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We got our co-host here, producer Blake. Blake, how we doing? We're doing great, Charlie. So this is a, so Blake counts the counties he's been to all across the country. I don't know if you know this. This is a new county for you? Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Blaine County, I believe. Is that right?
And so you've been to other parts of Idaho, so now Blaine County is in your county. We have Ada County, Blaine County. I might not have come if this was in Boise. No, that's right. So we're honored to be here. We are at an undisclosed location in Blaine County. And we are here a couple weeks before all the plutocrats and the oligarchs come to this
part of the world. But we are here with some great folks, lots to talk about here today. We also have some great guests. We have Cleta Mitchell, we have Steve Moore, and then also we have Senator J.D. Vance as we also bring up more guests here. So let's get into the breaking news of the day. Blake, what is going on with Julian Assange? This is a story that has been kind of
below the radar for a couple of years. He's been called a traitor by our intel agencies. He's been called a threat to the West. And now all of a sudden there's a plea deal. What's going on here? Yeah, this just came totally out of the blue late last night. U.S.
prosecutors who charged Assange with all of these Espionage Act violations. That's why he was in prison in Britain for the last five years battling extradition. They suddenly announced, we're happy to reach a plea deal with you and then you'll be free to go. He'll basically plead guilty to one charge of
obtaining classified intelligence, national security information. Part of what's weird is to plead guilty, he has to go to a court in the Northern Mariana Islands. So where is that? You're the geography expert. That's the islands we own in the Central Pacific, north of Guam. It's like Saipan. I think I'll have to go to Saipan. North of Guam. Yes. So he was in London.
Yeah. And has to go into the island. So why not Los Angeles? Why is he going to the Mariana Island? You know, it's not clear why they did that. It might be that Assange, he felt more confident that they wouldn't, you know, spring a trap and just arrest him and take him away to federal prison and say the deal is revoked if it's on this outer island. But...
That's not really the case. They could still do that. So it might be that it doesn't matter, but he thinks it matters. But it's not clear. It's also close to Australia. And so he seems like he'll go to Australia after this. That's where he's from. But as you say, the wild thing about this is just they...
For a decade, they've been obsessed with bringing down Assange. They blame him for all these bad things. And remember, the reason why they really hate Assange is not because of his journalism or leaking. They hate Assange because they blame him for Hillary Clinton not becoming president in 2016 because of all the WikiLeaks and the phishing attack with John Podesta. And I never had strong opinions about Julian Assange, but the more I learn about the intel agencies and how they have lied, they lied about the origins of COVID,
They lied about the Hunter Biden laptop. They lied about Donald Trump and the Russiagate. I actually have more sympathy for Julian Assange when I say if he's exposing the intel agencies, I think it's a good thing that the American people know that the Central Intelligence Agency is not worthy of trust.
Do you not want to know about all those things that the DNC was saying behind closed doors? It's thanks to him we know. That debate questions, by the way, were leaked, which is very applicable. Because of Julian Assange, we know that Donna Brazile gave Hillary Clinton debate questions in advance. Exactly. And... Are they doing that this week? Do you guys think that CNN is giving Joe Biden...
Debate questions in advance. Who cares is the better question. You mentioned what they lied about COVID. We just had recently where it comes out that while they were promoting censorship of COVID misinformation in the US, they were also doing the opposite type of COVID attacks in China. They were trying to undermine China's vaccine while they were saying you can't criticize the vaccine in the US. Just...
And they've been on both sides of this. So I think it's not clear whether or not Julian Assange, how you look at him as a hero or not a hero. But I have a lot of sympathy for him because you look at what he's been through. There were assassination attempts against him.
