Ask Charlie Anything 203: Biden's Tesla Chargers? Dealing With Haters? Voting in Blue States?
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Blake is with us by legendary fame. You know, Blake, it's amazing how many people come up to me and they say, Charlie, I love the show. And Blake is so smart. You know, you're kind of like a whole thing. I will admit I'm getting used to this. But when I was coming into the office today, we had two of our volunteers who they just parked and they were asking where to go. And then they recognized me and they're like, oh, Blake.

Blake, we're fans. Can we get a photo? I'm not used to this. It happens to you a lot. It does not happen to me a lot, but it's a lot of fun. Mission accomplished, everybody. Okay, we will get to Roman history trivia. Not yet. Brought to you by Hillsdale College in the second segment. Okay? So we will quiz Blake on Roman history. Reputation is on the line. It is brought to you by charlieforhillsdale.com. That is charlieforhillsdale.com.

All right, let's go to one of our... Okay, all the questions this hour are members only. Members only. First, there is a question I think Daisy wants us to answer. Charlie, what is your perspective on repeal or reform of Section 230? Blake, remind our audience, Section 230 is about the Communications Decency Act, if I remember correctly, which regulates speech, whether or not it's a utility or a publisher. Yeah, and it essentially says that...

It's kind of a liability shield for some web companies. And it basically says if you have...

Like you can't be liable for things like I think like defamation, for example, if you're merely like a publisher that has content from other people. So like a newspaper is liable for defamation if they print an article that defames somebody because you are largely responsible for what you put in that newspaper. But this was more like, OK, if you have a website, it's like a bulletin board and you're not liable for defamation if your bulletin board has something defamatory posted on it.

And I, man, I used to know way more about this because it was a big talking point in 2017. And we talked about it on Tucker. And I know that it was platform versus publisher. It was platform versus publisher. And I know that a facet of Section 230 was that basically since they were saying we're not publishers, we can do like lots of censorship stuff. And I think that's what it was.

So, again, we'll have to refresh ourselves. But from what I understand, Section 230 says that if you get platform status, you cannot be sued for defamation or libel like a publisher is. Yes. So you're not treated like the New York Times because you're inherently a platform, which allows public community conversation, and you are immune from that kind of law. Those are kind of lawsuits, what happens on your platforms.

Okay, Natalie, thank you for being a member. Members.charliekirk.com. Remember, all right, Natalie, have you voted? And what is on your mind? Yeah. Hi, Charlie. I actually just voted yesterday. Boom. Super exciting. It was funny enough. It was the first time I voted. I'm 28. Wow. Yeah, quick backstory. I grew up in Washington and then went over to New York for college and I just...

Little bit of a liberal, saw things very blue. And my dad and I, you know, butted heads a lot because he voted for Trump in 2016 and I didn't really understand it. And then COVID hit and I was like, I'm not getting vaccinated. This doesn't feel right to me. And then one thing led to another. And now here I am voting for Donald Trump and going to a rally in New York on Sunday. Unbelievable. So you live in New York still, Natalie, is that right?

I do. Natalie, just I'm curious before I get to your question. So it was COVID that really brought you on this journey. Is that fair to say? Definitely. Yeah. You know, I grew up, you know, farmer's markets were our grocery stores. We went to natural paths over like normal doctors and

It just didn't really sit right with me. And being at childbearing age, I was like, this is I don't I trust my body. I trust my health. And I think I can get through this if, you know, I do get COVID. And so I didn't do it. I lost a lot of friends over it. But I also made a lot of more friends, you know, where I was able to get a lot of clarity. And that was what led me down my path. I love it. Well, so, Natalie, what is on your mind and what can we answer? Yeah, for sure. So I feel like it's just been really interesting watching Kamala's campaign over the past few weeks.

compared to, you know, when everything started back in July, August. It seems like she's just grasping at straws at this point. And my question is, do you think that this is influencing undecided voters or maybe more independent voters to vote for Trump? And do you have any concerns with her recent, quote, strategy?

claiming that Trump is, quote, Hitler. Yeah, so Blake, I want to get you in on this. What is the thought process of just going back to the Hitler trope? I have a theory, and it's actually not as dismissive as people think. I want your thought, then I'm going to develop mine. Well, it is an interesting pivot. I think we'll find out more, especially if she does lose, which we hope will happen. But I think...

