Fixing Elections is Easy — Which Is Why the Left Fights So Hard Against It
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Hey everybody, our Arizona tour continues with some remarkable success stories at Arizona State University. And then Tom Fitton joins the show about how we can secure our elections. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Subscribe to our podcast, open up your podcast application and type in Charlie Kirk Show.

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Happy Friday. We are 18 days out from the last day of voting. We have 18 election days from now to Tuesday. Yesterday, we had a epic day in Arizona. Kudos to Donald Trump Jr., who is a true patriot. This guy took a early morning flight from the East Coast, landed around 10 a.m., and did an event every hour on the hour. We had events in Mason. We had events in Queen Creek. We had events at Arizona State University. We had events in Tempe. We had events everywhere. And that...

He was out later doing events than I was yesterday. And so yesterday we went and did our Super Chase events in Queen Creek and Mesa, which are the deployments to go chase ballots. It is the beginning of the strategy to win election month. After that, we did an event on campus. Let's show the picture of us on campus yesterday at Arizona State University. Thousands and thousands of students that were attending our on-campus event at Arizona State University.

After that, we then went to more Super Chase events. And then we did an evening event with Donald Trump Jr. right on campus there at ASU at the Omni Hotel, which I'm sure we can throw a picture of that of. And then after that, we did a very unique event, an event that shows. And by the way, it's consistent with some recent polling, the evidence for a big youth gender gap.

As we've been saying on this program, New York Times, right? Young men are much more Republican than young women. The best data suggests and may wind up backing Donald Trump.

Mr. Trump leads Harris among young men 58% to 37% across the last three New York Times-Siena polls. Now, Ms. Harris holds an even larger lead with young women, 67% to 28%. Now, we'll have plenty of time of unpacking why young women are supporting Kamala Harris so enthusiastically.

That's for a different time. But of course, these young women do not understand that they are voting to destroy their own future and the country. And to the young men credit, they are looking far in the distance that they want an actual country they can live in. Young ladies don't seem that interested in that.

Ms. Harris is, however, faring no better than Joe Biden did among young men in the Times-Sieta data, even though she's made significant gains among young women. If this enormous gender gap among young voters holds, it'll be one of the most important developments of the election season, one that would at once clarify a surprising trend and perhaps even change how we understand gender and culture dynamics in America today.

Understand, us losing young women is not a good thing, but if young men almost offset it, that means that, by definition, Kamala Harris would only win the youth vote by like 18 or 20 points, which would be a seismic change.

versus prior election cycles. Now, what you're looking up on screen there is a BYOB event that we did at Turning Point Action last night. Nope, not bring your own beer, not bring your own beverage. No, no, no, no. Bring your own ballot. This is a one-of-a-kind Turning Point Action deployment event where we had our staffers plan an event with Don Jr. in the evening on the campus of Arizona State University. Let's show that B-roll, guys.

where we were able to facilitate over 280 first-time voters for Donald Trump that submitted their ballot right there at the BYOB event. They came with their ballots from frat houses, from sorority houses, from apartment complexes, condominiums. We are making it

cool to vote for Trump. And it's not just I want you guys to understand this. This is not just a big event and vibes and energy. This is now banked votes for Donald Trump in an area that Kamala Harris needs to run up the score. Look at how long the lines were. People were bringing in their ballots. There is no other organization in the country that is mobilizing low prop first time voters and getting their votes into the system like turning point action.

In fact, let's show the video guys of actually outside of the drop box. These are first time voters, by the way. These are people that have never voted before. Look right there. There's a drop box. Boom. That is a vote. Boom. That is what these are. First time voters appeal never voted for. These are new voters into the system. Boom. A vote for Trump. Understand we as conservatives have never done this type of work before. This is work that was not done in 2020. That was not done in 2016.

