 well-qualified men and women from the armed forces because they refused to get the COVID shot. I mean, this stuff is nuts. So you really do need leadership that's going to change it culturally beyond just any legislation that we would pass or not pass.

So there were some whispers last night. I don't need to get too deep into this, but that Schumer is doing some last minute stuff to try to protect the National Labor Relations Board from Trump. They can file cloture. They can force it through. I know that it's a kind of a wonky thing. I want you just to comment on that. But more broadly, I mean, we are now three weeks out from the Senate majority flipping because it happens on January 3rd.

what last minute sneaky things do we have to be worried about from Chuck Schumer in the United States Senate?

Yeah, the good news is we're only here for the rest of this week and next week. So there's a limited amount of time for Chuck Schumer to do shenanigans. I think we're about done. I think we kind of know the federal judges that he's going to appoint. He's got a limited number he can do on the district court level. There's not going to be any more circuit level, meaning appellate judges. That's a win. There's like four more that President Trump's going to get when he comes in because they have their own attendance issues.

But we got to make sure we show up. The NLRB stuff is a great example. These are five-year positions. It's a five-member board that decides a lot of potential disputes between business and labor and might have a role to play, quite frankly, with when President Trump wants to come in.

and have a reform agenda. And if you're not willing to show up to work, you probably shouldn't have a job in this town, right? So this is an important board. It's important, I think, that we try to knock these people out. I'm not gonna support either one of them. Those votes are coming this week, but we've gotta, if to the extent,

We can beat them. We don't have the numbers if everybody shows up, but you don't know that until everybody shows up. We got to all vote no on these, I think, to sort of beat this back. Yeah, I mean, also, I mean, you got some bitter Democrats. Jon Tester just might not show up. I mean, you got some guys that, I mean, literally Jon Tester's telling reporters, I'm going to get the hell out of here, right? And so he's...

you know, feels forgotten in some ways, Sherrod Brown. So you don't know that, right? It's just, you don't know what actually might show up and who won't. So the Senate majority will convene in early January. I've had you on this topic before, Senator. It's worth refreshing. I know you're getting this question a lot. So what, have you guys started to go through committee hearings and scheduling votes from January the 3rd before January 20th so that we can start to get Trump's cabinet within hours of swearing in?

Yeah, so I think the idea is, and our committees are going to come out. They're actually working on the composition because we've got new members coming in. I would expect, Charlie, either later this week, worst case, next week, our committees will be set, which will be an important first step. And then I think you'll see the committee chairmen start to announce committee hearings right when we're back. And you're right. We don't, we should not wait until January 20th. Let's get rolling. I met with Pam Bondi actually today.

Pam is a great friend. Pam is going to be an incredible attorney general. Uh, she's going to restore, I think, respect to an agency that, that completely has lost its way has been overtly politicized cash Patel. Um, you know, I'll be meeting with cash soon. He's going to do a great job at the FBI. He's got all this great team, but we got to get them in place. So I think the idea is, um,

at the beginning of January, as quickly as we can, let's start scheduling these hearings. Let's start getting votes so that president Trump has his team in place as quickly as possible. That is the goal. So, yeah, I just, so you can't, you can get them at a committee before January 20th. Can you confirm them before January the 20th? Yeah, theoretically, because the new Congress is sworn in on January 3rd, the new members are sworn in. We come back in earnest, really that next week, whatever that is, January 6th,

That's when we begin our work. So they're sworn in on the 3rd, the new members, January 6th, we come in and then it's go time, right? And so my position would be let's like that first week, like, let's not wait. There's no organizing to do anymore. Everybody's been had their committee assignments. Let's roll. And so, yes, we can have the committee hearings. We can vote them out of committee. We can vote on the floor. I mean, there's some timing issues there about, you know,

But but we're not talking about a very long time. So I think in January and even in early February, let's get going. But to my look, if we can get everybody done by January 20th, I would love to do it. But at a minimum, let's just start. Let's get the hearing set. Let's air this stuff out. Let's let the American people see all these great picks that President Trump.

has offered up now and let's get going. Yeah, that's really instructive and helpful. That didn't happen back in 2017 though. In fact, Donald Trump did not even get his attorney general till early February. I mean, it was a very prolonged process.

What is Senate Majority Leader Thune doing differently in a good way that prior Senate leadership has not done? Yeah, so I wasn't here in 2017. I was AG in Missouri in that era. But Senator Thune has made clear we had a meeting last week.

with our Senate conference and President Trump joined in by phone. We were very unified about having a sense of urgency. And to me, this is what I'm telling my colleagues. We do not get these opportunities very often. I mean, the idea that we have a Republican White House, a Republican House, a Republican Senate, that people work so hard, your listeners, you, everybody across the country works so hard for this.