My guess is there's something the campaign has seen, whether it's polling or early vote data, that is telling them,

we're not getting the energy of our core voters out. And, you know, whatever we were doing, it's not working. And they're kind of getting a little desperate. And so they're thinking, we need to up the enthusiasm of our voters. And how do you up the enthusiasm of the left? You terrify them. So you're just going to go fascist, Nazi, Hitler. And you're trying to get those sort of flaky liberal voters to get like scared so that they'll go to the polls. And

And we are seeing that. John Ralston, I think is his name. He's a guy in Nevada who is really the guy on Nevada early vote. And he's been pointing out, and this is a liberal guy, by the way, he's been pointing out the one out of four voters, the two out of four voters, the Republicans are turning out noticeably more than the Democrats. And so I think the Democrats are thinking, who are our base voters who are not 100% voting?

We need to start scaring them a bit more and just get our base turnout. Yes. And I think they're just noticing this lack of enthusiasm and that's affecting both their turnout and also probably their get out the vote effort. Maybe they're seeing fewer of the volunteers that they need to close the deal.

And also it's just I think they've seen Kamala, whatever she's doing hasn't been working great. And so it was sort of, you know, throw it deep, hope it works. And as we saw with the CNN thing, it didn't work. I really I was mentioning this yesterday. Mark Halperin, he was commenting on that and he's just saying a lot of Democrats are really defeated after that town hall. It's the realization Kamala is not getting better. This is sort of what we see is what we get. And.

She's getting worse, actually. Yeah, she is. Again, during her at the convention, she kind of had her shtick going. She had a thing where she... She can do a scripted bit. If you tell her to memorize this bit...

Yeah, she can do it. You can train a horse to jump over something. But she doesn't have any ability to think on her feet. And you just really compare that with Trump, where Trump, whatever you think of him... He's about to do Rogan. Yeah, Trump can talk for hours and be compelling and interesting, and he'll be original on things. And...

Kamala, like she can't talk off the cuff because she can't even articulate her policies. Her policies are what her team of smart people give her. So she can recite what David Plouffe says she should say. But Trump can actually come up with a policy. That's right. It's such a big difference. Here's my thought process. Kamala's last strategy is all about women and high prop voters. Abortion rally tonight in Texas, calling Trump Hitler and closing speed out January 6th, trying to reignite the high propensity college educated voters.

And those people vote on election day. Yeah. And their thought is this is maybe a low turnout election overall, lower turnout than 2020 for sure, maybe even lower than 2016. Just get your core 100 percent voters in and hope that's enough. And yeah, she's speaking right now in Texas. Natalie, I hope that answered your question. Thank you for being a member and God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. God bless. All right. Andy, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? And make sure you unmute Andy.

Okay, I saw the button shows up. All right. Hey, how are you? Love your show, guys. Thank you. So Kamala Harris is very proud of this massive infrastructure bill. And a lot of that bill was to add all these EV charging stations across the nation. And recently we rented a car in Southern Illinois and it was a hybrid. So I was excited, boy, we'll just be able to charge this thing everywhere. We found no charging stations. So my question is how much of that dedicated budget

has been spent. I know it was billions and billions for these chargers. And how many EV charging stations are actually operational today? Blake, you have some thoughts here. I Googled it just as he was saying it. And amazingly, the Washington Post, the same place flipping out about not endorsing Kamala, had an article from March. Biden's seven and a half billion dollar investment in EV charging has produced how many stations? Do you want to guess how many stations in two years? Eight.

I was about right. Seven stations in two years. And that's been common with a lot of things. Another thing they were investing in was they were going to do, I think, wireless internet for rural America. That was a big push. And notably, what they could have done is for the amount that they spent on it, they could have just bought like supermarkets.

Starlink for everyone, just give it to Musk and have him do Starlink for the entire country. And yeah, that'd be handing out a ton of money to a private actor, whatever. But instead they spent tens of billions of dollars on it or allocated. And I don't think anyone has service yet. It's just been a total nothing burger. And you could have just, yeah, bought Starlink for everyone. And that's a very common thing with government infrastructure these days is you can blow a

billions and billions of dollars and you'll get nothing. I think California is now on $25 billion or so for their high-speed rail network. That might never get done. It will never get done. I'm just going to tell you, it will never be done. You're convinced? It is California. Where is that money going, though? They spend a lot on... They have to do these environmental reviews and you can truly spend a staggering amount. You end up study after study and all this preparatory work. How long does it take for Japan to build one of these?