Yeah, we had it came out. I think The Guardian reported a few years ago that I think Mike Pompeo and some other kind of national security apparatchiks were like, can we drone Assange? You know, some of them said that we should try to assassinate him. Yeah. In fact, there's a new report that shows that we should try to kill him.
the the american they still might try to kill him no i mean yeah he's certainly not safe but what exactly was his crime did he put americans at in at risk or in danger that's because that's what people have been saying the original case they would say is back during the iraq war this would be over 15 years ago at this point uh they released internal documents from the u.s military uh i
I think the original thing that made him famous, it was called collateral murder. And it was like a video of some sort of engagement between US troops and Iraqis where some civilians were killed. And the claim was this would put US troops in danger by promoting like hatred of US troops. And I think they had some intelligence stuff where they said this would endanger sources. I don't know there's ever been a case where someone's death or serious injury was directly linked to anything WikiLeaks did. That was always the argument they would make for it. Yeah, and so-
I think that's an important contextual element. However, just speaking more broadly, when I hear that from the intel agencies, they have not earned my trust the last five years. Not at all. And the repeated lies and the repeated use of the American government for political means. I mean, again, I can't, four years ago, we were in the midst of an election and 51 intel experts
signed an open letter saying that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. That was direct election interference. We should never trust what these intel agencies say ever again. Exactly. Until they earn our trust back, if ever. Yeah, everything they make is just trust us. We've got it. Why? Why?
What good thing have you done for America in the last lifetime? Especially and then what they did with Donald, they spied on Donald Trump, Donald Trump's campaign and try to entrap him. So now the Assange thing is a good segue with the debate questions. We have a debate coming up on Thursday. Who's watching the debate?
Every hand's going up for... And again, I, like you, have to watch CNN. I'm not sure how I feel about that. The only time I watch CNN is when I'm in airports. I'm just walking through. I think that CNN's viewership goes in half if they're no longer in airports. So, Blake, what...
could go wrong for Trump or what could go wrong for Biden? Who has the most to lose going into Thursday? Yeah, it's definitely Biden who has the most to lose. I think this is probably the highest stake debate that's actually ever happened for a candidate. The only thing that comes close, I think, is the second Trump-Hillary debate that was right after the Access Hollywood tape. There were some Republicans saying Trump should drop out. He had to nail that one or it might have been over. But this one,
I think the worst case for Biden is he has some sort of freeze up
senior moment, if you will. And if it's bad enough, I think this is the last chance. If you're a Democrat who wants to change the candidate who's on the ticket, this is your last serious chance to do it without Biden just actually dying somehow. Yeah. And I think it's important, though, because this is the earliest debate that we've ever seen. It's a summer debate. Joe Biden asked for this debate. He's the one that said, I want it to be an early debate because he's legitimately behind in all the tracking polls in the internal states.
If Donald Trump does not do well, I think he can recover from that. For sure. I think for Trump, the debate is mostly upside. That if Trump does well, he gets himself well on the way to normalizing, you know, the convicted felon thing. Like we've predicted people will get over the New York case. They'll get over some of them. As time goes. As time goes. And a lot of that is just going to be seeing him on TV, being a serious candidate, talking about policy.
And that gets in their brains that, oh, I'm allowed to vote for this guy. The most likely outcome is a stalemate where both sides says they won and you kind of go back and then, and honestly, that's not the worst thing. If it's a stalemate, because I actually want to run more against Joe Biden than Gretchen Whitmer or Gavin Newsom. I would rather run against Joe Biden, to be perfectly honest with you. And so, you know, Blake, I think that as we go into, I want to get into the kind of the debate prep part.
stuff in a second here. But cutting of the mics, who does that favor? The fact that you can't use the mic without you're being called on. What do you say? I think it definitely favors Trump because first of all, I think it will keep him from, he had a bad habit of interrupting too much in 2020. And I think he'll follow the guidance here and not do that. And it'll be helpful to him. And it increases the risk of Biden having to just talk for two minutes. He'll freeze up.
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And really great folks. And we're here giving a couple speeches today, and we have a lot going on. So we want to get into the debate here, but I want to just remind people back to the debate in 2020. Now, a couple things to remember. Number one is that Donald Trump had COVID during this debate. Remember, he tested for COVID positive the next day or the day after. Number two, incumbent presidents usually do poorly in their first debate. Obama,
Carter, Clinton, and then they usually recover in later debates. Why is that the case? Why do you think that is, Blake?