This is exactly the type of work that is necessary to win this election. 124, you see the crowds that are lining there. 280 first-time voters. You see Kamala Harris is already dealing from not a great place right now. This is the surge that is necessary. And let me tell you right now, if these college kids who have never voted before can get their ballot in a box, if these college kids can get out and get their friends to go vote, by the way, this is not a rock concert line. This is a line to go vote.

To go submit your ballot and then to be able to go into BYOB. This is not to go see Taylor Swift. This is not to go see the Arizona Cardinals. No, no, no. There's something profound happening here. And I want to reemphasize the point. It's easy to get lost in all these videos and pictures that I've shown you before. What is more important to understand, this is real votes, everybody. This is not polls.

This is not even voter registration. These are now banked, secured votes for Donald J. Trump. And mind you, these are voters that may or may not have showed up if you just have one day of voting. You have one day of voting, college kids, they might sleep in late, they might forget. No, no, no. Turning point action is getting their ballots into the system. Because remember, this election will be won or lost, not on who wins the debate. We've already won the debate. We win on every issue except abortion. No, this issue will be won or lost.

Based on who is able to mobilize our voters and get their ballots into the system. Now let me tell you some other good news. Can we please show the picture of our event last night at the Omni Hotel? This is what's also very promising. So last evening we hosted all these events and we had Donald Trump Jr.

At several events, one of which was at the Omni. And this was not necessarily a student-focused event, nor did we plan it to be. But there was about half students, half regular everyday adult patriots. And it was both encouraging but also motivating.

But not surprising. So let me just set the context. We are currently beating Democrats in early voting in Arizona. Now that's going to taper. It's going to taper. I'm going to say right now, it's going to taper. It's going to go down. It's going to tighten. So get ready for that. But we're beating them in early voting. So we had this event at the Omni Hotel.

And I was not sure what to expect right there. And I asked the audience, raise your hand if you have voted yet. And I would say 10% of the room raised their hand. Now, mind you, that is motivating because we got to get them out to the polls. But this is these are high, high propensity voters. These are people that are they will crawl over glass to go vote for Trump. What I'm getting at, though, is that if we're beating the Democrats already, we're

In early voting, what that sample size showed me at the Omni Hotel is that our best and most reliable voters haven't engaged yet. And that is very, very encouraging. Said otherwise, what Turning Point Action is doing in Arizona to get out the vote of low propensity voters means that we are now encouraging

We're competing and beating Democrats in early voting with people that otherwise may not have showed up at all. And our best voters have not even dipped a toe into this election yet. What do I mean by best voters? These are the people that will wait five hours in a rally line. They'll donate money. They'll put $10. They'll buy the MAGA hat. These are the five out of four propensity voters. You watch this program. You're a high propensity voter. And I ask, how many of you voted? I thought maybe half the hands would go up. I would say only half.

10% of the hands go up. That means that the high propensity Calvary is coming if we can close the deal with low propensity voters. The high propensity Calvary has not even begun to engage yet. In Arizona right now, Republicans, 72,000 of which have voted early, Democrats, 53,000 have voted early, and then 10,000 independent or nonpartisan.

That means that, and by the way, we have chased over 10,000 early low propensity ballots in just the first week of early voting. That means 14% of all Republican ballots submitted so far were because of turning point action ballot chasers and those videos that you saw. But we must accelerate the surge. By the way, just so you understand, 40% of all Arizona households don't even have their ballots yet. I don't either.

We have plenty of dry powder left. We have to go find every low propensity voter during early month and bank our votes to save the country.

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There's so much meat on the bone, and what we have to do is to keep on driving out new voters to the polls. Yesterday was the first day of voting in North Carolina. Of course, North Carolina was flooded terribly, especially in western North Carolina. North Carolina has had a very, very difficult couple weeks and has been abandoned by FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In western North Carolina, despite homes being destroyed,

Despite widespread and mass flooding, we saw that some of the counties that performed the highest in turnout yesterday in North Carolina were those that were most significantly affected by the flooding. That was the most significant affected by the flooding were the ones that were most willing to go and vote. You see, this is a survival event.