Forget Japan. There was a high-speed rail company from France that was consulting on working on the California high-speed rail, and they finally said, this is too dysfunctional. We're going to move to a more functional country, Morocco.

A country in Africa, like a relatively poor country in Africa. And not only was it more functional, that high-speed rail network is up and running now. Like, they got it built in five years. They say the Merced-Bakersfield line will be done in 2029. No way. One, no. Two, who's going to take a high-speed rail train from Bakersfield to Merced? Yeah, I mean, that's like the most random, like...

That was what they did to try to sell it. They were like, oh, the first parts will be built in, you know, middle California. And it's all this sausage making. It goes nowhere. Wait, hold on. It's going to take you six more years to build a train in the Central Valley. Yeah. To places that don't need a train, that don't want to train. You have an uninterrupted highway.

on highway five another since you mentioned japan japan once had to do repairs in a station and they managed like they had to do some sort of overhaul in the station and they did all of it in one night you can watch the video of them doing it it would have taken i mean you've seen the road outside our place it's been under construction since i moved here such a joke it's just it's it's not not good thank you for being a member really appreciate it

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All right, Blake, it's your time to shine. Yes. This has been a great show.

This is brought to you by Hillsdale College. And you've gone through some of these online courses. Pretty impressive, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of fun stuff you can watch. And yeah, it's like free. So we're going to go straight into the quiz. All right. On the founding of Rome. The founding of Rome. Okay. All right. And for the record, you've never seen these questions, right? Oh, man, this is going to be hard. Is that right, Blake? No, I have not. Okay.

This is brought to you by charlieforhillsdale.com. The Roman historian Titus Livy, you familiar? Yeah, yeah, Livy. Believed it was his duty to debunk the legends of Rome's founding and only write history supported by facts and evidence. True or false? Definitely false, Livy. Just like...

He publishes every legend ever. He'll just be like, yeah, you know, this might not be true. So if you read him, you're definitely getting the true Roman Patriots history of Rome. There's like no... He's never going to debunk anything. It's a false statement. According to... This is so impressive. Blake does this without taking the class. Okay, so you take the class, then take the quiz. He does it without... According to the legend preserved by Livy, blank...

is the father of Rome's founders. So like the father of Romulus and Romans, Mars. Okay, so is that your final answer? The god Mars, yeah. I haven't even given you the... The Romans were the sons of Mars, that's what they called themselves. So the god of war. Yes. Okay, question three. After escaping Troy, Aeneas... Aeneas, yeah. Went on to found blank, from which the Romans will ultimately derive. Okay, so he's like the forerunner of Rome, but he doesn't found Rome. I can give you the options, or you want to do it without them?

One of the ones you'll see, there's like two ones you'll see. Can you list them? Maybe there's only one over there. Carthage. Definitely not that. Lavinium. Naples. Or Alba Longa. It has both of them. I've seen Alba Longa and Lavinium. Let's go with Lavinium. Lavinium. Okay.

We won't know until the end of the quiz if you got it right. In order to determine who would rule the city they were founding and who would name it Romulus and Remus blank. Appealed to their grandfather, asked the gods, fought a war against each other, or dueled each other. They asked the gods, so they were like, let's just ask for a sign, and I think it was...

It was something, I can't remember the exact details, but I think it was like Romulus said his hill was, his site was better. And like his name was better because like more birds landed on his hill or something. And then they did fight each other, but I think they're going for, they asked the gods and then they got in a fight and he killed Remus. Before the Roman Republic was founded, Rome had blank kings. Seven kings, seven kings of Rome.

In an attempt to mollify the Sabine women, Romulus promised them blank, a share of the property, citizenship, children, or all of the above. Children is the famous one, but I think they have all of the above. I think they got property, too. And I don't remember citizenship. These are really hard. Pompilius. Yeah, the second king of Rome was known for being... Probably religious, right?