I have no idea. Maybe it's just the rust. They're the ones busy being president. Their opponent is busy running for president so they can practice more. They're sharper on the campaign trail. Being president is such an artificial environment because you very rarely get pushback. You don't get much pushback. You don't have normal discussions with a lot of people. There's a lot of pro forma discussions.
you know, sort of performance to be president. Yeah, a lot of taking of photos and sitting in lunches. So, and I also think that in 2020, we made a big mistake. We set the expectation super low for Biden because he was in his basement. They pumped him full of drugs and he didn't necessarily do well. But with Trump also interrupting him during that debate, people did not look favorably on that. Now, I watched the debate as a
someone who kind of debates a lot, I didn't think it was as bad as people thought it was, but objectively the ratings did not go well for Trump. Is that fair to say? Yeah, and I knew a lot of people who were at debate parties and they came away disappointed. There was definitely a sense that people thought he would just steamroll Biden and it didn't happen and there was a lot of disappointment. So let's just go back in the clip machine here. This is cut 15. This is back from the debate, Trump-Biden 2020 play cut 15.
You should go out and vote. You're in voting now. Vote and let your senators know how strongly you feel. Vote now. Make sure you, in fact, let people know you're a senator. I'm not going to answer the question. Why would you answer that question? Because the question is, the question is, the question is, will you shut up, man? Listen, who is on your list, Joe? This is so, gentlemen, I think this is so unprecedented. He's going to pack the
We have ended this segment. We're going to move on to the second segment. That was really a productive segment, wasn't it? Keep yapping, man. The people understand you. 47 years, you've done nothing. Which is true, by the way. So those were good points that President Trump was making.
I just think that in a debate, you have to allow your opportunity. It made it so easy for Biden, instead of possibly freezing up, to just go, you're such a child. Like, you just look at him like he's disappointed. I remember another point in the debate. He just sighs and he's like, you're the worst president there's ever been. And that's a weak debate point if he's just saying that. But when it was in response to being interrupted repeatedly, it didn't go well for Trump, I think. So looking towards this Thursday, the mics will be cut. Now, I have a theory about this.
that if one of the candidates, Biden or Trump, try to interrupt the other with their mics not being on, it could actually even look worse. For sure. Imagine what it looks like if you can't even hear what they're saying, but they're trying to yell into a microphone. Yeah, it'll sound like ridiculous and they'll be quiet.
It'll sound like that random guy in the street that's yelling at you and you can't hear what he's saying. But it's an opportunity, too. I can easily imagine a scenario. Biden is older. I mean, you can even tell just that clip. He looks so he sounds so much better than he does now. Oh, my goodness. That's the Biden of old. So imagine Biden is struggling through an answer and kind of losing his train of thought. And then he gets saved by the bell and they're like, they go over to Trump and Trump just goes, he can finish. Let him finish. And I think that'd be amazing if we got that moment. I agree. And
We went through this yesterday, but President Trump, by the way, he's doing robust debate prep, and I think he's going to do very well. But I want to make sure the expectations, my expectation is for a stalemate, that both sides kind of get some shots in and both sides say they win. Okay.
Okay, but the issues that Joe Biden will push is convicted felon, January 6th, COVID, which I think is going to be a sleeper one, also abortion, and then finally dictator on day one threat to democracy. If President Trump can navigate those and then counter with
straight to camera to the American people, who was a better president? What president was the world safer? What president do we actually have a border with? What president was the economy better?
Every single poll shows that 70% of Americans think that Trump was not just a little bit better, but way better in that regard. That is the case he has to keep on bringing back to there. And talking, Trump needs to come with the facts and not just say that the conviction was necessarily unjust or a fraud, but explain why it was outrageous and say, I think the best talking point he can say is the former attorney general and former governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, who does not like me, says that that case never should have been brought against me.