This is a question of survival right now on the ground in the great state of North Carolina. We're seeing similar trends in Georgia. You see long lines of early voting in North Carolina. You see this surge that we are seeing is the pent up demand of the patriotic core and backbone of America that want to save it.

But it's going to require every single one of us to continue to do the work. It's 18 days of work remaining. 18 days of getting our circle out to vote. Let's get this up here, by the way. This is the early voting map in Georgia, which is very similar. The early voting map in Georgia. The reddest colors on this show that they are the hottest of the performing counties. Do you see how little blue there is?

Hot as a pistol. The rural counties in Georgia that have a lot of population, by the way, are roaring. Georgia is a beast of a state, a beast of a state. But the work must continue. I want you guys to know right now that the deadline to register to vote in Pennsylvania is October 21st. You have four days left to register in the great state of Pennsylvania.

North Carolina, early voting so far is this. Gaston County, which is a typical Democrat party, a county was down 10% in turnout yesterday, up 7% for Republicans.

Brunswick, which is a traditional Democrat county, down 10% from Democrats, 9% for Republicans. New Hanover, another Democrat county, down 4% for Democrats, up 3.5% for Republicans. Wake County, down 11% for Democrats, up 5% for Republicans. Guilford County, down 18% for Democrats, up 10% for Republicans. Durham, down 7% for Democrats, 2.5% for Republicans. Now, mind you, this is urbanization.

Early, early, early. And it means nothing if we don't sustain it. It means nothing. Now, this is real empirical data. These are polls that count. This is not Quinnipiac or New York Times, Siena. If we sustain this surge, we have them on defense right now. But it means nothing. It means absolutely nothing if we do not continue it.

Let's play a piece of tape here of ABC News. 59% of Americans believe the economy is getting worse. Play cut four. Some 59% of Americans say they believe the economy is getting worse compared to just 23% who say it's getting better, with more Americans trusting Trump to handle the economy if he wins a second term. You see, on the fundamental and core issues...

We're winning. This is no longer a persuasion election. This is going to be about who can dig deeper. Who wants it? You know, famously, you'll see football teams put up the number four. Fourth quarter. That is it right now. You are in the middle of fourth quarter. I know people are fatigued. I know you are exhausted.

I know that it is wearing a lot of you down and say, when will this be over? It's over when we win and they lose. And we have Tom Brady with the ball. We got Michael Jordan with the ball. We got the best closers in the history of politics.

This weekend, we have events all across the country. We have dozens of super chase events, not just events. We are going to be contacting personally tens of thousands of low prop voters. And this weekend, it is our goal in just Arizona to chase thousands of low prop votes. You can all do the same. This is the participant election, not the spectator election. In 2020, you might have just looked at things from afar. 2016. So where does it start? Owning your circle. Nieces, nephews, kids, grandkids, neighbors, friends.

Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, welders, people you know. Write down 10 of those names this weekend and own them. Be responsible for them. Send a couple text messages.

Hey, have you voted? Can I help you? Can I drive you to the polls? Do you have any questions about it? 18 days. There's 18 days of voting remaining. Every day you should be chasing ballots. Own your circle. Find your 10. This weekend, work on it. Again, I'm not asking you guys to go storm Normandy Beach. I'm just saying very simple, very precisely, who are the 10 people in your life that you could have an impact in? Obviously your wife, kids, your grandkids, nieces, nephews, in-laws, grandparents.

Have those conversations this weekend, guys, and then send out the text messages. Okay, joining us now is Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch and author of Rights and Freedoms in Peril. Tom, welcome back to the program. Great to see you. Hey, Charlie. Good to be with you again. How are you? I'm good. We're in the trenches fighting every day. Tell us about your new book, Tom. Yeah, Rights and Freedoms in Peril is out this week. It's a book America needs, and frankly, Americans need to read before the election because we talk about

many of the issues at stake during this election. So it's educational in that regard.