Yeah, pious, unjust, frugal, or warlike. In the Roman legend, he's the guy who invents the entire Roman religion. Any festival they do, it's like, oh, Numa invented that. This is where Titus, again, Livy is making all the legends into... And this is not stuff you know...

super well, right? Yeah, I actually remember this one from listening to the History of Rome podcast a decade ago, and he just summarizes, like, who invented that festival? Numa did it. Who built this temple? Numa did it. Like, Numa just invents the Roman religion. He's the guy who does everything. Sextus Tarquinius...

And his friends argued over whose wife is most virtuous and settled it by what? They did it? Like, they were having a drinking party and were like, whose wives are most virtuous? And so they're like, well, they could just totally be having orgies or whatever while we're not here. We have to play a surprise visit on them, I think is what they do. And then...

There were some who were like doing immoral things and some who were just like being super virtuous. So did they consult the gods, go visit their wives unannounced? Unannounced. Visit unannounced. Got it.

Okay. Sextus Tarquinius overcame the resolute Lucretia by threatening her with what? Ooh, this is a nasty story. The rape of Lucretia. And what he does is he threatens her by saying if she doesn't submit to his advances, he'll kill her and then leave her body. He'll kill a slave and leave it. And then she'll be disgraced. And he'll say that. So disgrace is one of the options. Okay.

He was going to say like... Running low on time. Oh, crap. Got it. Last one. Brutus and Colantinus... Colantinus? Something like that. ...were elected as the first councils of the Roman Republic after leading the overthrow of King Lucius Tarquinius Supus. Yeah, yeah. The Brutus assassinated the last king and they made the Republic. So wait, Brutus killed Julius Caesar and did that? It's his forerunner. This is what they would say is like, your ancestor killed a tyrant. You have to kill a tyrant. Interesting. Interesting.

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Hi. Yeah, I voted. Good. I have. I just got in yesterday. Excellent. How are you and what's on your mind? So how do you respond to criticism and controversy that has surrounded some of your statements and positions? Oh, I don't think I'm controversial at all. What do you think, Andrew? I don't – I mean, look, I tell the truth. I say something that is –

You know, not of my value system. I'll correct it. But I love the criticism. I love when people disagree. It was what makes our country interesting. Well, I have some thoughts on this. Yeah, please, Andrew. So I didn't actually hear the question, Daniel. The question is how do you endure or get through or handle criticism or controversy associated with your comments? My opinion on that is that it's God-given from Charlie. I think God gave him a calling, and I'm very serious about this.

Because most people will get criticized and they will soften their position. They will not say the hard truth out to not offend somebody. Or they'll sort of... And by the way, that can be a good thing if you're trying to win somebody your side or kind of find common ground. There's times for that. I'm not saying there's not. But what Charlie has done over the years is basically just develop the thickest skin. But I think it was a calling from God. And when you unapologetically...

put forth a conservative idea or a faith-based idea, truth about Jesus, whatever it may be, and they come at you with venom or they attack you and you hold your line, what that does is it inspires so many other people to do the same. And then when we do that, when you do that, Charlie, and you clip it and you put it on social media, that is the making of a movement with Backbone.

So you're essentially reforming from the inside out and a whole new generation that's being sort of raised on this approach to have actual backbone and to not back down. And I think we've had a terrible situation within the conservative movement of a bunch of go-along-to-get-along guys that just want to go to the rubber chicken dinners and make friends with everybody and get invited to the parties. That is changing.

Daniel, thank you. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Second Daniel. We got two Daniels in a row. Daniel's a great name, which I think Daniel means who is like God or God is my judge. I think the second one is my judge. God is my judge. God is Michael, I think. Yeah, Michael is who is like God. God is my judge. What is your question and have you voted? Yes, I voted and voted in a pretty blue state.

So my question is, you've been focusing mainly on the swing states. What's the best thing a person in a solid red or a solid blue state can do to help the cause? Well, so can I ask what state you live in and what part of that state? Puget Sound. I went to UW, Daniel.

So I will say, first of all, you live in one of the most beautiful parts of the country when it's not rainy and wet all the time. I went to Washington last winter and it was nothing but fog. I saw nothing. It was the thickest fog I've ever seen in my life. You couldn't see 10 feet. We had to drive at like 20 miles an hour because it was so foggy. Is it windy, too?