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Okay, we have Cleta Mitchell here. Cleta is amazing. Cleta, introduce yourself to our audience. Well, I thank you, Charlie. Thanks for having me. It's fun to be with you. I've known you for a long time when Turning Point USA was just a baby organization. It was in the crib and we've, praise God, grown over the last couple of years. You are doing some of the most important work and have been really with precision, really
about election integrity because there's a lot of people in that space. I'm not in that space. I'm very passionate about it. Talk about what you're doing, especially with saying only U.S. citizens should vote. Well, after the 2020 election, I've been, I'm an election lawyer. I've been doing election law, political law for many, many decades. And I was one of President Trump's volunteer attorneys in Georgia in the post-election of 2020.
And that, of course, brought the wrath of the left and that crazy, what do they call it? The Lincoln Project. Those obscene perverts. And that...
They went after me and my law firm, and so I ended up resigning my partnership of 20 years. And they thought they'd vanquished me. And all they did was free me from billable hours so that I could spend 100% of my time, which I have done since February 1st of 2021.
one, working on election integrity. And my having spent all those years around election boards, I've done plenty of time in election board offices all over the country. And I know that all elections are local.
All elections are local and that what we need to do is arm citizens. I wanted to try to take that energy and upset and anger from what happened in 2020 and channel that into something productive. And so I wrote The Citizen's Guide to Building an Election Integrity Infrastructure because that's what we need to combat the very, very well-funded left-wing election infrastructure where they're set about to destroy our election system. And
And to get citizen patriots into the election offices, just like parents in school board offices and that kind of thing. So we've built statewide coalitions. I founded the Election Integrity Network.
And we have coalitions in more than, I think we're up to 28 states now. And we have local task forces. We run national working groups every week, nine different working groups on everything from how to clean voter rolls, how to protect vulnerable voters in nursing homes, et cetera, et cetera. And then, and so that's ongoing. And about a year ago, I decided I needed to form something that was focused strictly on threats for 24.
just targeting threats for 2024. And so I created the Fair Elections Fund, and we have been raising money to give to grants to help support local efforts in key counties, in key states,
And then in January of this year, I realized that we needed to focus on this threat of illegals voting in November because I absolutely believe that that is how they are planning to try to steal the election this year. It's through illegals who are then added to the voter rolls and...
really directed by these left-wing NGOs, non-governmental organizations that are shepherding these migrants all over the country, getting them IDs, getting them housing, handing them tax-paid phone cards and food cards and getting them on the voter rolls. So much there.
So first, I want to go into the left wing. What is the budget, if you were to approximate, of the left wing infrastructure to make our elections less secure? The Mark Elias beast. Oh, my. Well.
Well, let me say this. The Capital Research Center has estimated based on they have they've really been tracking the left. They have something called Influence Watch. If you're not familiar with it, it's terrific. You really need they mapped the left and they've had a particular focus on the myriad hundreds and hundreds of left wing organizations that focus strictly on some aspect of the election process and
Their estimate, and this was a year or two ago, I don't know that they've updated it since then, but their estimate is that between around 2012 and 2020,
that the left had raised and spent between 11 and $14 billion on election matters. - And this is 501 and 501 money primarily. - Mostly C3. - Mostly C3. - This is important. So for those of you that have charitable foundations, donor advised funds,
The left, they put this through tax-deductible donations to change our elections. Now, what would you say the right has spent on election integrity in that time period? Oh my gosh. Well, probably about 45 cents before 2020. Now, I helped found the first and only election integrity public interest law firm, which we founded in 2014, the Public Interest Legal Foundation. I still chair that. And I say to the...
Hans von Spakovsky from Heritage Foundation, Christian Adams, who's the president general counsel at the Public Interest Legal Foundation. And I say to them, do you remember when there were, you know, we could fit into a phone booth, those of us who cared about election integrity. And for you young people, we used to have things called phone booths and you would go and make a phone call and put a quarter in. And they were small. And they were small.
And so we don't have this anymore. But, you know, even since 2020, I would say, you know, if we if we spend if we spent 10 million, 10 to 12 million dollars since then, that would probably be about right. So I just hope everyone understands the economy of scale here. On one side, you have a 10 to 15 billion dollars. On the other side, you barely even have one percent of it. Right.