And I'm nervous about the election, how it's going to be run, whether it's going to be honestly run. And this book details the secrets they don't want you to know about what happened in 2020 and how those fundamental issues that compromise the 2020 election may still emerge in 2024 and what can be done about it. Things can be done about it. And the left is completely opposed to it.

And I'm I'm I despair in the sense of how little needs to be done to fix elections. But also I'm hopeful because so little needs to be done to make elections so much cleaner. Yes. So let's let's talk about that. Just have there have there been any.

improvements that you guys at Judicial Watch have been able to achieve on voter integrity since 2020? Oh, you betcha. It's just the last year and a half, two years, Judicial Watch's litigation cleaned up four million dirty names from the rolls, meaning people who shouldn't be on the rolls.

It's a huge amount. And we're in court still in Illinois and California to clean up the rolls. We may sue in Oregon, frankly, any minute. They've got the dirtiest rolls in the nation, as best I can tell. So the Justice Department, of course, has been AWOL on this because they don't want the rolls to be clean. They're run by Democrats and they have an interest in dirty voting rolls because dirty voting rolls

provide a pool of voters that fraudsters can use to vote. And so we've been alone in doing this heavy lifting. And, you know, you see in the news just in the last week, the Justice Department, rather than cleaning up the rolls, comes in, abuses the law to sue Virginia to tell them that federal law requires them to keep noncitizens on the rolls. This is extraordinary stuff. I do want to emphasize one thing, everybody.

which is voter rolls sounds wonky. Okay, voter rolls. Voter rolls is without a doubt the most important legal fight because dirty voter rolls is the original sin in erroneous mail-in ballots being received and then mail-in ballots then being counted. And this is what's very important.

is that if someone is just looking at the ballot tabulation from the time the ballots are received at its final point of contact, they'll say, oh, these are all real ballots. There's no voter fraud. But hold on. They might be legitimately processed ballots, but illegitimately sent out in the sense that they're being sent out to people that have moved, that have died, that are two or three times registered. Can you walk through that? How dirty voter rolls are the original sin of broken elections?

You highlight when you have mass mailing of ballots and you have voters who shouldn't be there, there's a good chance voters who have moved away or are dead are going to get ballots in the mail. Or there's a chance because the names have been old and people know and fraudsters track this, you know, the parties track this.

It's available to everyone who's voted recently, who's likely moved away. And just because you're inactive and haven't voted for a long time,

you're still on the registration list and votes can be made in your name. So if there's no voter ID, or as you point out, the balloting takes place away from the voting place, meaning unsupervised voting through the mail, it's much easier to get away with fraud voting in someone else's name. And we don't have to prove whether it happens or not. That's the risk. And that's

And that's why the law requires the states take reasonable steps to clean up the rolls. The left doesn't want to do anything reasonable to curtail voter fraud or the concern that Americans have that, what do you mean you're not taking dead people off the rolls? Are you expecting us to believe the election is going to be honest if that's the case?

They don't want to clean them up. And as I said, the Justice Department and the left fight us. Well, in this case, the left fights us tooth and nail. All these Soros operations, all these Mark Elias type groups are coming in and trying to stop us from cleaning up the rolls. And on top of it, the other big issue, I think this year, Charlie, and I'd be interested in your views on this, is the counting of ballots after election day. I don't think it should happen at all.

in the least, counting ballots that arrive after Election Day is anathema. And the federal law sets an Election Day, taking ballots in after Election Day and counting them is obviously contrary to law. But 18, 19 states do it. We have a big case in Mississippi. They count ballots that arrive for five days after election.

In Illinois, they allow ballots to come in for up to two weeks after election day. California, it's seven days. And you know, those states, you may say, may not impact presidential campaigns, but they certainly impact other campaigns as well. Plus, it undermines voter confidence. Counting ballots after election day invites voter fraud, undermines voter confidence, and I would argue is illegal.