I don't think it's a wind. I thought you said wind. I might have misheard you. Midwest is worst. Yeah. So, Daniel, here's what I'd say. By far. I mean, it rains a little bit all the time. It's like a misty rain. You don't get the heavy, really icky stuff that you get. Like, I grew up in Houston and then in Kansas. And like when I came out here, I was expecting it to rain hard all the time. And it's like.

thinky stuff. So there's a lot of answers to this. Blake, what advice do you have for people in blue areas of blue states? And by the way, there's a lot of good people in Washington. I want to make sure that's clear. I mean,

I mean, first of all, I would say, one, it's just always important to vote because you are... I think one of the things that can make blue areas so blue is... We've talked about that preference cascade. It's like the suffocating norm that everyone has to be this way. And once you crack that, you open the way to a very sudden shift in what attitudes are. We saw that in tech. I think just Elon Musk and...

And, you know, David Sachs, a few of those prominent Silicon Valley people saying, wait, this is bull crap. Why is the border open? Why do we have to be lib on everything? They change their attitudes and suddenly you see a lot of people swinging that way. I think we see this like with the Hispanic vote where once you really got it through that way, you don't have to vote for Democrats just because you speak Spanish. And now right now the early vote in Miami-Dade County is Republican right now.

So I think it's really important to have people who now, especially in other things are opening up that you can have the guts to speak publicly. You pave the way for a possible revision in the future.

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Yes, I did. In Arizona. But anyway, in Stillwater Mine in Montana, Michelle's brother works there, they're cutting 40% of their employees in November. And this mine produces palladium, platinum, and byproducts of nickel, copper, and gold. Tiffany Juliolers actually buys all their platinum from Stillwater Mines. But now because Russia is sending so much palladium in that it's shutting down our mines. And palladium is used in the catalytic converters and electric car batteries and stuff like that. So this is a government decision.

we could choose to stop Russia, but instead the government is choosing America last.

And she, my mother-in-law says, how does this make sense? And then the question is, how could the Trump presidency correct this? Blake, what are your thoughts on that? Well, so Trump in general has promised to have more robust trade restrictions. I don't know if he said specifically on things like minerals with Russia, but I think it would be of it would be something he would be interested in to say, like, wait, no, we're not going to let Russia dump minerals on the market.

And I think in the long run, you just need like the U.S. to genuinely treat it as a priority. Oh, wait, we should have things that we do in the U.S. because it's strategically important. We've realized that with chips.

But I think we're also going to realize that with military manufacturing and also just production of basic materials. I think you and I have both heard China owns all like the rare earth metal extraction. It's not because all the rare earths are in China. It's because we regulate them environmentally. They dig them up and we we don't dig them up and we just let our guys flail. And then suddenly, oh, China is the one who makes everything. That's right. And.

What I will say is it's just it's embarrassing how much D.C. has just abdicated the responsibility of seeing that that's important. And I think Trump at least recognizes that. So you'll see a different attitude in the White House that this is a problem to be fixed. Caleb, Michelle, great to see you guys in North Carolina. Thank you for always being a member. We appreciate you guys. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Charlie. OK, who is next? Nathan, Nathan, thank you for being a member. So my question really pertains to personal finance.

I'm a deacon of my church and I see a lot of people come in with benevolent phone requests. And, you know, it seems like a lot of people could use just, you know, financial advice and the financial situation of a lot of people could be improved by personal finance. You know, even in elementary school, starting in elementary school all the way through high school.

Just want to see what your thoughts are on that. Yeah, you know, Andrew has some thoughts on this. Blake, I think, is going to be more sympathetic with me. I actually don't think it's a financial literacy problem. I think there's economic illiteracy. I think it's a values problem. Yeah, I'd say so. I think both. No, it's not. I think it's very... People know to save money. They don't need a class for that. Stop spending on alcohol. Charlie, wouldn't it be so much better if Tim Walls was teaching people about financial literacy? No, I know. I just... It's not... No one ever taught me financial literacy. I just decided to, like, not be poor.

And so I didn't spend money on stupid stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would say there is some stuff. I do think there's a lot of traps out there, and it would be good for people to be aware of those traps. Like what? I think a lot of – you'd be shocked. A lot of people don't know how credit cards work. This is what I'm realizing. I'm telling you. So I've been traveling around with Charlie this week, and I've been having conversations on the side with some of these students.