We cannot be back on our heels. We have to move an agenda forward that's reflective of what the American people wanted, getting key people into these positions. I also think, by way, we ought to move immediately on – I don't want to get too wonky, but reconciliation is a way that if it's tax-related, there's budget savings.

Um, we only need 51 votes in the Senate. You don't have to deal with the 60 vote threshold. Let's get some big wins early for president Trump. Let's deal with the border. Let's deal with energy. Um, the tax, the tax cuts that president Trump got in, in 2017 will expire at the end of the year. Um,

So we should do that quickly. But let's not, in my view, let's get some big wins and some points on the board early. We can deal with those tax provisions, you know, throughout the year, too, and get those done. But I think that's the way to do this, because the American people are going to be watching. They're going to see the flurry of executive orders. There's a lot President Trump can do on day one. But there are some things that we need to be able to do. And I think we need to move quickly. Very good. Senator, thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. And we'll have you on again soon. Thank you. All right, Charlie, take care. Thank you.

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Tulsi Gabbard woos the defense hawks in her first Hill visit, Politico.com writes. The former Democrat on Monday opened her campaign to win Senate support as the next director of national intelligence. Now, I think the world of Tulsi, she's become a great friend. She is just extraordinary. What's really going on here? Well, a lot of these senators, like Senator Rounds, who we very well might end up primarying,

Doesn't look exactly like the most thrilled guy in this picture. Now, this might have been just kind of, you know, caught him in a bad, candid moment. And it could just be in very misleading aesthetic or it could actually capture the essence of what's going on here.

And I just love this picture. I mean, this is like one of the highest forms of art because it's truth. He has a picture, of course, of a guy fencing hunting in South Dakota, a reminder that he has to still respond to his voters. But there he is. He's kind of looking...

very queasily at the press. So Mike Rounds does not want to vote for Tulsi Gabbard. Mike Rounds is an intel guy. He wants whatever the regime wants to spy and to subvert and to overthrow. Mike Rounds would be the guy that would be flying the Syrian resistance flag. Mike Rounds is a neocon. He is a war hawk. Tulsi Gabbard is not.

Tulsi Gabbard is an American patriot. She wants America to be safe. She wants to be able to fight radical Islamic terrorism. She wants to be able to have strong and lethal fighting force. She does not want to have nation building or regime change or over configuration with abstractions abroad. Tulsi Gabbard says, quote, I want to address the issue that's in the headlines right now. I stand in full support and wholeheartedly agree with the statements that President Trump has made over the last few days with regards to the developments in Syria.

President Trump said, quote, Syria's a mess and the United States should have nothing to do with it. He was also very morally clear about how Assad is not a good dude. But the rebels are far worse. They're both bad. And look, Senator Rounds better get with the program. And he is. I mean, look at this. Look how happy he looks. Put that picture up. He just looks thrilled. I mean, he's just, that's 10 out of 10 right there. I mean, he's just ready. He is just, he's going to champion that whole thing. He's ready to go. And look, I hope he ends up voting for Tulsi.

And of course, I mean, Mike rounds has his, you know, he's just a Bush Cheney guy and that is what it is. However, the Joni Ernst saga, which again, God bless Joni. Heat is off Joni now. She's, uh, she's back in the club. As long as she votes for Pete and votes for Tulsi and votes for Bobby, she's back at the club, but maybe Senator rounds is next boy. Wouldn't that be fun to primary Senator rounds? Blake could run the campaign. He's from South Dakota. By the way, if you chase like 5,000 votes in rapid city and like 10,000 votes in Sioux Falls, uh,

You're like half the GOP primary electorate swing boat. And look, I hope he goes behind it, but he's been very wishy-washy, very unpredictable recently with his support of President Trump. So I hope that ends up changing. I hope he ends up going, and we want to see that. A reporter asked me, they said, well, Charlie, does the criteria of who you're going to primary is just on the cabinet officials? I said, well, that's part of it. It's a large part of it, but it's also...

They're so out of alignment with what Republican voters want, specifically Republican primary voters, that we just might need a Tommy Tuberville in South Dakota. We might just need a fighter, a Mike Lee. We might need a real MAGA senator. We might need a J.D. Vance in South Dakota. So many of these guys are grandfathered in from the pre-Trump days. They're dinosaurs.

They are relics of a dynasty that has fallen. They are remnants of a time long past. I don't know how much longer they're going to be around as U.S. senators. Time will tell. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.