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The voter confidence is what I want to emphasize because there's so much sneakery that happens here. But, you know, in my home state of Arizona here, it takes a week and a half for us to get a final tally. And therefore, an independent observer is just begging the question, what is going on here?

And here's the issue. Arizona does have early canvassing, so they're able to early camp and they still can't get all the votes counted on election night. Tom, they still can't because this is how screwed up our system is, is that they allow. It's not screwed up. That's purposeful, don't you think? Yeah, I mean, is it a capacity?

It seems as if there is a goal towards chaos that, again, I independently am saying it's screwed up just from analyzing it. But it's no, I hear you. But no, but again, it's the question of is it fixed or is it fixed? Right. So it's the fixed can be have two different words. So so they've structured the voting process in places like Arizona or up in Philadelphia and Pennsylvania to make it easier to steal the election if need be.

So if you normalize the counting of ballots after election day, boy, that sure makes it easier for fraudsters to come in and manipulate the outcome. And I don't care if voters get nervous about it because it's all about winning.

And, you know, I've seen three or four stories in the Washington Post. CBS News was pushing this garbage out as well. Oh, we won't know who won on election night. Remember, in 2020, Pennsylvania took four days to count their ballots. Well, that's not right. It's not legal. And it ought to be not normal nor accepted. And I tell you, if President Trump doesn't have in 2020, he had the votes to win on election night.

Right. And that result was changed as a result of unprecedented, I would argue, unlawful counting that occurred for days after Election Day. And I tell you, if we don't know who won on election night, I think it's going to be very unpleasant in terms of what the outcomes are in terms of voter confidence.

Look, here's the reality, though. We're not doing this to demoralize you. In fact, we're trying to tell you that because of Judicial Watch that rolls have been cleaned up. We do outnumber them. And this should motivate you even more to go and vote. But we want to make sure you guys understand the terrain. And I think our audience understands that. Let's play Governor Youngkin here from Virginia. Play cut 142. That bill was signed in 2006, and it requires us to use DMV data.

where people self-identify as non-citizens to then go through a process of removing them from the voter rolls if they're on the voter rolls. And guess what? That's exactly what we've been doing. It's been happening for 18 years. Democrat governors, even Terry McAuliffe and Ralph Northam, use this process all the way up through into October.

And that's exactly what we're doing in Virginia today is someone walks into the DMV. They identify themselves as a non-citizen. Somehow or another, either by accident or by purpose, they register to vote. They're on the voter roll. We go through a process of notifying the registrar that they need to be told that if they cannot affirm their citizenship in 14 days, they're taken off the voter roll.

Tom, help us understand all that. So what the government's saying is that you can't have a systemic process or systematic process to remove entire swaths of people from the rolls 90 days out of an election. And what Governor Youngkin is saying, we're not doing that. We're just taking names, name by name. If someone, if there's an indicator the person's not registered legally because they're a non-citizen, we follow up and make sure they're not on the rolls.

This is the first time that, as best I can tell, that that law to require the cleanup of rolls has been used to make sure states don't remove non-citizens from the rolls. And I tell you what's going on over at the Justice Department. There are hacks. You know, I have colleagues here in our election law

um, department, our litigation department who've worked there. They will tell you that the Justice Department Civil Rights Division, the Election Integrity Division, as folks popularly know it, are left-wing partisan Democrats. And this is a left-wing partisan Democrat move designed not only to stop Virginia from

from removing non-citizens from the rolls, but it sends a signal to every other election official in the country, you start taking names off the rolls who obviously are not supposed to be there legally because they're non-citizens, we're going to come after you. And if that's not a signal as to what the left wants to happen, which is to make it easier for non-citizens to vote illegally in our elections, that's where the DOJ...

And three weeks out of the election. Just so we're clear, the federal government is actively suing to keep illegals on the voter rolls. That is treason. That's right. This is as bad as the Fed suing Texas when it tried to protect its own border. Kamala Harris is an active participant in betraying the United States of America. Tom, tell us more about your book and the lack of justice towards the corruption within the federal government, especially last couple of years.