And because election integrity has never been a priority in the conservative circles. And also our side doesn't really understand the 501c3, 501c4. That's a whole separate conversation for a different time. But let's now get into the applicable because you're going about solving this. So if you were to approximate how many illegals, foreign citizens are currently either on the voting rolls, receiving ballots or voting, what does your research show?
I don't think we know the answer to that question, Charlie. Here's the reason. Our election laws are so porous that getting on the voter rolls is so easy. And you have states all over the country that have adopted same-day registration and automatic voter registration so that you go to the DMV to get your driver's license. And remember, non-citizens...
are all allowed to get driver's licenses. And 19 states have now, based on a push from the ACLU, there are 19 states that now give driver's licenses to illegals. Including Texas. Including Texas. And so one of the things that happens, well, the federal law says that nobody can go on the voter rolls until they have had their identity and their residency confirmed.
Well, that's by giving your driver's license number or the last four digits of your social security number. Well, guess what? You don't have to be a citizen to get a driver's license and you don't have to be a citizen to get a social security number. And that's one of the, those are the two checks. But the problem is that law was passed by Congress 22 years ago and that no one dreamed at the time that you, there would ever come a day in the United States of America where you had a
The Census Bureau estimates over 22 million illegals and non-citizens living in this country. So in Arizona, it might be performative, but it's the only state that says non-citizens can't vote or can't. Is that correct? It said in, no, in Arizona, poor Arizona, they've been trying for 20 years to get it done.
to try to get this done. It's a wacky place. It is a wacky place. But the law says that before a person can register to vote in Arizona, this is what the state law says. They have to provide documentary proof of citizenship. You're not going to be allowed to register to vote unless you provide documentary proof of citizenship.
Well, that case went to the U.S. Supreme Court in 2013. And because there is a federal law that was passed Bill Clinton's top priority, number one bill when he became president in 1993, the National Voter Registration Act requires every state to accept and use the federal voter registration form. And so Arizona said, if we have to use this form,
then we want to be able to put our state's requirements on this form so that we don't have to just accept a checkbox. Yes, I'm a citizen, which is what the form has. And the Supreme Court, in an opinion authored by Justice Scalia, said Congress didn't require that. The state can't just add it and neither can the Election Assistance Commission. So guess what exists in Arizona that doesn't exist in any other states?
They have two voter rolls. One is the state voter roll for people who have provided proof of citizenship. The other is the federal-only voter rolls. And guess what?
Those are the people that get the ballots for president, Congress, and the United States Senate. They're the people who did not provide proof of citizenship. So go think about that for a moment. I just want, you're a very smart audience, everybody listening in the audience here. When you have foreigners that can determine your leaders, you no longer have a country. It's just the country doesn't, by definition. What are the action items? Talk about your group. What is the solution? Go to www.council.
OnlyCitizensVoteCoalition.com. Sign up. We have a whole toolkit. The only way we're going to be able to stop this is by having citizen action, looking at the DMVs, looking at the voter rolls in your county, looking at the voter rolls, watching and basically creating a national neighborhood watch to try to find these pockets of non-citizens that are getting added to the rolls. And your group is going after this? Yes. And is it mostly in the counties and states?
All over. All over. All over. If you were to say, what is the, we're the worst offenders. Wisconsin is really terrible. Wisconsin is really terrible. And just everyone, I don't, you're a C3, C4. C3. Yeah, so I could say this. I'm going to,
Foreigners or illegals, they vote like 85% Democrat. We know what's going on here, guys. Okay. So, Cleta, is it impossible to hypothesize the reason they've kept the border open is to potentially benefit themselves politically? That's exactly why they've kept the border open. There's no other explanation for wrecking the country. It's for political power. The real question is why have Republicans let them do that?
Good question. That is the question that makes no sense. Cleta, you're amazing. Say the website one more time. www.onlycitizensvotecoalition.com. Go sign up. Get busy in your neighborhoods because it's coming to a neighborhood near you. I want our whole audience to go to that website right now that's watching. Thank you.