And I completely agree. It's not just financial illiteracy. It's economic illiteracy. They don't understand the way their system works. I totally agree with that. They don't understand where inflation comes from. They don't understand why it's a bad idea just to give people $20,000 for a home. They don't understand why price fixing and price controls are bad. They think it sounds good that the bad guys are going to get it stuck to them. But why do they think it's a good thing if entrepreneurs and business people –

Get controlled by the government and they can't set their own prices. Well, they've been told values, so they play together, that the values of these people are bad, that they're the fat cats, that they're the bad guys. So they play together, and I think both are true. And I've been talking to Charlie about in the next year, and one of our big things that we need to push, whether it's at the federal level or at local level –

Economic literacy classes are incredibly important because the Democrats are using them to take advantage of young people and essentially get them moving in the wrong political direction because they just fundamentally don't understand the way the world works. Yeah, I will say this. I guess the question about values, let me word it better. Do you think that most people understand, like they value delayed gratification? I find this throughout. Are these people that

are delaying gratification with what they eat and how they exercise. And that all pours over into how you save money. Yeah, for sure. There's like, definitely there's a very wasteful attitude and you'll see like bad justifications for this, right?

where they just feel like there's no hope for the future, so they might as well just buy creature comfort things. No, you 100% can save money. And the amount of things you can take advantage of to save money is...

Is very high and some of it does involve lifestyle compromises like I think I lived in a room of one of my dad's friends from law school for my first year in D.C. at it was OK. That's a beneficial like contact to have that I could live at like a cheaper rate essentially subletting a room in a guy's house. But that is also what a lot of people won't be willing to do.

And I think my main hobby for my first couple of years in D.C. was I rented books for free from the Arlington Public Library. I learned a lot about Napoleon doing that. And, OK, that's like a dorky thing to do, but it is a very cost effective thing to do. And saving money when you are under 25 especially has such huge returns over time. So I want to ask I want to ask Nathan. Nathan, are you still on there online?

Yeah. Nathan, when you examine some of those benevolency requests, by the way, God bless your church for doing that. That's actually what welfare should be. The church should be, because they ask questions and all that. What would you say? Is it people that are making bad financial decisions or financial calamity that they have to receive? Like what is the pattern if there is one? I would say primarily bad financial decisions. Just, yeah, spending or living outside their means.

So, you know, my I could I totally agree with what Andrew said, by the way. I think it's just people growing up with no nobody teaching them anything about religion.

you know, personal finances. And for that reason, they can't, they can't learn, you know, they can't understand, you know, when presidents make certain decisions or in the debates, you know, they don't understand what people are talking about. And so it makes them hard to, you know, vote for those things or, or under, you know, just understanding those concepts is really key. I will concede to you guys because, because I'm sure there's a lot of truth to it, but isn't it remarkable though,

Andrew, we're talking to people that got into college. Oh, no. And some of them are smart, just to be clear. This young woman I was talking to yesterday, she was a very articulate young woman. Her value systems were completely corrupt. I completely agree with that. I mean, they were way off base.

But it's a set, you know, her, you know, she just didn't understand that the things she was arguing for were destructive to the to the country. And actually, you debated one of them. Ultimately, she ended up in line with you. And she was I felt kind of bad for her. She was trembling, shaking like a leaf. But the but the value system and I'm telling you, we need to reinstitute things like home ec.

You know, the things we teach these young people that are of no value and then to completely look past something as basic and fundamental as, you know, we used to call it balancing your checkbook, right? Well, it's like, you know, make sure you have more money than you and make sure you have a plan to save and invest. These things they have no idea about. Sad truth, I suppose. Thank you, guys.

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Okay, Tim. Tim, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie. So our church, we take communion every week, and someone from the church gets to stand up and can kind of offer some meditation thoughts about communion before we pray over the bread and the cup.