You know, we've had this terrible abuse of power under the Biden administration. Of course, it continued the deep state abuses under the Trump administration, largely targeting Trump. But it really, truly metastasized under Biden with the lawfare against Trump. And it's not just Trump. It's other innocent American citizens. The FBI was sent to my house to issue me a subpoena, deliver a subpoena to me.

on judicial watches, activities, holding the Justice Department accountable for attacking Trump, abusing Trump. And they harassed me for hours, Jack Smith's team, before a grand jury, arguing with me about politics. As I've joked, it was like being at an MSNBC panel for four hours. Of course, that pales in comparison to what they've done

to Trump. And my view is the election has already been compromised by this attack on Trump, this lawfare. Now, will it be enough to change the result in a way that people reject? I don't know. But let's not be naive that this has been about election rigging as much as the excuse they've been using that they're seeking to hold Trump accountable over anything he did wrong in 2020.

which in point in fact, he did nothing wrong. He acted perfectly appropriately. So this is a real crisis for our Republic because if we start jailing former presidents and political opponents at the drop of a hat, which is what the Biden-Harris people seemingly wanna do now, that's the end of our Republic as far as I'm concerned. It's not just Trump. Now we see recently, Charlie, they're going after Elon Musk. They've gone after party officials in the various swing states.

I mean, I'm sure you've seen it where some of the folks you might have worked with in 2020 you can't work with this year because they're facing criminal and civil prostitution. Of course, and the normalization of this, Tom, when I talk to liberals both on campus and off, they'll say, oh, it's just because they commit crimes. I mean, this is the third world we're entering, Tom. These folks are being targeted because they disputed an election under law, as has been done since the beginning of our country. And so...

That's been the challenge, again, that Trump's campaign has faced in 2024. And there's got to be some accountability for it. And assuming Trump wins, if he does win, I'd recommend he conduct and demand a criminal investigation of what went on in terms of targeting him and these other innocents in the several states.

the abuse of power, the targeting of individuals, depriving them of their civil rights under color of law. It's happening right now here in Washington, D.C., with Jack Smith. So, yeah, the Jack Smith thing is, I mean, if Trump were to win, he can disassemble all of that. Is that correct? He can. But, you know, it's not going to stop unless there's accountability.

I mean, the deep state isn't going to stop. I mean, the challenge, and I think what's important about getting this book, Rights and Freedoms in Peril, is that the issues we're talking about don't go away on election day. The left isn't going to stop trying to destroy Trump and engage in lawfare. The left isn't going to stop with open borders. The left isn't going to stop trying to destroy elections, let alone election integrity. They want to end elections. The left isn't going to stop

pushing forward their effort to destroy America through racial division and strife. All of these issues are going to remain a challenge no matter who is president. And in fact, the challenges might change and increase even if Trump wins, given the recent insanity

of the left that's been largely taken over by a communist or folks who agree with the communist approach to their political opponents, jail them and censor them. Tom Fitton, thank you so much. Check out Tom's new book. And Tom, you're a great patriot. Thank you. On that happy note. Thank you, Charlie. Yeah, very uplifting. Thank you.

Find the people in your circle that have not yet voted and get them to vote. In fact, I'm just getting reports here from our ballot chasers. Just got a couple in the last couple of seconds. Boom. Been working with this family. They recently moved from California. Her son is voting for the first time. He's excited to vote for Donald Trump and drop his ballot off this morning. Boom.

Ballots are still arriving all across the state of Arizona. Pennsylvania voter registration deadline is up and coming. There's early voting now active in Georgia and North Carolina. Go and vote. Get a plan to do it. Bring a friend. Bring two friends. And once you vote, it's not over, everybody. You have to continue to do the work.

We have 18 days of Election Day, 18 election days left till the counting begins. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.