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So we started a couple of years ago. We've been growing. We have three major programs a year, and we make a lot of our programming free to the community so that families can bring their kids. They can bring their neighbors. They can bring guests and residents who come and visitors who come to Sun Valley. We have...
major program this summer that we've launched called the Sun Valley 2024 Summer Institute, which is all about learning about our common values. And we've brought in Steve Moore last night who knocked it out of the park on the economy and Cleta Mitchell talking about election integrity.
Our whole idea is just to give people the fundamental end of pinnings to have conversations with their neighbors and their family members and then spread that out through their networks throughout the country. I love it. And as I mentioned, you are a nice contrast to the worldview that the oligarchs bring in. That's part of the conversation. That's how I always knew about Sun Valley is just all the tech giants that come here and
when you say constitutional fidelity, they could use some of that. - They sure could. And you know what's interesting about that is that I think that next year we're gonna be bringing program around major sector ideas like energy security, climate, but understanding what's the free market version of that? What does it look like when you have policies that involve less government, that is not heavily regulated? How can we flourish as a country?
And have great policy, great ideas, and implement those with new leadership through the private sector and private markets. I love that. Let's talk more broadly about Idaho. They say Idaho is the reddest state in the country. Could be. It could be. It's 80% probably red. So why is it that you don't have the most conservative leaders?
You know, it's a great question. I've been asked that a lot. We have incredible on-the-ground local leadership. The best. The grassroots in Idaho are the best in the country. They are. They're on fire and they're really active. In fact, one of the things I love about Blaine County is that as a result of us starting to convene in the last three years, as a result of the last couple of elections,
People are getting engaged and involved. I've seen so many of our friends who've supported and been part of this programming now are on the ground. They've run for office. They're precinct captains. They are engaged and they've gone to the state conventions. They are doing everything they can to help really make
to help bring sound leadership to not only our area, but throughout the state. We'll see that change over the next couple of years, I think. Can you talk about the grassroots of Idaho? They're some of the hardest working, faithful, liberty-loving people in the whole country.
And I visit Idaho a couple times a year because of it. Brag on the grassroots of Idaho. It's incredible. They are. Well, they're generational. They're generational hardworking. Their kids work hard. Everyone I know, anyone I work with actually has other jobs where they're... I mean, when I get on the phone with a county commissioner, he's on a tractor. He's running cattle. He's doing all kinds of things before they even get up in the morning and then go to work to do something for their community and their town.
The one thing I love about Sun Valley that's different than other major mountain resorts like Jackson, Aspen, Vail, Sun Valley, the leadership here is generational in terms of families. Families here in Sun Valley, as I say, they built things and they employ people.
It's not that way in other resort towns. These are people who know what it's like to run a business, be successful and have generational success. Is it fair to say, you know, in Arizona, we say, don't California, my Arizona. Are you guys going to have billboards that say, don't Aspen, my Sun Valley? Is that right? I like that. I like that. We call, you know, I'll sort of refrain from what we call everybody entering our state. No, that's okay. And there is a...
I already feel more at home here. I was joking with the great audience we have here. I said, I feel like Aspen. They said, this is not Aspen. So, you know, I kind of like this place here. Hey, everybody goes around eight or nine o'clock here because we want to be up in the morning. Enjoy the gorgeous, glorious weather. Those are my type of people. At sunrise. We are not late nighters. Our club shut down, even though I will give a shout out. Your club shut down? Yeah, we do. Even though I will.
- We'll give a shout out. - Aspen keeps opening these degenerate places. - Whiskey's on Main is a great spot. In fact, that hosts our Town Hall 208s on a regular basis, which is open and free to the public. We have great programming and Whiskey's does stay up late, but that is our great honky tonk that delivers life. - It's a great topic
that we could talk about another time, which is, and for the national audience to understand, these slivers of heaven that God have given us in America have been polluted by the worst people on the planet because they've destroyed San Francisco. So they use all their money to go then vacation in Aspen and Vail. And in Sun Valley, you guys are holding the line. I love that. And that is a very, very important topic. God bless you guys. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.
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