And so I'm doing that this Sunday. And my thoughts have been really pretty inspired by a lot of the things I've heard you talking about. One of them, the Bible being a book of distinctions, good and evil life and righteous and unrighteous, that kind of thing. And then your conversations with Seth Gruber, where he's talked about abortion being the devil's sacrament and how the kind of the contrast between, you know,

But for us, Jesus says, this is my body given for you. And then Seth Gruber says, you know, points out that on the left, it's my body, my choice. So kind of comparing and contrasting. That's right. So I wanted to ask kind of as I was thinking about this, one of the things you mentioned a week or two ago is the percentage of abortions that are had by people who say they are Christians. And I couldn't remember the exact number. I was hoping you could refresh my memory on that because it's

You know that there are Christians that do it, but the number was kind of shocking to me. I was wondering if you could refresh my memory on that. Yeah, so I want to make sure. Yeah, okay, this is the study. It was done by the Guttmacher Institute. So mind you, it was 10 years old.

And so we don't have updated numbers. They stopped doing this. The Guttmacher used to be really, really good at this. But then they just stopped doing research because actually we pro-lifers use their data against them. Yeah, it was like I used Guttmacher more than anybody. Yeah, because they were like, oh, actually, 99% of all abortions are not for rape or incest. And they stopped doing that. So here's the number. OK, so 24% of all abortion patients identify as Catholic.

17% identify as mainline Protestant and 13% as evangelical Protestant. So if you scale that out, that is if you add 24 plus 17, about half of all people that get abortions have some affiliation as a Christian. It doesn't surprise me at all. Yeah. And so I can send that to you if that's helpful. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, yeah. And as I was thinking about that, you know, there's there's the verse in Corinthians where it says our body is our is the temple of the Holy Spirit. It's the temple of God. If we're Christians and the Thaimis like Christians are committing murder of an innocent life inside the temple of God. And I just that was just kind of jarring to me that they kind of put it in that context. Well, it's very jarring and understand that very few pastors are instructing their congregation that it's wrong to do that.

And then you get that. So thank you so much. God bless you. Thank you. Thanks, Charlie. Okay. Jeff, is that correct? Yeah. Jeff, thank you for being a member. What's on your mind? Hey, can you hear me? Yes, Jeff. What's up? What's on your mind? Yeah. First time caller, long time listener. Got a member this past week. Thank you. Welcome. Really very excited. Got my kids to...

sign up and register and vote and they voted and it's their first time to vote. Love it. What state? Well, it is Texas. We're red. That's important. That's more important than anything. Run up the score, right? We've got some pastors in the area that have lately, recently on Sundays have

While well-intentioned, I think, on the message, they basically paint both sides as not necessarily of the highest character. And Republicans and Democrats side both. So while one pastor has said that the Democrats, obviously, their platform is awful, the Republican side also, because of their history, the only reason this pastor said because

Roe v. Wade in 1973 was the reason that they established a pro-life platform. And so therefore, you know,

He basically said, keep my name out of your mouth. And it really took me back because I've respected this guy for so long. And I just don't know, how do you respond? How do you rationalize? Because what's going to happen, he's dissuading thousands of people not to participate. You're going to sit out or go to their party if you kind of take that line. Andrew, do you want to preface this, please? Yeah. So, Charlie, I think you really articulated the central distinction here. It's not a moral equivalency.

Yes, there are failed people on either side of the aisle. That is 100% true.

But what you are electing, what are you choosing with your vote and your civic engagement is a policy platform and the people that are going to populate your government and the policies they're going to pursue. Are they in line with Christian teaching and doctrine or do they stand opposed to it? And so I just told Charlie, I think we should play this clip. He agreed. This is Pastor Johnny Artavanis. We had him on the show yesterday.

And he's not a particularly political guy. So he's not been very outspoken in the past. And he ended up going viral for this. He's out of, I believe, Franklin, Tennessee. So he doesn't get mixed up in politics very often. But he just did this from the pulpit, and it went viral. And I think we should play at 135. I saw a pastor this week, very well-known pastor, that said, he tweeted or something, never Trump, this year Harris, always Jesus. Yes.

I just want you to understand that that is one of the most foolish things I've ever seen. And here's why. People have asked me this week if I have opinions politically. I have opinions, a lot of them. I'm not a political commentator. I am a preacher of the Bible. But certain things politically are more theological than they used to be. The Democratic Party is a demonic death cult under the power and influence of Satan. To vote for the Democrats is to vote for...

Yeah, he said it. They're building their platform on everything that God hates. And that is a, I think, striking thing to say, but increasingly it's difficult to argue.

And that's a terrifying reality that we have one political party full of broken people and another political party full of broken people.

But one party is building its platform on everything God hates. Yeah. And so to answer your question directly, which I think is really important, you have to challenge these pastors and or stop going to these churches if they don't have moral clarity in the time for choosing. And I hate to be that blunt. Jesus. You should be like, ask them. It's like, okay, is this stand worth it for them to say that Georgia's abortion law is illegal, that Texas's abortion law is illegal, that Alabama's abortion law is illegal, Tennessee's, North Dakota, whatever.

list off the states. There's like 13 of them. They're all going to get deep-sixed by President Kamala and not by Trump. Is that worth it to them? That's right. All right. Thank you so much for being a member. Amanda, Amanda, what's on your mind? Thank you for being a member.

Hey, Charlie. Can you hear me? Yes. How are you? Awesome. I'm great. Hey, I just returned from Arizona chasing boats. Wow. Tell me about it. How was your experience? For the last two weeks? Well, coming from 70 degree beach weather to 104 was a big challenge. It's a lot colder than usual right now. Walking around. So the first three days I was kind of on my own and then I started hooking up with people who had cars and so you could get some reprieve.

But it was amazing. Mitchell and Chloe were our team leaders at the hotel, and they were so helpful and just so awesome. Just loved them to death and met the greatest people. It's just so awesome to be with like-minded people, and you didn't have to argue about everything and got a lot of ideas.

So it was great. I would have stayed longer, except I have a dog that was costing me a fortune that I had to get home to. So other than that, but because of that, some of us were wondering, and for some reason I thought this was like a Zoom, like when I was teaching church.

You could see all the faces. So this might not even work, but we're kind of hoping that election night, there might be something with you that the chasers could be part of. So we could kind of reconnect in a special way.

Yes. So let me tell you what's going to happen. Let me. Sorry, we're just on time here. So, Amanda, I don't know if you know this or not, but we are we do a thing called the legendary stream on election night on all of our platforms. We have it on YouTube and Rumble on X on TikTok on everything. We stream until there's an election winner. Now, I will go get a couple hours of sleep. Blake will literally sleep in the studio uninterrupted.

And Amanda, as a member, you'll be able to ask us questions. We will go through every county, every precinct. We know this data very well. It's perfect for me because all I'm going to be doing is sitting in front of my computer either way. And you crunch number. And Blake crunches numbers really well. So Amanda, part of it, we're going to get members to call in throughout the night. That probably won't happen for the first five or six hours. But as we're getting to about 3 or 4 a.m. Eastern, because we're not going to stop. Because remember, what we're not going to do, Amanda, we're not going to go to bed and we're going to let them do what they did in 2020. All of a sudden, they drop.

You remember that, Amanda? They dropped 700,000 votes and all of a sudden, no, we got eyeballs on it. And so make yourself a strong cup of coffee, say your prayers, and rally with us on The Charlie Kirk Show. Absolutely. God bless. Sounds great. Okay, Jennifer, the final question. Jennifer, thanks for being a member. Yeah, I was actually calling to ask, what would you recommend to somebody who wants to get involved in their community in a positive way? But my husband always recommends that I go and

become a politician but with my past i don't i don't foresee that being a path forward for me but what would you recommend for somebody who wants to do something but not a political path well first of all i'm told it's your birthday so happy birthday so yes thank you andrew my voice is fading here what's your what's your uh advice here like take it

I apologize. I mean, yeah, if you don't want to get involved in politics, that's definitely not for everyone. I mean, I'm never going to run for office probably. But there's infinite ways to get involved. And what matters is being a member of your community, whether that's being a member of a church, being a member of a group.

And then talk about these things with people. There's so many things that people are just afraid to bring up ever. And if you can bring it up and if you know what the issues are and the reasons that they're important and if you're friendly with people, you can very much bring up

political topics without it being this fraught thing. You don't have to be a liberal who will like scream at someone if they're feeling the wrong way and then cut them out of your life. I am an Uber driver. If you're an Uber driver, it's amazing. People love talking to Uber drivers about that sort of thing. Happy birthday. Thank you for being a member, Jennifer. Talk to you soon. Really appreciate it. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

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